quote:Originally posted by RNINALVNG: Road...Doc posted to you a week or two ago about your negative posts...you responded...thought you were going to change your attitude...up front...I've never heard a woman on her heavy days b#tch as much as you...you just keep repeating sh#t over...and over...and over...and over...again.
Yes, have we heard THE pr we want to hear yet?...no...but for god's sake...give it a rest...hate to tell you...Frank is not going to run this company based on your pms...do you think your b#tching makes more people want to invest in this company...seriously doubt it...
Road...at most you're in your early 20's...try to at least act like it...you keep sounding like a 5 year old who's had 1 of her 20 toys taken away.
Terry
whew discussing the negitive side of qbid. the truth hurts doesnt it? but like i said ill hold for a couple more months if i have to.
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what i say isint going to affect the pps anyway. so, im not concerned about posting my honest opinions on this website. only thing thats going to move this thing is big news. so, till then i got questions.
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Hmm yeah, those are good points. I still think carrier news is everything though, because none of that matters if no one is there to watch it. The only way those things do matter in my opinion is if they somehow help QTV *get* carriers.
So, QTV may be...
- buying back shares before announcing carriers big time, maybe that explains why they got that advisor person to help QTV get on a real stock exchange one day?
- still trying to get carriers, maybe that explains all the fluff PRs?
The fact that they DO have live programming, they've got the gay games, etc., that should help them get carriers, no? And if carriers want to see demand for QTV, why dont investors help to create this demand by spreading the word? They had that newspaper ad in USA today not too long ago, why not tell gay friends to spread the word?
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Road...you're determined not to listen...we, like you, see all the sides and edges of the coin...we choose not to put it on the track for the train to flatten...you seem to want to invite failure...even crying out loud for it...you want a reason to justify your negativity...bet if it runs soon you'll laugh off your own posts and say you knew this would do great!!!!...you won't get off that easy...myself...and I'm sure several others will remind you of your chicken sh#t posts and all of your bitchin'...now use your gentle glide applicator and have a great evening.
quote:Originally posted by Penny-Trader: now who was it that questioned if Qon the move interviewed anyone at the Oscars?
Common and be an adult and step forward. i can go back a page or so and bring it forward, but you now know you where wrong.
now lets see an "I was wrong" post from you
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to be honest i questioned if the footage will ever air because the pr about the superbowl never aired and the pr about the liz taylor tribute never aired either. but i do like seeing the picture to prove qtv was there. but, we will see if or when qtv airs this event.
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RNINALVNG, i would like nothing more than for qbid to make a monster run. if it happens it happens, if it doesnt it doesnt. but, im not going to ignore the bad for the good. why hide from the truth? why do people think not always posting the positive side of qbid will hurt the pps? i mean allstocks is just some little website on the net, most investors dont even know about.
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wasn't it you that was talking about maturity on the board a few pages back?
What is the purpose of this thread on this forum if not to talk about the pros and cons of investing in QBID? Is it just for speculation on how high it will go, or is speculation on the downside OK to? Is it just to talk about the progress of QTV and NOT potential problems? Maybe their should be seperate threads for potential investors looking to POTENTIALLY buy and hold and another for people looking for the share price to run based on good word of mouth via internet message boards?
I wouldn't condone being an ass like that UT4 whatever the hell his name is guy. But anyone that says anything remotely negative is hung on the crucifix here...
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Road...while, yes...you have to question validity...potential...etc. ...we don't or ever will control this company...we're along for the ride...
as far as the exposure of Allstocks board...you posted something from I-Hub tonight...which may be posted on RB tommorrow...which may be...catch my drift...it's multi-layered.
But for your own sake...relax and enjoy the ride...if you can't...pennies aren't for you...they have no pressure on them to demand any of the control you desire or deem appropriate...if you demand accountability...go NYSE or Amex...that's why Baskin-Robbins has 31 flavors.
wasn't it you that was talking about maturity on the board a few pages back?
What is the purpose of this thread on this forum if not to talk about the pros and cons of investing in QBID? Is it just for speculation on how high it will go, or is speculation on the downside OK to? Is it just to talk about the progress of QTV and NOT potential problems? Maybe their should be seperate threads for potential investors looking to POTENTIALLY buy and hold and another for people looking for the share price to run based on good word of mouth via internet message boards?
I wouldn't condone being an ass like that UT4 whatever the hell his name is guy. But anyone that says anything remotely negative is hung on the crucifix here...
well said, some dont like questions being asked about companies they have invested in, it makes some people have fear or be reluctant about thier investment and makes them angry. myself i would prefer to hear all both sides of the story, not just the good part. so, you always know whats going on. but thats me, some people seem to live in a fantasy world, where everything is perfect.
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wasn't it you that was talking about maturity on the board a few pages back?
What is the purpose of this thread on this forum if not to talk about the pros and cons of investing in QBID? Is it just for speculation on how high it will go, or is speculation on the downside OK to? Is it just to talk about the progress of QTV and NOT potential problems? Maybe their should be seperate threads for potential investors looking to POTENTIALLY buy and hold and another for people looking for the share price to run based on good word of mouth via internet message boards?
I wouldn't condone being an ass like that UT4 whatever the hell his name is guy. But anyone that says anything remotely negative is hung on the crucifix here...
I agree, Kevin. For those who are familiar with my contributions to this thread, they will agree that I am not a basher. However, the cons DO need to be taken into consideration as well. That goes for all stocks - not just QBID. I am open for all kinds of discussion as long as it does not involve senseless bashing. U4 could not back up his posts with any DD and that is why he was condemned. As long as everyone has something worthy of contributing - good or bad, just make sure you have DD to back it up. Let's make this fun. :)
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quote:Originally posted by RNINALVNG: Road...while, yes...you have to question validity...potential...etc. ...we don't or ever will control this company...we're along for the ride...
as far as the exposure of Allstocks board...you posted something from I-Hub tonight...which may be posted on RB tommorrow...which may be...catch my drift...it's multi-layered.
But for your own sake...relax and enjoy the ride...if you can't...pennies aren't for you...they have no pressure on them to demand any of the control you desire or deem appropriate...if you demand accountability...go NYSE or Amex...that's why Baskin-Robbins has 31 flavors.
Terry
P.S. Just being realistic.
very ironic i thought i was being realistic also. i did not mean to offend you but, i am entitled to my opinion. i respect everyone elses opinion on this board but, dont really get the same respect back. i know its easier to agree with everyone than to question things. but just going with the flow, accepting things, and taking what is handed to you isint going to always get it done. this company needs to start following up on thier claims and statements, plain and simple.
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"this company needs to start following up on thier claims and statements, plain and simple. "
Yeah, agreed, that would help alieviate some fears for investors. I find that they basically always DO what they say they are going to do... its just they dont seem to do it on time very often.
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Okay Road...I'll keep this very simple...I agree with you on several points...you LOSE validity when you state the same points over and over and over again...there's a difference in being realistic and redundancy...you lose credibility...you're bringing that on yourself. With that, have a good evening...
Like I said yesterday, if we can break the upper bolli band, then it should start the run....and YES, we are going to start a run VERY SOON!!!! I am actually hoping the Frank holds off the Big news until we are into the run, then he lets the bomb drop...causing us to go way over the 2.8 high from last year. With the right news at the right time, we should go way over that old high.
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Like I said yesterday, if we can break the upper bolli band, then it should start the run....and YES, we are going to start a run VERY SOON!!!! I am actually hoping the Frank holds off the Big news until we are into the run, then he lets the bomb drop...causing us to go way over the 2.8 high from last year. With the right news at the right time, we should go way over that old high.
Thanks, Father of Two. I agree. Regardless of the missed deadlines I think we'll see a nice run in the very near future.
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quote:Originally posted by RNINALVNG: Okay Road...I'll keep this very simple...I agree with you on several points...you LOSE validity when you state the same points over and over and over again...there's a difference in being realistic and redundancy...you lose credibility...you're bringing that on yourself. With that, have a good evening...
Terry
and some how you think your credibility is gained or maintained by attacking someone just based on a diffrence in opinion. well anyway nothing good can come from this discussion so, lets just forget about it, wait and see what qbid does in the coming weeks.
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I'll say this. I wasn't attacking anyone or trying to prove that anyone is bashing. I was trying to get people to realize the big picture. Roadrunner you stated that you think Q is in trouble and hasn't done much this year. I simply stated that you, among others, missed a lot of the building blocks that Q is putting together. I've said it before, these aren't fluff pr's but they will be as long as they're not the carrier pr. Everyone wants the carrier pr. Anything else just won't do it in the eyes of everyone else.
I think everyone needs to get beyond that and perhaps Q will start to move on these "fluff" prs. Q has made some great moves recently that have come and gone in a day on the discussion boards.
I'll repeat again. Here! hasn't promised half of what Q has or has any live programming. Here! wasn't at the oscars and I didn't hear anything about the super bowl from Here!. LOGO was delayed how many months? Q isn't doing much worse than anyone else. Are they doing better? I sure think so with the programming they're putting together.
We all know carriers need to come. We've talked about it before. That's why people get upset when people mention Q is doing terrible because they didn't get the carrier pr. We've been through it, we know, and some people are tired of it. Look at the bigger picture. Matt
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lol, Kevin. There is a children's book about a little boy who will not remove his snowsuit--can't remember the name--just the n-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o.
We all want that info now, but I also want everything to be just right and ready.
I want this one to fly with no looking back--deferred gratification.
I've thought about throwing in some money and just seeing how it goes. I figure its got a 1/3 chance of hitting it big with the DD we have now, and the reward is huge. So risk/reward is VERY good on QBID...
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saw elton john on jay leno. he talked about the oscars but, i didnt see the whole thing. now thats who qtv should of interveiwed at the oscars. if elton john were to mention qtv on jay leno, now that would be huge.
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At press time, LOGO had rescheduled its launch date, and repeated requests for an interview with Bravo about its gay-themed programming went unanswered. But there are four gay networks currently on the air that were happy to share their thoughts on style and substance.
Q Television "In definition of the style, I envision us doing gay programming for gay people, the GLBT community. What you see on television right now is pretty much the straight view of what the gay lifestyle is," says Tom Zamora, vice president of marketing and advertising for Q Television (www.qtelevision.com), a cable/satellite network launched quietly in mid-2004. By year's end, Q was being shown in New York, Boston and San Francisco on RCN. At press time, a contract was signed to bring Q to the Pacific Northwest extending to the Canadian border.
At present, approximately 25 percent of Q's 24-hour-a-day programming is original. This includes the show Q on the Move. "We go to major cities around the country and around the world and show the gay scene in that city," says Zamora. "We talk to people in arts and education. We have another show called Internet Cafe with Q. It's live and broadcasts about two hours a day. We have live Internet feeds so people can e-mail and phone in questions. We plan to introduce Webcams, so they can actually be seen when they call in."
A huge push for Q will come in 2006 when they broadcast Gay Games VII from Chicago. The network will unscramble its signal during the Games to open viewership to all interested parties. To build momentum, the network will broadcast various sporting events-such as a gay aquatics championship and several softball games-over the next 18 months.
Q is subscription channel, currently priced at $7.95 a month.
Other programming will include documentaries produced by Firestone Communications.
"We've found that since we started, the interest in Hollywood has been just incredible," Zamora says. "There is a lot of pent-up energy that there hasn't been a real outlet for. The network is really gearing itself to be-it's kind of cliche-but a gay family network," he adds. "I don't want potential viewers or anyone else to think that we're going to be a smut station. We will follow the FCC guidelines that are covered by HBO and Showtime."
Frank Olsen, Q's president, says the network is here for "the gay, the lesbian, the bisexual, the transgendered and the curious."
here! "Part of the genesis of here! is there was so much good content that really had a very limited amount of exposure once it ran at a film festival. Being the only gay and lesbian network that's actually on the air nationwide, as you can imagine, people from all over the country are sending us things. We receive submissions from folks who are new and young to established Hollywood people who are looking for a place to showcase edgy content and have a lot of creative freedom," says Stephen Macias, vice president of publicity for here! TV (www.heretv.com).
here!, which is currently on air 12 hours a day, seven days a week, has been slowly rolling out over the past year in different markets across the U.S. on different carriers and satellite services. In early December, the network's base expanded when it became available in 13,500,000 homes through a package offered by Direct TV.
"We have the world's largest gay and lesbian library of films and short films," says Macias. "We are also producing one original film for the channel each month, as well as developing original, scripted programming. In this year where gay and lesbian issues have been such a decisive issue on some level, the response has been really exciting," he adds. "After the election, our subscription numbers started going up. I think people are looking for a place that's familiar, a place that's exciting and entertaining, a place that speaks to them."
Macias says feedback from the gay community has been virtually all enthusiastic. Of course, people are looking for programming just as diverse as they are. The holidays featured the TV movie "Too Cool for Christmas" and the New Year brought the show "Here Family," a news magazine show.
"People do different things to contribute to a better community," he says. "Our job is to engage and entertain and be provocative in our programming, so that 1)it appeals to a gay and lesbian audience. And 2)hopefully also appeals to those people who are friends of our community, who can see something that makes them think. Providing visibility is our biggest contribution."
PrideVision TV Outside the Box
The world's longest running GLBT television network is PrideVision TV in Canada (www.pridevisiontv.com), which went on the air on Sept. 7, 2001. The digital premium service, which is on 24 hours a day, seven days a week, currently has about 50,000 subscribers who pay between $5.95 to $7.95 (Canadian) per month. In February the possibility for viewership expanded significantly when the channel began being offered in a bundle with other lifestyle networks. Although that doesn't necessary translate to viewers, past experience have demonstrated that it likely will.
"Between September and December 2001 there was an open free preview of all the digital stations that launched at that time," says Jason Hughes, director of sales and marketing for PrideVision TV. "We were a top 10 station in terms of number of minutes that people watched. We were number two in loyalties, so people kept coming back to us. Out of 51 channels, they came back to the gay station. There are a lot of people out there who are watching gay television and gay programming-not just the gay community."
When PrideVision TV hit the airwaves, there were just eight shows that were original or co-productions made in Canada. That number has gone up, as have collaborations with production companies in Australia, New Zealand, Great Britain and the U.S. There are films, talk shows, arts, biographies, music, news and current affairs and even variety shows.
"Being in Canada, that's given us an edge. We're a lot more socially progressive than the U.S. right now," Hughes says. "We also had support from our governing body, the Canadian Radio and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC). The CRTC basically mandated that PrideVision TV be a category one license, which means that every cable operator and every satellite distributor had to offer us to their customers."
Hughes is particularly proud of the fact that people in remote provinces and territories can turn on PrideVision TV and have a sense of identity.
"Hopefully we're helping some young gay person who's living in somewhere like rural Alberta feel comfortable himself," he says. "Maybe he'll feel he can come out of the closet and be proud to be gay."
pink tv
Since its debut on Oct. 25, Pink TV in France has endeavored to show the best of vintage camp television-think "Wonder Woman"-combined with original talk shows and collaborative productions with other gay networks, such as PrideVision TV, as well as with other international producers. Unlike most imported programming, Pink TV (www.pinktv.fr) does not dub the dialogue into French.
"The homosexual community prefers original versions with subtitles more than French versions," notes program director Caroline Comte. "Gay people were waiting for gay TV, but gay people-they are very, very hard to satisfy. Sometimes they are enthusiastic, sometimes not."
To date, approximately 40,000 households have subscribed to 24-hour-a-day Pink TV at the price of 9 Euros (approximately $11 U.S.) per month. The goal is for that number to reach 190,000 by the end of 2007.
Pink TV's debut was marked with a lavish launch party thrown by the network's founder, Pascal Houzelot. There are also billboards posted around major cities like Paris and Lyon. But production budgets are modest, which keeps original programming to a minimum.
"No dramas," says Comte. "They're very, very expensive. We can't do that alone for the moment. We can co-produce some documentaries. We have done that. We work with some theaters, so we can film the theater. We buy a lot of programs."
They recently filmed a production of "Angels in America," which they hope to share with PrideVision TV. They regularly broadcast operas.
Daily fare includes talk shows, including one half-hour show that's a one-on-one interview format. After documentaries air, forums to discuss them are broadcast. Late night four days a week there is X-rated programming, which is not uncommon in Europe. For the most part, the network has raised few eyebrows in the big cities, but in parts of France where gay people live more closeted lifestyles there has been some criticism.
"We have some problems in the country," Comte says. "But Jacques Chirac (president of France) is not homophobic."
Pink TV is pleased to be part of a larger movement.
"Companies will do gay programs that they never did before," says Comte. "It's a great moment for that." __________________________________________________________ To learn more about LOGO's plans, log onto www.scenemag.net.
I remember watching those adds on "Death Vally" Days?, presented by Ronnie Reagan, when I was about 6 years old. Classic stuff.
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quote:Originally posted by Penny-Trader: and the bashers are coming out again.
all good signs
formed a white hammer today
its just a matter of time
Eod
Are you saying you will bash the bashers with a white hammer...???? Cool...
Kind of like the old Arm and Hammer commercials...20 Mule Team Borax...Really dating myself here...Those were old black and white commercials where the guy would swing a white hammer then be super imposed on the front of the box...I bet no one here is old enough to remember that?
Hey...thanks firefly...the kids are learning slowly...
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PT, You may want to read Jackpot's post again.
Jackpot posed a question. He also used the terms, snatching them up, and playing this.
We know there is some investment firms in this.
I too, think there is a lot of money on the sidelines. I agree with Jackpot's theory.
Based on what QBID claims to be doing. I would expect more volatility. Look at WFTV for example. Very few PRs, but when they say that they are going to get off the pinks, some folks took them seriously. Note, PPS rose .008 to .09 in one day! Check out the volume. Now that's big $$$. Some snatching up of shares. It has been played!
PT' I remember you making many comments last summer that had no substance at all. Nothing to back them up and I never saw any, I was wrong post.
I hope we all make money.
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quote:Originally posted by Penny-Trader: so jackpot you now know who is invested in this stock can you prove to me there are no big investment companies invested?
if you make comments you better be prepaired to back them up
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