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pharmdman
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posted July 01, 2004 09:29     Click Here to See the Profile for pharmdman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fastrunner:
This really raises a major concern. They made a effort to be in the convention for the NCTA. They do not show up in the NY gay parade? And they are going to have an office in NY? Hmmm...


I still wish they'd have been there and at Gay Days in Orlando earlier in June... outside of this being a scam, the only other reason that I can come up with is this: They might have been afraid to make an appearance and NOT be able to give specific details regarding carriers and availability in different areas. I still think that's a lame excuse if that's why, but I can't think of another reason. Can anyone else? It'll be interesting to see what everyone else thinks.

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realityinc21
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posted July 01, 2004 09:30     Click Here to See the Profile for realityinc21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GOOD MORNING ALL,

LETS GET READY FOR A RIDE. LOL

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sarki316
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posted July 01, 2004 09:31     Click Here to See the Profile for sarki316     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The reason QBID was not at the Gay pride parade was that they were busy on working on deals to finalize QBID launch. Plus WHY WOULD YOU PROMOTE QBID IF NOBODY CAN WATCH THEM!!!!!!

WHAT DO YOU TELL PEOPLE. WATCH QBID???? WHERE??? WHAT CARRIER??? WE DONT KNOW YET. THAT WOULD LOOK REAL BAD.

FRANK IS DOING THE RIGHT THING HE IS SETTING EVERTHING UP TO MAKE A HUGE SPLASH. WE HAVE TO GET RELAX AND JUST WAIT. THIS STOCK WILL GO UP. JUST GIVE IT TIME.

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gorforit72545
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posted July 01, 2004 09:33     Click Here to See the Profile for gorforit72545     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fastrunner:
This really raises a major concern. They made a effort to be in the convention for the NCTA. They do not show up in the NY gay parade? And they are going to have an office in NY? Hmmm...


THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE PARADE. THIS IS A STATION FOR GAYS,LESBIANS AND BISEXUALS. IT IS GOING TO BE A PAID SUBSCRIPTION. DON'T WORRY THE MONEY IS THERE FOR THE LAUNCH.

BOB

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jonv
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posted July 01, 2004 09:33     Click Here to See the Profile for jonv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I fully agree with you Pharm. Not having a strong presence at the parade was just dumb. They could of had another million people calling cable providers asking for the Q. I must admit, I do have a strong concern about their absence.

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penny-trader
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posted July 01, 2004 09:34     Click Here to See the Profile for penny-trader     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A pr for sure would make a diiference.

anythign that has been said on the phone and backed up with a PR has happened

when it is not stated in a pr the promises have failed.

history does repeat itself.

quote:
Originally posted by emunahstock:
The guy says he has big contracts, what more do you want. He said he is lanching today, what more do you want?

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penny-trader
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posted July 01, 2004 09:36     Click Here to See the Profile for penny-trader     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where has he stated that they did

quote:
Originally posted by pharmdman:
Where does it say that they didn't pay for more time? Do they need to tell us when they pay the electric bill too?

Also, he said hard launch... this is not another soft launch, so why all the confusion? Here's what the message states:

The hard launch will be tomorrow, and that means that we will be running 8 hours of programming, 3 times.It will be for any carrier that wants to take it, and that has been liscenced, but, we will not be announcing carriers until all contracts have been put together and have been signed, unless we have permission from a specific carrier."

Go Q!


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pharmdman
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quote:
Originally posted by jonv:
I fully agree with you Pharm. Not having a strong presence at the parade was just dumb. They could of had another million people calling cable providers asking for the Q. I must admit, I do have a strong concern about their absence.

My thoughts exactly!.. not to mention, how many more possible investors?!

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jonv
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posted July 01, 2004 09:37     Click Here to See the Profile for jonv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is an email I sent Frank last night after hearing the hotline update. I decided to go a different route other than slamming him.

Frank,

Greetings from one of the shareholders who is part of the Allstocks message board. I recently took a survey of QBID shareholders and the total # of shares held at Allstocks. I am excited to say that we are over 240 million strong and rising! It's apparent by the sound of your voice on the 6/30 hotline update that your hard work and exhausting hours are catching up to you. We all wish you well. Now onto the reason for this email. If the hard launch is indeed going to be July 1, it is imperative that you issue a press release announcing this to the world. Especially given the inability to launch a few years ago. This will help with the validation that QTV so desparately needs. I look forward to several months down the road when QTV has proven to be a viable alternative to alternative lifestyles.

Be well,

Jon Vredevoogd
CEO
Onclaut
Cell 239)699-1

[This message has been edited by jonv (edited July 01, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by jonv (edited July 01, 2004).]

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Bob_dog
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quote:
Originally posted by sarki316:
The reason QBID was not at the Gay pride parade was that they were busy on working on deals to finalize QBID launch.......

Are you saying the same people that would had out fliers are the same people sitting around the table with comcast? If thats the case we're all in big trouble.

Has anyone ever seen a movie trailer that just looks awsome, and then at the end it says July 2004 at the bottom? Shoot if I remember right they were advertising T2 almost 6 months in advance! Hmm Weird!
Bob_dog

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pharmdman
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posted July 01, 2004 09:39     Click Here to See the Profile for pharmdman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
Where has he stated that they did


The point that I made was that he doesn't need to tell YOU that he paid the bills! That was the point of the electrical bill comment. I didn't realize that the CEO of the company had to keep penny-trader informed of every movement! I understand that you believe that you're in charge, but the rest of us, and the company, don't think so.

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penny-trader
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posted July 01, 2004 09:41     Click Here to See the Profile for penny-trader     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about comming next month Americas first gay channel

or Watch for q qomign to a station near you.

anything is better then nothing.

quote:
Originally posted by sarki316:
The reason QBID was not at the Gay pride parade was that they were busy on working on deals to finalize QBID launch. Plus WHY WOULD YOU PROMOTE QBID IF NOBODY CAN WATCH THEM!!!!!!

WHAT DO YOU TELL PEOPLE. WATCH QBID???? WHERE??? WHAT CARRIER??? WE DONT KNOW YET. THAT WOULD LOOK REAL BAD.

FRANK IS DOING THE RIGHT THING HE IS SETTING EVERTHING UP TO MAKE A HUGE SPLASH. WE HAVE TO GET RELAX AND JUST WAIT. THIS STOCK WILL GO UP. JUST GIVE IT TIME.


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penny-trader
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posted July 01, 2004 09:44     Click Here to See the Profile for penny-trader     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you can launch all you want if no on knows its availabel they are not goin to subscribe. if they dont subscribe ther channel is braodacsting to no one with no income, and not no advertisers as advertisers only pay if some one is watching. How long can we afford to run with no income?


quote:
Originally posted by gorforit72545:
THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE PARADE. THIS IS A STATION FOR GAYS,LESBIANS AND BISEXUALS. IT IS GOING TO BE A PAID SUBSCRIPTION. DON'T WORRY THE MONEY IS THERE FOR THE LAUNCH.

BOB


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pharmdman
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posted July 01, 2004 09:44     Click Here to See the Profile for pharmdman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bob_dog:
Are you saying the same people that would had out fliers are the same people sitting around the table with comcast? If thats the case we're all in big trouble....

LOL.. i agree, but there are actually firms that you hire to do that for you. That way, you have presence and there is no question and answer session that you have to tap dance through. The flyers could have just stated:

"ARE YOU Q???

Q Television - coming soon!

The nation's first 24/7 GLBT network

Call your cable or satellite provider and demand your Q !!"

[This message has been edited by pharmdman (edited July 01, 2004).]

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JoeSchmoe
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posted July 01, 2004 09:45     Click Here to See the Profile for JoeSchmoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
i dont thkn so.

do you know where this company is registred?

i will answer you Nevada

do you know why it is registereed?

I will annswer you again.

Companys registered in Nevada do not hold the CEO responcible for failure and the investors can not go after them. Basic stock dd 101

look it up. he will get away with it if that is his intentions.


I just spend 10 minutes trying to verify it is Nevada and could not.

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jonv
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posted July 01, 2004 09:46     Click Here to See the Profile for jonv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
you can launch all you want if no on knows its availabel they are not goin to subscribe. if they dont subscribe ther channel is braodacsting to no one with no income, and not no advertisers as advertisers only pay if some one is watching. How long can we afford to run with no income?



We can apparently run for five years. Since they supposedly have to have 5 years funding in order for a major carrier to pick them up.--Just being a smart A$$.

[This message has been edited by jonv (edited July 01, 2004).]

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krecik
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posted July 01, 2004 09:47     Click Here to See the Profile for krecik     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

At least we are not falling like a rock,

bid
1 x .009
1 x .0089
2 x .0088

ask
2 x .0093
3 x .0094
2 x .0095

09:47:30 100000 0.009 - OTCEQ_NBB
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krecik
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posted July 01, 2004 09:55     Click Here to See the Profile for krecik     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are going over a .01 shortly.

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penny-trader
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posted July 01, 2004 09:59     Click Here to See the Profile for penny-trader     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i don't care about his hydro bill.

they specifically stated that they spent $50000 dollars on first and last months rent. I would like to know that they have signed a lease but i didn't hear about that.

I never said i was in charge of this company, I just know that the ones in charge have not lived up to promises in the last couple of weeks, and have made statements that are misleading and intentionally so.

quote:
Originally posted by pharmdman:
The point that I made was that he doesn't need to tell YOU that he paid the bills! That was the point of the electrical bill comment. I didn't realize that the CEO of the company had to keep penny-trader informed of every movement! I understand that you believe that you're in charge, but the rest of us, and the company, don't think so.

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realityinc21
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posted July 01, 2004 10:03     Click Here to See the Profile for realityinc21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pharmdman:
I still wish they'd have been there and at Gay Days in Orlando earlier in June... outside of this being a scam, the only other reason that I can come up with is this: They might have been afraid to make an appearance and NOT be able to give specific details regarding carriers and availability in different areas. I still think that's a lame excuse if that's why, but I can't think of another reason. Can anyone else? It'll be interesting to see what everyone else thinks.

PHARM,

I AM TRYING TO BE OBJECTIVE--THE CONVENTION IN NEW ORLEANS PUT THE COMPANY QTN -- OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC.

TIME RESTRAINTS AND STAFF AND MONEY COULD BE A REASON FOR NOT DOING MORE ADVERTISING THRU A PARADE OR AT GAY/LESBIAN EVENTS.

SPENDING TIME AND MONEY ON TRAVELING AND CONTACTING CARRIERS SEEMS LIKE WOULD BE A PRIORITY AT THIS POINT. JMHO

I BELIEVE IN QBID. THE THEORY AND THE WORK IS BEING COMPLETED. WE DID THE DD. WE KNOW THE GOOD AND THE BAD. I IS NOT AN EASY JOB. ADDING STAFF WILL BE A BLESSING. I HOPE THEY ALL PULL TOGETHER AND GET THE JOB DONE. I AM HOLDING. UNUSUAL FOR ME TO RIDE A STOCK DOWN. I WON'T HOLD FOREVER OF COURSE--BUT I WILL HOLD ON THE POTENTIAL.

I AM WORKING ON PROFITS. SOME HERE CAN NOT SAY THAT. I WANT EVERYONE TO WIN. I WANT THE Q TELEVISION NETWORK TO LAUNCH. I BELIEVE WE ALL DO. I AM GLAD AND APPRECIATE ALL OBJECTIVE VIEWS.

I BELIEVE THAT THE RECENT DOWNTREND WILL UPTURN. QBID HAS STRONG SUPPORTERS AND HOLDERS. THERE WERE VERY LARGE BUY YESTERDAY IN THE 60,000 AREA AND UP. NOT AVERAGE DAY TRADE BUYS. IMHO MM'S LOADING UP. JMHO.

FRANK AT TIMES HAS CERTAINLY NOT DONE THINGS THE WAY I WOULD HAVE DONE THEM. THAT DOES NOT LEAD ME TO BELIEVE THIS IS IN ANY WAY A SCAM. I THINK AFTER 4 MONTHS AND THOUSANDS OF % IN INCREASE--EVERY STOCK RETRACES. EVERY STOCK ESTABLISHES A PATTERN.

TREND STILL IN BUY POSITION. IT IS HARD AND WE ALL ARE SCARED. ME INCLUDED. THIS IS A PENNY STOCK AND A GAMBLE.

I WOULD POST DD--BUT THERE REALLY IS NONE TO POST. WE HAVE DONE IT ALL.

I HAVE MADE CONFIRMING CALLS TO DEVENEY--Q-TELEVISON NETWORK--YADA YADA YADA

NOTHING IS PERFECT--BUT WE ARE GAMBLERS.
PROTENTIAL IS PRICELESS
RISK OR TRIVIAL PURSUIT?

NOT TRYING TO WASTE VALUABLE SPACE ON THE BOARD OR BORE PEOPLE--BUT HERE IT IS AGAIN! WHAT MORE CAN WE DO? EITHER WE BELIEVE ON THE INFORMATION WE HAVE OR WE BAIL. I CHOOSE ON THE INFORMATION I HAVE TO STAY.

THESE ARE STILL THE FACTS--

QBID (STOCK SYMBOL)
Q TELEIVISON NETWORK.
NO. 1: CEO PROMISES NO REVERSE SPLIT WHILE HE'S CEO.

NO. 2: STOCK BUYBACK BY QBID.

NO. 3: STAFF ADDITION MISS LAMONT WITH 25+ YEARS EXPERIENCE THAT HAS ESTABLISHED HER OWN TV STATION, BEGAN A SMALL FIBER-OPTIC COMPANY THAT IS NOW THE LARGEST IN THE WORLD FOR COMMUNICATIONS, HAS WORKED FOR THE BIG 3 MAJOR NETWORKS IN AREA'S SIMILAR TO WHAT QBID IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH; HENCE "NEW" PROGRAMMING". SHE HAS WORKED IN EUROPE WHICH EAST AND WEST EUROPE WE'RE TRYING TO MARKET.

NO. 4: 10-YEAR DEAL WITH TIME-WARNER THAT PUTS THE SIGNAL ANYWHERE IN N. AMERICA THERE IS A DEMAND.

NO. 5: ALL SATELLITE SIGNAL HAVE BEEN COORDINATED TO PUT THIS SIGNAL ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.

NO. 6: WE ARE NOW OFFERING COMPANY/CORPORATE INCENTIVES FOR 1ST YEAR ADVERTISERS AND CAMPAIGN FOR INDEPENDENT INVESTORS.

NO. 7: THE TIMING IS ABSOLUTELY PERFECT FOR THE RELEASE OF THIS STATION. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THIS, JUST WATCH YOUR NEWS, READ YOUR PAPER AND IF YOU CAN'T FIND GAY/LESBIAN MARRIAGE, GAY THIS, LESBIAN THAT, YOU MUST BE LIVING ON ANOTHER PLANET.

NO. 8: COMPANY HAS ADDRESSED CUTTING BACK BUDGET AND EXPENSES TO THE TUNE OF 33,000 PER MONTH.

NO. 9: COMPANY HAS ADDRESSED INTERNAL CONFLICTS WHICH HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN A DRAWBACK. TEAMWORK HAS ALWAYS GOT TO BE IN PLACE IN ANY BUSINESS.

N0. 10: THE ABSOLUTELY MOST POSITIVELY OF THEM ALL. WE HAVE BEEN IN THIS POSITION BEFORE SOME 3 YEARS AGO AND DIDN'T GET OFF THE GROUND. YES--GREAT NEWS AND WHY IS THAT SO ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY GREAT YOU ASK???? THE STOCK HIT ALMOST $1/SHARE. JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO THIS STOCK TRADED AT .0001.

NO: 11: POLITICAL ISSUES HAVE TO ADDRESSED BRINGING A WHOLE NEW FORUM TO THE QBID TABLE...

NO: 12: SMART CEO'S DO HAVE VISION AND LEARN FROM PREVIOUS MISTAKES.

NO: 13: LARGE O/S. THAT HAS NOT STOPPED OTHER COMPANIES FROM SUCCESS. MOVED FROM .0001 TO .0271. DEFINITELY NOT IDEAL--BUT YA KNOW FOLKS WE JUST CAN'T HAVE IT ALL! 7.5 BILLION

NO: 14: THE COMPANY NOW HAS THE QBID HOTLINE OPEN TO ANSWER QUESTIONS RE: QBID. THE MESSAGE IS UPDATED DAILY WITH NEW AND UPCOMING INFORMATION. 1-888-594-7766

NO: 15: THE COMPANY HAD SECURED AN EXHIBITION BOOTH AT THE NATIONAL NETWORK CONVENTION IN NEW ORLEANS THE WEEK OF MAY 2ND, 2004. IDEAL LOCATION NEXT TO HBO--COURT T.V. AND THE WWF WRESTLING FEDERATION CHANNELS AT THE ENTRANCE/EXIT. DOES NOT GET MUCH BETTER THAN BEING NEXT TO HBO.

NO: 16: SINCE FEB. 2ND, 2004 THE STOCK HAS MOVED FROM .0001 TO .0271.

NO: 17: QBID NOW IS ATTRACTING ATTENTION OF INSTITUTIONAL INVESTORS.

NO: 18: News from Business 2.0 Magazine - May 2004 issue, pg. 32
Also available on their website: http://www.business2.com/b2/web/article...85,00.html
" TELEVISION
Gay-per-View
Why do media moguls think pink is so fab? It's simple: Gay and lesbian Americans command an estimated $475 billion in spending power, and advertisers want to reach them. In mid-May, Triangle Television Network plans to launch the first cable and satellite channel for gays and lesbians. Programming will initially be limited to a few sitcom reruns, documentaries, and movies (The Wizard of Oz, anyone?), but watch the competition; Bravo and Showtime have beefed up ratings with gay-friendly fare, and Viacom chairman Sumner Redstone has ordered MTV to accelerate plans for the launch of its own gay channel. "

NO. 19: HIRED DEVENEY PR FIRM jdeveney@deveney.com

#20: COMPLETED TEST LAUNCH ON MAY 15, 2004 WITH SUCCESS.

#21: COMPLETED SOFT LAUNCH ON JUNE 1, 2004

#22: SCHEDULED TO COMPLETE 24/7 HARD LAUNCH JULY 2004.

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DIANA

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penny-trader
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http://sos.state.nv.us/corp_nme.asp

Name: TRIANGLE TELEVISION NETWORK, INC.

Type: Corporation File Number: C25781-2002 State: NEVADA Incorporated On: October 17, 2002
Status: Reinstated Corp Type: Regular
Resident Agent: CORPORATE SERVICE CENTER, INC. (Accepted)
Address: 350 S CENTER STREET
SUITE 500
RENO NV 89501-2161
President: FRANK OLSEN
Address: 303 N INDIAN CANYON DR

PALM SPRINGS CA 92262-
Secretary: RENE SCHENK
Address: 303 N INDIAN CANYON DR

PALM SPRINGS CA 92262-
Treasurer:
Address:


quote:
Originally posted by JoeSchmoe:
I just spend 10 minutes trying to verify it is Nevada and could not.

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penny-trader
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lol

technically they would not as they would also have to make payments on the loans ands with out payment in about 6 months they would be sued into bankruptcy.
lol

but i understand your jesting

quote:
Originally posted by jonv:
We can apparently run for five years. Since they supposedly have to have 5 years funding in order for a major carrier to pick them up.--Just being a smart A$$.

[This message has been edited by jonv (edited July 01, 2004).]


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jonv
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.0097! Now if we could just drop one of the zeros, we'd be in good shape.

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pharmdman
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quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
i don't care about his hydro bill.

they specifically stated that they spent $50000 dollars on first and last months rent. I would like to know that they have signed a lease but i didn't hear about that.

I never said i was in charge of this company, I just know that the ones in charge have not lived up to promises in the last couple of weeks, and have made statements that are misleading and intentionally so.


There are many things that we'd all like to know. However, we have to realize that every move is not going to be spelled out for us, nor are they going to put every move in a PR for us to scrutinize. That's life - incomplete and unfair. We just have to learn to make due with less info... but it doesn't hurt to try and find more...

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I appreciate the fact that you have refered to this stock as a gamble as opposed to a sure thing. and the fact that you are nervous. as you stated you are playing with large proffits still. I know that many here though are down big in this one.

I would take the gamble myself in your situation Di but make sure you have your original investment covered. But you know that lol

I wish you luck on your holdings.

quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:
PHARM,

I AM TRYING TO BE OBJECTIVE--THE CONVENTION IN NEW ORLEANS PUT THE COMPANY QTN -- OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC.

TIME RESTRAINTS AND STAFF AND MONEY COULD BE A REASON FOR NOT DOING MORE ADVERTISING THRU A PARADE OR AT GAY/LESBIAN EVENTS.

SPENDING TIME AND MONEY ON TRAVELING AND CONTACTING CARRIERS SEEMS LIKE WOULD BE A PRIORITY AT THIS POINT. JMHO

I BELIEVE IN QBID. THE THEORY AND THE WORK IS BEING COMPLETED. WE DID THE DD. WE KNOW THE GOOD AND THE BAD. I IS NOT AN EASY JOB. ADDING STAFF WILL BE A BLESSING. I HOPE THEY ALL PULL TOGETHER AND GET THE JOB DONE. I AM HOLDING. UNUSUAL FOR ME TO RIDE A STOCK DOWN. I WON'T HOLD FOREVER OF COURSE--BUT I WILL HOLD ON THE POTENTIAL.

I AM WORKING ON PROFITS. SOME HERE CAN NOT SAY THAT. I WANT EVERYONE TO WIN. I WANT THE Q TELEVISION NETWORK TO LAUNCH. I BELIEVE WE ALL DO. I AM GLAD AND APPRECIATE ALL OBJECTIVE VIEWS.

I BELIEVE THAT THE RECENT DOWNTREND WILL UPTURN. QBID HAS STRONG SUPPORTERS AND HOLDERS. THERE WERE VERY LARGE BUY YESTERDAY IN THE 60,000 AREA AND UP. NOT AVERAGE DAY TRADE BUYS. IMHO MM'S LOADING UP. JMHO.

FRANK AT TIMES HAS CERTAINLY NOT DONE THINGS THE WAY I WOULD HAVE DONE THEM. THAT DOES NOT LEAD ME TO BELIEVE THIS IS IN ANY WAY A SCAM. I THINK AFTER 4 MONTHS AND THOUSANDS OF % IN INCREASE--EVERY STOCK RETRACES. EVERY STOCK ESTABLISHES A PATTERN.

TREND STILL IN BUY POSITION. IT IS HARD AND WE ALL ARE SCARED. ME INCLUDED. THIS IS A PENNY STOCK AND A GAMBLE.

I WOULD POST DD--BUT THERE REALLY IS NONE TO POST. WE HAVE DONE IT ALL.

I HAVE MADE CONFIRMING CALLS TO DEVENEY--Q-TELEVISON NETWORK--YADA YADA YADA

NOTHING IS PERFECT--BUT WE ARE GAMBLERS.
PROTENTIAL IS PRICELESS
RISK OR TRIVIAL PURSUIT?

NOT TRYING TO WASTE VALUABLE SPACE ON THE BOARD OR BORE PEOPLE--BUT HERE IT IS AGAIN! WHAT MORE CAN WE DO? EITHER WE BELIEVE ON THE INFORMATION WE HAVE OR WE BAIL. I CHOOSE ON THE INFORMATION I HAVE TO STAY.

THESE ARE STILL THE FACTS--

QBID (STOCK SYMBOL)
Q TELEIVISON NETWORK.
NO. 1: CEO PROMISES NO REVERSE SPLIT WHILE HE'S CEO.

NO. 2: STOCK BUYBACK BY QBID.

NO. 3: STAFF ADDITION MISS LAMONT WITH 25+ YEARS EXPERIENCE THAT HAS ESTABLISHED HER OWN TV STATION, BEGAN A SMALL FIBER-OPTIC COMPANY THAT IS NOW THE LARGEST IN THE WORLD FOR COMMUNICATIONS, HAS WORKED FOR THE BIG 3 MAJOR NETWORKS IN AREA'S SIMILAR TO WHAT QBID IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH; HENCE "NEW" PROGRAMMING". SHE HAS WORKED IN EUROPE WHICH EAST AND WEST EUROPE WE'RE TRYING TO MARKET.

NO. 4: 10-YEAR DEAL WITH TIME-WARNER THAT PUTS THE SIGNAL ANYWHERE IN N. AMERICA THERE IS A DEMAND.

NO. 5: ALL SATELLITE SIGNAL HAVE BEEN COORDINATED TO PUT THIS SIGNAL ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.

NO. 6: WE ARE NOW OFFERING COMPANY/CORPORATE INCENTIVES FOR 1ST YEAR ADVERTISERS AND CAMPAIGN FOR INDEPENDENT INVESTORS.

NO. 7: THE TIMING IS ABSOLUTELY PERFECT FOR THE RELEASE OF THIS STATION. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THIS, JUST WATCH YOUR NEWS, READ YOUR PAPER AND IF YOU CAN'T FIND GAY/LESBIAN MARRIAGE, GAY THIS, LESBIAN THAT, YOU MUST BE LIVING ON ANOTHER PLANET.

NO. 8: COMPANY HAS ADDRESSED CUTTING BACK BUDGET AND EXPENSES TO THE TUNE OF 33,000 PER MONTH.

NO. 9: COMPANY HAS ADDRESSED INTERNAL CONFLICTS WHICH HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN A DRAWBACK. TEAMWORK HAS ALWAYS GOT TO BE IN PLACE IN ANY BUSINESS.

N0. 10: THE ABSOLUTELY MOST POSITIVELY OF THEM ALL. WE HAVE BEEN IN THIS POSITION BEFORE SOME 3 YEARS AGO AND DIDN'T GET OFF THE GROUND. YES--GREAT NEWS AND WHY IS THAT SO ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY GREAT YOU ASK???? THE STOCK HIT ALMOST $1/SHARE. JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO THIS STOCK TRADED AT .0001.

NO: 11: POLITICAL ISSUES HAVE TO ADDRESSED BRINGING A WHOLE NEW FORUM TO THE QBID TABLE...

NO: 12: SMART CEO'S DO HAVE VISION AND LEARN FROM PREVIOUS MISTAKES.

NO: 13: LARGE O/S. THAT HAS NOT STOPPED OTHER COMPANIES FROM SUCCESS. MOVED FROM .0001 TO .0271. DEFINITELY NOT IDEAL--BUT YA KNOW FOLKS WE JUST CAN'T HAVE IT ALL! 7.5 BILLION

NO: 14: THE COMPANY NOW HAS THE QBID HOTLINE OPEN TO ANSWER QUESTIONS RE: QBID. THE MESSAGE IS UPDATED DAILY WITH NEW AND UPCOMING INFORMATION. 1-888-594-7766

NO: 15: THE COMPANY HAD SECURED AN EXHIBITION BOOTH AT THE NATIONAL NETWORK CONVENTION IN NEW ORLEANS THE WEEK OF MAY 2ND, 2004. IDEAL LOCATION NEXT TO HBO--COURT T.V. AND THE WWF WRESTLING FEDERATION CHANNELS AT THE ENTRANCE/EXIT. DOES NOT GET MUCH BETTER THAN BEING NEXT TO HBO.

NO: 16: SINCE FEB. 2ND, 2004 THE STOCK HAS MOVED FROM .0001 TO .0271.

NO: 17: QBID NOW IS ATTRACTING ATTENTION OF INSTITUTIONAL INVESTORS.

NO: 18: News from Business 2.0 Magazine - May 2004 issue, pg. 32
Also available on their website: http://www.business2.com/b2/web/article...85,00.html
" TELEVISION
Gay-per-View
Why do media moguls think pink is so fab? It's simple: Gay and lesbian Americans command an estimated $475 billion in spending power, and advertisers want to reach them. In mid-May, Triangle Television Network plans to launch the first cable and satellite channel for gays and lesbians. Programming will initially be limited to a few sitcom reruns, documentaries, and movies (The Wizard of Oz, anyone?), but watch the competition; Bravo and Showtime have beefed up ratings with gay-friendly fare, and Viacom chairman Sumner Redstone has ordered MTV to accelerate plans for the launch of its own gay channel. "

NO. 19: HIRED DEVENEY PR FIRM jdeveney@deveney.com

#20: COMPLETED TEST LAUNCH ON MAY 15, 2004 WITH SUCCESS.

#21: COMPLETED SOFT LAUNCH ON JUNE 1, 2004

#22: SCHEDULED TO COMPLETE 24/7 HARD LAUNCH JULY 2004.


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quote:
Originally posted by pharmdman:
There are many things that we'd all like to know. However, we have to realize that every move is not going to be spelled out for us, nor are they going to put every move in a PR for us to scrutinize. That's life - incomplete and unfair. We just have to learn to make due with less info... but it doesn't hurt to try and find more...


Right on!! Pharm....Hey, you don't play more than you can stand to loose right? If you can't stand the game...you can cash out right? Then why do people bicker so much? I thought we understood the rules.
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Oh, and for the record...I'm down too!! LOL

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jonv
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Okay. I'm gonna get logical for just a second. IF Frank is accurate and the hard launch has commenced, it doesn't do anybody any good if there isn't a carrier. So, I wonder if we can find who is broadcasting the signal thru a sort of process of elimination until we find the carrier that has yet to be announced? Just a thought.

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pappy
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I just called comcast in oregon asked for Q or triangle. They said didnt know any thing about it.I told them that who ever carries it beeing dish, direct tv,or any other carrier was getting my buisness. MARK

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It isn't avail. in Grand Rapids MI. either

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ATTENTION WORLD-- The hard launch has occured. Now get that pps up!!! (sounds of crickets abound).

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Good morning,

Great hotline message from Frank yesterday.
I am sure that we are on the market and right on track.
Just give them some time!!!

He said it straight! Frank Olsen easily can be held liable if hotline messages are not true. Each hotline message is a kind of public announcement, available for investors. It is not private chat. It is offcial release of company activities!!!

We are right on track!!!!

I do not have more many to add shares!!! This I regret the most.

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Sorry for typo. of course i do not have more money. I wish to close this position with 20m shares in account.


quote:
Originally posted by anonymous_lurker:
Good morning,

Great hotline message from Frank yesterday.
I am sure that we are on the market and right on track.
Just give them some time!!!

He said it straight! Frank Olsen easily can be held liable if hotline messages are not true. Each hotline message is a kind of public announcement, available for investors. It is not private chat. It is offcial release of company activities!!!

We are right on track!!!!

I do not have more many to add shares!!! This I regret the most.


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quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:
PHARM,

I AM TRYING TO BE OBJECTIVE--THE CONVENTION IN NEW ORLEANS PUT THE COMPANY QTN -- OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC. .....




The convention put QTN out there for the industry, not to the public, huge or hugh difference!
Bob_dog

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Sorry for typo. Of course more money i mean below.
I wish to establish 20m position.....


quote:
Originally posted by anonymous_lurker:
Good morning,

Great hotline message from Frank yesterday.
I am sure that we are on the market and right on track.
Just give them some time!!!

He said it straight! Frank Olsen easily can be held liable if hotline messages are not true. Each hotline message is a kind of public announcement, available for investors. It is not private chat. It is offcial release of company activities!!!

We are right on track!!!!

I do not have more many to add shares!!! This I regret the most.


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It is called EXPOSURE AND PUBLIC AWARENESS which creates business. I.E. advertising, sponsors, subscribers,etc. Which generates cash flow and revenues which translates to profits and ultimately dividend for the shareholders and rise in PPS which we are all holding our breath for.


quote:
Originally posted by gorforit72545:
THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE PARADE. THIS IS A STATION FOR GAYS,LESBIANS AND BISEXUALS. IT IS GOING TO BE A PAID SUBSCRIPTION. DON'T WORRY THE MONEY IS THERE FOR THE LAUNCH.

BOB


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i posted a thread on a stock i noticed IJMS any opinions oh and bashers i welcome you to give me all negative feed you can..

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Where is Deveney in all these. They seem to be pretty quiet. Are they just part timers?


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Originally posted by pharmdman:
LOL.. i agree, but there are actually firms that you hire to do that for you. That way, you have presence and there is no question and answer session that you have to tap dance through. The flyers could have just stated:

[b]"ARE YOU Q???

Q Television - coming soon!

The nation's first 24/7 GLBT network

Call your cable or satellite provider and demand your Q !!"

[This message has been edited by pharmdman (edited July 01, 2004).][/B]


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Just out of curiosity...how many on this forum have ever launched a cable channel? How many gay/lesbian cable channels are there? Is there a template for such a venture?

What has the developers of the Q done that has been detrimental to its creation other than not live up to expectations of its stockholders? How many of these expectations have validity? Everyone here says do your DD...what does that have to do with telling a man who has been in the business for years, what he should be doing? How many here have attempted developing a G/L cable channel and experienced failure just to come back and try again having learned from the past experience?

Is DD not research to decide whether one buys stock or sells it? Does DD give you authority to blast the stock? Unless there's illegal activity going on, what gives anyone the right to ridicule and admonish a man's business. If you have facts that is one thing...but to conjecture and create supposition is quite another.

If you want the stock, fine, buy in ... if not, then bye bye. If someone keeps up with the hypothetical negative or even positive issues I suggest we totally ignore those posts and get on with the business at hand.

Sharing DD here is what it's all about...but to use the forum to discredit without validation is bad business. I have said in the past that the attitude of this forum has no bearing on the PPS. I retract that statement. I do think it has an impact...however slight.

With that said, I would appreciate postings whether negative or positive be substantiated with facts. I would also appreciate it if fellow stockholders would leave the Q executives and staff alone and let them do their job. If you don't think they know what they're doing then find a stock you believe in! 99% of you could sell at sub-penny and make a profit.

There's such a thing as loyalty and support. If one cannot be loyal and supportive of their investment, then find one that you can support. If everyone adhered to this, bashers and pumpers would be easily recognized.

I realize that most of the posters here are young and quite intelligent. I suggest that a blend of the young and recently educated with the wisdom of the experienced would make for a phenominal business venture.

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(In an Andy Rooney voice) Did you ever notice that launching with no carriers is like smiling in the dark? It doesn't freakin matter, because nobody freakin sees it.

Well, at least QTV has fulfilled their promise. They're spewing their signal into space. So now that we've learned that "Hard Launch" means absolutely squat ... by itself,

WHIZKNOCK, if you're out there, looks like your trademark signature has been rendered obsolete. It would be appropriate to let you coin the next phrase to take us to our next goal. But may I suggest:


"All we have to do is to get somebody to take what we've launched and actually beam it into somebody's freakin' house."

Still holding, but like the doctor who treats anorexia, my patients is wearing thin.


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quote:
Originally posted by Dakota's Missus:

.... Is DD not research to decide whether one buys stock or sells it? Does DD give you authority to blast the stock? Unless there's illegal activity going on, what gives anyone the right to ridicule and admonish a man's business.....

This is a publicly traded company, I own some. That gives me the right to question how it is being run.

Bob_dog

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quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
(In an Andy Rooney voice) Did you ever notice that launching with no carriers is like smiling in the dark? It doesn't freakin matter, because nobody freakin sees it.

Well, at least QTV has fulfilled their promise. They're spewing their signal into space. So now that we've learned that "Hard Launch" means absolutely squat ... by itself,

WHIZKNOCK, if you're out there, looks like your trademark signature has been rendered obsolete. It would be appropriate to let you coin the next phrase to take us to our next goal. But may I suggest:


"All we have to do is to get somebody to take what we've launched and actually beam it into somebody's freakin' house."

Still holding, but like the doctor who treats anorexia, my patients is wearing thin.


LAUGHING MYSELF TO MORE INSANITY. FUNNY.. CAN WE PUT YOU ON T.V? LOL

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quote:
Originally posted by Dakota's Missus:

Hey there, Mrs. D !!!

You know, in comedy, timing is everything, and man, I wish my post wasn't right after yours. Oh well. As far as leaving the staff alone, my only exception to that is Frank welcomed emails from us. So, here's what I sent. I'll post his reply.

(And for the record, I think a lot of this is our own fault. As you say, we know very little about this business, and WE decide to define industry terms the way WE want, and therefore are disappointed when we (including me) find out there's yet another step involved in this tedious process.

After re-reading my post, I see that was the bashiest thing I've ever posted. Sorry if I crossed the line.)

Email sent Jul 1, 2004 8:43 AM

Morning Frank

I'm sure you're swamped with emails, so I will limit this to one question.

Why did you choose to not have QTelevision represented at any of the past GLBT events in the last few weeks, especially the one right there in NYC?

Even though you may not have had final details to share at that time, would it not have been wise to get your name out there to create a "buzz", if saying nothing other than "Coming Soon" or "Call your cable company and ask for QTV"?

Thanks for your reply.

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quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:
LAUGHING MYSELF TO MORE INSANITY. FUNNY.. CAN WE PUT YOU ON T.V? LOL


Diana- Do they have a show called "Straight Eye for the Gay Guy" yet? I could do that. And while on the subject, my long overdue response to Mr. Booty's allegations of yesterday evening:

Straight ... forever.

and

Married ... for now.

Depends on if I lose my shirt on this stock! (Honey, I shrunk the bank account)

Sorry, Booty, I hope I didn't offend you and your lifestyle choice, but I had to set the record "straight". (Ain't paybacks cool?)

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$$$qbid$$$... i really wish you'd stop that annoying sh\t....

I also emailed Frank to ask if the NTI contract has been extended beyond the two month test signal/soft launch window... I'll post the reply when I get it.

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If we're setting the record 'straight', I just wanted to say that I was totally joking about Winsum being 'bi' yesterday. I heard that he thought I was gay, so I decided to mess with him, since I too, am straight. No offense Winsum, my fellow beaver-lover!!!

Heck, Even FarmBoy likes a nice dip in the fuzzpool...Okay, I'll stop! Just bored and miserable.

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That was intelligent

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Due Da Due......But Be Quick About It!!!!!


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quote:
Originally posted by Booty Quest:
If we're setting the record 'straight', I just wanted to say that I was totally joking about Winsum being 'bi' yesterday. I heard that he thought I was gay, so I decided to mess with him, since I too, am straight. No offense Winsum, my fellow beaver-lover!!!

Heck, Even FarmBoy likes a nice dip in the fuzzpool...Okay, I'll stop! Just bored and miserable.


LMAO!.. mental pic of Booty in drag... although we may have to address him by his new drag name... Boutique West....

...hmmmm... good thing that Winsum isn't bi.. otherwise one might think that WinsumLosesum is a play on AC/DC.... LOL

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quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
Diana- Do they have a show called "Straight Eye for the Gay Guy" yet? I could do that. And while on the subject, my long overdue response to Mr. Booty's allegations of yesterday evening:

Straight ... forever.

and

Married ... for now.

Depends on if I lose my shirt on this stock! (Honey, I shrunk the bank account)

Sorry, Booty, I hope I didn't offend you and your lifestyle choice, but I had to set the record "straight". (Ain't paybacks cool?)


Holy crapski!!! LMAO!! Winsum, I swear I wrote my last post at the same time you wrote yours!!! I'm amazed that we used the same words at the same time!!!

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Thanks, Bob. Man, you're on your toes!

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