quote:Originally posted by DIGDOUGH: Gator, this is just speculation too, but if carriers keep taking on Q wouldn't that be an indication that people are subscribing. Not that you said they aren't. I'm not sure they want a lineup that nobody watches. I'm not an expert on their criteria either.
You have a point. But you still need enough subscribers to make a profit. So indirectly getting more carriers will raise the pps, but I think it will be profit anouncements that turn the corner.
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quote:Originally posted by Clyde_Crashcup: I will be surprised if this doesn't cause the pps to rise. A year ago, everyone was waiting for a TW carrier PR. Here it is, and a huge one IMO.
what everyonoe has to realize is that this news of NYC was already built into the stockprice...90% of all investors already knew of NYC, because of the CC...
so the good news is it is offical we will be on this thursday, the rest of the world will know about it, and thus we will be getting much more articles written saying QTN now aviable in NYC...
all in all this is huge news, but we already knew about it, so dont expect anything big
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quote:Originally posted by GatorMan: I'm going to offer up some predictions here (no, I don't have any inside information, I'm just speculating).
1. Carrier announcements will not move the price significantly (although a major satellite carrier may for a time). 2. The audit release will not move the price significantly (except, see #3). 3. AUDITED earnings results will move the price significantly.
When people see profits that is when they will become interested. We can be on every carrier in the world but if no one subscribes it's useless.
Gator All excellent points.
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Wow, just wow. Frank releases a PR about expanding into NYC and here we have clear and concrete evidence of dilution into the PR. What more do we need? He should feel obligated to tell us exactly how many shares he estimates this "registered shareholder" has left to dump.
About the Market Valuation We've heard from Doc that Frank say's he has put as much as 22 million into the company himself. Since we know Frank's stake is %53, that means that the market value is somewhere around $41.5 million. I would not be surprised if we find out exactly that with the audit. And when we do, the PPS *MAY* (big emphasis on the "may") rise as high as .0008 assuming there are no surprises and as high as .0014 assuming there are surprises.
If you are holding out for .0050, you will never see it. Frank has pretty much diluted this one to Never Never land.
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no use worrying about it... Q will get its act together someday... these are just small signs that steps are being taken in the right direction. cool Posts: 2794 | From: nyc | Registered: Aug 2005
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I'm off to close my deal on the 4 acres that I need Q to finance my new ranch with. Here comes all the dilution stuff again. As long as the shares are low Franks kids are going to suffer too. Maybe not as much as Jerry's kids, but some.
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quote:Originally posted by DIGDOUGH: Ya. subscribers=profit=inv interest. Ya.
DIG I agree with that.
Profits will attract true investors, such as fund managers, but even lesser news will attract the speculative investor (which most of us are) and generate interest. PPS value boils down to supply and demand. When more investors start bidding for the available shares, the PPS will rise.
This is a point that many shareholders don't seem to realize when they criticize Q PRs as "fluff": Any positive news about Q attracts the attention of prospective investors. We already know so much about Q that we often forget that "millions" of people have never heard of Q. The PR today should reach a few million people ... many of whom will invest a few bucks into Q.
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The carriers must have faith in Frank and "Q" because they would not be opening up new markets if they felt that they were not going to make money.
Remember in most cases they have to drop another program to free up a channel and "Q" must be better to carry than the one they dropped.
Also in the past we were told that the carriers had to know that "Q" was financially sound before they decided to carry them.
And we continue to add carriers and markets.
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We have seen most of the trades at .0005... when .0005 is the ask, we get a ton of buys, then when it is the bid, we get tons of dumping so something is up with that price...
Monster volume though so far for 1 hour Volume = 236M
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Not another pr. Every pr for the past year has made the pps go down. Where's the audit frank?
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quote:Originally posted by holmes: Not another pr. Every pr for the past year has made the pps go down. Where's the audit frank?
holmes Most of us expect the audit next week, as Q announced. So no use worrying till then. If it comes this week, so much the better. If it doesn't come next week ... we'll deal with that next week. So be patient ... I hate waiting too, but we don't have much choice.
And this PR was very good news, just as many other recent PRs were very good news for the long-term. I won't try to explain why the PPS has reacted "negatively" following positive PRs. No one here knows, despite some self-proclaimed experts who express their opinions over and over as fact.
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anyways guys...if u guys dont believe me its still ok..but i talked to frank on monday and he told me that..one other thing he told me was "the stock price is lousy , but within two weeks, u will be happy happy happy " ...so i guess we just have to wait for that audit..atleast were the closest we have ever been ..hehe.
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Like others, I believe 100% in "Q", and ultimately, I believe I will be rewarded. And am I obsessed with the potential of Q and it's unending posibilities..yes!!!
"Q" will be a successful long!
So with that said, as a rookie investor, I felt the need to reply to the following assumption that I, personally am getting tired of reading.
quote: Originally posted by XXXX:
[QB] [QUOTE] Originally posted by XXXX: Really? They could explode and make huge cash when they do. I know a lot of people have been long on QBID for instance for a long time now.
quote: Thats the dream that has burnt so many new investors in this market. But it seems no one wants advice from the long time investors in the sub penny market. They just have to get burnt several tines then they learn. Usually after a year in this market.
There is no long term play in this market but saying that I know you won't listen. Just remember this after you do learn and don't just say, I won't invest in this market again as many do.
Just learn how the game is played and play the game and you can make money at this level. I guarantee that anyone that tells you to hold this penny stock long that it will take off soon has been holding on for way too long and is just hoping that if they can get enough new investors to sign up it can make this move. But for every new long term investor the company probably just added that many shares to the market in the form of dilution. Not only causing the stock not to increase in value but in fact decrease.
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...ahhh BULLSH*T!!! XXXX...never thought I'd ever have to react like this, but as a rookie, I'm just sick and tired of reading about how a seasoned investor, like yourself, can go as far to repeatedly state, and I quote, "There is no long term play in this market". Man thats not a respectful warning. Due to your own bad investments, thats your self-denial in refusing there are longs.
In this sub penny market there have been longs, and someone like you should know that. Don't cast a shadow down on us rookies just because you may have been burned a time or two.
Getting burned occasionally is only one element of "high risk" in this market and thats it! It does not mean that no one can never find a long.
Investors in this market, as they continue to invest, will, eventually find a long, maybe two. So do the rookies, such as myself, a favor and keep your negative experiences out of the risk/reward ratio equation. Because until we find our long, we would rather just make the best of our experiences here on Allstock's without the false testaments.
QBID'n Faithfully 5M "LONG"
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better late than never your words seem to be accurate as of late, please keep your imfo coming, i am already bought in completely on this one so like a lot of others it will not sway a buy or sell on my part
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something i dont know to much about, but it seems like this news is for all of New york state that has Time warner cable...!!!???
im a little confused about this, but it seems that new york and new jersey are in the same scenario as maine...this would be even better news, if its true
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LOTS of dumping going on... I guess Frankie needs some mula so he released a PR and now he's selling into the news???
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yes agree.lots of dumping going on..buy back and audit will be a combo and we see it rise
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Just hold a little longer pennnies. More shares I am sure are being dumped. But if TW and other carriers keep on coming aboard, they see something good in all this. We need for the Q to be all over the country, and it seems like they are slowly getting it done. I would say we don't see much up in th pps until a year or two. More subscribers and money will be coming in and the pps will go up. We are all frustrated, and this takes time, we all knew that. People saw this jump to 2 or 3 cents and now want it to jump like that again really quick. Not sure where this will go to, but I would be happy with .03 right now.
Dave
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quote:Originally posted by davidjanas: yes agree.lots of dumping going on..buy back and audit will be a combo and we see it rise
come on guys...are you watching the trading...yes there is dumping going on, its not coming from the restricted shareholder and its mostly being bought and sold from the same MM at the same price... JEFF will sit on bid , buy 50M, then immidately go on ask and sell that 50M...
in fact i have seen many more .0006 than .0004...you have to understand that about 50% of these .0005 trades are buys, so whos buying it all??
either frank is buying back, or the MM are trading back and forth between themselves, because we have held this area for far to long, and between all us longs, i dont see no more than 100M combined buys for the last 9 days...so somebody is holding us up, or its MM trading shares back and forth...
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well folks im adding a million right now if it will fill me at .0005. so far no luck we seem to be at a stand still .im happy with the way things seem to be rolling.obviously nobody is happy with the pps but this is a great time for those that truly beleive in the 2-5 year plan of this company to add shares.best of luck to you all sincerely noah.
long live qbidiots.
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quote:Originally posted by Clyde_Crashcup: I will be surprised if this doesn't cause the pps to rise. A year ago, everyone was waiting for a TW carrier PR. Here it is, and a huge one IMO.
what everyonoe has to realize is that this news of NYC was already built into the stockprice...90% of all investors already knew of NYC, because of the CC...
so the good news is it is offical we will be on this thursday, the rest of the world will know about it, and thus we will be getting much more articles written saying QTN now aviable in NYC...
all in all this is huge news, but we already knew about it, so dont expect anything big
This is not directed at you MT, but much more of a general statement in regards to your comment and the comments I have seen of many others about "...90% of all investors already knew of NYC, because of the CC...".
People on the message boards seem to live in this imaginary fish bowl world and believe that if "we know, they all know". It is just not the case. I would be willing to bet that more than half of the people that own stock in Q have never heard the conference call. In fact I can say for sure that I know a bunch of people that have never been to this or any other message board in regards to QBID and have never heard the conference call AND own stock. Some of them quite a bit. Hell, I have never even bothered listening to the conference call. What's the point?
QBID is a nonreporting, can say whatever they want and change their mind later, lottery ticket, pos, pink sheet.
I am not at all discounting the potential of Q Television as a network or a content producer, but we tend to get a little carried away around here thinking that people have the time or the inclination to care about every snippet of info that comes out of this company's mouth. I know I don't, nor do I care. If I cared about credible and valid information I wouldn't be investing in a pink.
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