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And BTW, what does the fact that I'm smarter than you have to do with whether I want you following my stock picks or not? And what place does your personal vendetta against me have in this discussion about why Beth was flailing at windmills with her previous line of questioning?
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Right. The old tried-and-true "you're acting like a preschooler" ad hominem. I stated my honest opinion on what Beth had to say, and you opened fire. I think it's pretty clear who's behaving in an immature manner.
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(BTW, there's nothing funnier than a mental midget moderator starting a fight with one of the regular users. Reflects very well on AS, I must say.)
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KB I wouldn't say they are going down with the ship. I would just say a Mactruck pulled into there house and loaded a ton of worthless shares apon them. I feel bad for many of you who have lost on this stock. I honestly hope the future will be better then your post, but I don't see that taking place. KB when you plays are you calling plays you have loaded months in advance or are you calling plays you have paid to call?
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(Also BTW, I have some screens to run, so I'm leaving now. I'm sure you'll take my silence as some kind of "victory" for you, as is typical of the less mentally astute participants in a discussion. That's fine. If it makes you feel better, feel free to think you won.)
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quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: And BTW, what does the fact that I'm smarter than you have to do with whether I want you following my stock picks or not? And what place does your personal vendetta against me have in this discussion about why Beth was flailing at windmills with her previous line of questioning?
Kevin? are you OK? i have no personal vendetta: you do... you are the one posting here and insulting people.... they tell you that you are doing it and you deny it... that is very immature behaviour... at least admit that you derive some pleasure from behaving this way.. or add some humor or something worthwhile...
your insults might make a kindergartner upset... a
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quote:Originally posted by bethbeth1: KB I wouldn't say they are going down with the ship. I would just say a Mactruck pulled into there house and loaded a ton of worthless shares apon them. I feel bad for many of you who have lost on this stock. I honestly hope the future will be better then your post, but I don't see that taking place. KB when you plays are you calling plays you have loaded months in advance or are you calling plays you have paid to call?
I'm not sure exactly what you're asking me. "When you plays are you calling plays you have loaded months in advance or are you calling plays you have paid to call?" As I said, not sure what that means, but any stock I bring in as a "pick" is a stock that I have put my own money where my "mouth" (keyboard) is. Now I'm out for awhile. Hope that answered your question.
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quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: And BTW, what does the fact that I'm smarter than you have to do with whether I want you following my stock picks or not? And what place does your personal vendetta against me have in this discussion about why Beth was flailing at windmills with her previous line of questioning?
Kevin? are you OK? i have no persoanl vendetta: you do... you are the one posting here and insulting people.... they tell you that you are doing it and you deny it... that is very immature behaviour... at least admit that you derive some pleasure from behaving this way.. or add some humor or something worthwhile
I insulted no one. I simply stated that those who are holding this stock have basically determined that they're "going down with the ship." How is that a personal insult? Now YOU, I insult, because you are always looking to start fights.
Now goodbye.
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quote:Originally posted by bethbeth1: KB I wouldn't say they are going down with the ship. I would just say a Mactruck pulled into there house and loaded a ton of worthless shares apon them. I feel bad for many of you who have lost on this stock. I honestly hope the future will be better then your post, but I don't see that taking place. KB when you plays are you calling plays you have loaded months in advance or are you calling plays you have paid to call?
I'm not sure exactly what you're asking me. "When you plays are you calling plays you have loaded months in advance or are you calling plays you have paid to call?" As I said, not sure what that means, but any stock I bring in as a "pick" is a stock that I have put my own money where my "mouth" (keyboard) is. Now I'm out for awhile. Hope that answered your question.
What I don't understand is how could you be making money trading and posting at the sametime. Many of the people who log into forums like these have the intent to just Pump there stock. Are you telling everyone you are a Pumper? A Pumper who has loaded his "Picks" Months in advance and looking to sell to any noob who doesn't have the knowledge to know not to trust anyone on a stock forum?
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quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: You're not going to get anyone to admit anything, Beth. They've all pretty much decided to "go down with the ship."
You're not going to get anyone to admit anything,
LOL KB... you aren't very honest with yourself... this is insulting to many of us that not as bright as you are...
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Not at all. I make position trades, lasting 5-20 days. I don't post a whole lot during the day, but the positions I take don't require a lot of monitoring. I've never been paid for a pick, and I don't make picks trying to cause a run, but rather because I see a run coming. Now, I really HAVE to get some research done. GL, Beth.
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quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: You're not going to get anyone to admit anything, Beth. They've all pretty much decided to "go down with the ship."
You're not going to get anyone to admit anything,
LOL KB... you aren't very honest with yourself... this is insulting to many of us that not as bright as you are...
Wow, I'm a real jerk. I said, "You're not going to get anyone to admit anything." What a horrendous personal attack! How could I be so cruel?
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: GL Beth.... he's not pumping, he doesn't even trade, he only posts his picks to prove he's smarter than the rest of us...
Yeah, you figured me out, Glass...
Beth, I post my picks because I think that I'm right about the pick. No more and no less.
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quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: BTW, I trade both my money and OPM as well, Glass. Do you have anyone trusting YOU with their money?
yawn.... KB... i have turned away a lot of offers... you make some odd assumptions about me... i'm not in this to feed my ego.... i really have been trying to help you....
CYA...
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Kb you might consider this a cult question, but where is your solid proof that this stock is done? The last PR stated that a new 10ksb and 10qsb were going to be released as soon as possible. What says we'e done wer'e closing the doors, we don't have assets. there's no JVs to create. What are you reading. Where is your proof.
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6digits this stock is done,because the mass public isn't going ot buy a Grey sheet stock. Not to mention because the SEC took there time to prove that this company is a fraud why would you risk putting your money back into it if you took profit or never took a position in the stock. This is exact thing that happened with CMKX,QBID, and many others. Rufus did a great job of pumping and dumping it. Now the investors pay.
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Right. You have "turned a lot of offers"? I'm assuming you meant to say you've turned DOWN a lot of offers, which I'm not sure I believe. You made a comment that I don't even trade my own money, and that I only make picks to prove how smart I am. I pointed out that you were wrong. You then being to ramble about how you "turned a lot of offers", and that I "make some odd assumptions" about you, and how you're "not in this to feed" your ego, and how you're "trying to help" me. You seem to have forgotten to take some medication or something. I don't care WHY you're here. Also, I don't need--or want--your help, either with stocks or some perceived social deficiency you find in me. My portfolio is up 21% in the last five weeks, trading momentum plays, and I've had several dates, so I think in both areas I'm doing quite well. You should probably focus on your OWN portfolion (if you have one) and social life (ditto).
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quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Kb you might consider this a cult question, but where is your solid proof that this stock is done? The last PR stated that a new 10ksb and 10qsb were going to be released as soon as possible. What says we'e done wer'e closing the doors, we don't have assets. there's no JVs to create. What are you reading. Where is your proof.
I've given my reasoning before in more detail, but I'll sum it up again here. The charts show a classic "pump-and-dump" pattern. The "management" of the "company" has a shady--at best--past, and has clearly done a VERY poor job with this company. These things combined lead me to say that this stock is done.
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Kevy! SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Your rambling again! Isn't mickey mouse and friends on or something. Or are you just bored because no ones entertaining your thread again? If you really are bored, do us all a favor and hop in your car, drive to lake dallas, and take some pics to see if they really are relocating their offices. Otherwise shut the he&& up!
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The SEC accused Conversion of fraud. They have'nt proved it yet. They have'nt showed where a pump and dump occurred either. Stocks can get off the grey market, the company did'nt even want to trade till the SEC thing was done. If there are assets to fund joint ventures and produce profits and share value then people are going to buy it. To me your full of empty cliches right now, of the same old unprovable basher type.
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quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Kb you might consider this a cult question, but where is your solid proof that this stock is done? The last PR stated that a new 10ksb and 10qsb were going to be released as soon as possible. What says we'e done wer'e closing the doors, we don't have assets. there's no JVs to create. What are you reading. Where is your proof.
I've given my reasoning before in more detail, but I'll sum it up again here. The charts show a classic "pump-and-dump" pattern. The "management" of the "company" has a shady--at best--past, and has clearly done a VERY poor job with this company. These things combined lead me to say that this stock is done.
oh well KB... the chart is nothing of the sort...
and that is why you should stop posting here.. cuz you are so wrong all the time...
the chart isn't even close to a pumpandump...
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quote:Originally posted by bethbeth1: Glassman thank you for the responce.
I am very aware that in life we don't have do-overs. What I fail to understand is as follows. Why is it so many people here failed to listen to the warnings of so many other media outlets of CSHD. They were deemed as bashers, but turned out to be correct at the end.
I've seen many messages posted, by memebers here saying saying "Why should we listen to you when you havent provided DD" Turns out that some of the KEY DD was false which was told to the CSHD cult times after times before the SEC halted trading.
Please provide the links that prove KEY DD, was false. Last I looked their had not been a determination of fraud by the court of the SEC. The SEC is alleging fraud, I'm not saying that ultimately it could prove true but as they say the jury is still out.
Secondly the stock is still trading albeit on the gray sheets but enforcement, if they had been able to prove their allegations would have already put the company in receivership.
If CSHD has no assests, how were they able to open a Euroclear account that requires $200 million in assests. There is a lot more here than any of us know. Would I recommend anyone to buy at this point? He77 no. There is still too much unknown and the ability to sell a position is not liquid.
If I had known that the SEC was going to step in and delist it would I have done anything different? Yes, I would have sold and waited for the dust to settle to reenter. Unfortunately very few are privy to SEC actions before they are taken.
The "CULT" as you call it are many people who believed that they had found a a stock that could change their lives. They had a dream and followed it. Some may have been more adamant than other's in defending their dream but that does not make them ignorant or clueless. There are many here on this thread that for quite sometime have stated that they had made money on this play and held shares to see what the final outcome would be.
Following this stock has been very educational in many respects. Through the DD done on this board we have learned quite a bit about the Euroclear system and the bond market. There is still much to be learned about both. We have also found that a group of individuals willing to share DD can accomplish much without verbal warfare. Go back to the old threads and you will find threads of discussion and DD where there were no personal attacks. It was all about the stock. That's what I enjoyed the most and hope that the same effort can be recreated in other stocks in the future.
I, for one will await the final outcome. The one where a court of law makes a determination of fact or the SEC shuts down the company or that the company shows proof that what they have claimed is real and that it can go forward.
As for Basher's, whether media or poster's, if they truly had the interest of the investor's in mind they would present the facts in a non confrontational manner. It's very diffcult to convince anyone they are wrong when you start out calling them ignorant dummies, stereotyping and grouping them as the "CULT" and protraying them as blind mindless drones. Could there have been another agenda? I will leave that up to the individual to decide. There are 2 sides to every story and usually the truth lies somewhere in between since bias always plays into it. I believe the truth here will also lie somewhere in between the claims of the company and the claims of the media and SEC.
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Kb you might consider this a cult question, but where is your solid proof that this stock is done? The last PR stated that a new 10ksb and 10qsb were going to be released as soon as possible. What says we'e done wer'e closing the doors, we don't have assets. there's no JVs to create. What are you reading. Where is your proof.
I've given my reasoning before in more detail, but I'll sum it up again here. The charts show a classic "pump-and-dump" pattern. The "management" of the "company" has a shady--at best--past, and has clearly done a VERY poor job with this company. These things combined lead me to say that this stock is done.
oh well KB... the chart is nothing of the sort...
and that is why you should stop posting here.. cuz you are so wrong all the time...
the chart isn't even close to a pumpandump...
If you think that, then you've never seen a pump-and-dump chart.
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Amazing- two pages of nothing. Thanks KB and Bethx2.
If it wasn't for you two I might have made a huge mistake. IN fact- I am going to dump my position in this stock.....rats- no trading today. Perhaps I will remember the good points you made on Monday morning.
Thanks for taking time out of your busy saturday to save us.
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I haven't said that they were "ignorant" or "clueless." I've just said that no matter what is posted here, those who are still long in this stock are "true believers" and they won't be swayed, even if it means going down with the ship.
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You put too much weight in your words KB your head must be very inflated. You say it and we all jump is that how it works?
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: I haven't said that they were "ignorant" or "clueless." I've just said that no matter what is posted here, those who are still long in this stock are "true believers" and they won't be swayed, even if it means going down with the ship.
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