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noahltl New Member |
posted July 21, 2004 11:09
From another board:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's is what we have as of 10:25 am. Another huge imbalance.
MM's bought 566,681,665 shares on 86 trades. Buy versus sells - - - 74% to 26%
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tahoechris Member |
posted July 21, 2004 11:14
hey xchange, don't type in all caps, I dont even read your posts because all caps is so annoying. Between you and diana I hate people thinking it gives them more attention. IP: Logged |
pharmdman Member |
posted July 21, 2004 11:17
quote: Aplastic Anemia isn't a form of leukemia. That page refers to MDS being a pre-leukimic condition that can convert to leukemia. MDS is not related to Aplastic Anemia though. Just a clarification..... IP: Logged |
noahltl New Member |
posted July 21, 2004 11:17
Further from another board: gerbs HOOLD, HOOOLD, HOOOOOOLD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If we all hold on to our shares with a death grip, in time, the MMs will succumb to the realization that in order to attract the shares they need to cover their shorts, they will have to allow the pps to climb.
Time works against the MMs. They NEED to cover by a certain date. We DON'T NEED to sell by a certain date. Gerbs IP: Logged |
Brad Member |
posted July 21, 2004 11:18
This from Dr. Diamond on another board. Apparently he's having trouble following Sterling's double naked sharing theory. --------------------------------------- This is wild! http://cmkx.********s35.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1090363677 NSS = Naked Short Shares Sterlings Scenario suggests two 500 Billion inventories as a mirror: This totals 1 trillion NSS = $15 billion – $250 million = $14,750,000,000 Scenario says: The MM’s have to get the NSS out of the market that they sold us and make them cease to exist. How? The scenario suggests $15 billion put back to wash out the old transactions and get the 1st NSS out of circulation. How? The scenario further suggests a boosting of the BID price to entice us to sell the NSS we are holding so they can be captured and extinguished. The explanation is that the levels of covering is pretended to be .10/.20/.30/.40/.50 The 1st shaking produces 100 billion NSS kicked lose and covered for a measly .10 each or a maximum of $10 billion paid for by the MM's and is used to cover 100 billion of the 1st inventory and exterminating the 100 billion of the 500 billion NSS of the 1st Inventory This makes the MM's $10 billion in the hole they paid out for the 100 billion shares of ours. Now to recoup that the scenario suggests that the MM's now will sell 100 billion of its own NSS from the 2nd Inventory to none other than themselves thus recouping the $10 billion they had to pay for our 100 billion NSS from the 1st Inventory. This makes sense: Pay $10 billion for our shares and dispose of them $10 billion plus $10 billion = Zero? Wrong = $20 billion Now the MM's are down $20 billion with the exception they just made $10 billion from themselves so they are actually only down $10 billion. But if you subtract the $10 billion they are down from the $15 billion they made as profit from the first inventory of NSS then they are actually still $5 billion ahead until you subtract the $250 million it took to buy the 2nd inventory which actually didn't cost them anything because they created NSS and sold them to themselves so they still made $250 million profit off the 2nd inventory and are still up a full $5 billion. So they have successfully disposed of 200 Billion of a trillion naked short shares and only 800 billion NSS to go. The MM's are looking real good. So let’s move it on up to the 2nd level of covering at .20. We sell another 100 billion at a rather low price of .20 each and the MM's get a real bargain at only $20 billion dollars for our 2nd batch of 100 billion NSS that they can now erase from the 1st inventory and can now duplicate the sell to themselves from the 2nd inventory as in the plan of the scenario for the $20 billion they had to spend on our 1st Inventory NSS and we can recalculate our totals. This makes sense: Pay $20 billion for our shares and dispose of them $20 billion plus $20 billion = Zero? Wrong = $40 billion Now the MM's are down $40 billion with the exception they just made $20 billion from themselves so they are actually only down $20 billion. But if you subtract the $5 billion they were up at the end of the 1st level of covering from the $20 billion they are down as a result of the 2nd level of covering from the first inventory of NSS then they are actually still only $15 billion down until you subtract the $250 million it took to buy the 2nd inventory which actually didn't cost them anything because they created NSS and sold them to themselves so they still made $250 million profit off the 2nd inventory. Now they remain at a cool "negative $15 billion" So they have successfully retired 400 Billion of a trillion naked short shares and only 600 billion NSS to go. As this scenario continues to unfold I believe it is obvious that: The same can be seen at .40 and .50 as the MM's would lose another $90 bilion dollars and set them in the hole according to this scenario only $135 billion dollars to retire 1 trillion NSS shares. I may have missed something that Sterling was saying so if I did please give me some input. If you create NSS and sell them to yourself then you have no expense. But you don’t really have anything either. It is all profit, but it is also nothing. It doesn't matter if you pay .0005 or .0050 or .05 for the NSS, because you are selling NSS with real cusips to yourself that you created out of thin air to dispose of. You own 500 billion NSS that cost you $250 million that you didn't have to pay because all of it was profit to you. So you got nothing for nothing and that is exactly what it is, NOTHING! You can't sell something to yourself for $10 billion (or nothing) and take that $10 billion (or nothing) as in the 2nd Inventory and therefore wipe out a $10 billion dollar expense to cover 100 billion NSS you had to pay out in cash to shareholders and dispose of them from existence in the 1st Inventory. Sterling, I love you man, but you need to make this a lot plainer brother. I know you know better than this so I must have missed something somewhere. Anyone that knows the answer to the riddle please chime in. Somebody help me! Dr.D IP: Logged |
VNGNTN1 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 11:21
TW I tried on OFFTOPIC yesterday and it was removed unless there were server problems at the time. - - - - - NSS THEORY(a test) I Placed these column headings on paper Trade size Trade price ASK(sell BID(buy) NSS Inventory CASH(+/-) --------- I then ran some trades down the rows(different trade sizes,different bid /ask combinations) --------- At NO TIME regardless of NSS position was my CASH negative. ========= Anyone care to reconstruct this scenario and comment ? I'm not doing this to to disprove Naked Shorting, Only satify mayself that it doesn't matter and the key is in the "SPREAD" VAN [This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited July 21, 2004).] IP: Logged |
Money_Penny Member |
posted July 21, 2004 11:21
"They NEED to cover by a certain date. We DON'T NEED to sell by a certain date." That line is worth repeating over and over again! IP: Logged |
noahltl New Member |
posted July 21, 2004 11:22
Here's some good DD and a little math to wake up your brain this morning: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://cmkxcafe.********s34.com/index.cgi?board=cat&action=display&num=1090385232 By: itsallaboutthemoney6 A DIVIDEND OF 7,500,000 SHARES OF UCAD. DIVIDED BY 500,000,000,000 AUTH. SHARES OF CMKX. 7,500,000 / 500,000,000,000 = .000015 SHARES UCAD. .000015 SHARES UCAD FOR EVERY 1 SHARE OF CMKX YOU OWN. .000015 UCAD * 1,000,000 CMKX = 15 SH. DIV. PER 1 MILLION.
100% / 5% = A MULTIPLIER OF 20 CURRENT - UCAD SHARE PRICE = $4.75 PPS. $4.75 PPS * 7,500,000 SHARES = $35,625,000.00 USD. TOTAL CURRENT CLAIM VALUE FOR CMKX = $35,625,000.00 USD. * 20 = $712,500,000.00 USD. $712,500,000.00 USD. / 500,000,000,000 CMKX A/S = CMKX PPS OF $.001425 PER SHARE WITH AN A/S OF 500B. WE ARE CURRENTLY UNDERVALUED BY 300%
THE O/S IS IMMATERIAL AT THIS POINT.
WHICH WILL BE DISTRIBUTED PRO RATA TO ALL CMKX SHARE HOLDERS OF RECORD ON 8/31/04. 40,000,000,000 / 500,000,000,000 = .08 SHARES (CIM). .08 SHARES (CIM) FOR EVERY 1 SHARE OF CMKX YOU OWN. .08 (CIM) * 1,000,000 CMKX = 80,000 SH. DIV. PER 1 MILLION. I FEEL THINGS ARE COMING TOGETHER JUST FINE SORRY BASHERS I AM LOADING UP THE TRUCK IN THE A.M.! MM'S ARE SCREWED. THE MATH IS THERE PEOPLE, BUY BUY BUY! STRIKE. (((((( GO CMKX )))))) IP: Logged |
kguts11 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 11:23
Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't sure. I just glanced at it and posted the link. I'm actually not in the least familiar with that particular disease. Kev
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TradingWizard Member |
posted July 21, 2004 11:25
quote: Thanks VAN, ------------------ IP: Logged |
Brad Member |
posted July 21, 2004 11:29
This seems to be recurring theme with all the boards. http://1millionaire.********s31.com/index.cgi?board=DRD&action=display&num=1090419523
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noahltl New Member |
posted July 21, 2004 11:38
Good morning everybody. Gotta leave here and head for the fair with all of the heat and humidity, noise and confusion, children yelling, and hawkers barking their wares, dust and dirt, winners and losers. Wait a minute that's no different than it was in here last night. LOL No wonder I like it there. See ya all this evening. IP: Logged |
JBCak47 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 11:43
WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!! WAIT!!!!!!!!!!
So we are getting both UCAD AND CIM??? I know we will, hopefully, get the UCAD but I never realizied CIM shares as well... -John- IP: Logged |
VNGNTN1 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 11:44
NOAH I think there is a flaw in that logic. The value was set at time of agreement regardless of dividend date at a value; and the fact that UCAD is moving up does not affect the "LAST SALE" value. I do think that this particular deal transferred greater value to UCAD. The question is how many on this board will follow it? UCAD is pricy for those here and the financial don't indicate a pps either. I have a limit order in for $3.00 VAN IP: Logged |
pharmdman Member |
posted July 21, 2004 11:45
quote: LMAO... welcome to the here and now, JB! Better late than never, I suppose.... But I know what you're thinking.... you're thinking, "how many shares of CIM and UCAD can I trade for 1 million IQD?".... IP: Logged |
Garfield1981 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 11:48
Can we see 0.0006 by the end of today? IP: Logged |
JBCak47 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 11:53
Taken from The Simpons: This is a CUBE... WHOA!!! Slow down egg head... SO WE WILL BE GETTING CIM SHARES???? Okay, so perhaps my mind has been clouded this morning, however Pharm I will ask you again, my friend, if we hold cmkx shares on 8/31/04 we will be getting a dividend of CIM shares PLUS UCAD??? Didn't cmkx owners already recieve CIM shares? I am still confused (does that surprise any of us here ) Wow UCAD AND CIM shares,wow... not to shabby... lol...
Or visit the Saint Augusteins Aligator Pharm heheheh... that place was a trip,heheh... Don't mind me, I already did a wake and bake, a pigeon stole, no, mugged me last night. I have been named as an instigator in last nights broo-haha... You know when I was in second grade, a group of us got tape across our mouths, duct tape, for talking (catholic school)...lol... puts things into perspective, when we went home and told out parents, they laughed at us and said it was our own fault it's true... Too bad they couldn't even do 10% of what was done to us, and what was done to us was 10% of how the catholic schools worked 30 years before me,lol... -John- -John- IP: Logged |
JBCak47 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 11:58
Pharm, let me tell you, the day CMKX hits for me, Those dinars become MINE! For 9000 you get 10 MILLION dinars... for 18k you get 20 Million Now I am not saying I will blow 18k however if CMKX hit for me, I'd blow 9k for 10 Million dinars... Even if it only went to one cent, 100k in CASH... and that would make it just 1/33rd of the value of the Dinar BEFORE our second Invasion... hmmmmmm....
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pharmdman Member |
posted July 21, 2004 12:01
JB, Yes. You will be receiving CIM and UCAD. If you are a shareholder as of 8/20/04, you will receive UCAD at a future, undisclosed-as-yet date. If you are a shareholder as of 8/31/04, you will receive CIM at a prorated amount. Granted, there is plenty of room for disappointment, but just hang tight for now. BTW, the hot tub is fantastic! I've damn near turned myself into stew a few times! ... and I'm only a heavy hour from Disney..... If we want to do a bash with the rat, I'm in! IP: Logged |
JBCak47 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 12:16
Sarki... WTF is that .25 mark, or even the .01 mark... I have Dinars waiting for me that need to be bought! Pharm has plans too, like a super delux hot tub, diamond encrusted dials... His car of choice? 1967 VW Hippy Van. Complete with small bed in the back. With also Disco Ball and sound system. His Plate: QBIDMNY, bumper sticker: GOT CMKX? TeenTrader needs his suped uped Lexus, with diamond rimms that spin backwards. Diamonds everywhere, on the dials, seat belts, hell UCAD will mine the gold for his seatbelts, along with CIM, CMKX provides the Diamonds... Teen Trader also is looking into buying a 'HOG'... Not just any typical motorcycle. He wants the one that is so big, so bulky, the one where you have to stretch your arms SO HIGH UP that you devolp back pain after 10 mins of riding... He is also looking for a model with a little side pod. TeenTraders plate: DMNDNGRLS for the Lexus
Noah, The Commish of Allstocks. He needs a Bretta with diamond tipped bullets. Capable of piercing the thickest kimberlite protected vests.heheh... MoneyPenny... Soon to change his screen name to MoneyDiamonds... His car of choice? No hog for him, He gets a Sea Ray Amberjack boat... very nice. Name of the Boat? Fishin' fo' Diamonds ============================================= P.S. I still beleive in humor. This board can get rather dry and talking about O/S day after day after day... lol... we need some humor or we will get very moody. IP: Logged |
pharmdman Member |
posted July 21, 2004 12:21
quote: VW? LMAO!.... more like an Aston Martin Vanquish.... IP: Logged |
Upside Member |
posted July 21, 2004 12:21
John, Sarki posts the same b/s on the QBID thread. Claims to have runners on the floor of the exchanges telling him they're both going to at least a penny today. The guys a joke. IP: Logged |
JBCak47 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 12:27
Sarki was almost right about qbid today but then again... going from .0064 to .009 versus from .0005 to .01 is a HUGE difference... lol... -John- The guy is nuts, the profit taking that would occur,lol... I mean to do a jump like that, .0005 to .01 lol... Nice to dream though... -John- IP: Logged |
JBCak47 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 12:32
I forgot about upside... With has share of diamond money, He buys himself nice little Vespa. Don't knock the Vespa... The ability to get in and out of tight places can only be achivied with the Vespa. Why the Vespa? When everyone else is sitting in Traffic at 12:45 pm, Upside quickly weaves in and out, gets home with his lunch and is able to catch a quick run up on qbid, day trading and making some profit he would otherwise have missed sitting in an SUV (TeenTrader misses that run up)... Upsides Plate: DWNSIDE Alas, Vespa Scooters are inexpensive. So he buys himself a nice little home, Maybe Arizona, or New Mexico if the heat is too much. You see Upside has a plan. He knows that when stocks hit big, everyone goes to Vegas. He situates himself close enough to Vegas so he can attend all parties when his stock hits big. -John- IP: Logged |
pharmdman Member |
posted July 21, 2004 12:37
I think I see Booty driving the Oscar Meyer Wienermobile.... LOL... with the license plate... "Pickle 1" or "Bty Qwst" (ok, we all know he's gonna get me back for that one... ) IP: Logged |
Brad Member |
posted July 21, 2004 12:44
Response from Dr. D on question regarding shares. --------------------------------------------
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Leardron Member |
posted July 21, 2004 12:50
quote: Well I can vouch for this. I have had a sell order in at .0005 since yesterday and they haven't processed it yet. I see Billions of shares going at .0005 but they can't squeeze in my measley little 6.5 million shares. Seems a bit rediculous to me. [This message has been edited by Leardron (edited July 21, 2004).] IP: Logged |
sarki316 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 13:01
Look I am not her to talk crap. I think that CMKX will hit the penny range. I thought it would be today, but I was wrong. Look after all these transaction cmkx has done in the past days tells me it's leading into something BIG!!!!! I WAS RIGHT ON QBID THOUGH gotta give me that. LAUNCH DATE IN SEPTEMBER.
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tahoechris Member |
posted July 21, 2004 13:06
CMKX right now, doesn't have the value to hit a penny, imo. I own a bunch, and am trying to pick up some more, but I think we have a long while before it hits a penny. Yes all the dividends are awesome news, and we might get some even better news in the next month, but after all that, we need diamonds! [This message has been edited by tahoechris (edited July 21, 2004).] IP: Logged |
kevy0899 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 13:16
I am new to trading and was hoping for some input. I had a GTC sell order for CMKX sitting for over a month at $1. It was cancelled on Monday with no explanation by ETRADE. I placed the sell order again for $1 on Monday and Tuesday and the same thing happend. If they were canceling it because it was too far away from the current price, why wouldn't they have done it a month ago? Is this behavior strange to anyone? Any thoughts would be appreciated to this beginner. Thanks. IP: Logged |
JBCak47 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 13:30
The Great Sultan of Pharmania wrote: "think I see Booty driving the Oscar Meyer Wienermobile.... LOL... with the license plate... "Pickle 1" or "Bty Qwst""
Imagine the Wiener Mobile, with large Phalic hot dog sticking out the front of the Car with the words "The Q-Televesion Network" heheheh... Booty Quest... How could I forget. I think Pharm hit the nail on the head. totally BTY QWST... heheheh... Booty would also buy a Jet Ski, SeaDoo I would tend to think. On the Back it says "Chase This Up" Sarki when I say you are nuts I mean it in a loving, pumper way...heheh... A penny? Well anything is possible, I don't see a penny buy next week however, but who am I? You were right about Qbid... so who knows,lol... Something has been up with this stock since May or so, in my opinion... way to many gray areas to figure out, thats why I am stil buying more. I have an order in for 370k at .0003 Perhaps it will fill, probably won't but I have seen MM's do these games before in the last 8 or 9 months I have been watching the stocks... ============================================ Its 1:30 pm. Time for a 'smoke' break. I also need lunch... Maybe Ham and Swiss with mayo s/p? Yeah, the usuall... ============================================= FYI I plan on EVENTUALLY getting a boat (provided I have the money)... I am thinking of calling it 'Diamonds in the Smoke'... ============================================= -John- P.S. Every day I feel more and more confidant of CMKX! IP: Logged |
Upside Member |
posted July 21, 2004 13:42
originally posted by pharmdman: quote: Back in my single days I actually looked into being a wienermobile driver. Not a bad gig for a single person. It paid around 30k a year to drive a hot dog around the country. All hotels were paid for and there was a clothing and food allowance too. Nice way to see the country, from a hot dog. IP: Logged |
pharmdman Member |
posted July 21, 2004 13:44
quote: Seems to me that would be a one-eyed view of the country! IP: Logged |
Upside Member |
posted July 21, 2004 13:46
originally posted by pharmdman: quote: Now that's funny! LOL! IP: Logged |
VNGNTN1 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 13:57
quote: Ameritrade uses a different dictionary than the regular market. GTC means until YOU Cancel: They interpret it good thill end of following month.(YEA its a pain) VAN IP: Logged |
Money_Penny Member |
posted July 21, 2004 13:59
John, I couldn't stand the thought of you having more shares than me (lol), so I wired some money this morning and put in an order for 1.22 million at .0004. I hope it goes through! IP: Logged |
Justhis1ce Member |
posted July 21, 2004 14:08
Good afternoon everyone, I was hoping to find out how I can obtain a verication of CMKX stock in my name. Secondly, how can money wired to a broker be ready for use on the same day of transfer? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you. ------------------ IP: Logged |
Brad Member |
posted July 21, 2004 14:12
quote: Call your broker or look up your account online to verify stock in your name. They'll tell you whether you have it or not. As far as wiring goes, I can speak for Ameritrade, as you long as you go to your bank and wire the money they consider that an immediate electronic cash trasfer of funds and are available immediately for trading from brokerage account. IP: Logged |
Brad Member |
posted July 21, 2004 14:14
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HarryHar Member |
posted July 21, 2004 14:23
What Dr D says earlier in this page is not true. The MM's don't have to up the PPS until people are willing to sell their REAL shares in order for them to cover. All they have to do is create more naked shares, move the price up and sell the new naked shares. For example, they create 50 billion more naked shares. They move the price from today's .0005 to .0006 to .0007 all the way to .001 in two days (for example). The whole way up, they are selling these shares, and sell the most at .001 with MM-paid pumpers in place. After they sell the 50 billion new naked shorts, they walk the price down, in a day or two. They may even bring it under .0005 maybe to .0004 at which price all those that just bought (the newcomers) are scared and sell- to the MM's which buy it all back. Also, those that have been holding may get scared from the MM's games and sell too! Think of all the profit they make. 50 billion shares * .0003 (ave gain) is 15,000,000 dollars. Yes they are still naked on the original naked shorts, but they have 15 million dollars now to buy back real shares. If they do this 5 times in the next couple weeks, they can easily make back the money to buy back their naked shorts. Any opinions? In the end, when the shorts are covered, do you all think the price will end up around .0012? After that, it should trade according to real market demand and supply? [This message has been edited by HarryHar (edited July 21, 2004).] IP: Logged |
Wallace#1 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 14:25
Re that post of "itsallaboutthemoney" reposted by noahltl at 11:22: Those 7.5 mil shares bought only 5% of the mineral rights that UCAD thinks are valuable. That would depend upon whether or not additional claims can produce profitable results. Therefore, it would be impossible to determine the value of CMKX based upon the deal with UCAD. IP: Logged |
WinsumLosesum Member |
posted July 21, 2004 14:26
Kevy- GTC orders expire after a month. You have to renew the order. ______EDIT_____ And NOW I see that's old news, already. Sorry bout that. Sincerely, The Department of Redundancy Department [This message has been edited by WinsumLosesum (edited July 21, 2004).] IP: Logged |
Justhis1ce Member |
posted July 21, 2004 14:27
quote: Thanks Brad, very helpful. IP: Logged |
HarryHar Member |
posted July 21, 2004 14:35
Wallace that is a fair and balanced statement...UCAD may have gotten the sweetest deal ever in the history of Fort A La Corne if the holes they have rights to produce a 40Billion dollar mine. 5% of 40 billion is 2 billion dollars, for the price of 15 million? But if there's a rat's butt for a diamond in the whole area they own 5% of, they may have paid 15 million for a rat's butt. I think either way, Urban gets paid through UCAD in the first scenario, or Urban gets paid through CMKX in the second scenario. My opnion. IP: Logged |
FJEAN2 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 14:41
I just noticed it's almost 3 pm and CMKX volume is only about 850 million, does anyone know what's up with the low volume today? Is CMKX about to blow up and everyone's just holding tight? holding 61 million cmkx ------------------ IP: Logged |
Money_Penny Member |
posted July 21, 2004 14:41
quote: My understanding is that UCAD has 5% rights on whatever CMKM finds. They did not get the full rights to a chunk of land that is 5% in size of the total. So if CMKM uncovers a mine worth 40B, then UCAD gets 5% of that which is 2B. Am I wrong? IP: Logged |
Wallace#1 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 14:43
Brad/Justhis1ce - Yes, your broker is saying the stock is in your name. However, that is only in connection with the electronic recordkeeping through themselves and DTC. In essence, those shares you have are in "street name", meaning they are in the name of the broker. The Transfer Agent does not have that very same information, and therefore, would probably not have the shares in your name. To carry it beyond to the possibility of the existence of naked shorted shares (what I call "air shares"), the only way to guarantee shares are in your name is to physically get them through your broker, through DTC and then from the Transfer Agent. IP: Logged |
Money_Penny Member |
posted July 21, 2004 14:47
quote: I'm showing 5.2 billion. IP: Logged |
Money_Penny Member |
posted July 21, 2004 14:50
quote: HAVE YOU MADE YOUR DONATIONS YET??? IP: Logged |
Brad Member |
posted July 21, 2004 14:50
quote: Agreed. IP: Logged |
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