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quote:
Originally posted by Penny-Trader:
FOT your alright. I know what you are saying.

it is frustrating see that they are still diluting.

I still feel that MTs theory of dilution is still in effect.

just because Richard is telling us that it is not happening doesnt mean it isnt.

he assured us in a phone call that i have recorded that there was no dilution and that the os is still what was stated at the last CC. a week later Frank tells us that we are at 19.5 billion.

Fact is they are not going to tell you that they are diluting.

untill we turn a proffit i fully expect that Frank will be bleeding shares into the market. he has to to survive. Yes he has money coming in from the private investors, but not enough to cover all the cost of wages and what have you.

MT is right on the money if you ask me, but that is only my opinion.

I hate to think that way, but it is true. that is why we are still on the pinks, because Frank needs to be on the pinks.

If Frank is correct in that we will break even in the new year, and proffitable by end of first quarter. then i would not expect to see a new exchange till after that.

it sucks but it makes sence.

Rod

yeah rod i appreciate your comments...

i do believe that is what is going on, and im sure many other agree as it really is the only plausible cause...

Now, Richard may be right in saying "no dilution", so what VERT could be holding are restricted shares....

And i have also seen it again, not on this board i dont think, but to clear it up one more time...

TO get onto another exchange we DO NOT NEED to reverse split or reduce the float...
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE beteen the pinks and the otcbb is having submitted an audit to the sec and becoming fully reporting every quarter...thats it.

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You're ugly and your mother dresses you funny. [Big Grin]

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Originally posted by keithsan:
someone told me to come here and get banned.

what do I have to do make fun of qbid or a poster?


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What a long day in the classroom?
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quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
--> LETTER REVISED <--
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10/17/2005 - Q&A on Message Boards (revised)

Dear Shareholders,

***The company has also asked me to ask shareholders not to respond to posters you think may have an agenda. It is my belief and the companies that these people are somehow rewarded by responses. We understand how difficult this will be, but we feel this will help our cause in ridding these people from the boards. Thanks

Thank you for allowing me to answer some concerns you had. Like we discussed, there will always be disgruntled investors attacking whatever or whoever they can to hurt a company. Remember, QTN/TMM has an open door policy and although all of us are very busy, we will answer any concern you may have. I promise you this, no poster on the message boards know anymore than the rest of you in regards to the business structure of QTN or TMM. If you decide to believe what they have to say fine, but understand you are listening to a person that has an agenda to spin.

I am outraged at the length some individuals will go and equally as perplexed as to the reason. It's evident these individuals do not own stock in TMM and to post hundreds of times a day is unbelievable.

For shareholders that could not be a part of today's discussion:

Frank is NOT HIV

I have never been associated with the firm that some represented I was with and I have never been in trouble with the SEC

I am the only Richard Brown at Equity Relations. My father was an officer of Equity Relations, but has never had interaction with the company and has never been in a finance related position for any company

TMM is not liquidating itself

Frank Olsen has controlling voting rights of TMM and QTN

VC's (Venture Capitalists) DO NOT control any portion of QTN or TMM

We will prosecute all individuals posting fallacies on the internet

We have been in contact with the parent companies that run these websites and they are working with us

IF TMM and ITS SUBSIDIARIES i.e. QTN, etc. is sold shareholders will be directly compensated based upon the tender offer

As for the rest of the questions, please dial in to the conference call on Wednesday. The details are listed on the Investor's section of the website.

Richard Brown

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"Frank Is Not HIV" -? or +? Might want to fix this.

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Emotions running way too high today. Let's keep our eyes on the money, folks. Pissing contests should be held at the urinals only.

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quote:
Originally posted by Bob Frey:
What a long day in the classroom?

you wouldn't believe me if I told you!


nahh just wife out, came to see what all the whinning was about.

long ibm? thought it would drop on the correction, it went up.

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quote:
Originally posted by Bob Frey:
What a long day in the classroom?

Boy, I'll say. Talk about a violation of civil rights in regards for monetary profits.

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I hope you're wrong, but it was my decision to invest in a sub-penny pink stock. If it turns out I've been conned, I'll blame no one but myself. Likewise if I succeed.

For me, bailing out at a loss is not an option, and I'm very confident that all it's going to take to succeed in this is time.

All IMO, as always.

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Originally posted by Dew-it:
I am firm believe in not being a victim of anything.... But it is my opinion and interpretation the Q is crying "victim." We had Frank post on Fri and Richard updated the investors page twice today and was on RB defending himself, Frank and the Q. Why is all this happening a couple of days before the CC on Wed. It seems to me that all these communications and investor updates a prelude to a negative CC outcome. I am not getting a good feeling from all this. Maybe I am being paranoid, but its seems like wer are being set up for failure...Any input or thougts.


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I like the sound of that! Them's fightin' words! Go get 'em, Frank!

TMM is not liquidating itself

Frank Olsen has controlling voting rights of TMM and QTN

VC's (Venture Capitalists) DO NOT control any portion of QTN or TMM

We will prosecute all individuals posting fallacies on the internet

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quote:
Originally posted by MillerTIME:
Hey sorry Fo2....i did come accross real rude and that was uncalled for....as soon as i had posted it i knew i went to far...

Sorry for acting that way

np...

for all to know.. I am very much in support of QBID making me some money. I think that they will make me a small bundle. All I am doing is pointing out the obvious that no matter how great the PR's sound, no matter how much progress they are making, the pps is not going to take off while someone is dumping shares. 700 mill traded today with no movement!

I, like many others here have been through 1 CC already. The outcome of that was... not real positive. They indicated that the shell was dirty and it would take a long time to becoming reporting. Well, a long time later, here we are, and I do believe that we are close to reporting, however, Frank is not going to release the audit details or reporting information during the CC. My gut instinct is that the CC will be positive with many forward looking comments, and some bragging about their accomplishments, which they should be proud of. HOWEVER, the real information that we all are looking for is going to be absent, and this IMHO will make a few here upset and disgruntled that they have been waiting so long with no positive outcome, which when they sell, just like the last CC, will cause a selloff, IMHO back to .0005 or .0006 bid.

Do I see the pps going lower than that.. yes... but only if the audit details do not come out like they supposedly are promising by the end of Oct. If and when they release the audit information, I believe we see a nice spike to maybe .0025. I do not believe that the pps will go much higher than that because there are too many people here holding way too many shares for a really long time.

My motives are as follows. I am waiting to reenter and take a position in Q. I have standing orders in at .0006 and .0005. If Frank releases the information that I am looking for, I can easily adjust my orders and I do not mind paying as much as .0011 for the shares, as long as I know that we are in an uptrend and they are not selling into it! Right now, every tick down is at least 11%, so if I guess wrong, I am already down pretty big! I feel as though I am not losing anything by sitting on the sidelines, whereas, if I buy in and it goes down a couple ticks, I am automatically down 20% or more.

I am still watching VERT adn his activities as I still believe that he is the main culprit for the dilution of shares.

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Thanks for the hard work today Doc!!
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SEC may need to be monitoring this site a little more closely.

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Straight from the horse's mouth.

TMM is not liquidating itself

At: http://www.qtelevision.com/site/investorinfo.asp

Anyone still care to dispute this?

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I'm glad I left RB for Allstocks when I did!!!

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MillerTime... your PM box is full! Delete one for me [Smile]

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LOL. Agreed. RB is unreadable now.

quote:
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I'm glad I left RB for Allstocks when I did!!!


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Thank you Richard.
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quote:
Originally posted by keithsan:
someone told me to come here and get banned.

what do I have to do make fun of qbid or a poster?

Too Funny [Smile]

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I can appreciate everyone's positive attitude about the Q... I had a similar positive attitude before too. However, I have lost several thousand just waiting, and I am a little upset about being deceived. I will make my money back in the Q, and I agree, it is a difficult market right now, and I think that timing a good reentry in Q will not be to much further in the future.

Please understand that I am VERY positive on Q as they have a great product in an underserved market. As far as the pps right now, I don't understand why Frank doesn't use his assets as collateral for a loan to repurchase shares. He could sell a portion of the shares at a later date to regain his capital and pay back the loans. I would assume however, that the key to doing something like this is that they need to be fully reporting, which is what I like many others are waiting for.

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quote:
Originally posted by Peaser01:
quote:
Originally posted by Bob Frey:
What a long day in the classroom?

Boy, I'll say. Talk about a violation of civil rights in regards for monetary profits.
Just thought I'd clear up your civil rights for you. Regardless of how much censorship Allstocks.com or it's members place onto others, it is not a violation of civil rights.

The only entity that is not allowed to censor and prohibit speech or forms of communication is the government. Even then there are certain forms of communication that walk a thin line.

Not relating to civil rights, I am unsure of the legalities of people talking slander or fallacies on a company that could prohibit growth and overall business. On the other hand, I see no reason why people would be prohibited from "pumping" a company, but I do see reason for a company to be punished for doing so. Do we all see the difference?

I'm sure others are more experienced on the matter. Matt

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so where does everyone honestly "think" this stock will go too? i have stoped watching it everyday because in all honesty it drives me nuts to do so, but i do check the board to get the infom from MT and people who post quality info on here not just their opinions.

but today i decided to watch it with the meeting happening in a couple of days and wow what a day of action - but at the end of the day we close at another drop. so again the disappointment continues. i am definitly in this for the long term but jeez - whats the deal here?

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FOT, I have said the same exact thing. If their Business Plan, Growing revenues and assets can enable Frank to obtain a sizeable loan with generous terms (like a balloon mortgage where you pay more at a later date) to give Q a chance to buyback cheap shares and reduce the float, then when Q is running on all cylinders in a year or 2, sell less shares at a higher price and repay the loan.
With it mentioned many times how the GLBT has over 600 billion in income, forget a bank, perhaps some investors could give him better options than he has now. Someone said from the open house he has to pay back loans from investors with double-digit rates, this is too high. To buy 10-15 billion shares = 10-15 million at .0010 pps. This is nothing!

c'mon Frank, stop blaming bashers!!

quote:
Originally posted by FatherOfTwo:
I can appreciate everyone's positive attitude about the Q... I had a similar positive attitude before too. However, I have lost several thousand just waiting, and I am a little upset about being deceived. I will make my money back in the Q, and I agree, it is a difficult market right now, and I think that timing a good reentry in Q will not be to much further in the future.

Please understand that I am VERY positive on Q as they have a great product in an underserved market. As far as the pps right now, I don't understand why Frank doesn't use his assets as collateral for a loan to repurchase shares. He could sell a portion of the shares at a later date to regain his capital and pay back the loans. I would assume however, that the key to doing something like this is that they need to be fully reporting, which is what I like many others are waiting for.


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Doc, FOT, as always, thanks for your insight and analysis. I'm learning every day.

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Posted on Gay365.com today.

Tinseltown Dish
by Flaven Ritcherson
365Gay.com Entertainment

And why am I not surprised at a media study that shows gays and lesbians watch more than Logo, QTV, and here!

Simmons research seems surprised at finding we like mainstream network and cable shows too. Among the favorites for gay men are Comedy Central's "South Park" and shows on Discovery, Spike TV, A&E, Bravo, Sci Fi, HGTV and yes even CNN and Fox. Well, Fox may have been slightly surprising.

Lesbians are likely to watch HBO, A&E, USA, ESPN, Discovery, Lifetime, Showtime, Bravo, TNT, and Starz.

©365Gay.com 2005


The more exposure the better [Big Grin] Take a look at the entire article it is interesting.

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What an interesting day over on RB, who knows maybe we can rate a visit from Richard here on Allstocks [Big Grin]

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Looks like Ihub gets Richard next.

Posted by: lobogotti
In reply to: None Date:10/17/2005 6:06:04 PM
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looks like we will have a chance to clear up any rumors or questions that we were not clear of after the CC......start from the bottom


From: "Equity Relations, Inc." <staff*equityrelations.com> Save to addressbook
To: clayton*mynetwire.com
Subject: RE:
Date: Mon, 17 October 2005 16:08:52


One hour

Richard Brown
Equity Relations, Inc.
Creating Synergy Between Company and Investor
Office: 617-314-7379
Email: Staff*equityrelations.com
Web: www.equityrelations.com


-----Original Message-----
From: clayton*mynetwire.com [mailto:clayton*mynetwire.com]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 4:54 PM
To: Equity Relations, Inc.
Subject: RE:

Can I post this email to my fellow shareholders? Also, I can set it up
so that you can post unlimited for that day as there is a limit to how
much you can post.

Sounds good, I really like the direction of honesty that you guys are
shooting for. This in the long run will help the PPS, that is for sure.

Please let me know if you care whether or not I post this on the Hub.

Thanks,
Clayton

-----Original Message-----
From: "Equity Relations, Inc." <staff*equityrelations.com>
Sent: Mon, 17 October 2005 14:59:16
To: clayton*mynetwire.com
Subject: RE:

Clayton,

I would be happy to. As unconventional as this seems, I feel the true
shareholders should have a voice. I'll post next week after all
shareholders have had a chance to digest the CC.

I will post on the website the day and time.

Richard Brown
Equity Relations, Inc.
Creating Synergy Between Company and Investor
Office: 617-314-7379
Email: Staff*equityrelations.com
Web: www.equityrelations.com


-----Original Message-----
From: clayton*mynetwire.com [mailto:clayton*mynetwire.com]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 10:37 AM
To: staff*equityrelations.com
Subject:

Richard,

I see you are going on RB to clear any rumors that have been spread.
Would you consider going to iHUB for a few, we have a much larger
following than RB?

I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,
Clayton

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Interesting day, but I wish it never happened. Drama hurts a stock, and QBID is getting wrapped up into this drama. Why the hell did a $150+ million company submit a PR to dispute a single (or small group) of bashers on a stock forum? What kind of confidence does this instill in investors? Not very much for me.

What's going to happen when Q breaks into the market and starts getting serious bashers from the extreme religious right? PRs defending the gay community?

I know many of you dislike this comparison, but one thing that CMKX and QBID have in common is the high drama surrounding their stock. For this reason alone I stayed on the sidelines and watched it drop, but when it looked like the drama disappeared and we were looking at pretty solid company information I bought in. Looks like I jumped the gun as the drama is unfolding even more now.

2 million and waiting.

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quote:
Originally posted by Numa:
Interesting day, but I wish it never happened. Drama hurts a stock, and QBID is getting wrapped up into this drama. Why the hell did a $150+ million company submit a PR to dispute a single (or small group) of bashers on a stock forum? What kind of confidence does this instill in investors? Not very much for me.

What's going to happen when Q breaks into the market and starts getting serious bashers from the extreme religious right? PRs defending the gay community?

I know many of you dislike this comparison, but one thing that CMKX and QBID have in common is the high drama surrounding their stock. For this reason alone I stayed on the sidelines and watched it drop, but when it looked like the drama disappeared and we were looking at pretty solid company information I bought in. Looks like I jumped the gun as the drama is unfolding even more now.

2 million and waiting.

Very good point with the PR's [Big Grin]

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Okay so we will get some Richard Brown Time: He will let us know when [Big Grin]


From: Equity Relations, Inc[staff*equityrelations.com]
To: Wayne ********
Sent: Mon 10/17/2005 3:56PM
Subject: Re:Come Visit With Us

Sure Wayne, Iíll give you an hour as well.


Richard Brown
Equity Relations, Inc.
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Office: 617-314-7379
Email: Staff*equityrelations.com
Web: www.equityrelations.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne ********* [mailto:tm********.com]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:33 PM
To: 'Equity Relations, Inc.'
Subject: Come Visit With Us

Richard, we sure would appreciate a visit from you here on Allstocks

Wayne *********
(916) ***-****

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um...

can anyone name an IR person for any public company that has actually gone online and indulged the stock chat rooms?

and why would one start at the bottom? as if we all even know what RB is? many of us had never been there before Richard invited us...

comparatively there are few "investors" there and many people just peeing in the pool.

i just don't get it. it makes me believe that Richard is full of it-
yeah, just go distract those QBID holders and keep em quiet while we ....
(fill in the blanks, cuz it's the blanks that are worrying me).

~BB

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Oh Babe, your so sus [Confused] picious. But I can't blame you. I hate feeling left out. Too much mystery where my money is concerned bothers me.
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Dig there is a PM knocking at your door.

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quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
Dig there is a PM knocking at your door.

Doc,
Did you tell them that I didn't do it?

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I know I am Dig. I know. And I don't mean to be cynical.

I always thought I could average down from where I started and wait for the next big wave... only lately I'm wondering if there is some funny biz going on, and with money involved, it doesn't feel right.

IR chats on message boards put me over the edge.

I hate to make the comparison, but someone already did today... it feels like the same cmkx (shhh) drama that went down right before I lost my money there. [Frown]

~BB


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Originally posted by DIGDOUGH:
Oh Babe, your so sus [Confused] picious. But I can't blame you. I hate feeling left out. Too much mystery where my money is concerned bothers me.


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quote:
Originally posted by 4Art:
If we go to .0001 I'll buy ten million more shares. If we go to .01, this will be the best investment I've ever made. I haven't lost a dime unless I sell. Life is good. It's a beautiful day. I'm good enough, I'm smart enough and, gosh darn it, people like me!

4Art
Thanks, 4Art. Good post. Nice to read a positive point of view again. I'm getting tired of all the ego-trippers, whiners and professional victims telling us how miserable we're supposed to feel. [Big Grin]

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