if it's okay to announce nyc time warner carriage agreements in the conference call, why can't it be in an official pr so the people that dont already own the stock can know about it and buy?
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: one thing i want to hear closer as well in the CC:
Frank said that of the 53% that is his, he has it distributed between himself and his 15 foster children? and, he goes on to say that not all of them has converted their common to preferred.
so that would mean that the entire 53% was never converted, very contrary to what he has said in the past.
he mumbled his way through that part, but i am pretty sure that's what he said. i was on a mobile phone, so it wasn't easy to catch it all
anyone else hear that? ~BB
BB I heard that. Things are in disarray. I hope they get it together.
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quote:Originally posted by betting babe: one more thing...
if it's okay to announce nyc time warner carriage agreements in the conference call, why can't it be in an official pr so the people that dont already own the stock can know about it and buy?
ok im off, have a good day y'all ~BB
You could expand that question to any information given in the cc that was positive based and supported a higher valuation of this stock. Why keep it a secret?
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Yea theres a lot of good PR material. Hoprfully they will PR the carriers. I was entertaining the idea that we were getting an advance notice about it. OHOHOHO
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To all I'm sure no one really cares . . . but I want to thank everyone today for all your rational thoughts, polite comments and civil interaction. Immediately after the CC yesterday, I was concerned that the board might be overwhelmed with "nastiness" today. But you've all restored my belief that "QBIDiots" are an unbeatable group.
And please understand that I don't object to opposing views. Although I am more positive about Q today than I was before the CC, I realize not everyone shares my opinion. But please be "nice" if you want to vent. When we get to Vegas (and we will), I want to shake hands and swap stories instead of watching people get their lights punched out.
By the way, anyone know what the mood is on I-H or RB? Anything important from those forums we might care to know about?
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OK this isn't going to work for everybody, but I figured out how to increase my share count and sell off amount when that day comes. Immediately, I will be informing Frank that I am up for adoption, and to give consideration to my status as an orphan. Wish me luck.
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quote:Originally posted by HossTrader: He didn't give us a specific date for the new carriers. They will probably hold off on the pr's until they have those dates set.
quote:Originally posted by Dew-it: I have a question. Frank has stated many times, and there was a PR mentioning it... What is meant by we will be in 150 markets? Does this mean cities? Yesterday Frankie mentioned it again and I am not sure what he means. Does it mean that Q will be available via carries in 150 "markets" or that our signal will be broadcasting via NTI to 150 "markets?" There is a big difference. Any thoughts?
150 cities on specific carriers...
if i recall so, we are already nationwide on that Big C band satillete, but that doesnt mean much..
so yes i guess the gay games contract is 150 cities on specific carriers...
A satillte deal will do it..
If you count up what we already have indcluding the last CC, you will get somewhere around 10 i think
quote:Originally posted by Doctoall: I will continue to digest for a bit longer, in the meantime, it is my opinion that the audit is complete and sitting on Frank's desk.
Releasing it today during the CC was not an option. I feel that he will release it as he stated.
I will be caling Richard tomorrow to set a date for his one hour that he promised us for Allstock's. I would like him to come here on Friday or next Monday.
I am still Long, Strong, Holding and will continue to accumulate
Maybe the audit is done, but during the CC Frank was talking like it was not complete yet; he said that the audit is going back eight years and taking a long time because when they need to see a “certain piece of paper” to check something, that particular piece of paper has to be found in eight years worth of records.
Note: This is just a paraphrase of what I understood Frank to be saying and might not be totally correct.
quote:Originally posted by DIGDOUGH: OK . . . I figured out how to increase my share count and sell off amount when that day comes. Immediately, I will be informing Frank that I am up for adoption, and to give consideration to my status as an orphan. Wish me luck. :D
DIG Great idea. This is why I read allstocks: CREATIVE THINKING.
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my understanding, and i dont have time to go bk to read the orig gay games PR is...
THE GAY GAMES CONTRACT IS CONDITIONAL
Q MUST be in 150 markets before X date. or else we don't get the exclusive broadcasting rights.
there's a provision there, and it is expressed in the orig PR if i remember correctly. i didnt think it was a question- by frank brought it up, so i guess there is still some question there.
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: my understanding, and i dont have time to go bk to read the orig gay games PR is...
THE GAY GAMES CONTRACT IS CONDITIONAL
Q MUST be in 150 markets before X date. or else we don't get the exclusive broadcasting rights.
there's a provision there, and it is expressed in the orig PR if i remember correctly. i didnt think it was a question- by frank brought it up, so i guess there is still some question there.
~BB
I recall Frank said that Q would be in the 150 market, probably before the time is due for it. He best be. Preferably.
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quote:Originally posted by DIGDOUGH: Its a rainy day here in Georgia.
DIG Is that a "coded" statement that we have to interpret? Or are you telling us "it's a rainy day in Georgia"?
I'm trying to think like a basher and see hidden meanings in every statement. Since your comments usually are pretty simple to understand, I am guessing umbrella sales are up in Georgia today.
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quote:Originally posted by DIGDOUGH: Its a rainy day here in Georgia.
DIG Is that a "coded" statement that we have to interpret? Or are you telling us "it's a rainy day in Georgia"?
I'm trying to think like a basher and see hidden meanings in every statement. Since your comments usually are pretty simple to understand, I am guessing umbrella sales are up in Georgia today.
Well, not in this part of the state at least! It is gorgeous here today!
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Highlights from CC: Regarding company /Share structure:
A.TMM is sole owner of QTN and if QTN sold , you share the profit. Frank will share 53% since he has 53% of OS.
B. 2-3 years ago when TMM has almost no assets , Frank issued restricted shares at then PPS of .0001 , he was able to jump start the company back then , These restricted shares come due few months ago , investors selling them to get their money back with 800% profit .
C. Frank clearly stated that he /or his sons has not sold single share in last 2-3 years .
D. Frank issued more shares to maintain his 53% ownership, Seeking be legend NOT felthy rich , at one point these shares will be returned to TMM , His shares NOT for sale .
E.OS now 44 bil , out of wich he owns 53% ( about 23.5 bil ) leaving 21 bil which include shares in float or restricted .
F.Frank was upset about decline of PPS , cant do anything about restricted shares come due and been sold , he said also that these shares almost gone , and any further decline in PPS will force him to buy whatever resrticted no been sold yet .
Growth:
1.QTN Launched and expanding 2.TMM buying isteslf out of Firestone . 3.TMM Already applied for FFC license for UPLINK fascility at New Orleans ,TMM Already have customers , NBC, Banking and gambling industry and others . Building fiberopic net work that may been damged during the flood. 4.TMM aquired Transportation section like fleet of busses etc. 5.RCN, TW , COX other to join !!
6. NEW launch on COX in San Diego , Nebraska , and others .
Summary ?Audit:
1.debt about 10 mil dollars 2.Assets over 1 bill dollars Studio , film library , newly aquired difrent bussineses, Programming , New episodes , new shows , etc.
QTN will be making profit early next year , January possible , Took CNN 9 years to make profit !!
AUDIT WILL BE OUT BEFORE END OF THIS MONTH .
QBID EXPECTED BE ON AMEX IN FEW MONTHS AFTER THAT.
Please free free to correct me , paste and copy as you please .
[F.Frank was upset about decline of PPS , cant do anything about restricted shares come due and been sold , he said also that these shares almost gone , and any further decline in PPS will force him to buy whatever resrticted no been sold yet [/B] The only way the Frank can actually know that these restricted share are almost gone is if every share has been accounted for. In other words, the audit should reveal how much is left of those restricted shares. Correct?
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quote:Originally posted by HossTrader: Well, not in this part of the state at least! It is gorgeous here today!
Hoss Uh oh. DIG must be telling us something in code. I am cancelling my order to buy Georgia umbrella shares. I thought I was getting in on the ground floor.
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Highlights from CC: Regarding company /Share structure:
A.TMM is sole owner of QTN and if QTN sold , you share the profit. Frank will share 53% since he has 53% of OS.
B. 2-3 years ago when TMM has almost no assets , Frank issued restricted shares at then PPS of .0001 , he was able to jump start the company back then , These restricted shares come due few months ago , investors selling them to get their money back with 800% profit .
C. Frank clearly stated that he /or his sons has not sold single share in last 2-3 years .
D. Frank issued more shares to maintain his 53% ownership, Seeking be legend NOT felthy rich , at one point these shares will be returned to TMM , His shares NOT for sale .
E.OS now 44 bil , out of wich he owns 53% ( about 23.5 bil ) leaving 21 bil which include shares in float or restricted .
F.Frank was upset about decline of PPS , cant do anything about restricted shares come due and been sold , he said also that these shares almost gone , and any further decline in PPS will force him to buy whatever resrticted no been sold yet .
Growth:
1.QTN Launched and expanding 2.TMM buying isteslf out of Firestone . 3.TMM Already applied for FFC license for UPLINK fascility at New Orleans ,TMM Already have customers , NBC, Banking and gambling industry and others . Building fiberopic net work that may been damged during the flood. 4.TMM aquired Transportation section like fleet of busses etc. 5.RCN, TW , COX other to join !!
6. NEW launch on COX in San Diego , Nebraska , and others .
Summary ?Audit:
1.debt about 10 mil dollars 2.Assets over 1 bill dollars Studio , film library , newly aquired difrent bussineses, Programming , New episodes , new shows , etc.
QTN will be making profit early next year , January possible , Took CNN 9 years to make profit !!
AUDIT WILL BE OUT BEFORE END OF THIS MONTH .
QBID EXPECTED BE ON AMEX IN FEW MONTHS AFTER THAT.
Please free free to correct me , paste and copy as you please .
quote:Originally posted by DIGDOUGH: Its a rainy day here in Georgia.
DIG Is that a "coded" statement that we have to interpret? Or are you telling us "it's a rainy day in Georgia"?
I'm trying to think like a basher and see hidden meanings in every statement. Since your comments usually are pretty simple to understand, I am guessing umbrella sales are up in Georgia today.
B/L, its half a test of observation and half nostalgia. I'm in Iowa and rainy days remind me of that song, a rainy day in Georgia.
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I have been "digesting" this stuff and I am getting heartburn, indegestion, gas, etc.
Frankie said yesterday there is 21B O/S not including his preferred (53%) which includes restricted. Based on his 9/15/05 Shareholder letter he stated there was 19.5B of which 5.5 was restricted, leaving 14B in float as of the 9/15/05 communication. Ok, based on my math since 9/15/05 we accumilated another 1.5B into float. So it is obvious that he dilluted some more? Is that correct? ((((burp, gurgle, gurgle)))
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GET USED TO THIS DEW-IT. FRANK THE FRAUD OLSEN HAS PITCHED SO MANY DIFFERENT STORIES THAT YOU CAN'T BELIEVE ANYTHING. LIES ON TOP OF LIES ON TOP OF LIES.
MY FAVORITE IS VIA HIS OWN PRESS RELEASES:
PR NO. 1: WE HAVE SECURED FINANCING FOR 5-YEARS OF OPERATION.
A FEW WEEKS LATER:
PR NO. 2: WE HAVE SECURED A $2-MILLION DOLLAR LOAN TO SECURE THE FIRST YEAR BROADCAST.
NOW WHO IS GIVING FRANK THE FRAUD OLSEN ALL THIS MONEY? HE WONT TELL YOU OTHER THAN IT'S A "BIG NAME FIRM." ADDITIONALLY IF YOU DIDN'T CATCH IT AND TO BEAT THE DEAD HORSE, WHY DO YOU NEED 1-YEAR FUNDS WHEN YOU JUST SECURED FUNDS TO SECURE THE NEXT 5-YEARS OF BROADCAST.
LET'S GO ONE STEP FURTHER.... HOW CAN YOU EVEN BEGIN TO CACULATE ALL THE MONEY YOU NEED FOR 5-YEARS TO BEGIN WITH; THE ANSWER IS YOU CAN'T.
NOW DO THIS, GO THROUGH ALL THE PRESS RELEASES, ALL OF THEM AND PUT 2+2 TOGETHER AND THEY DON'T ADD UP.
quote:Originally posted by Dew-it: I have been "digesting" this stuff and I am getting heartburn, indegestion, gas, etc.
Frankie said yesterday there is 21B O/S not including his preferred (53%) which includes restricted. Based on his 9/15/05 Shareholder letter he stated there was 19.5B of which 5.5 was restricted, leaving 14B in float as of the 9/15/05 communication. Ok, based on my math since 9/15/05 we accumilated another 1.5B into float. So it is obvious that he dilluted some more? Is that correct? ((((burp, gurgle, gurgle)))
quote:Originally posted by buckwheatbob: ROLMARFO............I would have responded sooner but had to wipe the tears from eyes...........I did quote you, so it is fact ROFLMAO!.........I did take it from one of yourmost recent posts, so I (LMAO) didn't make it up like you claim I do. ROFLMAO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I simply gave you a taste of your own medicine. Now , doesn't Buckleys really tastse like crap?..............ROFLMAO and works too!
Umm... are you really as educationally-challenged as you sound in this post? Remember, you are the one dodging the question: how much and at what PPS have you spent on QBID? Do you even own a million shares?
quote:I recall a couple months ago, when I stated that I thought there was major diluting occurring, and I went so far as to state that IMHO at the time, the shares were coming from restricted shares used to get this thing going. I was put down and many stated that I was full of BS, and now look... Frank finally admited that what I said is exactly what happened. We do not know how many shares are left to be sold, but it could be easily be found out with a shareholder report (NoBo) which cost about $1000... or Frank could just call the people and ask them. Until these shares are absorbed, the pps is only going to go down. And with the other people all realizing it will go down further, are going to stop buying, or they will sell and buy lower, which will only push it lower yet!
While I'm not a huge fan of you, FoT, you're absolutely right. This board has been very quick to criticize those who spot dilution and sell-offs and other things of that nature. When I argued that the total OS was near 23 billion there were several on here that argued I didn't have the info so I was, in fact, simply wrong. They argued a ridiculously low 4 billion. Turns out the OS is about 20 billion. I didn't get any apologies via PM or anything, just more crap.
It doesn't bother me anymore, because it has become quite evident via private PMs from other individuals that many are grateful I'm not pumping or mindlessly promoting this stock. I've gotten enough gratitude from those who do care to continue to do my own DD and post as I see fit. When the audit #s come out, I'll do my best to analyze them and determine how long it is going to be before the Q *really* breaks even.
quote:how do we have debt of 10 mil but we burn 1 mil a month??
Dilution. Dilution of the stock funds salaries of Q employees. If you need $400,000/month for salaries, then you dilute however many shares at the current PPS to get them.
For example: $400,000 / .0007 = 571 million shares of dilution for this month. That's just a sample, not indicative of what he's really spending. Frank says the dilution was used to purchase "tangible assets". IMHO, he's fudging the truth. He clearly diluted to pay for some salaries, otherwise we wouldn't have this "drain of the PPS" that there currently has been since November of last year.
I would estimate the formerly-restricted stock that is being sold now probably numbered somewhere in the 2 billion shares range. That is far too much to have paid for a film library. I don't care if Frank estimates it to be worth a billion dollars, it's not worth that much. If it was, it wouldn't have been another Pink sheet company that owned it prior to QBID. It's probably worth 5 million at the most. Frank got burned hard on that deal. I will be very upset if the audit comes out valuing that film library at anything over 10 million.
quote:Only way is with an RS.
To get to the AMEX, yes. We could survive quite well on the OTCBB. IMHO, though, a R/S isn't always bad. ERICY did a reverse split nearly 4 years ago. After an initial fall, the PPS had doubled within a week. Frank just has to also reverse split the AUTHORIZED SHARES, so that he can't dilute. Then never increase the authorized shares. If he ever increases the authorized shares, we all need to bail.
The only problem with a R/S is that those people who got in this at .0050, before all the dilution and selling of the restricted shares, will probably have to wait 3 years to get back to the point where they bought in.
Then again, if you bought this stock anywhere above .0050, you're not likely to see that money again anyway. QBID is valued low, and after this last CC, it is clearly for a reason.
quote:He HAS NOT sold a share in 3 years
Of his own, no. But he's diluting, and he's the boss, so what does it matter? Diluting as a CEO and not selling any of his own shares as an investor are two separate things.
quote:QBID is not diluting for operational costs and probably has not diluted since the studio deal
I sincerely doubt that is true. I think they diluted to buy the studio and have diluted for operational costs and salaries since. The audit will hopefully shed some more light on the issue.
quote:I need somewhere that i can host it though as it is just over 6 megs in size. If anyone has a site to host it i will gladly share it.
Penny, I can host it for you without any trouble. If you can put it online somewhere where I can download it I'll copy it to my FTP. I know of some compression techniques to get an MP3 down in size quite a bit, but it sounds like it is pretty small as it is.
quote:there are what? maybe 100 million people in the US? im not sure.
270 million is the commonly used number. I think 295 million might be including illegals and overseas military.
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quote:GET USED TO THIS DEW-IT. FRANK THE FRAUD OLSEN HAS PITCHED SO MANY DIFFERENT STORIES THAT YOU CAN'T BELIEVE ANYTHING. LIES ON TOP OF LIES ON TOP OF LIES.
You're starting to get stale, your argument this time is EXTREMELY weak. In the last 5 years, yes, Frank has lied, but if this audit comes out at the end of the month, none of that is going to matter anymore. We'll be able to value Q exactly as we should.
BTW folks, fair warning:
Charts are prepped for a drop with MACD crossing divergence. It'll probably be a short one though, and it might steady out by tuesdayish of next week. We'll probably see .0006 though. Lower highs and lower lows means someone is selling. If we hold steady through tuesday, though. And VERT gets off the ASK, we may see a pop. Any pop past .0010 would be a head confirmation and any pop past .0014 would be a shoulder confirmation on a reverse head and shoulders trend reversal.
If you're wondering why these numbers change each time I mention them it is because the trend reversal confirmation has to drop as the PPS drops. What we need to see is a high that bests a previous high. A .0010 next week would do exactly that. A longer-term .0014 next month would establish that. If we see .0017 in November 2005, we may actually be looking at the full trend-reversal. You can quote me on that.
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9-27-2004 "But like all pay-cable networks, HBO is constantly fighting to hold onto its customers. Despite its high quality image, HBO churns out about 60% of its 27 million subscribers each year. Around half of those customers are "move churn": disconnecting, then resubscribing in their new homes. But the other half—8 million subscribers—exploit a cheap offer and sign on for a couple of months, then cancel, perhaps resubscribing months later."
quote:Originally posted by MillerTime:
One thing i would like to know is HOW MANY SUBS HBO has....
i have no idea how to get those numbers, but seems that is what we should be looking at...
I highly highly doubt we will hit that number but it gives us an idea of where we should get to
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Of his own, no. But he's diluting, and he's the boss, so what does it matter? Diluting as a CEO and not selling any of his own shares as an investor are two separate things.
quote:QBID is not diluting for operational costs and probably has not diluted since the studio deal
I sincerely doubt that is true. I think they diluted to buy the studio and have diluted for operational costs and salaries since. The audit will hopefully shed some more light on the issue.
I think you're right about those things
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