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quote:
Originally posted by Rich735:
From IHUB:
Posted by: HansenC
In reply to: wangdo who wrote msg# 239712 Date:4/2/2006 2:16:16 PM
Post #of 239760

I called up the number for TW Houston and they claim they are still carrying the network. They knew nothing about it. I spoke to both Billing and Sales. They did say that they were cancelling the Game Show Network.

And the mystery continues .... [Big Grin]

I agree with Rod (PennyTrader), who pointed out that most message board posts should not be believed, simply because they cannot be verified for accuracy and honesty.

I find it amazing that people will believe comments made on message boards no matter how ludicrous ... if the comments confirm their pre-conceived opinions.

Therefore, those who do not believe in Q will assume negative comments more readily than positive comments, and vice versa for those who believe in Q. It's basic human nature. Very few of us are inclined (or able) to accept anything we do not already believe.

Sometimes this generates positive results. Einstein once said that he always knew the results of his experiments ... and all he had to do was find a way to prove them.

This is a form of self-fulfilling prophecy, which simply stated says that the outcome of a situation is often dependent on what you expect that outcome to be.

Example: If people believe a stock's price will soon fall, they will react by selling their shares, which helps cause the stock to fall. Thus, their "prophecy" of a falling stock price was "self-fulfilled".

And the same for people who believe a stock's price will rise. They will react by refusing to sell their shares cheaply, thereby forcing others to pay more for any shares they buy.

The bottomline is that we still don't know squat about Q's business right now, and based on this we should not/cannot make an informed decision.

Sorry for soapboxing today ... but I'm doing my income taxes and will do anything to take a break. [Wink]

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I'm just saying that in the contents of this so-called letter, TW expresses that its not that the demand isn't there, that its because of financial and publicity that there removing Houston from carrying Q. Now if that was really the case don't you think TW would just cancel all of the carriage with Q. That is just my logical business oriented opinion on why I don't believe in this letter.
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Q'Bidn,

All im saying is this. I dont know much about this company and all the DD i have done basically have turned up a bunch of scams and BS. Im more interested in getting my 3k back out and taking it somewhere else. It sucks that you cant put in a sell order and expect it to sell within 24hrs atleast...Its been WEEKS. Whether its a poor company or not, the stock isnt going anywhere. Not now and not anytime soon. All im saying is,,,,, for heaven sake, i just want my MONEY back [Smile]

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K2snow, I think most here will agree that for shorts, good news will come very soon, as for longs...well thats an entirely different issue in itself.

Shorts willing to sell at .0001, in my opinion "should" be able to sell as soon as Fan puts out 1 or 2 PR's that contain enough information that warrant an investors positive judgment to buy QBID stock. Hence sending the pps up just enough to "stabilize" at or just above .0001. Again, this is just my opinion.

Be patient. I think if you want out at .0001 you'll eventually get out.

Of course, if .00005 will suffice...PM me. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by K2snow:
Q'Bidn,

All im saying is this.... ,,,,, for heaven sake, i just want my MONEY back [Smile]

Welcome to the world of investing....How many times have I said that with QBID and other companies where I have lost money. Lucky, I did sell my shares at .0001 a month ago and I did lose about 7K. However, that was a planned "loss" so I could claim the tax loss, I have bought back half those shares at .00008, so I guess in a sense I did make something if one want to look positive on it.

As far as selling now, you might as well just hold on and wait and see what Fan does. Because, what is going to happen, your sell order for .0001 will get filled at .0001, but then the share price will have gone to .0002 or maybe even .0003 and the you will be kicking yourself in the ass for selling and losing that MONEY when may be you didn't have to!

What you need to do, is Double Down and buy the same amount of shares you have now at .0001 or lower, then sell them 30 days later to avoid the Wash Sell, then you will have your tax loss for the year of 5K and have the same amount of shares.

However, we also must be concern about a possible Reverse Split.

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2 points...

Why would you only believe a pr? Most of them to this point have been bogus or exaggerated.

Do you really think they will spend the money to pr the fact that they lost one of their carrier cities? Or even bother to post it on the website? They barely give us any credible GOOD news. They are not going to give us the bad. We (all along) have had to find that out for ourselves.

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Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
no disrepect but i dont know the poster, and i really dont know you that much either.

im big about seeing the actual info in a pr or a reputable news source.

and as i stated, the fact that this info is posted on a Saturday, April fools day?

i have to question the validity of this info.

im not saying it is not true. and i respect that you feel that this poster is solid.

there are people that feel that David Janis is a good guy and there are those that feel that he is a scam. the same holds true with lobogotti, and Skunksyard and im sure myself as well.

i prefer to see this in a pr thats all.

Rod


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Originally posted by hagatha:
That poster was not one to play that kind of joke. Believe it or not, it's up to you. I guess we will find out on April 7.

quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
it was posted on april fools day. I would take it with a grain of salt.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by kbcorp:
Where did this person see this letter at and why didn't they post a site for it. Or was there never any letter to begin with?





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Word has it that part of the deal with Q being carried in Houston was that Q pay TW $250K for the first year. They have not met that financial obiligation. And, if you call TW, it is unlikely (so quickly after the letter being sent) that a phone jockey is going to know if it has been cancelled. How many times did folks call carriers that were announced and the customer service people were not yet aware that they were carrying the channel?

All I'm saying is I think the post is credible. On April 7 I will be calling TW Houston to see if it is still available.

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Originally posted by kbcorp:
I'm just saying that in the contents of this so-called letter, TW expresses that its not that the demand isn't there, that its because of financial and publicity that there removing Houston from carrying Q. Now if that was really the case don't you think TW would just cancel all of the carriage with Q. That is just my logical business oriented opinion on why I don't believe in this letter.


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You are confusing me....

Don't shorts "buy to cover", not sell? They already "sold short" at higher levels and now need to "buy to cover" at the bottom levels. And god knows there are plenty of shares out there to buy.

I'm not understanding your post.

quote:
Originally posted by QBID'n:
K2snow, I think most here will agree that for shorts, good news will come very soon, as for longs...well thats an entirely different issue in itself.

Shorts willing to sell at .0001, in my opinion "should" be able to sell as soon as Fan puts out 1 or 2 PR's that contain enough information that warrant an investors positive judgment to buy QBID stock. Hence sending the pps up just enough to "stabilize" at or just above .0001. Again, this is just my opinion.

Be patient. I think if you want out at .0001 you'll eventually get out.

Of course, if .00005 will suffice...PM me. [Big Grin]


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We are less than 3 months from the Gay Games, and IMO there is no way that QTN can be up and running at 100% to be able to broadcast the event in 150 "markets" that quick. I think Lloyd will have to work out some sort of deal with LOGO. Maybe LOGO will buy QTN...

On a different topic.. has anyone wondered just how much money it cost Lloyd to take over QTN/TMM? And how much money did Frankie the Fraudster and Rene the Smuck receive? I hope that as part of Lloyd's transparecy plan - we can find this info.

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quote:
Originally posted by hagatha:
You are confusing me....

Don't shorts "buy to cover", not sell? They already "sold short" at higher levels and now need to "buy to cover" at the bottom levels. And god knows there are plenty of shares out there to buy.

I'm not understanding your post.



He's not talking about short sellers. He's talking about people wanting to sell (hold for only a short time) vs. longs (who are waiting for a huge return on investment)
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.0008???? Holy sh#$

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Wouldnt that be nice is this stock REALLY did just hit .0008
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No trading going through though
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scottrade says 22 million shares went through at that price...glitch?

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.0008 must have been a fat finger. Makes the account look better. Dreamin on.
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that .0008 was obviously a fat finger trade - more than likely that should have been .00008, which is within our trading range. Below is the actual transaction, total and time.

10:26:48 2250000 0.0008 + OTCEQ_NBB

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a mistake huh? that person is jumping out his office window now if he bought at .0008 LOL

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I wonder if theres a way to sue Frank for how much he's worth. I would think he qualifies as a bonafide fraud after all the PRs that were contrary to fact. IMO
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that would be REALLLLLLLLLLLY nice!!!
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Man my acount looked so nice with that 700 percent gain...now its back to normal...reality sucks!

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put in an open market order and get what you can out of it. the point is the money is not yours now. you handed it over and you bought shares.

they have devaluated.

do you buy a car and then a month later decide to sell it and expect your full purchase price back? no, but if you hold on to it for 20 years and keep in immaculate, then maybe you would get your original purchase price back.

point is this. you seem to think this stock is not going to go anywhere, you want out, then sell at market instead of a limit price, and you will get the going price for your shares.

Stop crying about your $3000 we dont care. there are others here that have up to 10 times that money investing into this and they are not crying like you.

If you cant afford to loose 3 grand then you should never have invested in the first place. this is an adults game, and if you cant take the wins with the losses then you my friend are not mature enough to be playing the game.

why did you buy this stock in the first place with out doing dd? that is ludacris.

Rod


quote:
Originally posted by K2snow:
Q'Bidn,

All im saying is this. I dont know much about this company and all the DD i have done basically have turned up a bunch of scams and BS. Im more interested in getting my 3k back out and taking it somewhere else. It sucks that you cant put in a sell order and expect it to sell within 24hrs atleast...Its been WEEKS. Whether its a poor company or not, the stock isnt going anywhere. Not now and not anytime soon. All im saying is,,,,, for heaven sake, i just want my MONEY back [Smile]



[ April 03, 2006, 11:14: Message edited by: Penny-Trader ]

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Dont buy or sell on my opinions, do your research. Make sure you know what you are buying before you buy.

This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.

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Why are you so concerned that i dont buy that story?

what difference does it make.

there was another post here from someone at IHUB that called and discredited that story. im sure that someone feels that that poster is solid as well.

whats the difference, the point is you want me to believe your angle, and are going out of your way to make me believe that angle.

fact of the mater is whether or not it is or is not true, only time will tell. there is nothing official either way that backs up that claim.

if it is true, it doesn't really matter as they are only pulling form one market, that for the most part is very anti gay in the first place.

Im sorry if you don't like the fact that i dont buy the story, you believe what you want and i will believe what i want. at the end of the day our pps is still the same and nothing has changed that.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by hagatha:
2 points...

Why would you only believe a pr? Most of them to this point have been bogus or exaggerated.

Do you really think they will spend the money to pr the fact that they lost one of their carrier cities? Or even bother to post it on the website? They barely give us any credible GOOD news. They are not going to give us the bad. We (all along) have had to find that out for ourselves.

quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
no disrepect but i dont know the poster, and i really dont know you that much either.

im big about seeing the actual info in a pr or a reputable news source.

and as i stated, the fact that this info is posted on a Saturday, April fools day?

i have to question the validity of this info.

im not saying it is not true. and i respect that you feel that this poster is solid.

there are people that feel that David Janis is a good guy and there are those that feel that he is a scam. the same holds true with lobogotti, and Skunksyard and im sure myself as well.

i prefer to see this in a pr thats all.

Rod


quote:
Originally posted by hagatha:
That poster was not one to play that kind of joke. Believe it or not, it's up to you. I guess we will find out on April 7.

quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
it was posted on april fools day. I would take it with a grain of salt.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by kbcorp:
Where did this person see this letter at and why didn't they post a site for it. Or was there never any letter to begin with?







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Dont buy or sell on my opinions, do your research. Make sure you know what you are buying before you buy.

This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.

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quote:
Originally posted by K2snow:
Q'Bidn,

All im saying is this. I dont know much about this company and all the DD i have done basically have turned up a bunch of scams and BS. Im more interested in getting my 3k back out and taking it somewhere else. It sucks that you cant put in a sell order and expect it to sell within 24hrs atleast...Its been WEEKS. Whether its a poor company or not, the stock isnt going anywhere. Not now and not anytime soon. All im saying is,,,,, for heaven sake, i just want my MONEY back [Smile]

If your DD turned up a bunch of scams and bs, why did you invest $3k?

You only take a loss if you sell. Your choice. Since you cant really sell right now, you might as well kick back and see what happens like the rest of us.

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Speaking of being dropped from markets... did anyone notice that QTN is no longer on PlanetOut? I could'nt find it. It must be another QTN breach of contract/payment. Man, Frankie the Fraudster really eF'ed things up!

Lloyd you've got some hard work ahead of you.

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Oh, sorry. Misunderstood the post. Was on my first cup of coffee!

quote:
Originally posted by Esteban99:
quote:
Originally posted by hagatha:
You are confusing me....

Don't shorts "buy to cover", not sell? They already "sold short" at higher levels and now need to "buy to cover" at the bottom levels. And god knows there are plenty of shares out there to buy.

I'm not understanding your post.



He's not talking about short sellers. He's talking about people wanting to sell (hold for only a short time) vs. longs (who are waiting for a huge return on investment)

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Point taken. I'm really not concerned whether you believe it or not. I tend to believe it, with the way things have gone for this company. But you are right, neither of us will know for sure until April 7. No need to get upset about it.

quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
Why are you so concerned that i dont buy that story?

what difference does it make.

there was another post here from someone at IHUB that called and discredited that story. im sure that someone feels that that poster is solid as well.

whats the difference, the point is you want me to believe your angle, and are going out of your way to make me believe that angle.

fact of the mater is whether or not it is or is not true, only time will tell. there is nothing official either way that backs up that claim.

if it is true, it doesn't really matter as they are only pulling form one market, that for the most part is very anti gay in the first place.

Im sorry if you don't like the fact that i dont buy the story, you believe what you want and i will believe what i want. at the end of the day our pps is still the same and nothing has changed that.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by hagatha:
2 points...

Why would you only believe a pr? Most of them to this point have been bogus or exaggerated.

Do you really think they will spend the money to pr the fact that they lost one of their carrier cities? Or even bother to post it on the website? They barely give us any credible GOOD news. They are not going to give us the bad. We (all along) have had to find that out for ourselves.

quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
no disrepect but i dont know the poster, and i really dont know you that much either.

im big about seeing the actual info in a pr or a reputable news source.

and as i stated, the fact that this info is posted on a Saturday, April fools day?

i have to question the validity of this info.

im not saying it is not true. and i respect that you feel that this poster is solid.

there are people that feel that David Janis is a good guy and there are those that feel that he is a scam. the same holds true with lobogotti, and Skunksyard and im sure myself as well.

i prefer to see this in a pr thats all.

Rod


quote:
Originally posted by hagatha:
That poster was not one to play that kind of joke. Believe it or not, it's up to you. I guess we will find out on April 7.

quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
it was posted on april fools day. I would take it with a grain of salt.

Rod

quote:
Originally posted by kbcorp:
Where did this person see this letter at and why didn't they post a site for it. Or was there never any letter to begin with?







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what happens on the 7th?
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its rumoured that q is being taken off of TW in Houston Texas. it was posted on April 1st at IHUB.

i suspect a April Fools prank.

but we will find out on the 7th

Rod

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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards.
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Unfortunately, for the time being it doesn't really matter... on Friday April 7th, 2006 the QBID PPS will still be at .0000/.0001 wheter it be good or bad news or true or false rumors.

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Originally posted by buzzygresham:
what happens on the 7th?


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jack jett posted ihub....


Posted by: skunkfish
In reply to: thomasagaughan who wrote msg# 240226 Date:4/3/2006 1:42:04 PM
Post #of 240230


thomas

thanks so much for the kind words. i will pass it on to the fine folks who...were working...like me......80 hour weeks at a very minimal rate....(more recently ZERO).
i recieve several emails a day from various investors. i understand the pain involved in loosing money. the blame game does not help in moving forward.

jack jett

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if you haven't seen yet...


Mr. Fan's business card

http://photos.yahoo.com/qtelevision

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Over at I-hub it's rumoured that The new owner is vacating the Q shares and going private, I just sold all my shares at market.
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what was market?

.00002 fri....

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How do you vacate shares?
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OOPS that was a mistake I have to write a check to my broker to cover the remainder of my 9.95 flat fee, darn I should have held on a little longer.
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