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quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Can anyone explain this part of the pr?

Non-Objecting Beneficial Owners (NOBO)

I thought that question was answered a few pages back....??
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I don't think it is Rufas posting on Ihub...
If you look on cvsu.us which is the official website, they give his cell as his contact...
So if he is giving his cell # as a point of contact on his website, why wouldn't he post it on his Ihub signature?
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Rufus Paul Harris
Chief Executive Officer
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
770-420-8270
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See what I mean, the number listed in his signature is the number to his office and not his cell... JMO, but I seriously doubt it's Rufas..

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OMG.... Catia? what are you asking for?

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Glass, what i find really unusual, is that i am the only FURIA/FHAL/CVSU/CSHD shareholder that ever got sent an email from my broker that told me that i was getting $7.21 for each share, and that it was mandartory!

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
OMG.... Catia? what are you asking for?

Im asking him to STOP posting on IHUB because its making me VERRRRRY nervous. I probably shouldnt have asked him to come here, and honestly i dont really WANT him to post here....i kinda want him to READ here, as opposed to IHUB.

But, ok so the number in his IHUB sig isnt his cell and some lady answers. Has anyone verified that the number IS conversion solutions or possibly a phony? Did i just leave a lengthy voicemail for some scammer? Bah. Maybe ill call his cell later too.

Sorry Glass, im not trying to add to the chaos. Im just trying to sway him from playing with kids when there are adults over here.

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quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Can anyone explain this part of the pr?

Non-Objecting Beneficial Owners (NOBO)

I thought that question was answered a few pages back....??
I read it all on pg 59 but it is a bunch a legal terms that still leave me with questions. I was hoping someone could translate it, so a dummy like me could understand it better.

Is it just a list of all shareholders??

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quote:
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
Glass, what i find really unusual, is that i am the only FURIA/FHAL/CVSU/CSHD shareholder that ever got sent an email from my broker that told me that i was getting $7.21 for each share, and that it was mandartory!

you have a full-servvice broker i assume?

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Which brings up my next question because for some reason i can not find it....whats his email address again? LOL

I know it was simple and kinda obvious but ive forgotten regardless.

Ok, im driving home, i wont be back for an hour or so.

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quote:
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Originally posted by glassman:
OMG.... Catia? what are you asking for?

Im asking him to STOP posting on IHUB because its making me VERRRRRY nervous. I probably shouldnt have asked him to come here, and honestly i dont really WANT him to post here....i kinda want him to READ here, as opposed to IHUB.

But, ok so the number in his IHUB sig isnt his cell and some lady answers. Has anyone verified that the number IS conversion solutions or possibly a phony? Did i just leave a lengthy voicemail for some scammer? Bah. Maybe ill call his cell later too.

Sorry Glass, im not trying to add to the chaos. Im just trying to sway him from playing with kids when there are adults over here.

I don't think it is Rufas posting on Ihub...
If you look on cvsu.us which is the official website, they give his cell as his contact...
So if he is giving his cell # as a point of contact on his website, why wouldn't he post it on his Ihub signature?
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GODSPEED shareholders
Rufus Paul Harris
Chief Executive Officer
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
770-420-8270
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See what I mean, the number listed in his signature is the number to his office and not his cell... JMO, but I seriously doubt it's Rufas..

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NOBOs and OBOs

Under NI 54-101, there are two types of beneficial owners: (1) non-objecting beneficial owners (“NOBOs”), who are beneficial owners of securities who have instructed their intermediary that they do not object to the intermediary disclosing ownership information about them for the purposes of NI 54-101; and (2) objecting beneficial owners (“OBOs”), beneficial owners who object to the intermediary providing such information. “Intermediaries” are generally brokerage firms who hold securities in accounts for their clients.


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I just re listened to the Paltalk interview from August 10th. rufas does mention a change in auditor and that it would be in a SEC filing. At the time he thought it was going to be part of the 10K... which it probably still will be included. He did not mention the name, and I think it was another interview he mentioned the Auditor was in Michigan.

just FYI

Have a good weekend.

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This was posted on IHUB

http://knobias.10kwizard.com/filing.php?repo=tenk&ipage=4195181&doc=1&total=&bac k=2&g=&attach=on

Reason Auditor quit in May, not sure if the announcement today was to replace them.

It wasn't an accounting disagreement but a stock disagreement so todays 8K could say there was no accounting disagreement.

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Yeah Glass , my Broker is Td Waterhouse the Pre- TD Amitrade here in the UK.

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quote:
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
Yeah Glass , my Broker is Td Waterhouse the Pre- TD Amitrade here in the UK.

did you ask them how the info was generated?
your broker should be able to explain it...
and if/when he/shedoes? we would love to hear from you [Wink]

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Thanks again glassmas... I guess I'm the only dumbazz that doesn't understand what it means.. and what it means for the reset. Oh well thanks anyway.
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i havent read all the pages i missed, but it hasnt sunk in for me either [Confused]


quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Thanks again glassmas... I guess I'm the only dumbazz that doesn't understand what it means.. and what it means for the reset. Oh well thanks anyway.


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The 8 K has last name Hall from Dallas,

the earlier resignation is,

On May 18, 2006 Murrell, Hall, McIntosh & Co., PLLP, the auditors

of Rockwall, TX.


Says it violated a loan covenant.

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quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
The 8 K has last name Hall from Dallas,

the earlier resignation is,

On May 18, 2006 Murrell, Hall, McIntosh & Co., PLLP, the auditors

of Rockwall, TX.


Says it violated a loan covenant.

yeah, i'm trying to figure out if it's the same Hall...

we know the FHAL guys deliberately defaulted on at least one financing agreemnet by BUYING back thier own shares on the open market...

they announced it right in their annual (10K) filing...

it was obviously, deliberately done to void the agreement...
i've seen this type of thing done on timberland deals to avoid estate taxes....

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The offical line was that it was sent to them from the company. TD Then queried it with the company and they retracted it. My take on it was that it was going to be the original reset price, but other thing since fell in to place to go with the $15 p/s.
Thats why i have held since july and will to the bitter end.

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I am wondering if both bonds are from the same group. A cease and desist from one wouldn't negate the other. Maybe not 54$ pps just 39$ pps type thing.

I am confused.

If you believe the guy claiming to be Rufus he is saying the deal was signed and submitted to the sec and the Cease and Desist is not valid without first going to court. If it is valid on the day of the merger it will open at 54$ then they probably go to court and it falls to 0.

Nice pump and dump.

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i think this stock is proof that too many people have begun to believe the bulletin boards constitute a viable news service...

even a PR is worthless until it is filed as an 8K...

once an 8K is filed? it could still be a lie...
but there is no other system we have of verifying credibility in the stock market...

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Havent had a chance to get on all day today. Can anyone sum up whats happened and what the pr is all about? Haven't had a chance to read it yet.
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It is proof you need a lawyer just to trade stocks.

I would imagine most professional traders have one.

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No I don't believe that. it's just everyone is trying to figure the truth and the lies and are trying so hard to find it that it becomes such as a soap opera! Really i've been following allstocks since 2002 and this is the best board I have come across, honest finally you folks i've been peeking in on after i bought fhal and decided id join in once in awhile and it's been enjoyable to say the least.... glta [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
It is proof you need a lawyer just to trade stocks.

I would imagine most professional traders have one.

it's getting that way JR... you sold on the ourstreet news?

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
Glass, what i find really unusual, is that i am the only FURIA/FHAL/CVSU/CSHD shareholder that ever got sent an email from my broker that told me that i was getting $7.21 for each share, and that it was mandartory!

you have a full-servvice broker i assume?
be cool to see that e-mail, with header info...

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I think we should form an all stocks group, hire a lawyer on retainer who can give us legal advice. Say 100 people chip in 100 dollars to pay a lawyer when we have questions.

This could open wednesday at 54$ so they can dilute before it hits court. If you get out as I did you lose big time, or if it falls through you lose if you are in it.

Truth is they are making you gamble without any real answers.


My personal opinion is the bonds are valid til a company retraction takes place in an official document, but I have no legal advisor to confirm that. Is a Cease and desist legally binding without first going to court. Probably protects the bond issuer without negating the immediate impact.

This sucks. What to do?

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quote:
it's getting that way JR... you sold on the ourstreet news?
Yes, I got the news over the phone from my wife and wasn't in a position to follow it all day, I bought at 1.00 and it had fallen to .82 and I had no way of knowing how far it would fall. I took the safe road and sold.

The same company also warned people about CMKX was my recollection.

It wasn't a ton of money but its the principle.

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JR, an interesting point since you bring up CMKX... and let me mention QBID as well...

Ameritrade didn't issue any alerts or special provisions regarding my buying of those pos stox.

so all this garbage about not being able to buy CSHD, i dont think it is my interests they have in mind.

cuz they sure werent around protecting me from getting whooped in the past.

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
comeon peas, do you think they would admit it?

i'm just trying to keep this board from turning into ihub...

have you gone over there lately?

Today briefly, Rufas wouldn't respond to direct questions.

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""The Official Merger date has been set for Wednesday, September 13, 2006 atthe close of the trading day. At that time.... allowing the conclusion of the FHAL shareholder list for the completion of the Audited 10-K.""

This doesn't actually say the 10k will be Thursday or the reset. We could still be looking at end of month - no? I HOPE someone can correct me on this.

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I use ameritrade and if they won't sell it I can't get back in. Ameritrade may be protecting friends or clients. Hard to say which.

I know with CMKX some brokers did restrict trading but not Ameritrade.

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Please understand.... a cease and decist order is a court-approved order. It is drafted by lawyers for a client. The lawyers then have a show cause hearing with a judge. The judge hears their argument and would have to approve the order. (a.k.a. "going to court"). That legal document is filed with the court, then a judge approved order is issued and served via legal means.... certified mail or directly from attorney (court officer).

I have had cease and decist orders served to me in the past, and this was the process explained to me by my attorney. I'm calling him right now for confirmation.

So in a way... Rufus is correct. A cease and decist order cannot be issued without going to court. I also doubt the short time frame would have allowed for the process to really be completed if initiated the next day after the last 8k announced the "irrevocable trust".

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quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
JR, an interesting point since you bring up CMKX... and let me mention QBID as well...

Ameritrade didn't issue any alerts or special provisions regarding my buying of those pos stox.

so all this garbage about not being able to buy CSHD, i dont think it is my interests they have in mind.

cuz they sure werent around protecting me from getting whooped in the past.

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You need to put an order in to buy so you can capture the image of the denial for later.
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quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
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Originally posted by glassman:
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Originally posted by fhalyesss:
Glass, what i find really unusual, is that i am the only FURIA/FHAL/CVSU/CSHD shareholder that ever got sent an email from my broker that told me that i was getting $7.21 for each share, and that it was mandartory!

you have a full-servvice broker i assume?
be cool to see that e-mail, with header info...
No Doubt.

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