PS: By the way, my point about the release was that I think he should have DEMANDED they release the 300 billion in authorized shares rather than their saying nothing and having it come out by chance which gave others an opportunity to make trading decisions which you or I may not have been privy to.

One more thing. Why didn't you ask them to provide you with a list of what he has accomplished since being retained by CMKX in the sense of getting them into a "fully reporting" mode? What else has he accomplished for shareholders of CMKX? Why is he representing both UCAD and CMKX (if that is truly the case)?

How about sending them this post as well? Will you be kind enough to do so?

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That should be a very interesting response!!
Thanks for sending it!!!!

More. If Glenn is representing both UCAD and CMKX, is he involved in their transactions with one another? If so, isn't that a conflict of interests? Wouldn't that represent a non-arm's length transaction if he is involved in such dealings and/or negotiations?

If Glenn is representing both companies, there's an old and true saying that "NO MAN CAN SERVE TWO MASTERS" that applies to conflicts of interests.

Request you send E&A this as well as the above. Thanks.

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Hey Pharm, welcome back. Glad to see you've been able to duck three punches in a row. Fla. has had more than it's share this year.

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Originally posted by noahltl:

Hey Pharm, welcome back. Glad to see you've been able to duck three punches in a row. Fla. has had more than it's share this year.

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Ever wonder why some posters/members seem to be more calm in their approach to the cmkx drama? Well..there is probably more than one reason..but I believe there is one major factor that the most well respected (long) posters share (you all know who I am talking about..Dr.D., Zen etc.)..

IMO even though they may have their own theories or investment strategies there's one thing each of these posters probably have in common-- the ability to "turn down the noise"..

This cmkx drama has been unfolding for some time now..and for many of us it started about the same time Roger Glenn came into the picture..(obviously for others..this cmkx story has been going on much longer)..

but I think its safe to say that a lot of investors here would NOT be here if it wasn't for the credibility that Roger Glenn brings to the equation..

Now since this story has begun to create some momentum..many theories have come and gone..some pieces of the puzzle have been revealed but then more questions have come up as well..countless race rumors have been spread and investors have been exposed to "magical" dates that have turned out to not mean a thing..it has been one he!! of an emotional rollercoaster..but for those who don't know how to get off the ride, I can only imagine how raw their emotions must be..

getting wrapped in the emotions of an investment can be a trap..pumping or bashing can create an unrealistic expectation as it is..but when you're dealing with a stock like cmkx-- perhaps the most potentially, emotionally charged roller coster ride in recent history..it is not surprising that emotions begin to play a roll..

IMO no-one is completely immune to these emotions..unless you're a robot..

personally, I find myself "feeling" differently right after a PR compared to those "waiting periods" in between PRs..it can even seem at times that our investment is being held together by the anticipation of the next PR..but when I step back and take inventory..I know this is not the truth..

Question: If you "turn down all the noise" what do you hear? lol..I'll share at least what my perception is when things get real quiet..

I'll put it this way..to get rid of ALL the noise..I ask myself some what IF questions..

What IF there is no NS problem..

What IF the O.S. is anywhere between 200 and 800 billion?

What IF we don't have diamonds and/or minerals RIGHT NOW..

These what IF questions then take care of a lot of the theories out there concerning share structure..short covering..core sample results (from Carolyn etc)..dividend deadlines and dividend payment ratios and whether or not they are restricted etc..

And even with these What IF questions eliminating all or most of the noise..I am STILL happy with my investment..

Why?

Because there are some things that are indisputable facts..facts that DON'T CHANGE every time a new rumor from the races doesn't come true or an anticipated "magical" date approaches and then dissapoints..

IMO these What IF's still allow me to compute an "approaching worse case scenario"-- a scenario which is STILL attractive as an investment..

based on the FACT that we have a TDEM ariel survey with hundreds of anomolies..

based on the FACT that we have financing from several sources (private financing and partnerships) to drill these targets

based on the FACT that we have a well respected lawyer overseeing this process..

based on the FACT that we have 1.4+ million acres of claims in an area where Debeers is serious about diamond mining and where other companies are finding diamonds as we speak..

based on the FACT that well respected geologists have agreed on the potential of the Sask area for yielding economically feasible diamond mines..

based on the FACT that Debeers has a valuation on one claim that is between 40-80 billion dollars..

based on these FACTS..it is easy for me to eliminate most of the noise and imagine that just ONE cmkx claim could be conservatively valued at the low end of this range..

now take a 40 billion dollar valuation with an O.S. of between 200 and 800 billion shares (even with no NS problem)..and (even without considering any dividend questions..lol) and do the math..

(Added by noahltl: 40 bil valuation divided by 800 bil o.s., worst case scenario
40 bil / 800 bil = .05 pps. $50,000.00 per million shares.)

this is perhaps one way to explain why some of us are smiling even when there seems to be so much confusion all around us..

but I have to admit I have to remind myself every now and then..because it is easy to get caught up in all of the emotion..

now this is not to say that I believe we will only have just one mineable target..or that we have an 800 billion O.S..or that there is not a N.S. problem..or that the dividends aren't important..

but what I am saying..is look at what we do know..and START with that..

this way when you try and speculate or theorize or when you entertain yourself with rumor..you can still at least attempt a smile even when everything else seems to dissapoint..

There are no slam dunks in the stock market..and I am not pretending that this is one either..I just feel that by observing the facts..cmkx IMO presents a great opportunity..please do your own DD. diamondogg

I'd like to point out one problem in your pps evaluation that you and everyone else, even the "well respected (long) posters" seem to overlook. CMKX has sold off something like 30% interest in it's claims for one reason or another. So when the property evaulation is done it should be reduced by this amount since that portion of the claim does not belong to CMKX. I realize that they get some off that back since there seems to be a web of ownership, but to to keep the numbers simple, and more conservative this should be tanken into account. So I'd suggest that your pps should be closer to .04 rather than .05. It's still very significant. Not trying to pick on you, as I said many posters seem to overlook this.

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I think so much emphasis has been placed on how magnanimous and caring Urban is that we have lost sight of the fact that he is a businessman. We have created the persona of a great and powerful benefactor that cares lovingly for his shareholders like the Wizzard of Oz. Not very likely.

Now, that aside, I, too, am confused about why we are supposed to be so excited about the unfolding picture. What happened to all the promises (unsubstantiated and mostly of our own creation) of eventually having a pps .. even a little pps. This is the only stock I have ever seen that can issue two PR's and leave people more in the dark than ever.

Do you personally still feel there is something here to have hope for in our lifetime (preferably the next six months). Granted the amount of stock I have is a pittance compared to some (5.5M) but I have allowed it to represent the light at the end of the tunnel. If there really is no light I need to start figuring out a way to deal with the darkness. We all trust you and realize that even with your vast knowledge you cant possibly know what UC and CMKX are planning for the future. Your best guess would be so very much appreciated. Just one more time.

Leslie

Hi Leslie,

Hold on to your light with CMKX. CMKX is not going anywhere without you being carried along. Urban has PRed over the last few years what his intention is and it is right on TRACK. NOT right on SCHEDULE. But on track. I think many have confused the two and believed that everything was a slam dunk and what we are finding out is that there are several variables in position that is effecting our schedule. The plan is proceeding with specifically what Urban said he would do in acquiring companies to benefit CMKX. He would utilize the A/S and the O/S to acquire these companies. There would be a cross dividend policy in effect that would begin placing value in our portfolios through these transactions.

Urban was putting together a so called "Dream Team" that would see to the accomplishing of CMKX's goals and I believe that Roger Glenn was the last needed team member to come on board. Everything is pretty much in place and the squeeze is being put on the shareholders at this point when many thought that the squeeze would be put upon the MM's.

As I released about 3 weeks that the MM's could try to disguise their position all through the dividend issues and thus discourage investors that would in frustration and disgust sell their position in CMKX.

We are looking at that very scenario as I mentioned before in length and I will echo again that they can short and fake their way right through the dividends if they have an incredibly large naked short share position on CMKX. And I believe they do and are!

Many that thought they would be long are upset and thinking short. Many that were short are already planning to get out or have already taken an out. Those that had no idea if they were long or short are more than likely gone or trying to sell now just to recover their investment and write the whole thing off.

Nothing has changed for CMKX except we have more money flowing in, we have more value based on shares we have received through these partnerships and joint venture agreements, we are closer to being reporting than ever before, we drilled a new target that was confirmed by our 1st class aerial survey to be PRIMO Excellente. What I meant was it is most excellent.

What has happened then? Our PPS hasn't moved up. Stop looking at the pps and wait for the plan to continue to unfold. There are long and short term growths emerging from CMKX before our eyes, but most are blinded by the lack of respect we are getting in the PPS.

Simply put many investors watching the PPS will pierce themselves through with many sorrows for no reason and may even give up their position on CMKX because of no PPS recognition. The PPS is being heavily manipulated and has been for nearly 2 years according to PR's from CMKX.

Since you know the score of the game is being manipulated by the score keeper and they are not recording your teams advances and scores, that doesn't make you or your team a loser because it isn't showing up on the scoreboard. The record books keep tally of the teams true scores and eventually the score (PPS) board will be adjusted to indicate the true score and until that time watch the game and not the score.

In my opinion, we will win and are way ahead and it seems most on our team (shareholders) doesn't even know it. Look at the facts that many excellent team members of ours have posted and you will see that with one diamondiferous kimberlite pipe (like we are drilling now) reporting the diamond content that was PRed in Nov 27, 2002 (1.76 to 4.90 per ton) will send our PPS soaring to over $1 IMHO. Whether it does or not we will still find ourselves in position for some hefty cash dividends and share dividends as these other discoveries come in.

We are in great shape and I believe that Victory and Success are already in hand and that hand is getting ready to be exposed for all to see.

Just my opinion and I ask that you treat it as such.

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Originally posted by Upside:
Just did a little dd on the Green Barons picks of the last two years. I hope CMKX doesn't follow their pattern! If you would have invested $1,000 in every stock they picked in 2003 and 2004, you would have invested $16,000 total and based on todays last price of each, your investment would be worth $8,841.50.

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For the last few months I have smelt this terrible smell whenever I log on and read your posts. Whatever could it be?

Yours,

I. Diot

Dear Mr Diot

Do not fear. There is nothing wrong with you. That is simply the fresh smell of bull$h|t. It comes naturally with all my posts of late.

Sincerlely

Dr D

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You might also inquire as to the following:

According to many of the protagonists on this CMKX thread, Glenn is top notch and well versed in securities law and non-law securities matters. Further, said protagonists also state that he has considerable experience with the SEC. Assuming all that is 100% correct, ask them why he has not insisted that CMKX shareholders have not been given information with which to make intelligent trading decisions. Such information is considered a key requirement both in securities law and by the SEC, is it not? Ask them why, since CMKX and various insiders (probably including Glenn) know the figures, the issued and outstanding has not been released. Why the finances of CMKX have not been released? They know those figures!!! If they file tax returns (profit OR loss), they MUST know such info. Try to persuade them that some interested people and traders do not buy the "big secret" "future plans" crap.
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noahltl responded to one of my statements below as follows:

Conflicts of interest and non-arm's length transactions? Typical of an unethical operation and they are commonplace.

A: You cite CMKX for illegal operations? Do you have proof to back that up?
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Please do not distort my statements or the intent of my meanings. I never once "cited CMKX for illegal operations"!!!

It is "common knowledge" (a legal term), with any NYSE listed company top officers as well as NYSE people who police their activities relative to the Exchange's Rules and Regulations, that conflicts of interest and non-arm's length transactions are considered unethical and not permitted with NYSE listed companies. If they happen, such as in the case of Enron and it becomes known, they are promptly terminated.

It just so happens that company deals with other companies owned or controlled by officers, directors and other insiders are resolved prior to any original (what you call new) listing on the Big Board. They would not be listed otherwise. What does that tell you as to what is considered ethical vs unethical?

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Originally posted by glassman:
yeah,but CMKX is a long-term hold ???

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CMKX has returned 3 to 4 times my initial investment.

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CMKX has returned 3 to 4 times my initial investment.

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Trend Mining Announces Entry Into Athabasca Uranium Play
Wednesday September 15, 1:51 pm ET

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"Guaranteed he is there to keep things legal so they can get away with what they have been doing with out criminal prosecution. How does that protect the shareholders?"

Protecting them (CMKX - Urban)from criminal prosecution, would indicate that they are involved in criminal activities from which they could be prosecuted. And it implies that RG is involved in a conspiracy to cover it up. Accessory after the fact?

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Originally posted by glassman:

Return is calculated on SALES noah, if you tried to SELL it right now, you would double i assume???
you ought to go into politics.....LOL

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Already been in politics once in my life. Dirty business. Didn't like it much. And you do know of course that smart invetors in this stock, have sold some in the past to get into a profit, or at least free share position?

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Originally posted by tic_toc:
Dear Dr D

For the last few months I have smelt this terrible smell whenever I log on and read your posts. Whatever could it be?

Yours,

I. Diot

Dear Mr Diot

Do not fear. There is nothing wrong with you. That is simply the fresh smell of bull$h|t. It comes naturally with all my posts of late.

Sincerlely

Dr D

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Tic, the good Dr is in every evening about 8-9 e.t. at his PalTalk site. Why don't you stop in tonight and confront him personally? He would probably love to discuss this with you.

Protecting them (CMKX - Urban)from criminal prosecution, would indicate that they are involved in criminal activities from which they could be prosecuted. And it implies that RG is involved in a conspiracy to cover it up. Accessory after the fact?

Keep spinning Wallace but I think you really stepped in it this time in your rather twisted zeal to bash this stock.
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Why do you think any company hires outside counsel? Do you think they just want to spend their money as opposed expecting said counsel (lawyers) to aid in protecting them and the company from litigation as well as criminal prosecution?

Please stop trying to be some kind of detective. Apply it to learning more about CMKX's questionable activities. You are out of your league when it comes to the securities markets.

"implies cover up"? That is not what I have been saying or suggesting whatsoever. What I have been saying would preclude the need to cover-up. Again, please do not distort my statements.

Option 3 might be our way up if our income is high enough.
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Up, I'm not a big fan of Green Baron, but what day / swing trader holds a stock for two years?

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