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Oh, and after reading that i didnt mean to direct that post at you Doc. I just meant we both have completely opposite thought processes taking place right now, which is fine obviously.
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quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: So, can anyone call Dave Perley? Because id love to speak with him. How were you able to reach him?
Please PM me if you can help me with that
Those "7 million and change" shares Rufus is holding did catch my attention when he said it on SPR. Everyone knows he had 9 so its yet another red flag.
Just going by memory here but I recalled that Sabra was the one that had 9M shares. Both Ben and Rufus had 7.5M shares. I remember us all discussing this because all of a sudden Sabra somehow ended up with more shares than anyone else.
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Cat ..... Glassman ....... I agree. First of all concerning Mike A. He lied to us about CEOTA. Hello ..... He is no good. I can add one more thing here....If I was John A. ...I would quit his position so fast heads would fall. I believe that he was the only one that had nothing to gain except the shares he BOUGHT. I wouldn't worry too much about it though. I wouldn't be surprised if JA told us all to "shove it". As you both know ..... I want all of us to do OK here ..... this is getting to be a bigger and bigger joke.
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quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: I am sorry people ....please don't get too upset with me, but; this goes beyond sanity. To put him back in charge begs the SEC to put an end to this for good. I can be wrong ....but ..... to me ...this appears to be one of the most foolish things I have ever seen in the Investment business.
The only thing more foolish would be putting an annonomous major shareholder without restricted shares in charge. I wonder sometimes where Tut bought in... was it $0.04 or $4??? What would I want most if I had a large sum of unrestricted shares at bargain basement price? I think a market place to trade them would be my first priority. Everything else would be second.
What do you think is the best long term plan for the company? Honestly. If we get relisted quickly and all the entire board is unrestricted investors who finally have an MM to hand hold their large trades... What is the motivation to carry out any business plan?
I personally would rather risk recievership than sub penny OTC trading with no communication or visibility into the company.
Not saying that either evil is great... Just looking for the lesser of two.
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quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: Cat ..... Glassman ....... I agree. First of all concerning Mike A. He lied to us about CEOTA. Hello ..... He is no good. I can add one more thing here....If I was John A. ...I would quit his position so fast heads would fall. I believe that he was the only one that had nothing to gain except the shares he BOUGHT. I wouldn't worry too much about it though. I wouldn't be surprised if JA told us all to "shove it". As you both know ..... I want all of us to do OK here ..... this is getting to be a bigger and bigger joke.
the infamous "log deal" ? i agree, as i stated many months ago? that deal was farcical... do some research here, and see who was pumping it? LOL..
the naked short issue was set up during that.. whoever sold short into that farce got caught by the announcement of the merger.... who was it that was doing the toxic lending to Alexander? look in that direction....
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Tax and all the rest of you ..... I respect all of your opinions. If you were asked to help choose someone to run the company, who would you choose? If you were asked advice .... what would you suggest? In other words ..... what direction or route should we be taking to get us back to a situation that is workable? This will probably be very interesting reading. We have people that all want and have the same goal but, our direction will probably be different.
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quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: Cat ..... Glassman ....... I agree. First of all concerning Mike A. He lied to us about CEOTA. Hello ..... He is no good. I can add one more thing here....If I was John A. ...I would quit his position so fast heads would fall. I believe that he was the only one that had nothing to gain except the shares he BOUGHT. I wouldn't worry too much about it though. I wouldn't be surprised if JA told us all to "shove it". As you both know ..... I want all of us to do OK here ..... this is getting to be a bigger and bigger joke.
the infamous "log deal" ? i agree, as i stated many months ago? that deal was farcical... do some research here, and see who was pumping it? LOL..
the naked short issue was set up during that.. whoever sold short into that farce got caught by the announcement of the merger.... who was it that was doing the toxic lending to Alexander? look in that direction....
Great point Glassman and also very interesting.
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I also wonder where m n 1 sits in all of this and how much Alexander was in with them. m n 1 put out that great stock analysis on FHAL and had Mike and his people (including the CEOTA guy) on a couple of times. What got me was the great stock analysis showing all kinds of good stuff and then in comes CSHD using FHAL as a bankrupt shell! I'm pretty sure m n 1 was on the short side...just from their actions.
I sure hope things come out on everything. Hopefully the FBI and SEC can figure this one out for us. I remember not trusting the SEC before, but now I'm leaning toward them being our only means of truth.
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I think that you will find out fairly soon who is charged by the FBI and SEC for Security fraud. I also think that our company is far from being finished. I believe that CSHD will eventually come out of this with quite a few scars, but there is going to be a hero in all of this. We need to support him. I HOPE THAT I AM RIGHT. This is more than just an opinion .....just a little tiny bit more.
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quote:Originally posted by milliam: I also wonder where m n 1 sits in all of this and how much Alexander was in with them. m n 1 put out that great stock analysis on FHAL and had Mike and his people (including the CEOTA guy) on a couple of times. What got me was the great stock analysis showing all kinds of good stuff and then in comes CSHD using FHAL as a bankrupt shell! I'm pretty sure m n 1 was on the short side...just from their actions.
I sure hope things come out on everything. Hopefully the FBI and SEC can figure this one out for us. I remember not trusting the SEC before, but now I'm leaning toward them being our only means of truth.
Very good point. They aren't as evil as every one thought.
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quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: Tax and all the rest of you ..... I respect all of your opinions. If you were asked to help choose someone to run the company, who would you choose? If you were asked advice .... what would you suggest? In other words ..... what direction or route should we be taking to get us back to a situation that is workable? This will probably be very interesting reading. We have people that all want and have the same goal but, our direction will probably be different.
It's easier to say who we don't want running the company. IMO. that would be anyone who has been involved from Mike Alexander to Rufus to King TUT JA. Not one of them have looked after our best interests. They all seem to be more worried about the genreal preceptions of them than actually doing the job.
Warren Buffet comes to mind as someone I'd like to see run the company. HeHe.
In reality no one associated with CSHD/FHAL has prodcued. Yes we had the huge run under Rufus but we also have the suspension and delisting. If this company has a chance it will only be through new blood who can distance themselves from the current fiasco and make decisions based upon moving forward and not look back to cover their tracks.
quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: Tax and all the rest of you ..... I respect all of your opinions. If you were asked to help choose someone to run the company, who would you choose? If you were asked advice .... what would you suggest? In other words ..... what direction or route should we be taking to get us back to a situation that is workable? This will probably be very interesting reading. We have people that all want and have the same goal but, our direction will probably be different.
It's easier to say who we don't want running the company. IMO. that would be anyone who has been involved from Mike Alexander to Rufus to King TUT JA. Not one of them have looked after our best interests. They all seem to be more worried about the genreal preceptions of them than actually doing the job.
Warren Buffet comes to mind as someone I'd like to see run the company. HeHe.
In reality no one associated with CSHD/FHAL has prodcued. Yes we had the huge run under Rufus but we also have the suspension and delisting. If this company has a chance it will only be through new blood who can distance themselves from the current fiasco and make decisions based upon moving forward and not look back to cover their tracks.
JMHO> Wally
Theres not likely to be anyone that wants to get involved in this fiasco, unless theyre really not in it for any kind of compensation and they're really bored lol.
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quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: Tax and all the rest of you ..... I respect all of your opinions. If you were asked to help choose someone to run the company, who would you choose? If you were asked advice .... what would you suggest? In other words ..... what direction or route should we be taking to get us back to a situation that is workable? This will probably be very interesting reading. We have people that all want and have the same goal but, our direction will probably be different.
It's easier to say who we don't want running the company. IMO. that would be anyone who has been involved from Mike Alexander to Rufus to King TUT JA. Not one of them have looked after our best interests. They all seem to be more worried about the genreal preceptions of them than actually doing the job.
Warren Buffet comes to mind as someone I'd like to see run the company. HeHe.
In reality no one associated with CSHD/FHAL has prodcued. Yes we had the huge run under Rufus but we also have the suspension and delisting. If this company has a chance it will only be through new blood who can distance themselves from the current fiasco and make decisions based upon moving forward and not look back to cover their tracks.
JMHO> Wally
Great job Wally ...Who wouldn't want Warren? Just one thing to add to your great post .... I would like to give our current guy a couple of more weeks to complete a few things and also give the SEC and FBI a little more time to release info on what they are working on and what they have found.
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I think we all will be thanking John in the end...I really do.....I think behind the scenes he is getting things done but won't PR it until it is totally through....because he probably feels that we have been through enough....
I have a feeling we will hear from him soon....
THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION!!!!
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quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: Tax and all the rest of you ..... I respect all of your opinions. If you were asked to help choose someone to run the company, who would you choose? If you were asked advice .... what would you suggest? In other words ..... what direction or route should we be taking to get us back to a situation that is workable? This will probably be very interesting reading. We have people that all want and have the same goal but, our direction will probably be different.
Rufus Paul Harris... sorry if that was not as interesting as you were expecting. (or maybe it is.)
As for the advice... here are five. 1. "watch out for false prophets." 2. Don't listen to anyone posting on a stock message board when trying to make a decision of whether to buy or sell a security. 3. As far as CSHD carefully watch the current positioning that is going on. 4. Never trust someone who wants to help you watch your money. 5. Always protect your capital.
quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: Tax and all the rest of you ..... I respect all of your opinions. If you were asked to help choose someone to run the company, who would you choose? If you were asked advice .... what would you suggest? In other words ..... what direction or route should we be taking to get us back to a situation that is workable? This will probably be very interesting reading. We have people that all want and have the same goal but, our direction will probably be different.
Rufus Paul Harris... sorry if that was not as interesting as you were expecting. (or maybe it is.)
As for the advice... here are five. 1. "watch out for false prophets." 2. Don't listen to anyone posting on a stock message board when trying to make a decision of whether to buy or sell a security. 3. As far as CSHD carefully watch the current positioning that is going on. 4. Never trust someone who wants to help you watch your money. 5. Always protect your capital.
GLTA
No Tax I find that very interesting. Remember what I said about different routes that we might take to get to the same destination.
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quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: Tax and all the rest of you ..... I respect all of your opinions. If you were asked to help choose someone to run the company, who would you choose? If you were asked advice .... what would you suggest? In other words ..... what direction or route should we be taking to get us back to a situation that is workable? This will probably be very interesting reading. We have people that all want and have the same goal but, our direction will probably be different.
Rufus Paul Harris... sorry if that was not as interesting as you were expecting. (or maybe it is.)
As for the advice... here are five. 1. "watch out for false prophets." 2. Don't listen to anyone posting on a stock message board when trying to make a decision of whether to buy or sell a security. 3. As far as CSHD carefully watch the current positioning that is going on. 4. Never trust someone who wants to help you watch your money. 5. Always protect your capital.
GLTA
Tax ....I forgot to add this .....
#1 Your first two I see as and remember Rufus predicting $15
#2 Rufus telling you and me to buy the crap out of it.
I'm just kidding with ya. You know I respect you and your opinions.
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If those of you are correct about Rufus (and he leads us to a success story)...I will publicly apologize to all of you for being so foolish not to trust him. However I can't help but dream and hope that you find yourselves in that position that I just described.
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quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Tax- this is funny... I think it's kinda funny that it's become the SuperBowl of CEO's Rufus vs. John.....who will win???
...at least we can all get along even though we are rooting for opposite teams.....
Jenna ....We are all on the same team. We just have different game plans.
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quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: If those of you are correct about Rufus (and he leads us to a success story)...I will publicly apologize to all of you for being so foolish not to trust him. However I can't help but dream and hope that you find yourselves in that position that I just described.
I would apologize too doc - but I too hope that it's my opposition are the ones apologizing. HeHe...I don't like being wrong but I'm big enough to admit when I am.....(please no fat jokes)....
I just hope we all win in the end....& can have a good laugh in Vegas together!
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quote:Originally posted by thedoctor: If those of you are correct about Rufus (and he leads us to a success story)...I will publicly apologize to all of you for being so foolish not to trust him. However I can't help but dream and hope that you find yourselves in that position that I just described.
Nothing foolish about not trusting him. I don't but I trust John even less. I seem to remember his posts concerning New World Orders, Illuminati, etc. I also remember him touting the DD that he and his group had done and how we were standing at the gates of victory.
I trust none of them.
As far as the SEC and FBI reporting, it could be months and even years before that is issued.
I believe most here are looking for a quick fix that will help lessen the blow financially.
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If the SEC really doesn't want Rufus being our CEO, then I'm back to not trusting the SEC .
At this point, its going to come down to who acts first...Rufus reaching out to us, John fixing things and getting on with it, or the SEC clearing CSHD or closing CSHD. I think we all just want SOMETHING TO HAPPEN!
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quote:Originally posted by milliam: If the SEC really doesn't want Rufus being our CEO, then I'm back to not trusting the SEC .
At this point, its going to come down to who acts first...Rufus reaching out to us, John fixing things and getting on with it, or the SEC clearing CSHD or closing CSHD. I think we all just want SOMETHING TO HAPPEN!
It really comes down to who actually has the authority to act on behalf of the company. That portion of the equaion is still in doubt.
Is it Rufus or is it Tut?
We really don't know.
Posting during the day today because nothing going on with my other stocks at this time. Usually watch them and post here at night when the market is closed. God, I'm bored.
quote:Originally posted by milliam: If the SEC really doesn't want Rufus being our CEO, then I'm back to not trusting the SEC .
At this point, its going to come down to who acts first...Rufus reaching out to us, John fixing things and getting on with it, or the SEC clearing CSHD or closing CSHD. I think we all just want SOMETHING TO HAPPEN!
I am agreeing with you on both comments.
Honestly, I still do not trust the particular members of the SEC that are involved. IMO they could have handled this better.
They really looked sloppy in the beginning, and if their goal was to shut down this company, they have done a lousy job of it so far. Like trying kill a bear by using too small of a gun, and shooting them in the A$$! It just makes things alot worse, even though the infection could eventually do the job.
1.RPH-If he is to be believed,that he thinks he should step away so CSHD can move on with out the sec breathing down our necks.{not his exact quote}
2.Tut, who has proven nothing to us so far{after weeks} and then posts on HSM again.
I will wait for the outcome with the rest of you,but you all know I trust Rufus more. As Jenna stated, we have the right to this.
As far as the Sec. I think they rushed into this and should have waited until they had proof if there was any. Remember Rufus tried to get this halted, but was denied.
I don't know who should run this soap opera , if Rufus is right about stepping aside. Is he the CEO? Is tut the CEO? Too many questions and NO answers . I trust no one right now. Where the hill is the so called SHC? If that's not a joke I'll apologize to them. Your topic could start a lot of posts DOC, but as long as everyone stays calm, this could be interesting
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quote:Originally posted by milliam: If the SEC really doesn't want Rufus being our CEO, then I'm back to not trusting the SEC .
At this point, its going to come down to who acts first...Rufus reaching out to us, John fixing things and getting on with it, or the SEC clearing CSHD or closing CSHD. I think we all just want SOMETHING TO HAPPEN!
I am agreeing with you on both comments.
Honestly, I still do not trust the particular members of the SEC that are involved. IMO they could have handled this better.
They really looked sloppy in the beginning, and if their goal was to shut down this company, they have done a lousy job of it so far. Like trying kill a bear by using too small of a gun, and shooting them in the A$$! It just makes things alot worse, even though the infection could eventually do the job.
While I don't think the SEC did a good job at the beginning,I don't think that the SEC, in any way; wants to shut us down. I think that they don't want Rufus to have anything to do with the company. They see him as an "unprofessional arrogant person" who is being investigated for several reasons involving our company. When the CEO of a company acts the way that Rufus did (Some things being pumping while being the CEO and telling everyone that the price will be $15 on the radio), they react. They aren't as evil as every one thought. He invited the problems that we face today. Just a note here......The FBI can't take computers and filings from company offices without probable cause. A judge has to OK it and he has to be showed a good reason why they should be allowed to take this information.
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quote:Originally posted by Ocqueoc: Doc, My answer would be none of the above.
1.RPH-If he is to be believed,that he thinks he should step away so CSDH can move on with out the sec breathing down our necks.{not his exact quote}
2.Tut, who has proven nothing to us so far{after weeks} and then posts on HSM again.
I will wait for the outcome with the rest of you,but you all know I trust Rufus more. As Jenna stated, we have the right to this.
As far as the Sec. I think they rushed into this and should have waited until they had proof if there was any. Remember Rufus tried to get this halted, but was denied.
I don't know who should run this soap opera , if Rufus is right about stepping aside. Is he the CEO? Is tut the CEO? Too many questions and NO answers . I trust no one right now. Where the hill is the so called SHC? If that's not a joke I'll apologize to them. Your topic could start a lot of posts DOC, but as long as everyone stays calm, this could be interesting
Thanks Ocqueoc .... I love your posts. Forget about the SHC. Portman was one of us and now he can't be found. Very disappointing. I saw a couple of his posts on HSM . He must have forgot who we are. I think that the SHC is a major disappointment to me.
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