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I have been looking at a lot of web sites in the last hour or so about "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman" and there could be something there. I guess my question is how much they are talking about paying for it. Now if it were the right price it could be a great deal. From what I have read on the web today, the DVD rights alone could be HUGE, and it sounds like it has the type of following that could even encourage a few subscriptions all by itself.

That being said, it would all depend on how much it would cost.

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my thoughts exactly HossTrader
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WTF! A Film Contest!? You gotta be kidding.
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probly irelevant at this time but down the road month or years but if available.

not bad to consider

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closing L2's?
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thank you!
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SPIKE TV just payed 65 million for TV rights for a six-year deal for all of the Star Wars movies. And that is Just for the TV RIGHTS.
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My opinion on Mary Hartman is the same opinion I have on Frank. No additional comment.

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ahhaahah everybody ready for it again!!!!ahahh, im laughing already!

From the Q Forum, recording from yesterday's CC

http://qtvlaunch.biz/

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this recording sounds sooooo ghettoooo

sounds like 2 or 3 people in a basement or something....

The guy Frank, he sounds like a big beer belly guy having a hard time breating while smoking...

Sounds horrible, maybe a video would be better.

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That sounds badly done. I have a feeling Penny knows how to encode a lot better than that. If I can get in touch with him I'll see if I can't host a better recording. In the meantime, I'm going to download this one and see what I can't do to convert it to a smaller file.

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quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
From the Q Forum, recording from yesterday's CC. http://qtvlaunch.biz/

Thanks, Miller. Did you create this link? If not, my thanks to the person responsible. Great job.

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Dig, have you thought that the rights may also include distribution of a series DVD? I checked amazon and it doesn't exist.

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Originally posted by DIGDOUGH:
Frank said he would vote on issuing more shares to acquire Mary Hartman.
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Sorry Hoss, didn't see that you had looked at that angle already. Too many posts to go through when you have meetings all day.

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Originally posted by HossTrader:
I have been looking at a lot of web sites in the last hour or so about "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman" and there could be something there. I guess my question is how much they are talking about paying for it. Now if it were the right price it could be a great deal. From what I have read on the web today, the DVD rights alone could be HUGE, and it sounds like it has the type of following that could even encourage a few subscriptions all by itself.

That being said, it would all depend on how much it would cost.



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I am still waiting for a response to my email:

Richard,

I listened to the conference call yesterday, and I have a couple questions.

First, Frank disclosed the Outstanding share count to be around 44 Billion.
Frank owns 53% of that or 23 Bill which leaves 21 Billion in the float. Can
you please verify what number of that 21 Billion is also restricted shares?
We all know that Frank used these shares to make acquisitions and issued
them as restricted shares, so in order to reduce the shock of the large O/S
count, if you would please respond via website or other means, it would be
greatly appreciated. Here is an example of what I would like to see:

(All numbers are approximate)
Outstanding share count: 44 Billion
Personnally owned by F.O.: 23 Billion
Other: 21 Billion

Included in the "Other" share count are the following restricted shares
issued for acquisitions and operations:

4 Billion shares Restricted until Oct 2006 used for purchase of movie
library
5 Billion shares Restricted until Oct 2009 used for purchase of the Teleport
2 Billion Shares Restricted until Oct 2010 used to secure rights to the Gay
Games

10 Billion Shares Unrestricted Float

Second, is it possible that Frank or Rene can contact the restricted share
holder to determine the amount of shares remaining to be liquidated? This
information would be very helpful in understanding how many more shares must
be absorbed into the float before any substantial increase in pps can occur.

Thank you in advance for your assistance in clarifying this information and
attempting to instill a little investor confidence back into QBID.

Jeff

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Jumping the Shark is in reference to the episode of Happy Days where Fonzi jumped the tank of sharks in front of Arnolds. That show was considered the "end" of Happy Days being good. As far as in reference to MH2, I can't see the connection.

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Can anyone tell me what the phrase Jump The Shark
means in reference to the MH2 show

and if anyone recalls if this show plays on any network or when it last did

thanks


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After listening to the conference call, first I laughed, then I thought, "I can't believe people are still giving money to this dude...."(lol)
I can't believe I did!
I can't believe he is a president of a company.

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Actually how much I own is no ones business but my own and definately not yours. The only one who does know is Rod. Who knows, I might even be one of Franks foster children and have a lot more than you will ever know. ( Sorry Dig,had to take a crack at this LOL!)By the way, I think that is only the first time you asked that question. You're actually worse than the little old lady down the street with her nose prints on the glass in every ones business.

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Umm... are you really as educationally-challenged as you sound in this post? Remember, you are the one dodging the question: how much and at what PPS have you spent on QBID? Do you even own a million shares?

As far as your dilution issue, I asked you way too many times for proof, that was all and at that time you could not prove it. You based it on Frank was diluting only. Seems you where partially right and in the wrong sense but Frank used the shares to purchase items and the restricted shares according to the CC are the ones actually being diluted into the market.


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quote:
Originally posted by buckwheatbob:
ROLMARFO............I would have responded sooner but had to wipe the tears from eyes...........I did quote you, so it is fact ROFLMAO!.........I did take it from one of yourmost recent posts, so I (LMAO) didn't make it up like you claim I do. ROFLMAO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I simply gave you a taste of your own medicine. Now , doesn't Buckleys really tastse like crap?..............ROFLMAO and works too!

Umm... are you really as educationally-challenged as you sound in this post? Remember, you are the one dodging the question: how much and at what PPS have you spent on QBID? Do you even own a million shares?

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I recall a couple months ago, when I stated that I thought there was major diluting occurring, and I went so far as to state that IMHO at the time, the shares were coming from restricted shares used to get this thing going. I was put down and many stated that I was full of BS, and now look... Frank finally admited that what I said is exactly what happened. We do not know how many shares are left to be sold, but it could be easily be found out with a shareholder report (NoBo) which cost about $1000... or Frank could just call the people and ask them. Until these shares are absorbed, the pps is only going to go down. And with the other people all realizing it will go down further, are going to stop buying, or they will sell and buy lower, which will only push it lower yet!

While I'm not a huge fan of you, FoT, you're absolutely right. This board has been very quick to criticize those who spot dilution and sell-offs and other things of that nature. When I argued that the total OS was near 23 billion there were several on here that argued I didn't have the info so I was, in fact, simply wrong. They argued a ridiculously low 4 billion. Turns out the OS is about 20 billion. I didn't get any apologies via PM or anything, just more crap.

It doesn't bother me anymore, because it has become quite evident via private PMs from other individuals that many are grateful I'm not pumping or mindlessly promoting this stock. I've gotten enough gratitude from those who do care to continue to do my own DD and post as I see fit. When the audit #s come out, I'll do my best to analyze them and determine how long it is going to be before the Q *really* breaks even.

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how do we have debt of 10 mil but we burn 1 mil a month??
Dilution. Dilution of the stock funds salaries of Q employees. If you need $400,000/month for salaries, then you dilute however many shares at the current PPS to get them.

For example: $400,000 / .0007 = 571 million shares of dilution for this month. That's just a sample, not indicative of what he's really spending. Frank says the dilution was used to purchase "tangible assets". IMHO, he's fudging the truth. He clearly diluted to pay for some salaries, otherwise we wouldn't have this "drain of the PPS" that there currently has been since November of last year.

I would estimate the formerly-restricted stock that is being sold now probably numbered somewhere in the 2 billion shares range. That is far too much to have paid for a film library. I don't care if Frank estimates it to be worth a billion dollars, it's not worth that much. If it was, it wouldn't have been another Pink sheet company that owned it prior to QBID. It's probably worth 5 million at the most. Frank got burned hard on that deal. I will be very upset if the audit comes out valuing that film library at anything over 10 million.

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Only way is with an RS.
To get to the AMEX, yes. We could survive quite well on the OTCBB. IMHO, though, a R/S isn't always bad. ERICY did a reverse split nearly 4 years ago. After an initial fall, the PPS had doubled within a week. Frank just has to also reverse split the AUTHORIZED SHARES, so that he can't dilute. Then never increase the authorized shares. If he ever increases the authorized shares, we all need to bail.

The only problem with a R/S is that those people who got in this at .0050, before all the dilution and selling of the restricted shares, will probably have to wait 3 years to get back to the point where they bought in.

Then again, if you bought this stock anywhere above .0050, you're not likely to see that money again anyway. QBID is valued low, and after this last CC, it is clearly for a reason.

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He HAS NOT sold a share in 3 years
Of his own, no. But he's diluting, and he's the boss, so what does it matter? Diluting as a CEO and not selling any of his own shares as an investor are two separate things.

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QBID is not diluting for operational costs and probably has not diluted since the studio deal
I sincerely doubt that is true. I think they diluted to buy the studio and have diluted for operational costs and salaries since. The audit will hopefully shed some more light on the issue.

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I need somewhere that i can host it though as it is just over 6 megs in size. If anyone has a site to host it i will gladly share it.
Penny, I can host it for you without any trouble. If you can put it online somewhere where I can download it I'll copy it to my FTP. I know of some compression techniques to get an MP3 down in size quite a bit, but it sounds like it is pretty small as it is.

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there are what? maybe 100 million people in the US? im not sure.
270 million is the commonly used number. I think 295 million might be including illegals and overseas military.



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Jennifer, who are you communicating with at "Q" in Palm Springs to get your posters now that Tom Zamorra (Marketing Director) is no longer with them.

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Rod, you have a PM. Also found the player here:
http://www.olympus-europa.com/consumer/2590_software.cfm?category=8&productgroup=347&product=&os=7&result=

quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
its a dss file and a copy of Olympus player lite is requires to listen to the file.

I could format it to wav but it then becomes 100 megs and that is a heavy hit on bandwidth.

so i think the best thing is to make th dss file available and have a link to the free player to play it.

Rod Im working and on the road today but if you get me instructions on where you want me to ftp the file to i can do that when i get home.

Rod

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Rod/PT,
I can load it on one of my servers.....what format is it in?




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quote:
Originally posted by Optimus Prime:
Dig, have you thought that the rights may also include distribution of a series DVD? I checked amazon and it doesn't exist.

quote:
Originally posted by DIGDOUGH:
Frank said he would vote on issuing more shares to acquire Mary Hartman.
OPPOSED:AYE


Optimus I'm not sure what you're talking about, but I just don't want to encourage using shares for assets. Theres a billion in assets and the pps is at nothing.
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none of the CC recording links are working for me [Frown]

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Try this BB:
http://qtvlaunch.biz/Audio/QForumQBIDconcall.mp3
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
none of the CC recording links are working for me [Frown]

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You know what's interesting? One of the few positives i heard last night was that frank was planning to purchase something like the Mary Hartman series.

Look what The Sopranos and Sex in the City did for subscriptions of HBO. Cheers, Seinfeld.. they were all cult-followed series. Mary Hartman was, in its time, a cutting edge cult-followed series. It was a Norman Lear Production- and he did All in the Family and Sanford and Son. I was too young and not allowed to watch any of them. I know how popular they were, but not conservative. They were all kinda crude.

In this generation it'd all be mainstream, yet adult humor. It was so controversial back then that it would be a topic of the nightly news. (i asked my mom if she remembered it and she has watched it a few times)

The best comparison i could make would be it's like buying the rights to South Park meets Benny Hill. A satirical Green Acres. And I think that could have a cult following.

So, people would subscribe to the channel to see the series. It gives a "non-gay" alternative to Q's programming.


Also, Frank said in the CC that the "song had not been bought" and i didnt really understand what he meant. but i checked, and i found this:

"The series was cancelled in 1976, but three other spin-offs, including Fernwood 2Nite, lived on into the early 1980s.

Mary Kay Place was nominated for a Grammy Award for the album Tonite! At the Capri Lounge, Loretta Haggers on which she sang as her MH2 character, Loretta Haggers. One of the songs Place wrote for the album, "Baby Boy", climbed to the Top 60 on Billboard's Pop Charts, and #3 on the country charts, in 1976."

Sounds like a good song to have rights to, and i'm wondering if the spin-offs would be included in the deal too.


My point is I am totally for the purchase in regards to building the network.

But how i feel about using shares to do it is something totally different. [Wink]

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perfect, thx marty! ~BB
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I am not sure I would be too worried about the Mary Hartman series. He did say he has been trying for 5 years, I believe in the CC. I don't think it is within grasp otherwise he would have had it by now.

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Originally posted by HossTrader:
I have been looking at a lot of web sites in the last hour or so about "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman" and there could be something there. I guess my question is how much they are talking about paying for it. Now if it were the right price it could be a great deal. From what I have read on the web today, the DVD rights alone could be HUGE, and it sounds like it has the type of following that could even encourage a few subscriptions all by itself.

That being said, it would all depend on how much it would cost.



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[Wink]
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perfect, thx marty! ~BB



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Dig, all I am saying is that the rights to the show may allow Q to sell the series as a DVD in stores, like Volume 1 contains shows 1-10, etc. Brings in additional revenue. Also, I didn't see a MH2 DVD on amazon so I assume it hasn't been distributed yet.

As far as using additional shares, I somewhat agree but follow my logic on this.

If I were allowed in that meeting to do something about the share price, I would
1) Tell Frank to buy revenue generating items with shares at .0008 or .0009
2) Wait for the shares to drop in price
3) Wait for the restricted shares to come to market and to be exhausted
4) Buy back the shares at its low point, which could be .0003 or .0004, imho. Maybe .0001.

You would have a series, no more restricted shares (not including the ones for gay games or movies) in the market, and got the shares for half the price. Keep in mind, I know this is not good for the shareholders and maybe unethical. But from their business perspective, they may have no choice.


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quote:
Originally posted by Optimus Prime:
Dig, have you thought that the rights may also include distribution of a series DVD? I checked amazon and it doesn't exist.

quote:
Originally posted by DIGDOUGH:
Frank said he would vote on issuing more shares to acquire Mary Hartman.
OPPOSED:AYE


Optimus I'm not sure what you're talking about, but I just don't want to encourage using shares for assets. Theres a billion in assets and the pps is at nothing.


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quote:
Originally posted by Optimus Prime:
Sorry Hoss, didn't see that you had looked at that angle already. Too many posts to go through when you have meetings all day.

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I have been looking at a lot of web sites in the last hour or so about "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman" and there could be something there. I guess my question is how much they are talking about paying for it. Now if it were the right price it could be a great deal. From what I have read on the web today, the DVD rights alone could be HUGE, and it sounds like it has the type of following that could even encourage a few subscriptions all by itself.

That being said, it would all depend on how much it would cost.


LOL No problems. It happens to me all the time!!

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sounds (slightly unethical) logical to me.

and further, Video On Demand for home cable and hotel cable, the new iPod with video...

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quote:
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Dig, all I am saying is that the rights to the show may allow Q to sell the series as a DVD in stores, like Volume 1 contains shows 1-10, etc. Brings in additional revenue. Also, I didn't see a MH2 DVD on amazon so I assume it hasn't been distributed yet.

As far as using additional shares, I somewhat agree but follow my logic on this.

If I were allowed in that meeting to do something about the share price, I would
1) Tell Frank to buy revenue generating items with shares at .0008 or .0009
2) Wait for the shares to drop in price
3) Wait for the restricted shares to come to market and to be exhausted
4) Buy back the shares at its low point, which could be .0003 or .0004, imho. Maybe .0001.

You would have a series, no more restricted shares (not including the ones for gay games or movies) in the market, and got the shares for half the price. Keep in mind, I know this is not good for the shareholders and maybe unethical. But from their business perspective, they may have no choice.


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FYI, they have added a couple more of their shows to the little slide show on the home page. Looks good.

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Yeah Hoss the Q website is startin to look good...
Bunch of new QTN worldnews updates...thats a quality show imo....

Anybody know if/why/how QTN has that whole right side of the page blank, (like 3 inches are left blank???and is there anyway to get rid of this..looks tacky imo...

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Ragingbull, looks like the board mentality is changing to a positive outlook...

Dont know if this is because of the CC or karzoid being removed or a little of both...just interesting to see

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Finally tonight I listened to the CC!!!!!!! lol

I must say Frank was a little harsh and tried to control the questions and were it was going. I don't think he answered the questions as straight forward as a normal person would.

The information given wasn't anything really new and I didn't feel he went out on a limb to tell us anything.

Now saying that I am excited to hear that next week he will look into buyback shares to up the price. The price he said was .005 which would be a nice climb from our current level. Also he said the audit would be out by the 31. Now if what he said was correct that our networth is 1 billion and the OS is 44 billion that means the pps should be .02.(correct the math if I am wrong)

Overall I feel my investment is a smart one with a strong growing company that is turning into the next big deal. Once the audit is out we will know for sure about everything and if Frank buys back the restricted shares or stops the bleeding we will be looking good.

I would say that by October 31 if the audit isn't out or the pps is not past .0025 it might be time to move on and cut losses. JMO and don't buy or sell on my words. Just staing that if by Oct. 31 those things haven't happened you will no longer see me on the QBID board.. lol If you know what I mean..

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