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wow i am loving these fat fingers its a preveiw into the future of our lil qtv's share price.i certainly didnt mind seeing all the greenery hehehee.
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quote:Originally posted by Dew-it: That is the third time this morning! What the hec? I hope this a good sign.
quote:Originally posted by Wangdo: 460,000 *.009
that's the fourth 20,000 1,000,000 70,000 460,000
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OK, No fair... Normally I have Allstocks open first, and then open E-trade. Almost told my boss "see ya later" and kissed the receptionist. Although, as you have all already said a nice slow climb is safer. I did like the look of green in the account though.
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15000001 and holding, yes I needed the 1 share. Posts: 141 | From: Alex. Va. | Registered: May 2004
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You're right. I missed the first one. This is not a coincidence. Either someone is doing this intentional or something is up. I hope hope something is up.
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quote:Originally posted by Dew-it: That is the third time this morning! What the hec? I hope this a good sign.
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it seems unlikely that their would be four fatfingers so closely timed to eachother i dont want to sound like a paranoid skitzo but maybe the mm's are f%##ing with us.i dont know.
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I need to clarify something I indicated about the dilution factor. Frank can't dilute any more than 2 billion more at this point without losing control of the company.
It could be possible that he's *already* diluted as much as he intends, and the stock price is still going down because VERT has been slowly selling the shares and isn't finished unloading yet.
It is also possible that VERT selling to itself now is either VERT accumulating or Frank buying back shares.
It's almost a guarantee that previous announced buybacks were fakes/frauds (we found out that dilution had occurred and not buybacks at all) and that Frank lied. But since the latest PR stating the updates to the O/S and such, Frank has been very straightforward with us. I wish he would notify us every time he dilutes, but it could be that he diluted a few billion over 6 months ago and VERT and QBID agreed on a .0005 PPS for 7 billion shares that VERT is only starting to run out of now. To say that Frank is still diluting is probably very incorrect. We have no evidence to indicate that it is him now, it could be he sold to VERT and they are doing it for him.
One thing is for sure, as soon as VERT is no longer on the ask, it's time to buy.
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quote:Originally posted by dragonsmoke: Every day I look at this stock as an explosion waiting to happen. Why does all the best things in life take time.
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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards. Dont invest more then you can afford to lose. Posts: 4801 | From: Prescott, ON, Canada | Registered: May 2004
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quote:Frank can't dilute any more than 2 billion more at this point without losing control of the company.
...well, he could throw an amendment on tmm increasing the a/s. he's done that before.
that's why it's good to keep an eye on washington and what legal machinations have to be done. you can't trust frank. what he says. gotta watch what he actually does--and has to do.
here's qtn corp status: 6/1/04 to 5/31/05 --active 6/1/05 to 8/31/05 --inactive 9/1/05 to 9/07/05 --dissolved 9/08/05 ------------reinstated 9/8/05 to present --active
no big deal, huh?? it's ok to do business without a license. then why bother reinstating it??
quote:Originally posted by g-invest: It's almost a guarantee that previous announced buybacks were fakes/frauds (we found out that dilution had occurred and not buybacks at all) and that Frank lied. [/qb]
last year the O/S was only 7.5 billion, 1 1/2 years later after three or four buybacks since last december frank olsen claimed to be doing, the O/S has grown to 19.5 billion. this is why you cant trust this company. this stock is all speculation, if the ceo lies, and has no credibility, the stock is worthless. QBID needs a new ceo that can be trusted and a reverse split. this ceo has messed this stock up beyond repair and made bagholders out of his shareholders.
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Rather than just look at the fact that there HAS been dilution we need to be looking at WHY there has been dilution. Using stock as barter or selling it is a commonly used method for start-up companies to pay bills. As the prudent investors we all are we know that going in. QBID may not be in the position it is now, a fledgling network with, I think, a bright future, if not for using the stock in this manor.
And, yes, one way to fix the problem is with a R/S, which I don't oppose as long as the A/S reverses by the same amount. Keeps everything in balance. I think to move to better exchanges a R/S is going to be necessary. I think at minimum it will need to be 1:100. I really don't see QBID being able to buy back the billions and billions of shares it needs to. Especially if the pps improves.
I'm hoping that the diluting is done now that there is actual money coming in to pay the bills.
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My guess is that with all the excitement, anticipation and activity someone who bought at .0001-.0005 has figured a way to do a psychological pump just to be able to sell more of their shares. Just a guess. Posts: 1236 | From: The Bluegrass State | Registered: Sep 2005
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quote:Originally posted by g-invest: It's almost a guarantee that previous announced buybacks were fakes/frauds (we found out that dilution had occurred and not buybacks at all) and that Frank lied.
last year the O/S was only 7.5 billion, 1 1/2 years later after three or four buybacks since last december frank olsen claimed to be doing, the O/S has grown to 19.5 billion. this is why you cant trust this company. this stock is all speculation, if the ceo lies, and has no credibility, the stock is worthless. QBID needs a new ceo that can be trusted and a reverse split. this ceo has messed this stock up beyond repair and made bagholders out of his shareholders. [/QB]
You know, he said he was doing a buy-back. He may very well have been. But at the same time he may have been using the re-purchased stock and then some to barter for goods and services.
Deceptive, yeah, I'd say so. But an out and out lie? Maybe not.
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In my opinion, Frankie Boy, ain't done dumping, yet... It may not be to the extent that we were seeing in the past, but you can bet he is - you can still see them every once in a while in 30 and 50M chunks (= 30-50K at current PPS). This cannot be common shareholders selling at a loss (well I guess it could, but not likely). The current overhead HAS too exceed any revenues that the Q is currently generating. We have 80 + (if I recall correctly) employees, celeberties; operating and production costs, equipment tranportation, building(s) lease, travel expenses, marketing/advertising, legal fees, bashes/parties, etc. These things cost money...Not being negative, just factual.
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I've asked this question before and never got an answer so I'll try again. We all know Frank is going to sell this company some day. Question: Is a company worth more to a buyer if there is no reverse split in its history, or does it not matter? Thanks.
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Sorry we missed the question LEO. A very good one at that. I acutally do not know the answer, but logically I can say that I'd much rather have the company I wanted to buy restructure their shares before I purchased the company. I wouldn't want to look like the bad guy.
I don't think this situation will play out that way though. I would assume that, being potentially a very profitable network with minimal competition, there will be more than just a few suiters. If that is the case, Frank should be able to sit back and wait for an agreement that reaches his expectations without the need for a r/s. Once again, I do not know the correct anser, but I think that if you have enough companies interested in an aquisition, Frank will have the upperhand in negotiations, not the potential buyers.
quote:Originally posted by LEO: I've asked this question before and never got an answer so I'll try again. We all know Frank is going to sell this company some day. Question: Is a company worth more to a buyer if there is no reverse split in its history, or does it not matter? Thanks.
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Don't forget to send your letter to Echostar/DISH Network. 20 letters a day gets Q some play :) Posts: 621 | Registered: Jun 2005
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