quote:Originally posted by JohnnyRotten: I am speculating, if Our street was smearing Canady the week before he had a reason. If Canady decided to issue a cease and decist he had a reason why. The post, the foundation, and our street seem to have some connection.
Why does someone living in a foreign country work overtime to smear people here. How does he get paid. Who pays him? Is he a paid arm for shorters? Does he just care about the American public? Are his revenues subscription based?
I honestly don't get all this, except to say everyone wants to make money and some at the expense of others.
your speculations are a week late. you should go back a week and read posts, it's been fully disected.
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even if the foundation did not issue the C&D and it was totally fraudulant, the writer and the post had reasons for saying they confirmed it with the foundation.
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quote:Originally posted by JohnnyRotten: I am speculating, if Our street was smearing Canady the week before he had a reason. If Canady decided to issue a cease and decist he had a reason why. The post, the foundation, and our street seem to have some connection.
Why does someone living in a foreign country work overtime to smear people here. How does he get paid. Who pays him? Is he a paid arm for shorters? Does he just care about the American public? Are his revenues subscription based?
I honestly don't get all this, except to say everyone wants to make money and some at the expense of others.
we are all asking the same questions JR...
ourstreet is still posting crap at ihub...
so are halfadozen others... serfodm has been posting negative stuff for 16-20 hrs a day nonstop for aweek over there..
its downright strange...
we've had quite a few people banned right here too...
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quote:Originally posted by JohnnyRotten: Why does someone living in a foreign country work overtime to smear people here. How does he get paid. Who pays him? Is he a paid arm for shorters? Does he just care about the American public? Are his revenues subscription based?
interesting:
Street's not subscription-revenue based. the 'subscribe' link on Street didnt work, and i wanted a copy of his email header, so i emailed him
i asked 'your subscribe link doesnt work how can i subscribe?'
he emailed back 'I hadn’t decided if I wanted to do that or not but just activated it.. please try now.. and thanks…'
hence i got the email header.
irony: there is a website that exposes supposed "scams" in the model industry. it is called "easy background check" many in the model industry say it is a guy outside the US who takes payments from one competitor in the fashion biz to slander another.
the contact for Oregon Host is accused of Corporate Cybersmear
and oregon's contact, Leslie French's current website is for a radio station that covers Modeling Scams and Finance Scams. (i know, coming from me this is really weird)
tie all that together with Roddy Boyd, Oregon and one of the cybersmear cases, Nanopierce Technologies: From 'SHORTS' NEMESIS DUMPED A CLIENT'S SHARES' By RODDY BOYD http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/08/344847.shtml
Portland, Ore., resident Leslie French is the man behind "debin23," according to the lawsuit filed recently by Sensient, which produces colors, flavors and fragrances.
The lawsuit claims that French, as debin23, last October launched a "smear campaign" aimed at Sensient by posting libelous messages on Yahoo! Inc.'s Internet message board. The lawsuit says French launched the campaign "for his own gain" but doesn't elaborate.
"French has made false statements that assail (Sensient's) financial position and business methods, and has accused (Sensient) of tortious and criminal acts as well as mismanagement," the lawsuit says..."
anywayz... there's more to read there... i just find the server connection coincidental. does anyone have a name behind OurStreet aside from Timothy Miles?
and btw, French has won one lawsuit, and it was ruled that he can say anything he wants on the chat boards.
French says "No corporate executive worth his salt would dare be caught dead chasing after a few Internet posters."
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Still holding that 50 RSI nicely. 51.83 now. IMO it'll hold maybe bounce off the 60 again and hang around like history has shown. Aroon trying to consolidate a little more before beginning the uptrend.
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I ran a sports website once and used an oversees company because of unlimited bandwidth.
Having a server connection might not prove he is connected to a barter exchange, but it is a beginning.
Who came up with the idea Our Streets boss was overseas? If I were him I would be just because of all the stuff investors could do to him if they caught him, plus the legal issues, I think you are right though that he may publicize his business is overseas but he is actually here somewhere. He may use an overseas business address just for legal reasons.
Feel like organized crime has come into my home.
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hey thanks sceptor... still looking into it. i havn't found all info on the whole deal. i was unaware of the halt tho. but looking at the chart on bigcharts now i see that... looks to be .10 to 3.50... guess i should have tried looking there in the first place...
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actually JR, i'm not posting them here, but there are numerous articles that hypothesize that all this shorting is done to finance organized crime & terrorism. and all the cybersmear websites are part & parcel to perpetuating that financing. i wont comment on all that, but i will say that would make it a very powerful 'cyberworld'.
last thing i'll post...
this OurStreet dude is a flower-power quackeroo imo! i never read this before, about his otcart website and his finding "data in crystals" whooooa. timothy leary did a job on this guy.
... Discredited Our-Street Files Against Another Company, This Time With False Claims
Jul 23, 2004 (financialwire.net via COMTEX)
The result of its newest attack, mysteriously alleged by "unknown and unnamed," anonymous so-called "investigators," in the less-than-transparent tradition of Our-Street.com, was to tank shareholders' investments in Power 3 Medical's stock by 15.38% on volume of 429,464, over three times its average volume of 136,363, closing at $2.75 from its previous $3.25. Investors who feel they were wrongfully harmed may have no recourse, given the Our-Street's proclaimed lack of money."....
ok, that's my DD sharing for the weekend. give y'alls something extra to read.
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however sceptor... looking at the chart... why did it gradually climb from .03-.10 before the reset if it was actually halted?
EDIT well i guess it could have opened for trading about a week before reset but you'd think there would have been a little more in fluctuation?...
this may be a dumb question scept... but is this graph that reliable? looking at the chart before the halt it shows it stayed at .02 for a month then starting in may sometime there is no data... just a question
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nice work BB... i assume you read that our street is supposedly named Timothy Miles...
JR? you really should read our streets web site..
it's not exackkly the encyclopedia britannica...
i know that a few people here at allstocks "bash" for fun on occasion....
BUT?
the kind of bashing that involves 40 hr workweeks? that should be considered professional, even if it's not very high quality..... somebody has a financial interest somehow..
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quote:Originally posted by P Rowds: however sceptor... looking at the chart... why did it gradually climb from .03-.10 before the reset if it was actually halted?
EDIT well i guess it could have opened for trading about a week before reset but you'd think there would have been a little more in fluctuation?...
this may be a dumb question scept... but is this graph that reliable? looking at the chart before the halt it shows it stayed at .02 for a month then starting in may sometime there is no data... just a question
I dont really know. One of the guys on hsm pointed out the halt to me from his historical data. I'll look tomorrow and copy it here for you.
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quote:Originally posted by betting babe: ok, that's my DD sharing for the weekend. give y'alls something extra to read.
~BB
Someone on ihub just posted a lawsuit against him dated march this year. I have the opinion that the crystals thing is a front to make him look wacko.
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Portland, Ore., resident Leslie French is the man behind "debin23," according to the lawsuit filed recently by Sensient, which produces colors, flavors and fragrances.
The lawsuit claims that French, as debin23, last October launched a "smear campaign" aimed at Sensient by posting libelous messages on Yahoo! Inc.'s Internet message board. The lawsuit says French launched the campaign "for his own gain" but doesn't elaborate.
"French has made false statements that assail (Sensient's) financial position and business methods, and has accused (Sensient) of tortious and criminal acts as well as mismanagement," the lawsuit says..."
anywayz... there's more to read there... i just find the server connection coincidental. does anyone have a name behind OurStreet aside from Timothy Miles?
and btw, French has won one lawsuit, and it was ruled that he can say anything he wants on the chat boards.
French says "No corporate executive worth his salt would dare be caught dead chasing after a few Internet posters."
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BB, that was some really good Internet DD on those sites.
**** SPECULATION ****
At this point I do not believe the Bonds where ever in any real jeopardy of being revoked.
Like I have said before. I think we may have gotten a whiff of some internal power jockeying or ego collisions. In reality these are not important but are easily distorted by the bashers.
TDA cutting off buying but not selling and even offering free transactions to sell is just one more confirmation in the "shorty" argument. Brokerage houses closing down half the transaction tells me the deal is real. The financial aspects of this deal have to be real in order for this to work. The houses that have restricted buying are confirming the deal in a very real way.
What is in question is the scope of the deal. For that we have to await the 10k.
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I have a scenario I am working on but can't confirm yet.
An IHUB poster who got out of CSHD said he knew of 10 Million Dollars owed to Sakli or the foundation.
Say it gets crunch time and Harris hasn't paid him yet, so he puts a little pressure by threatening to cancel the bonds and has this letter leaked on the 31st.
The next day Our-Street gets another letter saying the company is making amends, in other words making payment of what they owe.
quote: We request that this information not be published as Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp is making amends for their error.
Maybe it was a payment error of 10 million??????
If both e-mails were from Humanitarian and Scientific World foundation, then the bonds would seem to be in tact and in good standing.
The other scenario is they wanted this shorted, so they put out the letter to give shorts some fodder to place their bets. Now they are really trapped. TDAmeritrade being one so they stopped others from buying.Posts: 660 | From: Kansas | Registered: Mar 2005
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quote:Originally posted by portman: BB, that was some really good Internet DD on those sites.
**** SPECULATION ****
At this point I do not believe the Bonds where ever in any real jeopardy of being revoked.
Like I have said before. I think we may have gotten a whiff of some internal power jockeying or ego collisions. In reality these are not important but are easily distorted by the bashers.
TDA cutting off buying but not selling and even offering free transactions to sell is just one more confirmation in the "shorty" argument. Brokerage houses closing down half the transaction tells me the deal is real. The financial aspects of this deal have to be real in order for this to work. The houses that have restricted buying are confirming the deal in a very real way.
What is in question is the scope of the deal. For that we have to await the 10k.
Or it could mean its totally fake and they want to "protect" their customers. I know Scottrade does this at times with some like PAIM and other sh!t stocks. Keep in mind folks, this could be a scam just as quickly as the next. Be careful and keep your eyes open for DD!!! Do your OWN DD and protect your capital.
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quote:Originally posted by JohnnyRotten: I have a scenario I am working on but can't confirm yet.
An IHUB poster who got out of CSHD said he knew of 10 Million Dollars owed to Sakli or the foundation.
Say it gets crunch time and Harris hasn't paid him yet, so he puts a little pressure by threatening to cancel the bonds and has this letter leaked on the 31st.
The next day Our-Street gets another letter saying the company is making amends, in other words making payment of what they owe.
quote: We request that this information not be published as Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp is making amends for their error.
Maybe it was a payment error of 10 million??????
If both e-mails were from Humanitarian and Scientific World foundation, then the bonds would seem to be in tact and in good standing.
The other scenario is they wanted this shorted, so they put out the letter to give shorts some fodder to place their bets. Now they are really trapped. TDAmeritrade being one so they stopped others from buying.
This was shorted long ago. the donkeys on ihub are continuously trying to come up with new and inventive ways to make this look like a bad trade for everyone. they will continue doing that until they are let go by their employers. The actual shorted like our-street will continue on forever.
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quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: False accusation. Wrong. You people have no respect for folks that have been here longer. Why I even try to explain myself I dunno. Maybe it is better that I am banned from Allstocks....
No..
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quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: False accusation. Wrong. You people have no respect for folks that have been here longer. Why I even try to explain myself I dunno. Maybe it is better that I am banned from Allstocks....
No..
No 10. I am saying that is false and sceptor is wrong... You doubt me too?...
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GREAT! I had sent an email to the so called Humanitarian web address info*hsworldfoundation.com of the supposed C/D and now I'm getting stock spam to an account I never give out.
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quote:Originally posted by T e x: will look into it...
Thanks Tex. I would really miss you guys, well a few of you. I wanted to IM or PM you but wasn't allowed so had to post publicly. Didn't want to though...
I'm just saying be careful and protect your capital. Not defending our-idiot like sceptor thinks.... Gotta keep folks in the real world or one can end up truly financially hurt.
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I had sent an email to the so called Humanitarian web address info*hsworldfoundation.com of the supposed C/D and now I'm getting stock spam to an account I never give out.
