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Brad
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posted August 06, 2004 11:12     Click Here to See the Profile for Brad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And then there were 3.
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http://tinyurl.com/57koo

Holdings Summary

CMKX
CMKM DIAMONDS INC Other OTC

Ownership Summary Description


INSTITUTIONAL
Total Number of Holders 3

% of Shares Outstanding 0.58%

Total Shares Held 3,999,999


Top 5 Holders Shares Held
NIAGARA INVESTM... 2,000,000

GREYLIN INVESTM... 1,000,000

WAGNER CAPITAL ... 999,999

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Upside
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posted August 06, 2004 11:15     Click Here to See the Profile for Upside     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Razor,
I'll take a stab at it:

UCAD:
record date: 8/20/04
ex. date: unknown

CIM:
record date: 8/31/04
ex. date: unknown although it could be
8/31/04 depending on how the
p/r is interpreted.

GEMM:
record date: 10/1/04
ex. date: 10/1/04

Hope this helps!

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Razorman
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posted August 06, 2004 11:22     Click Here to See the Profile for Razorman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you upside. These dates are going to be important for my buying patterns.

Just wanted to note these dates to see if I can get in at a nice price before the squeeze.


Brad:

your share numbers are looking way off... am I missing something?

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Brad
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posted August 06, 2004 11:25     Click Here to See the Profile for Brad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Razorman:

Brad:

your share numbers are looking way off... am I missing something?


These are institutional holdings. I tried posting the link to the Nasdaq web site that shows it but it's so long that everyone will have to scroll to the right for the rest of this page.

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Brad
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posted August 06, 2004 11:31     Click Here to See the Profile for Brad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've posted the link here and in my post at the top of the page.
http://tinyurl.com/57koo

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JBCak47
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posted August 06, 2004 11:33     Click Here to See the Profile for JBCak47     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Money P

I LOVE STAR WARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I use to have ROTJ Wall paper...

I have figures MINT ON CARD lol...MOC

I have a couple of Bounty Hunters on mint card, 4-LOM (My favorite) and some of the DROIDS Series on card

I love you money P!!!! STAR WARS FOR EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MUWAHAHAH

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Wizardress Good FRIDAY morning,heheh...

How are you, our allstock diamond !!!

I am good, this poor boy got paid today so another 200 to cmkx!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Muwahahahah!!!!

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Pharm how are you buddy ???

Im well, its Friday guys!!!!

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-John-

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Razorman
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posted August 06, 2004 11:34     Click Here to See the Profile for Razorman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, i saw it...

Those share numbers arent very significant.

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Money_Penny
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posted August 06, 2004 11:48     Click Here to See the Profile for Money_Penny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
John,

LOL. How long until you trade your Star Wars memorabilia in for CMKX shares?

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Brad
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posted August 06, 2004 11:52     Click Here to See the Profile for Brad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Razorman:
Thanks, i saw it...

Those share numbers arent very significant.


It's not the number of shares that is significant, it's the fact that 3 institutions are at least taking notice. I also wonder about the O/S # that they note. 0.58%

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JBCak47
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posted August 06, 2004 11:52     Click Here to See the Profile for JBCak47     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Money P:

WHOA!!! Now hold on... That is about the same as selling my soul... NEVER!

Those Star Wars toys, which I must add are all in the boxes, I played with some and then began collecting when I was like 8 or 9...lol...

I have a Patrol Dewback, MINT IN MINT BOX!!!

I always loved getting those little Star Wars toy booklets when you bought a big star wars toy... You know, they showed you the toys, figures, Jabba's Playdough Set

I've got some pretty interesting things, Boba The Fett Party favors, bed sheets, Empire Strikes Back pillow covers with Boba Fett on it... R2D2 Cookie Jar and R2D2 Lamp...

My Yoda doll in box...lol..

I'd NEVER sell anyof that... I think I'D GO MAD.

-John-

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JBCak47
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posted August 06, 2004 11:55     Click Here to See the Profile for JBCak47     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
However Money P, I am not agginst selling MYSELF for money for CMKX shares...

Anyone wanna make any offers ???

I take cash or CMKX shares, will also take QBID shares but that is on a case per case basis

Hey, gotta do what I gotta do right? Better than me selling rock for cmkx... nooooo not diamond-kimberlite-rock...

-John-

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WWJD-thru-me
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posted August 06, 2004 12:02     Click Here to See the Profile for WWJD-thru-me     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
John -They better issue a cash dividend so you can buy some more Star Wars stuff. I saw the first ones and loved them but I didn't even see the recent ones. Did I miss anything? Those first ones were so good. I have a hard time thinking the prequels could live up to them.

Anybody read my post at the bottom of page 42? I would love some thoughtful feedback on that. I know some days thought is a challenge. Especially on Fridays. If CMKX turns out well maybe we can hire someone to think for us. I know many have offered to. Have a great day and I'll be back later.
GLTA-DD-IMO-Debi

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WWJD-thru-me
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posted August 06, 2004 12:05     Click Here to See the Profile for WWJD-thru-me     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brad if you go to tinyurl.com you can enter that long url that is causing the page to scroll and they will pop a short one to you in 2 seconds. It is free and a really cool tool to have available. It will keep us from having to scroll the page constantly.
Thanks-Debi

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noahltl
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posted August 06, 2004 12:07     Click Here to See the Profile for noahltl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bigD

Re: Melvin and PalTalk
« Reply #14 on: Today at 10:01am »

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.otcbb.com/aboutOTCBB/secrules.stm - About half way down

SEC Rule 10b-17 requires all issuers of publicly traded securities, including Pink Sheets securities, to notify the NASD at least 10 calendar days prior to the record date of any dividend or other distribution, stock split, reverse split, or rights or subscription offering.

According to this they must report the OS w/n ten days of the reporting date not the issue date. The record date is either the 20th or the 17th of this month so worst case scenario is that we should know by Tuesday of next week.

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JBCak47
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posted August 06, 2004 12:11     Click Here to See the Profile for JBCak47     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WWJD:

Lol, I haven't bought a Star Wars toy in some time

The new movies are terrible, I mean they are good, but I am use to the 1980's Star Wars... The new Star Wars movies made a new generation fall in love... I fell in love over two decades ago, no need to hook me with CGI graphics and what not...

-John-

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WinsumLosesum
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posted August 06, 2004 12:19     Click Here to See the Profile for WinsumLosesum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
bigD

Re: Melvin and PalTalk
« Reply #14 on: Today at 10:01am »
SEC Rule 10b-17


Yeah, a guy named John just called into IBCRadio and mentioned that. Was that anybody here?

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JBCak47
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posted August 06, 2004 12:20     Click Here to See the Profile for JBCak47     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also the concept of Star Wars is really about the Roman Empire and America...

The whole concept of how the 'dark side' came about and why the 'EMPIRE' came into being was because they needed to protect trade routes and the money flow/supply... and how too much control of capitalism will cause distress...

The movies of the orginal Star Wars paints a scene of how things can get when 'control' is the point of existance. Money and control= The Empire...

I remember being like 12 and comming to the conclusion that Star Wars is really based upon the history of the Roman Empire, which we as America are just a reincarnation of that same empire

-John-

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dwman
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posted August 06, 2004 12:33     Click Here to See the Profile for dwman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A friend is thinking of buying some cmkx. Anybody have a feel for when it might move off of .0004 and hopefully up?

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Brad
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posted August 06, 2004 12:41     Click Here to See the Profile for Brad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
A friend is thinking of buying some cmkx. Anybody have a feel for when it might move off of .0004 and hopefully up?

And that, my dear sir, is the question everyone would like to know. If someone tells they have a "feeling" on timing just remember that it's speculation.

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Brad
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posted August 06, 2004 12:43     Click Here to See the Profile for Brad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:
Brad if you go to tinyurl.com you can enter that long url that is causing the page to scroll and they will pop a short one to you in 2 seconds. It is free and a really cool tool to have available. It will keep us from having to scroll the page constantly.
Thanks-Debi

That's just friggin awesome Debi. I took care of it and will forever have that site bookmarked.

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HarryHar
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posted August 06, 2004 12:43     Click Here to See the Profile for HarryHar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My opinion is that it will move when the O/S comes out, depending on what it is. I don't really understand how a short squeeze would happen. I don't even know if it could really happen, because I've never seen it before. But if that does happen, it will also move. Just to be safe, give it enough time to get to the second dividend record date...just to be safe.

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JBCak47
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posted August 06, 2004 12:46     Click Here to See the Profile for JBCak47     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say now is a good time to get in...

Where is everyone today, Wizardess, Pharm,lol...

I am hoping to get in on Monday or Tuesday again at .0004, like 400k shares... Now is the time to load up as in a week I dont think .0004 will be available, but who knows?!?!

-John-

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posted August 06, 2004 13:14     Click Here to See the Profile for RaiderJR     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a legal requirement to file OS 10 business days before the record date, around the 20th. Someone on another board said it applied to pinks as well.

That would mean true OS will be filed between now and monday if I am not mistaken.

Because the number posted by the OTCBB had a plus it probably was not an official number.

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safeguard
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posted August 06, 2004 13:36     Click Here to See the Profile for safeguard     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OTC Market Data for Pink Sheets Quoted Stocks
As of Aug 5, 2004

Total Share Volume: 4,197,040,762
Total Estimated Dollar Volume: $182,935,176


Most of this volume had to be CMKX....

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cool1sh
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posted August 06, 2004 13:48     Click Here to See the Profile for cool1sh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2.45B as of now

quote:
Originally posted by safeguard:
OTC Market Data for Pink Sheets Quoted Stocks
As of Aug 5, 2004

Total Share Volume: 4,197,040,762
Total Estimated Dollar Volume: $182,935,176


Most of this volume had to be CMKX....


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Spinoff
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posted August 06, 2004 14:57     Click Here to See the Profile for Spinoff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So you guys are saying that I may be getting some cash dividend for owning the CIM spinoff shares? That would rock (punanator)

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WinsumLosesum
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posted August 06, 2004 14:59     Click Here to See the Profile for WinsumLosesum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cmkm Diamond Inc     (OTHER OTC: CMKX) Last Update: 2:51:00 PM ET Aug 6, 2004  
 
U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. to Proceed with Sampling on Saskatchewan Drill Target

LAS VEGAS, Aug 6, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. (UCAD) announced today that its drilling partner, CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX), has received all necessary drilling permits and surface exploration permits to mobilize its drilling equipment to a new site located approximately 5 miles northwest of Kensington-DeBeers Kimberlite 122 and 6.5 miles northwest of Shore Gold Inc.'s Star Diamond Project in the Forte a La Corne, Saskatchewan, area, where Shore Gold recently yielded a 19.71-carat diamond. The drill site partnership includes Shane Resources (SEIh.V), United Carina Resources Corp. (UCA.V) and Consolidated Pine Channel Gold Corp. (KPG.V). All the partners shall have representation at the drill site at the time of drilling.

The target was outlined by a geophysical method known as a Time-Domain Electro Magnetic Survey. This particular type of survey measures the resistively of rock. Such surveys have been very helpful in the discovery of kimberlites in the hac de Gras area of Canada.

Further details relative to this project will be forthcoming in future press releases and at http://www.uscanadian.com/.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

Statements contained in this document which are not historical fact are forward-looking statements based upon management's current expectations that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in or implied by forward-looking statements.

SOURCE: U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc.

U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc.Chris Hanneman, 303-220-8476

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RaiderJR
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posted August 06, 2004 15:09     Click Here to See the Profile for RaiderJR     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess that means UCAD will test immediately upon a core sample.

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WWJD-thru-me
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posted August 06, 2004 15:23     Click Here to See the Profile for WWJD-thru-me     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brad -that tinyurl site is cool. Winsome showed it to me. Does make things manageable.

Noahtl -I left a message for you. Did you get it? I had sent one and I don't think that went through. I sent another one.

Stock price is like watching paint dry. Have a great weekend all. I'll be popping back in no doubt. -Debi

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bill1352
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posted August 06, 2004 17:45     Click Here to See the Profile for bill1352     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wwjd...re: your post on last page...he said maybe about any restricted cmkx shares not getting a dividend. he also started the whole thing saying he was dreaming it up..not those words just same meaning...dr d sure has some big dreams..i also think your right if and its still if there are naked shares there is no way to cover the dividend of ucad or cmi thus if the pps does not go up by the date you need to own cmkx to cover any naked short its not shorted or at least not by much. they might try to cover a few ucad but cant the other. also if they were going to try and cover ucad you'd think the pps would go up to get a few shares in the bank...lol i'm glad to hear about the + sign on the otc board post. i was feeling bad about a few things melvin has said about the o/s in the past...thank you whoever for the info on the 10 day rule i was wondering if pinks had that apply to them because of the cmi or cim or whatever..lol plus juinia is a pink. so here's to hoping the o/s isnt as otc has posted and here's to UC getting a big stick & holding it over any restricted shares heads getting us a few extra ucad shares.

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trgfunds
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posted August 06, 2004 19:05     Click Here to See the Profile for trgfunds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone know for sure if it does apply to pinks? If this is true, any speculation as to whether my new buys at .0004 will fill monday morning?? (I want another 1.2M )

quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
There is a legal requirement to file OS 10 business days before the record date, around the 20th. Someone on another board said it applied to pinks as well.

That would mean true OS will be filed between now and monday if I am not mistaken.

Because the number posted by the OTCBB had a plus it probably was not an official number.


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Razorman
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posted August 06, 2004 19:18     Click Here to See the Profile for Razorman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im gonna try to fill for 2.5mill more on monday.

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bill1352
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posted August 06, 2004 21:24     Click Here to See the Profile for bill1352     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i dont see where it says pink sheet stocks and if i'm reading this right it doesn't say it has to tell us only the securitys commission
Given to the National Association of Securities Dealers, Inc., no later than 10 [calendar] days prior to the record date involved or, in case of a rights subscription or other offering if such 10 [calendar] days advance notice is not practical, on or before the record date and in no event later than the effective date of the registration statement to which the offering relates, and such notice includes:

For a dividend or other distribution including a stock or reverse split or rights or other subscription offering:


In cash, the amount of cash to be paid or distributed per share, except if exact per share cash distributions cannot be given because of existing conversion rights which may be exercised during the notice period and which may affect the per share cash distribution, then a reasonable approximation of the per share distribution may be provided so long as the actual per share distribution is subsequently provided on the record date,

The Commission, upon written request or upon its own motion, exempts the issuer from compliance with paragraph (b)(1) of this section either unconditionally or on specified terms or conditions, as not constituting a manipulative or deceptive device or contrivance comprehended within the purpose of this section; or...
these are a few pharagraphs from the otc rules...as you can see there are of course a few loopholes anything written by lawyers has to have a loophole

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WWJD-thru-me
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posted August 06, 2004 21:26     Click Here to See the Profile for WWJD-thru-me     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am expecting the price to be .0004 on Monday unless the share count is filed as samll. If the share count is filed as 483 BIllion and is not broken down into restricted and unrestricted shares, I am not going to freak out. I am going to wait for the share structure to be released by the company. I do think this is going to turn out well. I expect that when all the facts are known this will turn out to be one of my better lifetime trades. I can only base that on how I understand the PR's of the last two years and put that together with what I believe is happening in the OTC and pink market.

Other people looking at the same information will come up with an entirely different read. They may be right. I am thinking I will be right. I still have a difficult time seeing the down side of this trade at .0004. I think it is undervalued at .0004 even without finding diamonds if it has 483 Billion shares. They have done some aerial surveys and some core drilling. They have partnerships and $200 Million doesn't seem like a full valuation at where we stand currently. If they have more, like a short squeeze, the Mother Lode of diamondiferous kimberlite, sales of claims, other minerals, etc, this will be great. If the next two weeks are rocky trust the DD you did. Still long and strong and planning on going to Vegas. GLTA-IMO-DD-Debi

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posted August 06, 2004 21:27     Click Here to See the Profile for highwaychild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by highwaychild:
[b]Will,
The o/s is still to be deterMINED.


WHAT THE HE$$ is a deter mine
VAN

[/B][/QUOTE]
HA HA HA,determined,
to fix conclusively or authoritatively b : to decide by judicial sentence c : to settle or decide by choice of alternatives or possibilities d : RESOLVE
2 a : to fix the form, position, or character of beforehand : ORDAIN <two points determine a straight line> b : to bring about as a result : REGULATE <demand determines the price>
3 a : to fix the boundaries of b : to limit in extent or scope c : to put or set an end to : TERMINATE <determine an estate>

Pardon the pun,sorry

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posted August 06, 2004 21:46     Click Here to See the Profile for cool1sh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
New Sterling's post.. just for fun

This one is not that bad, I must add.
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CMKX-Operation Dividends...

Operation Dividends is the major air campaign of the Casavant Maneuver that is going to be launched to combat and take out the naked shorting that have been going on with CMKX by the Market Makers and/or their affiliates. This is how we will win the battles and ultimately the war! Below are some thoughts that are only my opinions.

This is a major Operation that Urban Casavant and Team CMKX will be launching to award shareholders tactical and strategic gains of huge magnitude in my opinion. This will be done through giving shareholders cash and shares in newly subsidiary companies with the goals of each subsidiary to be trading in any of the major markets to eliminate the opportunity of having fictitious shares created for accountability.

On the date of execution of each subsidiary, the subsidiary will then trade as a conceived dividend in our brokerage accounts leaving value behind in CMKX as shares are transferred into our accounts. The goal is for us never to sell any CMKX shares and to live off of our dividends as they will have tremendous value in cash and shares which will all trade on major markets with the approved stamped seal of Urban and Roger Glenn.

This will enhance value in CMKX and will not allow their valuation to be subject to degradation of the large CMKX outstanding share (OS) structure in my opinion which is a must and a plus to provide the essential liquidity for more shareholders to enjoy in the fruitages of CMKX prosperity. Before we continue on further, let’s understand why Urban chose to have a large OS. And what I mean by large, is that it’s a lot larger than what many of us had originally expected.

Having a large OS allows Urban to be able to help people through executing Operation Dividends. If there was a small OS, such as 1 million shares, there would not be many or enough shares available for many to buy. Therefore, only a few could buy shares in CMKX to be awarded the value to be placed in the dividends to be awarded to the CMKX shareholders. A select few could buy up CMKX and keep many from becoming prosperous through Urban’s gifts through the dividends. How could Urban help many people if he did not make available shares to be bought for us all to retrieve the dividends of value?

Urban can take all of the value that would be in CMKX and divide each precious metal, minerals, and other tangible assets into stock spinouts to trade as their separate entity to award to us shareholders and further enhance dissemination.

The best way to view this is to consider the company mentioned to trade as a subsidiary under CMKX while enhancing value especially as their price increases up until the time of the execution date. Upon the execution date, the value would have graduated CMKX to the next level of valuation while the subsidiary breaks off to trade for us separately as our dividend under its own merit and valuation only.

If the shares of the subsidiary remain restricted, then it should be considered a delayed cash dividend at the time of when you sell. If the shares are not restricted, then the shares could be considered an immediate cash dividend through a stock dividend at the time of when you sell. All of these dividends will be stocks of value trading on major exchanges because I believe that such is one of the main purposes for hiring Roger Glenn.

I’m thinking that Urban will be selling land to companies that would have use for key resources already identified on certain portions of our CMKX land. From looking at the past PRs, it looks like 49% is the magic number. From reading the Jan 03 PR about stock and cash dividends, one would have to guess that Urban could be giving us 49% of any transaction completed for cash back to the shareholders and 49% of the stock being dealt with. This is a double hammer of gains to us shareholders and the companies involved.

The shareholders would be so happy from such receipt of any type of cash dividend if such were to happened as mention from the PR dated back in Jan 03, that it would turn into a rush to see who could buy more CMKX shares the fastest to include UCAD and GEMM for being key affiliates. This would be a brilliant move because I would have to guess that investor confidence would grow and see the importance of why Urban wants us to hold our shares of CMKX. This would be Urban’s way of letting action speak louder than words.

I believe this action is how Urban is planning on rewarding only us CMKX shareholders many dividends in significant companies/stocks of value by using the “Legit Float” as the key variable to determine the distribution ratio instead of using the OS as done as the norm. This means that the OS is not important for actual valuation anymore for us CMKX shareholders. This is why knowing or not knowing the OS does not matter because it won’t be used for determining the distribution of dividends. This will revolutionize the entire investing community completely if this transact as I suspect!

Urban is using the “Legit Float” as the key variable and numerator for determination of the distribution ratio which I believe to be less than 40 billion in my opinion. The 40 billion shares is the cap of maximization in my opinion for the “Legit Float.” This is what I assumed from interpreting the CIM dividend PR. ht tp://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath%3DCOMTEX%5Cbw%5C2004%5C07%5C20%5C22109201.html%26clientid%3D168%26provider%3DBUSINESS_WIRE&symbol=CMKX

The thought for using the 40 billion was because Urban wanted to make sure all of the current shareholders receive shares in CIM that bought after the old cutoff date of Sep 03 to keep a united front of happiness amongst all the present CMKX shareholders that have been major contributors and supporters of the company. With the announcement of the 40 billion in the CIM PR, I am guessing that such was the number to make sure he captures all the current shareholders as a minimum number for the “Legit Float” for the cap.

This means that the “Legit Float” will be the key variable to use for determining the distribution ratio to shareholders and not the OS as usual. The OS will be used for filing purposes to assess official value with the SEC for determining fundamental valuation. It doesn’t have to be used as the variable of distribution to disseminate shareholder dividends. The CEO can officially give out his dividends to whoever he wants. If it’s just shareholders of the “Legit Float” then so be it as long as it is explained to the insiders to not be expecting any dividends for their restricted shares which make up part of the OS.

This is in congruence with Urban’s plan to reward those who are in need. Urban considers us the shareholders as being in more need than those who own restricted shares. Urban is our modern day Robin Hood because he will legally take from the rich (or not give to the rich) to give to the poor (or those who are more in line of the needy). This is the love the Urban makes manifest for his CMKX shareholders.

The normal OS is made up of the Restricted Shares + the Float. Here with CMKX, the OS is made up of the Restricted Shares + the Illegitimate Float + Legitimate Float. This is how new shareholders that buy up until the date of execution are included into the distribution ratio even though their recent shares bought are naked shorted shares.

I think we should consider the thoughts of the normal OS for CMKX to be 195 billion to 300 billion in my opinion. From the UCAD dividend PR, Nevada minerals was officially given 75 billion shares of CMKX. This is an official announcement of actual restricted shares that are officially part of the OS.

I am guessing that those 75 billion shares represent 49% of CMKX outstanding shares (OS) so that Urban and the company insiders maintained a 51% controlling interest in CMKX.

Now we must ask ourselves…

75 billion is 49% of what number?

To solve:
75,000,000,000/X = 49/100
49X = 7,500,000,000,000
X = 153, 061,224,489

This means that the OS could conceivably be 153,061,224,489 shares. The 40 billion mentioned in the CIM dividend PR could be included within the OS number just calculated. If not, then this would give us an OS of about 195 billion as I had mentioned earlier.

All of these shares bought by shareholders up until the date of execution and in past are captured in the 40 billion number in my opinion as the cap for the “Legit Float” as the 40 billion mentioned in the CIM dividend PR. This means the 7.5 million of UCAD should be divided by 40 billion to get the distribution ratio. Observe...

7,500,000 ÷ 40,000,000,000 = Per Share Multiple
.0001875 = Per Share Multiple

This means that this is the multiple to use for determining the amount of UCAD you will receive per 1 CMKX share bought. Example...

1,000,000 CMKX shares x .0001875 = 187.5 shares of UCAD

This means that for every 1Mil shares you buy of CMKX, you will be given .0001875 shares of UCAD.

So, if you own 25Mil of CMKX, then...

25,000,000 x .0001875 = 4,687.5 shares of UCAD

Assume now UCAD is trading at $15.00 per share:
UCAD = $15.00 x 4,687.5
UCAD = $70,312.50

This means that for buying 25Mil shares of CMKX at .0004 cent(s) at the cost of $10,000, you will be getting back $70,312.50 in UCAD value from the above example. Keep in mind that this will only be 1 stock dividend of many as this still does not include any inclusion of any cash dividends. Hmmmmm…

For you heavy hitters, consider if you bought 250,000,000 shares of CMKX at .0004 cent(s).

So, if you own 250Mil, then...

250,000,000 x .0001875 = 46,875 shares of UCAD

Assume UCAD is trading at $15.00 per share:
UCAD = $15.00 x 46,875
UCAD = $703,125

The above is how to consider the calculation for determining the distribution multiple to determine the portion of UCAD shares given for owning 1 CMKX share. The same results would be warranted if done in reverse to derive to such resolution through the use of the ratio logic.

Now if the OS is actually the 153,061,224,489 as derived from above, then consider such below:

7,500,000 ÷ 153,061,224,489 = Per Share Multiple
.000049 = Per Share Multiple

This means that this is the multiple to use for determining the amount of UCAD you will receive per 1 CMKX share bought. Example...

1,000,000 CMKX shares x .000049 = 49 shares of UCAD

This means that for every 1Mil shares you buy of CMKX, you will be given .000049 shares of UCAD.

So, if you own 25Mil of CMKX, then...

25,000,000 x .000049 = 1,225 shares of UCAD

Assume now UCAD is trading at $15.00 per share:
UCAD = $15.00 x 1,225
UCAD = $18,375

This means that for buying 25Mil shares of CMKX at .0004 cent(s) at the cost of $10,000, you will be getting back $18,375 in UCAD value from the above example. Keep in mind that this will only be 1 stock dividend of many as this still does not include any inclusion of any cash dividends. Hmmmmm…

For you heavy hitters, consider if you bought 250,000,000 shares of CMKX at .0004 cent(s).

So, if you own 250Mil, then...

250,000,000 x .000049 = 12,250 shares of UCAD

Assume UCAD is trading at $15.00 per share:
UCAD = $15.00 x 12,250
UCAD = $183,750

Now, if for some reason neither of the above paths are not the paths taken, then we should consider only as a worse case scenario the information that is publicly known through the link below which indicates that the distribution multiple equates to 1 share of CMKX being equaled to +.0000155 shares of UCAD. http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dividend.asp?sym_id=CMKX&dDate=08/20/2004&sDateType=Record_da te

Because of the plus sign in front of the multiple, I think that we should consider such as what was temporarily submitted as the worse case scenario. This means that the multiple could be later reported to be higher on the plus side for calculation which would result in a mathematical effect of deriving a lower OS for CMKX. As it stands from the link, the OS is derived as shown below:

7,500,000 ÷ .0000155 = OS
483,870,967,741 = OS

First, before I go any further, I am not saying that I believe this to be so. I am just showing how if this is so, we still would be fine from the implementation of Operation Dividends.

This means the 7.5Mil of UCAD should be divided by 483,870,967,741 to get the worse case distribution ratio of .0000155. Observe...

7,500,000 ÷ 483,870,967,741 = Per Share Multiple
.0000155 = Per Share Multiple

This means that this is the multiple to use for determining the amount of UCAD you will receive per CMKX shares bought. Example...

1,000,000 CMKX shares x .0000155 = 15.5 shares of UCAD

This means that for every 1Mil shares you buy of CMKX, you will be given 15.5 shares of UCAD. So, if you own 25Mil, then...

25,000,000 x .0000155 = 387.5 shares of UCAD

Assume UCAD is trading at $15.00 per share
UCAD = $15.00 x 387.5
UCAD = $5,812.50

So let’s consider where we are as a worse case scenario. This means that for buying 25Mil shares of CMKX at .0004 cent(s) at the cost of $10,000, you will be getting back $5,812.50 in UCAD value from the above example. Keep in mind that this will only be 1 stock dividend of many as this still does not include any possibilities of any cash dividends as I mentioned above too.

Again, for you heavy hitters, consider if you bought 250,000,000 shares of CMKX at .0004 cent(s) at $100,000.

So, if you own 250 million, then...

250,000,000 x .0000155 = 3,875 shares of UCAD

Assume UCAD is trading at $15.00 per share:
UCAD = $15.00 x 3,875
UCAD = $58,125

So if the +.0000155 is not the correct multiple to use for the UCAD distribution of shares, then according to the SEC Rule 10b-17, paragraph b, section 1, CMKX will have to have submitted the correct info within 10 calendar days of the date of execution from the link below. This interpretation is yet still debatable. http://www.otcbb.com/aboutOTCBB/secrules.stm

None of the above calculations are bad. Some are just better than others. All of them presented the delivery of a dividend I UCAD to give us much of what we now do not have. These options are all worthy for increased hope in my opinion for a dividend to CMKX shareholders.

Urban will continue to award us shareholders numerous dividends in the amount of 15+ to enhance the value of CMKX culminating with the goal achievement of being on the NYSE in my opinion. So in my opinion, multiply any of the above examples by 15 to really understand the magnitude of Operation Dividends.

As I had mentioned before, there were mentions of a cash dividend in an older PR dated back in Jan 03. To consider the power of a cash dividend, one must understand the power of how one would bring instant valuation to the worth of CMKX. Let’s take for an example what should be considered if we were to receive a cash dividend of .10 cents.

Understand first that I am by no means insinuating that we are receiving a cash dividend anytime soon in the amount of .10 cents. I am only using this number to facilitate the example that I am about to explain. I am still speculating.

To continue, take for an example if we were to receive a .10 cents cash dividend to capture the immediate valuation of CMKX. You must first consider that upon such an announcement, this would mean that CMKX could be bought up to .10 cents and much much higher to warrant gains.

The thought would be that if you bought CMKX at .10 cents, you would get .10 cents back in return from the dividend. This would give you a 100% return on your money from buying CMKX at .10 cents.

Now consider that if you bought CMKX at .20 cents, you would now get 50% return on your money by getting the dividend of .10 cents.

Now consider that if you bought CMKX at .50 cents, you would now get 20% return on your money by getting the dividend of .10 cents.

Now consider that if you bought CMKX at $1.00 per share, you would now get 10% return on your money by getting the dividend of .10 cents.

Now consider that if you bought CMKX at $2.00 per share, you would now get 05% return on your money by getting the dividend of .10 cents.

So, buying CMKX at $2.00 per share would still give you a better return than what you would get by placing your money in a regular savings account.

The rate of inflation is 3% per year. Buying at $2.00 would also give you a rate higher than the rate of inflation.

All of the stock and cash dividend scenarios are all from a speculative point of view for consideration to give you a format to use once factual information is released by the company to determine the fundamental value in CMKX. These are ways in which I believe Urban will be building value in CMKX as a powerhouse dividend distribution machine through Operation Dividends.

By building CMKX into a powerhouse dividend distribution machine, the market makers (MMs) will have no choice but to cover to keep from burying themselves deeper in this naked short position they created for themselves. They are already embarrassed at how they underestimated the potential of CMKX and they know that they are in trouble, trust me on that one. Urban wants to instill in CMKX enough value to place CMKX in the position to maintain the levels of covering from the MMs once achieved.

Eventually the MMs will have to increase the bid to entice us shareholders to sell at our desires for them to cover. They will soon see that the value that CMKX will be revealing will force them to see that it’s not a matter of ego, but rather a matter of survival for their existence. They will be suspended from trading if they don’t come clean to rectify this problem in my opinion.

Urban does not want us to sell any of our shares though. He wants to take care of us through Operation Dividends. He would like for CMKX and/or the CMKX subsidiary/affiliate of companies to exist for our children and our grandchildren. He believes that he can make us as shareholders see his dreams as it is closing to form a new beginning.

This means that the ultimate goal is for CMKX to go away through what we have been wondering about since our introduction into CMKX, a Tender Offer. Urban wants to put us in a position to where he can send us out proxies to vote on a Tender Offer that we can’t refuse after all of the dividends have been secured in place for us shareholders in my opinion. Accepting any offer now would be like accepting the pie pan before placing the pie crust and pie filling in it before baking it. Why not just finish making and baking the pie so that you can get 10, 20, 30 or more times the value that you would have gotten from originally selling the pan.

I suspect that Tender Offers have been made and the interested parties are graduating to higher levels of interest. The longer we wait as more valuation is placed into CMKX, the higher a price would be justified. The time is nearing for such to consummate as I am sure that such is something you don’t want to wait to long either to transact. I’m guessing that we are about 4 months out before entertaining such thoughts. Again, only a guess.

As for the MMs, they will usually get a huge covering if they allow for a huge price increase because many will be selling to transition their positions to new shareholders with less of a supply to work with because of the increased investor interest that I believe will be taking place in the near future. This will force the MMs to chase the price upwards to not allow the lack of supply to overwhelm them for meeting the significant increase in demand.

As more is revealed, more individuals will be understanding that knowing or not knowing the OS is not as significant as what many have initially thought. I have shown from previous posts how we are a 2+ trillion dollar company through intrinsic valuation. From the examples above, I remained very conservative in my dividend calculations to be considered as worse case scenarios.

When we hit/reveal the mother-load, as I think we will and not in just diamonds either, much will justify prices that will reveal that there still will not be enough shares out there for the needed liquidity. All that you have just read are nothing more than my opinions. Treat all of the above as “theory” until proven to be “fact” by Urban and Team CMKX. Soon is in the eye of the beholder. The time is now!

All is well! http://www.sterlingsclass.com/

;-)
Sterling

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Debi,
Have you sent e-mail to Chris@UCAD? I did, got response back as well.
Hopefully I have lot more cash by then

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Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:
Still long and strong and planning on going to Vegas. GLTA-IMO-DD-Debi

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Melvin is losing it!

From another board:

Mel's song: Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow
« Thread started on: Today at 9:48pm »

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I just checked in to Paltalk, to hear Melvin answer a question about why he was so excited there earlier tonight. Did it have to do with the aerial surveys?

His answer: A little to do with that...but more something else. I'll tell you what. I'm going to play one more song before I go. And I want you people to really, really, really listen to the words of this song. this is probably...no it IS...if you really listen to the words of this song, it will tell you EXACTLY Mr. Casavant's feelings about this company...his feelings, my feelings:

The song: "Don't stop thinking about tomorrow...."

"I hope you listened to every word in that song. Keep playing it over and over, and listen to the words...."

-BD
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/f/fleetwood-mac/54276.html

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Does anyone know how I can listen to Melvin on Paltalk? Can you go into Paltalk and bring it up? Where do I look for it? Is there a link someone can hook me up with so I can hear it? Thank you guys.

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I have no words to describe this....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/scrapdogg/melvin4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/scrapdogg/melvin2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/scrapdogg/mevlin1.jpg

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HA HA HA!
Fleetwood Mac!
HA HA HA!
Now that's some funny stuff!
That'll mess with some peoples heads.

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Yea, now there's something to be proud of, Melvin! I'm sure everyone feels a lot more comfortable seeing his photos. I was amazed, and said God! Am I proud to have him representing the company I'm invested in, what a professional looking guy.
Nice song Marvin.
LOL, it never stops with this clown.

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...I still don't have any words.

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CHICKEN SALAD FROM CHICKEN SH|T:

"Having a large OS allows Urban to be able to help people through executing Operation Dividends. If there was a small OS, such as 1 million shares, there would not be many or enough shares available for many to buy. Therefore, only a few could buy shares in CMKX to be awarded the value to be placed in the dividends to be awarded to the CMKX shareholders. A select few could buy up CMKX and keep many from becoming prosperous through Urban’s gifts through the dividends. How could Urban help many people if he did not make available shares to be bought for us all to retrieve the dividends of value?"

They defy logic sometimes.

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How about this Will?

"Urban is our modern day Robin Hood because he will legally take from the rich (or not give to the rich) to give to the poor (or those who are more in line of the needy). This is the love the Urban makes manifest for his CMKX shareholders"

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Originally posted by will:
CHICKEN SALAD FROM CHICKEN SH|T:

"Having a large OS allows Urban to be able to help people through executing Operation Dividends. If there was a small OS, such as 1 million shares, there would not be many or enough shares available for many to buy. Therefore, only a few could buy shares in CMKX to be awarded the value to be placed in the dividends to be awarded to the CMKX shareholders. A select few could buy up CMKX and keep many from becoming prosperous through Urban’s gifts through the dividends. How could Urban help many people if he did not make available shares to be bought for us all to retrieve the dividends of value?"

They defy logic sometimes.


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cool, to tell you the truth I didn't read past, the more the merrier supposition that defied logic. lol
Urban, "The Father of Everything Good" !

They get way out there.

If anyone thinks for one second that Urban cares about anyone but Urban, and beleves this propaganda from someone who has a HUGE stake at risk, good luck to you.

These guys are good though. They should work in a plant that processes dogsh|t into roses.

Debi, I don't put you in their catagory, because you at least admit there are some negatives hanging out there to be accounted for.

Regarding your post on page 42. One would have to subscribe to the NSS theory that the good Dr supposed. If it exist, the MM's have a problem, if it doesn't there are 100's of billion O/S and we have a problem. I'm inclined to believe the stock is shorted, but not to the extent that these guys are alluding to.

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quote:
Originally posted by will:
cool, to tell you the truth I didn't read past, the more the merrier supposition that defied logic. lol
Urban, "The Father of Everything Good" !

They get way out there.

If anyone thinks for one second that Urban cares about anyone but Urban, and beleves this propaganda from someone who has a HUGE stake at risk, good luck to you.

These guys are good though. They should work in a plant that processes dogsh|t into roses.

Debi, I don't put you in their catagory, because you at least admit there are some negatives hanging out there to be accounted for.

Regarding your post on page 42. One would have to subscribe to the NSS theory that the good Dr supposed. If it exist, the MM's have a problem, if it doesn't there are 100's of billion O/S and we have a problem. I'm inclined to believe the stock is shorted, but not to the extent that these guys are alluding to.



I think that there ARE some good, caring people around. People that will help the needy, stand up aginst hatred, and yes, maybe even give as much as they have been given. Yeah, I know, sounds corny..right? I don't know how far I would go, and I don't think anyone really does know that, but I do know that there are still some heros. Maybe, just maybe, there's a few heros here. I wish I could know the outcome of this. I do know that I am, for the first time taking my chance by putting my faith in my knowledge, my intuition and my prayers that this will produce enough money for me to enjoy myself and help others who maybe can't.

My shares will hold and hold and I will be patient and do my due dilligence. I hope everyone here does what they feel right. I wish us all good fortune.

I really do enjoy reading this stuff. I have about $5,000 invested in this stock and already have had a $10,000 good time. Now THAT'S a great investment. IMO

Will, I don't mean to pick your post to attack you. I've heard the stories about Melvin and this seemed like a good time to make my mushy statement. Please don't take offense.

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man all this talk about star wars I had to add my two cents I collect alot of stuff too. Star Wars is one of them I have the entire star wars pewter set. I even have the emperial star destroyer pewter ship all in my glass case.Mind you they are only three inches high but they are expensive buggers. But my main collection is metal diecast cars I have all the exotics. from the ford gt90 to saleen s7. My prized car is the dukes of hazard dodge charger. I also collect martial arts stuff. I think I got into that due to the fact that I took TAE KWON DO for four and a half years.

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these

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