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I can't remember the mention of complications with the bonds.
Back to the case at hand...did any PRs/company info ever mention "costly to draw down" as a possible impediment? I thought everything was always, "we've got this, we've got that, no problem, it's a slam dunk."
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quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: no pumping or bs either st matthew. if i was your brother what you advise me to do with this stock? hold, buy more, or sell out?
You mean at this very moment? Too many variables to consider. A lot would depend on the entry point and your comfort level. It depends on whether you have protected your capital at this point. If you were riding free shares, I would tell you to let it ride...forget about the (free) shares and check back once a month. The upside still far out ways the alternative.
If you had not protected your capital, I would say....continue to monitor the boards and look for clues, positive signs, or red flags. I know you don't want to hear this, but you would have to go with your own DD, your gut, and your comfort level. The moment the upside crosses below the downside...get out.
Unfortunately, I did not get into this stock early enough to protect my capital. I am NOT riding free shares. Therefore, I'm doing whatever I can to figure this rollercoaster out. I'm making contacts on both boards...I'm asking questions, making phone calls, sending PM’s...doing whatever I can legally do to find out what is going on with our company.
I still believe in the business plan...if that's what you mean. There are a lot of very smart people on this board (and on HSM)....many smarter than me. I trust them. We work together to find the facts and the truth.
When and / or if this thing starts to look like a 3 legged muddy dog on a rainy day that is entered into the Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show…and I get to the point where I feel like saving my investment is more important than holding on to my belief…I will sell.
Right now…it just looks like a muddy dog on a rainy day. I just hope we don’t loose a leg. I believe with John Arlitt in charge…we will keep our legs and stand strong in a month or two.
Hope this helps…LOL.
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"However, there is also the Euroclear account and by all indications there are assets there that CVSU can access and leverage."
"all indications"? Please explain. Seems the "Euroclear angle" always traces to the twice-ousted, former CEO. . .
Review the requirements to even become a listed participant in the Euroclear system and you'll find plenty to be excited about. Whether RPH or the current leaders of CVSU have access to those necessary assets, they are there and verified by membership into the bank, and available to someone. Euroclear is a globally recognized institution, not part of some scheme to serve RPH. The credibility of membership is valuable.
Regardless of your opinion of CVSU's progress to date, somehow they got into the system and that tells me that there is something to the proposed asset base, at minimum to the 200m minimum asset base requirement, and possibly much more. That's a long way from the worthless pump-and-dump scheme that some choose to advertise.
Many people in the lower markets tie credibility to third party, independent audits. Would Euroclear allow CVSU an account without confirmation of assets?
"However, there is also the Euroclear account and by all indications there are assets there that CVSU can access and leverage."
"all indications"? Please explain. Seems the "Euroclear angle" always traces to the twice-ousted, former CEO. . .
Review the requirements to even become a listed participant in the Euroclear system and you'll find plenty to be excited about. Whether RPH or the current leaders of CVSU have access to those necessary assets, they are there and verified by membership into the bank, and available to someone. Euroclear is a globally recognized institution, not part of some scheme to serve RPH. The credibility of membership is valuable.
Regardless of your opinion of CVSU's progress to date, somehow they got into the system and that tells me that there is something to the proposed asset base, at minimum to the 200m minimum asset base requirement, and possibly much more. That's a long way from the worthless pump-and-dump scheme that some choose to advertise.
Many people in the lower markets tie credibility to third party, independent audits. Would Euroclear allow CVSU an account without confirmation of assets?
... In My humble Opinion
-------------------- "If you go the Extra Mile there will be no Traffic Jams".
"However, there is also the Euroclear account and by all indications there are assets there that CVSU can access and leverage."
"all indications"? Please explain. Seems the "Euroclear angle" always traces to the twice-ousted, former CEO. . .
Review the requirements to even become a listed participant in the Euroclear system and you'll find plenty to be excited about. Whether RPH or the current leaders of CVSU have access to those necessary assets, they are there and verified by membership into the bank, and available to someone. Euroclear is a globally recognized institution, not part of some scheme to serve RPH. The credibility of membership is valuable.
Regardless of your opinion of CVSU's progress to date, somehow they got into the system and that tells me that there is something to the proposed asset base, at minimum to the 200m minimum asset base requirement, and possibly much more. That's a long way from the worthless pump-and-dump scheme that some choose to advertise.
Many people in the lower markets tie credibility to third party, independent audits. Would Euroclear allow CVSU an account without confirmation of assets?
... In My humble Opinion
Euroclear also gave their statement to the SEC. Alana Black told me this firsthand.
What they told her was not privy to the public so she could not share.
Seeing the activity on the euroclear portal and the fact that the SEC has not taken receivership of CSHD after their statement leads me to believe one thing. The bonds are ours.
Had they not been this would be over. Period
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roller coaster rox but dont eat beforehand ~BB
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: I did take time out to ride the roller coaster on the roof. (Wish I hadn't. j/k They compted me the ticket. Anyone with a death wish should get their body weight up to about 240lbs. and ride that coaster. If you don't fall off the roof, you at least die of a good heart attack.)
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I had drank a few too many comp drinks before I went on that coaster. Can't say I had ever ridden a coaster drunk before. Doing it for the first time at about 40 stories in the air over Las Vegas at night did not help the ride.
I spent the rest of the trip and a good portion of the week after. Looking at the complementary picture of me screaming my buzzed head off in that little coaster with one of those, "Man that was just plain stupid." Thoughts in my head.
Yeah it sorta rocked... HAHA!!
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: roller coaster rox but dont eat beforehand ~BB
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: I did take time out to ride the roller coaster on the roof. (Wish I hadn't. j/k They compted me the ticket. Anyone with a death wish should get their body weight up to about 240lbs. and ride that coaster. If you don't fall off the roof, you at least die of a good heart attack.)
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"Unfortunately, I did not get into this stock early enough to protect my capital. I am NOT riding free shares.."
what is a free share? are you refering to profit, which is why most of us are here? if you squander your profit what is the sense of trading? rule one - if you have a chance to get profits, take them and move on. keep cashed out. minimize your risk. every share has a value. there is no such thing as a free share or a free lunch either.
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Rule one...Protect your capital...Period...bottom line...end of story. As I said before...I did not get in early enough to do that...my bad...bad luck...whatever.
Rule two...don't invest more than 10% of your money in one company / stock. Several people have broken that rule as well...thanks to Rufus.
There is no rule about profits because they are not guaranteed...unless you are in a CD or savings account. Even then, you are fighting our old friend Mr. Inflation.
Are you saying that as soon as you have made a profit, you should sell? Craziness! You will not get very far with that play from that rulebook. There absolutely is a such a thing as "free shares"...many people who bought in early enough and / or have flipped this stock enough times hold them now. I believe Simon was one of them. The best known investors in the world live by this creed.
I can tell you one thing for sure. If I had known on October 23rd what I found out on October 25th...which is that you could have sold your shares on October 17th and still received the 6 x 1 free shares...I would have sold in a heartbeat to protect my capital. I would bet (also) that I would be sleeping a whole lot better right about now because I held free shares.
Another thing...a friend of mine bought my lunch today...I guess that would make it "free" to me.
Speaking of sleeping…I’m out…good night!
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs:
what is a free share? are you refering to profit, which is why most of us are here? if you squander your profit what is the sense of trading? rule one - if you have a chance to get profits, take them and move on. keep cashed out. minimize your risk. every share has a value. there is no such thing as a free share or a free lunch either.
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this has become a bad dream that you keep waking up from , but when u wake up ur still int he nightmare... !!!!! *#$%&$%^#^%$#^%&^#!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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quote:Originally posted by trade04: this has become a bad dream that you keep waking up from , but when u wake up ur still int he nightmare... !!!!! *#$%&$%^#^%$#^%&^#!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good morning board- Trade04 sounds like you picked the wrong month to quit sniffin glue?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by St. Matthew: [QB] Rule one...Protect your capital...Period...bottom line...end of story. As I said before...I did not get in early enough to do that...my bad...bad luck...whatever.
Rule two...don't invest more than 10% of your money in one company / stock. Several people have broken that rule as well...thanks to Rufus.
There is no rule about profits because they are not guaranteed...unless you are in a CD or savings account. Even then, you are fighting our old friend Mr. Inflation.
Are you saying that as soon as you have made a profit, you should sell? Craziness! You will not get very far with that play from that rulebook. There absolutely is a such a thing as "free shares"...many people who bought in early enough and / or have flipped this stock enough times hold them now. I believe Simon was one of them. The best known investors in the world live by this creed.
I can tell you one thing for sure. If I had known on October 23rd what I found out on October 25th...which is that you could have sold your shares on October 17th and still received the 6 x 1 free shares...I would have sold in a heartbeat to protect my capital. I would bet (also) that I would be sleeping a whole lot better right about now because I held free shares.
Another thing...a friend of mine bought my lunch today...I guess that would make it "free" to me.
Speaking of sleeping…I’m out…good night!
i guess we have to agree to disagree, don't we? my thinking got me to where i'm at and your thinking got you to where you're at. bottom line. and i wouldn't trade. btw i am also locked in at the 6 to 1 if it ever happens because i sold on 10/17 or so. i posted the details somewhere back in the thread. i don't really remember all of the details but i did make a profit on it and i am too lazy to look it up right now. ask me next month when i do my taxes. i slept pretty well last night, too.
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Just a comment that the ebb and flow of the CSHD boards consitently goes with the release of PR's. Good and happy on news...complaining and infighting on no news.
I understand it since no one likes uncertainty.
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by portman: Boy can you predict the board mood by the PR releases of this company.
As in, there is no PR?
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Dang! IF I ran a billion dollar hedge/mutual fund I'd consider throwing $1,000.00 into CSHD now or buying 1,000 shares.
$1,000 wouldn't even show up as a loss on the radar if the stock tanked but if it went back to $1.00 or more (as most of us still believe) we'd be the heroes of wall street.
Now, how many hedge funds are out there? Thousands, 10's of thousands...times 1,000 shares? That's a lot of shares that could be bought as speculation.
"Many people in the lower markets tie credibility to third party, independent audits. Would Euroclear allow CVSU an account without confirmation of assets?"
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Ya Babe I almost flew out of the Cyclone at Coney Island on my first roller coaster ride. I don't think I weighed more than about 50-60 lbs. That was scary.
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: roller coaster rox but dont eat beforehand ~BB
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: I did take time out to ride the roller coaster on the roof. (Wish I hadn't. j/k They compted me the ticket. Anyone with a death wish should get their body weight up to about 240lbs. and ride that coaster. If you don't fall off the roof, you at least die of a good heart attack.)
quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: Humble gave us something to ponder.....
"Many people in the lower markets tie credibility to third party, independent audits. Would Euroclear allow CVSU an account without confirmation of assets?"
ya, I noticed that...thanks for the reply, Humble. (I was asking about a post of his, in which he said something like "all indications" are that the bonds are as claimed...will look that over again, later.)
To help me get clear on this point (remember, I missed much of "the play"), are we saying here that Conversion Solutions is one of the members/participants of Euroclear. I remember reading their "About us" stuff, and it seems like they claim a couple of thousand clients in 80 or 100 countries...in other words, very elite trading institutions, banks, and so forth.
So, by that reasoning, CSHD (the company) is on par with, or is among the world's elite financial institutions, because it's a member, too?
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Conversion Solutions has a Euroclear account- the institute has published requirements for obtaining an account.
The fact that CSHD HAS this account indicates that something was there. Banks requiring 200m worth of assets to get in the door probably have some sort of check to verify assets.
The ol adobe photoshop bond screen capture probably doesn't cut it.
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quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: Humble gave us something to ponder.....
"Many people in the lower markets tie credibility to third party, independent audits. Would Euroclear allow CVSU an account without confirmation of assets?"
ya, I noticed that...thanks for the reply, Humble. (I was asking about a post of his, in which he said something like "all indications" are that the bonds are as claimed...will look that over again, later.)
To help me get clear on this point (remember, I missed much of "the play"), are we saying here that Conversion Solutions is one of the members/participants of Euroclear. I remember reading their "About us" stuff, and it seems like they claim a couple of thousand clients in 80 or 100 countries...in other words, very elite trading institutions, banks, and so forth.
So, by that reasoning, CSHD (the company) is on par with, or is among the world's elite financial institutions, because it's a member, too?
I have never seen it this way, I see no proof CSHD is a "MEMBER" of euroclear, just that our "allegded" bonds are registered in the eurolcear system. and we are only a client by virtue of owning a stake in bonds registered with and trading through euroclear.
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quote:Originally posted by Chart walker: Humble gave us something to ponder.....
"Many people in the lower markets tie credibility to third party, independent audits. Would Euroclear allow CVSU an account without confirmation of assets?"
EXACTLY!
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