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The impulse control? went out the door when i bought back in...LOL

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Where is the blue shampoo?
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That was another "impulse problem"...LOL [Razz]
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Where is the blue shampoo?



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10, where were you when I was a young vigin? I am now a used and abused old hag....

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3403?
I'm right there with ya! If not ahead of ya...LOL

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R we there yet, huh, huh, R we there yet! Hey Doni, you up for some hungry, hungry, hippos! Hey everyone, just wanted to stop in and say Happy Holidays. Later

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HAS ANYONE NOTICED?

I foolishly never sold on the GAPJ.PK scam just to see how it would play out. It was only a grand by then anyway. I finally got around to comparing the chart of a proven ‘pump and dump’ like GAPJ to CSHD. While not identical they are sadly similar. Something I thought was very interesting was that both these stocks were halted by the SEC (ten days) for different reasons (GAPJ was being mass spam mailed as the ‘pump’). In both cases however, the SEC decided NOT to move in for almost exactly THREE MONTHS! At the very least I would like to see if this is a pattern for future plays like this. Chart maybe you can help me hear? Note: although the early pump or news may have started prior I am referring to the time the SEC moves on these companies after the huge upward price movement until the ten day suspensions were ordered. I remember someone almost predicting it was about time for a halt a day or two before it happened. This would be great to know and be able to half-sell shortly before?

Thanks in advance for whatever experience you long time penny pros have (REPO!)

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You can compare the two one year charts here:


http://***charts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=gapj


*** = big

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It looks to me like GAPJ’s huge pump started beginning of Jan and SEC halted at the flat line the Beginning of April (I should remember this I owned it  )

CSHD’s first real ‘breakout’ stared right in the middle of July even though some of us who were on board then owned FHAL and new of the rumors and lasted until Oct. 24th.

Can anyone give me a timeframe for another play like these or from experience that they know of?

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thecon?
although I understand what it is that you are trying to say...this held...it only fell because of the SEC halt....the other "declines" were due to the timing of sour street and stock lemon...
There wasn't a "dump"...from what all can see...IMO...

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supposedly, there is a "classic" profile that PnD's display...at least, I see peeps referring to such charts, around various boards... I'm not familiar with any such "profile," myself... Now, your intraday, group gropes...that's pretty easy to see on a chart, but on longer, developing plays...I dunno.

My *guess* here is that the chart would be/is unique, due to almost every kind of cluster-puck trading imagineable: big buys, small buys, sales into runs, assorted shorting, assorted covering... in other words, if *there* is a "profile," I'd be surprised if this fits...

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10 of virtue:

I have followed your posts because you have always been very realistic in your view of CSHD.

Yet, The biggest problem I have is the fact that the company refuses to deal with shareholders on a truthful basis.

We need to go to alternate sites to get info. The so called SHC, which I and others that hold a significant portion of this stock, were never given the ability to vote, seem to have taken over and live in the same secrecy that the company does. now have control.

Personally, I'm tired of Cobra's and Phoenix's. I want something more substantial. I want to know that my interests are being looked after.

I'm sorry but at this point in time, I feel that the company is aiding certain individuals to enable them to stop people from selling at a loss to take the tax benefits they are entitled to.

I have a few days to consider my tax situation bt am incline to sell since I do not believe that anything will move this stock within the next 30 days. Of course this is my opinion and take it for what it is worth.

No matter what, 10. I think you are the bomb and will consider you my friend no matter what.

GLTA
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Can anyone pm me or post what all the pm's are about by lp over on the other board. LP says he'll pm anyone who wants to know the upcoming news but everytime I try his box is full.
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quote:
Originally posted by thecon00:
It looks to me like GAPJ’s huge pump started beginning of Jan and SEC halted at the flat line the Beginning of April (I should remember this I owned it  )

CSHD’s first real ‘breakout’ stared right in the middle of July even though some of us who were on board then owned FHAL and new of the rumors and lasted until Oct. 24th.

Can anyone give me a timeframe for another play like these or from experience that they know of?

lol...dime a dozen...new one getting geared up everyday...

btw, I might consider changing my nick, if I were gonna express such interest in PnDs... [Big Grin]

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[Embarrassed] Shucks Wally...thank you...and the same feelings from me to you...(must of been the dreams)
[Wink]
And yes...I agree...WE need something from the COMPANY...Period...I am very tired of "reading into" the posts on other boards...and all the PM's and "hush hush"...BS...The Tax write off type thing? Right now? it is hard to sell...the buy that I did last week? (Because dumb butt me...thought the "hype" for the 18th would come...well it went)I have had a sell sitting at .15 since Monday afternoon...and nothing...
I for one am going to hold now at least until the end of this week...I am hoping that if the SHC website is doing an update in their programming...then maybe there will be something on that...but I won't hold my breath...

Sweet dreams all...
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quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
[Embarrassed] Shucks Wally...thank you...and the same feelings from me to you...(must of been the dreams)
[Wink]
And yes...I agree...WE need something from the COMPANY...Period...I am very tired of "reading into" the posts on other boards...and all the PM's and "hush hush"...BS...The Tax write off type thing? Right now? it is hard to sell...the buy that I did last week? (Because dumb butt me...thought the "hype" for the 18th would come...well it went)I have had a sell sitting at .15 since Monday afternoon...and nothing...
I for one am going to hold now at least until the end of this week...I am hoping that if the SHC website is doing an update in their programming...then maybe there will be something on that...but I won't hold my breath...

Sweet dreams all...
[Wink]

THe dreams of you and betting Babe will keep me through many winters no matter where they may be.

Hey don't get down on yourself for trying to make a few bucks on CSHD while it's on the greys. Heck if the rumor was true you would have done very well. I just think that the POWERS that be are enlisting a little help to prop this up through the end of the year. They know that people will sell in order to minimize the gains of the year.

At this point. I do expect the POWERS that be will give this at least one more good pump before they are done, IF it isn't real. So the shares you bought will reap you some profit.

I look forward to not only dreaming of you but being in the same plays in the future. in my book you are one of the keepers.
GLTA
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10of13 ~ I agree I think selling this next week is going to be tougher than many believe. I do think we will see a significant drop in price if no news is released. People trying anything to sell for the tax benefits, and no one wanting to buy without indication of positive movement.

I shouldn't say "no one" there are some people out ther like myself willing to buy a bit more at these levels.

A bird reminded me the other day of the 30 day rule on the tax write off on capital gain/loss... (meaning you can not buy back the same stock for 30 days following the sale.) I don't plan on selling for tax purposes, but I may be waiting if the demand drives the price down... {hint hint wink wink} [Wink]

Just a glutton for punishment.

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quote:
Originally posted by humble:
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
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Originally posted by Stockstar69:
Here is a good question. If the bonds are real (I feel they are) but were not CSHD's don't cha think the real owners of the bonds would be screaming to:

1) Euroclear to generate a press release to indicate who the real owners are AND are not?

2) The SEC to immiediately stop the claims?

3) Release their own press release indicating ownership?

But where are we? Nowhere, Noone else is claiming ownership of the bonds. The SEC did there thing but has released no information claiming anything to the contrary.

With all the buzz about CSHD don't you think if the owners came forward and said hey ABC owns the bonds, NOT CSHD, all us CSHD information hounds would pick up the press release right away.

I don't mean to sound like a pumper BUT I'm just not ready to write off this company.

My thoughts are with HUMBLE!

As far as I know, there's no agency, web-site, etc that tracks "who doesn't own a bond."

My thoughts are *away* from Humble: last I saw, he was lamenting "emotion" had left the board.

Having a passion to trade is one thing--letting emotion rule your trades is quite another.

"last I saw, he was lamenting "emotion" had left the board."

Thank you for the inadvertent critique. I obviously need to work on my writing as the message you took from my comment was exactly contrary to my intent.

In the interest of clarity, I am compelled to quote myself (very odd thing to have to do).

"Everyone should be encouraged to rethink what they know versus what they feel. No one feels good about being down this far in an investment, especially at a time of year when we all could use a little extra. Until I see proof - not negativity, speculation or insider trading theories - to the contrary, I will wait and not let the absence of information lead to unfounded assumptions about the progress of the company (or the SEC investigation, for that matter) beyond the public eye. "

Please be accurate when discussing other's positions or opinions - or at least in the ballpark.

...In My humble Opinion

oh, humble, humble, humble...

You are a piece of work, I'll give you that, lol... However, I'm quite accurate much of the time, and your "ballpark" comment is way off...am so *inside* the park, would be like a triple-play to deconstruct your post...

Saw something tonight, from Wally (a good poster here), that obtains:

quote:
I'm sorry but at this point in time, I feel that the company is aiding certain individuals to enable them to stop people from selling at a loss to take the tax benefits they are entitled to.
Now, not saying Wally agrees with me in this particular debate, but ya...you're mostly smoke n' mirrors...skillful, persuasive, obfuscating...

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quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by humble:
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
Here is a good question. If the bonds are real (I feel they are) but were not CSHD's don't cha think the real owners of the bonds would be screaming to:

1) Euroclear to generate a press release to indicate who the real owners are AND are not?

2) The SEC to immiediately stop the claims?

3) Release their own press release indicating ownership?

But where are we? Nowhere, Noone else is claiming ownership of the bonds. The SEC did there thing but has released no information claiming anything to the contrary.

With all the buzz about CSHD don't you think if the owners came forward and said hey ABC owns the bonds, NOT CSHD, all us CSHD information hounds would pick up the press release right away.

I don't mean to sound like a pumper BUT I'm just not ready to write off this company.

My thoughts are with HUMBLE!

As far as I know, there's no agency, web-site, etc that tracks "who doesn't own a bond."

My thoughts are *away* from Humble: last I saw, he was lamenting "emotion" had left the board.

Having a passion to trade is one thing--letting emotion rule your trades is quite another.

"last I saw, he was lamenting "emotion" had left the board."

Thank you for the inadvertent critique. I obviously need to work on my writing as the message you took from my comment was exactly contrary to my intent.

In the interest of clarity, I am compelled to quote myself (very odd thing to have to do).

"Everyone should be encouraged to rethink what they know versus what they feel. No one feels good about being down this far in an investment, especially at a time of year when we all could use a little extra. Until I see proof - not negativity, speculation or insider trading theories - to the contrary, I will wait and not let the absence of information lead to unfounded assumptions about the progress of the company (or the SEC investigation, for that matter) beyond the public eye. "

Please be accurate when discussing other's positions or opinions - or at least in the ballpark.

...In My humble Opinion

oh, humble, humble, humble...

You are a piece of work, I'll give you that, lol... However, I'm quite accurate much of the time, and your "ballpark" comment is way off...am so *inside* the park, would be like a triple-play to deconstruct your post...

Saw something tonight, from Wally (a good poster here), that obtains:

quote:
I'm sorry but at this point in time, I feel that the company is aiding certain individuals to enable them to stop people from selling at a loss to take the tax benefits they are entitled to.
Now, not saying Wally agrees with me in this particular debate, but ya...you're mostly smoke n' mirrors...skillful, persuasive, obfuscating...
Who said we have to agree to call a spade a spade.

I just think it is very suspicious that the pumping started when people were selling to take tax losses, am not just talking about CSDH as far as the tax equation it looks very predominate throughout the penny world.

GLTA
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Tex-

I've thought the same thing about "humble" for a long time. I love how he has the whole schtick where he doesn't capitalize "humble" in his "In My humble Opinion" sign off. I've always took it as his subconscious revealing that he's not "humble" at all, in the Webster's sense of the word, but is probably really named "humble" (last name or something). I've found that most people who are ACTUALLY humble, don't need to point it out to others.

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clever guy, for sure...

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I sold my CSHD in my regular account and rebought CSHD with ALL the proceeds in my IRA. So I won't be selling for a tax loss. However, ironically, I will be paying taxes on those gains I made back in the day. Kind of stinks.

[Frown]

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quote:
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I sold my CSHD in my regular account and rebought CSHD with ALL the proceeds in my IRA. So I won't be selling for a tax loss. However, ironically, I will be paying taxes on those gains I made back in the day. Kind of stinks.

[Frown]

Jo

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LOL, I know!

Would you expect anything less from me, Repo?

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What a chilly and snowy morning for those stockholders in the midwest. So why don't we get all of our heart's warm with this wonderful Christmas story:

Twas The Night Before Christmas (Texas Style)

'Twas the night before Christmas, in Texas, you know. Way out on the prairie, without any snow. Asleep in their cabin, were Michael and Sabra and Randy and Ben, too, A dreamin' of Christmas, like me and you.

Not stockings, but boots, at the foot of their bed, For this was Texas, what more need be said, When all of a sudden, from out of the still night, There came such a Rufus, it gave me a fright.

And I saw 'cross the prairie, like a shot from a gun, A loaded up buckboard, come on at a run, The driver was "Geein" and "Hawin", with a will, The horses (not reindeer) he drove with such skill.

"Come on there Scam, Pump, & Dump, to the right, There'll be plenty of travelin' for you all tonight." The driver in Levi's and a shirt that was red, Had a ten-gallon Stetson on top of his head.

As he stepped from the buckboard, he was really a sight, With his beard and moustache, so curly and white from fright. As he burst in the cabin, the children awoke, And were so astonished, that none of them spoke.

And he filled up their boots with CSHD Certs galore, That neither could think of a single thing more. When Mike recovered the use of his jaws, He asked in a whisper, "Are you really Santa Claus?"

"Am I the real Santa? Well, what do you think?" And he smiled as he gave a mysterious wink. Then he leaped in his buckboard to escape angry shareholders, and called back in his drawl, "To all the stockholders I've screwed, Merry Christmas, You-all"

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quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by humble:
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
Here is a good question. If the bonds are real (I feel they are) but were not CSHD's don't cha think the real owners of the bonds would be screaming to:

1) Euroclear to generate a press release to indicate who the real owners are AND are not?

2) The SEC to immiediately stop the claims?

3) Release their own press release indicating ownership?

But where are we? Nowhere, Noone else is claiming ownership of the bonds. The SEC did there thing but has released no information claiming anything to the contrary.

With all the buzz about CSHD don't you think if the owners came forward and said hey ABC owns the bonds, NOT CSHD, all us CSHD information hounds would pick up the press release right away.

I don't mean to sound like a pumper BUT I'm just not ready to write off this company.

My thoughts are with HUMBLE!

As far as I know, there's no agency, web-site, etc that tracks "who doesn't own a bond."

My thoughts are *away* from Humble: last I saw, he was lamenting "emotion" had left the board.

Having a passion to trade is one thing--letting emotion rule your trades is quite another.

"last I saw, he was lamenting "emotion" had left the board."

Thank you for the inadvertent critique. I obviously need to work on my writing as the message you took from my comment was exactly contrary to my intent.

In the interest of clarity, I am compelled to quote myself (very odd thing to have to do).

"Everyone should be encouraged to rethink what they know versus what they feel. No one feels good about being down this far in an investment, especially at a time of year when we all could use a little extra. Until I see proof - not negativity, speculation or insider trading theories - to the contrary, I will wait and not let the absence of information lead to unfounded assumptions about the progress of the company (or the SEC investigation, for that matter) beyond the public eye. "

Please be accurate when discussing other's positions or opinions - or at least in the ballpark.

...In My humble Opinion

oh, humble, humble, humble...

You are a piece of work, I'll give you that, lol... However, I'm quite accurate much of the time, and your "ballpark" comment is way off...am so *inside* the park, would be like a triple-play to deconstruct your post...

Saw something tonight, from Wally (a good poster here), that obtains:

quote:
I'm sorry but at this point in time, I feel that the company is aiding certain individuals to enable them to stop people from selling at a loss to take the tax benefits they are entitled to.
Now, not saying Wally agrees with me in this particular debate, but ya...you're mostly smoke n' mirrors...skillful, persuasive, obfuscating...
Well I disagree with your thinking here.

Humble has brought up valid points of interest along the way.

Show me the smoke and mirrors....

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Without any proof whatsoever, a new conspiracy has emerged: CSHD might be encouraging some people to artificially support the price of this stock while others sell for a tax writeoff.

In the interest of putting some reality into the latest conspiracy theory, I will go on record as saying that I have no contact whatsoever with anyone involved with CSHD and I know if no other investors involved in this plot. Additionally, I will not be selling any of my position for a tax benefit.

I try to limit my input to two varieties:

1) Post information that may be relevant to this company, and

2) Offer a counterpoint to the long strings of negativity due to no real information presenting itself, negativity that, ironically, may very well be influencing shareholders to take action based solely on the mood and opinion of others.

Sometimes boredom, anger and impatience gets the better of us but I hope we can keep the debate focused on what we know and verifiable information that may help shed some light on where CSHD is and might be going.

... In My humble Opinion

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WV- Once again very clever!!! I enjoy these Christmas Carols....It's nice to chuckle first thing in the morning!!! [Wink]

Humble- Good Morning....Always nice hearing from you.... [Big Grin]

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Saw something tonight, from Wally (a good poster here), that obtains:

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I'm sorry but at this point in time, I feel that the company is aiding certain individuals to enable them to stop people from selling at a loss to take the tax benefits they are entitled to.
Now, not saying Wally agrees with me in this particular debate, but ya...you're mostly smoke n' mirrors...skillful, persuasive, obfuscating... [/qb][/QUOTE]Who said we have to agree to call a spade a spade.

I just think it is very suspicious that the pumping started when people were selling to take tax losses, am not just talking about CSDH as far as the tax equation it looks very predominate throughout the penny world.

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Wally [/QB][/QUOTE]

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I'm sorry but I don't a "conspiracy theory" here. I see one person saying "I feel". You can get feeling w/o backup; you can even try to tie this company to carbon credits and ecowood w/o backup -- it's ok, a very long stretch, but ok. A person can get a gut feeling, an uneasiness if you will, w/o trying to promote a conspiracy theory.

If this board stuck to facts, it would recognize CEOs with questionable histories; promises made and promises broken; a pitiful SHC (which could be an example of smoke and mirrors); improper or late filings; SEC involvement; after nearly two months no definite proof of bond ownership or Duestche bank contract, etc.

If you can have pipedreams about carbon credits, Ecowood, etc., you surely should be allowed to have "bad feelings" about this one as well. IMO

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Humble ~ I don't think the recent amount of pumping has anything to do with supporting the price for a sell-off and Tax relief. Honestly you get more relief the more you lose, so supporting the price does very little other than give a bit of predictability in the unpredictable grey market.

No I think it may be a concerted effort to keep the price green for some. You know those people that bought from 0.04 to 0.14... I missed that purchase by two days. (Didn't have the funds in my margin, and had to let them settle the full three days. [Frown] ) I know if I bought an extreemly large number in at a price close to what the current price is... and I didn't cash out before the suspension. I would be acting like a few posters I have heard recently.

It is hard sometimes to see where other peoples motivation begins and ends. But we can't forget that many early investors laughed really hard at the bashers early on saying things similar to, "I got my shares for less than 0.20 average. It would have to drop down to there before I would even begin to sweat." I think the recent wave has been just that. The sweating has begun for a few of the original believers. People that saw thousands and possibly millions on the way up, now holding and staring their original purchase price right in the eye.

Just my humble opinion... [Big Grin]

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Well comon SHC! Let's see that new website!

(Disclaimer: Pure Speculation/ I don't know if it will be a new improved web site, just know that they need more than what they have right now.)

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People are noting that the http://www.cvsu.us site has changed.

All I notice is that the Quote Media service (just like the one on the OTCBB site) which was a paid service is gone. and the site runs horendously slow for some reason.

I do not think the change to the site was intentional. they may be having problems with their Quote Media service link.

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That stuff seems to be working for me... [Confused]

It is also working at speed...no lag or anything...

Although I can say that quotemedia hasn't been updated since Oct 31, according to the profile section...

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It does seem to be back... still loading pretty slowly (for me)... Stupid Quote Media service... it will tank a site's response times.

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