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Check this out...we might have some work to do...connecting dots.
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TheGreaterGood HSM Newbie
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Do not listen to the bashers. They are getting desperate. Their time is up. There is a higher power involved that you will not know about. Even your wildest theories will seem like child's play compared to what is actually happening. Concentrate on the green...
Connect the dots. Where are the bonds, ucc notes coming from??? Euroclear is a dead giveaway. Concentrate on the last 10k and what those assets were. Connect RICO. Connect to what is happening now in the market. Connect new trading platforms and our "credits". Connect Rufus' political connections. DD the judge. Let's see if you can find out who is pulling the strings. You won't. Read the shc letters and pay attention to what Rufus is saying and connect the dots. You are fine...in the end counting the numbers is what matters most. will you even remember how you got there?
OK...here is what I find extremely interesting. Check out the Participants section. No way was it Rufus and/or CSHD which met ALL 4 requirements. Kind of lends credibility to the puppet theory discussed earlier.
Euroclear
Euroclear is an independent Brussels, Belgium-based financial services company that specializes in the clearing and settlement of securities. It was founded in 1971 as part of J.P. Morgan & Co. Euroclear is the world's premier settlement system for domestic and international securities transactions, covering bonds, equities, and investment funds.
Market-owned and market-governed, Euroclear provides securities services to major financial institutions located in more than 80 countries.
In addition to its role as a leading International Central Securities Depository (ICSD), Euroclear also acts as the Central Securities Depository (CSD) for Dutch, French, Irish, and UK securities. CIK, the CSD of Belgium, joined the group in January 2006 and was renamed Euroclear Belgium.
The Euroclear System is operated by Euroclear Bank SA, a Belgian credit institution with its registered office in Brussels, Belgium.
Euroclear is the largest international bonds central securities depository in the world.
Participants
The Euroclear System has about 2,000 participants from more than 80 different countries. Most are banks, broker-dealers, and other institutions professionally engaged in managing new issues of securities, market-making, trading, or holding the variety of securities accepted by the System.
Applicants must meet four criteria to be admitted:
– adequate financial resources; – technological ability to use the Euroclear System; – need to use the Euroclear System; – sound reputation in the market.
In addition, internal anti-money laundering measures of the applicant institution are considered prior to any admission.
Supervision
Incorporated in Belgium, Euroclear Bank is subject to the supervision of the Belgian Banking and Finance Commission (BFC). In accordance with Article 8 of its Organic Law, the National Bank of Belgium (NBB) is in charge of the oversight of the Euroclear System.
Supervisors and overseers work in close cooperation in the implementation of their respective responsibilities at Euroclear Bank. Euroclear plc is also authorised as a service company by the Financial Services Authority in the United Kingdom.
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You would think, but maybe not in the shorts world. I just noticed the volume...think the shorts are getting scared now that John Arlitt has taken over?
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quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: Was it a buy or a sell? Do we know?
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: whoa did you see that 700,000 trade?
Well if someone bought it, someone had to sell it, or the other way around? right?
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Don't the share quantities and pps need to match exactly for trading on the greys? I have a buy order in for 3,000 at .16 but no takers and then someone comes along with 700,000 shares at .1557, sounds ike they knew what numbers to ask for?
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quote:Originally posted by CapitalGains: Thanks Chart walker. I also got a million shares of DDSI (on paper) cause they had good news and I've never had a million anything hehe.
Hey!
I passed on buying PYPR when it was .0001 (bought in later) 10 months later it's at .008!
Every $500 would have turned into $40,000.00
Again, use the indicators to see accumulating going on. Don't forgot to paper trade LONG and SHORT term trades.
CSHD COULD get a MM to sign on and we could jump to $2 a share... So use whatever you can dream up to put you in places with the greatest probable payoff ~
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Up almost a nickel. I'll take it hoping for that miracle of many more to come!!!
Who has actually purchased shares since the beginning of this fiasco? I have heard some saying they have and some saying they can't. I am as curious as a cat to know!!!
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quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Someone sold so someone had to buy. Either way someone is stocking up.
Or someone sold... while someone else covered their short.
Oh well... wasn't me As for the puppet senario. There is NO doubt in my mind that this has always been the case. We have been looking for that connection since the beginning. Hence the long discussions and questions surrounding William Tays involvement. The hours spent on the political contributions web sites looking for the D.C. link.
I will say I just stumbled across another billionaire with strong ties to Bill Cliinton while looking into John Arlitt. It also ties into the health and wellness article someone posted a page or to back. Anyone ever heard of Mr. Don Grenough the co-founder of Herbal Life. Well appearantly he was added to the BOD of NRG Entertainment while John Arlitt was doing Investor Relations. The Name and Ticker eventually changed to Trimimage and is run by a HOLDINGS company called Aspirion.
Anyway it is a shame I was not able to find anything on this John Arlitt guy... HA! Here are the links.
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Chart walker thats alot of money for $500! If I could hit one of those maybe my Dad wouldn't get so upset when I mention it anymore. I am up $5 on my $45 investment now. Thats 9% .
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You have to enter in your commision...what broker are you going to use? what is their charge to trade? Now deduct that from the $5 that you are up? AND you still have to deduct the charge for the sell... just please be careful... I'm sending you a PM with some info...do some reading OK? and also there is a board called investing topics for newbies...go looking around in it..LOTs of good info there...
quote:Originally posted by CapitalGains: Chart walker thats alot of money for $500! If I could hit one of those maybe my Dad wouldn't get so upset when I mention it anymore. I am up $5 on my $45 investment now. Thats 9% .
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quote:Originally posted by driver4t4: maybe a very strong connection between arlitt and tut. here is a post from hsm.
Quote: Originally Posted by TallRob ...
Wanna see something interesting? Apparently john arlitt posted as jarlitt*axioxnet.com. And if you search for jarlitt and tutenkamen you get: *************. google.com/groups/sear...en&qt_s=Search
Interesting.... If you check the link I just posted for John Arlitt investor relations to NRG Entertainment you will find another axionet.com email address for John... afcorp*axionet.com
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Ok, ive been relatively "quiet" but i have a question and im hoping someone can answer it.....
As a company we decided to create a shareholder committee. We were asked to cast a vote for our nominations so some of us did. Then, apparently that vote was tossed out and 10 members were picked based on share count...or maybe it was their fancy bulletin board screen names, i dont know. Anyway, my question.....Why were 10 people assigned to this committee as the "voice of the shareholders" yet none of them can communicate with the shareholders?
I understand that majority shareholders can carry weight when it comes to these things but give me a friggin break.....id like to know WHO these people are that are my "voice".
Id also like to know how it is that after 5 months i know less now about the company I bought shares in than the day i bought the friggin shares?!?! We know NOTHING about our company or the companies business plan. How does that make ya'all feel?
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Just got off the phone with Alana Black. Very professional and nice to deal with as always.
As far as she knows, there is not a court hearing on Monday the 4th. I asked about the default and what was going to happen. She said its kind of tricky and that Rule 55 states the course of action. It sounded like a defendant can even come in after the default has been ruled and ask for it to be removed.
I told her I thought the 4th was a deadline for CSHD and that after that the judge would rule for the default. She said that was not the case and that there is not a set date that the judge would rule for default. She did say that CSHD is late with their reply, but I guess we've already been late all along.
She said the first step was for CSHD to get a lawyer and that we have yet to do so.
Hopefully John will get this thing going by hiring a lawyer and taking care of this problem.
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Sick just sick! But the only thing that has changed is our ceo over and over LOL oh... j/k once the sec walks away from this stock we will be okay....
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quote:Originally posted by milliam: Just got off the phone with Alana Black. Very professional and nice to deal with as always.
As far as she knows, there is not a court hearing on Monday the 4th. I asked about the default and what was going to happen. She said its kind of tricky and that Rule 55 states the course of action. It sounded like a defendant can even come in after the default has been ruled and ask for it to be removed.
I told her I thought the 4th was a deadline for CSHD and that after that the judge would rule for the default. She said that was not the case and that there is not a set date that the judge would rule for default. She did say that CSHD is late with their reply, but I guess we've already been late all along.
She said the first step was for CSHD to get a lawyer and that we have yet to do so.
Hopefully John will get this thing going by hiring a lawyer and taking care of this problem.
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Catia..I agree totally. It wouldn't be too hard for them to post the names of the 10 members on their website at least. As for how they were picked, I think James might have used the top 10 people that had been voted for.
Hopefully we'll be getting some info soon!
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quote:Originally posted by milliam: Catia..I agree totally. It wouldn't be too hard for them to post the names of the 10 members on their website at least. As for how they were picked, I think James might have used the top 10 people that had been voted for.
Hopefully we'll be getting some info soon!
Well, i think you may be right...the top 10 were probably used. But, as some of us pointed out, how did we vote for 10 people without knowing who they are or MOST importantly how many shares they hold. I admit, i voted and i did it blindly. These people could be anyone. For all we know we voted for Timothy Miles using a different screen name over at HSM. Id love to hear the meeting minutes.
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I just had a thought...Alana says that the first thing that has to happen is for CSHD to get an attorney. I wonder if the court could not do anything against CSHD because we didn't have an attorney. I wonder if Rufus was buying time by not getting one.
quote:Originally posted by milliam: I just had a thought...Alana says that the first thing that has to happen is for CSHD to get an attorney. I wonder if the court could not do anything against CSHD because we didn't have an attorney. I wonder if Rufus was buying time by not getting one.
Just thinking...I'll stop now .
Hmmm, i never had that thought...thats not a bad guess really. I mean it is his MO to buy time.
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I had a buy placed for .18 today and it filled at .17. Same thing could have happened with the .1557. Someone put there sell in at that and someone had a buy in for say .16 and it filled at .1557.
Just a guess though.
quote:Originally posted by NEL: Don't the share quantities and pps need to match exactly for trading on the greys? I have a buy order in for 3,000 at .16 but no takers and then someone comes along with 700,000 shares at .1557, sounds ike they knew what numbers to ask for?
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I am on the same page Catia- I am not saying we are dealing with some wrong-doings here but lets just call it what it is.
We didn't vote for who was designated reps of the shareholders of this stock. You can't have your only means of communicating any type of shareholder event be via internet message boards!
I signed up for the committee awhile back- received confirmation email. All was well.... how or why or what drove the chosen ones I have no idea. Maybe they all like star wars? Its the internet- who knows......
I assume it was the good-ol-boy network. Some of them were original investors in FHAL. Do I think something terrible happened? No. Its not like I can put any time into running this show.
Bottom line of my point is this- lets all not call it a shareholder vote or a committee with reprentives voted for by joe-blow the shareholder.
Since they marketed the vote via message boards and online forums (no PR or kit from the company) it was a crapshoot anyway.
If someones internet service at home was off for a day you would have missed your chance to register and vote and pick a new CEO due to the 20 pages of nonsense you missed on HSM.
I have no problems with the good ol boy network. Been operating in it for awhile now. Just don't want us to call it what its not!
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Best explanation for the .1557 transaction is that it was a couple (or a bunch) or trades lumped into one. The odd number of .1557 comes from the averaging of all of the amounts.
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I agree...but buying time for what? It seems as if Rufus has been "buying time" since before the 10-k was filed. Remember they kept telling us that they were "doing what's in the best interest of the shareholders". This part of the puzzle is really bugging me.
quote:Originally posted by milliam: I just had a thought...Alana says that the first thing that has to happen is for CSHD to get an attorney. I wonder if the court could not do anything against CSHD because we didn't have an attorney. I wonder if Rufus was buying time by not getting one.
Just thinking...I'll stop now .
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The comittee has alot of explaining to do IMO. I know it was "thrown" together, but the lack of communication, seems a bit atypical and possibly illegal. If support was given as stated.
"On November 27, 2006, Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. shareholders, representing 51+% of the eligible voting shares of the Company, based on a unanimous recommendation from the CSHD Shareholder Committee, have voted and agreed to appoint Mr. John Arlitt as Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Conversion Solutions Holding Corp."
Then I hope each and every one of you Shareholder comittee members got an annoucement of the pending vote with time frame of abstintion, opportunity to vote, and recieved official results of that vote. Or it would appear that your hap-hazardously appointed shareholder comitte officials took your registration/share count and voted them for you, to reach a "unanimous" decision in support.
Additionally, I hope they didn't use your shares in the 51+% and use your registration as a signature. Naaaw they wouldn't do that... that would be highly illegal, I am sure they had MA support, I mean they had contact with Randy Mosley, they must have had contact with MA. Right?
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