Posted by: ikity-splits In reply to: A deleted message Date:4/27/2005 1:35:25 PM Post #of 107044
jcradio, do you understand how a holding company works? You should, you're invested in one, QBID. If you source QBID's 15c211 filing with the SEC you'll see that the company trading as QBID is Triangle Multi-Media. QBID has 50BB a/s (unknown 0/s). Q Television Network is a PRIVATE HOLDING, a wholly owned subsidiary, a seperate corporate entity that the public cannot have equity in. Why? First off, Q's 75k shares are wholly owned by the directors of its holding company, QBID (Frank & Rene). Secondly, Q's shares are unissued and have no par value per the WA Secretary of State. OTR transfer confirms that QTN is not their customer and no shares of QTN are transfered by them, only TMM shares and the DTC says QTN has no shares in street. Of course not, the 75k shares remain unissued and privately wholly owned. THEREFORE, QBID shareholders have NO EQUITY IN Q TELEVISION NETWORK. QTN is a private holding and asset of its holding company, TMM (that trades as QBID).
It appears you and others want the public to believe if they buy stock in QBID, TMM, they are buying equity in Q Television Network. That is a LIE. Look at PSTS, Frankie sold it PRIVATELY. Did you get any dividends? NO. Why? Because the directors of TMM were the only sharesholders of PSTS, just like the are with QTN.
Now, you want to evade the question of how much Firestone is being paid by Q in QBID stock for its outsourced services. Why? Is it because you havea hunch QTN will merge with Firestone once all QBID stock is liquidated from the TMM shell to cover Q's expenses charged to QBID by Frankie's old time colleagues?
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Management as well as investor relations have recently compiled a list of individuals posting inaccurate and or false information on certain message boards. Management has worked very closely with the owners of these message boards and they are cooperating fully with the investigation. Management will be sending these individuals certified letters insisting them to stop posting these fallacies or criminal action will be taken. No information posted other than from the company or investor relations should be considered true.
I thought that your post was very interesting yet very deceptive, so I sent it over to Richard at Q to follow up on.
GO QBID!!!!!!!
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By Wayne Karrfalt 4/25/2005In this story: HERE! OUT THE DOOR LOGO'S WIDER NET Q'S APPROACH THE AD FACTOR
The movie Adored: Diary of a Male Porn Star may best sum up the challenges that lie ahead for the three fledgling channels aimed at the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community in the United States.
While the Italian film's raciest quality may be its U.S. title, as an offering on the video-on-demand service Here! TV, it has played into the hands of news reports about the controversial nature of Gay TV channels, and it serves as ready ammunition for special-interest groups like the American Family Association as they marshal their forces to protest the channels.
So far Here! has gotten little flak from such groups, its executives say. But MTV Networks' Logo, slated to launch June 30, is preparing for the worst by training its affiliates to explain Logo to concerned callers. It remains to be seen what storms may be brewing -- as well as how many networks the market can support. But the three channels aimed at the U.S., which also include Q Television, have given themselves very unique qualities in an effort to differentiate themselves with the consumers, operators and satellite platforms they need to woo.
HERE! OUT THE DOOR Here! has taken the lead in seeking carriage in the U.S. largely because it has chosen to forgo the traditional linear model in favor of a "platform agnostic" VOD or subscription VOD service. It is a premium service aiming high with bigger budgeted movies, scripted series and specials. Almost 25% of its lineup is devoted to originals.
Here! at a Glance Launch date: September 2003 Owners: Majority owners Steven Jarchow and Paul Colichman Business model: Premium service available via VOD, SVOD, PPV or as a 24/7 linear channel Programming highlights: TV production of Terrence McNally's The Lisbon Traviata; gay-themed soap Paradise Falls; Hollywood-caliber original films, including comedy Too Cool For Christmas, war film Tides of War and thriller Urgency; original gay detective series Third Man Out; original lesbian supernatural thriller Dante's Cove; talk show The Elizabeth Birch Project; over 1,000 acquired gay and lesbian films. Demographic skew: 25-54 Wants to be known for: High-quality, authentic gay programming Doesn't want to be known for: Gay porn Distribution focus: "Platform agnostic" available as VOD, SVOD, PPV or linear 24/7 offering (DirecTV Inc. carries it this way) Distribution to date: Available to 40 million homes, VOD on Time Warner Cable, Adelphia Communications Corp. and Comcast Corp.; SVOD on Cablevision Systems Corp., RCN Corp., Starpower Communications LLC, Cox Communications Corp.; linear or PPV on DirecTV; PPV on Dish Network Top executive: CEO Paul Colichman Contact:245 Park Avenue 24th Floor New York, NY 10167 (212) 372-8863 www.heretv.com
Its founders -- who have headed the film distribution and production company Regent Entertainment for more than a decade -- hatched the idea in 2002 as an outlet for the films in Regent's library, such as Oscar-winner Gods and Monsters, starring Sir Ian McKellen and Brendan Frasier. They quickly dismissed the idea of trying to woo advertisers into supporting gay films and series because they felt it would take away the creative freedom they needed to authentically serve the gay community.
"They wanted me to create programming I was uninterested in," says Here! CEO Paul Colichman about his discussions with the ad community. "They wanted to get gay dollars into their company coffers, but they didn't want to support us."
The decision to run on VOD and SVOD platforms in lieu of linear carriage was also one of expediency. The last thing operators want is another license fee weighing down their video margins, regardless of how underserved the audience is, says Here! president and chief operating officer Andrew Tow, a former executive at the MSO Century Communications Corp.
"The addition of any one new ad-supported channel is not going to move the needle, in terms of securing a new customer or stopping one from churning," says Tow, adding that operators he spoke with tended to ask: "Why should I devote precious bandwidth to something that would erode margins rather than help them?"
Here! has gained carriage faster than expected; new deals with Cox Communications Inc. and Comcast Corp. announced at the National Show have made the service available to 40 million homes, including a linear option available on DirecTV Inc. Here! officials keep take rates close to the vest, but they will say the service sells better in smaller communities outside big cities, where gay entertainment is less available.
Tow and Colichman attribute Here!'s distribution pacts to the quality of its programming, which has involved an investment of $50 million so far in 2005. Because of its ties to Regent, its executives can debut some titles at the same time they debut on home video, and executives say that's a strong selling point to operators.
"We're able to make the deals more favorable to [the operators] without sacrificing revenue in the aggregate," Tow says.
LOGO'S WIDER NET Logo's mission is quite different and so are the challenges it faces -- as is evidenced by the time Viacom Inc. is taking to get the channel off the ground. Viacom began discussing the network three years ago, and has pushed its original launch date from February to June 30.
Logo at a Glance Planned launch date: June 30, 2005 Owner: MTV Networks Programming highlights: Original reality series Cruise and My Fabulous Gay Wedding, scripted series Noah's Arc, documentaries, acquired movies, programming in conjunction with other Viacom Inc. brands such as CBS News and MTV: Music Television, and The Big Gay 100, a countdown show produced with VH1. Business model: Basic ad-supported cable network with licensing fees Demographic skew: All ages Wants to be known for: Its broad reach Doesn't want to be known for: politics, salaciousness Distribution focus: digital basic Distribution to date: Expects to be in 10 million homes upon launch, deals with Adelphia Communications Corp., RCN Corp. and Time Warner Cable, in negotiation with Comcast Corp. and others Top executives: Brian Graden, president of MTV Networks Entertainment and president of Logo; Lisa Sherman, general manager of Logo Contact: www.LOGOonline.com (212) 767-8732.
Some observers contend that Logo will be a lightening rod for criticism, and it will have to be patient for operators and advertisers to climb on board. But they also note that if anyone can launch a gay digital-basic channel, it's Viacom, given the resources of its network holdings.
Nicole Browning, head of affiliate sales and marketing for MTVN, puts a slightly different spin on the situation: "There's a huge receptivity so far, because there's nothing like it in the marketplace. We're about brand-building. We've built fabulous brands by building amazing emotional connections to the audience, and that's the expertise required to make Logo happen."
From a programming standpoint, Logo is casting a wide net. The first year will feature a slew of documentaries showing "real gay people in real life," such as one about the gay rodeo circuit or another about what it's like to be gay and Latino, according to spokesman David Bittler. The idea is to create loyalty among the LGBT community.
Logo is also betting that it can attract a wider audience than the 7% of the population that identifies itself as gay with some of its original fare. Among them is the gay makeover comedy My Fabulous Gay Wedding, from The Kids in the Hall's Scott Thompson, and the scripted series Noah's Arc is in the vein of Sex and the City. Forward-thinking advertisers may also want to be associated with a network that's inclusive of alternative lifestyles, Logo executives say.
"It's a great opportunity for [an advertiser] to show they are progressive and out for the customer," says Todd Evans, president and CEO of the gay media ad rep firm Rivendell Media. "Imagine how big the gay-friendly market is."
Logo's wide appeal and availability is precisely why some in the gay community think the network is a bad idea, according to its rivals. The fear is that the pressure to conform to general-market mores will force it to become "gay lite," airing only safe, Will & Grace-type shows that -- in the opinion of some -- serve single women better than gays and lesbians.
"Operators are still concerned with launching gay and lesbian programming that's easily accessible by others. In many areas, it's just not going to happen," says Cathy Rasenberger, an industry consultant hired to help with affiliate sales and marketing for Q Television. "It needs to be subscription-based so that it can deal with issues of the community."
"I have nothing against Logo, but it's not fair pushing the gay agenda on mainstream TV. There will be backlash all over the place," contends Frank Olsen, CEO and founder of Q. "When parents come home and see their kids watching two boys kissing, Momma's going to flip."
Whether or not Logo will show boys kissing remains to be seen; Bittler would not say. But Browning does note: "We're working in normal [content] standards of basic cable. We're not pushing boundaries for the sake of it."
Q'S APPROACH As their criticism of Logo implies, executives at Palm Springs, Calif.-based Q Television are banking on a different strategy. They believe that Q's independent gay ownership and subscription-fee, ad-supported positioning will make it an attractive alternative.
Q Television at a Glance Launch date: Oct.1, 2004 Owners: Triangle Multi-Media and privately held investors Business model: Mini-pay service at $7.50 per month, 50% share with operator Programming highlights: Signature shows include nightly On Q Live and Q On the Move, shot on location covering gay and lesbian events; new live morning show Gay Day, gay rodeo, theater, coverage of The Gay Games 2005, acquired gay-themed movies. Demographic skew: All ages Wants to be known for: Gay lifestyle channel built by gay people for gay people Doesn't want to be known for: Exploiting the gay community Distribution focus: linear digital pay on cable and satellite Distribution to date: Available to 400,000 RCN Corp. homes Top executive: Frank Olsen, CEO and founder Contact: 303 North Indian Canyon Way Palm Springs, CA. (760) 323-4455 www.qtelevision.com
The channel plans to feature a hefty dose of live community programming, close to 30 hours a week. Q on the Move and the nightly prime time block On Q Live will include coverage of gay sports -- such as The Gay Games -- as well as theater performances and events like the drag-queen procession of ferry boats held every July 4 off the beaches of New York's Fire Island. The network is also planning a two-hour morning-news show debuting in June. Q also recently agreed to lease 30 minutes per day on the 53 million-home Oxygen channel to run Q on the Move.
Q's distribution progress has been slow going: So far it is only available to RCN Corp. customers, which has a subscriber base of about 400,000. But meetings with operators at the National Show has Olsen confident enough to predict that Q will be in 16 million homes by June. And he's willing to wait until the network can get carriage as a linear pay channel.
"Don't stick me out on VOD; I hate that," says Olsen. "We want to be like any other channel, and it's worth the holdout. Otherwise you're just a token to the gay community."
Q has addressed solvency concerns by shoring up its finances with a private-equity fund. The company expects to break even in 2008. It also completed construction on a 48,000-square-foot production studio in Fort Worth, Texas, last month; hired industry veteran Carol Hinnant away from Here! as vice president of affiliate sales and marketing; and is spending $12 million this year on original programming.
The network is willing to split a suggested $7.50 subscription fee with operators. It has eight minutes of advertising per hour, two minutes earmarked for local avails and 6 minutes to national ads. Despite the low distribution, advertisers such as Orbitz, which is also a charter sponsor of Logo, have approached Q to buy air time.
"It's a new community of advertisers to go after, so we won't be cannibalizing existing ad revenue," says Rasenberger.
THE AD FACTOR It's too soon to tell if advertisers and subscribers will support three separate gay offerings. But the services do have some built in advantages: the channels' focus-group research shows pent-up demand by the gay community and the networks have the ability to market extremely efficiently, thanks to the effectiveness of viral marketing campaigns. (Here! says it has already achieved a 90% recognition rate within the gay community).
"I think there's room for more than one gay network, if they're sufficiently differentiated and done correctly," says Chuck Bachrach, media director of California ad agency Rubin Postaer and Associates.
But it's likely that many advertisers will view the networks with some caution.
Many don't buy time on new networks until they get a good look at the programming, regardless of the format. And most look for a critical mass of subscribers before they make commitments. Logo may have an edge, given the advertising sales clout of MTVN, but its mid-year launch could present a challenge.
"Most advertisers' budgets will be allocated by then, so they might have some lean times before Jan. 1 rolls around. I would look at them during the first quarter of 2006 to see what comes in then," says Howard Buford, president and CEO of gay-focused ad agency Prime Access.
Logo is hoping much of the controversy generated by its launch will have blown over by then.
"TV is not a shrine of sacred holy writ, it reflects our society," says Bob Witeck, CEO of gay marketing firm Witeck-Combs Communications. "Advertisers are about one thing -- they want to connect with culture. [When it comes to advertising], we're talking about capitalistic acts between consenting adults."
Lessons From North of the Border America's gay networks hope not to follow in the footsteps of its Northern neighbor. PrideVision, which claims to be the world's first gay network, has been steadily losing money since launching inauspiciously four days after September 11, 2001, with an erotic approach. Its new owners hope to turn things around, with a second service, Out TV, which debuted April 12.
Out offers lifestyle programming and aims for a wider audience. It's executives are currently in talks with both Q Television and Here! about the possibility of sharing future programming.
The lessons to be learned from PrideVision are well worth heeding. After winning a license from the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission, which gave it must-carry status across the country, PrideVision's first owners (private investors that also operate the sports channel The Score) decided to forgo the right to force distribution. Instead, they launched a premium a la carte service that featured late-night hardcore adult gay programming. Although Canada is much less prudish about such things, the service never caught on with audiences and lost $17 million (Canadian) after two years.
The gay community felt exploited because so little effort was made to program the channel to serve the community's needs, according to current PrideVision and Out TV CEO Bill Craig, particularly after it tried a guilt-based subscription drive claiming: "We are impotent; help PrideVision TV get it up!"
"[The category 1 license] was a gift sitting in their lap, and they dropped it," Craig says of the previous non-gay ownership group.
The new owners, led by gay publisher Pink Triangle Media, hope to gain far more acceptance by restoring the must-carry status of its new offering launched this month. However, two operators Shaw Cable and Bell ExpressVu -- who control close to 70% of Canada's digital subscribers -- refuse to carry Out TV in a package, sending the company to the CRTC to intervene.
Why Gay Networks Are Emerging Gay television networks have been whispered about for years, but for several reasons the timing finally seems right:
The visibility of gay characters on television has been steadily rising, breaking through to the realm of pop culture. Showtime's long-running Queer as Folk and Bravo's Queer Eye for the Straight Guy helped pave the way for gay and lesbian characters, who are now popping up all over the dial. Even Marge's sister Patty (left) came out of the closet to marry in a February 20 episode of Fox's The Simpsons, coming down on the side of marriage equality for gays. The gay and lesbian community is as well-heeled as it is underserved. Gay buying power is projected to reach $610 billion in 2005, according to the latest analysis by gay marketing firm Witeck-Combs Communications, thanks to the predominance of DINKS (dual income no kids households). The advertising community is more focused than ever on reaching the community. Spending in the gay press increased 28.4%, to $207 million in 2004. And over 150 Fortune 500 brands were active in the market, according to the 2004 Gay Press Report, produced by ad agency Prime Access and marketing firm Rivendell Media. The chance to target gays on television -- without being positioned next to an ad for a gay male escort service -- should attract even more advertisers to the segment. Technology such as digital compression and video on demand has made it possible to launch truly niche programming services.
On the Techno Edge Purveyors of adult content, both straight and gay, have long been on the cutting edge of distribution technology, first with VHS in the early 1980s, then streaming video on the Internet in the 1990s. Now entrepreneurs are utilizing the latest server technology to try to help better serve gay audiences.
One of Out TV parent Pink Triangle Media's businesses is Man Line, a gay telephone dating service. Out TV wants to adapt the service as a video-on-demand dating service for digital-cable subscribers throughout Canada. Users will upload video and jpegs to local servers, and the company will charge each time a clip is viewed.
"The gay community is very computer-savvy, so we think this service could be very popular," says PrideVision and Out TV CEO Bill Craig.
Meanwhile, Los Angeles-based Trojan Networks is preparing a premium video service in the U.S. that mixes peer-to-peer sharing with digital video recording. The company is planning the August soft launch of a small VHS tape-sized DVR that needs a broadband connection and a television. Subscribers will be able to order and reserve premium movies, including a variety of gay adult films, which will be compiled peer-to-peer from multiple users' hard drives and stored on the box.
The box must be connected to the Internet at least once a week, but can store 30 to 40 films and be taken on the road and connected to any television. Trojan Networks CEO John Brady sees one of his core customers as upscale gay businessmen who travel a lot and find it inconvenient to access adult titles. The business model calls for a monthly $39 fee, with access to over 200 films a month.
"We believe the adult component will be a strong driver to adoption," says Brady. "The ability to acquire adult programs without dark sunglasses and a dark brown wrapper is worth a lot to some people."
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quote:Originally posted by johnnyb: Do they have computers in jail?
Is that where you think Ghosty is posting from
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No hahaha But he may be if they were to investigate him and find him guilty hehehe
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quote:Originally posted by Doctoall: Ghosty Read This:
3/28/2005 - RE: Message Boards
Management as well as investor relations have recently compiled a list of individuals posting inaccurate and or false information on certain message boards. Management has worked very closely with the owners of these message boards and they are cooperating fully with the investigation. Management will be sending these individuals certified letters insisting them to stop posting these fallacies or criminal action will be taken. No information posted other than from the company or investor relations should be considered true.
I thought that your post was very interesting yet very deceptive, so I sent it over to Richard at Q to follow up on.
GO QBID!!!!!!!
Good, if it's false I hope they prosecute him.
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quote:Originally posted by permanentjaun: PTD - Yes I do. 1966 Checker Marathon A12 but converted to NYC Taxi Style. Do you own a checker? I haven't been on any checker sites in a while since progress on mine has come to a stand still. It's driveable but the next steps will require some QBID support. Matt
No, I do not own one. Awhile ago I went on a hot rod message board in search of some ideas. I was looking through old topics and could have sworn I saw your name. Lol, what a small world.
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OT - Indeed PTD. Next steps on my car include dropping in an L89 Vette 350 with T56 tranny, suspension airbags, and chopping the top. I'd also like to invest in some Lexan windows to reduce weight. All very expensive and time consuming projects that I can't afford right now.
I have manual exhaust cutouts that I'd like to make electric. That might not be too large of a project. Matt
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I noticed you like it in Brazil from your posts. Perhaps when we reap the benefits from the Q we can have a party here to celebrate. Fala Portugês Ricardo?
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quote:Originally posted by Doctoall: Ghosty Read This:
3/28/2005 - RE: Message Boards
Management as well as investor relations have recently compiled a list of individuals posting inaccurate and or false information on certain message boards. Management has worked very closely with the owners of these message boards and they are cooperating fully with the investigation. Management will be sending these individuals certified letters insisting them to stop posting these fallacies or criminal action will be taken. No information posted other than from the company or investor relations should be considered true.
I thought that your post was very interesting yet very deceptive, so I sent it over to Richard at Q to follow up on.
GO QBID!!!!!!!
Good, if it's false I hope they prosecute him.
And you for reposting,without verifying the facts of the post. I did send a copy of your post to Richard at IR, I hope you don't mind
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quote:Originally posted by Doctoall: Ghosty Read This:
3/28/2005 - RE: Message Boards
Management as well as investor relations have recently compiled a list of individuals posting inaccurate and or false information on certain message boards. Management has worked very closely with the owners of these message boards and they are cooperating fully with the investigation. Management will be sending these individuals certified letters insisting them to stop posting these fallacies or criminal action will be taken. No information posted other than from the company or investor relations should be considered true.
I thought that your post was very interesting yet very deceptive, so I sent it over to Richard at Q to follow up on.
GO QBID!!!!!!!
Good, if it's false I hope they prosecute him.
And you for reposting,without verifying the facts of the post. I did send a copy of your post to Richard at IR, I hope you don't mind
Have fun.
By the way, what ever happened to this?
PALM SPRINGS, Calif., Sep 22, 1999 12:33 PM (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Triangle MultiMedia Limited (OTCBB:QBID) announced today that it is beginning legal action against several individuals who are suspected of making false statements on Raging Bull Message Boards about the company and its management.Posts: 610 | Registered: Dec 2004
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The buying spree at dirt cheap prices is about to come to an end. I believe Doc said ealier today, pickem up this week at bagain prices. I think I said a couple of weeks ago we would touch on .002 and we have. I got filled today and hope many others did as well.We may even touch into the hi 1's before movement starts upward.
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The buying spree at dirt cheap prices is about to come to an end. I believe Doc said ealier today, pickem up this week at bagain prices. I think I said a couple of weeks ago we would touch on .002 and we have. I got filled today and hope many others did as well.We may even touch into the hi 1's before movement starts upward.
I expected lower with this latest BS PR. Will be picking up more at .0015-.0018
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quote:Originally posted by Doctoall: IMO anyone looking to pick up more shares should get it done this week
GO BID!!!!! Bringing On The Green
any particular reason Doc?
Lets just say a "gut" feeling and leave it at that
GO QBID!!!!!!
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Ghosty, on second thought lets forget about the soap on a rope, you may enjoy life more Better be careful what you pick up you could get more than you expected.
GO QBID!!!!! Bring On The Green
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johnnyb Just enough Portuguese to get by ordering food and cigarettes. My Best Amigo lives in Camboriu about 60 miles north of Florianopolis. He speaks Spanish, Portuguese, Italian and English so we did not have any problems while we were visiting. My wife is having a fit to go back and I have been sitting on go waiting for the Q to pop so we can go 1st Class. As soon as the Q pops we will probably start spending about 3 months a year there. Ricardo
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Finally got through to Richard Brown. Everyone is traveling today, but he hopes to speak with management tonight. He also has a call in to Rene Schenk.
He said the ONLY info he has, is what shareholders have been sending to him. He really could not commit to any answer, because he knew nothing. However, grabbing at straws, he said that it MAY be something about a third party broker not transferring money correctly.
He welcomed me to call him tomorrow.
That's all I got.
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quote:Originally posted by WinsumLosesum: Finally got through to Richard Brown. Everyone is traveling today, but he hopes to speak with management tonight. He also has a call in to Rene Schenk.
He said the ONLY info he has, is what shareholders have been sending to him. He really could not commit to any answer, because he knew nothing. However, grabbing at straws, he said that it MAY be something about a third party broker not transferring money correctly.
and this is referring to what??
He welcomed me to call him tomorrow.
That's all I got.
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quote:Originally posted by WinsumLosesum: Finally got through to Richard Brown. Everyone is traveling today, but he hopes to speak with management tonight. He also has a call in to Rene Schenk.
He said the ONLY info he has, is what shareholders have been sending to him. He really could not commit to any answer, because he knew nothing. However, grabbing at straws, he said that it MAY be something about a third party broker not transferring money correctly.
and this is referring to what??
He welcomed me to call him tomorrow.
That's all I got.
Andrew: I sent Richard information that was posted on this board today regarding the Oxygen rumor. In addition I once again sent him information regarding the crap about the shareholders not owning the "Q".
I also have e-mails out to Oxygen regarding the reporting of a lawsuit between Oxygen and Triangle.
I have had my lawyer here in Cali look for a filing of any lawsuits and he has come up with a blank on this one.
I did receive an e-mail from Richard and he will get back to us asap. I feel that the bashers are getting what they want a lower PPS at any cost.
Remember: Don't sell you will be very sorry soon if you do.
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"he said that it MAY be something about a third party broker not transferring money correctly." so this just about oxygen??
I am not selling! chit lol i am down to much to sell.!!!!! Once we get off the pinks everything will be up up and away!
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If you are going to repost that garbage you should at least pass on the information that many of the people there dont believe him/her and that numerous sources identified the person as a Raging Bull poster that was banned due to posting fraudulent information.
This was not denied and more or less was admitted. In fact looking at the postings list today even they are now deleting some of ikitys posts.
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Good stuff there and makes me feel even better about what is going on behind closed doors.
Rasenburger quoted as well as the comment about Carol is all great stuff.
"hired industry veteran Carol Hinnant away from Here! as vice president of affiliate sales and marketing"
That settles the arguement of her leaving Here as a firing or other negative issue on her part.
Being that this article is quoting folks in all 3 companies I am positive they asked for a copy for review before it was released. Thats pretty standard and if that statement wasnt true it would have been rebuttled or removed.
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Hollywood Consultant Brings Major Celebrities to Q Television
PALM SPRINGS, Calif., Apr 27, 2005 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Q Television Network, (Pink Sheets: QBID) announced today that Rodney A. Omanoff has joined Q Television Network as a consultant, bringing with him some major Hollywood celebrities to the Q Network family. Posts: 304 | From: Michigan | Registered: Apr 2004
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jackpot Admittedly, this is not a blockbuster PR . . . but it is positive and could generate some substantial results in the future. I see this as expecting a $100 bill and getting only a $10. Still better than nothing.
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quote:Originally posted by jackpot: More fluff: What a joke!
Hollywood Consultant Brings Major Celebrities to Q Television
PALM SPRINGS, Calif., Apr 27, 2005 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Q Television Network, (Pink Sheets: QBID) announced today that Rodney A. Omanoff has joined Q Television Network as a consultant, bringing with him some major Hollywood celebrities to the Q Network family.
Well jackpot... True, it wasn't the PR we are waiting for. But in all honesty, you are the joke. Looks like you didn't get your shares yet either.
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