posted August 03, 2004 17:01            

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Originally posted by noahltl:
Well here's some well thought out "speculations" from another board. Worth the read.

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Wow!!! How does somebody have the time to sit down and come up with a theory like that. No clue as to how close it is to being correct but fun to read anyway.

posted August 03, 2004 17:05            

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Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
SPECULATION PLEASE (Especially SToned Pigeon)
Should we be buying UCAD ???
VAN

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posted August 03, 2004 17:08            

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I would bet 200k shares of my cmkx that Urban and his insiders still own at least 51% of the company's stock. Any takers?

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Define "Urbans insiders" first.

posted August 03, 2004 17:09            

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Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
SPECULATION PLEASE (Especially SToned Pigeon)
Should we be buying UCAD ???
VAN

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posted August 03, 2004 17:17            

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Originally posted by TradingWizard:
Van I wish I could help you, but I don't know. Just noticed you been calling for some stock buying advice lately.

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posted August 03, 2004 17:27            

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http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=3720981

NUMBERS WE CAN ALL RELATE TO.

Let's simply look at this as a business proposition. Let's assume that bashers have induced selling from approximately 400 millon shares held by weak or newbie investors (I doubt the number is that high but let's just say it is). Now let's say all the good news we hope for hits and shorts have to cover. And let's say it takes the price to a conservative 5 cents. Now if we take the actual number of Ms Shell's bashing hours, averaging 50 hours per week for the past 8 weeks (400 total hours) we can deduce the following Return on Investment equation.

Sold shares = 400 million x .0004 = $160,000
Price at which shorts would have HAD to cover = .05 x 400M = $20 million
Cost saved = $20 million - $160,000 = $19,840,000
Per hour return = $19,840,000 divided by 400 hours = $49,600 per hour

Now THAT would be a wise investment in resources and perhaps would help some to understand possible motives for the appearance of certain invidividuals here. As a business proposition, it just makes sense. We believe CMKX is a wise investment. And I believe that whoever may be backing Ms Shell and her merry band may also view their investment as wise. The above figures, if true, would certainly support that.

PLEASE NOTE: I do not believe the above. This is called humor, albeit subtle. (However, I do believe that the bashers probably did only induce 400M or less shares of selling among the 10s of billions traded in the past few weeks.)

Z

As always, these are my personal opinions.

posted August 03, 2004 19:10            

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Originally posted by Upside:
Noah,
The link that was posted yesterday is gone and I don't see one in your post but here it is:
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dividend.asp?sym_id=CMKX&dDate=08/20/2004&sDateType=Record_da te

The information is still there.

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Upside,

posted August 03, 2004 19:25            

1. If it is true that UC made a deal to sell back shorts to Jeff at .0004, couldnt he take those proceeds and buyback an equal number of real shares at the same price.

Thus a short position of 500 billion would retire 500 billion real shares. 300 billion would retire 300 etc.

The MM's could be retiring all of our shares. Except the ones I own of course.

I believe the 483 billion OS includes all naked shorts. Some DD posted earlier showed how MM's logged them and recorded them.

Of that 483 billion how many would be real shares? That is the issue.

Also no one has shown where a pink company has to provide OS when the dividend is from a reporting company. One post last night stated the OTC.BB could receive the info from either company or MM.

So the MM's could have provided the info. In so doing the MM's may have provided Naked shares as well.

I am of the opinion that OS is not a concern because at .0001 all can be retired for 50 million.In one quick push of the button it can go from 500 billion to 1 billion or less as they work out the details of this company going forward.

posted August 03, 2004 19:44            

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Upside,

Can you tell me how to find that information on OTCBB for myself? I go to the OTCBB Daily List page, enter "CMKX" under Search Criteria, then I select Dividends - Record Date under Category, and use 08/20/2004 as the date range, but CMKX does not come up. What am I doing wrong? Also, what does this mean from your link under Notes, "Will not be quoted Ex."? Thanks.

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To answer the 2nd part of your question first, this is what I'm assuming they mean. When a stock declares a dividend, an Ex.-dividend date is usually attached to the symbol when you look up a quote on it. The date is to inform you of when you have to own the stock by in order to recieve the dividend. After that date (the Ex-dividend date) the date tag is dropped and the stock is quoted as normal. I'm assuming they're saying CMKX will not be quoted with the Ex. date attatched, possibly because it is a pink sheet stock. To answer the first part, I was not able to enter the proper search criteria either to make it work. I copied the link from another board. What you can do though is copy only the first part of the link, right up to and including the ? after .asp. Paste it into your address bar and it will take you to the otcbb site and it will bring up every company that has declared a dividend of any type. Be patient if you do it though, it takes a long time to load because it is huge! CMKX is about 22nd or 23rd on the list. Last night they were at # 10 so I'm assuming as new companies report, the older ones are pushed down.

posted August 03, 2004 21:11            

The next CMKX " REAG "

posted August 03, 2004 21:22            

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Originally posted by Bigrod40:
Hey Money, what board did you see this on ????

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Can't mention other boards on this forum. Anywho, the thread I was referring to has been deleted by the mods.

posted August 03, 2004 21:46            

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Originally posted by TradingWizard:
Van I wish I could help you, but I don't know. Just noticed you been calling for some stock buying advice lately.

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TW
SP owns this stock & may be up to speed on companys financials. That is why I mention this in post.
NOAH
Can you elaborate a bit more on this JEFF situation on other board ?
MP
Please fill in all details on this, if it has been purged none of the rest of us will see it. any little detail can spark an idea.
VAN

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited August 03, 2004).]

posted August 03, 2004 22:02            

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Div of GEMM 25% and 24% mixed up?

If I take the 127.336.036 as the 1st dividend.

if 25% = 127,336,036 then that is 1/4 of 509,344,144 right?

if we subtract 127,336,036 from 509,344,144 it then leaves us with 382,008,108

so if we then divide 382,008,108 by 4 (roughly 24%) then we get 95502027

calculating this way, the numbers in the PR are correct, and also the 1% missing is because of UCAD is the majority owner, so UCAD has to own at least 51%.

please correct me if I'm wrong.

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posted August 03, 2004 22:13            

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited August 03, 2004).]

posted August 03, 2004 22:17            

I will be VERY happy when I see CMKX trading more than 0020, but won't be surprised.

GLTA

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Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
Does this imply that with this information made public we will now see a normal trading enviroment?
I would think that CMKX should be trading @ about $.002-.005 with a volume of 5-10m daily
and climbing with good PR's
VAN

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited August 03, 2004).]

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posted August 03, 2004 22:39            

As per pps, I think it won't be less than 0003 (Knock on wood) even with this 483B O/S. We can't do anything but wait until Sep/Oct to see good or bad IMO.

Good luck to everyone. Good night all..

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Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
COOL
5m-10m
Once outside influence is gone and value is reinstated. People will have some good facts to use thru reporting, there is no reason I can see for the huge volume we have experienced. It is my belief that once the speculators determine the swing ability is gone, the real investor mentality will take over. Nothing wrong with the swingers that's reality, but reality changes.
VAN

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited August 03, 2004).]

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posted August 03, 2004 22:41            

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Originally posted by Upside:
Van,
Are you basing this on the assumption that the 480billion o/s figure is correct?

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posted August 03, 2004 22:49            

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Originally posted by noahltl:
Somebody identified the guy who works for JEFF and does the CMKX trading, or at least that is the rumor. Others added his picture, home TX, home address. That's about it, guess they wanted to harass this guy. Kind of shows the intelligence level on some of the other boards.

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posted August 03, 2004 22:55            

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Somebody identified the guy who works for JEFF and does the CMKX trading, or at least that is the rumor. Others added his picture, home TX, home address. That's about it, guess they wanted to harass this guy. Kind of shows the intelligence level on some of the other boards.

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posted August 03, 2004 23:37            

Posted by: Pedro2004
In reply to: None Date:8/3/2004 8:18:08 PM
Post #of 69884

Information on O/S that may be of interest.

I was rereading the SEC purchase contract filed by UCAD.

A lot of people questioned about UC holding more than 50% of the outstanding shares of CMKM.

I believe I may have proof that this is true.

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I believe we are all aware that corporate decisions must be approved by:
1. The Board of Directors , and
2. A majority shareholder approval (51%).

In order for CMKM to approve the sales of assets to UCAD, both items above must have been approved at some unknown meeting.

I was never mailed any voting ballots nor have I signed a proxy allowing another individual to vote on my behalf.

So let’s stick with item 2 above “A majority shareholder approval (51%).”

Under Nevada Corporate Law any decisions to buy and/or sell assets of the corporation must be approved by a majority shareholder vote.

NRS 78A.070 Shareholders’ agreements: Authority to enter; effect; amendment.
1. All shareholders of a close corporation who are entitled to vote may agree in writing to regulate the exercise of the corporate powers and the management of the business and affairs of the corporation or the relationship among the shareholders of the corporation.
http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-078A.html#NRS078ASec080

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I was reviewing the UCAD purchase agreement and discovered something very interesting. (Section 5..)

5.1 Organization of Seller; Authorization. Seller is a
corporation duly organized, validly existing and in good standing
under the laws of Nevada with full corporate power and authority to
execute and deliver this Agreement as it pertains to any
representations or untertakings of Seller. The execution,
delivery and performance of this Agreement has been duly
authorized by all necessary corporate actions of Seller and this
Agreement constitutes a valid and binding obligation of Seller,
enforceable against it in accordance with its terms.
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1104194/000123224704000032/enio12.txt

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At some time there was a meeting held about the sale of assets to UCAD.

At this meeting CMKM Board of Directors voted and approved the sell of assets to UCAD.

At this meeting a majority interest (more than 51%) of CMKM Shareholders voted and approved the sell of assets to UCAD.

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The same scenario is used for the purchase of “25% of Juina Mining.”

At some time there was a meeting held about the purchase assets in Juina Mining.

At this meeting CMKM Board of Directors voted and approved the purchase of assets in Juina Mining.

At this meeting a majority interest (more than 51%) of CMKM Shareholders voted and approved the purchase of assets in Juina Mining. /
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What this is saying is that no matter “what” the issued and O/S of CMKM shares, UC and the CMKM Board of Directors have always maintained a 51% shareholder voting privilege.

Worst case scenario on the Float is:

Assuming 500 billion shares issued
UC and CMKX Board of Directors 251 billion shares
Shares issued to Nevada Minerals 75 billion shares

(500 B) less (251 B) less (75 B) = 174 billion

Worst case scenario is 174 billion float shares

posted August 04, 2004 00:25            

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Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
SPECULATION PLEASE
Should we be buying UCAD ???
VAN

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Well ?

(long pause)

Buy what the money is buying!

CMKX

UCAD seems to think there is something in Cmkx worth 3mil ?

So far all I've seen is what goes around comes around?

(which means no money really changes hands just stock)

A: ucad
to
B:cmkx
To
c:

posted August 04, 2004 00:35            

Buy the cow not the milk---------CMKX