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Sorry Cat...that was "before my time"...(wow...I can actually say that about something LOL) Here's the first thread on the stuff...started around June 14th...looks like they start talking about M N 1 around page 10
Member Rated: posted June 14, 2006 09:21 PMJune 14, 2006 21:21 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The news about todays LOI is on the CEOTA website. http://www.ceota.org/
That link now takes you to some sort of "painting" website...
Here's another link to the same website...and a post that used to be on that website...
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posted June 15, 2006 08:34 AMJune 15, 2006 08:34 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This contract was issued by Ceota, I've done my D+D on Ceota and they are for real, this is going to be HUGE!
Ceota has entered into contract with FHAL, this is HUGE for the stock.. and if it doesn't go up short term I'm not worried as this is one of the few long tem hold out there, once they start recovering these logs and selling them off for lumber earnings will bring this baby up.
CEOTA is a non-profit organization based in Fort Worth, Texas that is focused on the preservation and reforestation of the Amazon basin rainforest in Brazil. The Brazilian rainforest represents about 1/3 of all remaining rainforest in the world and generates over 15% of all oxygen for the planet.
The Amazon River is over 4,000 miles long and discharges 14 times the amount of water as the Mississippi River.
With all the deforestation and clearing of land, this natural ecosystem is being detroyed. CEOTA is making a difference and is working to preserve natural land and to, reforest cleared and harvested areas, as well as, the recovery of abandoned logs in the Amazon River.
Assist CEOTA's efforts by making a donation and subscribing to the CEOTA Email List.
We thank you for your time and assistance with the CEOTA projects.
CEOTA has the exclusive license to recover logs from a 100 mile stretch of the Amazon River in Brazil. Experts have determined through sonar analysis and measured navigational hazards there are at least 6,000,000 cubic meters of easily recoverable wood. This wood is very resilient to water and only the outer layers are affected. CEOTA is actively working towards recovery of this wood as experts have determined that for each log recovered there will be an equivalent to 35 living trees that will be saved from destruction thus saving valuable acres of existing rainforest.
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How did Rufus and Mike first make contact. Because IMO, The cat(I don't mean you) was about to be let out of the bag. There was no way they could keep delaying the award of this nonexistent contract. It was definately a ploy to raise the PPS.
If my understanding about Toxic Financing is correct, the financer's short the stock and do whatever they can to make the PPS plummett so that they not only don't have to follow through on additional financing but also can convert their shares at a lower and better position. Almost control a company.
With that in mind, someone like Mike would be desperate to dig out of the hole. The deck is stacked against him. Rufus was the perfect ace in the hole. Put the CEOTA deal on the back burner and make people forget about it. Help the PPS go up, short it and then pull the rug out from under it. Make money on the rise and the fall.
I've always wondered where Mike got the money to buy ECOWOOD. HMM. Interesting coincidence.
Not saying that is what happened but you know the oold saying if the shoe fits.............
GLTA Wally
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quote:Originally posted by got2hvfaith: I am sorry if this is a stupid question, but why are there people fighting over the CEO position of a "scam" company? We are on the "greys". Why not just walk away?
I don't know who to believe, Rufus or John. I may be wrong, but if this company was worth nothing, because it's a scam, than why all the fighting?
This is a sincere question so I would love a sincere answer.
Oh, and Milliam, I am just catching up so I just wanted to let you know that it Japan that bombed Pearl Harbor.
There are only two reasons. First, because you truly believe that the company is worth something and that the prospects for the future are great or You want ot be able to control the information and records of the company in or to hide wrongdoing. Who believes what is a matter for speculation.
GLTA Wally
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im sorry wally..but if u havent heard anything by now...there was fraud they made money, slap on the wrists for them
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quote:Originally posted by trade04: im sorry wally..but if u havent heard anything by now...there was fraud they made money, slap on the wrists for them
I must have missed the pacer report from the courts and the SEC final disposition could you please provide the links so we all can read the WHO WHAT WHERE WHEN and HOW? By the way I think my post was pretty clear as to a fraud being committed and somebody having made money, it's just the who that's in doubt.
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Just when I was going to cash in my CSHD shares for beer money (very cheap beer) this comes up!?
After we got the "E" I knew Rufus was full of Sh*t and I trust him even less now, but I just hate to throw away money with the shares being this cheap. Another conundrum, should I sell for dirt cheap or hope this nightmare will somehow work itself out.
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I can attest...having played soccer for about 36 years of my life (age 6 thru college and some semi pro), that it is actually a very sad but true fact about some of these World Cup Countries. If their country is actually in the final group of 32 that make the World Cup Finals, the country will actually shut down.
It is highly possible that someone is just such a huge “Futbol” fan that they take the entire month off to watch as many games as possible. I used to schedule my work around it. Many people travel to watch the tournament in person. I did this in Italy, 1990 and in the US, 1994.
I was not in this stock just yet so I am not saying I heard the interview...just saying it is very possible Mike was telling the truth.
What country was this guy from?
Matthew
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quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Ok, im sure this is going WAY out on a limb here but does anyone have the original FHAL M N 1 interviews on MP3?
If i recall there were 3 (4 actually but i think its one interview cut in half). The first one was just Mike and he mostly talked about the "Loadsource" trucking software and the purchase of the new trucks. The last 2 were regarding the merger with CVSU. The one I cant seem to find was the second one. Im almost 100% certain that the interview was with Mike and a guy from CEOTA (possibly Gordon Brown). During the interview I recall that either Mike or Randy Mosely had some sort of business relationship with this CEOTA guy for years which basically got them the contract without much hassle.
Ok, the reason i bring this up is now the word on the street is that CEOTA is bogus. I kinda suspected this all along and was actually the first red flag that i blindly ignored. If CEOTA is bogus i wonder who the guy was in the interview on M N 1. I would LOVE to get my hands on that second interview, last i checked it was not available on M N 1's site
Can't help you with the tape but DO remember the interview exactly as you stated. In fact it was just prior to that interview that I bought FHAL. I also remember them stating that the contracts were done but because of the world cup the whole country was on siesta. That it would be done within the next week. I almost sold for a small loss but then the Reverse Merger was PR'ed.
Prior to the merger it was never my intent to hold FHAL. it was strictly a News Momo play that I had planned to exit at 35% profit. Sounded to risky to me. The whole line of them not being able to get anything done because of World Cup was a Red Flag for me. It's the same as saying that no business is conducted in the U.S. during the World Series, March Madness or the Super Bowl week. I found it ridiculous.
GLTA Wally
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$52,000,000 in cash, with a post proxy share count probably much closer to 100,000,000 shares = about .50/share starting point. Still excellent for any penny stock just beginning its business model. IF it ever gets rolling we would see a good share price again.
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quote:Originally posted by thecon00: Just a side note:
$52,000,000 in cash, with a post proxy share count probably much closer to 100,000,000 shares = about .50/share starting point. Still excellent for any penny stock just beginning its business model. IF it ever gets rolling we would see a good share price again.
And thats 1x BV if im not mistaken, where as most trade at a higher multiple like many people originally thought was going to happen with CSHD back before all this SEC stuff started.
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Heya, thanks for the follow ups on CEOTA. I stepped away from the PC a bit.
Anyway, i do feel that maybe things were falling apart for FHAL when Rufus happened by and he was left holding the bag. It supports the feelings people all had when they met Rufus face to face, that he truly appeared to believe in what he was saying. Its very apparent (to me) that the only true winners that have emerged so far are the FHAL officers. IMO they pulled off the sale of a crap shell using folks like William Tay, John Arlitt and Warrior Capital to put all of the pieces together.
If any of this is true im pretty sure most of it would "come out" eventually. And yes, i still believe that when it all comes out Rufus will have no involvement with the original plot.
Good night
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Starting to think the same thing Mr. Catia...starting to think the same thing.
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Heya, thanks for the follow ups on CEOTA. I stepped away from the PC a bit.
Anyway, i do feel that maybe things were falling apart for FHAL when Rufus happened by and he was left holding the bag. It supports the feelings people all had when they met Rufus face to face, that he truly appeared to believe in what he was saying. Its very apparent (to me) that the only true winners that have emerged so far are the FHAL officers. IMO they pulled off the sale of a crap shell using folks like William Tay, John Arlitt and Warrior Capital to put all of the pieces together.
If any of this is true im pretty sure most of it would "come out" eventually. And yes, i still believe that when it all comes out Rufus will have no involvement with the original plot.
Good night
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I'm not sure who that is...have we talked about him? I was asked by someone on HSM to find out who Rufus was reaching out to the night he was on SPR after John took over. They said it was someone named Gordon. I was never able to figure it out for sure.
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Anyone that thinks Rufus was a victim in this whole mess is f'n crazy . Rufus knows damn good and well if the bond ownership is bogus and if he didn't , he should have never opened his big a$$ mouth in the first place. It was his bull$hit that drew people into this mess. He was 100% sure at the time things were as advertised . I never even heard him entertain the thought that the bonds were fake or even that they were not completely owned by CSHD. Infact it was just the opposite and he even went so far as to promise $15.00 a share or CSHD would buy the shares back. Now all he can say is oh well , sue me ???? That doesn't exactly sound like a man wanting to look out for his loyal share holders would stood by the company looking like complete morons through all this crap .
Its time you guys just own up to the fact that we got played and most of us lost between 50% and 95% of our investment. GAME OVER . Move on and hope like hell it can be made on some other stock in 2007.
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St Matt and Jenna? Isn't "Gordon" the man at the TA office?
thesource? I think that "most" if not "all" here have decided to accept the fact that the $ in this is "gone" but there are also alot that are still watching and waiting for the "who done it" part of the show.
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quote:Originally posted by St. Matthew: I'm not sure who that is...have we talked about him? I was asked by someone on HSM to find out who Rufus was reaching out to the night he was on SPR after John took over. They said it was someone named Gordon. I was never able to figure it out for sure.
I'm wondering if they meant Gordon Brown from the "fake" CEOTA?
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quote:Originally posted by thesource: Anyone that thinks Rufus was a victim in this whole mess is f'n crazy . Rufus knows damn good and well if the bond ownership is bogus and if he didn't , he should have never opened his big a$$ mouth in the first place. It was his bull$hit that drew people into this mess. He was 100% sure at the time things were as advertised . I never even heard him entertain the thought that the bonds were fake or even that they were not completely owned by CSHD. Infact it was just the opposite and he even went so far as to promise $15.00 a share or CSHD would buy the shares back. Now all he can say is oh well , sue me ???? That doesn't exactly sound like a man wanting to look out for his loyal share holders would stood by the company looking like complete morons through all this crap .
Its time you guys just own up to the fact that we got played and most of us lost between 50% and 95% of our investment. GAME OVER . Move on and hope like hell it can be made on some other stock in 2007.
For me, I have moved on. I have other sstocks that I trade and follow daily. I am not in the least emotionally attached to the stock but that doesn't mean that I want to bury my head in the sand and not know what happened and how it happened. It continues to be a learning experience. If as you state that Rufus knew all along that the whole thing was bogus then it will change my perception of the scamsters we run into becuase all of them that I have seen turn tail and run when the crap hits the fan. If it's not Rufus then it seems to have been a conspiracy of some sort. Either by individuals from the former companies( I include Furia in this because of the shares that appear in the 10K's from both Furia and FHAL prior to CVSU ever entering the picture) or on an even higher level and having to do with the huge short positions that were held. However it turns out there are some interesting factors at work here.
If you feel cheated and have the need to move on, that's your perogative and I wish you well. Allow the rest of us, for whatever reason we may have to entertain ourselves with learning of just watching and wanting to know the truth.
I see see no one posting on this thread, that still has an interest in CSHD, hurting anyone. No one is pumping like so many of the other stocks that are traded on a daily basis and no one is advocating for anyone to buy this stock.
I find it interesting that there are so many people who state they have no interest yet come back and post that either the thread should be moved or locked altogether or that the people here posting should not. It really amazes me that people take time away from their pet stocks or finding new stocks to make money on. I happen to be able to post on this thread yet research, chart and scan for the other stocks that make up the bulk of my portfolio without any negative affect from posting on this thread.
I wish you Good Luck in all your Trades.
GLTA Wally
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Well said Wally, that goes for you too Repoman, You just look sad everytime you come over here whining about moving boards!
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Thanks for your input "thesource". Very enlightening.
But wait, "who cares who done it"?!?! Are you serious? LOL
So, you dont care who commits the crime as long as SOMEONE pays for it? Whoah, i hope you would admit this to the judge if you are ever picked for jury duty. Id hate to see an innocent person go down for someone elses crime just because you want to get it over with. Posts: 2308 | From: Michigan | Registered: Jun 2006
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quote:Originally posted by fhalyesss: Well said Wally, that goes for you too Repoman, You just look sad everytime you come over here whining about moving boards!
I look sad???
You're the type of guy who plays 3 card monty on a city street and 10 minutes later wonders... "Where's my wallet.."
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"You're the type of guy who plays 3 card monty on a city street and 10 minutes later wonders... "Where's my wallet.."
Repo...... Ouch
Talk to me when the fat lady has sung!!!
She might just be backing off the stage!!!
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No one will probably ever get to the bottom of who did it . Is anyone going to do a damn thing about even if they know for 100% ? IMO , Rufus is the captain of the ship and he's the one responcible for his actions and for all the money lost on this POS . If he was faked out , thats his damn problem . He's the one that claims to be some bond expert and has no problem blowing his horn about how much smarter he is then people that question him .
As I said before , Rufus knew what was going on all along just like he did with BBAN . This was a scam from the get go . His family and friends were selling at the peaks and us morons were scooping them up in hopes of making dollars on pennies . No wonder he could afford to retire after this .
And fhalyesss : The fat lady hasn't sung yet because her pay check bounced before she ever got on stage .
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: LOL... no-one will get to the bottom of it?
right...
there are lots of us working on getting to the bottom of it...
Well hopefully you will have better luck with that than you've had verifying the bonds or even if JA is the damn CEO or not .
Right on source. Who is going to be the ceo of this pos after Ruf gets his proxy vote? How much is 6 extra shares of nothing worth?
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Thanks for keeping our board active source and 6. Hi, Repo,miss your remarks.I'm not joking. You know you like us and most of us like you. Thanks for stop kicking us when we;re down.
{your nice remarks are missed, not the kick us in the !! remarks}
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