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Wallace#1 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 00:15
  
MP There is no Jekyll or Hyde. After due consideration, I just call it as I see it. IP: Logged |
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Str8Shooter Member |
posted July 21, 2004 00:16
Why would all the new race car advertising be going on if there was a merger in the works. Why put the CMKX name brand out there? And if their was a R/S planned at some point. Wouldn't that destroy any belief that this company is for real? And would The lawyer approve or be a part of that? I also think that if the O/S count is 400billion, that approximately 3/4 of the company is still owned by UC and/or insiders. If he owns just over half of the company, I see the O/S being closer to 200billion. Just IMO after seeing posted on another board that there were around 900 investors of CMKX. Even with a seniro of around 1400 investors (not affiliated with the company) I could only see that accounting for roughly 100 billion shares tops. Maybe someone could enlighten me as to their thoughts. I too had worried that there was no actual short problem with the MM's. From what I understood. MM's borrow large blocks of available shares at low prices, sell them off at higher prices. Pay for stocks at the agreed price with whoever was providing them, and then pocket the profits. That would coencide with the spike in early June, I thought. They bought them at .0001 in May. Sold them off between .0003-.0012 in early June and that would be it. But then there is this dividend. Why issue a dividend in a stock that the MM's can't get their hands on??? There has to be a problem right? I'm hoping so!!! Thanks to all, and Good Luck!!! IP: Logged |
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Money_Penny Member |
posted July 21, 2004 00:19
Noah, I know exactly where you are coming from. However, you generation will never understand my generation, and I probably won't ever understand my son's generation when he grows up. This is just natural. In my generation "weed" is not a bad word. Neither is "alcohol" which can be a much bigger evil as far as I am concerned (if abused). In your generation, it was probably cool to hang out at the drive-in when you were a teen, in mine it was the bowling alley, and today who knows what. All I'm trying to say is open your mind and don't condem other people for acting their age. This is a comunity. There are people here from 18 - 80. Keep an open mind, please, we're all here with one goal - getting a nice return on our investment. Peace. IP: Logged |
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Upside Member |
posted July 21, 2004 00:22
Str8Shooter, Those 900 investors are only comprised of people who hold their actual certificates and brokerage houses that hold all other investors certificates in street name. In other words, Ameritrade would count as one investor, E-Trade would be one, so on and so forth. Ameritrade might have 1000 clients holding stock in CMKX in street name and it would still be counted as one. IP: Logged |
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tradingpennys Member |
posted July 21, 2004 00:29
Str8Shooter I see you are another one of the few of us that see the light. I am knew to trading and this stock has given me a crash course on "short positions". Now sterlings saying that it is double shorted... LOL How can and WHY would they naked short MICRO penny stocks? It would be a waste of time and effort with all the stocks they deal with. It makes a heck-of-a-lot more sense they would short the bigger $ stocks. This stock DOES have billions of shares out there that they are desperate to sell before they report the financials. That's the reason (partly.. the other part is ego) for the race car promo's are for and then they give us dividends on a defunk company that is not tradable. LOL IP: Logged |
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Money_Penny Member |
posted July 21, 2004 00:46
You people need to get a grip. So we had a few laughs tonight...so friggin' what??? There's nothing else to do, so instead of staring into empty cyberspace, there were a few jokes made on this all too friggin' serious "holy ground". Give me a break. If you may have noticed, I have also made a pledge tonight to donate money to the benefit of Melvin's dying wife, and I haven't seen anybody except Van come out and say "I do" either, so why don't all you moral apostles quit your pathetic whining and do something constructive for a change? Again, this is a public forum. If you don't like it, lock yourselves into your basements and watch the "wholy channel" all day long - I don't care. If you don't like what I'm saying or you're offended, tough $hit, this is who I am. I stand up for myself and others who can't help themselves. M_P out. IP: Logged |
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Money_Penny Member |
posted July 21, 2004 00:52
quote: Yes, Tina, and when Wallace sees the good side of the coin, I want to be the first one to know! IP: Logged |
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tradingpennys Member |
posted July 21, 2004 00:53
Money - BEHAVE ! IP: Logged |
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Money_Penny Member |
posted July 21, 2004 00:56
quote: Ruff ruff. Nite all. IP: Logged |
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f15crew Member |
posted July 21, 2004 01:05
Noah, I am very new to stocks. I started in May, and invested a meesly (sp?) $1000 in 6 companies - CMKX, GFYF, GZFX, TSBB, WGFL, and WNMI. I have only 1300K of CMKX. I also want to say that I have only invested money that I don't care if it is lost. I come to this board, because I feel there are a lot of smart people here that have much information to offer a newbie such as myself. I have got to disagree with you on those that post negative thoughts. I have noticed in my short time here that people that share positive thoughts are accepted and people that share negative ones are shunned. I like to hear it all. I will agree with you on the crap that was on here tonight. I usually sit back and try to absorb all that I read here, but tonight, I read for a couple of hours about CRAP. I found very little humor in any of it. With that said, I have some questions. I may only have very little invested, but I'd still like to make some money in the end. I use Ameritrade. I have heard a few people talk about our shares there. Some have said that Ameritrade is insured and not to worry. Others say to get certificates for proof. I have chosen not to get the certificates, because of the hassle of selling if required. Will I only know if mine are naked, when the dividend comes? If they are naked, then I am under the assumption from people here that the dividend (which is pretty irrelevent in my eyes) will not apply to me. Again, I totally agree with you what people post here. I don't come here to read the crap that is here this evening. I don't have time to do a whole lot of my own DD, so I come here to pick up what I see in everyone else's posts. I am not speaking for anyone but myself, but if I were just starting out now, and trying to find a board to call home, I would have went on searching as a result of tonights embarrassing conversations. Randy IP: Logged |
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darrenbaker Member |
posted July 21, 2004 01:18
MELVINS WIFE MEDICAL FUND I set up a web page that will link to the pay pal account. I will post it as soon as it comes on line. In the mean time you can go to pay pal and use account name darrenbaker@opmercy.com make a donation. Who is going to be first? DARREN IP: Logged |
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STAR GAZER Member |
posted July 21, 2004 01:21
I came to allstocks to read about stocks. To hear the positives about a stock and also the negatives so that I would know if there was some reason to get out. If people want to shoot the bull, that's fine, but please not here. You say, well its ok because it's after hours, but if you will notice, I make my posts at these times because that is usually the only free time that I have. It is upsetting to have to wade through three pages of posts and see 90% of it involves people bad mouthing each other, or talking about underarm hair or a persons nationality. We are starting to sound like some of the other boards that we complain about. IP: Logged |
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HarryHar Member |
posted July 21, 2004 01:23
I can see how the MM's will short this by bringing it up, walking it down and bringing it back up, and walking it down, and bringing it back up etc etc to make money during this time while they are forced to cover. I also see how they can actually make a ton of money in this next month by walking the price up, selling more naked shares, then dropping it and buying them back. This could happen a few times before Aug 20. In the midst of it, it is possible for them to retire the naked shorts little by little as they drop the price and buy back at a fraction of what they sold for when they brought the price up. Is it a good idea for us shareholders to cancel ALL our sells until after Aug 20? [This message has been edited by HarryHar (edited July 21, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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GoldieStox Member |
posted July 21, 2004 01:26
i have to agree. this was always my favorite board because the people were friendly, smart, open minded to different sets of opinions AND, most of all, i didnt have to deal with the BS. tonight there was a lot of it - and a bunch of inane, sexist crap too. i hate to see this board go down the drain with the others. if you want to talk sh*t - start another thread, and have a ball. IP: Logged |
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noahltl New Member |
posted July 21, 2004 01:30
Randy, I'm in the camp that believes most, if not all stocks held by us are naked shorted. However, Ameritrade had assured us that we have x-number of shares in the stock. If most or all of our shares are naked shorted, and the dividend is paid, stockholders who do not receive the dividend will be calling their brokers wanting to know why. The brokerages will then make demands on the MM's through whom they ordered your shares, to come up with the money. In the case of shares of CIM, the MM's can't come up with it, or at least enough of it to cover so many naked shorts. Their only choice is to buy your shares. And as we get closer to Aug 21 and 30, the more they will be offering for our shares in order to cover. I suspect by then, they will be offering enough pps that we will all probably get out. Just my opinion. [This message has been edited by noahltl (edited July 21, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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noahltl New Member |
posted July 21, 2004 01:42
Money Penny, I don't know how old you think I am, but I'm not exactly drooling on my shirt yet. I'm 58, did my college time in the mid 60's. It was my generation (though I'm not proud of it) that brought you "weed" and drug abuse in general. We did Woodstock before you were thought of. Getting stoned is not the "venue" of your generation. The only difference between your generation, and mine now, is that we grew up, had our own children, and tried our hardest to protect them from the abuses that we committed. If my "advanced" years has taught me anything, is that although "generations" change, human nature doesn't. You are looking for the same "thrills" that we did. You just don't know the costs yet. OK, I'm not going to be involved in any "drug wars" so I'm done with it. I stand by my earlier comments. [This message has been edited by noahltl (edited July 21, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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tradingpennys Member |
posted July 21, 2004 01:45
quote: ________________________________ "In the case of shares of CIM, the MM's can't come up with it, or at least enough of it to cover so many naked shorts" That's kind of funny, not only can't the MM's come up with it, NIETHER can the company!! It is NOT tradable. lol IP: Logged |
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noahltl New Member |
posted July 21, 2004 01:50
quote: Trading, I don't follow you here. That fact that a stock is not traded, does not prevent the company from issuing shares of stock to you. They still have stock certificates they just aren't on the boards. YET IP: Logged |
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HarryHar Member |
posted July 21, 2004 01:51
CIM is not tradable now, but it doesn't mean that with that 1 million dollars it can't start looking for and testing for zinc deposits that make the company worth something, leading it to become a valuable company and tradable eventually. The PR did say that they are working towards being fully reporting. Not that they will for sure become that, but there's a good chance that their zinc claims are worth something. They are at least heading in the right direction for it to become a valuable company. That's all we can ask for. [This message has been edited by HarryHar (edited July 21, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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XchangeMODE Member |
posted July 21, 2004 01:53
I HOPE THIS THERE IS GOING TO BE LESS GARBAGE POSTED ON THIS BOARD IN THE FUTURE. THE FACT IS THE PPS IS MOVING UP APPARENTLY THERE WAS THIS FIASCO WITH PACIFIC STOCK TRANSFER AFTER THAT INCIDENT THE 400 BILLION SHARE COUNT IS OUT OF THE QUESTION. 50 BILLION ALWAYS MADE MORE SENSE TO ME.BUT IT COULD BE ANYTHING BUT 400 BILLION. NOT FROM INDIVIDUALS AND I DOUBT IT`S COMING FROM HEDGEFUNDS ALLTOUGH THE OCCASSIONAL PINK SHEET STOCK POPS UP IN THEIR PORTFOLIO IT`S NOT EASY TO GET YOUR ORDER EXECUTED AT A GOOD PRICE,(IT`S NOT A PERFECT DAYTRADERS STOCK)well it is but not shortterm and I`M SO I`M STILL WONDERING WHERE THE ACTION IS COMING FROM BUT THEN COMES THE DIVIDEND AND WILL REALLY MOVE WITH THE o/s COUNT IP: Logged |
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XchangeMODE Member |
posted July 21, 2004 01:54
I HOPE THIS THERE IS GOING TO BE LESS GARBAGE POSTED ON THIS BOARD IN THE FUTURE. THE FACT IS THE PPS IS MOVING UP APPARENTLY THERE WAS THIS FIASCO WITH PACIFIC STOCK TRANSFER AFTER THAT INCIDENT THE 400 BILLION SHARE COUNT IS OUT OF THE QUESTION. 50 BILLION ALWAYS MADE MORE SENSE TO ME.BUT IT COULD BE ANYTHING BUT 400 BILLION. NOT FROM INDIVIDUALS AND I DOUBT IT`S COMING FROM HEDGEFUNDS ALLTOUGH THE OCCASSIONAL PINK SHEET STOCK POPS UP IN THEIR PORTFOLIO IT`S NOT EASY TO GET YOUR ORDER EXECUTED AT A GOOD PRICE,(IT`S NOT A PERFECT DAYTRADERS STOCK)well it is but not shortterm and I`M SO I`M STILL WONDERING WHERE THE ACTION IS COMING FROM BUT THEN COMES THE DIVIDEND AND WILL REALLY MOVE WITH THE o/s COUNT IP: Logged |
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JBCak47 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 01:55
New Thread for all off topic, Politically incorrect thoughts... lol buyer beware heheh... I welcome all, keep in mind this will cover all the stuff I got yelled at for...
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noahltl New Member |
posted July 21, 2004 02:03
Wallace, I'm willing to 'bury the hatchet' with the "Wallace" that's on the board tonight, but I'll tell ya, I have to agree with some of the people who see two different Wallaces show up here. So with reservation I say this, if that other guy shows up later, after developing a trust and following here, all bets are off. IP: Logged |
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XchangeMODE Member |
posted July 21, 2004 02:11
SORRY FOR POSTING TWICE I DON`T WHY IN THE PARAGRAPH THE WORD ************ GOT BLANKED OUT IT`S NOT A CURSEWORD OR IS IT ! I SPELL IT AGAIN MARKET-ACTION IP: Logged |
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XchangeMODE Member |
posted July 21, 2004 02:14
STRANGE IT GOT CENSORED AGAIN SPELLED AS ONE WORD IP: Logged |
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PAUL Member |
posted July 21, 2004 07:30
Good Morning, My contact information is as follows. Pastor@WGAT.org To send a note of support to Melvin and Vicky. getwellsoon@WGAT.org Please contact me through my normal email address. I would be glad to help in any way I can. I am sorry I did not respond sooner. I was not feeling well yesterday and wen to bed early. A friend of mine sent me an e-mail and told me of what was happening. Thank You. Paul
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Wallace#1 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 07:39
Noah, I see two different Noahs as well. Just thought I would try. Now we both have reservations. Too bad. Now all bets ARE off. [This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited July 21, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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Wallace#1 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 08:00
Nite's Gen. Counsel resigned to join Janus Capital Group. Don't know if it had any connection to supposed naked short selling. Also reported 2nd Qtr loss of .42. [This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited July 21, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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Money_Penny Member |
posted July 21, 2004 08:17
Morning all. Darren, you have cash. IP: Logged |
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cool1sh Member |
posted July 21, 2004 08:22
GO to Nasdaq.com and click on holdings summary, enter CMKX NIAGARA INVESTMENT 2,000,000 Go CMKX IP: Logged |
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sarki316 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 08:31
WALLACE I WANT TO KNOW TO WATCH THIS STOCK TODAY BECAUSE IT WILL MOVE. IT WILL HIT THE PENNY TODAY. TOUGH GUY!!!! IP: Logged |
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Money_Penny Member |
posted July 21, 2004 08:34
Coolish, That's a whooping $1500 total. To me that does not mean much. IP: Logged |
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cool1sh Member |
posted July 21, 2004 08:39
Thats true. I am just happy with their official presence 
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Brad Member |
posted July 21, 2004 08:42
Here is the email response I got back from Ameritrade when I sent a message to them regarding CMKX shares being shorted. I indicated to them that I was considering requesting the actual certificates because of naked shorting theory. Here's their response to me. ------------------------------------------- Dear Brad: Thank you for contacting us today regarding your CMKX shares. Stock certificates are always available if you would like to have them. You can request a stock certificate by choosing Stock Request on the Account Services drop down menu, on the Web site. We will charge $40 per stock certificate (not per stock) that is sent out in registered form (in the client's name). The request is sent to the transfer agent who in turn will send the registered shares directly to the client. The request will take between 2-4 weeks. We strongly recommend against holding stock certificates in physical form due to the possibility of theft, loss, or damage. Most importantly, stock certificates in your possession can not be actively traded. Ameritrade, like all other brokerage firms, keeps its clients' certificates at the Depository Trust Company. There are two ways you can make sure your shares are not shorted: you can remove margin from your account, or you can request stock certificates for your stock. To have margin trading approval removed from your account, please take the following steps. 1) Any margin debit must be paid off to bring your account to 100% equity. 2) There can be no existing short or option positions, and no unsettled trades. 3) When your account meets the above requirements, please log into your Ameritrade account and send us a message using the "E-mail Us" link which can be found in the yellow bar at the left side of any page within your account. In the e-mail, you should specifically request the removal of the margin trading approval from your account. Once we receive your message, please allow 3-5 business days for the request to be processed. *Please note that any trading activity in the account during this process will delay the conversion. If you have further concerns or inquiries, please reply to this message. Sincerely, Patrice Murphy IP: Logged |
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Money_Penny Member |
posted July 21, 2004 08:45
quote: Let's make a deal! If it hits a penny today, I'll buy you a case of champagne (or beer or moonshine or whatever you prefer). If it doesn't, you will stop posting such garbage, OK? IP: Logged |
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darrenbaker Member |
posted July 21, 2004 08:52
quote: Thanks, Thats a start!! IP: Logged |
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Money_Penny Member |
posted July 21, 2004 09:07
Good Morning America (and the rest of the world). As you may have heard, Darren Baker has set up a collection account for the benefit of Melvin's wife Vicky, who is terminally ill. Please, please donate some money, I'm sure they can put it to good use. The account Darren set up is with Paypal (www.paypal.com). If you already have an account with PayPal, just log on, click on "send money" and enter Darren's e-mail (darrenbaker@opmercy.com) and the amount you wish to donate. If you don't have an account with Paypal, set-up is very easy. You can either have the funds drawn from your checking account or a credit card. This service is totally safe. It is used by many ebay users as the only vehicle of transferring money. I use it all the time (for ebay mostly) and I am very happy with it. Let me know if you need help with the transaction or anything else. You support will be highly appreciated. [This message has been edited by Money_Penny (edited July 21, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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sarki316 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 09:20
Okay!!!! I am not a person who like to talk crap. I speak the truth. This is what I hear from my boys on the floor. I called qbid
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PAUL Member |
posted July 21, 2004 09:27
DarrenBaker, Please contact me by e-mail. Pastor@WGAT.org Paul A link to preview the kind thoughs so far sent to the getwellsoon@wgat.org email address. Names have been removed from the web preview. Signaturs will not be removed from the printed version sent to Melvin and Vicky.
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VNGNTN1 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 09:28
TEENAGER I did post a topic there and it was removed; I assume the moderator feels it is a CMKX topic. Hope someday when you are older a similar situation does not plague you. TP I see both sides of the coin also and reject one of them. I think we have a split personality on board.(writing both sides of coin) Let me offer a solution if all of this is ligitmate(free speech and all) 75% less posts! VAN [This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited July 21, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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Booty Quest Member |
posted July 21, 2004 09:29
Are you guys watching QBID? Huge gap up this morning on new carrier news. IP: Logged |
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VNGNTN1 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 09:33
DARREN Check your email ALL After thinking for a few days, would yo all agree the last 2 PR's have not helped to much, but niether have they hurt? There is also a good chance later for positive movement! No matter which side you come down on you must be evaluating PR in these terms ????? VAN [This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited July 21, 2004).] [This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited July 21, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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Brad Member |
posted July 21, 2004 09:40
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PAUL Member |
posted July 21, 2004 09:42
Had a friend at the races this weekend who sent me pictures. Here is the link. http://www.akbonline.org/GETpbPIX.htm They had a great time w/ Urban, Ron and the CMKX family. I did not take the pix but, to my understanding....... Top Left - Willy Wizzard
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Money_Penny Member |
posted July 21, 2004 09:47
Sarki, I am "glued" to my screen watching the ticker, no 2000% increase yet! When will it come? Didn't your buddy tell you, I mean he is on the floor so he should know, right? [This message has been edited by Money_Penny (edited July 21, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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Money_Penny Member |
posted July 21, 2004 09:58
I want to get clarification on something I read last night. The volume that shows up on our streamers, is that for total shares traded, i.e. sells plus buys, or is it for net sells, i.e. sells minus buys? Can someone clarify please? Also, why does the volume vary from service to service, where can I go to get an accurate number? Thanks. IP: Logged |
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VNGNTN1 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 10:10
MP It is my understanding that BUY & SELL are the same share( you can't sell unless someone buys). If you are refferring to shorting(NORMAL) there is an opposing shares in some brokers(MM) account(NAKED) The is an electronic share logged. So if 4bn is on your streamer 4bn sold & 4bn Bought VAN [This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited July 21, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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Money_Penny Member |
posted July 21, 2004 10:24
LOL. I see now that was somewhat of a stupid question then. So when an MM sells a naked share, it still shows up as a sell & buy? Why do I hear then that "the buys outnumbered the sells". What creates that situation? I think I may have slept through investing 101, LOL. IP: Logged |
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TradingWizard Member |
posted July 21, 2004 10:54
Paul/Darren May I suggest that we create new thread for Vicky, and kindly someone can bump up to the top once in the while. The CMKX thread generates 4 pages a day and some of us may never see it - it takes 2 hours to read when it is a good stuff.... ------------------ IP: Logged |
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kguts11 Member |
posted July 21, 2004 11:07
It is called Aplastic Anemia. It seems to be related to a form of Leukemia, although it is specifically a bone marrow disease. http://www.aplastic.org/diseases.shtml Hope this helps. Kev
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