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WinsumLosesum Member |
posted July 19, 2004 11:03
  
My order just filled for .0005. I had called Ameritrade, and the rep placed me on hold while the manager called the MM. While he was on hold with the MM, my order filled. So, not sure if the phone call did it, or it was just coincidence, but thought you should know that your recourse is to ask them to have a manager call the order in to the MM. And yes, they went through nite. [This message has been edited by WinsumLosesum (edited July 19, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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jonv Member |
posted July 19, 2004 11:06
Hey all. Take a second and go to Allstock's "off topic" forum and click on my post. I am trying to get some constructive feedback on another website my wife and I just launched and since I value everyone's opinion here, I figured you all would be great people to ask. ESPECIALLY women. Thanks all. IP: Logged |
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noahltl New Member |
posted July 19, 2004 11:22
From CMKX unofficial: alloymiken1 REMEMBER THE GAME -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just my opinion. IP: Logged |
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noahltl New Member |
posted July 19, 2004 11:29
Volume at 8 bil. Jeff still holding at 5 IP: Logged |
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slpj1960 Member |
posted July 19, 2004 11:40
tarq3, I just confirmed what you stated above and they told me that NITE usually gives them the best service. So I asked why if it isn;'t being filled with NITE, why it doesnt go to a MM that will fill it. I'm new at this, but it does seem to stink to me also, and it smells like "fish" to me. IP: Logged |
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richnessforeveryon1 Member |
posted July 19, 2004 11:50
I don't believe one minute in the naked short selling theory... Why ?????? Read last PR from Ison I copied you below... My small finger says me after to have read all that was written here that Wallace must be very very close to the truth... I do not await large things from CMKX otherwise today the price would have already increase a lot...... ONLY MY OWN OPINION...TAKE IT AS SUCH PLEASE. Reuters
The surge in new additions appears to be triggered by a crackdown this spring by U.S. regulators on the stock trading tactic known as naked short-selling. Short-sellers make their money by borrowing shares and then selling them, hoping the stock price falls. If it does, they buy them back at the lower price, return them to the lender, and pocket the difference. In a naked short-sale, the trader sells shares without actually borrowing them. The tactic, practiced for years by crooked traders and brokers across the world, can be highly profitable for those involved, and can devastate a company's share price. The controversy over the Berlin listings and the naked shorting allegations, dubbed "Stockgate," has snowballed since it surfaced this spring. John Heine, a spokesman for the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (News - Websites) , would not say whether the agency was investigating the matter or not. The SEC passed a series of rules beginning in April that effectively bans naked short selling in the United States. And while no regulators have proven that naked shorting is occurring in Germany, some companies aren't so sure. Beverage holding company Hansen Natural Corp. (NasdaqSC:HANS - News) said on Friday it saw no reason for the recent decline in its stock price and is investigating the unauthorized listing of its stock on the Berlin-Bremen exchange. The company said its common stock is listed there without its consent, and is seeking a delisting. Isonics Corp. (NasdaqSC:ISON - News) and Miravant Medical Technologies (OTC BB:MRVT.OB - News) were among the more than 20 companies in recent weeks to offer similar statements. Most of the U.S. companies recently added to the Berlin-Bremen are listed on the American Stock Exchange or are over-the-counter stocks with small market capitalization. These are the kind of stocks that are easier to roil, and where a small amount of trading can lead to large fluctuations in share prices. Some financial experts believe the U.S. ban on naked shorting has pushed the practice to places beyond the SEC's reach. "Every time a government has tried to crack down on this type of thing in one location, it tends to migrate offshore where it's obviously much harder to regulate," said Lynn Stout, a professor of securities regulation at the University of California, Los Angeles. FOREIGN EXCHANGE Joerg Walter, Berlin-Bremen's Chief Executive, said that in his 10 years with the exchange he has not seen a single case of naked short-selling. "Naked short-selling, as it happens sometimes, is not possible in Germany," Walter said, adding that the country has strict rules against the practice. Listing a company without its consent is legal in Germany. In the case of the Berlin-Bremen, a broker will call the exchange and ask to trade a company. The exchange verifies that the stock is listed on another exchange and is in compliance with the rules there before it can begin trading, said Berlin-Bremen spokesperson, Petra Greif. Greif said the exchange does not inform the company that they are trading, and instead leaves that up to the brokers that added them. But Dave Gentry, an investor relations representative for several U.S. companies, said nobody told his clients that they were trading on the Berlin-Bremen. "That was a surprise to us," Gentry said, echoing sentiments from dozens of executives and financial experts wondering how companies were not told of their listing there. Gentry, president of the Aurelius Consultant Group, said four companies that he represents are listed on the exchange, and so far, getting the trades to stop has been difficult. One client, a small biomedical company named Genesis Bioventures Inc. (AMEX:GBI - News), has seen its stock price cut in half since it was added to the Berlin exchange in April. "Whether GBI's stock fall was related to the Berlin Stock Exchange, we can't be sure," Gentry said. "But it looks like there has been some manipulative activity."
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A-R- New Member |
posted July 19, 2004 11:51
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Money_Penny Member |
posted July 19, 2004 11:57
I see Wallace's back-up is starting to show up again with slightly modified name (must have gotten banned). I wouldn't be surprised to see our friend with the annoying laugh back as well. Get ready for those "CMKX is a scam" and "Get out while you can" threads again. I don't know about you, but I'm ready for a fight if they want one. Bring it on, suckers!!! [This message has been edited by Money_Penny (edited July 19, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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richnessforeveryon1 Member |
posted July 19, 2004 12:03
Now my opinion is that all this US companies take this as an excuse for explain their pps decline..... If naket short selling was a problem you would have already intended some to speak about for a long time and not only since 3 months....... Soon they will explain us (to their shareholders) that the last decline in the major markets comes from the naked short selling...... If this would be true that would be the end of capitalism because a powerful group or a powerful country could ruin the saving in a whole continent Make a little go your brain... AGAIN MY OWN OPINION [This message has been edited by richnessforeveryon1 (edited July 19, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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ali Member |
posted July 19, 2004 12:09
With you Money! Wallace, u wont get a palace until you get in CMKX as soon as u can 
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noahltl New Member |
posted July 19, 2004 12:10
Repost from another board adoddere -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I know we have no idea how many CMKX shares are actually outstanding. But for the sake of argument, let's say 5 billion, a number I hope will turn out to be high once the dust settles. At that level, the 7.5M shares of UCAD would be distributed at a rate of .0015 shares of UCAD for every 1 share of CMKX. In other words, CMKX shareholders would receive 1500 shares of UCAD for every 1 Million shares of CMKX they own. At today's present quotes (CMKX @ .0005; UCAD @ 4.25), that would mean that a $500 CMKX investment would return $6375 worth of UCAD. Someone must REALLY think that there are a ton of outstanding shares of CMKX issued, or people would be buying CMKX like crazy at the moment. Unless there are more than 50 billion shares outstanding, the deal still results in a gain to CMKX holders who buy at .0005. One thing is sure, it will be a lot of fun to see this all shake out, win or lose. IMO, for that alone, it's worth the dollars I've put into CMKX. IP: Logged |
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tahoechris Member |
posted July 19, 2004 12:14
theres honestly no way that there is 5 billion shares, imho its a bit higher than that, not sure how much, but that figure is way too low. IP: Logged |
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ali Member |
posted July 19, 2004 12:15
With you Money! Wallace, u wont get a palace until you get in CMKX as soon as u can
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richnessforeveryon1 Member |
posted July 19, 2004 12:16
quote: Money_Penny...... [This message has been edited by richnessforeveryon1 (edited July 19, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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Wallace#1 Member |
posted July 19, 2004 12:33
JBCak - Money_Penny, I do not believe in banning someone who is voicing an opinion about a security or it's management. You two, however, keep attacking me personally as though you have some kind of vendetta. Then, I just might go to Allstocks and ask you two be muzzled. The people on Allstocks know what my qualifications are and probably suspect I might be able to provide important opinions and information. If either of you wishes to continue your nonesense,then, I will find it very difficult to keep ignoring your mental abilities. Obviously, no one else on this thread has the guts to tell you to stop the CRAP! It doesn't matter to you two what I say - positive, negative or neither. You just want to play kid games. Ali, suggest you do not join with tweedle dum and tweedle dee(aka Jeff & Mutt, aka Mutt & Jeff). [This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited July 19, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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bill1352 Member |
posted July 19, 2004 12:35
wallace & richness do not believe naked shorting is hurting pps of any companies....richness says he thinks this way because its illegal and then says use your brain.hmmm i wonder why we had enron, tyco, global and others wasn't that illegal too. now i give them the right to believe and say what they want...its a free country...but if i use my brain then i can only believe something stinks ....first...the o/s is probaly 400 billion with 100 billion in the treasury...second UC seems a bit arogant thus i would guess he would not want his company public or not to be controled by anyone..shareholder or mm thus i believe at least 50% of the o/s is gone to him & the insiders...this isn't saying he wants to scam shareholders, he just doesn't want them voting against him...the car would probably not fly in shareholders eyes for example...so by looking at it from this idea and looking at daily volume you have to wonder...i do not have access to what is buy & what is sell but others here do and 75% is on the buy side...200 billion or least open to public trading would go very fast at these volume numbers...i bet between allstock posters and friends there are 5 billion held just on this board then you've got the rb board and freinds, and just the public in general...with a 5 billion a day average and a 75% buy rate you have 3.75 billion a day buying say only 2 billion a day were holding it would only be 100 days to wipe out 200 billion and this volume has gone on a lot longer then 100 days...is the naked short enough to get the pps over .01...probably not but from .0001 to .01 you sure cant call the company a scam IP: Logged |
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noahltl New Member |
posted July 19, 2004 12:37
Did I read richness correctly? Is he talking to his little finger now? LOL IP: Logged |
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Wallace#1 Member |
posted July 19, 2004 12:40
Bill1352 As far as I can recall, I never said what you just claimed above. As a matter of fact, I believe I did say I was not sure, but that it might be possible that the MMs could be naked short selling the stock. IP: Logged |
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bill1352 Member |
posted July 19, 2004 12:45
wallace...sorry...that coment was directed at richness not you...in fact you & i have agreed as much as disagreed on this stock..again i'm sorry i did not explain myself there correctly IP: Logged |
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bill1352 Member |
posted July 19, 2004 12:48
richnessforeveryon1 New Member posted July 19, 2004 11:50 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't believe one minute in the naked short selling theory... Why ?????? IP: Logged |
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Wallace#1 Member |
posted July 19, 2004 12:48
Bill, It's already forgotten. Don't worry about it. IP: Logged |
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sarki316 Member |
posted July 19, 2004 12:54
The Green Baron is making a strong "Watch" recommendation on CMKX. We are not recommending our members buy CMKX at this time, although that may change in the near future. We are only suggesting our members place CMKX on their radar screens for a possible breakout in the days and weeks ahead. CMKX is one of the most heavily traded stocks on Wall Street right now, averaging several "billion" in volume each day. It is one the most traded and most followed stocks we have ever encountered. There are also several market rumors from what we consider reliable sources, who are indicating there may be a huge run up on the share price in the days and weeks ahead. Evergreen Marketing, Inc. [parent company of The Green Baron] will be flying a senior executive to Denver, Colorado during the week of July 12th on a fact finding mission to meet with the CEO of CMKM Diamonds. Evergreen Marketing has also offered CMKM Diamonds a Green Baron CEO Webcast. We will notify our members immediately if or when a CEO Webcast for CMKM has been scheduled. All CEO Webcasts are posted on the "CEO Webcast" page of this website. At our meeting in Denver with the CMKX CEO, as well as with other sources, we will do our best to confirm share structure and diamond finds/yields. One "rumor" of particular interest involves an approximate 50 cent per share tender offer or dividend currently in the works. The current share price is .0003. Now you see why this could possibly be "The Stock Play of a Lifetime." It is still early in the game but things could change rapidly. We urge our members to watch CMKX closely over the coming days for any indication the rumors are true and about to come to fruition. One such positive indicator would be the Market Maker JEFF leaving the offer, which we anticipate would happen by the end of the week. If even 1/2 the rumors we are trying to confirm are true, CMKX may indeed prove to be the stock play of a lifetime as well as possibly helping rebound the penny market after its 3 year slump. The financial windfall the hordes of CMKX shareholders would reap from a run up on this stock would no doubt have a positive "ripple effect" across the penny stock sector. We will do our best to uncover as much Due Diligence on CMKX as fast as possible and alert our members immediately if and when we confirm our information. In the meantime, watch CMKX closely and stay tuned for CMKX updates in our Green Baron mailings and on this website. Since at this time CMKX is only a Green Baron "Stock to Watch" we will continue to monitor developments and inform our members for only as long as the stock offers our members an opportunity for profit. We may feature CMKX as a Green Baron stock play at some time in the future if certain developments occur IP: Logged |
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bill1352 Member |
posted July 19, 2004 12:55
true is wallace i'm glad your here....for every wwjd we need a wallace#1...if everyone only say good in a stock we would all go broke....which is why i'm stuck with 250,000 shares of pccl at .0043 and its at .0018..i only saw good and everyone else agreed IP: Logged |
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ali Member |
posted July 19, 2004 13:00
Shareholder Speculation of the effect of the PR last nigh http://dallas-texas.net/StockTalkDonations/stockholder.htm UCAD @ 4.50 today...sounds cool IP: Logged |
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noahltl New Member |
posted July 19, 2004 13:01
I don't doubt that there is 400 bil naked shorted, but those shares won't be getting any dividends issued by CMKX. They will only issue to those outstanding shares that were authorized. That number could very well be only 5 bil. I really wouldn't be surprised if all of the authorized shares have been bought back by UC. [This message has been edited by noahltl (edited July 19, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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JBCak47 Member |
posted July 19, 2004 13:13
Noah, If that is the case, that only non-naked shorted shares get dividends, how would it ever be possible to determine WHICH shares are the orginal issued shares versus which shares where naked shorted? If the shares from CMKX that were orginally issued,and were traded back and forth, with each trading day more and more naked short shares being added to the float, who's to say that the any shares bought back by CMKX are not some naked short shares and orginal issued shares, while some investors may have a mixture of orginal and naked shorted shares. The question arises as to CMKX being able to figure out HOW MANY shares are naked shorts, but can they determine WHICH shares are naked or orginal issue? Legally I think this would be a huge problem as some shareholders who bought in at the same time as others would not receieve dividend shares while others would. This could hardly be considered fair or ethical in anyway. Besides my 330k share purchase the other day may be orginal issue shares, while the purchase before that could be naked shorts. In either case SOMEONE is going to have to provide this dividend, if one is given to us. -John- IP: Logged |
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prdponce Member |
posted July 19, 2004 13:21
tell me that there is no manipulation. http://thomson.finance.lycos.com/lycos/iwatch/cgi-bin/iw_ticker?ticker=CMKX IP: Logged |
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XchangeMODE Member |
posted July 19, 2004 13:24
RICHNESS is talking from his little finger to his BRAIN ! MY Advice is : o.k. seriously IP: Logged |
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JBCak47 Member |
posted July 19, 2004 13:28
Lol, I have just been called a mutt  From this moment foward Wallace, I won't say a word to you... (rolling my eyes)... EOM. IP: Logged |
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singlemom Member |
posted July 19, 2004 13:44
What's your take on this? Is this like tipping your hand? It seem to make sense that the MM's would know how much of an advantage they have if they know that folks have their shares on "hold" all the way up to say $1. ____________________________________________ CANCEL YOUR GTC's -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When you put in a GTC order, the MM's see it. They coordinate their buys/sells GTC to control and manage an effective market (this of course is when they are doing things legally). Some are saying to put in a GTC for $1 a share. Understand this.....if they see 100 million shares with a GTC on them, they know they can short those 100 million shares all the way up until they get close to the dollar price per share. Then when it gets close to the dollar pps, they have to cover. Then and only then! So your GTC order for $1 a share, helps them to see and plan their naked short activities. DON'T DO IT!. Cancel your GTC orders and only put them in WHEN YOU'RE READY TO DUMP SHARES. Don't let them see [font=Verdana]TEXT[/font] plan, let them be left in the dark!
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Wallace#1 Member |
posted July 19, 2004 13:51
singlemom, Excellent point. Got to go help my neighbor now. IP: Logged |
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i'm all in Member |
posted July 19, 2004 13:53
anyone daytrading this from the erratic swings from 4 to 5 or is it too clogged? IP: Logged |
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Money_Penny Member |
posted July 19, 2004 13:54
Wallace, Read my post again and tell me exactly in which part of it I attacked you. If you read it correctly, it was directed at richness and that "muhaha" clown, not you. You have not said anything terribly negative and unsubstantiated today and yesterday, so no need for such action against you. BTW, you said something positive about this stock? - I must have missed that. If you did, then you have my praise! You suggested yesterday that you just bought 10 million shares at 0.0002. Did you? If yes, great buy, since nobody else was able to buy at that level. Can you share your secret with us? My take on it is that you weren't able to buy at your pre-set limit of 0.0002 and now you're upset because this stock is gonna skyrocket with everybody on board, except you. If you're willing to stick around anyways and add value to our discussions, please be my guest, but the minute I see you starting to be your old self again, I will be ALL OVER YOU and you can take that to the bank! (but you'll have to stand in line because all the CMKX investors are in front of you cashing in on their investment). Bottom line: I'll stay outta your hair if you stay outta mine, simple as that! Have a nice (hair) day! [This message has been edited by Money_Penny (edited July 19, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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singlemom Member |
posted July 19, 2004 14:04
I'm not sure I understand, it's 97% Non I-Watch (which is usually the smallest amount when I have looked) and it usually has a higher institutional/retail percentage, so does that mean that these are public investors? If so, where is the manipulation? Or is it mostly MM's and if so, how can you tell? ------------------------------------ quote: -------------------------------------------- IP: Logged |
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richnessforeveryon1 Member |
posted July 19, 2004 14:58
quote: Ah yes...so you allow only positive thoughts here.....its the way I understand this message boards...... [This message has been edited by richnessforeveryon1 (edited July 19, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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richnessforeveryon1 Member |
posted July 19, 2004 15:22
Sorry guys...the clown is back like I forgot something. In this deal 'let us name it so' its only UCAD's pps that will raise and not CMKX... Why ???? I let you with this question so your brain can work a little today.... I guess I will read soon here the wrong answer..... IP: Logged |
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FasttrackerMo Member |
posted July 19, 2004 15:26
You have to be the kidding? Just stop! We don't want to hear from you. I thought I made that clear on your lame thread you started. You are wishy washy and I can't even understand your english. You points have nothing solid to them. GO AWAY. We don't want basher or pumpers. Just solid facts period. IP: Logged |
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Money_Penny Member |
posted July 19, 2004 15:32
You, too, richness are encouraged to post your opinions, positive or negative. Just make sure that the content does not mirror some of your last posts before your disappearance...otherwise the police chief and his detectives will have to come out again and enforce the law, LOL. I'm not trying to be a smart a$$ here but I know that there are hundreds, if not thousands, of people reading this thread every day, and in case there is some bashing going on, I want everyone to know about it. There are so many "kids" out there who have invested a lot of their money in this stock, and I don't want them to fall prey to a basher, so I have made it my mission to 1.) point out that bashing is going on and 2.) confront the culprit. There are many pesimists on this board but there are equally many optimists as well and we therefore have some sort of equilibrium of opinions which I don't see on other boards. That's why I'm here and I'm here to stay. I want the truth and nothing but the truth. I don't want pumping and i don't want bashing. Post good DD and back up your opinions with facts, and nobody will say a word to you except "thank you". IP: Logged |
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HarryHar Member |
posted July 19, 2004 15:35
and the English skills do still come and go... IP: Logged |
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JBCak47 Member |
posted July 19, 2004 15:44
Richness is leaving As they say in Pakistan, Kushgwhar! (Wonderful day!) My money will be available Minyana~ I was expecting a little higher in PPS then what I have seen today however on the same note I shouldn't be surprised. I still see another factor comming into play with new shareholders money comming in within the next week or so (from the races?!?). I plan on putting a buy order in for 1,750k shares at .0004 Who knows if it will fill or not! lol, I am hoping for it to! .0001/2/3 I think are totally out of the equation. Even four maybe a stretch however does anyone see a big shake comming soon? There are still some investors that have 75-100 MILLION shares, while others may even have 200,300 Million. There are plenty of people who have 5-40 Million shares. I can see a big shake or at least a dip. Maybe .0003 isn't out of the question??? Any thoughts? Remember with Qbid, they did a few big shakes to get some of the people who held enormous amounts of shares to sell off... I remember it at least (lol, I have held EVERY share since Feb. 2004 !). Talk about nail biting,hehehhe... The anticipation of whatever is going to happen is so much fun !!! -John IP: Logged |
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richnessforeveryon1 Member |
posted July 19, 2004 15:47
quote: Thats the point...... [This message has been edited by richnessforeveryon1 (edited July 19, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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Money_Penny Member |
posted July 19, 2004 15:47
Seems the MMs are having their way today, as predicted. What's the L2 look like? IP: Logged |
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noahltl New Member |
posted July 19, 2004 15:52
quote: If UC has repurchased all of his OS, that's all he has to do. The stock that is in the company is the real shares. I think that is why he issued a dividend, he knew he already had all of the authorized shares back in. No OS, No expense. Now, that is not bad for us. The brokerages will be looking to the MM's to provide 'dividend' shares of UCAD. That means they will either have to buy millions of shares UCAD to provide us naked shorts with our dividend, or buy back all of the shares we hold, at premium prices. Either way, we win, UC wins, and the MM's lose. That's just my opinion based on UC issuing dividends on a company that has no marketable product profit being produced. IP: Logged |
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Money_Penny Member |
posted July 19, 2004 15:52
Richnessforeveryon1 said: "Go away her.....this play will cost you only money...." There he goes again (I can hear the sirens now). IP: Logged |
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Money_Penny Member |
posted July 19, 2004 15:54
Noah, I'm with you now. This makes sense. IP: Logged |
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slpj1960 Member |
posted July 19, 2004 15:58
I have had a buy order in for 2 million all day at .0004 and it hasnt filled. I think that there are even more people watching this now if that is possible and a shake will be bought up in my opinion. IP: Logged |
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bill1352 Member |
posted July 19, 2004 15:59
ok...lets guess how many millions trade today after market close....my guess 100 million IP: Logged |
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bill1352 Member |
posted July 19, 2004 16:03
am i wrong here...the market closes at 4 right? 100 million guess was way off more like 4 or 5 hundred million IP: Logged |
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Money_Penny Member |
posted July 19, 2004 16:03
On commando, a .0004 sale goes through at 15:59:44. Those b@stards will have to pay sooner or later, but definitely before 8/20 .IP: Logged |
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HarryHar Member |
posted July 19, 2004 16:03
If UC has purchased all of the float, and he is not willing to sell any of it since he wants to take the company private, how will the MM's purchase shares to cover the shorts that we possibly own? Ideally, I'd hope that Urban owns a majority of it, but that there is float in the open market so that the MM's have shares to purchase to cover the shorts that are around. Do you guys see this as a problem? How could this be solved? ==== Also, if there is a tender offer, can people refuse? What happens then? For example if the tender offer is .20 per share, and I don't want to sell it at that price, what are my options? THanks. IP: Logged |
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