quote:Originally posted by thesource: So whats up with this stink hole lately ?
It had actually dropped off page one but thanks to you we are back on top! Nice work!
So now that you are here, do you have something useful to add?
Nope just wondering if the company is still GOLDEN or not .
short goldman sachs oh, wait this is the CSHD thread...
Funny, I thought CSHD was going to takeover Goldman Sachs? If nothing else, I'm still following this for my daily dose of humor. And yes, I'm still holding shares until I need to offset my ETIM or DPDW gains.
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You have to be at a huge loss on ETIM, what gain are you referring to?
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quote:Originally posted by thesource: I have a buy order for 1 million shares at .0002 so lets see if it hits just for $hits and giggles .
Youre hooked!!
Hey look, someone fat fingered a buy order for 1 million shares at 2.00! LOL just kidding, but wouldn't that cause a frenzy. Don't laugh, didn't that happen with a Japanese trader earlier this year. Posts: 2498 | Registered: Mar 2006
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FWIW the James Gee deposition found its way onto the net. H S M posters were nice enough to zip it up and post it for all to read. To be perfectly honest....95% of the things depo will go against the Texas crew IMO.
Anyone know the legality of that? Arent depos meant to be private until the court case? I realize that the bulk of it was just the SEC attorney taking Gee's documents (CDs and Flash drive) and placing them as exhibts but a lot of questions were answered as well along the way.
IMO if this goes to jury trial anything written in this document would be useless.....correct?
Anyway, I think we might start hearing more about Robert "Darby" Boland. Apparently he is a large shareholder in the company and also the word is that he was a very vocal member of the SHC. It is also rumored he was "friends" with John Arlitt. A few months BEFORE the CVSU merger was announced, Furia had written a LOI to buy a small fleet of freight aircraft from Utilicraft.....Darbys company. Now Randy Moseley works for Utilicraft, interesting.
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Early 2006 Fronthaul has a LOI with Utilicraft.......
"In 2005 and 2006, Mr. Moseley was an Executive Vice President and the Chief Financial Officer for The Furia Organization, Inc. (OTC BB: FURA)."
I have a question......in this link you will find....
"Mr. Moseley has no family relationships with any other officer or director of the Company, and has never had any direct or indirect material interest in any transaction effected by the Company. "
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"Let the DA disgruntled shareholders testify when this is done their testimony will hang the SEC and friends, to include the TA!!!! " ...Rufus Paul Harris
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Mr. Cat , its not going to a jury trial . The case is over and the SEC won because Dufus didn't respond in time or with an attorney . How hard is that for some of you to comprehend ? The next steps are going to be the enforcement of any judgements gramted to the SEC and possibly a criminal case or cases against those who are responsible .
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quote:Originally posted by thesource: Mr. Cat , its not going to a jury trial . The case is over and the SEC won because Dufus didn't respond in time or with an attorney . How hard is that for some of you to comprehend ? The next steps are going to be the enforcement of any judgements gramted to the SEC and possibly a criminal case or cases against those who are responsible .
So explain to me the purpose of the deposition then.....
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Its just like any other case , evidence is collected to build a case . In this situation , the SEC didn't need any proof or evidence because CSHD and Dufus failed to respond in the time prescribed by law to begin with . Its an open and shut case . The SEC has won by default . End of story really ......
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The rumor is.....there were a few other depositions. Rumor created by Dogman aka James Gee
Ben Stanley Sabra Dabbs Don Maddalon Dave Perley Romeo Venditti Ismet Paez Mike Alexander.
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I have no doubt the SEC interviewed several of the people associated with the company . I think this is the #1 reason that they are convinced this was a scam and the bonds do not belong to CSHD or Dufus either in whole or partialy .
You guys are over complicating things . The SEC filed suit against the company . The CEO shows up along with his group of croneys and the judge humors them but informs them they need an attorney . Dufus , knowing the company is broke decides to ignore the judges orders and starts this conspiracy theory of the government is out to get him and his family to divert attention to the real matters of hand . During this song and dance show , the limit to respond to the suit runs out and the SEC filed a motion for a default judgement and list the companies failure to respond in a timely manner as the reason it should be granted . The judge agrees and its game over . After months and months of this crap , Dufus still continues with this line of conspiracy theories and a case of who done it .
Dufus needs to keep his focus on his DUI case and keeping his ignorant hill billy azz out of prison although I personally hope he gets stuffed by some big black guy named Tyrone in the Georgia State Pen.
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quote:Originally posted by thesource: I have no doubt the SEC interviewed several of the people associated with the company . I think this is the #1 reason that they are convinced this was a scam and the bonds do not belong to CSHD or Dufus either in whole or partialy .
You guys are over complicating things . The SEC filed suit against the company . The CEO shows up along with his group of croneys and the judge humors them but informs them they need an attorney . Dufus , knowing the company is broke decides to ignore the judges orders and starts this conspiracy theory of the government is out to get him and his family to divert attention to the real matters of hand . During this song and dance show , the limit to respond to the suit runs out and the SEC filed a motion for a default judgement and list the companies failure to respond in a timely manner as the reason it should be granted . The judge agrees and its game over . After months and months of this crap , Dufus still continues with this line of conspiracy theories and a case of who done it .
Dufus needs to keep his focus on his DUI case and keeping his ignorant hill billy azz out of prison although I personally hope he gets stuffed by some big black guy named Tyrone in the Georgia State Pen.
Hmmm, some interesting opinions there. If youre right....ill gladly tell you so later. If youre wrong, ill laugh in your face for selling at .12 (mostly because of your rude comment to LT) Posts: 2308 | From: Michigan | Registered: Jun 2006
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In the depo from James Gee he claims that Rufus copied the files from his computer and gave the drive to Michael Alexander. Does that seem slightly different from the original story?
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quote:Originally posted by thesource: I have no doubt the SEC interviewed several of the people associated with the company . I think this is the #1 reason that they are convinced this was a scam and the bonds do not belong to CSHD or Dufus either in whole or partialy .
You guys are over complicating things . The SEC filed suit against the company . The CEO shows up along with his group of croneys and the judge humors them but informs them they need an attorney . Dufus , knowing the company is broke decides to ignore the judges orders and starts this conspiracy theory of the government is out to get him and his family to divert attention to the real matters of hand . During this song and dance show , the limit to respond to the suit runs out and the SEC filed a motion for a default judgement and list the companies failure to respond in a timely manner as the reason it should be granted . The judge agrees and its game over . After months and months of this crap , Dufus still continues with this line of conspiracy theories and a case of who done it .
Dufus needs to keep his focus on his DUI case and keeping his ignorant hill billy azz out of prison although I personally hope he gets stuffed by some big black guy named Tyrone in the Georgia State Pen.
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Yeah I seriously doubt thats going to happen but if so ...... feel free to laugh as loud as you'd like at my expense .
dont worry we will.....
EXIT plan in full effect..... Posts: 65 | Registered: Dec 2007
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quote:Originally posted by thesource: Yeah I seriously doubt thats going to happen but if so ...... feel free to laugh as loud as you'd like at my expense .
quote:Originally posted by LT: the SEC hasnt won anything ..lol.. there will be a hearing some time in the near future.
Yes, there will be a hearing. Just not the one that you are thinking. THe case is over. Here is what the hearing will be about. Straight from the PACER documents posted earlier on this thread.
G. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND REQUEST FOR A HEARING
Plaintiff requests that the Court order a hearing on this Motion for Default Judgment, so that it may present evidence concerning the amount of civil penalties appropriate for the Court to order.
Specifically, Plaintiff plans to present the testimony of victims who purchased shares of Conversion at tremendously inflated prices after relying on the fraudulent misrepresentations made by Defendants charged in the Complaint. These victims will explain the substantial losses that they suffered, and the effects of those losses on their daily lives. In addition, Plaintiff plans to present the testimony of a staff accountant of the Commission, to quantify for the Court the approximate total losses to investors flowing from Defendants’ fraudulent misrepresentations. Finally, Plaintiff will present evidence of Defendant Harris’s plan to enrich himself and his family members through stock sales during his fraudulent manipulation of Conversion’s stock price.Posts: 3255 | From: Los Angeles California | Registered: Jan 2006
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quote:Originally posted by thesource: Yeah I seriously doubt thats going to happen but if so ...... feel free to laugh as loud as you'd like at my expense .
dont worry we will.....
EXIT plan in full effect.....
Yeah , I hear ya . I still can't believe after over a year of this crap there are still people buying this .
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quote:Originally posted by thesource: Yeah I seriously doubt thats going to happen but if so ...... feel free to laugh as loud as you'd like at my expense .
dont worry we will.....
EXIT plan in full effect.....
Yeah , I hear ya . I still can't believe after over a year of this crap there are still people buying this .
even better question is , why is it trading at ALL?.... no 15c211 was ever filed..so the grey share are ALL illegal in the market... oops more egg in the SEC's face to deal with .....
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quote:Originally posted by LT: the SEC hasnt won anything ..lol.. there will be a hearing some time in the near future.
Yes, there will be a hearing. Just not the one that you are thinking. THe case is over. Here is what the hearing will be about. Straight from the PACER documents posted earlier on this thread.
G. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND REQUEST FOR A HEARING
Plaintiff requests that the Court order a hearing on this Motion for Default Judgment, so that it may present evidence concerning the amount of civil penalties appropriate for the Court to order.
Specifically, Plaintiff plans to present the testimony of victims who purchased shares of Conversion at tremendously inflated prices after relying on the fraudulent misrepresentations made by Defendants charged in the Complaint. These victims will explain the substantial losses that they suffered, and the effects of those losses on their daily lives. In addition, Plaintiff plans to present the testimony of a staff accountant of the Commission, to quantify for the Court the approximate total losses to investors flowing from Defendants’ fraudulent misrepresentations. Finally, Plaintiff will present evidence of Defendant Harris’s plan to enrich himself and his family members through stock sales during his fraudulent manipulation of Conversion’s stock price.
I'll let RPH answer this....
"Let the DA disgruntled shareholders testify when this is done their testimony will hang the SEC and friends, to include the TA!!!! " Posts: 65 | Registered: Dec 2007
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So The Huminitarian bond is what we say questionable due to Sakli involvment. During the October hearing, Rufus presented exhibits to counter each accusation being brought forth by the SEC. At one point, they went into a quick recess. During this time, Rufus mentioned to Alana that he had concerns over the legality of the Humanitarian bond. When they came back from recess, Alana immediately told the judge that Rufus had just told her that he knew this bond was fake (not really what he told her). He SET HER UP AND SHE FELL FOR IT! Blabbed about it to the Judge, this specific bond and not any others, and now it's in the court records! Alana and the SEC will have a hard time expalining this!
this is what RPH said about it.....
I will get to the bottom of it with the US authorities or with the IMF and others soon!!!
Adnan Sakli (FD# 8216 and 8217) the Numbers appear on his this Top Secret GOV credentials!!
Yes he is the signatory of the B/Trillions in Bonds held in the Banking system to include Euroclear!!! And Yes I can produce several international bankers who will testify when the time is right about what Sakli and the others involved do when funds are arranged off of the Bonds!!! I can even provide in many cases the screen printouts of the transactions and codes!!!
Sakli and Greenspan boys are the big players in this game!!!
After they stole Billions of foreign dollars from transactions with bonds like the ones in CSHD, I started a plan to expose them in the public and drop the case in the SEC hands the regulatory agency of all Securities!!!!!
The SEC have to prove who dumped which means they will have to show that CSHD was naked shorted because that is a fact. They are not doing that.
The SEC have to look into the bonds. If they do, they will discover that RPH is actually exposing someone elses fraud and that would be Sakli and Greenspan boys. They can't do that either. RPH has dropped both issues in the lap of the SEC and they aren't doing anything about it. They are trying to divert the truth. This will all come out in court one day. I am counting on it.
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quote:Originally posted by thesource: Yeah I seriously doubt thats going to happen but if so ...... feel free to laugh as loud as you'd like at my expense .
dont worry we will.....
EXIT plan in full effect.....
Yeah , I hear ya . I still can't believe after over a year of this crap there are still people buying this .
even better question is , why is it trading at ALL?.... no 15c211 was ever filed..so the grey share are ALL illegal in the market... oops more egg in the SEC's face to deal with .....
abject silliness... issues trade on greys precisely because no MM will touch a 15c2-11 filing... doesn't make the shares illegal, though.
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