quote:Originally posted by TimW: So who runs this board? I just noticed contact information i posted for paul poetter awhile back has been edited out in my posts. I had those posts bookmarked and now stuff is missing.
Could allstocks possibly have been in on the scam?
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Am I totally onfused or are you? It already had it's day in court, Rufus didn't bother to answer, so the day in court is over and CSHD and Rufus lost.
Why do you expect theer to be more to it?
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: I am sooo thankful that this will get to see its day in court....Federal court. I think it will be very interesting, kinda wish it wasnt such a distance for me to catch it live myself.
May someone please show us the evidence?
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edit Hmmm....is the SEC trying to skip the trial? How can they request such a thing?
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quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Am I totally onfused or are you? It already had it's day in court, Rufus didn't bother to answer, so the day in court is over and CSHD and Rufus lost.
Why do you expect theer to be more to it?
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: I am sooo thankful that this will get to see its day in court....Federal court. I think it will be very interesting, kinda wish it wasnt such a distance for me to catch it live myself.
May someone please show us the evidence?
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edit Hmmm....is the SEC trying to skip the trial? How can they request such a thing?
Well, in any case they have to show their evidence in future filings on the case correct? Im not saying that i understand the next legal process but after reading the results of other SEC investigations they do explain what the fines are and where the money will come from....if there is any.
"Over" or not we are still entitled to an explanation of some sort IMO.
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i've been following the AIG/Berkshire Hathaway case for a couple years.. they are bigger fish, but white collar crime in america just isn't a high priority unless you are running for Governor of NY or something like that
look how bad Koslowski and Ken Lay had to screw up before they got indicted...
Kolsowski's wife is divorcing him while he's in prisonm, and he spent 2 million (company expense account) on a birthday party for her in Italy LOL..
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quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: Wonder if i can sell this POS for tax losses now.
I'll be holding my shares until someone someplace puts all of this together for us. I think the SEC will do the right thing in the end.......i STILL wouldnt be surprised if Mr Harris assists them in doing so.
Time will tell
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quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: Wonder if i can sell this POS for tax losses now.
I'll be holding my shares until someone someplace puts all of this together for us. I think the SEC will do the right thing in the end.......i STILL wouldnt be surprised if Mr Harris assists them in doing so.
Time will tell
You might as well hold on to them . Unless you have a few million shares , they aren't worth selling unless you need the tax right off .
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quote:Originally posted by T e x: you think he'll have a change of heart? He hasn't "assisted," yet.
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st22: you might check with your broker re: declaring them worthless; prolly depend on the size of your (remaining) position.
Change of heart? No, i think he had hoped that they could do it without his help a year ago. Someone just posted this at the other board, its a pretty good excerpt.
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from the court documents dated Oct 25, 2006 9:00AM
"Page 5 line 17-23 Ms Black speaking and more significantly, the volume of the stock has also been inflated. and the reason why that matters, Your Honor, is that sometimes people inflate the value of the stock because they're selling it. That's the dump part of the pump and dump. And we need to find out whether they've been selling it with our expected discovery in the next ten days before the Commission's freeze is over."
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From what ive seen SO FAR im not so sure they pulled the trading records and proved what they aimed to prove in that 10 day period. Maybe they did and they are just waiting for that "right time" to provide the court with that info. Im betting they did NOT pull the trading records and if this is the case they are certainly not protecting me as a shareholder.
Again...time will tell
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quote:Originally posted by T e x: whoa...slow down, hoss...
from where are we getting transcripts of court dialogue?
Im working on getting the answer of that question for you. The dialogue is very familiar to me but with all of the filings, PRs, interviews, etc..its friggin impossible to find stuff like this sometimes. I have basically every document that found itself into emails and websites but some are on my work PC, some are here at home...and admittedly some were lost in a PC crash.
If it turns out I cant find the docs to support what was written feel free to delete my post and I will retract my opinion in the matter.
For legal reasons that I may or may not understand i decided to PM Tex regarding the court transcripts. Being a MOD I will kindly leave it up to Tex what he does with it.
Question though Tex....what did you mean by "Ben"?
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quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I heard rufus's mail is being returned undeliverable. That was posted on ihub
Yup, and there was a follow up post that goes like this......
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"I just checked Pacer regarding the undeliverable mail. The Court attempted to send him a copy of The Order Granting Motion to Strike his Answer and denying his Motion to Set Aside the Default, which was signed on October 30, 2007. The way I interpret the notations on Pacer, the mail was resent to him (I assume at the new P.O. Box on his Motions) on November 27th."
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We all know he moved (was evicted..whatever) so this was no surprise to me.
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OT : An interesting read on some changes being discussed in the Canadian Market (B.C. specifically).
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"He said many professional facilitators -- accountants, lawyers and geologists -- "shut their eyes" to the problem. He warned that the commission would report professionals who knowingly aid and abet sham deals to their professional organizations.
Eady said many OTC companies don't have "real shareholders," rather they have "fake shareholders" who in some cases don't even know they have been listed as shareholders. They are simply stooges for the promoters.
To stop this sort of stock-rigging, the commission is proposing rules to make it illegal for seed shareholders in B.C. to sell back their stock to the promoters. Instead, they will have to sell their shares through a broker, from an account in their own name, into the market. This will move all this share dealing from the back room into the public domain, where people can see what's going on."
quote:Originally posted by thesource: So whats up with this stink hole lately ?
It had actually dropped off page one but thanks to you we are back on top! Nice work!
So now that you are here, do you have something useful to add?
Nope just wondering if the company is still GOLDEN or not .
Wasnt the "Golden" stuff from our infamous friend Tut-Arlitt? We dont really talk like that anymore.
In any case, IMO we should see some new / updated court docs any time now.
Get yourself a Pacer account and follow closely. If its information you are craving that would be the place to watch....IMO.
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