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Surfer -- do you have your shares in cert form? If not, do so, then sock them away for a while. Although I am 100% confident in what I say, I am not asking you to buy into it all....just don't do anything, such as selling, etc...which will make it impossible to realize a substantial profit when the "unthinkable" happens in the future.
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quote:Originally posted by Igor R: I don't even want to waste money on the commission to even try to sell the shares lol. Going to wait until the next E-Trade commission free day to hopefully get rid of that crap from my account.
Hey Igor-commission is deductable on your taxes . OT: Free*Trade day was awesome. I rid my account of a lot of past transgressions from when I was a newb. (PYCT, etc.). Thankfully, I am past those days.
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quote:Originally posted by Ironman64: Surfer -- do you have your shares in cert form? If not, do so, then sock them away for a while. Although I am 100% confident in what I say, I am not asking you to buy into it all....just don't do anything, such as selling, etc...which will make it impossible to realize a substantial profit when the "unthinkable" happens in the future.
Tut used to say the exact same thing, and what happened? $3.85/share turned into .002. No sign from Rufus or the company, stock delisted, people's lives ruined, pending SEC case, no $15/share, no reset, no 6:1, no proxy. Nothing, but crap.
So, what makes anything you say different than the rest?
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Ironman, apparently you have no concept of how the SEC works. Some day, when you have some free time, just poke around on the internet and see how many times you find thing like:
"Jan 2008 - Charges were filed today against 2 stock promotors who made $10million in a pump and dump scheme in 2003.", etc.
There's no reason to search for some secret reason why this is "still" in process after what, 18 months, when SEC halts from yeas prior have not yet been resolved.
As for people not believing how well it worked out in the end when it finally does end, in the infinitecimally small chance that this does "work out" as you said, the cryptic ramblings of Rufus have cost people here and elsewhere HUNDRED OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. Spin it any way that you want, and say it's their own fault for not holding long enough, but there were lives who have been unfathomably altered by this situation in a terribly negative way. People whose lives have been shattered by the little games that he likes to play. Think about the people who bought into his mumbo jumbo 2 years ago with more than they could afford to lose. The cries of $15 resets, 6:1 dividends, etc., never mentioned a 2+ year holding period, and so understandably, some people HAD NO CHOICE but to sell for a substantial loss just to recoup some small piece of their initial investment. Maybe there was someone who bought in, even that intended to stay for the long haul, and lost his job (not unlikely in the current economy), had to liquidate his/her account to help care for a loved one (not uncommon at all), or any other one of thousands of legitimate reasons. Rufus F*CKED those people, and F*CKED them hard. Maybe this will work out for a few lucky ones in the end, but it will never erase the disdain that I and others feel towards him for unneccesarily screwing hundreds of people out of thousands and thousands of dollars, and without exaggerating, costing some their families, friends, and who knows, it wouldn't surprise me at all if we learn someday that one or more people lost so much money that they decided to end their own life.
So yeah, laugh it up, enjoy your wealth if this does happen as you expect, but don't forget the countless people whose lives were ruined by some hack who got his jollies by speaking in riddle.
I bought a bunch of shares for under a penny, and if I do get rich off of it, the first thing I'll do is try to help out those friends I've made here who's lives were severely affected by this ridiculous stock. I'd ask the same of you, but even the most destitute probably wouldn't take a penny from someone who is as obviously sick and twisted as you.
In closing, I feel the need to give you a hearty *BLEEP*, and please pass that along to "Rufus" as well.
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PCola77 -- since you feel the need to give me a "hearty *BLEEP*, name the place and time. I'll be there...
But be forewarned, *BLEEP, BLEEP, BLEEP*
As for the rest of you, why don't you just let this play out....before you pass judgement on those that have not been proven one bit guilty. Otherwise, I am telling you, there are gonna be a lot of individuals trying to look themselves in the mirror over their judgmental behavior....
Attack me, no biggie here....I have very thick skin. If just a few of you think twice, I have succeeded in my mission. Bottom line folks, things are not as they seem. You will see.
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Hey, fellas, you may notice I edited a coupla posts here: Although I understand, must remind everybody--the stock or the company.
Ironman: No--there's no "hehehe." Delusional posting is one thing...But if you ever threaten another member here, you will not only be submitted to the Webmaster's list for ban candidates (with *my* hearty recommendation), you also will be reported to as many legal authorities as I personally can think of...
OK, back to regular programming--carry on, fellas...
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Let this play out? That was what people were saying when this opened around $2 on the greys. Guess what, the people that "let this play out" that could have gotten out even, or close to it ended up losing pretty much everything. So sorry that after 18 months it rings a bit hollow, especially coming from an anonymous poster who's been here all of a week or so and refuses to give any background on why he's saying what he's saying.
I'm not a violent person, and I wish no physical harm to anyone, but ya know what, if Rufus really did lose his ranch and horses, then I'm glad. He personally cost a lot of people a lot more than physical posessions, and I think he's just insane enough to either not understand that fact, or to think that it's the fault of that person, and he has no responsibility.
And by the way, your argument that no one can prove the "dump" part of the P&D is retarded. When a stock goes from $4 to under a penny, there was a dump. No one really cares who dumped or why, just that someone dumped, and now their money is gone.
Oh, and if a friend/colleague at the SEC/FBI/SS said "be patient and let this play out", I would assume he would mean that I will find out all of the details of how the P&D was orchastrated when all of the i's are dotted and t's crossed. Maybe I'm just not enough of a conspiracy theorist, and can't "think outside the box" enough, but my ability to see things as they really are instead of living in a fantasy world of "what if's" has served me well in stock trading and life in general.
LOL, even your screen name is based on a ficticious character. You obviously can't handle the real world...
quote:Originally posted by Ironman64: PCola77 -- since you feel the need to give me a "hearty *BLEEP*, name the place and time. I'll be there...
But be forewarned, *BLEEP, BLEEP, BLEEP*
As for the rest of you, why don't you just let this play out....before you pass judgement on those that have not been proven one bit guilty. Otherwise, I am telling you, there are gonna be a lot of individuals trying to look themselves in the mirror over their judgmental behavior....
Attack me, no biggie here....I have very thick skin. If just a few of you think twice, I have succeeded in my mission. Bottom line folks, things are not as they seem. You will see.
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It will be found and revealed once this plays out that Harris (or any on his side of the fence) was nowhere near the dump in CSHD. It will find that friends of many here, however, were quite involved. They will pay a hefty price.
Chew on that for a while.
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Here's what you fail to understand. Because of Rufus, people lost significant chunks of their life savings. Had he never opened his mouth with his garbled proclamations, you wouldn't have seen anyone hold this from $4 down to even as low as $1. No one cares who dumped, and no one cares if Rufus is found to be totally innocent in all of this, people are upset that they LOST MONEY. If Rufus is only concerned that his reputation will come out of this unscathed, then that in and of itself shows how much he is at fault, because he led people to believe that they would get their money back and more, but as you seem to be framing it, he's merely out to prove he wasn't the cause of the drop. So whether he's guilty of dumping or "just" guilty of misleading people, he's still guilty in the eyes of everyone. No matter how this plays out, Rufus does not come out of this with his reputation in tact.
He reminds me of an elementary school kid who just keeps telling bigger and bigger lies to try to get everyone to like him. As if that behavior isn't sad enough by itself, he brought hundreds of innocent people into his ruse, and caused damage that will never be undone.
Sorry man, (and I use that term loosely), but no one likes Rufus, no one respects Rufus, and no one cares if Rufus fades into Bolivian (as Mike Tyson would say). Maybe someday he'll realize that, and bow out quietly, instead of continuing to give people false hope.
If I'm wrong, I'll be man enough to admit it. I've been here for a while and am not going anywhere. But we all know that if you're wrong, you'll never be heard from again, so you have nothing to lose by making these wild posts. It's a shame that you have no integrity, but that's the nature of the message board beast.
quote:Originally posted by Ironman64: It will be found and revealed once this plays out that Harris (or any on his side of the fence) was nowhere near the dump in CSHD. It will find that friends of many here, however, were quite involved. They will pay a hefty price.
Chew on that for a while.
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quote:Originally posted by Ironman64: It will be found and revealed once this plays out that Harris (or any on his side of the fence) was nowhere near the dump in CSHD. It will find that friends of many here, however, were quite involved. They will pay a hefty price.
Chew on that for a while.
How will it be found? Whom are you speaking of and from who will they pay a hefty price? This all smells of nonsense. If you want to have any sort of credibility, you need to speak clearly and forthright. Here let me help you.
1) I believe _________________ was involved in dumping of CSHD shares prior to CSHD becoming a grey sheet 2) I believe this to be true because ___________________________ 3) __________________ can verify my claims 4)The way in which ___________________ will be penalized for their dumping tactics will be__________________________________________ 5)Anything I (Ironman64) says should be considered credible because___________________
Until then, I will amuse myself by chewing air.
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quote:Originally posted by Ironman64: It will be found and revealed once this plays out that Harris (or any on his side of the fence) was nowhere near the dump in CSHD. It will find that friends of many here, however, were quite involved. They will pay a hefty price.
Chew on that for a while.
Griff, is that you? Or are you ronburgundy? lol
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I still have my CSHD shares that sit and mock me in my account, but I have not paid much attention to this thread lately. But Ironman intrigues me.
Ironman, if your ideal scenario were to come to pass, what would happen to the following people:
Person A: Bought 10,000 shares at .20 before the run up, but did not sell any, because they were waiting for the $15 reset and 6:1. Person B: Bought 10,000 shares at $2 and is still holding Person C: Bought 10,000 shares at .20 on the way down, and is still holding Person D: Bought 100,000 shares at .01, and is still holding.
Now, what about the same 4 people, but if they sold at some point to just take their loss?
Person E: Bought 10,000 shares at .20 before the run up, and has since sold for almost a total loss Person F: Bought 10,000 shares at $2 and has since sold for almost a total loss Person G: Bought 10,000 shares at .20 on the way down, and has since sold for almost a total loss Person H: Bought 100,000 shares at .01, and has since sold for almost a total loss
I'd like to hear your take on each of the 8 cases, but the question I am most concerned with is the case of Person B who put $20,000 into this. Do they have any chance of ever seeing that money again, or do you think that we will eventually find out that Rufus wasn't involved in the dump of shares, but that person is pretty much out of luck?
I'm also curious if your end result assumes you can treat Person B and Person D differently, or if Person B getting their $20,000 back means that Person D pulls in $200,000 on this.
What say you?
Jo
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