posted July 02, 2004 10:07            

talking to a broker about this is the smartest thing you can do. Here is not where to learn about investing. here is where you learn that people only want to see the good and ignore the bad. they are the pumpers.

Bashers like i am called frequently, are the ones that will look objectively at the good and the bad, and only are able to post the bad becasue the good has been posted and over expressed a twisted to look better then it really is and the bad is ignored. I for one read both good and bad, that is why i was able to cut my loses in her 2 weeks back when the stock was up in te .0138 range

all through this 2 month downward slide the pumpers have been saying dont worry about it this is just a small pull back that always happens before a run.

talk to your broker he will give you sound advice. He is paid to tell you the best information he can. Anyone that bashes you for that is a fool and probably should not be trusted.

Man i cant believe that anyone woudl tell you not to listen to a stock broker. and secondly would not want to listen to what a stock broker would say.

GLTA

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Originally posted by rutti1:
I'm sorry I'm not a trader so I need a broker advice please understand. I will not post here if I will get plungered by maniacs trying to destroy me. I'm only here to state my thoughts and my broker is my helper so what? He tells me Qbid has made a step to get noticed but its risky still. I only try to post what I know and I know not much

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posted July 02, 2004 10:14            

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Originally posted by kbpkt:
Thinkmoney- what page is the letter on? I want to check it out again. Or will you post it again? Thanks

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The letter was posted by DragonMaster on page 6 of the "QBID--------->To Infinity and Beyond!----->" thread. I didn't post the message here because I think it is bogus. It is so obvious they cut and paste one of Diana's posts and then added in the rest themselves. At the very beginning of the letter it says To Frank and Steve but then the next line says I just got of the phone with Frank. If she was writing this to Frank, why would she state she just got off the phone with him. She would have said something like I just got off the phone with you. Also it was pointed out where they were writing in ALL CAPS and started the sentence with a lower case letter. Like they forgot the CAPS lock was on. This would happen to someone who doesn't normally use ALL CAPS. You can go back and read the letter for yourself but I think it was a bad attempt to fool us. I guess DragonMaster thinks we are morons. He also supposedly got this info from Steve Grunberg, I think he said. I doubt he would be handing out this damaging info to anybody. It all just doesn't add up. But like I said, go back and read it yourself.

posted July 02, 2004 10:16            

it is not a playground, hotline serves as a kind of public service announcement. They stated that had almost 40000 calls one month.
Company officers are held liable for this messages since they are available for investors etc.

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Originally posted by penguinking:
I must have heard a different phone message
the one i heard said
waiting for contracts to be signed
waiting on cotracts to be finalized

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posted July 02, 2004 10:21            

STEVEN GRUNBERG SIGNED A CARRIAGE AGREEMENT

posted June 21, 2004 12:07
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June 21, 2004 UPDATE 40 sec.(est.)
Hi thank you for calling the qtelevision network hotline.

Our executives are out of town on business. But here are some highlights of the week ahead.

Steven Grunberg our head of programming has signed a carriage agreement with a major cable company. Details on this will be provided later this week and there will be a formal joint press release. We're also focusing on creating adsvertising campaignes for our roll out.

We'll be dividing our efforts and will place ads in local, national gay & trade publications so look for these to be appearing soon.

We'll have another update for you in the very near future. Thank you for calling.

posted July 02, 2004 10:33            

Rutti- Imagine that price levels are like a ladder and you are coming down it. Each level on the ladder has support for you to step on coming down, notice at .006 there is no rung to step on, so you go straight down to the next level. I hope that helps. (I don't know if those are the real support levels, I'm just using that as an example.) The same thing applies going back up.

[This message has been edited by kbpkt (edited July 02, 2004).]

posted July 02, 2004 10:40            

It would have gone a long way for Diana to speak with Dragon about it. I have tried myself to speak to her off forum and she refuses to. so i have been forced to get answers in the open forum.

If Diana is inocent inthis one then she has gone about it the wrong way and has made her self look guilty.

I'm not bashing here. i just have seen enough that i am convinced there is a problem there.

the deleted posts
the avaisive answers
the ignored questions
the threats of leaving and then 30 minutes later back at the pumping again.
the letter
the discrepenciecies pointed out over and over.
she stated the other day that she has been on her for 2 years but her profile stated that she joined in jan 2004
the other day she stated that her meeting with frank was 45 minutes but when she came back from Cal she told us she was disapointed that she only got to speak with him for 5 minutes.
i cna go on all day about this stuff but i think i have made my point.

Diana has been her own worst enemy in here.

this is a public forum and is archived.

it is pen for all to read

hae a good day

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Originally posted by AF1:
The letter was posted by DragonMaster on page 6 of the "QBID--------->To Infinity and Beyond!----->" thread. I didn't post the message here because I think it is bogus. It is so obvious they cut and paste one of Diana's posts and then added in the rest themselves. At the very beginning of the letter it says To Frank and Steve but then the next line says I just got of the phone with Frank. If she was writing this to Frank, why would she state she just got off the phone with him. She would have said something like I just got off the phone with you. Also it was pointed out where they were writing in ALL CAPS and started the sentence with a lower case letter. Like they forgot the CAPS lock was on. This would happen to someone who doesn't normally use ALL CAPS. You can go back and read the letter for yourself but I think it was a bad attempt to fool us. I guess DragonMaster thinks we are morons. He also supposedly got this info from Steve Grunberg, I think he said. I doubt he would be handing out this damaging info to anybody. It all just doesn't add up. But like I said, go back and read it yourself.

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posted July 02, 2004 10:45            

geez, your broker must be out of the loop

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Originally posted by rutti1:
He tells me Qbid was pumped but no business structure ever evolved so what he said is that we are at the same place we were at .001. I know nothing though so I only state what I have been told

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posted July 02, 2004 10:53            

Form your own opinion but he's not very good at it and makes it obvious he is trying too hard.

posted July 02, 2004 10:55            

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Originally posted by OilMan:
Everyone tell me thank you, I have unloaded 12 million shares so now it should go to the moon since I dropped 1/2 my shares..... murphys law

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posted July 02, 2004 10:57            

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Originally posted by rutti1:
I 'm only investor and not a trader so my broker always tries to help me but I have invested over the years in limited penny stocks because he tells me they are only good for trading and not investing. He tells me be very careful

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posted July 02, 2004 10:59            

if there are people posting negative stuff about a stock and the pumpers are hammering him then pay attention. anyone that will call someone that brings facts to the table that are verifiable, and gets called a pumper is someone that is looking out for his investment and is sharing.

just read the good and the bad. and look at all the info brought forward and verify it yourself. trust no one and you will not be mislead.

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Originally posted by rutti1:
this stock is so hyped up we might see.001 next week and now I have lost allot of money because of these message boards.I think allstocks should become allpumped

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posted July 02, 2004 11:01            

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Originally posted by BobTheSlob:
Anyone else noticing rutti1 following the classic basher prose? Befriend the stock, act ignorant of things in the investing world, flip their opinion, post multiple times everyday etc., etc., etc.

Form your own opinion but he's not very good at it and makes it obvious he is trying too hard.

Bob

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LMAO!... like clockwork, eh Bob?

posted July 02, 2004 11:01            

Figured I'd sell now before all of my profits are gone, since I added shares over the months. Bought in as low as .004 and as high as .0202.

Here are my thoughts. Early next week, if there is no PR or a fluff PR, we will tank. We have all been waiting for the "concrete information" PR since the 21st of June, when they said it would be released that week.

I will be watching this stock like a hawk. Once (or if) this "concrete information" is released, we should take off fast. If this happens, I will be back in and my confidence and optimism will be restored.

Also, if they do release this "concrete information" PR, I hope it is during the trading day, because if they release it before trading hours, I fear it will gap up about 50% and I will miss the run up.

posted July 02, 2004 11:03            

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Originally posted by BobTheSlob:
Anyone else noticing rutti1 following the classic basher prose? Befriend the stock, act ignorant of things in the investing world, flip their opinion, post multiple times everyday etc., etc., etc.

Form your own opinion but he's not very good at it and makes it obvious he is trying too hard.

Bob

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posted July 02, 2004 11:03            

welcome to the club

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Originally posted by BobTheSlob:
Anyone else noticing rutti1 following the classic basher prose? Befriend the stock, act ignorant of things in the investing world, flip their opinion, post multiple times everyday etc., etc., etc.

Form your own opinion but he's not very good at it and makes it obvious he is trying too hard.

Bob

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posted July 02, 2004 11:03            

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Originally posted by rutti1:
I lost allot of money within the last 24hr because of Qbid, I'm really confused because I have never seen a stock hit so low on good supposed news in my life. I spoke with Mr. Olson and he sounds drunk I'm sorry but I know people in business and no one drinks alcohol if your CEO

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posted July 02, 2004 11:04            

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Originally posted by pharmdman:
LMAO!... like clockwork, eh Bob?

And is it just me, or does anyone else think it's odd that yet another new member can't spell loser??! Although I wouldn't 'dought' that he's a previous member, but it's not a 'hugh' issue!

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posted July 02, 2004 11:05            

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Originally posted by rutti1:
I lost allot of money within the last 24hr because of Qbid, I'm really confused because I have never seen a stock hit so low on good supposed news in my life. I spoke with Mr. Olson and he sounds drunk I'm sorry but I know people in business and no one drinks alcohol if your CEO

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posted July 02, 2004 11:06            

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Originally posted by rutti1:
I lost allot of money within the last 24hr because of Qbid, I'm really confused because I have never seen a stock hit so low on good supposed news in my life. I spoke with Mr. Olson and he sounds drunk I'm sorry but I know people in business and no one drinks alcohol if your CEO

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posted July 02, 2004 11:08            

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Originally posted by rutti1:
Please don't loose money like me, I feel like a looser now and my broker thinks I'm crazy

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posted July 02, 2004 11:11            

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Originally posted by realperson:
rutti1
I caint imagine using a broker for penny stocks. You have no way to buy and sell quickly when a stock gaps and when you do buy or sell the commision eat it up.
Pennys demand Scottrade or etrade one that you control. Dont stick with one stock you have to read other reccomendations then do your own DD and be ready to play the 10, 20 50 to 100% moves. when a stock goes up sell period. Some stocks fluxuate 10 to 30 % every couple of days like XRYM as an eg, where at least once a week with several grand you can add a steady 3 to $500 a week
If you dont have the time to learn, research and make the play, your best off leaving it all in the hands of your broker
If you have the time and want to learn try using fake money for a while and see how you do. The better you get at it the more fun it becomes
Just some bits of advice people have given me and wish I to would listen
Good Luck

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posted July 02, 2004 11:12            

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Originally posted by realperson:
rutti1
I caint imagine using a broker for penny stocks. You have no way to buy and sell quickly when a stock gaps and when you do buy or sell the commision eat it up.
Pennys demand Scottrade or etrade one that you control. Dont stick with one stock you have to read other reccomendations then do your own DD and be ready to play the 10, 20 50 to 100% moves. when a stock goes up sell period. Some stocks fluxuate 10 to 30 % every couple of days like XRYM as an eg, where at least once a week with several grand you can add a steady 3 to $500 a week
If you dont have the time to learn, research and make the play, your best off leaving it all in the hands of your broker
If you have the time and want to learn try using fake money for a while and see how you do. The better you get at it the more fun it becomes
Just some bits of advice people have given me and wish I to would listen
Good Luck

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posted July 02, 2004 11:14            

Take your loss and go away. Look for another stock to invest. It is the part of the game.

Ok, back to Q

Volume dried up.
What are your opinions about share price prospects? In case of good pr we will gap up at least 30 percent.

I believe that all Q systems are go.
This sell of which we experienced caused a lot of longs to unload huge blocks. Buys are still coming in smaller chunks. I think this is good for us .

I am still keeping my original 12 m from 0.0001. added more previous days. Planning to add more after releasing of funds.

I see the big picture!

Scared money do not make money!

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Originally posted by rutti1:
I just sold all with a loss that I have never lost in my life muy broker made his commission and I lost allot of money ,I'm glad I sold today because next week I would have killed myself

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posted July 02, 2004 11:18            

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Originally posted by penny-trader:
talking to a broker about this is the smartest thing you can do.

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And then realperson said this:

quote:

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Originally posted by realperson:
I caint imagine using a broker for penny stocks.

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To which you replied:

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Originally posted by penny-trader:
Very good advice nice post

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Huh?

posted July 02, 2004 11:20            

GLTA

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Originally posted by futuresobjective:
great point, nobody in their right mind uses a broker for penny stocks... and any broker who pushes them I would stay away from...
same goes for me... I wish I took some advice at first as well... good post though...

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posted July 02, 2004 11:21            

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Originally posted by RobinO:
Huh?

-R

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posted July 02, 2004 11:23            

I sold all at 0102, by the way. I will only swing trade until things change.

posted July 02, 2004 11:24            

THAT IS NOT TO SAY I AM NOT CONCERNED OVER OR DO NOT LISTEN OBJECTIVELY GO ALL POSTS.

Another network...soft and hard launch explained a little better....

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anonymous, is this it? http://www.bostonradio.org/radio/stock-index.html

anonymous, is this it? http://www.bostonradio.org/radio/stock-index.html

Here's another article...a soft launch is not available to everyone...only a sample of potential viewers....read this

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Summary: The Football Network (TFN) recently signed a deal with SPIKE to air two half-hours of football programming on Saturday mornings this fall. 'Fantasy Football 2003' will provide news and advice to millions of fantasy players while 'Football 101' will be a fast-paced magazine style program devoted to all levels of the sport. TFN and SPIKE's sales forces will work together to sell the advertising time to The Football Network.

First Down for the Football Network
Multi-platform approach builds awareness for programmer.

By Michael Kokernak

Baton Rouge, LA: The Football Network (OTC BB: TFNK), founded in 1999, has been gearing up to provide around the clock programming on all things football. The network, while downplaying its lack of NFL coverage, fervently believes that many of this nation's 190 million football fans will tune in for its brand of youth to professional women's games, newsmagazine shows, documentaries, and fantasy football reports.

"We'll provide more depth into the world of football than any other network," explained Jerry Solomon, president and CEO of the network. "We plan to be the first portal for when fans want to know what is going on on any level."

Making Noise

Partly due to channel constraints the network, in addition to providing limited live coverage of Division 1-AA conferences, has taken a multi-media approach to building its brand name.

The Football Network (TFN) recently signed a deal with SPIKE to air two half-hours of football programming on Saturday mornings this fall. 'Fantasy Football 2003' will provide news and advice to millions of fantasy players while 'Football 101' will be a fast-paced magazine style program devoted to all levels of the sport. TFN and SPIKE's sales forces will work together to sell the advertising time to The Football Network, advertise on DirecTV, advertise on SPIKE TV.

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Since 1999 the network has used radio as a medium to build momentum for its push to TV. Through "Sports Byline USA", a syndicated radio show heard on over 200 stations, the network's branded segment 'TFN's Football Focus" can be heard by nearly 2.2 million listeners per week. Starting in July the radio shows will air three times per week.

"We are bending over backwards for our potential sponsors," said Terry Kassel, Senior Vice President of Sales and Sponsorships." Our staff has been coming up with creative packages to help maximize the effectiveness of advertisers' dollars."

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The network's plans to secure cable and DBS distribution have been hampered by a crowded market for sports programming. The NFL has the rights to the professional games and to that end plans to launch the NFL Network on November 4, initially on DirecTV. In addition College Sports Television (CSTV) plans to air 18 NCAA Division 1-AA games during the fall.

TFN plans a 'soft launch' in September by producing a slate of Atlantic 10 football "Game of the Week" telecasts to air on Fox Sports New England. Initially the network will air its branded programming only of the weekends into an expected 3 to 5 million cable homes. As distribution grows the network will increase its programming schedule to full time with The Football Network.

Contingent upon accepting a tax benefit of approx. $100 million granted by the state of Louisiana TFN is in the process of relocating to Baton Rouge. During its first year in Baton Rouge, while its NFL network, production facility is under construction, TFN will broadcast out of the facilities of the Louisiana Public Broadcasting Corporation.

"We are exploding with the hiring of people, staffing up, and building out our interim facility," explained Solomon. "We expect to have 250 full time people in the location when we are fully staffed in about 12 to 18 months."

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Just got a response from a cable company and gave me this link to request the channel. EVERYONE USE IT!!!!!!!!! http://www.rcn.com/corpinfo/NY/ny_lineup_feedback.php
Your name:
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Here is an email I sent Frank last night after hearing the hotline update. I decided to go a different route other than slamming him.

Frank,

Greetings from one of the shareholders who is part of the Allstocks message board. I recently took a survey of QBID shareholders and the total # of shares held at Allstocks. I am excited to say that we are over 240 million strong and rising! It's apparent by the sound of your voice on the 6/30 hotline update that your hard work and exhausting hours are catching up to you. We all wish you well. Now onto the reason for this email. If the hard launch is indeed going to be July 1, it is imperative that you issue a press release announcing this to the world. Especially given the inability to launch a few years ago. This will help with the validation that QTV so desparately needs. I look forward to several months down the road when QTV has proven to be a viable alternative to alternative lifestyles.

Be well,

Jon Vredevoogd
CEO
Onclaut
Cell 239)699-1021
Email: mtgman001@hotmail.com ; jon@onclaut.com

HERE IS ALL THE ALLSTOCKS THREADS I CAN FIND.
LOTS OF GREAT INFORMATION ON HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT. LOTS OF READING--MAYBE BE HELPFUL TO SOME.

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/003797-10.html

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/004236-2.html

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/004294.html

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/004417.html

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/004746.html

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/004746.html

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/004827.html

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/007093.html

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/007537.html

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/007625.html

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/007670.html

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I AM HOLDING FOR NOW. SPREADING GARLIC AND HOPING THIS BOARD WILL COME TO ITS DECISION ON REAL FACTS.

THAT IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO DO.

posted July 02, 2004 11:25            

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Originally posted by Booty Quest:
Sounds exactly like new2 from a couple weeks ago.

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