quote:Originally posted by Jenna: "NY style" has nothing to do with the market Glassman.....
There are some nuts in this state.....
Guys, I was just kidding......
Joking like the Soprano's
i know Jenna... since i have been relocated to the deep, deep south i have added quite a bit of "southern political history" to my reading list...
the south really is a different country from the north... they just happen to have language and the constitution (more or less) in common....
my real point is that Wall St has always, ALWAYS had participants like this...
Daniel Drew and James Fisk played unreal games with Cornelius Vanderbuilt.
In 1866-1868, Drew engaged in the Erie War, in which Drew conspired along with James Fisk (financier) and Jay Gould to issue fraudulent stock to keep Vanderbilt from gaining control of the Erie Railroad. Vanderbilt sustained heavy losses and conceded control of the railroad to the trio.
In 1870, Fisk and Gould betrayed Drew, manipulating the stock price of the Erie Railroad and causing him to lose $1.5 million. The Panic of 1873 cost him still more, and by 1876, Drew filed for bankruptcy, with debts exceeding a million dollars and no viable assets. He died in 1879, dependent on his son for support.
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Jenna, to answer your question why im still holding if i dont like Arlitt? I personally believe he will be removed from the position before too long so whether or not i like him wont matter. He can go back to pumping stocks all over the net or whatever it is hes qualified for.
Im not trying to be rude to your Dad because of his opinions. Im tired of people openly posting on a public thread that Rufus Paul Harris is a scamster / fraud. When someone posts something like that as "matter of fact" without some sort of documentation to back it up i find it very unsettling and I second guess their motives.
Maybe Repo is right, shut this thread down...its worthless. Its just full of people pretending to be judge and jury on a case they have NO clue about. Ive read through this garbage for weeks now and its full of regurgitated nonsense from people over at HSM that are becoming VERY manipulative IMO.
I dont dislike Doc, hes not the first person ive "called out" when it comes to posting things like "Rufus is nothing but a scamster and will do time" blah blah blah. This is nothing personal against your Dad Jenna, hes just the latest person i find posting "potentially" false information.
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Just in case anyone missed me. This song is dedicated to Humble, Milliam, Glassman and all the others who hold out a glimmer of hope and spend fruitless hours congering up plausible unrealistic scenarios of how this could be anything but dead.
DING DONG! THE STOCK IS DEAD
Ding Dong! The Stock is dead. Which old Stock? The CSHD Stock ! Ding Dong! The Wicked Stock is dead.
Wake up - you sleepy heads, rub your eyes, get out of bed. Wake up, the Wicked Stock is dead.
She's gone where the goblins go, Below - below - below .10. Yo-ho, let's open up and sing and ring the bells out. Ding Dong' the merry-oh, sing it high, sing it low. Let them know The Wicked Stock is dead!
Rufus As Shyster of the CSHD City, In the County of the Land of Oz, I welcome you most regally.
Sabra But we've got to verify it legally, to see
Rufus To see?
Sabra If it
Rufus If she?
Sabra Is immorally, unethic'lly
Arlitt Spiritually, physically
Mike Positively, absolutely
Stockholders Undeniably and reliably Dead
Repo the Coroner As Coroner I must aver, I thoroughly examined it. And CSHD's not only merely dead, CSHD's really most sincerely dead.
Rufus Then this is a day of Reckoning for all the stockholders and their descendants
Sabra If any.
Rufus Yes, let the news be spread to those who still believe The wicked Old Stock at last is dead!
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i'm curious why you think i hold out a glimmer of hope and spend fruitless hours congering up plausible unrealistic scenarios of how this could be anything but dead.
i have to say that i don't think you have ever actually read my posts...
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You my friend are not as well informed as you could be!
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fhalyesss -- you my friend are correct. Educate me because if ever a day goes by that I don't learn something new, it's a wasted day. I await your counsel.
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wv1973 & others....have I missed something? I thought that by us having a proxy vote coming with things to vote on means that life maybe slowly coming back.....If we vote to separate the company from the bonds & Rufus....then doesn't that mean they have complied with the SEC & the company gets to move on? This is how I understood it.....wouldn't this mean the proxy vote would be the begining of the end but also the start of something new?
Correct me if I'm wrong.......
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Oh, this is far from over....did you say over? Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? .
I don't think the stock is dead. Even if it is, the entertainment value is still HUGE!
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Jenna, this whole deal with separating Rufus and the bonds from us is pretty strange to me. I just don't see how we can still be a company without the bonds. I understand that Rufus feels like he's got more assets to move us to, but where in the heck did these assets come from?
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We should vote to have a company share buy back at $7. And take it private. Won't have to hassle with us troublesome shareholders.
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quote:Originally posted by milliam: Jenna, this whole deal with separating Rufus and the bonds from us is pretty strange to me. I just don't see how we can still be a company without the bonds. I understand that Rufus feels like he's got more assets to move us to, but where in the heck did these assets come from?
Milliam, I think they are new assets but perhaps they can't use them until they separate Rufus & the bonds from the company.....then the co. can use them.......Rufus stated he was going to separate from the co with the bonds & continue with the court case as a separate entity....I think if he did do that I would be happy & it would restore a little more respect some respect for him......
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quote:Originally posted by 6digits: We should vote to have a company share buy back at $7. And take it private. Won't have to hassle with us troublesome shareholders.
6- I would be soooo happy if that was one of the proposals on the proxy!!!!
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Jenna- if we can vote for what you are saying, i'll go for it. I wonder who the new CEO would be? Isn't the other issue to have the 6-1. I'm not sure if thats any good. If we start a new asset what will we be worth. I sold 10000 shares today, but I think i'll keep the rest for awhile to see where this goes.
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6- that's what Rufus was saying on SPR- that the proxy vote will be on a few things & one of them would be company projects, & the 6:1, I also think, I'm not sure, I thought that he was implying that we would vote on whether to separate the company from the bonds in order to move on.....
Wally, Tax, I know that you guys were listening too, is that how you understood it?
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Well i think rufas wants to stay with the bonds because they are worth something why would he be willing to move us along and he stay behind??? Just a question...hmmmm mo
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I feel like I should not be passing judgment on anyone until we know all of the facts. I used to really love Rufus, I have sinced changed my opinion of Rufus because of things that were told to me & things that I have read maybe he has done nothing how do I REALLY know, I also have changed my opinions on other people involved with the company but I guess that's not fair.....I'm sorry for some of the comments I have made regarding anyone's character.....
.....until we have all the facts- from Alana Black or any law enforcement personnel I will no longer judge ANYONE in this.....not even Rufus...BUT that doesn't mean I'm going to trust anyone either & that means ANYONE.....(except for all of you guys of course)
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LOL~ who can we trust? This sucks not knowing if the truth is staring us in the face...I think we all would have loved it if the trust hadn't been broken so easily, live and learn .... smile it gets better with time mo
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Hell this is like that rat I keep shooting at, think I need to get a lil closer I hit him but he doesn't fall down ...instead he runs fast to the logs LOL~ maybe my bb gun isn't strong enough..LOL
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Nope says it shoots 480 feet per second and from my window its only about 200 feet from the 2nd story window LOL~ he's quick he's nimble.... wait here comes again !!!hehehe
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Unfortunately here is how I see the cards people are holding so far:
RPH – has admitted friends/family could/did sell shares as this was there prerogative. (They never would sell of course unless instructed to do so.)
MA – has admitted CEOTA was a fake company. That is how this mess started but may be ok if it was the key item that attracted RPH. (Part of his short trap, reverse merge w/ a co. that is already hugely sold short in the market legally or naked. Also implies RPH new he could get the price up, possibly from real assets.
JA - Robert Bogutski’s firm in Plano TX as his suggestion to be involved as a transfer agent starts to show his true colors. I think this is the best evidence so far that he has major strikes against him as well. (Great find Humble!!!)
SHC – just believing what they have been fed. Very likely imo they are being used as pawns w out getting truth either.
Looks like all three above may have already made their $ on this which leaves us with, why do any of them still want to be involved w this or have their names attached to it? Are they all hoping and praying they could look like the good guy, pit more blame on the others, trying to avoid jail? Or are their assets that hold real value to this co.?
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quote:Originally posted by luvforever: Nope says it shoots 480 feet per second and from my window its only about 200 feet from the 2nd story window LOL~ he's quick he's nimble.... wait here comes again !!!hehehe
LOL....
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quote:Originally posted by thecon00: Unfortunately here is how I see the cards people are holding so far:
RPH – has admitted friends/family could/did sell shares as this was there prerogative. (They never would sell of course unless instructed to do so.)
MA – has admitted CEOTA was a fake company. That is how this mess started but may be ok if it was the key item that attracted RPH. (Part of his short trap, reverse merge w/ a co. that is already hugely sold short in the market legally or naked. Also implies RPH new he could get the price up, possibly from real assets.
JA - Robert Bogutski’s firm in Plano TX as his suggestion to be involved as a transfer agent starts to show his true colors. I think this is the best evidence so far that he has major strikes against him as well. (Great find Humble!!!)
SHC – just believing what they have been fed. Very likely imo they are being used as pawns w out getting truth either.
Looks like all three above may have already made their $ on this which leaves us with, why do any of them still want to be involved w this or have their names attached to it? Are they all hoping and praying they could look like the good guy, pit more blame on the others, trying to avoid jail? Or are their assets that hold real value to this co.?
Signature is actually run by Jason Bogutski. I take a small leap in guessing that Jason is Robert's kin based on the proximity, rare name and similar business. Everyone needs to judge that relationship after looking into it for themselves.
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theCon- good post....Do you have to actually be in the SHC to be in that SHC category in your post?....because I feel like I fall into that category...
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quote:Originally posted by 10of13: OT: 10, did your son get home? Yes...he is home...and eating all of my food!!! LOL! My 8 year old cried like crazy when he came through the doors at the airport...they are great buds and they haven't seen each other in over 2 years... But my youngest was a little "unsure"...however..all is good now..and all the other kids are already back to arguing with him...it's as if he was never gone...siblings are very odd...LOL thanks for asking...
Glad to hear your son is home! I have a brother-in-law who just got home from Iraq a couple months ago. It is such a relief when they get home safe. Posts: 105 | From: utah | Registered: Aug 2006
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you've always worn your heart on your sleeve thought all of this and have done so much work for this board that i think anyone who claims your are anything less than sincere is at the very least a poor judge of character. i personally am glad you always tell us what you know and honestly believe. CAT and I honestly felt something was up with CEOTA, FHAL, and MA and our gut led us down the right trail even though we couldn't prove it till now. That’s how we all are discovering info. Your info on JA may still prove right; also your instincts may be right. I defiantly don’t put you in the SHC group just for stating what you believe and i really am not disappointed with anyone who thought the SHC was or is the right move now as long as people are making the right move for them and being honest in telling others what their reasons and motivation is/are. - CON
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Darn it! he got away again that lil peeper can run!!.. he keeps taking the poison too1 heck he took the whole box and all from the garage! I know I am hitting him maybe I ought try a shot gun LOL~...naw too much fun target practice with him while waiting on cshd to do something and if I kill him what would i do to bide my time LOL~
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Jenna n/a means not available did they do a merger or something usually that means you cant touch the shares until whatever is done.... from my experience with it and scottrade...
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