quote:Originally posted by hagatha: Ok folks. You can believe what you want to believe. I am merely sharing information which I believe to be credible. If you would prefer I don't share, then I won't in the future.
And as for "bashing", give me a break. This company has bashed itself into the ground. It needs noone else to do that job. And I am certainly not a basher. I hold over 6M shares of this crap. I would love nothing more than to see it run so I can take my investment and be rid of the drama.
But I am also a realist. I want information, good or bad. Unfortunately, the information coming out about this company is mostly bad. But it's self inflicted.
ahhh....hang around hag.
i know you're not a basher and i agree with your assessment of the information (and the poster) as credible. [some of us read alot and really know what and who you're posting about.]
i been here a long time and folks bash me for the truth also--the ones who haven't done their reading and research.
for the record folks, the letter came from thundermeadow, an optimistic houston ihub poster who has (now until the 7th) been subscribing, watching, and reporting to the board the programming quality and content. honestly and in his own words. he was trashed on THAT board by the 'chirpers' over there. even digital photo'd the letter to lobogotti (clayton--honest, truthful, no bs poster/mod), who posted the digital photo in 3 parts. and then he (lobo) was promptly trashed.
this board is the same way. lobo said it over there yesterday i think. alotta folks here are the same way--they want to be 'spoon-fed'. ALL the information, right here, right now. doesn't matter all the previous stuff that's posted concerning the information, the topic, or the poster. just tell me ALL of it. with instant, absolute, unimpeachable proof (even though that's what you just showed them). lol
remember hag, these people have trashed you, me, lobo, charlt, junk, thunder, irish, and on and on. they also believed frank.
so do like i do--hang around and keep us on our toes with the truth. ...and of course, verifiable sources. with links.
and don't let the 'chirpers' get to ya. there's good folks here who appreciate and are smart enough to handle the truth.
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From: "Equity Relations, Inc." <staff*equityrelations.com> Save to addressbook To: clayton*xxxxxxxxx.com Subject: RE: TW Houston Date: Tue, 04 April 2006 12:08:10
Clayton,
I must make this perfectly clear - As per senior management, TW Houston will be dropped. Previous management missed certain deadlines that were contractually necessary to go forward with TW Houston. Senior managements window to rectify those missed deadlines was too narrow and unfortunately TW needed to make the appropriate business decision at that time.
Now, I have not seen this "drop" writing, but again, I was given permission by both Carol and Lloyd to give this explanation to the shareholder base.
Regards,
Richard Brown Equity Relations, Inc. 617-314-7379 staff*equityrelations.com www.equityrelations.com Please visit our website for disclaimers and information
-----Original Message----- From: clayton*xxxxxxxxx.com [mailto:clayton*xxxxxxxxx.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 11:20 AM To: staff*equityrelations.com Subject: TW Houston
Richard,
I have contacted Greg Calvert to confirm that TW Houston will in fact be removing QTN from their line-up. However, customer service is confused and not in the know. I have heard you know and confirm to other people on the board, and also think you probably had prior knowledge.
Would you be so kind as to verify it. You have always been quick and diligent with me. I would greatly appreciate it.
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QTN is totally ass-backwards.... we are suppose to be picking up carriers - not being dropped by them. LOL!
IMO QTN should drop all these nickle and penney carriers in NE, AL and RCN and SelecTV carriers... I read some rumor that we only have 800 total subsribers to date (but can't verify this claim). I dont see most of current places that carry Q as demand areas, with exception of NY maybe.
Lloyd needs to get QTN programming back online and pay Dish and/or DirecTV the 250K per month fee and get it over with. The TM "hunting license" deals obvioulsy are not working out at this point in time.
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a set back here, a set back there , its almost better to watch from the sidelines. this is one ugly stock. i hope we can prosper 10% of what we all expected .its raining here in burbank today. all the actors have moved east to palm springs to get some sun.. atleast for today.
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At least now-a-days it is actually easier to watch. It was really painful watching it slowly downtick. Now at the least my account balance isn't shrinking daily because it has nowhere to go!
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quote:Originally posted by King Crimson: market price last 2 business days...
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LOL Mine doesn't show that many digits. Let me live in my own world of denial for at least a little while!
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I think if shareholders really wanted to help, any shareholder in a market that offers The Q should really get a subscription...if for nothing else than to help The Q get off the ground.
I have comcast in DC, and the minute it is offered, I will join up.
It worked when Napoleon proposed his Levee en masse. We should do the same. Come on Q, come to DC.
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Anyone know how to subscribe to this? I have an email in to The Q. Heck, i dont even have a C-Band Intelsat 13 whatcha macalit (sounds like one of Frank's old business ventures). But I would happily subcribe for $7.95 a month to get this puppy moving. If new management needs a little help getting The Q into second gear, I'd be happy to subscribe...even if I cant really even watch it.
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quote:Originally posted by hagatha: A follow up to my post on Saturday.
Thanks for the update, hagatha. This guy "lobogotti" seems to think we should believe everything posted on message boards (or maybe just what he posts ).
As I remember, those who questioned his post simply asked for some "proof" that his comments were true and accurate. Pretty sensible, I think.
He is now providing a source that we may use to verify his info. I found this comment especially irritating:
"Another good try by some people here to dismiss it, but again you just look silly when you try to attack people of good character on this board."
Good character? Says whom? I've never met lobogotti ... and I sure as hell will not believe someone because he claims to be of good character. The most notorious con-men in history (incuding serial killer Ted Bundy) were successful only because people believed them without proof.
Sorry for insulting you, lobo, but an honest person would understand our reluctance to believe undocumented and unproven information.
Two of the ten biggest lies in the world are: "Trust me, buy this stock and get rich." And another is: "Trust me, sell this stock before you lose it all."
Wish I could remember the other eight lies ... but that's another subject for a different thread.
BL, this is a good post and I think everyone should look at internet posters in the same way. The question I have for you and others here is if you replace "Lobogotti" with "Doctoall" would you be so fast to say the same thing?
If so, I say kudos. If not, I'd ask why?
I've never met Doc, but he seems like a stand up guy and I'd take his info with a lot more faith than other people here. I think the same can be said for Lobo. They met at the Q studios last year and both vouched for each other on their respective boards.
Back when Lobo was giving good information (along with Doc) after the studio visit, people were so thankful for his posts and never questioned the validity. Now that he posts something negative (and it was posted as a fact, not opinion) it's "We can't trust this guy, he may be lying."
True statement, but there's a huge hypocrisy.
Anyway, good post and I think that everyone should replace "lobogotti" with someone they trust and respect here and get a solid reality check when they reread your post.
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Don't let these people get to you hagatha. They are living in a fantasy world and cannot stand any negative comments against QBID... We need people like you to spread the truth about this POS stock. Most pumpers here have absolutely no education whatsoever.. let alone any investment backgrounds.
Cheers
GF
quote:Originally posted by hagatha: Ok folks. You can believe what you want to believe. I am merely sharing information which I believe to be credible. If you would prefer I don't share, then I won't in the future.
And as for "bashing", give me a break. This company has bashed itself into the ground. It needs noone else to do that job. And I am certainly not a basher. I hold over 6M shares of this crap. I would love nothing more than to see it run so I can take my investment and be rid of the drama.
But I am also a realist. I want information, good or bad. Unfortunately, the information coming out about this company is mostly bad. But it's self inflicted.
quote:Originally posted by Intimatrader: Lol... What credible source what post such a letter on april 1st { none }
That letter did not sound proffesional enough to me .
Had a touch of bashin in it and a smidge of bull.
I have a few million shares and am not worried AT ALL .I will let QBID work on solving their problems and be a good little share holder and wait .
Some people are giving information { good or bad } yet others are clearly bashers "kicking" QBID while it is down . No one is really talking about the powerful positives of the company .
quote:Originally posted by Numa: BL, this is a good post and I think everyone should look at internet posters in the same way. The question I have for you and others here is if you replace "Lobogotti" with "Doctoall" would you be so fast to say the same thing? If so, I say kudos. If not, I'd ask why? I've never met Doc, but he seems like a stand up guy and I'd take his info with a lot more faith than other people here. I think the same can be said for Lobo. They met at the Q studios last year and both vouched for each other on their respective boards.
Back when Lobo was giving good information (along with Doc) after the studio visit, people were so thankful for his posts and never questioned the validity. Now that he posts something negative (and it was posted as a fact, not opinion) it's "We can't trust this guy, he may be lying."
True statement, but there's a huge hypocrisy.
Anyway, good post and I think that everyone should replace "lobogotti" with someone they trust and respect here and get a solid reality check when they reread your post.
Numa Good post. You've asked some very valid questions. Made me question myself, which is always good.
My recent concern about the truth and accuracy of lobogotti's post was based on my "lack of knowledge" about him. I don't frequent IHub, so I've had very limited exposure to him. I've read everything Doc has posted on allstocks for quite awhile and feel like I know him.
But you are correct ... I don't know Doctoall any better than I know lobogotti, so I shouldn't treat them any differently. And that means I shouldn't arbitrarily believe either one.
I don't mean that as an insult to them. I still like Doc's comments and look forward to reading anything he says. I might feel the same about lobogotti if I read more of his comments. But, as you've pointed out, selectively believing one "message board stranger" over another is not being objective or smart.
I try to judge people on "how" they present their thoughts rather on "what" they present, so I rate Doc very positive simply because he expresses himself well and is polite, even when attacked for what he says. I am judging you the same way. Although you've "disagreed" a little with some of my comments, you did so in an extremely professional and polite manner, and I respect that. Therefore, I will be more inclined to believe what you say in the future. And same for lobogotti if I ever get to "know" him.
The bottomline is ... thanks for helping me remain fair and objective. Although I will continue to think positively (a basic personality flaw), I will try to view all information equally, no matter who presented it.
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quote:Originally posted by GoodFella: Don't let these people get to you hagatha. They are living in a fantasy world and cannot stand any negative comments against QBID ... most pumpers here have absolutely no education whatsoever ... let alone any investment backgrounds.
GF If you re-read the comments you just referred to, you will find that most of us questioned the information because it lacked "proof", not because it was negative. Subsequent posts (also unproven) that disputed the original information about TW Houston dropping QTN made ALL the information questionable.
The issue is not whether the information was positive or negative, it's whether the information was true and accurate. I questioned the information for one simple reason ... no "proof". I don't remember anyone disputing the information simply because it was "negative" about Q's future. We just asked for a way to validate the information.
Your comments about those who questioned the information are as unfair and biased as you accuse them of being. You've accused honest attempts to validate information as "living in a fanasy world" and not being able to accept negatives about Q, when in reality we were trying to be objective by questioning all information, good or bad.
I find your other comments especially offensive, since it appears to me that you are attempting to "build yourself up by tearing others down". (This is a very common action by those with low self-esteem. I hope you seek help for this affliction.)
But first, define "pumper" for me. Is that anyone who chooses to see the Q in a positive light? Or is a Q-pumper anyone who does not agree with your negative opinions?
And your general comment about so-called pumpers ("Most pumpers here have absolutely no education whatsoever...") is both ludicrous and ignorant:
--Ludicrous because "absolutely no education whatsoever" means they have never (NEVER) been taught or trained in any subject, including basic childhood behavior. Not likely ... even if possible.
--And ignorant because you made such a LUDICROUS comment.
Please respond. I relish a good battle of wits ... especially when I am fighting an unarmed opponent.
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all im saying is this info is not delivered real profesionally. it may be true, it may not. I will believe it when it happens.
its not a real big deal.
if it is true it just means that it didnt make it in Houston TX. its not completely off of TW.
please by al means bring the info over, present it, and let people think what they want to think about it.
I can be sceptical of anyinfo i choose, and it doesnt make it right or wrong. taking everything cautiously is a good bet with this stock, whether it is good news or bad.
Rod
quote:Originally posted by hagatha: Ok folks. You can believe what you want to believe. I am merely sharing information which I believe to be credible. If you would prefer I don't share, then I won't in the future.
And as for "bashing", give me a break. This company has bashed itself into the ground. It needs noone else to do that job. And I am certainly not a basher. I hold over 6M shares of this crap. I would love nothing more than to see it run so I can take my investment and be rid of the drama.
But I am also a realist. I want information, good or bad. Unfortunately, the information coming out about this company is mostly bad. But it's self inflicted.
quote:Originally posted by Intimatrader: Lol... What credible source what post such a letter on april 1st { none }
That letter did not sound proffesional enough to me .
Had a touch of bashin in it and a smidge of bull.
I have a few million shares and am not worried AT ALL .I will let QBID work on solving their problems and be a good little share holder and wait .
Some people are giving information { good or bad } yet others are clearly bashers "kicking" QBID while it is down . No one is really talking about the powerful positives of the company .
PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS
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Let’s put this baby to rest. Houston and PlanetOut...no big loss. Again, these business ramifications were expected.
Just keep in mind there are many other cities in the United States like San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York, Fort Lauderdale, Palm Springs, New Orleans, Chicago and many more, big and small, where Q can also provide entertainment to their GLBT communities as well.
Most important, Q’s goal is to be global, so don’t forget there are many GLBT communities beyond North America like Asia, Europe, the Caribbean, Central America, the Middle East, Oceania and South America that we have yet to saturate.
To all new investors, it’s a long road we must travel, but a deep hole we must first climb out.
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So we still wait 2 steps forward and two steps backward, hopefully soon we will learn to walk in a straight line.
As for lobo, I have met him and I have a great deal of respect for him, he does his DD and is very good at it. Although we currently have opposing views on how "Q' will fair in the end, never the less his is a friend of mine and we both agree to disagree on some things and still be friends.
I choose to hold and wait it out, Lobo chose not to hold and waited no longer, that does not make either of us good or bad, just willing to take different risks at this time.
One thing is for certain if the pps were to start moving upward tomorrow morning, the mood swing on this board would need a ton of hormones to control
Still here and still choosing to hold, married to "Q" for better or worst.
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Very interesting bed partners, Q and OutTv now available on Select TV What ever happened to those old Pridevision/Outtv/QTN talks?
Is there any involvement on the part of Mr Fan with Pridevision/Outtv in Canada?
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SelectTV: Just took some time to read the SelectTv Prospectus on their investors page. Some very interesting stats concerning the gay market in their broadcast area. Also great details of their broadcast contract with QTN
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Doctoall, I was just wondering if you might be able to help me find the sight that the details of their contract is on. I just wanted to read it too. Thank you
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Can anyone give me an official web site to go to and see what the a/s is for this company, I tried looking it up on pinksheets and it says that the a/s is unavailable. Any info would be appreciated. Thank You
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Yeah, you just gotta love it. Jenn brought them up again the other day, and to be honest, I believe they will be one of only a handful of factors that keep us moving forward.
Naturally the official docs being the main one.
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Yeah, you just gotta love it. Jenn brought them up again the other day, and to be honest, I believe they will be one of only a handful of factors that keep us moving forward.
Naturally the official docs being the main one.
Thanks for the link. I have a question though: Can anyone who is getting Q advise on what original/daily shows are still in the line up? I understand The Jackie Jett show is probably gone (hopefully to come back). But what about the other shows/news/etc. Have we lost more shows? Have we seen any new shows?
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Because "imvho", TMM can no way backup any closer to the starting line than where they are at now. Meaning, regardlees how bad the official docs present TMM's current corporate/share structure, we have nowhere to go but forward.
Providing funds and smart management allow of course.
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quote:Originally posted by freebird68nj: Thanks for the link. I have a question though: Can anyone who is getting Q advise on what original/daily shows are still in the line up? I understand The Jackie Jett show is probably gone (hopefully to come back). But what about the other shows/news/etc. Have we lost more shows? Have we seen any new shows?
I have QTN, but don’t watch it very much at all because my wife can’t stand it (I’m not that crazy about it either). From what I have seen, I can tell you that the Reichen show is still on the air and the shows are new. The other shows I have seen lately are pretty much the same lineup as they have had for quite a while now, but I can’t tell you if they are producing new shows or showing some of the old ones over again. I mostly flip over to it in the evening, and have seen On Topic, On Q Live, The Reichen Show, and Queer Edge. I have been trying to watch enough of Queer Edge to see if they are producing new shows again, but I can’t stand Jack E Jett, so I can’t tolerate him for long (he and I are on opposite ends of the spectrum) and they don’t give any clues on the show as to when they were recorded/produced. I have not seen any new shows.
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Sam-Kudos for being a shareholder and subscribing to Q. The minute it is available in DC, I will sign up.
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I would not get excited about the SelecTV launch. As we all know, SelecTV is also a start up company with their launch happening this year (2006 - and they are running late) and we know how difficult that can be (hence QTN/TMM). Select does not offer many programs and broadcasting of QTN/OUT will be offered in Australia and New Zeland. I dont consider these areas to hign demad as say Europe. The contract between Q and SelecTV is 50%/50% on subscription. I dont think SelecTV will help Q subscriptions initially. IMO it will take 2-3 years before SelecTV establishes itself. Additinally, SelecTV's equipment is not compatible with most Australian existing equimpent. You find this info on their website. QTN CAN NOT be succesful with small and start-up company's or broadcasting in rural, non-demand areas. We need the big dogs like Dish, DireTV Comcast and Cox in areas like SF, LA, DC etc. Lloyd will needs to ensure that Q and staff are capable of producing quality demand programming before we go after the big dogs. Meanwhile lets hope we dont get dropped from any current markets/carriers.
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quote:Originally posted by Rich735: Speaking of global Qbid'n!!
Yeah, you just gotta love it. Jenn brought them up again the other day, and to be honest, I believe they will be one of only a handful of factors that keep us moving forward.
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The proof is in the pudding....if you did not see this coming god help you...Frank took everyones money....
News for 'QBID' - (Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc. Announces Failure to Deliver Financial Statements and Loss of Distribution in One Affiliate Market)
BURBANK, CA, Apr 05, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- Triangle Multi-Media Limited Inc. (OTC: QBID) announces that its will be unable to deliver audited financial statements due to the lack of required accounting records. In a March 24, 2006 press release, Lloyd Fan stated he was working on the Triangle Multi-Media books and hoped to release a financial statement in order to allow shareholders the fundamental data needed to make educated decisions on their investments.
Mr. Fan has worked diligently since March 7, 2006, the date of his appointment as Chairman and CEO of Triangle Multi-Media, to turn over all financial records to its accountant to have an audit conducted. "Day by day, it became more apparent that the proper records were not kept and that the necessary support documents for accounting entries are not available," stated Mr. Fan. "I am deeply disappointed by these discoveries and am working to find alternative solutions for the company," added Fan.
Additionally, Triangle Multi-Media's wholly owned subsidiary Q Television Network, Inc. was notified by an affiliate that its signal will be dropped in one market effective April 7, 2006.
Mr. Fan was unable to cure the late payments due to the financial difficulties caused by QTN's former management. At this time, it appears that the actual liabilities of Triangle Multi-Media and QTN are greater than the former management team had indicated. Mr. Fan has also discovered information that may indicate considerable accounting irregularities in Triangle Multi-Media.
Despite the challenges presented by the continuing investigation into the financial situation, Mr. Fan remains optimistic about the viability of the network.
About Q Television Network:
Q Television Network is a 100% wholly owned subsidiary of Triangle Multi-Media. This 24/7, premium television network is organized to create, develop and feature television programming for the gay and lesbian community, including live & interactive content every weeknight, plus sports, information and entertainment. While the company expects much of its subscriber base to be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population, management also believes that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will attract many other segments of the viewing public.
The company's programming is available on a subscription basis to those desiring to subscribe. The monthly fee varies by region of the country. The network is telecast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week and features a variety of live and original programming. Q Television is available on such blue chip cable systems as Time Warner, Cox communications and RCN, among others, with availability approaching 3 million digital cable households in the U.S. Q Television Network is the official network of Gay Games(R) VII. The network is also ad-supported. For further information on programming and subscriptions, please visit www.qtelevision.com.
Safe Harbor Statement
As a cautionary note to investors, certain matters discussed in this press release may be forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such matters involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially, including the following: changes in economic conditions; general competitive factors; the television network's ability to execute its business model and strategic plans; and the risks described from time to time in the company's Securities and Exchange Commission filings.
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Mr. Fan has also discovered information that may indicate considerable accounting irregularities in Triangle Multi-Media.----------------------------------- anyone surprised buy this. so mutch for a come back!. looks like no bid into the forseable future. oh well! maybe next time. GLTA.
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quote:Originally posted by kbcorp: Can anyone give me an official web site to go to and see what the a/s is for this company, I tried looking it up on pinksheets and it says that the a/s is unavailable. Any info would be appreciated. Thank You
No such animal...it is never going to be figured out.......
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