quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Wally didn't this JG already post some subpoena that he got a few months ago? when they wanted all the stuff from the computer?
Yes, the first subpoena was supposedly from the FBI for a grand Jury that took place on the 9th of Jan but he recieved the subpoena on the 17th.
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Wow what the heck is going on here? I dotn know much about financing etc...but what exactly is everyone speculating is going on in plain english
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IMO, people are really trying to cover their A$$. Who needs to and who doesn't is yet to be determined but the Chit is about to hit the fan.
From having read everything out there on the other boards, I tend to believe and this is just my personal opinion, that RPH was successful in getting the default set aside and the case will now move forward.
Why do I believe this? Well, Rufus is saying case dismissed but when reading what Rufus says it seems necessary to read between the lines, therefore when I combine this with what James Gee(Dogmondo) posted, I think the SEC is now going forward with collecting evidence.
quote:Originally posted by wallymac: IMO, people are really trying to cover their A$$. Who needs to and who doesn't is yet to be determined but the Chit is about to hit the fan.
From having read everything out there on the other boards, I tend to believe and this is just my personal opinion, that RPH was successful in getting the default set aside and the case will now move forward.
Why do I believe this? Well, Rufus is saying case dismissed but when reading what Rufus says it seems necessary to read between the lines, therefore when I combine this with what James Gee(Dogmondo) posted, I think the SEC is now going forward with collecting evidence.
Where the evidence points is anybody's guess.
Wally
Shouldn't they have been collecting evidence for the past 9 months now?
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quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: Still makes no sense, Rufie has no lawyer, didnt answer the default on time. thats not how you do business unless you are broke.
What you say maybe true but it is completely up to the Judge to decide whether to set aside a default or not and it is set aside more often than not becauses Judges want cases determined on the merits of the case and not technicalities.
Rufus has every right to defend himself, remember that the SEC is the one who filed the action against CSHD AND Rufus.
I am not saying that he won the case or will win the case. Just saying that it would not surprise me if the Judge decided to set aside the default and allow Rufus to answer the SEC allegations.
Keep in mind that these are still allegations and nothing more until a court/Jury finds different.
I'm just hopeful that the court case will go forward and that we will be given more information because of that. Let the chips fall where they may.
Thanks for taking the time to read the other boards...that's a lot of posts to trudge through in order to find pertinent data to this "drama". . Is (are) there any new entries on PACER or other public sites that give evidence to the default being set aside, in addition to the deductions being drawan from reading between the lines. .. I hope you have a good Father's Day this year... . Best Regards and GLTA Bucky
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Thanks for taking the time to read the other boards...that's a lot of posts to trudge through in order to find pertinent data to this "drama". . Is (are) there any new entries on PACER or other public sites that give evidence to the default being set aside, in addition to the deductions being drawan from reading between the lines. .. I hope you have a good Father's Day this year... . Best Regards and GLTA Bucky
No Bucky. Like I said in my postings, nothing on PACER yet. Actions usually take a few days to appear on PACER. I have seen the digital copy of the subpoena for the records tht James Gee has but it also is only a digital copy of a digital copy so I would not call it evidence.
Seems that many people around this play think it's funny to put false information out there or should I say misinformation.
I can handle it but I find it cruel because there are many people who invested a big sum of money and the BS affects them. All the Ups and Downs.
I hope that the activity taking place does mean that the case is going forward so that there is closure one way or another.
I watch because I've learned a lot here. It's been very educational not just in the legal and stock investing world but also in the field of human behavior.
It's been worth the price of admisson for me and I will see the end of the show.
quote:Originally posted by thesource: You guys should call Ms. Black's office and verify Rufus's story . If the case was dropped , she should be able to confirm it with you .
No one is stating that the case was dropped. Rufus said a case was dropped but never stated which one. If you read the postings you will see that we are only attempting to read between the lines as to what was dropped. The Animal Cruelty? THe default? or anything else.
PACER will tell us.
I'm actually surprised at what Alana has said about the case since it is the SEC's norm to NOT comment on cases that are pending.
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She only commented on the information that was public knowledge to me . When I pushed the other questions , she started to comment but quickly stated that she could not comment on the question . She did make it perfectly clear that CSHD had not responded to the case properly and to the best of her knowledge still did not have legal counsel .
This conversation was several weeks ago and I do not believe anything has changed reguarding the case with the SEC . As far as the case on his animal abuse charges , I don't know and don't care .
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wally, ya know? that has kinda bugged me ever since I saw posts contending "Alana said..."
What "source" posted seems much more in keeping with the responses I've ever gotten re an ongoing investigation. I called her but it seemed to me I was getting into "phone tag"...never did follow up. Others at SEC seem to have no problem returning calls...or NASD, for that matter. May not be as quickly as we'd like, lol...
But I hear you: by what they post, should be no comment. I understand that, too.
But I don't agree with it: if pennies are such an overwhelming problem, they could transfer one senior person and hire two assistants to point folks to relevant links, rules and regs. If *they* get overwhelmed? Fine. hire/transfer some more. They need to get over the idea that trading will get back to what it "used to be." Online trading opened the market to the lil guy, and we want/expect the rules to be followed.
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quote:Originally posted by T e x: wally, ya know? that has kinda bugged me ever since I saw posts contending "Alana said..."
What "source" posted seems much more in keeping with the responses I've ever gotten re an ongoing investigation. I called her but it seemed to me I was getting into "phone tag"...never did follow up. Others at SEC seem to have no problem returning calls...or NASD, for that matter. May not be as quickly as we'd like, lol...
But I hear you: by what they post, should be no comment. I understand that, too.
But I don't agree with it: if pennies are such an overwhelming problem, they could transfer one senior person and hire two assistants to point folks to relevant links, rules and regs. If *they* get overwhelmed? Fine. hire/transfer some more. They need to get over the idea that trading will get back to what it "used to be." Online trading opened the market to the lil guy, and we want/expect the rules to be followed.
"Online trading opened the market to the lil guy, and we want/expect the rules to be followed."
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I just saw JG's subpoena...why is HE the defendant? Are they having a separate case going against him? and it is from Texas rather than Georgia? Not following JG stuff too closely but was wondering if anyone might be...
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quote:Originally posted by 10of13: I just saw JG's subpoena...why is HE the defendant? Are they having a separate case going against him? and it is from Texas rather than Georgia? Not following JG stuff too closely but was wondering if anyone might be...
I cant imagine that anyone gave him permission for the things he has been posting so im curious about this subpoena. From what ive seen it appears that he is taking the stance as defendant against Rufus but ill wait for the court docs to decide.
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I have received subpoenas for cases...to appear as a witness...and the plaintiff and defendant are the names of the parties in the case...
I have never seen any witness in the defendant's "space"...his name would appear in the "body" of the subpoena...but then again...stranger things have happened with CSHD...
**also the volume is high and it is going up and down between 150% and 200%...kinda funny to watch...
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Well, id like to speculate that JG is spouting off that he is working with the SEC but in actuality they are inviting him in for "other" reasons. Whatever it is they are doing I hope they are able to sift through the BS carefully.
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quote:Originally posted by 10of13: I have received subpoenas for cases...to appear as a witness...and the plaintiff and defendant are the names of the parties in the case...
I have never seen any witness in the defendant's "space"...his name would appear in the "body" of the subpoena...but then again...stranger things have happened with CSHD...
**also the volume is high and it is going up and down between 150% and 200%...kinda funny to watch...
I just see "TO: James P. Gee" *under* the defendants... instructed to deliver e-files June 19 then appear for deposition June 26...
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quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Mr. C- your mailbox is full....
Hey Jenna
Is there a rumour going around that something big has happened behind the scenes??!!
Hey Flahlyesss!!!
Rumor??? Not sure guys... You may be referring to Rufus' last post on Friday? He stated that the case was dismissed & he has the documents to prove it....
As far as "the case" is it the one with the SEC?...is it the one with the Aminla Cruelty case??...was that one even a case yet???
Don't know, nothing is in Pacer's & that would be difinative so not sure....
Is that the rumor you have heard?
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btw, I assume I am seeing the same thing...anyway, what's odd to me is the "Northern District of Texas"...
I would've assumed that either the Ga court would issue it, OR the Texas district would direct him to the Fort Worth office. Then if Ga folks needed to be there, *they* would fly in...
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quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Jenna? If there is can you post the rumor? Or can you PM it to me? TIA
I'm not sure what it is 10....I think you guys may be referring to the case dismissal? ...but which case?
If I hear of another rumor I will let you know....
There is also something going on with James Gee & a subpeona....I think someone from Rufus' site may be forwarding that subpeona to Alana Black so she sould verify it's validity...I'll let you know if I hear anymore....
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quote:Originally posted by T e x: btw, I assume I am seeing the same thing...anyway, what's odd to me is the "Northern District of Texas"...
I would've assumed that either the Ga court would issue it, OR the Texas district would direct him to the Fort Worth office. Then if Ga folks needed to be there, *they* would fly in...
The other interesting tidbit there is that James Gee posted it on Friday. If you believe the Subpoena, Alana signed it on Friday.
THe whole Texas vs Georgia court makes no sense to me.
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: **also the volume is high and it is going up and down between 150% and 200%...kinda funny to watch...
I just looked through some charts, and if i read it correctly, this is the highest volume since we came back from that 10 day suspension/halt thing.
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On another board..I saw someone mention about restricted shares being sold...? Maybe the end is so near that those are being sold to get out with something? I don't know...just a thought..
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