quote:Originally posted by thesource: Ok , maybe its more like the bashers , pumpers and hopeless .
you're right, it's hopeless. and continuous
we come here and share rumors, don't take them too seriously... if insiders come here and start offering insider info? i usually discount it as a complete lie...
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quote:Originally posted by humble: Almost comically I can point to definitive proof that this thing is not dead OR done; people are still actively following it like almost no other penny stock out there right now - after more than 7 months of being on the greys. If that is dead then I don't know what definition you are using.
Are you saying your definitive proof is that so many are still here? I think it's cause so many lost so much and broke their own rules of trading on this one and are still looking here for hope. That's my story anyway.
Good to hear from you humble. I always enjoy your post!
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quote:Originally posted by T e x: Good point--I was mostly responding to the idea that "no assets" are available. In that sense, the sooner the better, I would think... If disgorgement actions are successful, unlikely that much if any would be returned to shareholders. But your point about "more evidence" is well taken...
Its you that enforced the idea on me long ago (almost a year now!) to post only facts....although I slip from time to time I try to stick by it today.
Thats why i just HAD to add your comment
It sure would be nice to pin something on whomever banked on this though. Everyone definitely wants someone to blame...in a financial sense.
gawrsh... don't know that I advocated posting "only" facts. Agreed, though, in the main, if you intend "sticking to the facts" and having discussion based on fact. Lordy knows I like my fun, too. I don't even mind the occassional, good ol' conspiracy theory...
But once it's too far afield? IMO should be on the "off-topics" forum...
Got a question, though-- are you hinting/saying/declaring that I've left the realm of fact in some post or discussment? Otherwise, am confused
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: I hope this is over by end of 2007
there'll just be another one st22. since i've been here? i've seen a dozen or more.. this one has (by far) had the most interesting twists and turns of all of 'em tho...
we've had diamond mines,gold mines, modeling agencies(even Paris Hilton in that one), one security gadget after another, laser keyboards, gay TV, voice PC interfaces etc. etc....
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quote:Originally posted by TimW: Told ya'll.... the animal cruelty stuff was BS... but no one ever listens to little timmy...
so that brings us to the next question which is whether or not unusual pressure was really brought to bear on the County to bring the charges? i'm still at a loss to comprehend how anybody would put 17 horses on 3 acres. i did a little reading on it and it appears there are a few "stables for hire" that do it... but breeders?
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quote:Originally posted by TimW: Told ya'll.... the animal cruelty stuff was BS... but no one ever listens to little timmy...
so that brings us to the next question which is whether or not unusual pressure was really brought to bear on the County to bring the charges? i'm still at a loss to comprehend how anybody would put 17 horses on 3 acres. i did a little reading on it and it appears there are a few "stables for hire" that do it... but breeders?
quote:Originally posted by TimW: Told ya'll.... the animal cruelty stuff was BS... but no one ever listens to little timmy...
I feel Lee Webb getting sued pretty soon for slander.
Nope that would make too much sense. Almost as much as gathering evidence against CSHD to prove them guilty BEFORE halting the stock, causing doubt and indirectly being responsible for the downfall of the PPS and causing hundreds of small investors to lose money.
Who said predumed innocent before being proven guilty? Sure wasn't the SEC...Are they part of the US Gov't?
I'll get off my soap box when something happens one way or another. But, if there was some evidence against CSHD Wouldn't the SEC publish it already?
THe SEC was in touch with both Rufus and Ben before the suspension. THey asked for information and it was never supplied. Rufus wanted this to go tocourt by his own admission.
You cannot blame the SEC for that. Rufus did force their hand by not cooperating. They did the only thing they could do.
It may turn out to be wrong but it was Rufus that forced it.
GLTA Wally
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quote:Originally posted by T e x: "But, if there was some evidence against CSHD Wouldn't the SEC publish it already? "
no.
Have you never followed any suspended issues before?
lol, it's these type of posts that give rise to the idea that "nothing has progressed" in Joe Retail's community of understanding...
Yet, from what I've seen, many of us have in fact learned plenty from this play...
You are absolutely right. I've learned a ton from this play.
I had never bothered to do any DD as to what happens with companies that are suspened by the SEC. I'm sure many still haven't.
What I did learn is that the overwhelming majority were wrong. I also learned that the SEC never admits to making a mistake. Even if the company was not at fault the SEC will not come out and say so. It is left up to the company to put out a PR.
This if nothing else has turned into a play that has provided me with a wealth of knowledge not only about how the SEC works but the market in general.
Wally
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I just saw this ojn the SEC web site and had to laugh...kind of.
From: Jack E Trullinger, Jr Sent: January 19, 2007 To: rule-comments*sec.gov Subject: File No. 4-519
Dear Ms. Nancy Morris, I have read your proposal for changes regarding the way "Pink Sheet" companies can operate. Why do these measures have to be adopted?? If this is protection for potential shareholders, WHY IS IT NOT IMMEDIATELY IMPLEMENTED?
I am in complete agreement with your ideas on this matter!
Please excuse my brevity in this matter...
This is my introduction into the stock market and I have a small position with CSHD. At first it was my investment that I was screaming about...now it seems the (who's on first, who's on second) process precedes my initial alarm. Can you please try to explain how this fiasco can continue to exist? With all of the alphabet federal agencies that have seemingly been involved for several months? Is the SEC in place to stop this type of fraud against earnest shareholders before it happens? Protect shareholders from such wrong- doing? Are they in place to have the shareholders BEST INTERESTS? This seems hardly the case at all! If not, what is their responsibility regarding these matters?? I know very little about the stock market, however, I am a comprehensive reader, and none of this story makes any sense! This story has more subplots than any TNT drama what you could EVER imagine! I am not trying to draw light on this situation...but its true! Please respond to me in some fashion, as I would greatly appreciate any insight into this situation you may be able to offer me. Thank you, Ms. Morris.
Sincerely, Jack E Trullinger, Jr.
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quote:Originally posted by T e x: Good point--I was mostly responding to the idea that "no assets" are available. In that sense, the sooner the better, I would think... If disgorgement actions are successful, unlikely that much if any would be returned to shareholders. But your point about "more evidence" is well taken...
Its you that enforced the idea on me long ago (almost a year now!) to post only facts....although I slip from time to time I try to stick by it today.
Thats why i just HAD to add your comment
It sure would be nice to pin something on whomever banked on this though. Everyone definitely wants someone to blame...in a financial sense.
gawrsh... don't know that I advocated posting "only" facts. Agreed, though, in the main, if you intend "sticking to the facts" and having discussion based on fact. Lordy knows I like my fun, too. I don't even mind the occassional, good ol' conspiracy theory...
But once it's too far afield? IMO should be on the "off-topics" forum...
Got a question, though-- are you hinting/saying/declaring that I've left the realm of fact in some post or discussment? Otherwise, am confused
I was just pulling your chain...not hinting/saying/declaring anything other than a good chain pulling.
Its actually a bit refreshing to see you leave that realm of fact every now and then since facts are something we are seriously short on here.
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I got my cert yesterday. I think it has the DTC number that everyone talks about. The date from the TA is 6/05/07 and the DTC date is 6/08/07.
At the top is the corporate name and under that it says 200,000,000 authorized shares. I know this isn't the o/s, but it made me wonder what the o/s is these days. I have a bad feeling that Arlitt or the TA might have raised it as some point. I do think this would be illegal.
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This has been "bugging me"... It was on the June 5th when RPH said of his "horse" troubles...the dismissal that was shown from the county was dated the 5th...right? So how could it be that the dismissal came the same day as RPH being "arrested"? And? Why did they take the horses? Has anyone seem anything saying what the dismissal was for? If The charges have been dismissed...why hasn't he posted that his horses are back? It was a couple of days AFTER the 5th that he even posted he didn't have his horses..it might not be "CSHD" related...but it is related to the supposed CEO's credibility...IMO...
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: From Rufus:
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Joined: Feb 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 1,363 Location: Cartersville, Georgia Karma: 1,700 [ Exalt | Smite ] Re: Tuesday, June 5th « Reply #610 on Today at 6:27pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My family needs your prayers really bad right now, Like never before!
I can not fully explain, serious retaliation after yesterday’s exposure of the illegal market activities!! Combined forces using illegal gov corruption!!
Heavy personal shelling inbound, the personal war has begun!!
I have passed the torch to another to finish as a precaution!!
I have done my best to inform and show you the truth of the markets and how they use them!!
Caution to all; Please be very careful with what you post, Do not put you livelihood (LLH) at risk!!
Because of crazy activities, FINAL stage of NSS elimination has began for shareholder exit!!
Should take 2-3 weeks for torch carrier to make necessary preparations for your exit
May God Bless the real shareholder victims of the MM’s
We (family) are not in physical danger (LLH), they do not use physical means, The corruption is deeply rooted, they use alternate branches to attack via corruption
WE WILL PREVAIL, To those that feel this message, my families sacrifices are for you
I will continue the fight as long as I can!!
GODSPEED and Keep your head above the water; If you feel like you are sinking please pray for guidance!!
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quote:Originally posted by 10of13: LOL..Tex...you want confusion? you should try reading some of the crud on the other boards with this stock...Lordie...talk about confusion...
I bet, lol... by comparison, I imagine we are a haven of calm...
re: your questions about June 5...that bugged me, too, but had not "put my finger on it." Is it *possible* for the bureaucracy to screw up dates? Sure... In other words, is it conceivable somewhere/somehow that the authorities did not receive word that charges had been dropped--and so went ahead with the arrest orders? Sure...is possible. Probable? Likely? I guess we'd have to know more about the local conditions/sociology, etc.
However, I do stand by my earlier question: Where's the horses? now...
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I've been reading on the RPH board... on June 6th RPH posted this...
Jun 6, 2007, 1:59pm, neverlate wrote: Jun 6, 2007, 1:55pm, Rufus Paul Harris wrote:Yes it is true, but that incident is only the tip of the iceberg of crazy stuff that happened yesterday to family members
It is a full attack
Those that know me will tell you that I love my horses as if they were my children and treated them as such
Interesting and cool stuff and all in retaliation to my post
The first time they showed up and tried this crap was 2.5 hours after my answer hit the federal court in Atlanta
Then after my exposure of the illegal trading on here they showed up with reinforcements and forced the issue, locals did not cooperate the first time, but this time they used fed’s and threaten to pull the county’s funding if they did not move!!
WHERE DO YOU STAND RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK, AS FAR AS THE JUDGE IS CONCERNED, AND WHAT CHARGES ARE YOU CHARGED WITH, IF ANY
16 accounts of cruelty to animals, one per horse that I had
I never even hit a cell, booked and released"
and then on the 7th...he posted this...
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quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by stocktrader2006: Today at 12:42pm, Rufus Paul Harris wrote:
I Had one horse die several months ago, I even posted it on the site!! She was a cribber and cribbed on a wild cherry tree!!
No conditional problems, the state tried to take them the first time, 2.5 hours on the Tuesday after the answer to the SEC’s response!!
I told them that it was not going to happen, take me to court and prove your claim!!
While they were on my property (that same Tuesday) they put some kind of feed (all grain) and brought out molded hay!!, I refused to allow them to do it, but they placed it in the field and had a state agriculture agent with written order with them to do so!!
The next day my Best stallion and an expecting mare died!!
We had UGA pick up the horses for an autopsy!! The state intercepted the results and I have not seen them to date!!
We went to court and they could not prove anything I had all records for the horses disproving the claims, and told them I was going to counter sue when the results came in for what they have done!!
After I posted on here the other day, I have been told that agents showed up at the county, and told the county that if they did not charge me their funding was at risk!!
The court case was dismissed immediately (same day) and then state and FED officials showed up and charged me!!
The key to the dismissal was to prevent the UGA autopsy results from being disclosed, they were a result of an order of the court to prove their claim!!
Yes they took the horses!!
Yes, my daughters have not stopped crying over all of this!!
People, this was the last straw for me, they can play with me all they want too but when they took my horses, it is now WAR!!
James Gee, God blessed your wife and delivered her from your evil ways, Maybe I will have a talk with her soon!!
To the rest of you with motives, I will expose everything you have done before this is over!!
Yes, I have recently spoken with the SEC and they now want to discuss a settlement!!
I have 6 witnesses to all of this, and not all family but neighbors as well, who showed up to support!!"
Sooo..that dismissal that was shown(stamped June 5th) was from the first time they tried to charge RPH...NOT the next time...and the charges are still pending from what I can gather...
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