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Just sent my email off to Frank, questioning his reason for the A/S increase as well as why he didn't bring this up in the CC. I also requested more openess and honesty from him...did he mention he wanted to give this to us in the CC?
I don't expect a response, but I sure hope Richard and Frank talk soon and we get some news from the top.
Hmmm, maybe Frank's just trying to push the last of the non-believers out before he releases an awesome audit...if so, I'm afraid he's making non-believers out of lots of his believers .
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I've sent an email off to Frank, also. I, too, do not expect a reponse, but I did note how many shares I hold, so maybe he will respond based on that.
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Don't forget to send your letter to Echostar/DISH Network. 20 letters a day gets Q some play :) Posts: 621 | Registered: Jun 2005
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quote:Originally posted by davidjanas: anyways guys...if u guys dont believe me its still ok..but i talked to frank on monday and he told me that..one other thing he told me was "the stock price is lousy , but within two weeks, u will be happy happy happy " ...so i guess we just have to wait for that audit..atleast were the closest we have ever been ..hehe.
Wait, DJ, which Monday? last week? So, we're right on time to expect some good news next week?
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quote:Originally posted by Jennifercd10: Well let’s take a look at what we have.
50B A/S increased to 60B. 44B last known O/S figure. A good Q-uestion to ask would be: Has the 44B O/S been raised? If so what was it used for? If it was used for hamburgers, then Q may have a new marketing scheme. If it was used for a new acquisition(s), then we may have more asset value for the company, which may out weigh the new A/S ceiling. After all, Frank does have a knack for getting good deals. So, until we know what is really going on may I suggest…
Jenn's got my nod on that one...think about it, yeah he never PR'd the A/S increase, nor did he PR a few other things that ruffled some feathers, but hey, on the flip side, there has been quite a few things that were beneficial to us that he never PR'd either right?
Jenn's logic is what maybe some of you need to chew on for a while. Because the way he's been buying assets recently, it's the only thing that makes sense.
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quote:Originally posted by davidjanas: anyways guys...if u guys dont believe me its still ok..but i talked to frank on monday and he told me that..one other thing he told me was "the stock price is lousy , but within two weeks, u will be happy happy happy " ...so i guess we just have to wait for that audit..atleast were the closest we have ever been ..hehe.
Wait, DJ, which Monday? last week? So, we're right on time to expect some good news next week?
Ok, maybe I should read a few posts on before I post...hahaha...my fault
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quote:Originally posted by HossTrader: I am ticked. Still looking at options though, and no offense to anyone else that has checked into it. I still need to confirm for myself.
I do still fall back on my worst case scenario though.
Let's use the whole A/S of 60 billion. If the company is worth at least $1 billion then we are still talking $.016 per share.
Just call that my bitter little ray of sunshine at this point.
Sorry, but you're only looking at about .0075 since we common share holders only have a 47% stake. If the company is worth even that much. I think the film library is vastly over-valued.
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Well, I confirmed the 60 billion for myself as well, but via the WA SOS website:
-----Original Message----- From: Jill Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 11:42 AM To: SECSTATE - Corps Subject: Corporations Search Feedback from Web Site
Hello,
Yes, I found this site useful.
However, is it possible to find more information out about a company with a registered UBI?
Specifically, I would like to be able to search and find stock related information about the following company, without having to make a telephone call:
Triangle Multi Media UBI # 601 047 757
I have information that the A/S for common shares is at 60 billion. I am trying to confirm this number for myself.
It would be excellent to be able to find information of this nature directly from this website!
Thank you in advance for your assistance in this matter.
Regards, Jill
Here is the reply I received:
Confirmed.
An amendment was filed November 7th. "The capital stock of this corporation shall consist of 60,000,000,000 shares at no par value".
At this point, we do not have this information on our web site.
I hope this helps.
Hans
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quote:Originally posted by HossTrader: I am ticked. Still looking at options though, and no offense to anyone else that has checked into it. I still need to confirm for myself.
I do still fall back on my worst case scenario though.
Let's use the whole A/S of 60 billion. If the company is worth at least $1 billion then we are still talking $.016 per share.
Just call that my bitter little ray of sunshine at this point.
Sorry, but you're only looking at about .0075 since we common share holders only have a 47% stake. If the company is worth even that much. I think the film library is vastly over-valued.
I agree the film library is overrated. I am looking longer term at subscriptions and markets by the games. But the A/S includes Frank's shares. (Hell, I would take 0075 right now too!)
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quote:Originally posted by jill1170: Well, I confirmed the 60 billion for myself as well, but via the WA SOS website:
-----Original Message----- From: Jill Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 11:42 AM To: SECSTATE - Corps Subject: Corporations Search Feedback from Web Site
Hello,
Yes, I found this site useful.
However, is it possible to find more information out about a company with a registered UBI?
Specifically, I would like to be able to search and find stock related information about the following company, without having to make a telephone call:
Triangle Multi Media UBI # 601 047 757
I have information that the A/S for common shares is at 60 billion. I am trying to confirm this number for myself.
It would be excellent to be able to find information of this nature directly from this website!
Thank you in advance for your assistance in this matter.
Regards, Jill
Here is the reply I received:
Confirmed.
An amendment was filed November 7th. "The capital stock of this corporation shall consist of 60,000,000,000 shares at no par value".
At this point, we do not have this information on our web site.
I hope this helps.
Hans
Jill, thanks for posting this for all to see!
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quote:Originally posted by HossTrader: I am ticked. Still looking at options though, and no offense to anyone else that has checked into it. I still need to confirm for myself.
I do still fall back on my worst case scenario though.
Let's use the whole A/S of 60 billion. If the company is worth at least $1 billion then we are still talking $.016 per share.
Just call that my bitter little ray of sunshine at this point.
Sorry, but you're only looking at about .0075 since we common share holders only have a 47% stake. If the company is worth even that much. I think the film library is vastly over-valued.
I agree the film library is overrated. I am looking longer term at subscriptions and markets by the games. But the A/S includes Frank's shares. (Hell, I would take 0075 right now too!)
On the contrary, the A/S does NOT include Frank's shares, necessairly. If the O/S is indeed 44B out of (now) 60B none of those O/S belong to Frank. The O/S only represents the 47% that Frank does not own.
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ouch, nice p/r to start the day, look what franky did this time, man 60A/s . hmmm its about time we see a sincere warm "dear shareholders" letter lol
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MJM2005, Man you got what like maybe 500 bucks in this, i wish i were you at this point in time on this stock, but chill.
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quote:Originally posted by milliam: Just sent my email off to Frank, questioning his reason for the A/S increase as well as why he didn't bring this up in the CC. I also requested more openess and honesty from him...did he mention he wanted to give this to us in the CC?
I don't expect a response, but I sure hope Richard and Frank talk soon and we get some news from the top.
Hmmm, maybe Frank's just trying to push the last of the non-believers out before he releases an awesome audit...if so, I'm afraid he's making non-believers out of lots of his believers .
Milliam
We can guess and guess and guess....I just want to know one thing is this a good channel for gays and straights to watch or will it flop?
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quote:Originally posted by jill1170: Well, I confirmed the 60 billion for myself as well, but via the WA SOS website:
-----Original Message----- From: Jill Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 11:42 AM To: SECSTATE - Corps Subject: Corporations Search Feedback from Web Site
Hello,
Yes, I found this site useful.
However, is it possible to find more information out about a company with a registered UBI?
Specifically, I would like to be able to search and find stock related information about the following company, without having to make a telephone call:
Triangle Multi Media UBI # 601 047 757
I have information that the A/S for common shares is at 60 billion. I am trying to confirm this number for myself.
It would be excellent to be able to find information of this nature directly from this website!
Thank you in advance for your assistance in this matter.
Regards, Jill
Here is the reply I received:
Confirmed.
An amendment was filed November 7th. "The capital stock of this corporation shall consist of 60,000,000,000 shares at no par value".
At this point, we do not have this information on our web site.
I hope this helps.
Hans
Pretty tragic! Todays PR should have sent this thing to the stratisphere!
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If you’re getting upset then take a timeout from this and get some clarity. With 6 Billion left in the treasury, Frank may have had to increase the A/S. Just increasing the A/S does not dilute the stock. Frank stated in the cc that he would issue restricted shares to buy Mary Hartman. Maybe that is what he is doing. Maybe he ran across a great deal and is going for it. These would add to our asset value. With Frank’s ability to get great deals, we could be further ahead. We need cool heads and information to bring clarity to this. I hope Frank does not pass up any good deals because doing so may upset some shareholders. Frank has been building a great network and if he needs to do this to build more then so be it.
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quote:Originally posted by Jennifercd10: Well let’s take a look at what we have.
50B A/S increased to 60B. 44B last known O/S figure.
A good Q-uestion to ask would be: Has the 44B O/S been raised? If so what was it used for? If it was used for hamburgers, then Q may have a new marketing scheme. If it was used for a new acquisition(s), then we may have more asset value for the company, which may out weigh the new A/S ceiling. After all, Frank does have a knack for getting good deals. So, until we know what is really going on may I suggest…
Jenn You are quite correct: the real quesion is "has the 44B O/S been raised" or will it be? If either answer is yes, then what did it (or will it) buy?
And goodness ... I hope it wasn't hamburgers.
And your point about the acquisition being worth the cost ... excellent thought. I still don't like the increased A/S, but ...
The bottomline is that we just don't know what is happening yet. If we're voting on when to lynch Frank, I say wait until we see the audit. If it's not good, I'll bring the rope and choose the tree.
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G-invest, I'm behind you 100% and I am definitely planning on dumping for now. The question is, how long do we wait for the audit? We may get a couple upticks from it (or not) and I'm willing to wait a week to see if I can sell on one.
Does anyone have any faith that the audit is going to be release within 2 weeks?
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quote:Originally posted by Jennifercd10: Some people here act like children.
People everywhere act like children.
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quote:Originally posted by HossTrader: I am ticked. Still looking at options though, and no offense to anyone else that has checked into it. I still need to confirm for myself.
I do still fall back on my worst case scenario though.
Let's use the whole A/S of 60 billion. If the company is worth at least $1 billion then we are still talking $.016 per share.
Just call that my bitter little ray of sunshine at this point.
Sorry, but you're only looking at about .0075 since we common share holders only have a 47% stake. If the company is worth even that much. I think the film library is vastly over-valued.
I agree the film library is overrated. I am looking longer term at subscriptions and markets by the games. But the A/S includes Frank's shares. (Hell, I would take 0075 right now too!)
On the contrary, the A/S does NOT include Frank's shares, necessairly. If the O/S is indeed 44B out of (now) 60B none of those O/S belong to Frank. The O/S only represents the 47% that Frank does not own.
Frank said on the cc that the 44 billion included his shares. Now as to wether or not we believe him is a different story.
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quote:Originally posted by Jennifercd10: If you’re getting upset then take a timeout from this and get some clarity. With 6 Billion left in the treasury, Frank may have had to increase the A/S. Just increasing the A/S does not dilute the stock. Frank stated in the cc that he would issue restricted shares to buy Mary Hartman. Maybe that is what he is doing. Maybe he ran across a great deal and is going for it. These would add to our asset value. With Frank’s ability to get great deals, we could be further ahead. We need cool heads and information to bring clarity to this. I hope Frank does not pass up any good deals because doing so may upset some shareholders. Frank has been building a great network and if he needs to do this to build more then so be it.
Jen! I'm die hard QBID owner! Having said that Frank recently told us he would not raise the AS! He did! He did not raise AS to sit on it! And I'm pissed! Todays news is monumental & should have moved the stock significantly. It didn't!
quote:Originally posted by Jennifercd10: If you’re getting upset then take a timeout from this and get some clarity. With 6 Billion left in the treasury, Frank may have had to increase the A/S. Just increasing the A/S does not dilute the stock. Frank stated in the cc that he would issue restricted shares to buy Mary Hartman. Maybe that is what he is doing. Maybe he ran across a great deal and is going for it. These would add to our asset value. With Frank’s ability to get great deals, we could be further ahead. We need cool heads and information to bring clarity to this. I hope Frank does not pass up any good deals because doing so may upset some shareholders. Frank has been building a great network and if he needs to do this to build more then so be it.
Thanks for another Rock Solid Analysis, Jennifer. I learn, I learn, I learn here.
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No hamburgers in Vegas! I'll still bake cheescake! We have not lost anything (yet). The treasury amount has gone up and, so far, thats all. Sorry about the children line, I too get a little edgy.
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Frank stated in PRs that he converted all his shares (53%) from common to preferred.
During the CC, he stated that not ALL of the shares were converted, namely one ones that belong to his children.
Despite this, are we operating under the assumption that combining all of Franks and his children's shares (in either form) constitute 53% of the O/S?
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but changing common to preferred shares should have no impact on the A/S, right? It just reduces the common and increases the preferred, keeping the A/S the same.
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