If it is a valid cease and desist and it is actually Rufus on IHUB, then Rufus saying it is invalid without going to court is a blatant lie on his part, he would know they already went to court.
If it is an imposter on IHUB then he would be liable if people lost money after buying it.
If it is an invalid cease and desist then OurStreet is liable for calling it a cease and desist, plus the people who sent it to them.
quote:Originally posted by JohnnyRotten: good point sceptor,
My thinking right now is liability.
If it is a valid cease and desist and it is actually Rufus on IHUB, then Rufus saying it is invalid without going to court is a blatant lie on his part, he would know they already went to court.
If it is an imposter on IHUB then he would be liable if people lost money after buying it.
If it is an invalid cease and desist then OurStreet is liable for calling it a cease and desist, plus the people who sent it to them.
Someone is headed for trouble imo.
LOL we knew this from the very beginning... Rufus has been very cocky...
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Remember when Richard from QBID went on I-Hub. This reminds me of this.
i really don't...
i've only played a few pinksheets and never held any for very long...
my "take" on this play from day one is that Rufus has figured out a new angle.. it all adds up on paper..making it work in real life is the challenge... i have been watching the SHO list carefully since the very first day the SHO was posted waht? 2 years ago now?
we know NITE does it and they have some rights to use NSing but not to manipulate or trade, just to create liquidity...
my SUSPICIONS for quite awhile have been that the on-line brokers use it too... as a sort of a slush fund... think of it like your local bookie in Philly who doesn't "lay-off" all his bets against the "skins" with the bookie in DC? he's counting on Philly losin... only problem is philly has a bad day and he's caught with all those betting slips?
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quote:Originally posted by fhalyesss: Why do they have to record this info Sceptor?? What can they use it for when this is all over?
P.S Tex check your PM
lost money. If you attempt to buy 10000 shares at a dollar and are refused and the pps resets to $54, I would be suing the crap out of them.
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quote:Originally posted by JohnnyRotten: good point sceptor,
My thinking right now is liability.
If it is a valid cease and desist and it is actually Rufus on IHUB, then Rufus saying it is invalid without going to court is a blatant lie on his part, he would know they already went to court.
If it is an imposter on IHUB then he would be liable if people lost money after buying it.
If it is an invalid cease and desist then OurStreet is liable for calling it a cease and desist, plus the people who sent it to them.
Someone is headed for trouble imo.
read dogs last post just before yours. Rufus stated they would have had to go to court to get a C&D and dog confirmed it. Is there really even the slightest possibility that you would believe our-street? Seriously?
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: i really don't...
i've only played a few pinksheets and never held any for very long...
He went on I-Hub a few times last year. This was back when I was warning folks what was going on with ole Frankie the Fraudster. I never owned that scam for more than a few days.
Remember when I got banned last year from Allstocks for bringing a little sense to the QBID micro thread. Trying to warn folks is the unpopular thing to do, but I feel it is the right thing to do.
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one afternoon I leave you guys alone for and all hell breaks loose . Dog,Chart,Tax,Glass,Babe,10,Crab. Can any of you guys give me a synopsis of what's going on. Wish I could read through the posts but got kids crying and wife yelling. Much appreciated. It looks like it's some good news.
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Trying to warn folks is the unpopular thing to do, but I feel it is the right thing to do.
"warning" people without solid evidence is no better than "pumping" without evidence...
you know that Allstocks fully intends to be DIFFERENT from ragging bull and iHub...
qbid and Cmkx were both priced at .00XXX... not nearly this high..
have you called the transfer agent here? ever? that's REAL DD...
the float is not rising significantly, CSHD is not in dilution pahse right now...
qbid and cmk? were pinksheets that don't file SEC filings and they were obviously diluting... anybody could see it on the charts.. all they had to do was look.. pointing at a pinksheet and calling a foul is not the same as calling an OTCBB a fraud...
i have pointed this out dozens of time here and will continue to point it out..
SEC filings can be lies, but there is absolutely NO OTHER more credible source of information... it's that simple.. post what you can demonstrate...
charts are pretty solid evidence...
everybody here REALLY is trying to figure out what's really going on..
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quote:Originally posted by JohnnyRotten: good point sceptor,
My thinking right now is liability.
If it is a valid cease and desist and it is actually Rufus on IHUB, then Rufus saying it is invalid without going to court is a blatant lie on his part, he would know they already went to court.
If it is an imposter on IHUB then he would be liable if people lost money after buying it.
If it is an invalid cease and desist then OurStreet is liable for calling it a cease and desist, plus the people who sent it to them.
Someone is headed for trouble imo.
read dogs last post just before yours. Rufus stated they would have had to go to court to get a C&D and dog confirmed it. Is there really even the slightest possibility that you would believe our-street? Seriously?
Someone posted a link back in this thread about "not having to go to court" and certain counties, Cities, jurisdictions, allow for C/D...BUT...having "serevice" IS needed...it MUST be certified letter or a "paid" individiual/ company that is able to verify that "service" was made...an email? Service is not verified...
If there is still a question as to the "validilty" of the C/D order?...why is the number at the top of the "order" an incorrect number? Why did the very same "domain name" send another email to ourstreet saying...do not "publish" because CSHD has "corrected" their error?...the C/D thing is an attempt to bring the PPS down...by "someone"...Why did our street pay to "release" the info of the alleged C/D order? NO...sorry the thing is a hoax....IMO...
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: SEC filings can be lies, but there is absolutely NO OTHER more credible source of information... it's that simple.. post what you can demonstrate... cahrts are pretty solid evidence... everybody here REALLY is trying to figure out what's really going on..
Absolutely, SEC filings can be truth and lies all tied together.
I have noticed that FHAL/CSHD has been leaving ways out or loopholes in their SEC filing statements and PR's. This is what leads to my main reasons for skepticism of this.
Some of the things previously mentioned by myself and others here on today's PR alone is just one example.
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: SEC filings can be lies, but there is absolutely NO OTHER more credible source of information... it's that simple.. post what you can demonstrate... cahrts are pretty solid evidence... everybody here REALLY is trying to figure out what's really going on..
Absolutely, SEC filings can be truth and lies all tied together.
I have noticed that FHAL/CSHD has been leaving ways out or loopholes in their SEC filing statements and PR's. This is what leads to my main reasons for skepticism of this.
Some of the things previously mentioned by myself and others here on today's PR alone is just one example.
Tell us in depth of these loophholes
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quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: one afternoon I leave you guys alone for and all hell breaks loose . Dog,Chart,Tax,Glass,Babe,10,Crab. Can any of you guys give me a synopsis of what's going on. Wish I could read through the posts but got kids crying and wife yelling. Much appreciated. It looks like it's some good news.
http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/fetchFilingFrameset.aspx?FilingID=4646222&Ty pe=HTML Ryan...CSHD released a pr and filed an 8K that stated that Sept 13 the merger would be complete... Looks like a light at the end of the tunnel.. Also Ameritrade will not let you buy CSHD but they will wave the fees if you want to sell it...LOL...imagine that...
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quote: Someone posted a link back in this thread about "not having to go to court" and certain counties, Cities, jurisdictions, allow for C/D...BUT...having "serevice" IS needed...it MUST be certified letter or a "paid" individiual/ company that is able to verify that "service" was made...an email? Service is not verified...
The poster claiming to be Rufus used the wording "Federal Court", if the C&D was from a local court or State, he may be contending it is invalid.
The number on the e-mail could be a typo?
I wonder if there is a way to search court docets on the internet?
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Everyone should be ready for next week; here is the part of today's release that you should pay attention to:
"At that time the corporation will receive the Non-Objecting Beneficial Owners (NOBO) from ADP Automatic Data Processing Inc. located at 51 Mercedes Way Edgewood, NY 11717 allowing the conclusion of the FHAL shareholder list for the completion of the Audited 10-K."
allowing the CONCLUSION (meaning this is done) of the FHAL shareholder list for the COMPLETION (the final step in the process, which as I mentioned is done) of the AUDITED (already 'Audited' and ready to go)10-K
Read in-between the lines. This is going to happen next week. My only concern is how long will the pps stay at the reset level? Hopefully long enough for all of us to sell some shares and make some REAL money on this craziness!
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quote: Someone posted a link back in this thread about "not having to go to court" and certain counties, Cities, jurisdictions, allow for C/D...BUT...having "serevice" IS needed...it MUST be certified letter or a "paid" individiual/ company that is able to verify that "service" was made...an email? Service is not verified...
The poster claiming to be Rufus used the wording "Federal Court", if the C&D was from a local court or State, he may be contending it is invalid.
The number on the e-mail could be a typo?
I wonder if there is a way to search court docets on the internet?
the letter came from ourstreet.. no court papers have been presented... if anything went to court? it hasn't been announced
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actually it was the hostility to your sensible questions about QBID at that time last year that made me dig deeper, and provoked me to sell and salvage part of my investment. thankfully.
so your sense was not lost
and today at your suggestion i called TDAm and i have to disagree with what they told you - the rep was very clear that there was no evidence of 'fraud' that it was a 'TDA Business Decision for which no reason was given"
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: i really don't...
i've only played a few pinksheets and never held any for very long...
He went on I-Hub a few times last year. This was back when I was warning folks what was going on with ole Frankie the Fraudster. I never owned that scam for more than a few days.
Remember when I got banned last year from Allstocks for bringing a little sense to the QBID micro thread. Trying to warn folks is the unpopular thing to do, but I feel it is the right thing to do.
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"The number on the e-mail could be a typo?" A typo on a "C/D" order? For the header...the info on the company? No, it is actually an "old phone" number that Mr.Canady had back in '05
Do you not find it odd that the "domain name" of this "new email address" was "created" on August 28th (might be the 26th)?
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the 26th. forget about when it was registered tho.
what i find weird is that they immediately set up & began listing their new email in business correspondance.
how does one print stationary that quickly?
and the email is in use before a website is even set up.
it just isnt done that way, and for those reasons i am convinced that the website & letter were forgeries.
they could not register their website, set up their email, print their biz stationary, draft and finalize a legal letter, send it and have it received in 5 days.
NOT POSSIBLE. ~BB
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: "The number on the e-mail could be a typo?" A typo on a "C/D" order? For the header...the info on the company? No, it is actually an "old phone" number that Mr.Canady had back in '05
Do you not find it odd that the "domain name" of this "new email address" was "created" on August 28th (might be the 26th)?
Here is why I have a hard time following your reasoning. I could see it as a fraud because of the mixed up numbers, etc, but one problem from the ourstreet pr,
quote: According to an article in the New York Post, a spokesperson for the Fund acknowledged the order and confirmed that the relationship between Conversion and the Fund is over. An email received by Our-Street.com from the Fund further indicates that Mr. Harris is aware of the situation and is attempting to make amends to the Fund.
The writer of the article supposedly confirmed it with the fund.
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and BB let's not forget about the day that "ourstreet" paid to have that PR sent out... It was around 10:50 or so and the PPS was leveling off...actually climbing...and low and behold "we" all started getting the "response" to our emails:
Please be advised that the Foundation has disengaged with Conversion Solutions as of August 31, 2006 based on the appearance of potential fraud on the part CSHD. As we have had to endure the woes and ill intent of others who have brought us into their problems in the past, (please follow link: http://www.sos.mo.gov/securities/orders/AP-06-16.asp) we have no desire to do so in this matter. The Officers of Conversions Solutions did not follow protocol as agreed upon and as a result, it was our interpretation that they were attempting to defraud our organization. We have repeatedly requested explanations and clarifications from CSHD to no avail. That left us no other choice but to issue the Cease and Desist Order. Please be advised, however, that we do not know how Mr. Miles received this letter as it was deemed confidential.
Best regards
Yeah...they aren't going to go through so many "woes" for a few million?
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Johnny...go read the article...the man couldn't even "spell" the name of the company !!! Why did the NY P.O.S. AND our street put out the same info at the same time? And how did the NY P.O.S. verify when the number was incorrect, how did he get in touch with them? Lots of questions....
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quote:Originally posted by JohnnyRotten: 10 of 13,
Here is why I have a hard time following your reasoning. I could see it as a fraud because of the mixed up numbers, etc, but one problem from the ourstreet pr,
quote: According to an article in the New York Post, a spokesperson for the Fund acknowledged the order and confirmed that the relationship between Conversion and the Fund is over. An email received by Our-Street.com from the Fund further indicates that Mr. Harris is aware of the situation and is attempting to make amends to the Fund.
The writer of the article supposedly confirmed it with the fund.
surely you have seen the article implicating boyd in a scheme to manipulate the market. He's no angel, nor is he a trustworthy source.
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