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So I guess I'll start this one.

All new posts from the last thread were being posted on page 5 of a 5 page thread, even though it was a 24 page thread. If others aren't having that problem, then just let this thread sink to the bottom.
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
this is bizarre...!!

Billions and Billions and Billions of Shareholders Contact FinancialWire Over 'Fax'

Aug 30, 2004 (financialwire.net via COMTEX) -- (FinancialWire) Friday's story that said omeone appears to have paid "Prospector Alert" a whopping $50,000 to send out faxed "Investors Alert!! GOLD, GOLD, GOLD" touts for Juina Mining (GEMM) which resulted in irate phone calls to Jody's Travel set off a firestorm among the online community as investors began to contact FinancialWire enmasse, some including threats.

Interestingly, however, the messages didn't come from Juina Mining investors but from CNKM Diamonds (CMKX) investors, which was mentioned only incidentally. The story noted that "the fax says that controlling interest in Juina has been acquired by US Canadian Minerals (UCAD), which it said 'has been on a tear since June, going from $1.35 to over $5.' Earlier in August, CMKM Diamonds, which is a favorite of Stock Patrol (www.stockpatrol.com) for its 500 billion shares, a world record number of shares outstanding, said it intends to distribute 95,502,027 of Juina Mining Corp. to its shareholders on October 1 as a dividend.

CMKM Diamonds is a "favorite" of StockPatrol (www.stockpatrol.com), an Investrend Information (www.investrendinformation.com) Investor Resource Center partner.

The story had noted that the 800 number given on the fax to "be removed immediately from the database" was missing a digit, leaving Jody Donnelly at Jodys Travel to field hundreds of calls from people wanting to be off the fax list, which she pointed out is "at my expense," not to mention the time and aggravation involved.

The fax broadcast said that the company, which trades at $0.028, has a one month target price of $0.50. The company traded at $0.20 in mid-2002 and spiked at $0.16 in late March, 2004.

It didn't say who the "analyst" is or the location of the report, who paid the $50,000, or the qualifications of the "analyst."

It concluded, "Donnelly just wants her phone number off the faxes and out of the mix."

One reader told FinancialWire, "you are breaking the law."

Another reader identifying himself as Trey Beathard with an email address at UReach.com, told FinancialWire that the story "referenced a woman named Jody Donnelly of 'Jody's Travel'. The problem is that she does not seem to exist. I, and several CMKX shareholders, need you to either verify the truthfulness of this PR (sic), or issue a retraction immediately. Let's clear up this mystery please, because we won't let this PR (sic) stand without further verification."

When Beathard was asked wht he meant by not letting this "PR" stand, or if his purported company was in anyway connected to the fax distribution, he did not respond.

Among the newest irate recipients of the fax was Pat Bernhardt of the Divine Peace Lutheran Church in Milwaukee, who asked FinancialWire: "We received a fax regarding Prospector Alert, on stock of GEMM.PK with a bogus number to be removed from the fax list. Do we call the FCC? Who is sending this out?"

Meanwhile, the only ones apparently not hearing of the article were the fax distributors themselves.

Donnelly contacted FinancialWire again to note that the offending fax was apparently sent out again, and now she is receiving a horde of new calls.

Donnelly has not said if she intends to sue, or if she's notified authorities. The biggest problem with that, of course, is that no one seems to know where the faxes are coming from.

Similarly, no one seems to know where the "CMKX shareholders" are coming from, but there appears to be billions and billions and billions of them. It seems there are at least 100 shares outstanding for every person on earth.

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Posted by noahltl on :
 
Thanks Win for starting the thread. I contacted Admin about the problem, and they couldn't find one, as per e-mail from them this morning. 12 hours of "quiet time" for us too.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
had the same trouble here win thanks
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
One of the questions asked before the thread collapse was about Aug 31 dividend. The PR can be read two ways. Payable on Aug 31, or payable on some unknown date to shareholder of record on Aug 31. Any thoughts? I tend to thing date of record, and distribution notice will come later.


LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 19, 2004--CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX - News) has agreed to invest US$1,000,000 in Casavant International Mining referred to as (CIM). CMKM Diamonds,Inc. will receive in return a 10% lifetime royalty on all mineral claims of CIM , specifically including the George Lake Zinc Deposit, (http://www.ir.gov.sk.ca/dbsearch/MinDepositQuery/Default.asp?ID=0663) In addition to the zinc deposit royalty CMKM Diamonds, Inc. will also receive 40 billion shares of CIM stock which CMKM Diamonds, Inc. will distribute pro rata as a dividend to all CMKM shareholders of record on August 31, 2004.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Just got off the phone with my Ameritrade rep. He said ex-date and record date of Aug. 31, payment date of Oct. 1.
 
Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
This is the second time "CIM" has been used to pay a dividend. As I see it I will receive a few shares more of CIM to add to the existing.
I hope I don't die before all these restrictions expire.
VAN
 
Posted by Tamie on :
 
well I have been lost and confused but finally made my way home...lol

Still the same huh?
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Good speculation from another board:


Pattreko
***CMKX: This is the End***
« Thread started on: Aug 29th, 2004, 5:24pm »

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***CMKX: This is the End***

Does everybody remember this statement which may or may not have been speculation: "Urban said that CMKX will be at .50 to .60 cents even without the covering of the naked short position!" As a team we have come up with many theories as to how this bold statement would eventually manifest itself as truth. Time and doubt has led many shareholders astray because of all these trials and potential disasters that the CMKX boards have suggested to us. Each one of us has been strengthened by these trials, or weakened to the point of selling off all our shares out of fear. This emotional rollercoaster has driven us to highs and lows daily, and in the end there is a life lesson to be learned from all of this. That, however, is beyond the context of this post. So, remember that little quote from above about what Urban said about 3-4 months ago. The big question is going to be how Urban could say such a thing, and what did we not know at the time or currently know that would provide some evidence to back up this statement.
REMEMBER: Urban says "Hold all your shares!"

In June we are made aware of Roger Glenn who was hired "in connection with securities and corporate issues faced by the company...in its desire to become fully reporting once again." Mnay of us assumed that the "securities" issue related to the naked short position and the "corporate" issue related to the status of becoming "fully-reporting." If CMKX were to become fully-reporting what are some variables that could be resolved because of this. Well, there is all the basics such as revenue, net income, etc. The most important, however, will be the land valuation.
REMEMBER: Follow the PRs...they tell all!

Immediately after Roger Glenn signs on, we are suddenly aware of positive results for diamondiforous kimberlite. Super! So, we already have diamonds. It's interesting how Roger signs on all of a sudden a few days later we have diamonds. It is by no means a coincidence. It has been planned this way. The only problem is that there ends up being a halt on our joint venture partners ticker because of something relating to unequal distribution of information since CMKX PRed, but the JVs did not. This was unplanned so a disappointing PR is released through Stockhouse or Stockwatch. We end up hearing about a few little diamonds found in a couple of samples, but, the rest of the samples are locked away in a secure warehouse. Guess what!? The plan in action that started when Roger Glenn came on isn't ready to reveal the real diamonds to the world, but just a little warning that there are diamonds. And our JV partners are allowed to trade, again.
REMEMBER: The plan has been set in motion, but the time hasn't come to reveal everything, yet!

The next PR we were given, besides the one about the message board being shut down, was the results of the Goldak Airborne Survey. Logically, what does the Survey have the ability to do for CMKX. Well, it tells us very specifically what all the land contains within its boundaries. By knowing what is contained within the ground and to what degree it is distributed what can we now derive. BINGO! Land valuation!!! Urban gives us some good news and warns the other guys, "For the first time in the history of diamond exploration in the Fort a' la Corne area, a complete and comprehensive magnetic picture of the whole area is available to the company." Urban is saying get ready - here is the big one!
REMEMBER: Hundreds of magnetic anomalies were able to be identified!

The next PR we find out about Pacific Stock Transfer. This situation ends up being an emotional rollercoaster for all shareholders who are riding on the O/S and what it might be. Joel calls up IBC radio and says he called Pacific Stock Transfer. Joel is greatly disappointed to hear that 1st Global Stock Transfer has sent Pacific Stock Transfer the O/S number: 400 Billion. Joel sells off and the public is greatly distressed. MMs take advantage and drop the price of CMKX. Melvin calls into IBC radio and says this is not true, and "don't believe it unless you see it in a PR!" However, the damage is done. The basher campaign has truly set in, and the seeds of doubt have been planted for the long-term. The emotional rollercoaster begins to reach a positive peak, again, when we found out that the 400 billion O/S number wasn't certified and was sent by an unknown source. Relax, everybody! CMKX picks up their boxes, and returns to 1st Global Stock Transfer. This was another curveball in the ultimate plan.
REMEMBER: U.S. Canadian Minerals retains Pacific Stock Transfer as their transfer agent. This isn't a hint, this is a smack in the face.

"CMKM Diamonds Launches National Television Exposure and Awareness Campaign"
Why in the world should CMKX do this. I know why: so that Urban can finish up diluting the O/S fully until there is nothing left. Then go spend the money on racing, and hot dogs for shareholders. WRONG! Truth: Urban's plan has been set in motion - Urban is a kind soul - Urban wants to share the future wealth of CMKX with as many people as possible - Urban wants to advertise the future product - Urban loves racing and has used his ingenious mind to combine his passion and his goals!
REMEMBER: Urban has fully exposed himself to world...this is no scam!

THE BOMBS ARE DROPPING!!!

CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Dividend to Shareholders of Record Date and Option Agreement
CMKM Diamonds, Inc., to invest in Casavant International Mining, Inc. Declares Dividend For Shareholders
CMKM Diamonds Inc. Acquires Additional Interests in Saskatchewan
CMKM Diamonds Inc. Receives First $3,000,000 from UCAD Option
CMKM Diamonds Inc. Purchases 25% of Juina Mining
CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces Dividend of Juina Mining Shares
CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Converges on Saskatchewan Drill Target

Oh, my GOD!!! UCAD dividend, CIM dividend, 60% interest of 500,000 acres, $$$, Juina Mining dividend, and drilling on a kimberlite pipe which is connected to DeBeers kimberlite pipe. Sounds like something Urban and Glenn came up with while fishing in Saskatchewan while downing a few beers. WRONG! This is big! This is real big!!! The simplest explanation would refer to a merger in the making. Why not just merge? Here's why: this story is going to be a novel someday, and how many pages would it fill if there weren't all these fine details. So, the more dramatic this story can be the better!
REMEMBER: CMKX owns some UCAD, UCAD owns some CMKX, Nevada Minerals own some CMKX, UCAD owns some Nevada Minerals, UCAD owns some Juina, CMKX owns some Juina...

Does everybody remember this statement which may or may not have been speculation: "Urban said that CMKX will be at .50 to .60 cents even without the covering of the naked short position!" This statement sounds like a statement with lots of confidence in it. If CMKX gave us a cash dividend the naked shorts would feel some pain, but they would not be forced to cover. So, even though, it would hurt there are no guarantees. From the Edwards and Angells website we find some interesting points. They specialize in Mergers and Acquisitions and they have ways of forcing the covering of naked short positions. BINGO!!! D. Roger Glenn, CMKM's counsel, stated, "I will be traveling to Saskatchewan with the company's management to expand my knowledge of the company and its business in order to facilitate the company becoming fully reporting."

SSShhhhhh. Why is everything so quiet? Why did Melvin, basically, disappear? Why does it seem like there is so much we need to know about, but we aren't hearing everything? Why is the PPS dropping? None of this matters because the plan is moving along just fine. How will CMKX be at .50 - .60 without the covering of the naked short position?...
D. Roger Glenn, CMKM's counsel, stated, "I will be traveling to Saskatchewan with the company's management to expand my knowledge of the company and its business in order to facilitate the company becoming fully reporting."
LAND VALUATION / O/S = .50 - .60 a share!!! Oh, my GOD!!! Could it be. And why will the shorts have to pay this to those who choose to hold. Here's why: because they are going to be forced into it! The naked shorts simply can't merge into the entity which we are about to witness firsthand. Can you say IPO? Goodbye, pink sheets.
REMEMBER: Sssshhhh, the time is coming...this is the end!!!


Review - This is the plan...

(1) CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces It Has Retained D. Roger Glenn, Partner at Edwards & Angell, LLP as Securities Counsel

(2) CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces 'Carolyn Pipe' Lab Results Confirm Diamondiferous Kimberlite

(3) CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Preliminary Results from Goldak Airborne Magnetic Survey of Saskatoon, Saskatchewan

(4) CMKM Diamonds Launches National Television Exposure and Awareness Campaign

(5) Dividends

(6) D. Roger Glenn, CMKM's counsel, stated, "I will be traveling to Saskatchewan with the company's management to expand my knowledge of the company and its business in order to facilitate the company becoming fully reporting."

(7) Silence

(8) The BOMB...land Valuation, fully-reporting, merger, covering of the naked shorts, IPO

(9) Las Vegas celebration because we have something to celebrate!!!


...That's all for now, everybody!!! I hope you are still part of the team....everything stated above which did not come from a PR is IMHO. Also, I did not reread this for errors, so go easy on me. I wanted to put this out now, as opposed to later. All comments are welcome!!!


)



 


Posted by Tamie on :
 
when is the vegas party?
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tamie:
when is the vegas party?

Tamie here is all the info on party

http://www.ourbusinessweb.com/cmkx/default.asp


 


Posted by dwman on :
 
.0004
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
Looks like much much smaller blocks are trading now.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
Is that "real people" trading? lol
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Double posted for some reason. Sorry

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Posted by noahltl on :
 
New Dividend amounts posted to OTC BB
Looks like we lost a few shares on both.

http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dividend.asp?sym_id=cmkx

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Posted by Tamie on :
 
there is a bit of a difference
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
those are downward revisions????
 
Posted by Tamie on :
 
of course
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
Does anyone know what the minimum IPO requirements are for listing on the London board?
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
now we have new numbers to speculate:

ucad

7,500,000/0.00000962 = 779,625,779,625 o/s??

cim

40,000,000,000/0.0256 = 1,562,500,000,000 o/s??


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Posted by dwman on :
 
pps just went to .0002 on that news.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
PPS bouncing back and forth, .0003 now.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Time (EST) Volume Price Exchange Bought/Sold Tran/Type Legend
13:53:00 300000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:52:42 9000000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:52:27 9000000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:51:30 1500000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:49:39 1500000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:48:15 1666666 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:48:12 2000000 0.0002 - OTCEQ_NBB
13:47:15 1500000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:47:09 250000 0.0002 - OTCEQ_NBB
13:46:45 4000000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:46:42 265000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:45:30 1250000 0.0002 - OTCEQ_NBB
13:44:57 2000000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:43:27 3000000 0.0002 - OTCEQ_NBB
13:41:51 2100000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:41:39 2000000 0.0002 - OTCEQ_NBB
13:39:18 5000000 0.0002 - OTCEQ_NBB
13:38:39 130000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:38:39 5000000 0.0002 - OTCEQ_NBB
13:37:12 300000 0.0002 - OTCEQ_NBB
13:34:36 470000 0.0002 - OTCEQ_NBB
13:34:18 2000000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:33:21 1400000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:30:42 2000000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:30:39 2000000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:30:33 2000000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:30:21 3333333 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:30:21 500000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:29:36 333333 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:29:33 2300000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:29:33 1000000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:26:54 600000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:26:51 5000000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:26:48 200000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:26:39 1000000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:26:30 200000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:26:12 1000000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:25:57 1000000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:25:48 9000000 0.0003 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:25:06 1333300 0.0003 OTCEQ_NBB


 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ok i'm still sticking with my theory...in the back woods of Sask. there was this old opium den left over from the 1800's, it was behind a very big tree so that nobody knew it was there. the air bourne survey spotted it and the meeting in Sask was to prove it was there. Remember just after the meeting the a/s was increased to 800 billion..the reason you ask?...aged opium....how else can you explain 1 dividend working out to 800 billion o/s and another to 1. whatever trillion
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
LOL... Bill gets my vote for post of the day.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
can anyone believe this stuff? if you put a show or movie out it would be in the sci-fi section. now we know why the a/s was increased. if cim doesn't get listed at $50 pps in the ipo there won't be any millionaires made in here. 800 BILLION O/S???????
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Notice that the difference between the recalculated OS (?) is double. 2 to 1 split to form a merger ???????

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Posted by glassman on :
 
i noticed that if UC gets no dividend it looks even more like he has no CMKX....
 
Posted by legal1082 on :
 
Good afternoon everyone. Did anything earth shattering happen over the weekend?
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
Yes, 96.2000000 shares of ucad for every cmkx share. ooooops Got the decimal in the wrong place.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
Sorry. Just had to do that.
 
Posted by legal1082 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
Yes, 96.2000000 shares of ucad for every cmkx share. ooooops Got the decimal in the wrong place.

LOL. Yeah, don't want to do that! Might get me toooooooooo excited!!!
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
.000000962 shares is just not exciting.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
If your IP number is lower than your share holdings, you might be a CMKX redneck.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
Actually, in spite of the fact that so many unbelievable things have been happening to this stock, I still feel that it is not a scam. One would think that by now it would have been exposed by all the first rate detectives we have working on DD. I mean that as the highest compliment. I have learned so much from you guys.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
LOL, Noah. I just might have to vote for a joint post of the day for both you and bill.
 
Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Hi Everyone. I think the dividends being recalculated is still not giving the number of shares until we find out how the dividends were split among the shares. Are they using every share to give to every share? I know the 8% dividend figure is from an old PR and isn't written in stone. But is it a possibility? I am not even asking if it is a probability since most people would say no. Is it a possibility? Thanks and I will get back to BIBO now. -Debi
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
If you know the names of Urban's family members better than those of your own family, you may be a CMKX redneck.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
If you're waiting for your welfare check so you can buy more shares, you might be a CMKX redneck.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well i thought that 8% was possible till today. the numbers do not work anymore. but they sure match the increase in the a/s that is if the cim shares changed to 20 billion. i'm at the point that i'm hoping to hear something from the company before i retire. that gives them 20 yrs, give or take a few hundred billion seconds
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
if ya notice...gemm is down 30%, ucad is down over $2 from a couple weeks ago. being involved with cmkx is costing all the partners pps
 
Posted by legal1082 on :
 
At this point, lets hope they know something we obviously haven't been privy to yet
 
Posted by Waveslider on :
 

WOW ENOUGH SAID!
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
a few have talked about cmkx flipping over to become cim but that would end up a 20/1 r/s plus the shares that were handed out in 2003 or was that cmi in 2003. if them meshed cim & cmi issued an ipo converting all cmkx into cim with a 100 billion a/s & o/s it would be a 8/1 r/s and as sad as it is to say or think ppl would be over joyed because anything is better then a 800 billion o/s which according to the otc post is where we stand. thus every million shares of cmkx would become 125,000 shares of cim. maybe cmkx is naked shorted and as nobody would sell it couldn't be covered

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Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i dont think they make charts for a company with a 800 billion o/s...lol

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Posted by dwman on :
 
If we are going to list and need a cash dividend to prevent large scale selling, does anyone care to hazard a guess as to the amount of that div?
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Well, if we take the new dividend numbers at face value, then it looks like UC owns nearly every AS. And the other 780 billion we own are all NSS. That is, if the poster below is right.

Borehole
Dividends, OS, and UC's %
« Thread started on: Today at 4:54pm »

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This makes sense:

With the new dividends we have:

a UCAD Dividend revealing an OS of: 779,625,779,625

a CIM Dividend revealing an OS of: 1,562,500,000,000

Subtract the two and you get 782,874,220,375

If we look at the PR from July 26th:

"As announced earlier, U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. recently issued 7.5 million shares of the company's stock to CMKM in exchange for certain mineral rights. Those shares have been issued to CMKM and will be distributed to shareholders of record of CMKM on Aug. 20, 2004. Due to Casavant's share contribution to the property acquisition by CMKM occurring prior to the Aug. 20, 2004, date, Casavant will not receive this or any subsequent dividend."

This is strange because the UCAD Dividend was announced on July 18th (via PR), but this Dividend was AMMENDED with the paragraph (above) on July 26th.

Now read the paragraph again. The last sentence is the most important. UC will pay the UCAD dividend based on shareholders on record at that time for the UCAD Dividend and ANY OTHER DIVIDENDS GIVEN AFTER!

But, if we look at the PR from JULY 19th, regarding the CIM Dividend, THIS RULE DOES NOT APPLY!

So the UCAD Dividend is JUST for Shareholders.

The CIM Dividend is for ALL shareholders INCLUDING URBAN.

Any other Dividends will be JUST for Shareholders.

So, this means that UC owns 782,874,220,375 shares, just over 50%! - CONTROLLING INTEREST.

Which leaves shareholders with 779,625,779,625 shares, just under 50%!

JMO. GLTA.



 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Something must be up, not a single basher in the room tonight. Taking cover?
 
Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
Somthing that arrived in my mail box, this is interesting:

Billions and Billions and Billions of Shareholders Contact FinancialWire Over 'Fax'

Aug 30, 2004 (financialwire.net via COMTEX) -- (FinancialWire) Friday's story that said omeone appears to have paid "Prospector Alert" a whopping $50,000 to send out faxed "Investors Alert!! GOLD, GOLD, GOLD" touts for Juina Mining (GEMM) which resulted in irate phone calls to Jody's Travel set off a firestorm among the online community as investors began to contact FinancialWire enmasse, some including threats.

Interestingly, however, the messages didn't come from Juina Mining investors but from CNKM Diamonds (CMKX) investors, which was mentioned only incidentally. The story noted that "the fax says that controlling interest in Juina has been acquired by US Canadian Minerals (UCAD), which it said 'has been on a tear since June, going from $1.35 to over $5.' Earlier in August, CMKM Diamonds, which is a favorite of Stock Patrol (www.stockpatrol.com) for its 500 billion shares, a world record number of shares outstanding, said it intends to distribute 95,502,027 of Juina Mining Corp. to its shareholders on October 1 as a dividend.

CMKM Diamonds is a "favorite" of StockPatrol (www.stockpatrol.com), an Investrend Information (www.investrendinformation.com) Investor Resource Center partner.

The story had noted that the 800 number given on the fax to "be removed immediately from the database" was missing a digit, leaving Jody Donnelly at Jodys Travel to field hundreds of calls from people wanting to be off the fax list, which she pointed out is "at my expense," not to mention the time and aggravation involved.

The fax broadcast said that the company, which trades at $0.028, has a one month target price of $0.50. The company traded at $0.20 in mid-2002 and spiked at $0.16 in late March, 2004.

It didn't say who the "analyst" is or the location of the report, who paid the $50,000, or the qualifications of the "analyst."

It concluded, "Donnelly just wants her phone number off the faxes and out of the mix."

One reader told FinancialWire, "you are breaking the law."

Another reader identifying himself as Trey Beathard with an email address at UReach.com, told FinancialWire that the story "referenced a woman named Jody Donnelly of 'Jody's Travel'. The problem is that she does not seem to exist. I, and several CMKX shareholders, need you to either verify the truthfulness of this PR (sic), or issue a retraction immediately. Let's clear up this mystery please, because we won't let this PR (sic) stand without further verification."

When Beathard was asked wht he meant by not letting this "PR" stand, or if his purported company was in anyway connected to the fax distribution, he did not respond.

Among the newest irate recipients of the fax was Pat Bernhardt of the Divine Peace Lutheran Church in Milwaukee, who asked FinancialWire: "We received a fax regarding Prospector Alert, on stock of GEMM.PK with a bogus number to be removed from the fax list. Do we call the FCC? Who is sending this out?"

Meanwhile, the only ones apparently not hearing of the article were the fax distributors themselves.

Donnelly contacted FinancialWire again to note that the offending fax was apparently sent out again, and now she is receiving a horde of new calls.

Donnelly has not said if she intends to sue, or if she's notified authorities. The biggest problem with that, of course, is that no one seems to know where the faxes are coming from.

Similarly, no one seems to know where the "CMKX shareholders" are coming from, but there appears to be billions and billions and billions of them. It seems there are at least 100 shares outstanding for every person on earth.

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Posted by glassman on :
 
the numbers sure don't add up...

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Posted by glassman on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by noahltl:
[B]now we have new numbers to speculate:

ucad

7,500,000/0.00000962 = 779,625,779,625 o/s??

cim

40,000,000,000/0.0256 = 1,562,500,000,000 o/s??

trying to apply SIMPLE logic again....

how about this...
they decided to give TWICE as many shares of CIM out???? 80 Billion instead???

isn't CIM privately held????
who is in control of it????

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited August 30, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by noahltl:
[B]now we have new numbers to speculate:

ucad

7,500,000/0.00000962 = 779,625,779,625 o/s??

cim

40,000,000,000/0.0256 = 1,562,500,000,000 o/s??

trying to apply SIMPLE logic again....

how about this...
they decided to give TWICE as many shares of CIM out???? 80 Billion instead???

isn't CIM privately held????
who is in control of it????

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited August 30, 2004).]



Yeah Glass, CIM privately held. don't think they would have doubled the dividend without a PR. But then I wouldn't have thought they would up the AS without a PR!!!! Go figger.

It really looks more like a 2 to 1 forward split, between dividends.

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited August 30, 2004).]
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
so the one post from another board is excited that UC owns over 50% of 1.6 trillion shares? folks the o/s of the S&P 500 isn't 1.6 trillion shares. the only thing you can add up on the S&P that gets over 1.6 trillion is yearly income and i bet the net isn't much over that. which means cmkx would need to dig up enough diamonds per yr to beat the entire net income of the top 500 companys in the US to get to a $1 pps. and you wonder where the bashers went? they are rolling on the floor laughing. i never for one moment thought cmkx was a scam and i still have hope that something might happen to fix all this but reality has to set in at some point here. maybe it was naked shorted so bad there was no way to fix it but put all the mm's out of business. maybe there is something in the pot to cover all us shareholders.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
so the one post from another board is excited that UC owns over 50% of 1.6 trillion shares? folks the o/s of the S&P 500 isn't 1.6 trillion shares. the only thing you can add up on the S&P that gets over 1.6 trillion is yearly income and i bet the net isn't much over that. which means cmkx would need to dig up enough diamonds per yr to beat the entire net income of the top 500 companys in the US to get to a $1 pps. and you wonder where the bashers went? they are rolling on the floor laughing. i never for one moment thought cmkx was a scam and i still have hope that something might happen to fix all this but reality has to set in at some point here. maybe it was naked shorted so bad there was no way to fix it but put all the mm's out of business. maybe there is something in the pot to cover all us shareholders.
\


Bill I reposted that article from the other board because it points out the ludicrousness of trying to maintain a position that there is no NSS on this stock.

Let's remember that those dividend numbers are not necessarily set in stone, as witnessed by the fact that they changed today. If they were in fact reported by the company to OTC, we really don't know what Roger is up to. What kind of smokescreen he may be using to shake the MM's, how the new AS figures into a merger. etc. etc.

We have been saying all along that this is a soap opera, and no one knows how it play out until we see the last chapter.

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited August 30, 2004).]
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
The first time OTC came out with .xxxxxx or whatever on the UCAD div., some people were like, 'there it is, on OTC,set in stone'.
But it wasn't,now we got .xxxxxxx or whatever.This is crazy.
They need to hurry up and get this stright.Atrade said my div.'s payable in 25 more days.
HA HA HA,Glad I'm not daytrading this one.

 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
The first time OTC came out with .xxxxxx or whatever on the UCAD div., some people were like, 'there it is, on OTC,set in stone'.
But it wasn't,now we got .xxxxxxx or whatever.This is crazy.
They need to hurry up and get this stright.Atrade said my div.'s payable in 25 more days.
HA HA HA,Glad I'm not daytrading this one.


Highway, I think you hit the nail on the head that this is not a stock to be daytraded. Most of us here, engage in day and swing trading, and expect rapid movements, one way or the other. When we don't get them, we get upset. But I will give Urban this, that he told us all a long time ago to 'hold your stock'. That should have put everyone on notice that this was going to be a long journey. And no one should be faulting him for staying the course, no matter how long it takes, until he puts this company on a track to long term growth.

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited August 30, 2004).]

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Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well in a phone call to ameritrade one week ago today the pay date wasn't set in stone. the first person i talked to sent me to a section that controls payments and spreading out dividends. they had said not the date nor the amount were for sure well they were 1/2 right...lol ...so far that is. i was one that didn't think it was naked shorted but these 2 differant splits in the divended may only be explained by a full accounting. we know the rules say mm's are supposed to report every share they sell to the dtc (whatever the correct letters are) but tell them they naked shorted a stock 3 times the a/s? according to the CIM split. i would think they would not be reporting anything to anyone, hiding the profit is easy for a good book keeper. which again says how can cmkx account for the naked short, how can they come up with a number to put on it? if that holds true you would have to wonder why its not the lead story on the national news
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
By: bill19336
29 Aug 2004, 11:20 PM EDT
Msg. 74061 of 74111
Jump to msg. #

***A skeletal outline of Urban's business model ***

Start with Urban's dream and move to a...

STRATEGY
1. Work with TACY to create a bold marketing strategy that takes the diamond industry from a Monopoly (De Beers) to a Free Market.

CLAIMS
2. Purchase CLAIMS quietly and over a period of many years in a mineral rich area (FALC is world class).

FINANCING
3. Line up financing with silent partners early in the plan. This is why financing has never been a problem for CMKX (Ed, Rick, BSIC, etc.).

EXPLORATION
4. Fund the most technologically advanced aerial survey ever completed in the area. By targeting surveyed areas you can efficiently map a kimberlite pipe at a fraction of the time and money.

LEGAL
5. Bring in well known and respected legal representation (Roger Glenn & Associates). Roger's experience as an accountant will also come in handy when laying the infrastructure of an empire. As I've said before, he was not brought in to end the De Beers and MMs dynasties, he was brought in to construct the Casavant Empire.

MARKETING
6. Create a marketing plan that targets one of THE LARGEST growing demographic groups in the country (auto racing fans).

HOLDING COMPANY
7. Create a holding company that will be beyond the reach of manipulation (CIM?) and hand feed it into health.

PARTNERS
8(a). Move UCAD and GEMM away from manipulation where they can trade on their own merits (gold, silver, etc., etc.).
8(b) Allow partners to add financing & infrastructure prior to next move. ***WE ARE HERE***
8(c) Continue to add partners who will eventually stream their revenues into the CMKX barrel (remember, we're an exploration and financial company).

MINING
9. Create a series of partnerships to add the operational management and talent needed to manage a growing stable of companies (UCAD and it's talented management is critical - R. Williams, etc.)

POLISH & CUT
10. Form a partnership that will allow you to polish and cut Casavant Diamonds (Diagem).

ETCH BRAND NAME
11. Find a partner who can use a special process to etch the Casavant Diamonds (Nevada). Diamonds will be marketed as conflict free ("PURE CASAVANT" = PC Diamonds). Imagine, you could build an entire marketing strategy around "PURE" blood free diamonds. They could be marketed as politically correct "PC" diamonds, sounds kind of cool to me, but what do I know.

DISTRIBUTE
12(a) Set up a distribution network to retail the larger and more expensive "Pure Casavant" brand diamonds in a fancy setting (Diagem).
12(b) Create an internet site to wholesale the inexpensive smaller diamonds along with the CMKXtreme merchandise.
12(c) Distribute kimberlite fertilizer to retail outlets along with other innovative products (TACY again?).

In summary, several things strike me about the plan unfolding before our eyes. First, Urban has built his plan around synergy and economies of scale? Second, Urban's plan is all encompassing and complete. Lastly, his plan took 15 years to get to where we are today. Stick around for the great unveiling, it's going to be spectacular and it's going to be soon.

Good Luck and BE PATIENT!!!
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
http://www.thegreenbaron.com/Latest%20Update.htm

8/30/04

August Focus Stock Pick Update

CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (CMKX)


No News is Good News

At first we thought there would be some news announced last week as a result of meetings that took place in mid August that included legal counsel D. Roger Glenn and other key players. The date of record for the US Canadian Minerals (UCAD) dividend was August 20 and the date of record for Casavant International Mining is tomorrow August 31. It just seemed that with all this corporate activity and dividend declarations that we would see quite a bit of commentary from the company.


The Green Baron Report believes the lack of specific news regarding the dividends and the meetings in Canada is being done strategically with a specific goal in mind. If CEO Urban Casavant’s concern over naked shorted shares (NSS) is legitimate, then it would take a master plan to eliminate the NSS. The company hired one of the best attorneys in the country in Mr. Roger Glenn of Edwards & Angell to get the company fully reporting once again. Since that time, CMKM Diamonds has announced three stock dividends and several other releases that seem to point to a bright future for the company, but leave us short of understanding the overall meaning.


Everyone might recall when Urban Casavant stated that “hiring Edwards & Angell, LLP, and specifically Mr. Glenn, is the best thing that we could have done for the company and the shareholders. The fact that Mr. Glenn began his illustrious career with the Securities and Exchange Commission is a further feather in the company’s hat. We would like to thank all of our shareholders for their patience as we have moved towards this moment and as we move forward from here as a team.”


We learn from this release in early June of 2004 that shareholders need to maintain a little more patience, and that Mr. Glenn’s experience with the SEC has been noted. Mr. Glenn has written about NSS in one of his books, and says the best way to relieve the problem is through a merger or acquisition by a private company. If this is where we are headed, Mr. Glenn’s prior experience with the SEC will be helpful. It is also interesting that CMKM Diamonds, Inc. is closely involved with two private companies, Casavant International Mining and Nevada Minerals. Only time will tell!


Finally, a representative from our parent company, Evergreen Marketing, will be attending the NHRA races this next weekend in Indianapolis . We believe it is time for the company to answer questions regarding the dividends and to clarify why the company recently increased the authorized number of shares by 300 billion to 800 billion. We are scheduled to meet with two principals of US Canadian Minerals (a close partner of CMKM Diamonds) at the event including Mr. Ed Denoux and CEO Mr. Rendal Williams. We are hopeful that Urban Casavant will be attending also to answer our questions, and confirm a time we can conduct our Green Baron CEO Webcast. Once again, we do not suggest trading shares of CMKX back and forth if you want to ensure delivery of all stock dividends, and realize the potential gains of what we believe is the Stock Play of a Lifetime.
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
I hope we get some answers from the GB!!
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well news or not there's no reason to sell now. i don't think we'll hear anything from cmkx till oct.and it doesn't look like they are going to exercize the option for juinia. the way the pr was stated it sounded like it was almost a done deal. it would be nice to know why the huge differance in the ucad & cim dividend split. the otc should be posting the juinia split soon. that might shed some light
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i like the idea of interviewing UC...
i think the markets in general need to be reformed in the direction of "holding CEO's feet to the fire"
pinks would be an odd place to expect this ----but GO FOR IT!!!!
 
Posted by tic_toc on :
 
This story really is getting tedious. There has to be an agenda. Why would Financial Wire keep publishing a pointless story? They seem to be tied in with Stockpatrol.

'Fax' Story Just Won't Go Away
Aug 31, 2004 (financialwire.net via COMTEX) --
(FinancialWire) The FinancialWire story about Juina Mining (OTC: GEMM), CNMK Diamonds (OTC: CMKX) and U.S. Canadian Minerals (OTCBB: UCAD), and the resulting irate calls to a Verizon (NYSE: VZ) 800 small business customer, just doesn't seem to want to die.

First unless the mysterious payer of the $50,000 to the equally mysterious "Prospector Alert" to tout Juina Mining (OTC: GEMM) meant simply to create volume so he or she could dump the stock at any price, the uninvited and similarly mysterious fax broadcaster seems to be doing the company and its shareholders more harm than good. On Friday, the first day that FinancialWire became aware of the fax, through Monday, the stock has dropped like a rock, no the shiny kind, from about $0.032 to $0.0179, almost in half.

Friday's story that said the faxed "Investors Alert!! GOLD, GOLD, GOLD" touts for Juina Mining resulted in irate phone calls to Jody's Travel and set off a firestorm among the online community as investors began to contact FinancialWire enmasse, some including threats.

Interestingly, however, it said, the messages didn't come from Juina Mining investors but from CNKM Diamonds investors, which was mentioned only incidentally.

The story noted that "the fax says that controlling interest in Juina has been acquired by US Canadian Minerals (OTCBB: UCAD), which it said 'has been on a tear since June, going from $1.35 to over $5.' Earlier in August, CMKM Diamonds, which is a favorite of Stock Patrol ( www.stockpatrol.com ) for its more than 500 billion shares, a world record number of shares outstanding, said it intends to distribute 95,502,027 of Juina Mining Corp. to its shareholders on October 1 as a dividend.

The story had noted that the 800 number given on the fax to "be removed immediately from the database" was missing a digit, leaving Jody Donnelly at Jodys Travel in Boxford, Massachusetts, to field hundreds of calls from people wanting to be off the fax list, which she pointed out is "at my expense," not to mention the time and aggravation involved.

The fax broadcast said that the company, which trades at $0.028, has a one month target price of $0.50. The company traded at $0.20 in mid-2002 and spiked at $0.16 in late March, 2004.

It didn't say who the "analyst" is or the location of the report, who paid the $50,000, or the qualifications of the "analyst."

It concluded, "Donnelly just wants her phone number off the faxes and out of the mix."

Her frustration has continued to grow, as the fax broadcast keeps on rolling along. She said the fax has continued unabated every day since the FinancialWire story Friday, and that so far she has gotten no help from her complaints to the Federal Communications Commission, the Better Business Bureau, the Department of Telecommunications and Energy, or the Attorneys General of Colorado or Massachusetts.

Another reader identifying himself as Trey Beathard with an email address at UReach.com, told FinancialWire that the story "referenced a woman named Jody Donnelly of 'Jody's Travel'. The problem is that she does not seem to exist. I, and several CMKX shareholders, need you to either verify the truthfulness of this PR (sic), or issue a retraction immediately. Let's clear up this mystery please, because we won't let this PR (sic) stand without further verification."

When Beathard was asked wht he meant by not letting this "PR" stand, or if his purported company was in anyway connected to the fax distribution, he did not respond.

Beathard has since been in touch with FinancialWire to deny that he ever received a request for comment or that his company is anyway involved in the fax.

Said Beathard: "I buy and sell mineral rights in Houston, Texas. I work by myself in a home

office. I have never engaged in stock touting, and never will. I have never spammed email, and never will."

Among the newest irate recipients of the fax was Pat Bernhardt of the Divine Peace Lutheran Church in Milwaukee, who asked FinancialWire: "We received a fax regarding Prospector Alert, on stock of GEMM.PK with a bogus number to be removed from the fax list. Do we call the FCC? Who is sending this out?"

According to Jody Donnelly, the answers are good luck, and who knows?

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Posted by bill1352 on :
 
all this stuff, faxes, the cmkx o/s , pumpers, & bashers is going to seriously hurt 3 companies. GEMM, UCAD & CMKX. its not going to matter what they find in the ground. no word from cmkx on the otc post's of a 800 billion or 1.6 trillion o/s. with each day trust is getting crushed. notice no pumpers or bashers posting here now, not even ppl that saw trouble but hoped for the best. well here's hoping that UC & his partner co.'s can pull this whole mess out of the fire.
 
Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Edwards and Engall our attorney firm filed a law suit this morning for NNOS, alledging the naked short position was greater than the OS.

Are we next.

NNOS moved up .0005 immediately upon the news.
 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Great news, Raider! I believe that's worthy to post here. You go for it, Gary Walters!

Nanosignal Corp Inc     (OTHER OTC: NNOS) Last Update: 9:01:00 AM ET Aug 31, 2004  
 
NanoSignal Stockholder Sues Major Wall Street Institutions for ``Counterfeiting'' Shares

LAS VEGAS, Aug 31, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- A lawsuit filed in Las Vegas County Court today by a major stockholder in NanoSignal Corporation (NNOS) alleges that a group of major Wall Street institutions has systematically damaged the market for the stock of NNOS and many other companies by flooding the market with fraudulently manufactured, virtually counterfeit shares.

By mis-using its "Stock Borrow Program" for the personal profit of its members, rather than the purposes for which it was originally established in 1981, New York's Depository Trust Company (DTC) has created artificial shares in NNOS and other publicly-traded companies, the lawsuit (Case No. A491236) filed by Las Vegas resident Gary W. Walters claims.

One defendant in the lawsuit, Jersey City-based stockbroker Knight Trading Group, Inc. is presently "short" 447 million shares of NNOS, Mr. Walters' lawsuit alleges. That's more than double the number of NNOS legitimately issued and outstanding shares. This is only possible because DTC and its National Securities Clearing Corporation subsidiary (NSCC) have created hundreds of millions of "counterfeit" electronic shares that don't actually exist, Walters says.

The market value of NanoSignal's shares has been reduced by these illegal practices, Mr. Walters' lawsuit states, and he seeks to recover his damages from the defendants in this suit. "I believe that investors in many other companies have been hurt by the conduct of these defendants," Mr. Walters states. "I hope that my lawsuit will remind them once again that in all of their activities, the financial institutions that comprise Wall Street must always put the interests of the small investor first. If my suit prevails, Wall Street will have to undergo a major paradigm shift."

Commenting upon the merits of Mr. Walters' lawsuit, NanoSignal's chairman, Dr. Rupert Perrin, a two-time Nobel Prize nominee, stated that "the conduct of these institutions, abusing their positions of trust to profit from their fraudulently-obtained short positions at the expense of thousands of small investors, is irresponsible and despicable. I expect that this suit will teach them the lesson that they deserve."

 


Posted by glassman on :
 
kinda hard to compare UC to a Nobel Prize winner tho....
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Beat to the post by seconds. LOL

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited August 31, 2004).]
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
It is rumor now that this is a case by our attorneys firm. Posted on RB but unconfirmed.

For those who say NSS dont exist, they are a figment of everyones imagination. You can imagine our firm sticking some imaginary shares up Knights rear.

Just imagine it.
 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Yeah, that's what I call filling their shorts!

Why are you walking funny, Mr. Knight? Tough day at the orifice?

quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
It is rumor now that this is a case by our attorneys firm. Posted on RB but unconfirmed.

For those who say NSS dont exist, they are a figment of everyones imagination. You can imagine our firm sticking some imaginary shares up Knights rear.

Just imagine it.



 


Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Hi Everyone, I saw the NNOS article this morning and of course thought of CMKX. It is interesting that the filer is located in Las Vegas but I didn't see any E & A connection. I hope there is.

The naked shorting issue is real and not going to go away without a definitive win for some victims somewhere along the line.

Tic Toc-Stock patrol and the company that publishes the article you posted are definitely related it says so in some of their articles as you continue reading. It is like trying to get war news from the National Enquirer. IMO-Debi
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well the differance in the split of the ucad & cim shares posted on otc says something is wrong. the trouble is why UC increased the a/s to cover the new ucad split at least it looks that way
 
Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
A post from RB

quote:

perrin had/has ties to cmkx
gary walters had/has ties to ucad

mike king had/has ties to cmkx and i think the co. that owned some of ucads new land. help anyone please.




My concern is this is by a stockholder not the company. How would the company be benefited?
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Does anyone remember what day CMKX's a/s went from 500 to 800 billion?
 
Posted by rivercity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Does anyone remember what day CMKX's a/s went from 500 to 800 billion?

up, i believe aug. 18th. rivercity
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
I think the filing was made Wednesday 18th August
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Thanks guys, one last question, can someone post a link to the otcbb dividend page?
 
Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
If I remember right NNOS was spun out of Cybermark, Gary Walters their CEO is connected to UCAD and other companies.


Also it is now being reported that Ameritrade will not confirm or honor the divvy numbers put out on the OTC.BB website because the company has not given those numbers.

This is getting very interesting. If the nss of CMKX is twice OS and the OS reported was 483 billion, then our os could be half that with UC owning most.
 


Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
This is from RB. The link would be BBX equity group and their pockets are plenty deep. IMO-Debi

Noah-Did you get any ONEV at .09? it is .134 bid now down from .138 I am going to wait to probably sell around .17. IMO-Debi

GARY WALTERS

Name: BBX EQUITY GROUP, LLC

Type: Limited Liability Company File Number: LLC1643-2003 State: NEVADA Incorporated On: February 06, 2003
Status: Current list of officers on file Corp Type: Limited Liability Company
Resident Agent: SCOTT A. ERVIN (Accepted)
Address: 5440 WEST SAHARA
#206
LAS VEGAS NV 89146-
Manager or Member: GARY WALTERS
Address: 2808 COWAN CIRCLE
MANAGER
LAS VEGAS NV 89107-
Manager or Member: MICHAEL KING
Address: 2808 COWAN CIRCLE
MANAGER
LAS VEGAS NV 89107-
Manager or Member:
Address:



 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
It looks like the war has begun.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:

The naked shorting issue is real and not going to go away without a definitive win for some victims somewhere along the line.

IMO-Debi



i agree the NNS is a big issue Debbi.
i am just skeptical that us litle guys will profit from it...
i have had several class action claim forms sent to me...so far i have just thrown them all in the trash because they weren't worth the time to fill out. the lawyers make a lot more than we do...

 


Posted by FurrySound on :
 
I've also had a bunch of claim forms come to me for various class actions... I'm currently up over $750 from them, so it's been worth filling them out. Also note, that if less people fill them out than are mailed, they usually increase what gets distributed, so maybe I should thank you for not sending them in

------------------
FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Glassman, now you are changing your tune. Before you were saying CMKX wasn't shorted and UC was dumping. Now you say,

"Shorting is a big issue"

Are you starting to own up to the reality of a huge short, or just trying to spin WWJD to think we can never win?

If NNOS can be shorted twice their OS we can too.
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Is the suggestion being made that nothing will happen to the pps of cmkx until the nss thing gets settled in court?
 
Posted by Brad on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
Is the suggestion being made that nothing will happen to the pps of cmkx until the nss thing gets settled in court?


Something can happen with the pps if they start mining diamonds.

 


Posted by Tamie on :
 
you would think with all the negativity floating around cmkx someone would step forward and issue a pr. it cant be helping them any at this rate
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
Glassman, now you are changing your tune. Before you were saying CMKX wasn't shorted and UC was dumping. Now you say,

"Shorting is a big issue"

Are you starting to own up to the reality of a huge short, or just trying to spin WWJD to think we can never win?

If NNOS can be shorted twice their OS we can too.


NO!!!!!!

Once again you guys are twisting my words....other NSS exists

CMKX has sold 300 billion shares to the market..i did the math...did it over the months, and posted it as i saw it OVER THE MONTHS--do the DD...there is no trilllion share naked short that i can see...i don't know where these figures even came from....

1-2 billion CMKX share volume/day over the course of a year IS 300 billion shares....
NNOS is FILING COMPANY not the same as CMKX
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250 trading days time 1.5 BILLION=375 billion subtract some buying by the MM's--the MM's did buy some shares

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited August 31, 2004).]
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
We haven't filed suit yet. But if a new company is spun off through divvys or a new ipo then we channel money to new company and cmkx can file their suit and wait it out forever if they want.

I'm not privvy to whats really happening though.

Dont make decisions based upon my theories.
 


Posted by Tamie on :
 
I've been scanning all the newspapers in canada and nevada and nothing there either.
 
Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Tamie,

Those who were owners of record today are the proud owners of a new and clean company, from this point forward I believe our attorneys can begin the war. I dont think the NNOS law suit falling on the record date of our divvy is a coinscidence


 


Posted by Tamie on :
 
Anybody know when we started sponsoring Sick Chick CC Rider Racing?
 
Posted by Tamie on :
 
http://www.ccriderracing.cc/Sponsors.html
 
Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Gary Walters is also ceo of Ramoil or was at one time.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
Do we get our dividend shares in our accounts tomorrow?
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Posted by Zen on IHUB today:


THE TURNING POINT

It is my belief that today marks a critical date. After today, IN MY OPINION, you will never be able to own shares of CIM again until they debut as a publicly traded company (IMO on a higher exchange). It all depends on which theory you think is most viable (which I know appears to be a crapshoot these days). But if you believe the theory that significant CMKX holdings (if not all) will be folded into/rolled up into/merged into/etc. through CIM, then you will not be a shareholder of record after today eligible for the CIM dividends. There are some that believe the short squeeze will take CMKX to great heights for short-term profitability and then, KABOOM, CMKX either dissolves or continues to exist only in a minor form while the bulk (or all) of assets end up under CIM. And then not only have you profited in the runup on the short squeeze short-term, but because you now already own the CIM shares, you will be assured of great long-term success as an IPO with proper valuation brings CIM to the market at an unspecified later date. Both short-term and long-term success for shareholders. All of this of course assumes you accept this theory.

And if you do, then today marks the true turning point. You will no longer be a shareholder of record on the company books for the August 31 record date for CIM shares after today. IMO, it is very possible that Urban had to sit on news until this happened. Let's say he released great news last week and CMKX began to run. Many would sell on the run-up. And all those that sold would give up their LONG TERM success with CIM by missing the shareholder record date.

This is all food for thought. I have no reason at this point to believe this theory any more than any other theory. BUT, if this theory is correct, today would mark a true watershed event. And yes, this relates to my original feeling that September 1 is Roger Glenn Hammertime. I have since hedged on that bet because, to be honest, there are still just too many viable theories out there for me to feel VERY confident towards any one. But if this is the RIGHT theory, then yes, after today things could get explosive in the very near future. Good luck to everyone.


Z

 


Posted by Tamie on :
 
noah, did you read my earlier post? Didnt know if you knew about that or not.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tamie:
noah, did you read my earlier post? Didnt know if you knew about that or not.


Tamie, I assume you're talking about the SlickChick thing. No I really don't get into the racing thing. Only watch what's happening as it relates to the stock. I'm only going to the race this weekend to find out what's going on, and hopefully meet UC and make a judgement as to his believability.


 


Posted by Tamie on :
 
cmkx has them listed on their website as a partner, and cc riders website has cmkx listed as a new sponsor
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
Has anyone noticed that the forum at www.cmkx.net is active now?
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
This is from the cmkx unofficial board. It is long but I thought worth posting here.

I don't know why the extra 300B shares was authorized but I have faith that UC is not diluting the company to scam the shareholders. He has been too public with his appearances at races and such. A scam artist would probably lay low out of the public eye. UC just isn't doing that. So there must be a good reason for it and it doesn't make any difference to us legitimate shareholders. I have never posted a big theory as to what is going on but I believe the following is happening. UC and Roger Glenn know we have a huge share problem (duh!). They also know how many outstanding shares there truely are because he issued them. I believe the audit done 2 months ago was not to determine the outstanding shares, but to determine who the shareholders are - that is who the legitimate shareholders are - people like you and me who pay our brokerage the current value and get shares - not the crooks out there like the off-shore hedge funds and the other organized crime people. So the audit tells UC who the legitimate shareholders are. WIth this knowledge I think the following will happen:

CMKX as we know it today will go away. CMKX and its assets, along with the legitimate shareholders will move to CIM. Remember CIM is private and does not trade on an exchange. Therefore it is totally divorced from the MM and UC has control over who gets the private shares of this private company. Remember UC also said in the past that he wants a Casavant brand name on diamonds. With CIM, the name stays. Now you will probably say what about the CMKX name on the racecars and advertising etc. I will get to that later. So the question is, what is our (the legitimate shareholders) stake in CIM. We know that 40 Bil shares of CIM will be distributed. What we don't know is what the true O/S is. But there may be some clues. I think the 8% rule may be a key as others have stated. 8% of 483 B is 38.6 Bil. This is very close to 40 Bil (CIM distr). It may be possible that the true float is somewhere close to 40 Bil. That of course is before the 75 B was given in the recent purchase of 500,000 acres. Now the legitimate float is around 115B. We know that UC must own 51% so the O/S is probably double. So what does this say for our shares of CIM. Well if the float is 115B and UC has said that 40 Bil are going to the shareholders, you may get 1 share of CIM for every 3 shares of CMKX. So if you have 30 mil CMKX, you may get about 10 mil of CIM. I know the ratio of .028 has been floating around but that represents a ridiculous O/S of 1.4 T. So now we have a large number of shares of CIM. This is a good thing because I think CIM will then go public with its 40 bil shares on a major exchange. The springboard for going public is going to be valuation assessed from diamond finds. I truely believe there is more to Caroline than we think. The company has not said word one about the results of Caroline. If nothing of value was found, I think the company would have said hey we drilled and didn't find anything in this area and are moving on - end of story. The shareholders with half a brain would have said fine, we have 1.9 million acres more so go drill somewhere else. But the company has purposefully withheld the information. Also remember the un-substantiated reports that the talk in the bars and such around the area is that the "motherload" was found. Now let's say that Caroline has yielded an assessed value similar to the Debeers value. With 40 bil CIM shares now public, a good find may support a share price ($3) to qualify for a major exchange (the million millionaires). Now the share structure is straightened out. Since CMKX goes away, the MM don't cover anything - what a deal for them! The off-shore hedge funds and other criminals get the short end of the stick - aw too bad! Now we also know that UCAD is co-sponsoring the Las Vegas party with CMKX. So there is probably more to our involvement with UCAD than just a dividend. Perhaps the new entity that goes public will be more than just CIM but some sort of conglomeration of those companies we have been dealing with to form the mega-diamond empire. Now this will probably affect our overall share of CIM (or the newly formed company) but I think we will still be verrrrrry happy at this point. So when is the timeframe for this to happen. Hard to say but again we have some clues. Obviously the biggest is the Las Vegas party. Assuming that UC doesn't want a hotel full of P.O'd shareholders because the share price is .0002-4, something must be underway prior to this. UC has made several references to Labor Day weekend. This is substantiated by several fellow shareholders who have talked to him at the races. We may start to see the master plan unfold sometime at or after next weekend.

This of course is all IMHO. I am not a stock expert and certainly am limited to the information I have gleaned from hearing from all of you and those who have met the Casavants. I just believe that something good is going to happen. If all we get is a few dividends out of the deal - hey that's not so bad either.

Fokker


 


Posted by HarryHar on :
 
Hey thanks for keeping up with posting good information to read while we wait. That's to all of you that have held up the fort here in the last week. Without you guys, it'd be a ghosttown here...I think I speak for a lot of lurkers...thanks guys!
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
If you think the national anthem of Saskatchewan is "Viva Las Vegas", you may be a CMKX redneck.
 
Posted by Brad on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
Has anyone noticed that the forum at www.cmkx.net is active now?


When has it not been active dwman? I've been a member there since early July and post there regularly.

 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Sorry, brad. I confused it with the official site I guess.
 
Posted by CJEWingnut on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
If you think the national anthem of Saskatchewan is "Viva Las Vegas", you may be a CMKX redneck.

Hey,
It couldn't be a "national" anthem because we're not a nation...just a province... )

The diamond play up here is gonna be huge...many REAL, LEGIT diamond companies are producing some interesting finds (Shore Gold, Kensington, Cogema, etc..

Don't get me wrong...I've made my profits off of CMKX and I'm still riding my free shares but, not counting anymore chickens just yet!! Things will happen irregardless of Urban.

My 2 cents...
 


Posted by legal1082 on :
 
Did anybody buy today? If so, at .0002 or .0003?
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CJEWingnut:
Hey,
It couldn't be a "national" anthem because we're not a nation...just a province... )

The diamond play up here is gonna be huge...many REAL, LEGIT diamond companies are producing some interesting finds (Shore Gold, Kensington, Cogema, etc..

Don't get me wrong...I've made my profits off of CMKX and I'm still riding my free shares but, not counting anymore chickens just yet!! Things will happen irregardless of Urban.

My 2 cents...



CJ, do you Sasks not get the concept of "redneck"? LOL


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i've been trying to get to the pr's from 2003 when UC first tryed the CIM or CMI thing, giveing out shares of one or the other. I know there was a link to a list of these but can't find that either. yahoo, msn, pink sheets, none go back that far. does anyone know which it was that was given out back then? was it CIM or CMI? and as they were reporting then wasn't the o/s at the time 500 million? they gave a 1 for 1 share dividend. it was early 2003 i think.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Was this the one bill?
http://questfordiamonds.com/research/topic4.htm
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Had to repost this one from another board
to break the monotony:

"I think there is gonna be a HUGE PR released this weekend concerning the new CMKXTreme Sippy Cup.
Available to all shareholders for only $19.95."

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited August 31, 2004).]
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
that was it noah...thanks.....it was CMI not CIM sept 2003. it never went public either. i mentioned the cmkxz saga to the owner of the company i run today. the differance in the dividend split and the amounts of shares it works out to. that was around noon, i think he is still at his desk laughing. 4 yrs ago he made over 1 million in the market in 1 yr. he does very well with his stocks but then he has money in his account to move around
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i think thats about the only kind of pr we will be getting from UC for a while too noah. just a hunch but i don't think any news will be forth coming for at least a month
 
Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Sippy cup! That's a hoot. Thanks, noah, I needed that. By the way...

You might be a CMKX redneck if you get your hot stock tips at a freakin' drag race.

quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
Had to repost this one from another board
to break the monotony:

"I think there is gonna be a HUGE PR released this weekend concerning the new CMKXTreme Sippy Cup.
Available to all shareholders for only $19.95."

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited August 31, 2004).]



 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
Sippy cup! That's a hoot. Thanks, noah, I needed that. By the way...

You might be a CMKX redneck if you get your hot stock tips at a freakin' drag race.



Win, I resemble that remark. At least this weekend I do.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
There's that "spinoff" word again from Schwab:

Spinoff
A new, independent company created through selling or distributing new shares for an existing part of another company.

********************************************


FYI: Schwab on the dividends:
Dear xxxxx:

Thank you for your patience while we researched your inquiry.

I have spoken with our Reorganization department and the only information we
have received so far is CMKX will be spinning off Casavant International
Mining. Not terms or rate of spin-off have been released to date. There may
be another company, but we have not receive this information. The spin-off is
expected to take place in late September early October.

I regret I do not have additional information, however, you are welcome to
contact us at a later date to see if more information has become available.

Please contact us if you have any further questions or concerns. Thank you for
using Schwab's Email Customer Service.

Sincerely,

Vanessa Castillo
Investment Specialist

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Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
NOAH
Have not heard from you on the race day to attend ? Leaning toward 9/5 as most important. May not be possible to attend. In any case please review my questions for CT radio.
VAN
 
Posted by glassman on :
 

2004-08-31 18:13:05


U.S. Canadian Minerals' Management Team Completes Successful Ecuador Site Visit


***

Business Editors LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--UCAD-- U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. (OTCBB: UCAD) announced today that members of the company's management team have recently returned from Ecuador, where several of its operational employees are working diligently to increase the efficiency of the current operation. During this trip, management met with local attorneys to resolve all outstanding regulatory and tax matters and bring the facility's reporting system up to UCAD approved standards. In addition, management reached an agreement with Nevada Minerals' Ecuadorian subsidiary for joint operations in the Yellow River region. Rendal Williams, UCAD's CEO, stated, "We are extremely excited to have confirmation that all governmental and regulatory issues have been resolved and that the company is in good standing." Williams continued, "I am confident in the expertise of our joint operational partner here in Ecuador." Alejandro Diaz Silvia, geologist and operations manager for Nevada Minerals' Ecuadorian subsidiary, commented, "This further enhances the company's ability to increase its extraction and processing of gold ore from the Yellow River mine." Further details relative to this project will be forthcoming in future press releases and at http://www.uscanadian.com/ and http://www.yellowriver.com/. Safe Harbor Stat
 


Posted by shadow on :
 
Well folks,

I might just drop dead as I type.

I was trying to call around to push the
NRS-78...

I called the number listed under Ameritrade
for CMKX (CMKM)... Got this very irate
gentleman named rob. He gets all kinds
of calls for CMKX. He asked that we
quit giving him calls. I explained that his
number is under CMKX in Ameritrade... He
says he knows... he keeps asking them
to change it and they will not...

next Step was to call the 1St Global Tranfer
agents... they are currently moving offices
and are not answering the phones. (but got
a message though)

I then called the toll free number for Melvin. I did not get anyone but left
my name and number. Then ten minutes later
I get a call back and it is Melvin. I did
not ask him any questions pertaining to
any PR's. But did ask when I could come
take a look at the books... He told me
that they did not have an office in Las Vegas that he knew of. He suggested that
I call the tranfer Agent. He said the only office he knew of was at Mr Casavant's home.


I explained my interpretation of the Nevada
State Law. I briefly outlined that according
to the state regulation that there was some
specific information I read as being entitled to. He suggested that I call the
Stock transfer agent.

Once the Stock Transfer agent is in their
new office spaces I will call and see
if they have the information. If not I
said I would call him back.


Take Care

shad

 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
I MUST SAY
That does not sound good.
VAN
 
Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
This is a link to a great post about the DTC and naked shorting. It is too long to post but well worth reading. It is 5 days old and I am surprised I hadn't seen it before.
http://www.investors.com/breakingnews.asp?journalid=22803436&brk=1

IMO-Debi
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
"He told me
that they did not have an office in Las Vegas that he knew of."
-------------------------
WTF! The office is out of Casavants home? That doesn't sound yippee at all!
Where is all this going...? I see ALOT of promo stuff to BUY, but nothing about diamonds or even searching, drilling or mining for the blasted rocks. This stock is really pissing me off.
 
Posted by secman on :
 
CIM is NOT GOING TO BE A NEW IPO for CMKX:


as alot of spec-o-lation is saying nowadays, why go to all the trouble of a marketing campaign with a funny car, speed truck, drag bike and prepaid credit cards?

Wouldn't it have been easier/more cost effective to start the marketing after the final joint venturing has been put in place??

Any thoughts....


 


Posted by dwman on :
 
I noticed VRA was among the companies listed above. I had that and lost money on it.

Debi, I didn't see cmkx in the list. Did I miss it? Also, what are your feelings about shadow's post?
Don
 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Qusetion:

Now that we got our CIM dividend today, lets say for ****s and giggles, CMKX goes to a dollar tomorrow and i sell all 1.2m of my shares.

Will my CIM shares still be calculated using my freshly sold 1.2m shares?
 


Posted by secman on :
 
August 31, 2004 05:13 PM US Central Timezone

U.S. Canadian Minerals' Management Team Completes Successful Ecuador Site Visit

LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 31, 2004--U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. (OTCBB: UCAD) announced today that members of the company's management team have recently returned from Ecuador, where several of its operational employees are working diligently to increase the efficiency of the current operation. During this trip, management met with local attorneys to resolve all outstanding regulatory and tax matters and bring the facility's reporting system up to UCAD approved standards. In addition, management reached an agreement with Nevada Minerals' Ecuadorian subsidiary for joint operations in the Yellow River region.


Rendal Williams, UCAD's CEO, stated, "We are extremely excited to have confirmation that all governmental and regulatory issues have been resolved and that the company is in good standing." Williams continued, "I am confident in the expertise of our joint operational partner here in Ecuador." Alejandro Diaz Silvia, geologist and operations manager for Nevada Minerals' Ecuadorian subsidiary, commented, "This further enhances the company's ability to increase its extraction and processing of gold ore from the Yellow River mine."

Further details relative to this project will be forthcoming in future press releases and at http://www.uscanadian.com/ and http://www.yellowriver.com/.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

Statements contained in this document which are not historical fact are forward-looking statements based upon management's current expectations that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in or implied by forward-looking statements.

this prove that ucad and cmkx are NOT merging due to the 25-30 so call quiet period.....now what...it's only CIM left in my opinion.....
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Do you have a chart that shows that secman? Just teasing. I think you may be right.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
This is not new stuff but just a reminder to not get hopes too high. However, it may fly this time because we have Roger.

In 2003, the company moved from the OTC BB to the pink sheets and changed its symbol to CMKM. During 2003 Casavant Mining Kimberlite International acquired a company that was in the process of mining zinc. However, in order to maintain their focus on diamond exploration Casavant Mining Kimberlite International decided to "spinoff" the zinc division as a separate company. Casavant International Mining was formed and each shareholder of Casavant Mining Kimberlite International was issued a share of the new company for each share of Casavant Mining Kimberlite International that they owned. Originally, the spinoff company was going to merge with Mirador, Inc., a publicly traded company, to make the newly issued shares tradeable. However, plans for the merger have been put on hold indefinitely
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by shadow:
Well folks,

I might just drop dead as I type.

I was trying to call around to push the
NRS-78...

I called the number listed under Ameritrade
for CMKX (CMKM)... Got this very irate
gentleman named rob. He gets all kinds
of calls for CMKX. He asked that we
quit giving him calls. I explained that his
number is under CMKX in Ameritrade... He
says he knows... he keeps asking

shad



Shadow, every corportation in the State of Nevada, has to have at least a resident agent. CMKM's resident agent is:

Thomas C. Cook
Firm: Law Offices of Thomas C. Cook

Address: 4955 S. Durango Dr., Suite 214
Las Vegas, NV 89113-4436


Phone: (702) 952-8519

Fax: (702) 952-8521

E-mail: Contact Us


I'm sure he will be able to help you if you want to pursue the information.


 


Posted by Binky on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dwman:
[B]
During 2003 Casavant Mining Kimberlite International acquired a company that was in the process of mining zinc.
============================================
I believe Casavant aquired zinc claims at George Lake, not a zinc mining company. i will try and find some info on this and post.


 
Posted by Binky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Binky:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dwman:
[B]
During 2003 Casavant Mining Kimberlite International acquired a company that was in the process of mining zinc.
============================================
I believe Casavant aquired zinc claims at George Lake, not a zinc mining company. i will try and find some info on this and post.

LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 19, 2003

Casavant Mining Kimberlite International (Pink Sheets:CMKM) The Board of Directors have approved the spin-out of the corporate zinc deposits at George Lake, Saskatchewan, its wholly owned subsidiary Casavant Mining International, Inc. (CMI).

Shareholders of record who hold CMKM stock through close of market on Friday, September 19, 2003 will receive one share of CMI stock for every share of CMKM stock that they hold through this date. The payable date for the CMI shares of stock will be Friday, October 3, 2003. CMKM shareholders of record at the time will receive one share in CMI stock for every share they hold and will continue to own their CMKM stock. This spin-out will enable CMKM to concentrate on diamond exploration and development at Fort a la Corne, Saskatchewan.

Urban Casavant shall remain as president during the interim until a suitable candidate has been selected to operate the zinc mining and exploration company. CMI has plans to launch a substantial drilling and exploration program at George Lake which is expected to start early 2004. At this time the zinc claims will remain an asset of the Company. CMI reserves the right to option the George Lake Claims out to develop the property as the location is favorable for mining and within approx. 60 miles of an existing smeltering plant.

Casavant Mining Zinc Claims Overview

The Company also has zinc claims that include the original George Lake zinc deposit (also known as Brakewell Lake). The George Lake area has had numerous diamond drilling, airborne electro magnetic surveying, geological, magnetometor, surficial geology and soil sample surveys conducted on these claims, from the late 1960's, to the early 1990's, after diamond drilling was completed in 1969 to 1970, an ore reserve calculation was released and recorded on Saskatchewan mineral deposit index #0663 of the Saskatchewan industry and resources website. The ore reserve was stated and estimated to be 5,000,000 tons of low grade reserves at 1% to 2.65% and 2,900,000 tons high grade reserves at 2% to 3.67%.

This information was taken from a third party from a mineral property report from the Saskatchewan industry resources website, therefore, it cannot be guaranteed that this information is, in fact, accurate and can be accessed by going to www.ir.gov.sk.ca (click) department data bases, (click) mineral resource data bases, (click) Saskatchewan mineral deposit index, (click) search the mineral deposit index, (enter) 0663 in smdi field and (enter) George Lake in location field and (press) submit. (http://www.ir.gov.sk.ca/dbsearch/MinDepositQuery/Default.asp?ID=0663)

There is no guarantee that drilling or further exploration will produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the company.


 


Posted by Binky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Binky:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dwman:
[B]
During 2003 Casavant Mining Kimberlite International acquired a company that was in the process of mining zinc.
============================================
I believe Casavant aquired zinc claims at George Lake, not a zinc mining company. i will try and find some info on this and post.

Here is some info from last year from the RB board. IMO, Arete posts honest and well researched DD.

By: arete
22 Aug 2003, 08:28 PM EDT
Msg. 6070 of 516476
Jump to msg. #
There is no zinc mine at Geroge Lake. I checked out Sask mining/mineral charts and there is one place at George Lake that has zinc deposits. I talked to the CEO of the current owner of those 3 claims and he faxed me technical data.

Those claims cover raw land that has been surveyed and drilled and yes there are zinc deposits down there. But there are no viable roads leading to the property thus everything has to be flown in to George Lake and then treked out to the property on trails. It will take millions to start a mining operation as well as several years.

By: arete
26 Aug 2003, 10:49 AM EDT
Msg. 6116 of 516478
Jump to msg. #
It seems to me the latest PR says 2 things.
1- all holding CMKM shares by 9/12 will receive a 100% payout on 9/29 in the 2/1 forward split.
2-all holding CMKM shares by 9/19 will receive a 100% payout on 10/23 of CMI shares (Zinc dividend)

Doesn't this amount to a 200% increase in current holdings?
100 shares now will increase to 300 by 10/3. We can call these the "Weimar Republic" shares. The value hasn't incresed, but the shares would have tripled.

Interesting background info:

1-Petro Plus (UCs old company) ended trading on 1/14/99 with Reverse split and a name change to
2-Northern Star Resources Inc.
Highest pps= 1/16/99 @ .13
Lowest pps on 9/14/99 @ .01.
and Another reverse split and name change on 3/9/00 to
3- Odaat Inc.
Highest pps= 3/27/00 @ .95
Lowest pps= 12/6/02 @ .01
Current pps= .02
Until recently Odaat Inc. held all 3 zinc claims at George Lake. It currently holds 2.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Binky,
The one claim that he/she is referring to was transferred from Odaat to Alberta Ltd. on January 6th 2003. Alberta Ltd is a Casavant owned company.

 
Posted by Binky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Binky,
The one claim that he/she is referring to was transferred from Odaat to Alberta Ltd. on January 6th 2003. Alberta Ltd is a Casavant owned company.

Thanks Upside......kind of brings to mind that Carter Family favorite, "Will the circle be unbroken" LOL

 


Posted by Upside on :
 
My daughter once had a pacifier that she always called a binky. Are we somehow related?
 
Posted by lanebro on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:

Win, I resemble that remark. At least this weekend I do.


You know what I find really ridiculous? A bunch of penny traders walking around at the drags with CMKX shirts on. What happened to race fans?
If you ain't there to "really" enjoy DRAG RACING, stay home. We have plenty enough fans to go around without you.
Need a party? Go to a bar.
Notice the stock ticker graphic on Arend's car? Don't you people get it yet? It's a Vegas GAME. All a game. No diamonds people. Unless that E-bait tryst gave him enough worms to become little tiny diamond miners! Oh, wait, that was his CFO that had the worm farm gig, wasn't it?


 


Posted by Binky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
My daughter once had a pacifier that she always called a binky. Are we somehow related?

The wife has told me a few times that I'm just a big sucker so who knows.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Lanebro,
Well, welcome aboard. The CMKX fans you see at the races are probably there to try to gain an audience with Mr. Casavant. When that fails, they wind up in the stands with their CMKX shirts on. Vegas game? I don't know. I'm not really a believer in this company but the rule of Vegas is "what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas". This company is going out of its way to advertise itself and darn near everyone in America knows about them. They're definitely not doing anything quietly.

[This message has been edited by Upside (edited September 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by lanebro on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Lanebro,
Well, welcome aboard. The CMKX fans you see at the races are probably there to try to gain an audience with Mr. Casavant. When that fails, they wind up in the stands with their CMKX shirts on. Vegas game? I don't know. I'm not really a believer in this company but the rule of Vegas is "what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas". This company is going out of its way to advertise itself and darn near everyone in America knows about them. They're definitely not doing anything quietly.

[This message has been edited by Upside (edited September 01, 2004).]


Word has it UC likes to hand out c-notes to his "buds" for dinner "on him" and what not. Better spent on the corporation, don't you think? It really smells of "tacky". I AM a race fan. I'm just checking him out, here and there. Scary what I've seen.

 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Agreed. Keep digging around, let us know what you find.
 
Posted by lanebro on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Agreed. Keep digging around, let us know what you find.

I really wonder if anyone here would listen. Seems there are completely biased opinions here, pro and con. I am just an observer who sees a "very strange" guy feeding his racing jones on the hard earned dollars of GOOD people like yourselves.
It really makes me ill every time I see this UC character acting like a legit businessman. Unlike other sponsors who really ARE such. He actually reminds me of that big spender at the craps table at 3am. A woman on each arm. LOL
He must have 50 people handing out his printed propoganda at the track. THAT alone must cost thousands! Sheer "in your face" cockiness.
I must admit though, he's brilliant. He's pulling it off nicely, for himself.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Todays law suit was a pretty good shot across the MM bow. Maybe the NSS will be settled without a law suit now.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lanebro:
You know what I find really ridiculous? A bunch of penny traders walking around at the drags with CMKX shirts on. What happened to race fans?
If you ain't there to "really" enjoy DRAG RACING, stay home. We have plenty enough fans to go around without you.
Need a party? Go to a bar.
Notice the stock ticker graphic on Arend's car? Don't you people get it yet? It's a Vegas GAME. All a game. No diamonds people. Unless that E-bait tryst gave him enough worms to become little tiny diamond miners! Oh, wait, that was his CFO that had the worm farm gig, wasn't it?



Well, just what we need another first time poster/basher come to save us all from the evil CMKX stock. Lanebro, if you hurry, I think you can catch rchaud98, I saw him going out the other door just a little while ago.


 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
Can I get the rights to this thread.I'm thinking of calling it the magic share theory.Somewhere in this thread I bet it tells where Hoffa is buried.I am just joking with you guys.I truly hope it does come out good for everyone.Just hang in there,one good dig reports all it will take.
 
Posted by shadow on :
 
Thank you Noah. I will do just that.

Hope to be able to call this evening
after work.


quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:

Shadow, every corportation in the State of Nevada, has to have at least a resident agent. CMKM's resident agent is:

Thomas C. Cook
Firm: Law Offices of Thomas C. Cook

Address: 4955 S. Durango Dr., Suite 214
Las Vegas, NV 89113-4436


Phone: (702) 952-8519

Fax: (702) 952-8521

E-mail: Contact Us


I'm sure he will be able to help you if you want to pursue the information.



 


Posted by secman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:

Well, just what we need another first time poster/basher come to save us all from the evil CMKX stock. Lanebro, if you hurry, I think you can catch rchaud98, I saw him going out the other door just a little while ago.


Lanebro keep up the good work ignore noahltl aja James Brewer he is one of those nimrods that shows up with a cmkx shirt and credit card and sippy cup

 


Posted by StonedPigeon on :
 
Meanwhile back on the farm Grandpa ---having
found a diamond while watering his tomatoes
is convinced to sell his farm to Lanebro the
local snake-oil salesman.

Tune in nexted week when lanebro says:

But grandpa what about the o/s

-----------------------------------------
The Saga Continues
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i just don't understand bashers that attack ppl. i'm a stockholder that doesn't see anything good happening anymore, not without a huge r/s but to belittle ppl that still hold hope that this will end they way they first hoped is foolish & childish. hide in a computer & call ppl names. it can't be to protect newbies because everything thats bad gets talked about over & over without name calling
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by secman:
Lanebro keep up the good work ignore noahltl aja James Brewer he is one of those nimrods that shows up with a cmkx shirt and credit card and sippy cup

And secman is one of those bashers who uses charts to bash when he doesn't know an ordinate from an abscissa.

Lanebro...everything you have said has been designed to deride us and make you look like you are the last word on stock trading. Get a life. You probably no less than secman. You could learn alot from Noah.


 


Posted by legal1082 on :
 
Hey guys, a friend sent me this email and it was pretty good. I hope it's not a repeat.


CMKX on Wall Street....
« Thread started on: Aug 25th, 2004, 02:27am »
The reason we will be known on Wall Street is becuase IMO we are in the works of a Roll-up IPO transaction....

Basically a Roll-up IPO is used to create a national presence in industries that were dominated by small, independent companies and it is done by mergers and acquisitions. It is a special class of initial public equity offering where multiple small business entities are consolidated into a single publicly traded.

The economies of scale created by merging these companies would allow the new company to initiate an advertising campaign that would attract many new investors and create the Brand awareness in competition with Debeers...

Step 1....To identify the right industry...
The most effective roll-ups are those in high-growth markets that are fragmented, which contain many competitors and few market leaders.

Step 2...Identifying the founding companies...
This requires a tremendous understanding of how the particular industry operates and what value may be added by combining the Founding Companies.

Step 3...Creating interest....
Most important...Often the promoters of the deal approach the principals of the Founding Companies and potential investors/underwriters simultaneously. Mass advertising...

Step 4...The Deal....
Roll-up transactions traditionally were private ventures, either through the use of venture capital groups or by offering limited partnership units in the newly formed entity. Today more roll-up transactions are completed with an initial public offering, with the option of private capital to fund the cost of "going public."


Step 5...6 and 7.... This is where CMKX is right now..... PATIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Acquisition Program

Once the Founding Companies agree in principal to the negotiated terms, a letter of intent is entered into to acquire each Founding Company, which outlines: (i) the basic economic terms of the acquisition, (ii) the employment and incentive compensation arrangements for the principals of the Founding Companies and (iii) the conditions to proceeding through the various stages, including due diligence and execution of definitive agreements.

Definitive Acquisition Agreements

After letters of intent have been entered into with all Founding Companies, the Holding Company will negotiate and enter into definitive acquisition agreements, which will include (i) customary representations and warranties on the part of the controlling shareholders or members regarding the business and financial condition of the Founding Companies; (ii) list various conditions precedent to closing on the part of the Holding Company, including (A) the absence of material adverse changes in the business or financial condition of the Founding Companies; and (B) the successful completion of the IPO; and (iii) list various conditions precedent to closing on the part of the Founding Companies, including among other things, the successful completion of the IPO at a per-share price not less than a specified amount.

Closing

The closing of the acquisition of the Founding Companies would occur contemporaneously with the closing of the IPO. All Founding Companies would have to be acquired for any to be acquired. However, the IPO raises enough funds and registers enough shares for future acquisitions as well.

We shall soon find out... my guess Sept 04th week...


Laterz.....


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
i have to say i haven't been to vegas, but i heard the stories about UC doing these things from reliable sources BEFORE the funny car.....
the funny car seemed to me to be the capper....
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
the funny car bothered me for a while till someone pointed out all the sponcers on the car, each paying to have their names there. it may be that the car doesn't cost as much as i was first thinking. i do wonder & am not sure is this car owned or are we just one of the payee's
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i don't know either....
but i do know that in NASCAR the bill is 10 million/year minimum.....
funny cars are a lot cheaper...my GUESS is 3 million a season total...
 
Posted by lanebro on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
the funny car bothered me for a while till someone pointed out all the sponcers on the car, each paying to have their names there. it may be that the car doesn't cost as much as i was first thinking. i do wonder & am not sure is this car owned or are we just one of the payee's

UC does not own the car Bill, he's merely the sponsor. On Arend's car, though, he is basically the only sponsor. Most cars have several, from major, to associate, and so forth. Each "spot" on the car costs varying amounts. Each owner chooses his own selling price. There are rumors, and I can't tell you what that full car sponsorship cost him, but ponder all the other things he sponsors too; motorcycles, trucks, full events. I'm pretty confident he's well exceeded 3M so far this year. Might be double that.
Word to the wise- there was one entire event this year that UC attempted to sponsor, and in the eleventh hour they returned his check. Seems the track owners could not substantiate his company's legitamacy, or lack thereof. Just no info. And, no, they were not being picky. When it comes to getting cold cash from a potential event sponsor, all they want are some cold facts. Makes ya wonder.

 


Posted by Tamie on :
 
well I hate to say it but with all this uncertainty circling this stock I do not feel secure holding any stocks in it. I am going to sell what I am holding today. As a business owner there are things you do and dont do and to me a corporate headquarters being casavants home is a definite no no. IMO. Just seems to me that we are financing his extra curricular activity at this point. If things were to change and they were to become fully reporting it would be different. but at this point they have no one to answer to.
 
Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lanebro:

Word to the wise- there was one entire event this year that UC attempted to sponsor, and in the eleventh hour they returned his check.

lanebro

Even though you're new here (or at least have a new screen name), I assume you realize that when you make a statement like this, it's your responsibility to the board to post a link to the story, for verification purposes.

Thanks.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
goldfinch
CMKX: Roll-UP mentioned, 12/4/02 PR about CMKI/Jui

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By: Daulphin
01 Sep 2004, 04:04 AM EDT
Msg. 75107 of 75186
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CMKX: Roll-UP mentioned, 12/4/02 PR about CMKI/Juina

4th paragraph down

Business Editors

LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Dec. 4, 2002

Casavant Mining Kimberlite International Inc. (OTCBB:CMKI) announced today a Letter of Intent to acquire Juina Mining Corp. (Pink Sheets:GEMM) a diamond mining company with working interests in producing diamond fields in Brazil.
www.juinamining.com

The Letter of Intent is subject to shareholders approval of both companies following an accelerated due diligence period. The transaction will be based on an exchange of shares at the closing prices of the two companies effective December 3, 2002 on a multiple formula to be determined. In addition, Casavant Mining Kimberlite International has agreed to provide project funding and to assist in debt reduction after audit. Notices to shareholders will be given shortly with a date of January 15, 2003 agreed among the parties for the shareholders meeting. The meeting will be held in Las Vegas, NV at a time and location to be set-forth in the Notice. CMKI intends on filing a proxy with the Securities and Exchange Commission for shareholder approval of the Letter of Intent and other corporate restructuring matters. Notices will be sent out this week.

The Juina claim is located approximately 550 km (342 miles) north of the City of Cuiaba by air charter or 724 km (450 miles) by road. With a population of about one million, Cuiaba is a major urban center in southern Mato Grosso, and is serviced with regular flights from Sao Paulo and Brasilia. Rio de Janeiro is about 1800 km (1,119 miles) southeast of Juina. The Juina claim is located within the Aripuana - Juina Kimberlite Province, the largest diamond producing area in Brazil. Kimberlites are the principal source of primary diamond deposits, and an occurrence of Kimberlite is shown on government geology maps to be in the vicinity of the boundary of Property 1000. Substantial alluvial diamond deposits have been identified by De Beers and others in the Juina region.

This is the first in many targeted acquisitions and ""roll-ups"" of existing diamond and other mineral resources companies. With a seasoned management team, high technology exploration methods that can better profile diamondiferous kimberlite pipes (both magnetic and non-magnetic), and on-line audit oversight of mining operations, Casavant Mining Kimberlite International is poised to take advantage of a consolidation of junior mining companies without losing focus on its core claims in Saskatchewan.

Urban Casavant, Chairman stated "we are a new breed of prospectors and miners. With a quantum leap in technology, both hardware and software, we have the necessary tools to quickly and cost effectively evaluate mineral claims. The bottom line is to find diamonds and other precious metals at minimum cost against the world market price. We can do that and our fellow junior mining company executives know that creating for us the perfect opportunity to capitalize on what we know for the benefit of our shareholders."

FORWARD LOOKING STATEMENTS

This Press Release contains "forward looking" statements as that term is defined by Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, (the "Securities Act") and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, (the "Exchange Act"). All statements that are included in this Press Release other than statements of historical fact are "forward looking" statements. Although Management believes that the expectations reflecting in these forward looking statements are reasonable. It can give no assurance that such expectations will prove to have been correct. Important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the expectations as disclosed herein, including without limitation, in conjunction with these forward looking statements contained in this Press Release.

COPYRIGHT 2002 Business Wire
COPYRIGHT 2002 Gale Group

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2002_Dec_4/ai_94853756



 


Posted by lanebro on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
lanebro

Even though you're new here (or at least have a new screen name), I assume you realize that when you make a statement like this, it's your responsibility to the board to post a link to the story, for verification purposes.

Thanks.


I'm really sorry, WIN, I cannot post a link to insider info. There is no real DD on the racing business.
Proof- There were certain poker chips they gave away with a certain city's name on them that never transpired into reason. Pit talk (among people in the biz for YEARS) gave us all the facts we needed. There are no secrets among this "family".
I DO have one those, I suppose I could post a pic. LOL. Worth hundreds on e-bay I'll bet.
Also, at that certain track, certain track officials told CMKX soldiers to immediately cease handing them out. That I saw myself.


 


Posted by Tamie on :
 
I would like to see that pic
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
lanebro, why don't you tell us how many times the funny car guys rebuild their engine each run? no, not weekend, per 1/4 mile?
and what's the standard parts cost on each 1/4 mile?

i know the top fuel dragsters rebuild after every run...are the funny cars the same?

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited September 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by Tamie on :
 
I think you can buy all the cmkx you want but you cant sell it....at least I havent been able to yet

[This message has been edited by Tamie (edited September 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
lanebro, why don't you tell us ...]

Heeeeere we go. It's gonna be one of thooooose days...

From zero to annoying in 4.6 seconds...

Hmmm, what was that? .0004???
 


Posted by lanebro on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
lanebro, why don't you tell us how many times the funny car guys rebuild their engine each run? no, not weekend, per 1/4 mile?
and what's the standard parts cost on each 1/4 mile?

They tear down and rebuild the engine after each and every 1/4 mile pass. Change broken or worn parts as needed. Conservative estimate of cost per pass, if all goes well- $5000. You can't shove enough hundred dollar bills down the blower in five seconds to equal that!


 


Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Hi Everyone,
Tamie, Of course you are free to sell, but make sure you aren't just getting spooked by the negative talk. If you will have more peace selling then do so-if you will be upset with yourself if this runs and you aren't in. Then don't. OR sell half. OR 3/4 to lessen your risk and still have a chance at a large gain. It is your decision. The tone on this board is definitely more negative than many others.

At .0003 the company is valued at $240 Million Dollars. I think that is very low considering the area we own our mineral rights in and that we have an aerial survey showing great potential for diamonds. If Roger Glenn felt comfortable taking CMKX and UC as clients and he is still with them that is good enough for me that they are legit. Roger Glenn apparently thought their office set up wherever it is, is sufficient for business and legal purposes. If Roger Glenn with his former ties to the SEC and background as an accountant with Deloitte; and spotless reputation feels that CMKX is legitimate enough for him to be associated with then I am not going to be worried about what someone posts that is unsubstantiated.

The mineral rights still belong to CMKX. I realize that there are questions that need to be answered. I also think that they will be. If CMKX is in a quiet period and they probably are -we should find out soon. One reason everything may be taking longer than we like is IF we have diamonds we probably would and should have them verified by outside sources before announcing them. Also, if we are going to have a buy out offer, any valuation we have for diamonds or other minerals found would need to be confirmed by outside sources for maximum impact and minimum litigation or other interference by those who have a vested interest in CMKX failing.
This is IMO-GLTA-Debi
Noah-I never saw that IPO mention in the 2002 PR. Good find.
 


Posted by lanebro on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
Heeeeere we go. It's gonna be one of thooooose days...

From zero to annoying in 4.6 seconds...

Hmmm, what was that? .0004???



Sorry, WIN, that would be them Top Fuel Dragsters that do 4.6's and better, Funny cars are still in the 4.8's for the most part.

 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Just thought I would repost an earlier post that some of you might have missed.

PROBABLE FACTS:

U Casavant and/or family control 51% or more of CMKX. Otherwise, they could not on their own and without prior approval of ALL shareholders, have increased authorized shares to 800 bil;

As major shareholder(s), UC and family could very well have also sold themselves shares or given options at or below the par value (.0001) in order to maintain control, and, said option purchases would not show up in day to day trading of CMKX stock;

Further, any shares held by UC and/or family could easily have been transferred to another family member (just look at the reverse side of any physical certificate you may own to see the transfre blanks), thereby retaining control in the family without UC owning any shares at all, and, said transfers would not show up in the day to day trading of CMKX stock;

Another method is to create a preferred stock as was done with UCAD which gave ultimate control to (I think it was Rendal Williams and I think it was the Pref'd A) over any and all of the common shareholders;

There is not and never was any naked shorting of CMKX stock (at least not in any great amount). It is most likely that shares were being sold out of the authorized to raise monies for various pet projects other than mining incl paying for Glenn, funny car and other sponsorships, credit cards, salaries, etc., and maybe a tiny bit of prospecting for diamonds;

Another 300 billion in authorized shares provides greater opportunities to sell a good many of those shares to the unsuspecting public and thereby raise more funds from the public;

Glenn & Co were hired to keep the above as legal as possible so as to protect insiders of CMKX. It is unlikely that CMKX will survive, but the insiders will go on if they do not slip up along the way;

Issued and outstanding shares (that includes insiders, etc.) are probably now well above 500 billion...which is another result of the increase in authorized shares to 800 billion, and,

If Melvin announced on paltalk the purchase of 2 drilling rigs, based upon his record, you don't know if it is true, you don't known how old or new the may be, you don't know if they are operable and you don't know if they will be put to use for CMKX or for some other venture.

Please remember I stated that the above are what I think are "probable facts". There is a evidence to back them up, all of which you have seen in the past.
---------------------------------------------

Tamie, smart move to sell. Hope you made money or at least did not lose much. I sold my last purchase of CMKX (bought at .0001) for .0003. Again, just look at the reverse side of any physical certificates you may own and you will see that it is very easy to privately transfer (sell) ownership to anyone else without said sale being indicated over the day to day trading.

It does appear that lanebro has race track information that is unavailable to anyone who is not directly involved with race track activities. Do not sell him short or refer to him as a basher when he is just trying to warn as others have warned. It is neither prudent nor bright!

PS: I never heard of a "quiet period" either
but suppose it's possible.

Bye y'all

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Wallace wrote: There is not and never was any naked shorting of CMKX stock (at least not in any great amount). It is most likely that shares were being sold out of the authorized to raise monies for various pet projects other than mining incl paying for Glenn, funny car and other sponsorships, credit cards, salaries, etc., and maybe a tiny bit of prospecting for diamonds;
_____________________________________________
The Naked Short in this stock has not been proven to exist but is far more likely than not. Your claim that it never was is as valid as your claim that you bought at .0001 on a day when all the retail trades were at .0003 and .0004. Making you a prevaricator or a basher. IMO-Debi


 


Posted by secman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:
Wallace wrote: There is not and never was any naked shorting of CMKX stock (at least not in any great amount). It is most likely that shares were being sold out of the authorized to raise monies for various pet projects other than mining incl paying for Glenn, funny car and other sponsorships, credit cards, salaries, etc., and maybe a tiny bit of prospecting for diamonds;
_____________________________________________
The Naked Short in this stock has not been proven to exist but is far more likely than not. Your claim that it never was is as valid as your claim that you bought at .0001 on a day when all the retail trades were at .0003 and .0004. Making you a prevaricator or a basher. IMO-Debi

He BOUGHT as in past tense... not very bright are you eh?
 


Posted by secman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tamie:
I think you can buy all the cmkx you want but you cant sell it....at least I havent been able to yet

[This message has been edited by Tamie (edited September 01, 2004).]


Tamie sorry but unless you set your limit at .0002 you aren't going to be able to sell anything anytime soon. Just wait till the share structure comes out and it hits .0001 and we all find out that all we've been doing is paying for UC's side projects.
 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lanebro:

Sorry, WIN, that would be them Top Fuel Dragsters that do 4.6's and better, Funny cars are still in the 4.8's for the most part.

Last time I was at a drag race (not counting Front St. in Philly at midnight) was in the 70's at Atco. Shirley Muldowney raced a jet engine-powered rail. I can't remember who won. Like I said, it was in the 70's.

Wow, now I'm thinking I'd like to go to one again. You know, people talk about "seeing" or "watching" a drag race. I find the bigger thrill in "hearing" the drag race. For anyone with a thirst for more power (Tim the Tool Man Taylor grunt here) there is nothing like the sound of those monsters!
 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Makes me kinda glad I invested in a race car company which hunts diamonds as a hobby.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by secman:
He BOUGHT as in past tense... not very bright are you eh?

Secman, you have already proven your stupidity in my opinion. You did it when you drug out that chart and then didn't know how to use it. WWJD had more knowledge when she was 5 years old than you do now,IMO.

[This message has been edited by dwman (edited September 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by secman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
Makes me kinda glad I invested in a race car company which hunts diamonds as a hobby.

In truth it looks like that is all this is.. a Drag racing team that on the side runs around looking for diamonds. As we STILL have no PR on carolyn both on the original samples and the latest samples. Instead time is waisted on visa cards, message board(still not up). ucad and all these companies to me are all under the same roof and look whats happeneding gemm and ucad. Welcome to the pinks
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Lesson 7: Bashers play on your lack of patience. You have held a stock for a while. You knew it will be a big stock someday, but the BASHER CAN GET TO YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE TIRED OF WAITING FOR YOUR GAIN. That's when the Basher is best. You are tired. You have forgotten the goal for the stock was to hold it for one year. The Basher is bothersome, so you dump it on a bad day. Some others also dump. Then you get mad for your loss and return to let everyone know how mad you are. Then you turn into a semi-Basher as well. THE BASHER HAS WON, AND GAINED A NEW ALLY - YOU!
http://messageboardfools.com/bashers.htm
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
Noah, i thought the plan was to take advantage of the dividends to force the NSS to cover...what happened to that?

 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
L2 update. JEFF the only one left at .0003

10 MM's lined up behind him at .0004

Volume low at 600 mil.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Noah, i thought the plan was to take advantage of the dividends to force the NSS to cover...what happened to that?

September 24, crunch day on dividend cover. I can wait.

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Take a look at what $.0003 buys you. CMKX ownership flow chart.

http://subpennyman.nventure.com/
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well the bashers may have a very bad way of saying it but the plain truth is there is nothing good about what is going on with cmkx. i do believe they are looking for diamonds, the other 4 companies are reporting companies and thus can not get away with what cmkx can and they have as much and more of a % of the claims then cmkx as part of ours was sold to ucad. a lawyer is not proof of anything no matter what his reputation. the total value of the claims will factor in the pps but when all is said or done the pps will be decided by the amount mined yearly. without word from the company saying differant according to the OTC post our o/s is either 800 billion or 1.6 trillion give or take a few million. they can not mine enough diamonds yearly and then sell them to give our pps any kind of increase. if they found a way to dig up enough diamonds selling that many would drive the market price to nothing. as for a merger..if a 500 billion a/s, a record a/s never seen before in the market isn't enough shares what is. there is no reason to raise it to 800 billion. maybe and this is a big maybe it was naked shorted and the total o/s & shorted shares equaled 800 billion as they couldn't let the pps rise enough to get ppl to sell uc covered them by raising the a/s and thus the o/s to 800 billion which still leaves everyone holding nothing. maybe something is in the works to make it right with the shareholders but that is yet to be seen
 
Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
September 24, crunch day on dividend cover. I can wait.

When (if) the right time comes, I hope we can start a new thread, just because I like the sound of:

CMKX VII ... U.C.'s REVENGE
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
When (if) the right time comes, I hope we can start a new thread, just because I like the sound of:

CMKX VII ... U.C.'s REVENGE



Good title Win.


 


Posted by GatorMan on :
 
OK, somewhat off topic but I have a question for all you out there who seem to understand all about naked shorting. If CMKX were to have a shareholder vote on some issue how would they determine who is eligible to vote? If the O/S were, say, 500b and the nake shorts was 1000b that would mean 1500b votes.

------------------
~,-,-< GatorMan
 


Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 

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I'm not sure I saw this before....... I have to believe this was brought up before....... Anyway, discovered this on another board:

Link:
http://www.edwardsangell.com
Follow Links..Areas of Practice>Precious Metals

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Posted by lanebro on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
Makes me kinda glad I invested in a race car company which hunts diamonds as a hobby.

WIN,you have a great attitude! If you could go racing again some day, you really would understand why UC goes to these lengths to get his drag racing high. It is absolutely AWESOME!
Hope your dream comes true. That goes for ALL of you traders, REALLY, I mean that! I'm just really suspicious I suppose.
I came here to learn more about this side of the coin. Been reading for a couple weeks now. Got an eyeful, that's for sure.


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
as it stands today to get to a o/s of 100 billion we need a 8/1 r/s. can anyone find a company...any company publicly traded with a pps of $1 and an o/s of 100 billion? even if they can prove the claims are worth 100 billion or more the pps will not go to $1 because thats the total value or 20 yrs of minings value not including the cost to mine which as is true of everything will be much higher in 20 yrs. a 8/1 r/s turn 1 million shares into 125,000.
 
Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
as it stands today to get to a o/s of 100 billion we need a 8/1 r/s. can anyone find a company...any company publicly traded with a pps of $1 and an o/s of 100 billion? even if they can prove the claims are worth 100 billion or more the pps will not go to $1 because thats the total value or 20 yrs of minings value not including the cost to mine which as is true of everything will be much higher in 20 yrs. a 8/1 r/s turn 1 million shares into 125,000.

I know UC has promised no R/S, but there are other ways of accomplishing the same thing. Such as a reverse merger into a shell where you get one share of the shell for each, say, 100 shares of CMKX. Or even as a dividend of a shell and not a merger and then an asset transfer to the shell.

I'm one of those who believe that a reduction in O/S is necessary and that at this O/S we will never see even .25. I think the smart move is to get this going as a viable, reporting company with the current O/S structure and only once the value is there do a R/S to get the share price high enough for NASDAQ (I hope not the American exchange as I think there is a per share charge to trade when the trade is over 5000 shares). This should help to keep the stock price from dropping on the R/S.

------------------
~,-,-< GatorMan
 


Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Hi Gatorman, I think that if the O/S is equal to the A/S you would be right. But I think it will be much smaller than most on this board think. I think we will end up with a huge increase in PPS from .0004 or even .0011 -even if the ultimate share structure includes a reverse merge to make a smaller number of shares. I am expecting good news in the near future. I won't be selling until we get all the news we are waiting for. Roger Glenn didn't go to Canada to see the scenery. Some business events took place -possibly a roll out IPO with various mining companies and/or sales of other mineral claims like gold, uranium or palladium. We could get news of a buy out offer or a cash dividend. Since I am of the opinion that this stock along with many others has been the victim of naked shorting I think Roger is part of the cure. A cash dividend or a buy out offer from a private company could be the plan. I can wait a long time if necessary to see what the outcome of this investment will bring, but I think it will be very soon. Many of my friends are just getting in this week so I am happy for the delay. I plan to buy some more this week before the weekend the 'quiet time' may be over. GLTA-IMO-Debi

 
Posted by GatorMan on :
 
Hello, WWJD. Don't get me wrong. I'm holding on to my 20m shares. But like most on this board I have no clue as to what is going on! So I'm just going to sit tight and enjoy the ride.

------------------
~,-,-< GatorMan
 


Posted by secman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GatorMan:
Hello, WWJD. Don't get me wrong. I'm holding on to my 20m shares. But like most on this board I have no clue as to what is going on! So I'm just going to sit tight and enjoy the ride.

The rides almost over last stop.. Sucker Street population... you
 


Posted by valves on :
 
what do you guys and gals think would happen if all the chatter just stopped.
hmmm
a pr or maybe just another leak. just a thought.

-ken
 


Posted by GatorMan on :
 
Thanks, secman. That really makes my day. Glad you've got everything figured out.

So, what are you investing in?

------------------
~,-,-< GatorMan

[This message has been edited by GatorMan (edited September 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 

I sent over 40 more dollars for CMKX shares I should be able to buy tomorrow !!!

Hey at .0002 thats 200k shares !!!

If it goes to .0001, Thats fine for the short-term as well, hehehe...

GO CMKX!
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Poor frustrated secman.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by secman:
The rides almost over last stop.. Sucker Street population... you


rchaud98, secman, whatever you are calling yourself today, the people at this board are not the same type you find over at Raging Bull or IHUB, or wherever you normally hang out. Your childish harangues have no effect on the longs, and even the newbies can see through your games. You come in with stupid remarks, calling me by name (which everyone here already knows). You bring no DD to back up your accusations and suggestions. Your intentions are obvious and no one here is falling for it, even if you do get support from other bashers, they are already known and discounted just as you are.


 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
"The rides almost over last stop.. Sucker Street population... you"

Thats okay SECMAN, because the stop after us is "Big floppy donky balls Avenue" Population... you and your family...

 


Posted by dwman on :
 
I can go back and look, but does anyone know off-hand when we are supposed to have the ucad shares in our accounts?
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
I can go back and look, but does anyone know off-hand when we are supposed to have the ucad shares in our accounts?


Sept 24 or 27 there seems to be some disagreement on the boards


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
diamondogg11
Administrator
Re: Has Urban ever misled us?
« Reply #10 on: Today at 12:39pm »

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Way too much is still unknown for me to know whether or not we have been mislead..

For me this is a constant reassessment of the facts..

and so far nothing IMO constitutes being "misled"..

but that is for each individual to weigh..

That is why (as unpopular as conman's post was the other day)..in one way..I can relate..

I don't expect any miracles by Oct. 31st..and I don't plan on selling shares on that date or any other particular date if I don't get the confirmation I am looking for..HOWEVER, for me the shareholder party..which is about two months away..is enough time for me to reassess the situation..and to know at least a little more regarding the direction of this stock/investment..

I personally think it would be a sign of mismanagement or the very least an uncaring for the perspectives of the shareholders if the Vegas party came and went and countless shareholders spent money on a publicized "party" without any real reason..

Again, this is only a small example of what I would reassess..but I am willing to give time for certain events to unfold (via PRs)..one being the results of the "big" meeting..and the other being the results of current drilling (drilling which is at least rumored to be connected to the new ariel survey)..

I am not in the red zone on my BS meter yet..but then again, everyone should have their own BS meters based on their own DD..

I repeat..this investment like any other..should be reassessed on a pretty regular basis..

this is what I have still to stand on (only a partial list):

1. A new TDEM ariel survey with hundreds of anomolies including oreo cookie targets-- which have not even begun to be exploited.

2. Roger Glenn still on board.

3. JV partners-- with the hope of collectively having the resources to exploit our new targets.

4. Dividends-- with the hope of more to come.

5. Unannounced results of the "big" meeting.

6. The yet to be explained real reason behind the Vegas party..

I will be reassessing each of these things in the coming weeks..

and I repeat..I don't at this time have enough information to be fair in my assessment..

Shouldn't be much longer before I can personally make at least an initial or partial one.

Good luck everyone..and patience still seems to be a factor here. diamondogg



 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
LANEBRO
A person(by own admission) of two weeks does not hold a position to make some strong statements you have. You are talking to people here with far more knowledge. I suggest continuing your education for another year or so. At that time maybe a question or two would be in order. We have lost some great posters from this site because of this type of confrontation.
Should you decide not to take this as a helpful offer I will add you to my little green book of bashers.
VAN
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Debi wrote:

The Naked Short in this stock has not been proven to exist but is far more likely than not. Your claim that it never was is as valid as your claim that you bought at .0001 on a day when all the retail trades were at .0003 and .0004. Making you a prevaricator or a basher. IMO-Debi
---------------------------------------------

Debi, I am damn well tired of your calling me a prevaricator, a basher or other things. Previously you also implied that I was a liar, that I did something illegal and that I am unethical. You have constantly attacked me and others personally without reason.

My claim that CMKX is not or was not naked shorted to any large amount is much more valid than any claim you have ever made about naked shorting. Just look at what has happened to the number of authorized shares having been increased to 800 billion. Only an idiot would believe that would be necessary under normal business circumstances.

As far as my buying CMKX shares at .0001 is concerned, I told you and others that I had a contact on Wall Street. If you remember that very day CMKX did trade at .0001 and quite a number of shares were traded at .0001 vs .0003/.0004 (including a sale of 5 mil shs at .0001). Please do not try to mislead readers of the thread. It just so happens that I was able to buy those physical shares privately from a WS friend who might have heard something about an increase in authorized to 800 billion (I do not know for sure). As I said in my previous post above (and you claim to have physical certificates of CMKX), all one has to do is sign the reverse of the physical certificate over to someone else. Suggest you look at your certificates before you and others call someone a liar! Obviously, you are not aware that ANYONE can trade shares privately and they do not have to show up in daily trading amounts, and Debe, THAT IS BECAUSE IT IS PRIVATE. For example, I could buy your worthless CMKX shares from you if I so desired, but I am not the least bit interested. Is the concept of a private sale of CMKX too difficult for you to comprehend? Tamie, says she might sell, so if she has physical certificates you can buy her's as well and load up on CMKX all the more...your loss.

As a matter of fact, you and Tamie could make a private contract...you buying (at .0003) and her selling (at .0003) with delivery in 1 month. There would be nothing to prevent her from buying at .0001 before the delivery date and delivering those shares to you providing she could get the physical certificates within that month's delivery date. That would also be a "short" sale and it would not appear in the regular day to day trading amounts.

GLTA-DD-IMO

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by secman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
LANEBRO
A person(by own admission) of two weeks does not hold a position to make some strong statements you have. You are talking to people here with far more knowledge. I suggest continuing your education for another year or so. At that time maybe a question or two would be in order. We have lost some great posters from this site because of this type of confrontation.
Should you decide not to take this as a helpful offer I will add you to my little green book of bashers.
VAN

Lanebro ignore him he's yet another pumper just like Jim Brewer who posts the only postive post from the "Hs urban mislead us" thread
http://cmkxdiamond.********s32.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1094057943


I am still long and still holding ALL my shares...
I am not saying that some wonderful 'Master Plan' is not unfolding behind the scenes...

But you need to read the PR's for CMKX, because you obviously read some OTHER company's PR's...!!

Use the link to the PR's in Canuck's newbie section.
They are full of missed commitments, postponements and cancellations.

Countless promises of drilling for more than a year before we actually drilled.

The release of the O/S and share structure after the split & spinout...LAST OCTOBER...!!

I could go on, but you apparently don't want to believe what you are reading in the PR's, so why would you believe me.

JMO/GLTA.
Tony.


 


Posted by secman on :
 
I'll pull a jim brewer:

on Today at 1:22pm, scribe wrote:Point #1 - the company stated the samples were 'diamondiferous'. Fact - they were. Who cares who PRs the results or the quality of the results.

The people who paid .0011 for their shares I bet care what the actual results were.. and the company still hasn't clarified the actual results. From what I understand from people in the diamond industry the term diamondiferous is a real stretch when talking about to bits of diamond dust...

on Today at 1:22pm, scribe wrote:Point #2 - A company can 'authorize' as many shares as they want while at the same time retiring 'issued and outstanding' shares. This is a fact.

That is true. The jury is out on this one for now. If the OS is much lower than most of us expect then you will be correct, if it is anywhere near the 483+billion shares or higher I will be correct.

on Today at 1:22pm, scribe wrote:Your take on these facts as being misleading is what I'm talking about. You think when you read 'diamondiferous' that it means the samples are drenched in diamonds, when in fact it means they found some diamonds (doesn't matter what size or quantity).

I never thought they were drenched in diamonds, but I did expect more than dust particles and for them to pick up the drill rigs and move on. I also expected to hear the specific results back regarding the findings. To exclude the results from the term "diamondiferous" when they know how little there actually were, allow the stock price to run on this news and never PR the actual findings IS misleading by it's very nature. Not lying but misleading.

on Today at 1:22pm, scribe wrote:Your perception when you read that the company is retiring shares is that either the 'authorized' -OR- 'issued' shares can't increase, and the fact is that they can. JMO.

Of course they can, and again they wouldn't be lying to do so.. but they would be misleading. Providing partial information is misleading, from how I see it there is no way around that. It doesn't even imply whether it is good or bad, just misleading. If a company were to retire shares(and PR this) and all the while issue 2 for every share retired but not PR the fact they are issuing it, you would not say they are misleading those reading the PR's? hmmm. Again, neither one of us know the share structure so we are both shooting from the hip here a bit, although it looks like we have a pretty good idea based on the dividend ratios.
 


Posted by secman on :
 
ahh well I'll pull one more James brewer:

misleading is:

telling us Carolyn was a new discovery when in fact it had been drilled by another company in 96 and abandoned in 2000.

Read the reports, Smeaton aka "Carolyn" is barren.

Apparently our new anomaly showed up on scale with the star and 140/41 pipes so we have good potential with this target.

We have to keep things in perspective. Shore Gold has been at Falc since 95 and are still 5-8 years from having a viable mine. The jury is still out on whether it will even be economical. IMO the overall FALC play hinges on the valuations Shore will be releasing around Christmas time. They will also need to improve their overall grade.

JMO and views...

Motherload my ass.. Carolyn is barren and has been for quite some time others have tried to mine that area from 95 to 2000 until everyone gave up.. Guess what CMKX tried it again and guess what they got 2 specs of dust thet cmkx will STILL not admit to. Perfect storm , naked shorts, Mt St Helens my ass.

 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Ever notice how all the worms come out after a storm?


 


Posted by secman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
Ever notice how all the worms come out after a storm?

Notice how maggots never leave the nest
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
SECMAN
You are already in the little green book.
VAN
PS Here is a question for you & Lanebro ( you can work together ) for the answer.
HOW MANY MINERAL CLAIMS ARE FILED IN CMKX NAME? A correct answer will be documented!

 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
VAN,

You are an owner of CMKX as well as it's predecessor(s). You have been burned with so-called dividends, spin offs, misinformation, etc. well before now with the same people associated with CMKX.

You also claimed to have been into stock trading for at least 5 years.

Why are you still in such a defensive position relative to CMKX when it is being run by the same people in the same way as they have operated in the past? Shouldn't your experience with them dictate otherwise?
 


Posted by secman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
VAN,

You are an owner of CMKX as well as it's predecessor(s). You have been burned with so-called dividends, spin offs, misinformation, etc. well before now with the same people associated with CMKX.

You also claimed to have been into stock trading for at least 5 years.

Why are you still in such a defensive position relative to CMKX when it is being run by the same people in the same way as they have operated in the past? Shouldn't your experience with them dictate otherwise?


Simple he's a paid Urban/Sterling lackey all the true players have left only silly bagholders are left defending this pos. White Urban is out running around in his new hopped up drag car.
 


Posted by skippy on :
 
secman, if all the "true players" are gone why aren't you with them? Why are you wasting your time on the little fish?
 
Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
Why don't you serious long and strongs who insist on engaging those mindless, misguided, meanspirited churls realise that if you simply ignored every one of their specious posts, they would in all likelyhood just leave quite unnoticed????
 
Posted by kevy0899 on :
 
Hi all. I don't post much but was hoping this email from ETRADE would help. The part I was most curious about was the reference to the 1 for 1 shares. Is that 1 GEMM for 1 CMKX? I apologize if these numbers are old news... Just a beginner here. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Thank you for your inquiry regarding the pending CMKX spin-offs. There are currently three spin offs taking place. The ex-date for the first transaction is 8/20/04. This is the date on which the seller, and not the buyer, of a stock will be entitled to a recently announced dividend/spin-off. It is indicated in newspaper listings with an "x". The shares from the spin-off are due to payout on 9/24/04. The terms of the spin off are 1 share for each 103950 shares held of CMKX. If you are due to receive the shares, you should see them appear in the first week of October.

The second spin off's ex-date is 8/31/04, with a pay date of 10/1/04. The terms of the spin off are .0256 shares for each 1 share held of CMKX. The third spin off's ex-date is 9/17/04, with a pay date of 10/3/04. The terms of the spin off is 1 share for each 1 share held of CMKX.

For additional information, you may contact CMKX's Investor Relations Department at 306-752-3755. Please let us know if you have any other questions or concerns. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Dawn ******
Monday-Friday 11a-8p PDT
916-858-5000 x5179
E*TRADE Securities Customer Service http://www.etrade.com

 


Posted by glassman on :
 
that would be a bad thing for GEMM holders if correct....
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well unless something happened i didn't hear about the gemm dividend is 95,502,027 with a possible 127,336,036 if they use the option thats 200 million possible total...so lets get this straight when ucad is paid the o/s is 800 billion by the time cim is paid it will be 1.6 trillion and then 2 days later the o/s is 200 million all over the course of what 10 days???... seriously folks i think more attention needs to be paid to my theory about aged opium found in the woods...lol

[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited September 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
WOW!!!! The best PR of the day is comprised of secman, wallace, justthisice. Something big must be very close around the corner. The "Top gun basher" are pulling out all stops. Correction...the MMs have run out of bashers and had to resort to the dregs.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by glassman:
quote:
that would be a bad thing for GEMM holders if correct....

Come on, how bad could it be? Minor dilution of 800 billion shares or so, no one would even notice.
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
Lol, Dman...

I thought the same thing too...

Wallace, SEC, glass, lol... This is bigger than the Jackson Five comming to town !

I am expecting a full assault by bashers this weekend... Considering what we have now

-John-
 


Posted by secman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
WOW!!!! The best PR of the day is comprised of secman, wallace, justthisice. Something big must be very close around the corner. The "Top gun basher" are pulling out all stops. Correction...the MMs have run out of bashers and had to resort to the dregs.

Wow it's only the first of sept. you trying to fill your pumper quota already? Geeze Urban must have you on a REAL short leash
lol
Genius post of the day goes to Tamie
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
Don't worry SEC, soon enough your MM bosses will be filling your "quota" with something...

All Bash and no play makes Secman a dull girl...


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
and gemm was up a penny almost today
i'm not knocking kevys post but somebody at scottrade had a bad fat thumb moment i think either that or they were in the woods too

[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited September 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by secman:
[B]Geeze Urban must have you on a REAL short leash lol.
QUOTE]

Yeah, sec. He does. But it is a diamond studded leash. By the way, "REAL" is the magic word. We're real. You're not.

[This message has been edited by dwman (edited September 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by secman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by secman:
[B]Geeze Urban must have you on a REAL short leash lol.
QUOTE]

Yeah, sec. He does. But it is a diamond studded leash. By the way, "REAL" is the magic word. We're real. You're not.

[This message has been edited by dwman (edited September 01, 2004).]


wow never knew you were into stuff like that.. you might want to check out qbid
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
LOL. oooooh. I like you sec.
 
Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
Hi All (just so old timers don't forget me and new comers know I exist).
---- been lurking in and out ---- holding tight to my 3.5 million shares (avg. 0.0001).
Hey byrd I am here now.....
 
Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Just got this from Ameritrade:

Thank you for contacting us today concerning CMKX.

For CMKX, the spin off rate will be .0000155:1 for restricted shares of US Canadian Minerals Inc. The record date is 8-20-04, payable 9-24-04. This means your CMKX buy trades needed to settle on or before 8-20 in order to receive the spin off shares.

The company will be spinning off shares of Casavant Int'l Mining on 10/1/04 at a rate of .0256, fractions being dropped. The record date is 8/31/04. This means your CMKX buy trades needed to settle on or before 8/31/04 in order to receive the spin off shares.

Ameritrade has not received any official information regarding the GEMM shares.
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
SECMAN & WALLACE
I don't believe I"m defensive. I would prefer to call it realistic.
1-I have $10k invested in pennys
2-That represents 3% of my equity portfolio
3-Because of CMKX I am aware of ECPN which I have made $10k in the last month
4-I have positions in all the Jv Partners
4a-NOTICE I have not metioned the paper dividends!!!
5-Last but not least CMKX with all it's problems provides me with these future possibilties:
1-Surrounding claims have produce large diamonds produced by the same volcanic activity of our claims.
2-We have hired legal counsel familiar with all aspects of the problems CMKX faces & has represented a number of jewlery enterprises.
3-Although I may be more closely related to the "Christian" posters in my approach, I am very much oriented to a strict discipline on my investments. Doesn't matter to me if CMKX bombs or not I still average about $7-900 a week trading within a very conservative profile.
You guys come in here and blast ALL approaches to EVERYTHING, which does a diserve to those trying to learn.
I suggest posting your opinion with much thought in a cyclical period most conducive to Newbie learning and cut the flame throwing.
Everyone must be comfortable in thier own investing.
All you lurkers and newbie jump right in here and express your opinion.
VAN

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 01, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by shadow on :
 

Van,

Can I answer that one?

The answer is 0, nil, nada, zero, flatline,
not, none, ziltch...

There is not a single mineral claim registered under CMKX, CMKM, CMKI, or
any other company that we know to be CMKX.
At least according to the Government Web
page which is public and shows all claims
in the area.

Another item that was brought up on the board
is that the claims have to be worked within
a period of time or the rights are lost.
(I believe I have that one right).


quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
SECMAN
You are already in the little green book.
VAN
PS Here is a question for you & Lanebro ( you can work together ) for the answer.
HOW MANY MINERAL CLAIMS ARE FILED IN CMKX NAME? A correct answer will be documented!


 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
SHADOW
Yes my research also, Makes to wonder how they can pull off this deal.
I sure was not referring to you on the last few posts and doubt "they" have done enoygh research to answer.
Another thought regarding your efforts, doubt that being 100% right can overcome legal fees and trouble ??
VAN
 
Posted by shadow on :
 
Noah,

I talked to Thomas Cook - He does not
represent CMKX...

He gave me a number to a Brian Devorak
(not sure if I have the spelling correct)
I have the number if anyone needs it.

Finally got ahold of Brian...


Bottom-line is that he has never had anyone
make this type of request. I can say that
he was not overly helpful either.

I asked for the information I am after...

He told me that the company was closed
for a scheduled Holiday and no one from
the company would be back for two weeks.
I would have to call during company business
hours when they were not on Holiday.

I then said, that I was sorry that I thought
that the company did not have an office in
Nevada. I thought the company office was
in Canada. He said it is... I said then
I have to go to Canada to get the information?

He said no that the books were with him...

I expressed that according to NRS-78
I only had to provide 5 days notice
from my understanding.

I asked to see the information as
outlined in NRS-78.

We did go through the Nevada State Regs... He was not
overly familiar with the regulation.

So we went through the regulation on-line...
He pointed out what I had originally posted...
before I saw the other area.

Bottom-line is that we went through the
area that I outlined. He asked if I owned
5%. We read the regulations together.
I pointed out the "or" and stated that
I read it as being a shareholder of record
for more than six months I am entitled
to see certain information.

I outlined that I didn't think he
was being very helpful to a sharholder
of the company.

Can't say it was the most pleasant conversation
I have ever had with someone.

We left our conversation with him asking
me if I would send an affidavid saying that
once I viewed whatever material that I would
not use that information in any way outside
of company (it wasn't policy, wishes, interests...
but something along those lines... basically
use this information in a way outside of the
what was in the best interests of the company.)

I said I would contact the Nevada State
SEC to determine what I did and did not
have to agree to...

He told me to send him the letter and
we would go from there.

I thanked him for his time.


quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:

Shadow, every corportation in the State of Nevada, has to have at least a resident agent. CMKM's resident agent is:

Thomas C. Cook
Firm: Law Offices of Thomas C. Cook

Address: 4955 S. Durango Dr., Suite 214
Las Vegas, NV 89113-4436


Phone: (702) 952-8519

Fax: (702) 952-8521

E-mail: Contact Us


I'm sure he will be able to help you if you want to pursue the information.



 


Posted by glassman on :
 
way to go shadow....you remind of another very astute investor i once knew
 
Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Bashers vs pumpers


What I see are bashers using unsubstantiated rumors.

1. Prove to us UC is using our OS to fund his hobbies. I want you to prove that statement.

Everything the bashers are saying is totally 100% unsubstantiated. UC could be a sincere businessman trying to hit it big.


Prove what you are saying if you can.


I think WWJD hit the nail on the head. Our lawyer thinks his legit. Should I trust Wallace whom I dont know or any other basher here or someone with an official stake.

1. The Canadian government recognizes us as legit, they have issued the permits for the surveys and for the drilling.
2. The SEC thinks we are legit. A letter written by the SEC addressing the concerns of investors said we were checked out in March 2004, and nothing illegal was discovered.
3. Our lawyer thinks we are legit.
4. Our partners, including a major player in UCAD , Cameco, thinks we are legit.


Who should I trust, these parties or the bashers on this board who claim inside info but wont even use their real name.
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Shadow,
Can you provide a link to that claim map page?

quote:
Van,
Can I answer that one?

The answer is 0, nil, nada, zero, flatline,
not, none, ziltch...

There is not a single mineral claim registered under CMKX, CMKM, CMKI, or
any other company that we know to be CMKX.
At least according to the Government Web
page which is public and shows all claims
in the area.

Another item that was brought up on the board
is that the claims have to be worked within
a period of time or the rights are lost.
(I believe I have that one right).




 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
Bashers vs pumpers


What I see are bashers using unsubstantiated rumors.

1. Prove to us UC is using our OS to fund his hobbies. I want you to prove that statement.

Everything the bashers are saying is totally 100% unsubstantiated. UC could be a sincere businessman trying to hit it big.


Prove what you are saying if you can.


I think WWJD hit the nail on the head. Our lawyer thinks his legit. Should I trust Wallace whom I dont know or any other basher here or someone with an official stake.

1. The Canadian government recognizes us as legit, they have issued the permits for the surveys and for the drilling.
2. The SEC thinks we are legit. A letter written by the SEC addressing the concerns of investors said we were checked out in March 2004, and nothing illegal was discovered.
3. Our lawyer thinks we are legit.
4. Our partners, including a major player in UCAD , Cameco, thinks we are legit.


Who should I trust, these parties or the bashers on this board who claim inside info but wont even use their real name.


Raider? CMKX on the side of the machine and yet you refuse to accept the fact that he is using company money to fund it?????
give me a break.....

there is a big difference between LEGAL and LEGIT raider and if this is your first penny stock then you are going to learn the difference.

that is why i came to this board and parked here. cuz there are a lot of rumors being passed off as DD....

this letter from the SEC...first i've heard of it. can you share that with us? PLEASE? i would like to see it....

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited September 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
RJR
Yes that covers it. While we wait some are digging,verifying,etc. All for the greater good.((hopefully)not the same as "Faith").
VAN
 
Posted by secman on :
 
Shadow

You are the man. Keep up the good work and let me know if there is anything you need from the rest of us to help out.
 


Posted by shadow on :
 
http://www .ir .gov .sk .ca/Default.aspx?DN=3572,3385,2936,Documents

They have downloadable files that
have all of the claims... and dates.

Also shows percentage...

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Shadow,
Can you provide a link to that claim map page?

[QUOTE]Van,
Can I answer that one?

The answer is 0, nil, nada, zero, flatline,
not, none, ziltch...

There is not a single mineral claim registered under CMKX, CMKM, CMKI, or
any other company that we know to be CMKX.
At least according to the Government Web
page which is public and shows all claims
in the area.

Another item that was brought up on the board
is that the claims have to be worked within
a period of time or the rights are lost.
(I believe I have that one right).


[/QUOTE]

[This message has been edited by shadow (edited September 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
VAN,

I wasn't aware that CMKX was going through any "cyclical period". To me, it has been the same old thing and accomplishes nothing but diverting attention to their stated business which is mining for diamonds.

As far as lurkers and newbies are concerned, I believe by reading ALL the posts, those that disagree with you are providing far more valuable information when it comes to securities trading and CMKX as opposed to "flame throwing". You see, whether you like it or not, some of us do see some possibilities in your favor but very few (for me only one). On the other hand, the are probabilities are greater that anyone currently owning CMKX shares will lose everything or almost everything they have put in as a so-called investment. That is what newbies, lurkers and anyone thinking of committing money to CMKX should be made aware of.

What you have done with other investments or penny stocks has nothing at all to do with CMKX. All the facts and opinions of experienced investors should be considered, not just those with vested interests and minimal experience.

It's somewhat like a hot stove. Some will listen to the caution and others will not. Still the proof is only there when you touch it...and that hurts. Therefore, the caution.
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Thanks shadow.
I downloaded this file in excel format and found some interesting things. Urban also owns a company called Saskatchewan Ltd. They have a load of claims on this list. Those could be ours but I can't imagine it's a good thing that they're not in CMKX's name. Also noticed that UCAD had no claims but Nevada Minerals had quite a few. Not drawing any conclusions here, just posting information.
 
Posted by shadow on :
 
Upside,

I have never been able to find any information
that shows that Urban owns Saskatchewan Ltd.
Of course, if you look at the earlier maps
and references - it shows sask ltd. I
just do not have anything tangible to link
him... beyond the company saying that they
have the rights.

If you have anything I would be interested.

I am trying to determine what we really do
own or have rights to...


---
Mr Devorak's number is 702-768-2960 if anyone wants to call him...
---

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Thanks shadow.
I downloaded this file in excel format and found some interesting things. Urban also owns a company called Saskatchewan Ltd. They have a load of claims on this list. Those could be ours but I can't imagine it's a good thing that they're not in CMKX's name. Also noticed that UCAD had no claims but Nevada Minerals had quite a few. Not drawing any conclusions here, just posting information.


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
2. The SEC thinks we are legit. A letter written by the SEC addressing the concerns of investors said we were checked out in March 2004, and nothing illegal was discovered.

Who should I trust, these parties or the bashers on this board who claim inside info but wont even use their real name.


does anybody have a copy of this letter??????
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
First, you show me proof UC is using OS to fund his hobbies while leaving shareholders high and dry.

You go first.
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
Raider, i don't know what you want....
the case has been laid out in front of you....
Debi has spent a lot of energy arguing that this was a naked short, and even she admits she did NOT expect the 483 billion number much less the 800 Billion number.

the reason i would like to see the letter is to authenticate it.....
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
RJR wrote (edited):

What I see are bashers using unsubstantiated rumors.

Everything the bashers are saying is totally 100% unsubstantiated.

I think WWJD hit the nail on the head. Our lawyer thinks his legit. Should I trust Wallace whom I dont know or any other basher here or someone with an official stake.
---------------------------------------------
Is it bashing to outline the truth and the facts? Based upon what I am seeing above, we cannot even say they own claims, right?

Is it a rumor or unsubstantiated that CMKX:

Has not provided financial information;
Withdrew from SEC filing;
Has found only 2 micro diamonds;
Has not released issued, outstanding and/or
holdings;
Did not inform anyone of the authorized
increase - even to this day.
That they did increase the authorized by
800 billion which further dilutes holdings;
That they have said sample results would be
forthcoming and have not;
That there are conflicts of interest involved
with various companies;
That there appear to be non-arm's length
transactions between companies;
That stupid statements have been made about
Mt.St.Helen's eruptions and other
outlandish and incorrect things;
That UC and/or CMKX is sponsoring things that
have nothing to do with the business of
mining for diamonds;
That - on and on and on and on?

Those things are not rumors. They are fact!

As for Glenn, what has he done for the shareholders to date? Oh yeah, it's top secret so it cannot be mentioned. Sure!!
Have another lollipop! That's BS. The least he could have done was caution UC about not releasing the 300 billion increase in authorized, instead of letting it come out in a negative manner. This is a guy who is supposed to know what it means to provide timely, accurate and proper information to shareholders. How many times do you have to be reminded that his responsibility is to whomever pays the bill? Whether you like it or not, that is UC and not you as a shareholder. That is where his loyalty resides.

Speaking of not releasing the information in a timely fashion and it being found out as it was, how many unsuspecting people were buying while other people who knew about the increase might have been selling...until it became common knowledge? How many of those buyers are right here following this thread?

The more I think about this the more I think it is outrageous that Glenn did not insist that the increase in authorized be immediately released upon filing in Nevada. He had to have known it was then available to a limited number of people until the word seeped out. That, in my opinion, is not Wall Street savvy or indicative of any securities expert and not the least bit knowledgeable. Trust that!!!

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Shadow,
It's not much but this is pulled from an old
CMKI filing:


On November 25, 2002 the Company agreed to acquire the Casavant Family Mineral Claims in certain kimberlite deposits located in the Province of Saskatchewan, Canada. The Mineral Claims were held in the name of five companies owned directly and/or beneficially by the Casavant Family and Morgain Minerals, Inc. (a company held by third parties with the claims under option). These companies include Commando Holdings, Ltd., Buckshot Holdings, Ltd., 101010307 Saskatchewan Ltd., 101012190 Saskatchewan Ltd., and 101027101 Saskatchewan Ltd. In addition, Fort a la Corne Diamond Fields, Inc. acted as the claims and exploration manager for the five companies above, as well as, the claims held by Morgain Minerals, Inc. Each of these companies have agreed to transfer 100% of the Mineral Claims to the Company in accordance with the Mineral Disposition Regulations of Saskatchewan, 1986.


 


Posted by will on :
 
WOW!
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
The question is if all of these claims were transferred to cMKI/M/X, why aren't they now showing up under their name?
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
[B] PS: I never heard of a "quiet period" either but suppose it's possible.

Bye y'all

[B]



Well Wally Wall St.,glad to help you out on this...
http://www.investorwords.com/4012/quiet_period.html
http://www.sec.gov/answers/quiet.htm



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
The main problem I see with the quiet period theory is that it takes place after a registration filing with the SEC. So far, no such filing has been made.
 
Posted by will on :
 
So ?

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
The main problem I see with the quiet period theory is that it takes place after a registration filing with the SEC. So far, no such filing has been made.


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
not only that:

Quiet Period
The term "quiet period," also referred to as the "waiting period," is not defined under the federal securities laws.

this would imply that a NEW company is being formed.....and a new IPO is being made


quiet period
The period starting when an issuer hires an underwriter and ending 25 days after the security begins trading, during which the issuer cannot comment publicly on the offering due to SEC rules.

what issuer did they hire?

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited September 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
So ?
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
not only that:
[b]
Quiet Period
The term "quiet period," also referred to as the "waiting period," is not defined under the federal securities laws.
[/B]


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
not only that:
[b]
Quiet Period
The term "quiet period," also referred to as the "waiting period," is not defined under the federal securities laws.
[/B]

HA HA HA.Then why is it on SEC.GOV/answers???HA HA HA.
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by will:
quote:
So ?

You looking for a fight tonight buddy?
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Up,

I would also like to look at those claims. Is there some way you could provide a link that I can just click on? As I have said before, I am not the best with computers.
Thanks!
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
highway,
I think that just means that the term is not recognized under Federal law. It's either called something else or there is no legal term for it but the quiet period itself is real.
 
Posted by will on :
 
How dare you doubt R Glenn. Anyone who can make 300B share deal with Howard Hughes and the MM's could surely make a secret deal with SEC. He will just explain to go public at the required time would be detrimental to the "master plan". I'm sure they would be understanding, and agree the filing can come after the quiet period. This guy is a magician, Urban is a genius, and Melvin is a horses ass. Now tell me how can a team like that be beat, buddy.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by will:
You looking for a fight tonight buddy?


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
HA HA HA.Then why is it on SEC.GOV/answers???HA HA HA.

hahahaha hiway i quoted that directly from the SEC<GOV answers..if you actually look there you will see it...

Quiet Period
The term "quiet period," also referred to as the "waiting period," is not defined under the federal securities laws. The quiet period extends from the time a company files a registration statement with the SEC until SEC staff declares the registration statement "effective." During this period, the federal securities laws limit what information a company and related parties can release to the public. Rule 134 of the Securities Act of 1933 discusses these limitations.


this is the page you posted the link to--do you actually read the links or do you just post what they tell you to?

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited September 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Wallace,
Try this:
www.ir.gov.sk.ca/Default.aspx?DN=3572,3385,2936,Documents

At the bottom of the page you can click on one of three ways to download it. I did it in Excel format and it popped up right away.
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by will:
quote:
How dare you doubt R Glenn. Anyone who can make 300B share deal with Howard Hughes and the MM's could surely make a secret deal with SEC. He will just explain to go public at the required time would be detrimental to the "master plan". I'm sure they would be understanding, and agree the filing can come after the quiet period. This guy is a magician, Urban is a genius, and Melvin is a horses ass. Now tell me how can a team like that be beat, buddy.

I've got a bad feeling that he might be working on another 800 billion share deal as we speak.
 


Posted by will on :
 
child, did you manage to enjoy any of the 38% gain on WKDH today, before it went back down ?

 
Posted by will on :
 
Does it really matter anymore? I read the last three or four pages of posts, and the best one was Tamie's. The post where she says she selling, until this becomes a reporting company.

O/S
Share structure
Sample results
Progress on becoming a reporting company
Evidence of NSS, PPS

She could have added those also.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by will:
I've got a bad feeling that he might be working on another 800 billion share deal as we speak.


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
I was tring to tell Wally Wall St. what a quiet prd. was.
I can see right thru you Glassman,I liked Upmans take better.HA HA HA.
Will, you're a trip.HA HA HA.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
800,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 shares what the hey it's just 1's and 0's on a chip right??? LOL
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
So much for a quiet period excuse. This as per Rule 134 of the Securities Act of 1933:

An issuer that is in registration should maintain communications with the public as long as the subject matter of the communications is limited to ordinary-course business and financial information, which may include the following:


advertisements concerning the issuer's products and services;

Exchange Act reports required to be filed with the Commission;

proxy statements, annual reports to security holders and dividend notices;

press announcements concerning business and financial developments;

answers to unsolicited telephone inquiries concerning business matters from securities analysts, financial analysts, security holders and participants in the communications field who have a legitimate interest in the issuer's affairs; and


security holders' meetings and responses to security holder inquiries relating to these matters.67
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
about sask ltd. i think that came up awhile ago..as 4 differant companies own differant %'s of the same claim it is held under one name. common sence says for there to be no real claims then 5 companies including shane resourses are in on the scam and since only cmkx is not reporting it would be highly unlikely for that to be true. remember all these companies have had prs about the same claims and canada is much stricter about pr's then the U.S.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Wait a minute now! Didn't that guy tell shadow man that the company was on holiday and couldn't be contacted. Could be! I bet it is! Damn! They are in a secret quiet time, can't be reached for two more weeks. This can be an unusal gag order from the SEC as part of the secret deal. I just wonder what Dr D, Zen, and Sterling could do with that little precious piece of information shadow man posted, on holiday for two weeks. I bet they could expand that to prove a quiet period plus getting funding for a rocketship to Mars where daimonds litter the surface.

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
So much for a quiet period excuse. This as per Rule 134 of the Securities Act of 1933:

An issuer that is in registration should maintain communications with the public as long as the subject matter of the communications is limited to ordinary-course business and financial information, which may include the following:


advertisements concerning the issuer's products and services;

Exchange Act reports required to be filed with the Commission;

proxy statements, annual reports to security holders and dividend notices;

press announcements concerning business and financial developments;

answers to unsolicited telephone inquiries concerning business matters from securities analysts, financial analysts, security holders and participants in the communications field who have a legitimate interest in the issuer's affairs; and


security holders' meetings and responses to security holder inquiries relating to these matters.67



 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Up,

Thanks for the link. Will give it a shot.

highwaychild,

Please refer to me as Wallace. I do not recall ever distorting your username and I ask that you do likewise with mine. Thank you.
 


Posted by will on :
 
Give what a shot?

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Up,

Thanks for the link. Will give it a shot.

highwaychild,

Please refer to me as Wallace. I do not recall ever distorting your username and I ask that you do likewise with mine. Thank you.



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by will:
quote:
They are in a secret quiet time, can't be reached for two more weeks. This can be an unusal gag order from the SEC as part of the secret deal. I just wonder what Dr D, Zen, and Sterling could do with that little precious piece of information shadow man posted

I don't know about Zen but I'm sure Sterling will come up with a double secret quiet time theory.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Will, how are you pal? LMAO at that one!!
Problem is you left out the Green Baron, the Fairy Princess, the Tooth Fairy and all the others. Really do have a sense of humor haven't you?

Don't know how long I will post on this thread, but I thought I might at least give it a brief shot.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
Makes no difference Wallace. Nothing is going to change. There will believers who stoke the coals, there will be nonbelievers who wet the coals. Then there is the company that says nothing officially, and when they do it as ambiguous as they can make it. There are those who clammer for forthright, direct, accurate information, and for that they're labeled bashers. There are those that will explain it away as a "master plan" and "genius", for that they're labeled pumpers. The company will say nothing, and every once in awhile let their pet slob, Melvin out there to say "Mt. St. Helens", or "you should see what I have on my desk". Just to keep people on their toes, and give them something to argue, specualte, and theorize about.
I'd love to make a ton of money on this deal, but sober, sane, common sense says it's a longshot. Now those that have $20,000+, and are still buying and advocating buying, well, they see it as an odds on favorite.
This whole thing is so idiotic, and polarized it has become entertainment, laughable entertainment. It's worth $300 to be entertained, but I doubt it would be as funny at $20,000+.

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Will, how are you pal? LMAO at that one!!
Really do have a sense of humor haven't you?
Don't know how long I will post on this thread, but I thought I might at least give it a brief shot.


 


Posted by secman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
hahahaha hiway i quoted that directly from the SEC<GOV answers..if you actually look there you will see it...

[b]

Quiet Period
The term "quiet period," also referred to as the "waiting period," is not defined under the federal securities laws. The quiet period extends from the time a company files a registration statement with the SEC until SEC staff declares the registration statement "effective." During this period, the federal securities laws limit what information a company and related parties can release to the public. Rule 134 of the Securities Act of 1933 discusses these limitations.


this is the page you posted the link to--do you actually read the links or do you just post what they tell you to?


[This message has been edited by glassman (edited September 01, 2004).][/B]


0wn3d
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
The question is if all of these claims were transferred to cMKI/M/X, why aren't they now showing up under their name?

YES This is something we need to know. At the time the were talking about 17-22 claims . Now they are speaking of 1.4m acres(certainly more claims) If the claims are not officially CMKM then we have nothing anyway.
VAN

 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
lanebro,

Very interested in any track information re CMKX you may provide. Would also like to see a photo of that chip...both sides.
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
secman,I usualy like to play on PR.I'm not out to hurt anybody.I'm just kickin' back, waiting for news.
Kick 'em when there up,kick 'em when their down...Gives 'em dirty laundry.
 
Posted by secman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
secman,I usualy like to play on PR.I'm not out to hurt anybody.I'm just kickin' back, waiting for news.
Kick 'em when there up,kick 'em when their down...Gives 'em dirty laundry.


sit down , shut up you got own3d
bye clown...
 


Posted by will on :
 
Van,
Whether the clains are "ours" ("we"), in your post. Do you think it will make any difference. If you brought proof they owned no claims, how long do you think it would take for you to be talked over, labeled a goof, a basher? It makes NO difference. The company says nothing, they depend on their BELIEVERS to promote them, and talk over any doubts and doubters.

quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
YES This is something we need to know. At the time the were talking about 17-22 claims . Now they are speaking of 1.4m acres(certainly more claims) If the claims are not officially CMKM then we have nothing anyway.
VAN


 


Posted by will on :
 
John, byrd, blueyedboy, what do you think Melvin had on his desk ? I have my thoughts, but I bet you have sicker, more perverted thoughts.


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by secman:

sit down , shut up you got own3d
bye clown...

Yea, I'm a clown.Life is alot funnier that way.
Oh yea you secman,...well I have something to say to you.Be kind,rewind.
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Now here's some real dd! Using a micrometer, I just measured the thickness of an old stock certificate we have. It was about .008" thick. If you took all 800 billion CMKX certificates (assuming the same .008" thickness) and piled them on top of one another, it would be a pile 101,010 MILES high, or, almost halfway to the moon. I think I should get the research of the night award for that one!
 
Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
WILL
I am one of those who believes if the facts are in, the business run with attention to detail, good management, etc. It won"t make any difference what is said. We really need to lock down some of these things like SHADOW is doing, claims,track intercompany ownership,etc.We need to use public document as much as possible. PR'S though better than rumor can be only part truthful. It is very apparent on this board how a PR can be interpreted many ways. I don't agree with Wallace about the ancillary companys, I have already almost gone to free shares on 25m CMKX by trading them. Thta is my hedge,but we still need the poop on CMKX.
UPSIDE-Your research neglected to mention wether there were any diamonds.
VAN

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by osubucks30 on :
 
Now that is some good DD UPSIDE!!
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Well, I think I will say good night. A few things to do before I kiss the cat goodnight and let the wife out to roam the neighborhood for a while. LOL I do appreciate the sensibilities demonstrated by the posters this evening.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted bu osubucks30
quote:
Now that is some good DD UPSIDE!!

Darn right it is bucks. I'm pretty proud of that one!

 


Posted by will on :
 
Van wrote:
"I am one of those who believes if the facts are in, the business run with attention to detail, good management, etc."

Van, if you believe in those things, then it is good that you are in a position of free shares. Attention to detail, good managemnet cannot be found in CMKX.
 


Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Hi Noah, Van, RaiderJR, Byrd, Everyone, I liked this post from RB-Debi

***How does a roll-up fit into the picture?
First, let's establish what a roll-up is. The definition from Investopedia states the following: In the context of venture capital, when a VC forces small companies to merge in order to reduce costs. If you see Urban as a venture capitalist, it's easy to see that he's been telegraphing every move he's made. That's why he said the plan is in the PR's.

Second, let's establish the basic goal of a roll-up. The easiest way to understand it, at least for me, is to envision a series of small, scattered and inefficient Mom and Pop grocery stores. Apply economies of scale to the equation and you can see the advantages of transforming those scattered stores into a chain of supertstores (this is the basic business model Walmart applies to retail and Home Depot applies to hardware). Just transfer the example to mining and you've got Urban's master plan. He saves money by centralizing and efficientizing every step of the process, that is, taking minerals from the ground to the store shelf and squeezing costs every step of the way.

So how do roll-ups fit into CMKX's future? First, they lie well within the boundaries of the business model I have speculated that Urban is following. Thus far Urban has steadfastly adhered to the model and I expect him to continue. Additionally, roll ups were specifically mentioned in the Dec. 4, 2002 PR (see A. below). Finally, Edwards and Angell have sponsored seminars regarding roll ups and Roger Glenn and staff are quite familiar with the process (see B. below).

So what's it mean? In my opinion, ("CMKX") is destined to become an exploration company with a financial arm and a "turn-key" project management arm. UCAD will provide the operating management, and Urban will provide the other necessary services (i.e., legal, marketing, cutting/polishing, etc.) that will complete a fully integrated marketing system. In other words, Urban will take diamonds and other minerals from the ground directly to the consumer.

At this point, I'm not sure which company will take the lead (i.e., CIM, UCAD, CMKX, etc.) but the economies of scale and synergy inherent in this combination make it a foregone conclusion. While the exact structure remains a bit nebulous, the inevitable march toward that goal is undeniably relentless. The future will be very bright for those with the foresight to see beyond the tip of their nose.

Good Luck


Notes:
A. Quote from the Dec. 4, 2002 PR http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=75107

This is the first in many targeted acquisitions and ""roll-ups"" of existing diamond and other mineral resources companies. With a seasoned management team, high technology exploration methods that can better profile diamondiferous kimberlite pipes (both magnetic and non-magnetic), and on-line audit oversight of mining operations, Casavant Mining Kimberlite International is poised to take advantage of a consolidation of junior mining companies without losing focus on its core claims in Saskatchewan.

B. Information regarding a seminar sponsored by Edwards & Angell http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=75111

Edwards & Angell were sponsors at the seminar, and the panel discussion covered the details of the best way to consolidate. The article is from 2/26/99

C. To learn more about roll ups and CMKX follow the links below: http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKX&read=518274

PS My thanks to Daulphin, Sugarpaw and prospector777 for providing some very interesting and informative links.

 


Posted by Damian on :
 
hi

Does anyone know cmkx pro board 32 's link....
 


Posted by lanebro on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
LANEBRO
A person(by own admission) of two weeks does not hold a position to make some strong statements you have. You are talking to people here with far more knowledge. I suggest continuing your education for another year or so. At that time maybe a question or two would be in order. We have lost some great posters from this site
because of this type of confrontation.
Should you decide not to take this as a helpful offer I will add you to my little green book of bashers.
VAN

NO sorry there buddy. I am new to THIS board! Not drag racing, nor stocks in general. I know a sponsor scammer when I see one. Using this GREAT billboard (the side of a racing car) for some underhanded prop, that bugs me. I hope YOUR dreams come true. Sorry I mis-spoke. Don't judge what you don't know, EITHER. I am an observer. You guys are here WAY too much. Trying to convince yourselves of something?
 


Posted by lanebro on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
SECMAN
You are already in the little green book.
VAN
PS Here is a question for you & Lanebro ( you can work together ) for the answer.
HOW MANY MINERAL CLAIMS ARE FILED IN CMKX NAME? A correct answer will be documented!

Hey, VAN buddy! Ever consider it's all marketing? And from WHOM I wonder. Claim to what, a plot'o'land. I hit oil in my kid's sandbox. Buy MY stock,will ya. I race too.


 


Posted by Binky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Shadow,
It's not much but this is pulled from an old
CMKI filing:


On November 25, 2002 the Company agreed to acquire the Casavant Family Mineral Claims in certain kimberlite deposits located in the Province of Saskatchewan, Canada. The Mineral Claims were held in the name of five companies owned directly and/or beneficially by the Casavant Family and Morgain Minerals, Inc. (a company held by third parties with the claims under option). These companies include Commando Holdings, Ltd., Buckshot Holdings, Ltd., 101010307 Saskatchewan Ltd., 101012190 Saskatchewan Ltd., and 101027101 Saskatchewan Ltd. In addition, Fort a la Corne Diamond Fields, Inc. acted as the claims and exploration manager for the five companies above, as well as, the claims held by Morgain Minerals, Inc. Each of these companies have agreed to transfer 100% of the Mineral Claims to the Company in accordance with the Mineral Disposition Regulations of Saskatchewan, 1986.


Here is a reply to an inquiry to Morgain minerals about their claims being optioned to CMKM.

By: arete
06 Feb 2004, 12:35 PM EST
Msg. 62937 of 518692
Jump to msg. #
I just spoke with Ray Mongeau of Morgain Minerals and he said that MM and UC, he knows him and has seen him, had a discussion 2 years ago but has never heard back from him to finalize any deal. He said they definitely didn't have any deal including any option arrangement for MM claims. The original talks called for UC to buy MM claims for $120,000. So those claims from MM are not apart of UCs collection.



 


Posted by lanebro on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
WILL
I am one of those who believes if the facts are in, the business run with attention to detail, good management, etc. It won"t make any difference what is said. We really need to lock down some of these things like SHADOW is doing, claims,track intercompany ownership,etc.We need to use public document as much as possible. PR'S though better than rumor can be only part truthful. It is very apparent on this board how a PR can be interpreted many ways. I don't agree with Wallace about the ancillary companys, I have already almost gone to free shares on 25m CMKX by trading them. Thta is my hedge,but we still need the poop on CMKX.
UPSIDE-Your research neglected to mention wether there were any diamonds.
VAN

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 01, 2004).]


See Van, you are doing what UC wanted all along. It's a stock GAME. You made money... happy, happy. That's it. No diamonds fellas, and ladies. It's a market game. If you can accept that,you'll do well. Good luck to all.
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:

Hi Noah, Van, RaiderJR, Byrd, Everyone, I liked this post from RB-Debi

***How does a roll-up fit into the picture?
First, let's establish what a roll-up is. The definition from Investopedia states the following: In the context of venture capital, when a VC forces small companies to merge in order to reduce costs. If you see Urban as a venture capitalist, it's easy to see that he's been telegraphing every move he's made. That's why he said the plan is in the PR's.

reduce WHAT COSTS?--
and i agree about the plan it IS the PR's


Second, let's establish the basic goal of a roll-up. The easiest way to understand it, at least for me, is to envision a series of small, scattered and inefficient Mom and Pop grocery stores. Apply economies of scale to the equation and you can see the advantages of transforming those scattered stores into a chain of supertstores (this is the basic business model Walmart applies to retail and Home Depot applies to hardware). Just transfer the example to mining and you've got Urban's master plan. He saves money by centralizing and efficientizing every step of the process, that is, taking minerals from the ground to the store shelf and squeezing costs every step of the way.

what proces is he "efficientizing" LOL selling more shares?

So how do roll-ups fit into CMKX's future? First, they lie well within the boundaries of the business model I have speculated that Urban is following. Thus far Urban has steadfastly adhered to the model and I expect him to continue. Additionally, roll ups were specifically mentioned in the Dec. 4, 2002 PR (see A. below). Finally, Edwards and Angell have sponsored seminars regarding roll ups and Roger Glenn and staff are quite familiar with the process (see B. below).

they've stuck to the dilution plan that's for SURE

So what's it mean? In my opinion, ("CMKX") is destined to become an exploration company with a financial arm and a "turn-key" project management arm. UCAD will provide the operating management, and Urban will provide the other necessary services (i.e., legal, marketing, cutting/polishing, etc.) that will complete a fully integrated marketing system. In other words, Urban will take diamonds and other minerals from the ground directly to the consumer.

they need more than 2 micro-diamonds

At this point, I'm not sure which company will take the lead (i.e., CIM, UCAD, CMKX, etc.) but the economies of scale and synergy inherent in this combination make it a foregone conclusion. While the exact structure remains a bit nebulous, the inevitable march toward that goal is undeniably relentless. The future will be very bright for those with the foresight to see beyond the tip of their nose.

economies of scaleand synergy will make it obvious...LOL
whichever one has the smallest OS will lead the way

Good Luck you're gonna need it

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited September 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
Well, I had enough tonight. Going to bed, and I'll apologize to Sam Walton for his name being used in vain.


 


Posted by lanebro on :
 
I need to make just one more point. Read it or don't. Maybe now I'll go away (depending on responses, of course, ha, ha). I am trying to figure this out too, for different reasons.

I have been reading many posts. Some folks are hanging on to this incredible future prospect. Others are trying to prove UC is a joke.

It's all so very simple really.

Urban likes racing. (can't blame the man)
Urban found a cash cow.

You'll probably do okay if you quit waiting for instant gratification.

Go live your life.
Check back every now and then. Move accordingly.

It's all a game.
A game of patience.

No diamonds.
No financials.
Lottsa worms... okay, bad joke.

Have fun, or get out/ life is too short. Trust me here.

It's really NOT much money out of pocket.

Quit trying to figure out what you absolutely don't have an inkling of.

Planned that way? Hmmmm?

Bottom line:
Urban IS brilliant. I have to admire his marketing strategy. In your face!

He ain't a very "photogenic" guy though....
Trust me here.

 


Posted by Royals on :
 
Shadow,Secman,Glassman and others, I thank you for your DD esp. Shadow and hope you follow up on your investigation of getting to look at the books.If(as a stock holder in CMKX)I can be of any help don't hesitate. I don't post much as I'm not as knowledgable about penny stocks as you all are. Once again thanks from me and the other newbie lurkers.
 
Posted by shadow on :
 
Just to be clear from my perspective...
I have "never" called CMKX a SCAM but I
do think that their business practices
leave a lot to be desired.

In terms of the mineral rights, it is disturbing that our mineral rights are
not registered with the government as
CMKX or CMK. anything. If you look at
the listing you will see new additions
and at time different percentages owned
by each group. I would feel much more
comfortable if the claims were in the
companies name and not Urban's... The
point is that we do not know anything
that is going on... Investors have put
many, many, millions of dollars into this
company. The company has a responsibility
to shareholders.

All we know is that CMKX has rights to
1.4M acres... We do not know what percentage
we have of those rights. We do not know if
Urban has control of other rights uniquely...

We may find out in the future that Urban has
struck gold and diamonds... on his claims and
not CMKX... but seeing how he is such a great
guy he might actually give the 40,000 shareholders of CMKX a small percentage.

As for Glenn... he has one job for which
he is paid for and that is to keep Urban
between the guardrails and from behind
the bars. His interests do not lie with
the shareholder but the company. (In most
cases the interests of the company are in
the interests of the shareholder. Not sure
with this company - any real move will require
a reverse split or merger and both will
have the same effect on the current shareholders
In my humble opinion.


quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
about sask ltd. i think that came up awhile ago..as 4 differant companies own differant %'s of the same claim it is held under one name. common sence says for there to be no real claims then 5 companies including shane resourses are in on the scam and since only cmkx is not reporting it would be highly unlikely for that to be true. remember all these companies have had prs about the same claims and canada is much stricter about pr's then the U.S.


 


Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
dw-read this again: Why don't you serious long and strongs who insist on engaging those mindless, misguided, meanspirited churls realise that if you simply ignored every one of their specious posts, they would in all likelyhood just leave quite unnoticed????[/B][/QUOTE]

it's not even remotely critical, am simply asking why you, Noah, Debi, Van, Winsum, etc, continue to reply to insults from those designated morons that waist bandwith with their tiresome crap.You all seem to take the bait whenever they spew. Why don't you just leave them TF alone. Those wankers make as much impression as a flea screwing an elephant. The aforementioned group of serious share holders are most impressive in their research Their efforts are truly appreciated. Many thanks.
Long enough and strong enough. The very best of LTA. Michael
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Justhis1ce:
[B]dw-read this again: Why don't you serious long and strongs who insist on engaging those mindless, misguided, meanspirited churls...

Point well taken Michael. I saw the words accusing us longs and strongs as being "mindless, misguided, meanspirited", and assumed that you were attacking us. My apologies, sir.
Don
 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
I see this thread certainly wasn't in a quiet period last night. UPSIDE, you were on a roll !

Now that DD puts a whole new meaning to the phrase, "CMKX to da MOON!"

And, "double secret quiet time theory" ?

Priceless!

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Now here's some real dd! Using a micrometer, I just measured the thickness of an old stock certificate we have. It was about .008" thick. If you took all 800 billion CMKX certificates (assuming the same .008" thickness) and piled them on top of one another, it would be a pile 101,010 MILES high, or, almost halfway to the moon. I think I should get the research of the night award for that one!


 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Correction.... I misread. You were not accusing us but them for being misguided. Again, apologies.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
agreed justhis1ce. the truth is this is heading to a loss faster then a gain. maybe the a/s is where it is because of naked shorting, we don't know and may never find out. not even pumpers can in all good faith believe a 800 billion o/s does not make cmkx worthless or next to it. the one thing that leaves a big question in my mind is why the differance in the dividend split according to the OTC. i'm wondering, did they cut the cim in 1/2, to 20 billion in order to close cmkx, move all rights to cim and thus leave insiders & UC with 50%. it wouldn't really be a r/s though it would have the same effect. but it would kill the naked shares, get us to a somewhat more equal footing with our partners and increase the pps. but without diamond results the pps would tank again and the results from the new drilling site are months off. carolyn results will not be good as others have looked there and found nothing. UC is too much in the public's face to be scamming us and what part the lawyer plays is yet to be seen. i'm guessing it won't be till oct. before the company says anything

[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited September 02, 2004).]
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
This is from another board.

Guys I received this in an e-mail tonight. I thought it was a good read and something to share.

God Bless

Darin

Subject: Thoughts on the next 45 days re CMKX


The following e-mail by el camino echoes many of my own feelings. I believe sept 5 through October 15 will reveal many positive events for which we have all beenwaiting.
Distribution of the UCAD , Gemm and CIM (I think) dividends, Carolyne results, Ucad possibly moving to the AMEX, Langley group going public, results of the meeting in Canada are just some of the many things that will unfold.

If the distribution of UCAD an GEMM sares does not produce a short squeeze, then most certainly, distribution of the privately held CIM shares must produce a short squeeze because the MM's can not create shares for a privately held company--they must come to Casavant or to us (IMHO).

This will be the most difficult time for all of us. The MM'swill attempt to produce maximum pain,and discourage us in an attempt to make us sell. We have come too far to fall prey to such tricks now. Now more than ever we must pull together and be strong.
Warm regards and good luck to us all

Larry

Below is an encouraging email from el camino

What is goingon with CMKX?.....Well,

That seems to be the question of the week! Let me give you all my opinion of the events unfolding. Now mind you this is just my opinion based on well informed conversations that I have had with credible people associated with CMKM Diamonds.

First of all as I stated upon returning from Canada I feel more confident than I have at any other point in the last two years I have been holding shares of CMKX. The reason is not only because I saw the core drilling first-hand, but also because of the technology that brought us to that specific site to drill. The confidence exhibited by CMKM and UCAD management over the drilling is inexpressible. It is utter exuberance that I saw on the faces of management as they talked about the potential at this site.

Second, today's Green Baron Report coupled with personal insights confirmed to me that significant events will occur in September beginning as early as next Tuesday, September 7th. Exactly what those events are I do not know. However, I will share with you my excitement over the fact that CMKM is working fervently to re-establish itself as a reporting company. To do this they need to establish the fundamental elements required to be a reporting company. Completed audits that reflect the share structure, the companies financial posture, holdings, (valuation of all assets minus liabilities). This coupled with the strength of Mr. D. Roger Glenn's name attached to any formal reporting will certainly put a scare in the market makers and force an increase in the pps.

Thirdly, adding fuel to the fire we have the UCAD, CIM and GEMM dividends that are imminent and open up a whole new world of possibilities for the CMKX shareholders fortunate enough to have bought in before the date of record. I believe that a plan is unfolding that is going to reveal the short position by the market makers and resolve the issue once and for all. What that plan is I will leave for others with far more creative abilities than I to relate to everyone. I generally like to stick to the facts as I know them and gird them with my "gut" instinct.

We are ready to make the move. If for any reason other than September signals the end of a quarter and most public companies report within 30 days. It is the perfect opportunity for everything to come together. The successful trip to Ecuador by UCAD Senior management, the dividends, the trip to Sask, even yesterday's press release of Gary Walters suing major Wall Street traders for abusing the "stock borrowing program" and flooding the market with fraudulent shares will all play a significant part in the success of this company. While in Canada Urban told me one very important fact. "All of these people have a very important role to play, even you the shareholders have a role to play." Be encouraged by Mr. Casavant's words. They are not trite nor are they without substance. Anyone looking into his eyes can see the depth to which his wisdom extends. Never have I known a man more confident of his path and his destiny. Looking forward to a wonderful month ahead.



 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well dw, i'm guess the same as in oct before we find anything out.
 
Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
This is from another board.

Guys I received this in an e-mail tonight. I thought it was a good read and something to share.

God Bless

Darin

Subject: Thoughts on the next 45 days re CMKX


The following e-mail by el camino echoes many of my own feelings. I believe sept 5 through October 15 will reveal many positive events for which we have all beenwaiting.
Distribution of the UCAD , Gemm and CIM (I think) dividends, Carolyne results, Ucad possibly moving to the AMEX, Langley group going public, results of the meeting in Canada are just some of the many things that will unfold.

If the distribution of UCAD an GEMM sares does not produce a short squeeze, then most certainly, distribution of the privately held CIM shares must produce a short squeeze because the MM's can not create shares for a privately held company--they must come to Casavant or to us (IMHO).

This will be the most difficult time for all of us. The MM'swill attempt to produce maximum pain,and discourage us in an attempt to make us sell. We have come too far to fall prey to such tricks now. Now more than ever we must pull together and be strong.
Warm regards and good luck to us all

Larry

Below is an encouraging email from el camino

What is goingon with CMKX?.....Well,

That seems to be the question of the week! Let me give you all my opinion of the events unfolding. Now mind you this is just my opinion based on well informed conversations that I have had with credible people associated with CMKM Diamonds.

First of all as I stated upon returning from Canada I feel more confident than I have at any other point in the last two years I have been holding shares of CMKX. The reason is not only because I saw the core drilling first-hand, but also because of the technology that brought us to that specific site to drill. The confidence exhibited by CMKM and UCAD management over the drilling is inexpressible. It is utter exuberance that I saw on the faces of management as they talked about the potential at this site.

Second, today's Green Baron Report coupled with personal insights confirmed to me that significant events will occur in September beginning as early as next Tuesday, September 7th. Exactly what those events are I do not know. However, I will share with you my excitement over the fact that CMKM is working fervently to re-establish itself as a reporting company. To do this they need to establish the fundamental elements required to be a reporting company. Completed audits that reflect the share structure, the companies financial posture, holdings, (valuation of all assets minus liabilities). This coupled with the strength of Mr. D. Roger Glenn's name attached to any formal reporting will certainly put a scare in the market makers and force an increase in the pps.

Thirdly, adding fuel to the fire we have the UCAD, CIM and GEMM dividends that are imminent and open up a whole new world of possibilities for the CMKX shareholders fortunate enough to have bought in before the date of record. I believe that a plan is unfolding that is going to reveal the short position by the market makers and resolve the issue once and for all. What that plan is I will leave for others with far more creative abilities than I to relate to everyone. I generally like to stick to the facts as I know them and gird them with my "gut" instinct.

We are ready to make the move. If for any reason other than September signals the end of a quarter and most public companies report within 30 days. It is the perfect opportunity for everything to come together. The successful trip to Ecuador by UCAD Senior management, the dividends, the trip to Sask, even yesterday's press release of Gary Walters suing major Wall Street traders for abusing the "stock borrowing program" and flooding the market with fraudulent shares will all play a significant part in the success of this company. While in Canada Urban told me one very important fact. "All of these people have a very important role to play, even you the shareholders have a role to play." Be encouraged by Mr. Casavant's words. They are not trite nor are they without substance. Anyone looking into his eyes can see the depth to which his wisdom extends. Never have I known a man more confident of his path and his destiny. Looking forward to a wonderful month ahead.



 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i'm wondering one thing and no place to find the answer. Can the T/A let more real shares be sold then the a/s equals? could it be that there were 800 billion shares sold that went through the T/A or sold by the company? i find it hard to believe that could happen. UC would have a serious law suit and us shareholders would be part of that.
 
Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Cmkm Diamond Inc     (OTHER OTC: CMKX) Last Update: 9:30:00 AM ET Sep 2, 2004  
 
CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces $10,000,000 Joint Venture Agreement

LAS VEGAS, Sep 2, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) is pleased to announce that the Company has finalized a joint venture agreement where St. George Metals, Inc. (Pink Sheets:SGGM) will purchase a 5% unencumbered and absolute interest in any and all mineral claims held by CMKM Diamonds, Inc. in consideration for $10,000,000 US Dollars and two hundred billion (200,000,000,000) restricted shares of SGGM. The Company has received a $2,500,000 payment with three additional payments of $2,500,000 anticipated within the next 30 days.

There is no guarantee that further exploration or drilling will produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the company.

This press release contains "forward-looking" statements as that term is defined by Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 (the "Securities Act"), as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (the "Exchange Act"), as amended. All statements that are included in this press release other than statements of historical fact are "forward-looking" statements. Although management believes that the expectations reflecting in these forward-looking statements are reasonable, it can give no assurance that such expectations will prove to have been correct. Important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the expectations as disclosed herein, including without limitation, in conjunction with these forward-looking statements contained in this press release.

SOURCE: CMKM Diamonds, Inc.

CMKM Diamonds Inc.877-752-3755orDiamonds Hotline:Melvin O'Neil, 306-752-3755 or 877-752-3755Fax: 306-752-3754

 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
So would you say this confirms that cmkx DOES have mineral claims?
 
Posted by rde3 on :
 
I believe we are still "viable" people....
Whacha got to say to that ?

HE HE HE

Yahooooooo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 


Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Now here's some real dd! Using a micrometer, I just measured the thickness of an old stock certificate we have. It was about .008" thick. If you took all 800 billion CMKX certificates (assuming the same .008" thickness) and piled them on top of one another, it would be a pile 101,010 MILES high, or, almost halfway to the moon. I think I should get the research of the night award for that one!


I think you're on to something here, Upside! I was just thinking of a 100,000 mile high stack of certs and the pressure all that weight would be exerting on the shares on the bottom. Perhaps enough pressure to turn paper into diamonds? Hell, if the company can't find any, let's all get our certs and start stacking!

 


Posted by rde3 on :
 
Now tell us Mr. Casavant isn't working some deals...... I think he will prove to be a genious after this all takes place....

I'm LONG and STRONG 4M Shares
 


Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces $10,000,000 Joint Venture Agreement
via CDS

September 2, 2004

CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) is pleased to announce that the Company has finalized a joint venture agreement where St. George Metals, Inc. (Pink Sheets:SGGM) will purchase a 5% unencumbered and absolute interest in any and all mineral claims held by CMKM Diamonds, Inc. in consideration for $10,000,000 US Dollars and two hundred billion (200,000,000,000) restricted shares of SGGM. The Company has received a $2,500,000 payment with three additional payments of $2,500,000 anticipated within the next 30 days.

There is no guarantee that further exploration or drilling will produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the company.

This press release contains "forward-looking" statements as that term is defined by Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 (the "Securities Act"), as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (the "Exchange Act"), as amended. All statements that are included in this press release other than statements of historical fact are "forward-looking" statements. Although management believes that the expectations reflecting in these forward-looking statements are reasonable, it can give no assurance that such expectations will prove to have been correct. Important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the expectations as disclosed herein, including without limitation, in conjunction with these forward-looking statements contained in this press release.

CONTACT: CMKM Diamonds Inc.
877-752-3755
or
Diamonds Hotline:
Melvin O'Neil, 306-752-3755 or 877-752-3755
Fax: 306-752-3754
 


Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
Will we see another dividend???
 
Posted by rde3 on :
 
Guess what 100% of the claims would be?

$200,000,000.00 Dollars.......
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
SGGM share price skyrocketing on news.


.02 up to .08 in first 15 minutes

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 02, 2004).]
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
I must say that market is finally waking up - I just noticed that my profits are slowly creeping up in the last few days - and this PR just in time....I still would prefer to hear the diamond find, but such activity is better than no activity.
 
Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
200 b shares of SGGM @ 0.1 = 20b dollars?!
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Well, at least any imposed or self-imposed quiet period is over. I hope.

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 02, 2004).]
 


Posted by ali on :
 
Only 5% of our claims, so that means SGGM thinks that CMKX may be sitting on something huge...well well..another divident coming, cool....lets bring up the OS now!

 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
SGGM, last reporting to SEC in 2002, had been pretty much gutted, no money, unable to pay debts, etc. Looks like another shell company. Has to be more chapters to this story.
 
Posted by Bam Bam 17 on :
 
DRILLING UPDATE FROM MELVIN CMKX hit kimberlight at 437 feet!!!!! They are at 675 ft deep now.

May God Bless All.
 


Posted by ali on :
 
SGGM was trading @ 0.0001 in Feb 2003
http://channel.bridge.com/bc/base/BWF.DLL?display?cmd:US%3BSGGM%5B1176thd%5D%2Fmo

[This message has been edited by ali (edited September 02, 2004).]
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bam Bam 17:
DRILLING UPDATE FROM MELVIN CMKX hit kimberlight at 437 feet!!!!! They are at 675 ft deep now.

May God Bless All.


Bam do you play any other stocks???


????????????????????????????????????????????

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited September 02, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Checked Secy of State Nev. St. George Metals Inc. Status "reinstated". Only lists Resident Agent - Mark Giebelhaus at 1350 E Flamingo Las Vegas NV
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
Noah i am glad to see that you are starting to look into the players....

this PR looks very good on the surface, and i am too busy trading this morning to get into it..maybe later tonite..
be skeptical..its just safer that way..
 


Posted by Bam Bam 17 on :
 
Yes but not that good like ETCR LONG and some others but it was a BLESSING to fined CMKX and I bought a LOT @0.0001.

May God Bless All.

quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Bam do you play any other stocks???


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bam Bam 17:
Yes but not that good like ETCR LONG and some others but it was a BLESSING to fined CMKX and I bought a LOT @0.0001.

May God Bless All.


Good luck with it Bam, i noticed this was your favorite a long time ago...
 


Posted by Bam Bam 17 on :
 
glassman I just want to say thanks because I have read alot of your post and I love to lern.

May God Bless All.

quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Good luck with it Bam, i noticed this was your favorite a long time ago...


 


Posted by GatorMan on :
 
WOW! I show SGGM up 800% - .01 -> .09.

Where's CMKX's 800%?

------------------
~,-,-< GatorMan
 


Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
Bam Bam please tell us you're joking dude
...lern???

quote:
Originally posted by Bam Bam 17:
glassman I just want to say thanks because I have read alot of your post and I love to lern.

May God Bless All.



 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Dean Gold Mine, USA

Dean Gold Mine is a suspended underground mine in Nevada, USA. It is controlled/owned by Saint George Metals Inc

http://www.rmg.se/RMDEntities/D/DEANMI.htm
 


Posted by Bam Bam 17 on :
 
justhis1ce I lern from you too.

May God Bless All.

quote:
Originally posted by Justhis1ce:
Bam Bam please tell us you're joking dude
...lern???



 


Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Good Morning All, I have read the news and lots of DD on SGGM on other boards. My first thought was 5% of our claims being sold off for $10 Million values us at $200 Million and that was disappointing. Then realized the 200 Billion shares @.01-.10 are $2 Billion to $20 Billion added to the mix. Also dividends or possibly the shell we will merge into. Keeps a person guessing. I am still buying CMKX (got more this AM). I think that this stock will eventually move and shake the shorts.

After looking at my DD on SGGM, It looked like a CMKX type company was buying CMKX. SGGM may not look like it has money or a business buy they did cough up the cash and passed muster with Roger Glenn so I am happy with that.

Also SGGM will presumably profit from CMKX and pass that on to their shareholders which will include us. So we will be getting added value here too.

All things considered this company that is selling for .0003 has a minimum value of $240 million dollars at .0003 and just sold 5% of itself for what looks like $2 Billion dollars, more or less. That would place a value on us of $40 Billion if Roger ever needs to prove the harm done to the company by the "alleged Naked shorters" in a court of law; it seems like one point for the good guys. IMO-Debi

Damian -the link for ********s 32 is: http://cmkxdiamond.********s32.com

Justthis1nce- Good advice-I won't be responding to questions from anyone i percieve as having a negative bent on the company, me, or known bashers. IMO-Debi

However, I will retain 100% gloating rights to be enjoyed by October 31 and will extend those rights to the same people I now view as a waste of board space.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Warrenton, Virginia - Aug 11, 2003 - Saint George Metals (OTC: SGGM) announced today the acquisition of net branch mortgage rights from MorNorth Mortgage (OTCBB: UNCN), a publicly traded Colorado corporation. Details were not disclosed, other than that Saint George Metals will issue, in exchange, a limited number of restricted common shares to shareholders of MorNorth Mortgage.

Such shares shall be paid to shareholders of MorNorth Mortgage with a record date of Wednesday, August 6, 2003 and a payable date of Friday, August 8, 2003.
http://financialnewsusa.com/headlines/081103_sggm.html



 


Posted by glassman on :
 
at least this settles the "silent period" question
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
St. George is a client of McClelland Laboratories, who test metals in Nevada.

http://www.mettest.com/client_list_4.htm
 


Posted by ludinlo on :
 
These stocks we are suppose to receive from the other companies. Have they been issued as yet.

My account always show's as a negative on CMKX cause they can't read under two decimal places.

I have not seen any of these issued shares we are to receive.
 


Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
However, I will retain 100% gloating rights to be enjoyed by October 31 and will extend those rights to the same people I now view as a waste of board space. [/B][/QUOTE]

Shouldn't think you'd be able to. No real point for them "hang" under the wonderful circumstances. M
 


Posted by Spike3333 on :
 
MoneyPenny said: "Will we see another dividend?"

I know this is a stupid question but, I havent gotten any dividend yet, should I have?
 


Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Hi Justthis1nce -They'll be back. Just like Frddy Kreueger, Jason and Carrie. They will never go away completely. It is still early in this game. Until the 'alleged naked shorts' are covered, there will be a concerted effort to try to get CMKX shareholders to sell and to discourage new shareholders from coming in. IMO-Debi

 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Dividend distribution dates: Sept 24 and Oct 1
 
Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Hi Spike and Lud, The first dividends to show up will be UCAD and the payment date for that is September 24, 2004.

The other dividends record date has passed so if you owned the stock on that date you will receive it on the payment date. I am not sure of the payment dates but I think they are after Spetember 24, possibly in October. I am happy to receive the dividends but I am really looking for the price to move and for the company to announce the end result of the meetings in Canada, the lab reports, and the share structure which will cause the price to move North. IMO-Debi

[This message has been edited by WWJD-thru-me (edited September 02, 2004).]
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Wow, it was good to see the .0004. lol At this point, it looks good.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
JEFF finally moved off the .0003. Trades now going through at .0004
 
Posted by rde3 on :
 
What's this ? more excitement.....

GO CMKX


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
11:55:33 2000000 0.0003 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:55:03 1000000 0.0004 + OTCEQ_NBB
11:54:36 575000 0.0003 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:53:45 2000000 0.0004 + OTCEQ_NBB
11:53:30 1400000 0.0004 + OTCEQ_NBB
11:51:48 1000000 0.0003 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:50:00 2000000 0.0004 + OTCEQ_NBB
11:49:57 1000000 0.0004 + OTCEQ_NBB
11:49:06 610000 0.0003 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:46:57 5000000 0.0003 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:46:48 7000000 0.0003 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:46:21 9999999 0.0003 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:46:09 9000000 0.0003 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:46:03 9000000 0.0003 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:45:57 9000000 0.0003 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:45:51 9000000 0.0003 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:45:48 1000000 0.0003 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:45:33 9000000 0.0003 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:45:27 9000000 0.0003 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:45:21 9000000 0.0003 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:45:12 9000000 0.0003 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:45:06 9000000 0.0003 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:45:00 9000000 0.0003 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:44:54 9000000 0.0003 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:44:39 9000000 0.0003 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:44:18 9000000 0.0003 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:44:00 4048700 0.0004 + OTCEQ_NBB

 
Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
Dividend distribution dates: Sept 24 and Oct 1

Greetings N, any thoughts on CMKX pps drifting from present numbers upwards prior to 24 Sept, or will MM's continue doing what they're doing? M
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Justhis1ce:
Greetings N, any thoughts on CMKX pps drifting from present numbers upwards prior to 24 Sept, or will MM's continue doing what they're doing? M


We're going to need a more substantial PR than we got today, to start the move up. Right now, I think they are trading around the .00035 level causing the gyrations between .0003 and .0004.


 


Posted by rde3 on :
 
Don't look forward to it yet, Justfor1nce.

MM's are just trying to shake a few people right now.... JMHO
 


Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:

We're going to need a more substantial PR than we got today, to start the move up. Right now, I think they are trading around the .00035 level causing the gyrations between .0003 and .0004.


Cheers. M


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Canuck
Re: Drilling Report
« Thread started on: Today at 09:35am »

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
on Today at 09:34am, soonerfan wrote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Drymouth just spoke to melvin and came on with a drill report. Yesterday they were at approx. 375 ft. and had just drilled through a "seem" of pressure olivine material. Expected to find kimberlite just beyond that. Well they did! This of course is being verified right now with the geologist.

They hit kimberlite at approx 437 ft. Currently they are at 675 ft. and STILL IN KIMBERLITE! Basically we're looking at a kimberlite pipe that is (currently being verified by geologist)................

8 miles x 5 miles or 40 SQUARE MILES OF KIMBERLITE

Urban flew up to the drill site to see it.




 


Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Hi Everyone, The SGGM price flew up rather high today. The value of the shares of SGGM are between $2 Billion at .01 and $20 Billion at .10. That is in addition to $10 Million cash for 5% of our claims. So multiply by 20 for full valuation if this was the sale price of $200 Million cash and $40-$400 Billion of SGGM stock. Not too shabby for a company trading at a maximum valuation of $240 Million dollars.

I will put that last thought by itself for emphasis. This places the value of CMKX according to the present results of this sale at $40,000,000,000, to $400,000,000,000 and it still is selling at .0003 or .0004.

I have to ask myself: Self? Are you really the foolish one here buying this stock at .0003? If the company were to be valued at $40 Billion Dollars that would give a share price of .05 for 800 Billion Shares.

IF $400 Billion for 800 Billion shares the PPS would be .50.

If there is a smaller number of shares the PPS would go up. This doesn't count a short squeeze. Does one of these numbers look like a rumored price that UC said this was worth that didn't include the Naked short squeeze? It does to me. IMO-Debi



 


Posted by glassman on :
 
ok...reading the SGGM venture.....
200 billion shares of a comapany with a .10 PPS looks nice....
BUT...
the 60 day avge prices is only .0052$
and that is with a 60day avge volume of 11,388 shares.....

these are more restricted shares...don't start counting your dollars just yet....

i hope the drilling pulls up some diamonds this time...
good luck...
 


Posted by rde3 on :
 
hmmmmm
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
something else to ponder too, while you curse me for being the basher that i'm NOT....

this is MORE dilution of YOUR mineral holdings...the only thing you do own right now...
the only thing i have ever told you to expect is MORE DILUTION......
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Old news, but telling.

Gold reserves located by St. George Metals - Alloying & Precious Metals
American Metal Market, March 7, 1991 by Christopher Munford

Gold reserves located by St. George Metals

NEW YORK -- St. George Metals Inc., Houston, said it has located new gold reserves at he previously worked Dean mine in Nevada.

Announcement of the find would seem to run counter to a decision last month by Reynolds Metals Co., Richmond, Va., to pull out of a joint exploration program with St. George. Reynolds said it was terminating its joint-venture agreement because no proven gold reserves had been located.

An idenpendent consulting firm recently identified one ore zone at the site as containing 6,300 tons of proven reserves grading 0.9 ounce of gold per ton on an average, the company said.

St. George and Reynolds had been exploring the site for several years by means of bulk sampling and surface drilling. Underground work has included reopening old adits and reworking closed haulage drifts.

The company said it is currently considering construction of a pilot ore processing facility at the property and is considering additional financing measures, including a search for a new partner.

COPYRIGHT 1991 Reed Business Information

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 02, 2004).]
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Glass, I used to think you were a basher but not anymore. More than once you have shaken us back into the real world. Thanks. However, don't burst too many of our baloons.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
sorry if i came across too harsh... i really do want them to find diamonds..

 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
New information at the drill site. Diamondiferous called by the drillers, not the geologist yet.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
sorry if i came across too harsh... i really do want them to find diamonds..

No apology necessary, glass.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Info on SGGM:

NEVADA SECRETARY OF STATE

Company Name: ST. GEORGE METALS, INC. INDEX NUMBER 0000848626

Type: REGULAR (DOMESTIC)

Status: ACTIVE (REINSTATED)

Standing: CURRENTLY IN GOOD STANDING

Status Date: 7/19/2004

Filing Date: 6/13/1984

Duration: PERPETUAL

State or Country of Incorporation: NEVADA

Purpose: ALL LEGAL ACTIVITIES; HAS NO GAMING

Registered Agent: MARK GIEBELHAUS
Status: ACCEPTED
Creation Date: 8/6/2004
Companies Represented: 1
Companies in Good Standing: 1

Registered Office: 1350 E FLAMINGO RD #688
LAS VEGAS, NV 89119

Additional Information: HAS LIMITED LIABILITY

Filing Number: C4070-1984

Annual Report: Date Due: 2005
Report Date: 8/6/2004
Comments: TERMINATED LIST OF OFFICERS; Number of Officers Reported: 3

Stock Information: Par Value: $ 0.001
Total Capital: $ 950,000,000,000

Officers, Directors: MARK GIEBELHAUS
PRESIDENT
1350 E. FLAMINGO RD #688
LAS VEGAS, NV 89119
Added Date: 4/15/1985

R. ROSS BLUSSON
DIRECTOR
470 W. 37TH STREET
VANCOUVER, BC
Added Date: 7/9/1984

History: File Date: 8/6/2004
Comments: DONALD HAINES #688 1350 E. FLAMINGO RD LAS VEGAS NV 89119 SBA
Transaction: RESIDENT AGENT RESOLUTION

File Date: 7/23/2004
Comments: CERTIFICATE OF AMENDMENT FILED AMENDING CORPORATE STOCK. NEW ACTUAL STOCK IS 950,000,000,000 @ .001 = 950,000,000. ($34725) 1PG SBA
Transaction: 020

File Date: 7/23/2004
Comments: CAPITAL STOCK WAS 40,000,000 @ .010= 400,000 SBA
Transaction: CHANGE CAPITAL

File Date: 7/19/2004
Comments: REINSTATED, REVOKED 07-01-04 AJW
Transaction: OTHER AMENDMENT

File Date: 7/19/2004
Comments: THOMAS L. BELAUSTEGUI 71 WASHINGTON ST RENO NV 89503 AJW
Transaction: RESIDENT AGENT RESOLUTION

File Date: 7/30/1993
Comments: CERTIFICATE OF DESIGNATION, PREFERENCES, RIGHTS AND LIMITATIONS OF SERIES B PREFERRED STOCK, $.01 PAR VALUE. DMF
Transaction: OTHER AMENDMENT

File Date: 8/22/1991
Comments: CERTIFICATE OF DESIGNATION, PREFERENCES, RIGHTS AND LIMITATIONS OF SERIES A PREFERRED STOCK, $.01 PAR VALUE. TLS
Transaction: OTHER AMENDMENT

File Date: 12/31/1990
Comments: RESTATED ARTICLES - VARIOUS CHANGES IN THE ARTICLES C W
Transaction: OTHER AMENDMENT

File Date: 12/31/1990
Comments: CAPITAL STOCK WAS 2500 NO PAR C W
Transaction: CHANGE CAPITAL

File Date: 2/14/1989
Comments: ADDING LIABILITY-ARTICLES XII AND XIII
Transaction: CHANGED LIMITED LIABILITY

File Date: 7/6/1987
Comments: E. A. HOLLINGSWORTH, ESQ. 226 CALIFORNIA AVE RENO NV 89509
Transaction: RESIDENT AGENT RESOLUTION

File Date: 11/22/1985
Comments: E. A. HOLLINGSWORTH, ESQ. 327 SOUTH ARLINGTON RENO NV 89501
Transaction: RESIDENT AGENT REMOVAL

File Date: 6/5/1985
Comments: E. A. HOLLINGSWORTH, ESQ. 604 LANDER STREET RENO NV 89509
Transaction: RESIDENT AGENT REMOVAL



 


Posted by rde3 on :
 
I see there are adjustments being made. Small transactions taking place by MM's
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Melvin just confirmed that UC is in Sask at the drill site. Wonder about Indy?
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ok i'm happy with the news but how does a stock give away 200 billion shares and move .05 on 350 thousand volume

Quotes delayed 15 minutes Quick Quote
ST GEORGE METALS INC
Last 0.06 fyi Open 0.02
Change +0.05 Previous Close 0.01
% Change +500.00% Bid NA
Volume 351,670 Ask NA
Avg Daily Volume NA Instit. Ownership NA
Day's High 0.12 52 Week High 0.01
Day's Low 0.02 52 Week Low 0.00

we trade 3 to 4 billion and move .0001
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bill1352:
[B]ok i'm happy with the news but how does a stock give away 200 billion shares and move .05 on 350 thousand volume

I guess the MMs don't have their claws in this one yet.
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Unfortunately, I think you're right glassman.

This sucks!

quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
something else to ponder too, while you curse me for being the basher that i'm NOT....

this is MORE dilution of YOUR mineral holdings...the only thing you do own right now...
the only thing i have ever told you to expect is MORE DILUTION......



 


Posted by HarryHar on :
 
To burst a bubble, it is incorrect to put value on 200 billion shares of restricted stock in GSSM stock according to it's PPS as today. When those 200 billion shares eventually become unrestricted, they total float of GSSM is will be a lot higher, and therefore the price will be a lot lower. Too many dividends, and not enough diamonds. Still waiting patiently though with close to 20M. Patience is the key here.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
my guess is that with all of the real DD being done now, UC and family will be drilling everywhere that makes sense....


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
LOOKIN GOOOOOOD !!!!!!!!!!!!

14:39:27 9000000 0.0004 + OTCEQ_NBB
14:38:27 1000000 0.0004 + OTCEQ_NBB
14:38:27 999999 0.0004 + OTCEQ_NBB
14:38:15 2000000 0.0003 - OTCEQ_NBB
14:36:51 1000000 0.0004 + OTCEQ_NBB
14:36:48 200000 0.0004 + OTCEQ_NBB
14:36:33 9000000 0.0004 + OTCEQ_NBB
14:34:57 1000000 0.0004 + OTCEQ_NBB
14:33:33 1000000 0.0004 + OTCEQ_NBB
14:31:09 999999 0.0004 + OTCEQ_NBB
14:31:09 999999 0.0004 + OTCEQ_NBB
14:31:09 999999 0.0004 + OTCEQ_NBB
14:31:00 3000000 0.0003 - OTCEQ_NBB
14:29:00 999999 0.0004 + OTCEQ_NBB

 


Posted by osubucks30 on :
 
I think this is the key line of the PR

There is no guarantee that further exploration or drilling will produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the company.
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
I have always seen that and thought hmmm...
I have never seen any other potencial mining companies state such a thing in thier PR's.

quote:
Originally posted by osubucks30:
I think this is the key line of the PR

There is no guarantee that further exploration or drilling will produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the company.



 


Posted by rde3 on :
 
Yeah, right...............

Every PR that comes out about a stock has that disclaimer.......
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
They have a disclaimer but NOT like that!

quote:
Originally posted by rde3:
Yeah, right...............

Every PR that comes out about a stock has that disclaimer.......



 


Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
GLassman wrote: ok...reading the SGGM venture.....
200 billion shares of a comapany with a .10 PPS looks nice....
BUT...
the 60 day avge prices is only .0052$
and that is with a 60day avge volume of 11,388 shares.....
these are more restricted shares...don't start counting your dollars just yet....

i hope the drilling pulls up some diamonds this time...
good luck..------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Glassman, I totally agree with you on this point. But even at .0052 it comes out to $1 Billion dollars for 5%. Ultimately it will be diamonds and fully reporting that gives lasting value. I do hold that it is is naked shorted and expect that the value is much higher than .0003 or .0004. Time will tell. I can wait.

Roger is putting something together ultimately. I don't know what it is but it may take selling part of our claims to get to a freely traded stock at a proper valuation. Part of that has to include CMKX disclosing much of what isn't public knowledge now. The other part will probably include a reason to use the element of surprise.

Noah-I don't think UC will be at the races in Indy. You could avoid the hassle of travel over the weekend if that was your sole reason for going.

IMO-DLTA-Debi


 


Posted by rde3 on :
 
Well, Sorry,,,,,,

They do all have a disclaimer or forward looking statement......
 


Posted by rde3 on :
 
hmmm, I show several minus buys, and then plus buys close to the minus' over 100 Million shares........

wonder what the MM's are doing ?

anyone care to guess?
 


Posted by rde3 on :
 
09/02/04 13:25:54 0.0003 0.0003 0.0003 9999999
09/02/04 13:26:56 0.0003 0.0003 0.0003 9999999
09/02/04 13:28:05 0.0003 0.0003 0.0003 -110043997
09/02/04 13:28:20 0.0003 0.0003 0.0003 625000
09/02/04 13:28:40 0.0003 0.0003 0.0003 625000
09/02/04 13:28:55 0.0003 0.0003 0.0003 625000
09/02/04 13:29:01 0.0003 0.0003 0.0003 109168997
09/02/04 13:29:02 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 2499999
09/02/04 13:29:05 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 -111418996
09/02/04 13:29:20 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 249999
09/02/04 13:29:40 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 250000
09/02/04 13:29:55 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 250000
09/02/04 13:31:04 0.0003 0.0003 0.0003 113668997
09/02/04 13:31:10 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 999999
09/02/04 13:31:12 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 999999
09/02/04 13:31:20 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 -112668997
09/02/04 13:31:40 0.0003 0.0003 0.0003 1500000
09/02/04 13:31:55 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 1499999
09/02/04 13:33:05 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 250000
09/02/04 13:33:20 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 250000
09/02/04 13:33:34 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 111168997
09/02/04 13:35:00 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 1000000
09/02/04 13:36:36 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 9000000
09/02/04 13:36:52 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 200000
09/02/04 13:36:54 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 1000000
09/02/04 13:38:18 0.0003 0.0003 0.0003 2000000
09/02/04 13:38:30 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 999999
09/02/04 13:38:31 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 1000000
09/02/04 13:39:30 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 9000000
09/02/04 13:41:03 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 250000
09/02/04 13:41:18 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 999999
09/02/04 13:41:53 0.0003 0.0003 0.0003 1500000
09/02/04 13:41:54 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 9001000
09/02/04 13:41:55 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 5277475
09/02/04 13:42:17 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 2000000
09/02/04 13:42:20 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 -111168997
09/02/04 13:42:40 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 250000
09/02/04 13:42:55 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 250000
09/02/04 13:45:05 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 25000
09/02/04 13:45:20 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 25000
09/02/04 13:45:21 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 110718997
09/02/04 13:45:40 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 -110693997
09/02/04 13:45:55 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 25000
09/02/04 13:51:05 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 637250
09/02/04 13:51:20 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 637250
09/02/04 13:51:34 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 109894497
09/02/04 13:51:48 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 2049000
09/02/04 13:52:02 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 1000000
09/02/04 13:57:58 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 2400000
09/02/04 13:58:14 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 2400000
09/02/04 13:59:01 0.0004 0.0004 0.0004 2000000

 
Posted by osubucks30 on :
 
Ucad paid 3 million for 2% interest! Plus has a one year option to purchase 10% more for 15 million!
Source ht tp://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath%3DCOMTEX%5Cbw%5C2004%5C07%5C28%5C40513470.html%26clientid%3D168%26provider%3DBUSINESS_WIRE&symbol=UCAD

So actually when you do the math the company has a value of 150 million! Now a company is going to purchase 5% of the claims for $10 miilion plus a bunch of worthless stock!
So now I'd say the value is about 200 million!!

Plus where did this company get the money to purchase the rights. 10 million is alot of cash for a company with no history of revenue!!

After the 200 billion shares get diluted on the market you will have another .0001 stock to BUY!!

[This message has been edited by osubucks30 (edited September 02, 2004).]
 


Posted by rde3 on :
 
I wish this was my board...... I would delete people such as you OSU
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by osubucks30:
3D168%26provider%3DBUSINESS_WIRE&symbol=UCAD[/URL]

10 million is alot of cash for a company with no history of revenue!!

[This message has been edited by osubucks30 (edited September 02, 2004).]


LOL... Some folks here are going to make $10 million on this stock.
 


Posted by rde3 on :
 
osu, did you forget about a company called CITIBANK ?
 
Posted by Prdponce on :
 
from another board something to look at


By: marilynmoonlow
02 Sep 2004, 02:51 PM EDT
Msg. 519720 of 519786
Jump to msg. #
STEWArt BLUSSON IS THE GUY WHO TEAMED WITH CHARLES FIPKE ON ETAKI MINES !!!!!!!!!R.ROSS BLUSSON CHAIRMAN OF SGGM IS ALSO ON THE BOD OF ACS:TSX-V ARCHON MINERALS LIMITED WITH STEWART BLUSSON AS PRESIDENT!!!!!
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View Replies »
R.ROSS BLUSSON IS ON THE BOD OF NEW CAN TECH WITH DALTON DUPASQUIER WHO WAS THE CEO OF WINSPEAR RESOURCES WHEN IT WAS BOUGHT BY DEBEERS FOR $300M

 


Posted by osubucks30 on :
 
JUST MY TAKE ON THE SITIUATION!!

I think the sec should investigate all of these deals! Now cmkx works with UCAD, SGGM, and GEMM! Looks to me like they issue PR's announcing dividends of these wothless companies just to keep the price from going back to .0001 so they can dump the rest of the shares on the market for a better price!
UCAD, SGGM, AND GEMM have little history of producing any revenue!!
So WHY all of a sudden are all these companies coming up with money to do all this? My take is its all one company!

When all said and done shareholders of cmkx will have stock in 3 or 4 different companies with TRILLIONS of shares between them

 


Posted by rde3 on :
 
I expect there to be another PR tomorrow JMO
 
Posted by Prdponce on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by prdponce:
from another board something to look at


By: marilynmoonlow
02 Sep 2004, 02:51 PM EDT
Msg. 519720 of 519786
Jump to msg. #
STEWArt BLUSSON IS THE GUY WHO TEAMED WITH CHARLES FIPKE ON ETAKI MINES !!!!!!!!!R.ROSS BLUSSON CHAIRMAN OF SGGM IS ALSO ON THE BOD OF ACS:TSX-V ARCHON MINERALS LIMITED WITH STEWART BLUSSON AS PRESIDENT!!!!!
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R.ROSS BLUSSON IS ON THE BOD OF NEW CAN TECH WITH DALTON DUPASQUIER WHO WAS THE CEO OF WINSPEAR RESOURCES WHEN IT WAS BOUGHT BY DEBEERS FOR $300M


EKATI MINERALS DIAMOND JOINT VENTURED BETWEEN BHP DIAMONDS INC. (51%), DIA MET MINERALS (29%), AND GEOLOGISTS, CHARLES E. FIPKE (10%) AND S T E W A R T L. B L U S S O N (10%) .

WASN'T THIS AIRED ON THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL NOT TO LONG AGO. THIS BLUSSON GUY IS VERY WEALTHY AND WANTS A PIECE OF CMKX ACTION.
THIS WAS TAKEN FROM THE BULLBOARDS STOCKHOUSE OUT OF CANADA
SUBJECT RE; CMKX GIRLIE-MAN.,KABOM POSTED BY WALLYOCEAN 9/02/04 13:46P.M.
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Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by osubucks30:
JUST MY TAKE ON THE SITIUATION!!

I think the sec should investigate all of these deals! Now cmkx works with UCAD, SGGM, and GEMM! Looks to me like they issue PR's announcing dividends of these wothless companies just to keep the price from going back to .0001 so they can dump the rest of the shares on the market for a better price!
UCAD, SGGM, AND GEMM have little history of producing any revenue!!
So WHY all of a sudden are all these companies coming up with money to do all this? My take is its all one company!

When all said and done shareholders of cmkx will have stock in 3 or 4 different companies with TRILLIONS of shares between them



Their history did not include Roger. It's that simple.

 


Posted by glassman on :
 
is this guy good at SHARING the wealth????
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
this does have a few weird pieces to it. this is from the post a 1/2 a page up. notice nothing from 1993 till the day after we increased or a/s to 800 billion and then it says it has $950 billion in capitol. a pink sheet stock with $950 billion? nothing for 11 yrs? and it has a a/s of 950 billion shares. well at least there is one company out there with a high a/s then cmkx..lol


Annual Report: Date Due: 2005
Report Date: 8/6/2004
Comments: TERMINATED LIST OF OFFICERS; Number of Officers Reported: 3

Stock Information: Par Value: $ 0.001
Total Capital: $ 950,000,000,000

File Date: 7/23/2004
Comments: CERTIFICATE OF AMENDMENT FILED AMENDING CORPORATE STOCK. NEW ACTUAL STOCK IS 950,000,000,000 @ .001 = 950,000,000. ($34725) 1PG SBA

File Date: 7/19/2004
Comments: THOMAS L. BELAUSTEGUI 71 WASHINGTON ST RENO NV 89503 AJW
Transaction: RESIDENT AGENT RESOLUTION

File Date: 7/30/1993
Comments: CERTIFICATE OF DESIGNATION, PREFERENCES, RIGHTS AND LIMITATIONS OF SERIES B PREFERRED STOCK, $.01 PAR VALUE. DMF


[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited September 02, 2004).]
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
this is from ameritrade's profile of sggm

SGGM St George Metals Inc (OTHER OTC) 9/2/2004 3:53:18 PM ET

Realtime Quote $0.07 + $0.06 (+294.74%) Refresh Quote



Open $ 0.02
High $ 0.12
Low $ 0.02
52-Wk Low $ 0.00
52-Wk High $ 0.03
P/E Ratio n/a
Volume 422,540
Market Cap 956,142
Shares Outstand. 14.4870 M

1day 5days 1year Interactive Charting




Company Information


St. George Metals, Inc.. The Company has no continuing on-going business activities. The Company's financial resources have been substantially exhausted and the management does not know of any additional financing available. The Company has liquidated substantially all its assets and paid off its trade creditors to the extent possible in a continuing effort to wind up its business.


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ameritrade might have to update the profile a bit...lol
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
You don't get much more of a shell than that.
 
Posted by rde3 on :
 
Can you people imagine when CMKX hits the news? It will have to be seen by someone.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rde3:
Can you people imagine when CMKX hits the news? It will have to be seen by someone.

LOL... rde3 gets my vote for post of the day. If you let them know you are a millionaire, you'll be seen by lots of people. All of them will have a diamond mine they want to sell you. :
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
now if i was a basher looking at the stuff just filed by sggm and seeing 950 billion a/s i'd have to say it sure looks like one of UC's buddies but with the one guy looking like he is part of the real canadian diamond finds & working mines further north it wouldn't add up
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Here's some links for ST GEORGE METALS INC
________________________
St. George Metals, Inc.
St. George Metals, Inc.. The Company has no continuing on-going business activities. The Company's financial resources have been substantially exhausted and the management does not know of any additional financing available. The Company has liquidated substantially all its assets and paid off its trade creditors to the extent possible in a continuing effort to wind up its business.
http://www.business.com/directory/retail_and_consumer_services/st_george_metals,_inc/profile/
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McCLELLAND LABORATORIES, INC.
Client List http://www.mettest.com/mliclientlist.htm

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Status of Companies Required to Comply with Eligibility Rule on April 6
http://www.otcbb.com/news/EligibilityRule/aprilaphasein.stm

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U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY--MINERALS INFORMATION
(ST GEORGE is listed on page 23) http://www.epa.gov/epaoswer/hazwaste/ldr/mine/newpop1.pdf
Population Studies of Mines and Mineral Processing Sites, January ...
43.008333 -87.9 Dean Mine St. George Metals, Inc. Battle Mountain NV Au 40.426944 -116.858889 Dee Dee Gold Mining Company, Inc.
AOL


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(go to page 6) http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/mapdata/documnt3.pdf
Mines and Processing Sites, document 3
Page 1. STATE/COMMODITY/COMPANY NAME SITE NAME COUNTY LOCATED MINE, PLANT, M/P ALABAMA BENTONITE AMERICAN COLLOID CO BELLE FOURCHE
AOL


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BRITISH COLUMBIA SECURITIES COMMISSION
Page 1. British Columbia Securities Commission BC Instrument 57-501 The Executive Director of the British Columbia Securities Commission
“Partial Variation for Cease Trade Orders of Certain Issuers” http://www.bcsc.bc.ca:8080/comdoc.nsf/0/be5d545ac2cafa3c88256cf7007992da/$FILE/BCI57-501.pdf
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EXISTING & PERMITTED MINE PLANS http://www.nv.blm.gov/minerals/Mining/Charts/Permitted_Mine_Plans.htm
___________________


 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
JUST GOT IN
where is SGGM getting $10m in 30 days?
VAN
 
Posted by tic_toc on :
 
Good question.
my take is that someone with very deep pockets
(Blusson et all?)
is simply using SGGM as a shell to grab a piece of the CMKX pie.
Why they feel the need to create an A/S of
950 Billion to do this is beyond
comprehension.
They even stole the world record for the largest A/S in history from CMKX.
Interesting development.

[This message has been edited by tic_toc (edited September 02, 2004).]
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Perhaps huge a/s values is the wave of the future...just like the national debt...only a psychological effect. lol
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
EXCELLENT ARTICLE !!!!!
Alot of eye opening info here .... Please read!
--------------------

TheStreet.com: Made for Each Other: Wall Street Sleaze and Anthony Robbins

Commentary : Eye to the Keyhole
http://www.thestreet.com/comment/keyhole/776800.html
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
There's obviously a play going on with SGGM. I got in early this morning on news, and had a good run up. Should've gotten out at .12 I guess, but I want to see how this plays out.
 
Posted by Debbie on :
 

read my horoscope today .... said i was coming into money in or around dec. so things are gonna happen then. To bad i dont really take stock in horoscopes.
.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.thegreenbaron.com/Latest%20Update.htm

“Let’s Get Ready to Rumble”

Yesterday The Green Baron Report released its most positive and aggressive short- term outlook on CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (CMKX). The article stated that we have “never felt as strongly about the company’s future as we do today”, and “we are within weeks of a move substantially higher in CMKX stock”. We went on to say, “We continue to believe that CMKM Diamonds has mineral rights to perhaps the most valuable property in the world, and the company may be close to revealing just how valuable it really is.”

The next thing we know, CMKM Diamonds drops a press release this morning that helps define just how valuable the company may be. On September 2, 2004 CMKM Diamonds Inc. announced that the company has finalized a joint venture agreement where St. George Metals, Inc. (Pink Sheets: SGGM) will purchase a 5% unencumbered and absolute interest in any and all mineral claims held by CMKM Diamonds, Inc. in consideration of $10,000,000 US Dollars and two hundred billion (200,000,000,000) restricted shares of SGGM. The company has received a $2,500,000 payment with three additional payments of $2,500,000 anticipated within the next 30 days.

The Green Baron Report views the cash contribution as vitally important and substantial at this point in time. CMKM Diamonds has already received $3 million from US Canadian Minerals at the end of July, and it is possible that CMKM will receive another $12 million if UCAD executes the options on its agreement. Together with the $10 million coming from SGGM, CMKM Diamonds is looking at potentially an influx of $22 million in cash in the near-term.

We view these commitments of cash as a tremendous vote of confidence in the value of CMKM Diamonds’ mining rights. The Green Baron Report believes that CMKM Diamonds is on the verge of releasing core drilling samples and mining data that will shock the world. The valuation of even one large dimondiferous kimberlite pipe could send CMKX stock significantly higher. Gold and other precious minerals on claims held by CMKM Diamonds and its partners are likely to increase valuation further.

Today SGGM stock rallied from .01 per share to trade as high as .12 per share. We uncovered that SGGM has 950 billion authorized shares, and it is likely that almost all of its shares are restricted. Since CMKM Diamonds is receiving 200 billion shares of restricted SGGM stock, the valuation with SGGM stock at about .05 per share is astounding. We believe it is too early to extrapolate hard valuation numbers based on this price, but we do believe it clearly indicates that CMKX’s current trading price is grossly undervalued. Just for fun though, if SGGM stock were to remain at today’s closing price of .066 per share, CMKM’s position in SGGM would be worth $13.2 billion. We’ll let you play with the math from here, but remember this deal is only for 5% of CMKM’s mineral rights, and the maximum number of shares in CMKX is 800 billion (but likely much lower).

Based on recent public releases, it appears likely that CMKM Diamonds, Inc. will reward its shareholders soon with yet another stock dividend in SGGM. Although there is no guarantee this will happen, the announcement today clearly indicates to us that CMKX stock is on the verge of a dramatic break out to the upside. The Green Baron Report will patiently await mining results from the company that we think will support our belief that CMKM Diamonds is The Stock Play of a Lifetime.

 


Posted by lbulbu on :
 
I have some money in my ameritrade account put wont be available four for days. My friend has a margin account. If I give her money can she buy shares of cmkx tomorrow and have them put in my account. would appreciate if some body could tell me thank you very much.
 
Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
lbulbu
It is NEVER good to mix friendship & business
I have seen you posting on & of for the last few weeks, which means you have read & have opportunity to be involved before now, AND you have sent money to buy. You may be regretting not acting quick enough, but that is life & life experience. My Advise is to wait for your money to clear and then buy. You could lose a friendship over this if the stock rose a lot and what you thought was yours "legally" was thiers. If this is going to be a great deal 2 days will not change that.
- - - -
Contrary to some posts; the PR does not violate a "quiet period" in that it is the "normal course" of business not "insider information regarding Corporate action!
VAN

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 02, 2004).]
 


Posted by Prdponce on :
 
Info about shell stocks. Look at number 65 in the list.
http://www.shellstockreview.com/ssrShellsByMV.htm

make sure it reads *.com on your browser
[This message has been edited by prdponce (edited September 02, 2004).]

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Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Sniff...sniff...
I can almost smell a PR sometimes.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by highwaychild:
secman,I usualy like to play on PR.I'm not out to hurt anybody.I'm just kickin' back, waiting for news.
Kick 'em when there up,kick 'em when their down...Gives 'em dirty laundry.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


sit down , shut up you got own3d
bye clown... secman

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Who are you???Little Richard???No you shut up.AAAHHHEEEEEEEEEEEE
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
OK PP
Any other ideas ?
I know it is difficult to to raise your head out of the foxhole on this board, but go ahead YOUR THOUGHTS ARE IMPORTANT
VAN
 
Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
HIGHWAY
You gotta hold it in a little. Some people aren't able to make a large deposit at the bank everyday. WE do live in a world of "Political Correctnes" I think
VAN
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
HA HA HA O.K., I'm toned down now.
But I warn anybody playing with money they can't afford to part with.Don't play pennies,Pinks,OTC,NAS,DOW.Or any other.
 
Posted by Prdponce on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
OK PP
Any other ideas ?
I know it is difficult to to raise your head out of the foxhole on this board, but go ahead YOUR THOUGHTS ARE IMPORTANT
VAN

I believe, like most, that UC will be just keep transferring value to other companies and issue those shares to us as dividends.

I posted a link some one else brought up.

[This message has been edited by prdponce (edited September 02, 2004).]
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
#34
??????????????????????????
 
Posted by shadow on :
 
Noah,

I did some research on your post.

SGGM does not appear to be in Warrenton
or at least by that name.

I checked the phone number and it is
now with Castle Capital Partners Inc
17 Horner Street, Warrenton, VA 20186
(540) 351-0003

I will stop by there on Saturday morning.
I have to get my tires rotated and oil
changed in Warrenton anyway. Will see
if they know anything about SGGM.

(Bottom-Line I do not know every company in Warrenton but I can say I have never
heard of Saint George Metals...)


quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
Warrenton, Virginia - Aug 11, 2003 - Saint George Metals (OTC: SGGM) announced today the acquisition of net branch mortgage rights from MorNorth Mortgage (OTCBB: UNCN), a publicly traded Colorado corporation. Details were not disclosed, other than that Saint George Metals will issue, in exchange, a limited number of restricted common shares to shareholders of MorNorth Mortgage.

Such shares shall be paid to shareholders of MorNorth Mortgage with a record date of Wednesday, August 6, 2003 and a payable date of Friday, August 8, 2003.
http://financialnewsusa.com/headlines/081103_sggm.html



 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
HA HA HA O.K., I'm toned down now.
But I warn anybody playing with money they can't afford to part with.Don't play pennies,Pinks,OTC,NAS,DOW.Or any other.

hi-way did it ever occur to you that ALL of our financial futures are here ( in the marlets) and that people who manipulate the stock markets to the detriment of the masses are CRIMINALS whether moral or legal in nature.....
 


Posted by Mini Me on :
 
Found this on another board.
_________________________________________


ACS.V Board of Directors

Name Position

C. Channing Buckland Director of the Board
Ronald Ross Blusson Director of the Board
Ross Owen Glanville Director of the Board
Stewart L. Blusson Director of the Board

Ronald Ross Blusson is the CEO of SGGM and on the board of directors of ACS (along with Stewart Blusson)

Stewart Blusson and Charles Fipke were the two geologists who discovered the find that led to the Ekati mine

Speculation on PalTalk now that Stewart Blusson was one of the mystery guests at the Saskatchewan meetings last month.
 


Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Glassman: ALL bashers such as Hiway are not capable of thinking on their own, they only follow scripts that are given to them, no thinking involved, just posting. The sad thing about them is that after they spend their $6.00 per hour (basher pay) he will still be here bashing while we are living high off the hog $$$$$$$$$$$. Some people will just never get it!!!!!!!!!! GO CMKX!!!!!!! Show Me The Money $$$$$$$$$$

------------------
"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Duh...ME too jack.I ain't rich but I'm in the market as well as anyone here.
I was talkin' to Van Glassman,and his reply to me.
I say you should not play with money you do not want to part with(Wanting to help people).Anticipating news can be effective.
And you turn that into whatever you want.Go ahead.Keep going.I can see right thru you Glassman.

 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
Glassman: ALL bashers such as Hiway are not capable of thinking on their own, they only follow scripts that are given to them, no thinking involved, just posting. The sad thing about them is that after they spend their $6.00 per hour (basher pay) he will still be here bashing while we are living high off the hog $$$$$$$$$$$. Some people will just never get it!!!!!!!!!! GO CMKX!!!!!!! Show Me The Money $$$$$$$$$$


Now this is funny.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
H'waychild,

"ALL bashers such as Hiway"???? Now that IS the quote of the day! LMAO

Doctoall, haven't you been following his posts re CMKX?
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Dawg gone it Wally Wall St.,Now I have to agree with you.LOL
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
HiWay: I humbly apologize for my crast comments towards your character. As I retreat to my cave to eat "crow" I also beg your forgiveness. Thanks to other CMKX family members who have called me on my comments towards another CMKXite I am in CMKX 7.6 mil at 0.0001 for the long term.

------------------
"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
HiWay: I humbly apologize for my crast comments towards your character. As I retreat to my cave to eat "crow" I also beg your forgiveness. Thanks to other CMKX family members who have called me on my comments towards another CMKXite I am in CMKX 7.6 mil at 0.0001 for the long term.


MALPRACTICE!!!(get it gman)
KIDDING.
I'm just havin' fun, havin' fun.

 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
child-way-high,

You just might end up in VAN's little CMKX green book! And, I am not about to make room for you on my page. LOL
 


Posted by brandwilliams on :
 
Do any shareholders remaining actually believe this "company" is for real....???? Or are you just stuck with a loser???
Obvious as the sky is blue and grass is green to me but am curious if there are still people who invest in the stock market, that think this is a real company...And if you do thinik this is a real company, I am curious to how long you have been investing? I ask this in regards to constantly seeing this stock at the top of the page, even though it never moves.

Brandon

 


Posted by will on :
 
child bashing again? Damnit child ! Control yourself.

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
child-way-high,

You just might end up in VAN's little CMKX green book! And, I am not about to make room for you on my page. LOL



 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Getting serious now. Do I remember someone saying or an announcement that Glenn was going to make a statement or put out a release about the meeting in Canada?
 
Posted by will on :
 
Probably just conjecture, Wallace.
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Getting serious now. Do I remember someone saying or an announcement that Glenn was going to make a statement or put out a release about the meeting in Canada?


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
2 companies now involved has a total a/s of 1.75 trillion the other 3 added together less then 200 million i think it is. the new company that just filed papers 2 weeks ago has assetts of $950 billion? and the other 4 added together in the hole a bunch of millions. i don't think hollywood could dream up this team. throw in the guy that help start canada producing 15% of the worlds diamonds (if its the same guy) made for tv all the way
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Bill,

Speaking of Hollywood, looks like you are beginning to see the picture. However, I do wish you luck. I think with the CMKX production, that is what it will take. Problem is, they will probably have to stumble over any worthwhile diamonds they find.
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
Stay long and strong Highwaychild

Notice who gets brought back from the dead when we get a PR?

Sweet dreams guys...

Hopefully my order of CMKX fills minyana!

Adios!

-John-
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
for just getting back in the market sggm is doing well up again already today.
 
Posted by thinkmoney on :
 
why is sggm doing so well and NOT cmkx? That I find odd.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
share structure i think it may have 950 billion o/s but i got a feeling not much is out in the market
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
????? ameritrade just went to .00000 ???? stopped there a moment and back
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
This is Sterlings views I picked up from another board. I believe the content justifies the length. Forgive me if it is too long for the thread.

Sterling has some interesting things to say. Although, I think he can go off on tangents at times. However, let not I tinge your opinion.

With SGGM & CMKX

I think it’s safe to say that SGGM might know something that we all don’t know. The thought is that SGGM is giving CMKX $10 Million plus 200 Billion shares because it is believed to them that they are getting a bargain for what they know. This leads me to think that the total CMKX valuation that has been proven to them is on the high side as opposed to the low side for agreement of them feeling like they are getting a discount for requesting only 5% of what’s pulled out of the claims. This means that SGGM believes that 5% is enough to make them a viable company. This is powerful to me.

On the low side of things, you got to say that since they were trading at .02 cents from reviewing their recent trading history over the past week, .02 cents is a fair number to assume where the deal was made. Still, if not, .02 cents is still a conservative price to use for calculations considering where SGGM is currently trading at.

The thought is now to view such as saying that $10 Million plus 200 Billion shares of SGGM is equivalent to 5% of the total claims of CMKX given at a discounted rate. This is our first piece of our worse case scenario. So…

200,000,000,000 x .02 = $4,000,000,000

Now add the $10 Million Cash:
$4,000,000,000 + $10,000,000 = $4,010,000,000

With doing some quick math in your head, you can find out the remaining 95% which could be considered the full value of CMKX as a minimum since we are not including any of the valuation from any of the past deals made with UCAD, CIM, or GEMM.

What you do is simply take the $4,010,000,000 and mentally double it to get to a 10% figure of $8,010,000,000. Then you simply slide the commas to the right once to get the 100% amount of the total speculative valuation. This equates to $80,100,000,000 in valuation.

With keeping with a worse case scenario concept, we can use an intrinsic value calculation indicated below with using 800 Billion as the Outstanding Shares (OS) to assume that the entire 800 Billion Authorized Shares (AS) have been issued:
(Valuation = Revenues/Equity remaining after expenses.)

Valuation χ Outstanding Shares (OS) = EPS/Book Value (Depending on usage.)

$80,100,000,000 χ 800,000,000,000 = .100125 cents

This is something that is further establishing equity into CMKX. Equity can be used as collateral for huge financial transactions to grow your company. From the speculative thoughts shown above, .10 cents EPS seems to be a conservative price of valuation determined for CMKX to not include a PE Ratio multiple for being figured into the price.

The average PE Ratio for mining companies from some old DD I remember is somewhere in the neighborhood of 25 to 30. Heck, a PE Ratio of 5 puts this calculation at .50 cents.

So even if the market don’t see the worth of CMKX just yet, I am sure that they will soon see that it is worth much more than .0003 cents which is where it have been trading as of late for a little while. The above mix and match fundamental analysis of the EPS and Book Value is used and depends on how that valuation will be used for a more finite interpretation. I will not explain that any further.

I have not had the time to research the AS or OS of SGGM, but from my initial thoughts, it is somewhere above 400 Billion shares. Someone call me and said that the State of Nevada said that the AS for SGGM was 950 Billion. I think we get the picture to see why the OS doesn’t matter here with CMKX although it is definitely important from seeing SGGM trading in the pennies. You might have to wonder how important is the Float and once the Float is gone, it’s gone. I guess what I’m trying to say is that knowing or not knowing the OS of CMKX is not going to stop what is being put in motion.

Many of the thoughts that I discussed above I’m sure have already been discussed. I just shared my thoughts in case certain minor details have not been discussed for all to be made known aware of. The SGGM PR, along with our other UCAD, CIM, and GEMM PRs, are just the prelude to a beautiful relationship between us all as CMKX shareholders in my opinion. Keep hanging tough. We are fine.


 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
Good post Ddwman...

Anyone have any Level Two's?

I have four orders trying to fill (My nephews, Myself, my parents, my brother in law) at .0003 Errrrrrrr!!!!

Anyone think I have a shot? I know .0004 would fill in about a minute but I need/want more shares...

If my order goes through I will have 3.85 Million shares

-John-
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well i think for the first time sterling does have 1/2 a point. someone paid a good size sum of money for 5% of cmkx's claims. but this also means that with the ucad deal we have given up 20% of the 25% we had to start with. that is if ucad takes the rest of that deal. I'm guessing UC is hoping they don't. but trying to put any value on cmkx is not realistic. smmg's float or o/s has got to be very small as they move too much on almost no volume sort of like ucad. the a/s may be out in space like cmkx but what is tradable in the market cant compare to cmkx or it wouldn't move either.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
sterling????? you guys are back to that crap---too bad i am too busy MAKING MONEY TODAY to bother with this drivel....



 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
Then why are you posting here if you are so busy making money? Drivel, yet you manage to find yourself here everyday
 
Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
This is Sterlings views I picked up from another board...

Valuation χ Outstanding Shares (OS) = EPS/Book Value (Depending on usage.)

$80,100,000,000 χ 800,000,000,000 = .100125 cents


I'm glad this got re-posted since I was going to reply to the original from the other page and now it's more current.

I've always had a problem with sterlings logic as I think his understanding of certain concepts is either faulty or he's deliberately misleading people. I don't have a problem with his evaluation of the possible valuation of the claims at $80b, that part seems logical at this time. But to say that based on that the EPS it .10 cents (I assume he means $.10, not $.001) is completely wrong. This is probably closer to what could be called the book value since it represents the TOTAL assets of the company minus the liabilities (considering that this valuation probably is so far larger than any other assets and liabilities to make them negligible, at least any we stockholders are aware of). I would even suggest that this "book value" should be reduced by the percentage of the claim sold to other companies because they aren't a real asset for CMKX. The web is pretty complex so I don't know how to calculate all that, but if it were, say 50%, then the "book value" should be about 5 cents. I don't know how long it takes to mine the valuation out of the claims, or the cost, so it's difficult to figure the real EPS (which is the anual profits divided by the number of shares, NOT the total valuation divided by the number of shares as sterling is wanting us to believe.)

I'll admit that I've not had time to read much past the part I've quoted but I've read other posts by sterling, so I know what the guy is about.

Bottom line is I think this guy is either a pumper (paid or not) or really knows very little about how to evaluate these things since he doesn't seem to have an understanding of some very basic concepts. I can only think he has such a large following because he tells people what they want to hear.

I'm not a CMKX basher, I own 20m shares and think this company has potential. But let's keep it real.

------------------
~,-,-< GatorMan
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by blueeyedtraderboy:
Then why are you posting here if you are so busy making money? Drivel, yet you manage to find yourself here everyday

it is byrd... look around i've posted five major runners in between my posts here in the last two weeks...LOL

i run 4 monitors and i can look at several pages here at one time if i so choose...
LOL can't post all at once tho cuz they have flood control...LOL

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited September 03, 2004).]
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
RE: Sterling and his infinite wisdom.
This is also from another board....

Many admire Sterling for his intellectual post. I will say I like reading them, and that’s about all. I hate to shoot holes through this latest one, but I’m going to run the same numbers and add to it something I believe he is not factoring. And the information comes from the research of JJSeabrooks post and is available from others sites as well. So let’s do some number crunching;

1) As of 7/23/04 the total O/S for SGGM (last recorded) is 40,000,000
2) The value of the company is $800,000 (O/S times PPS .02 of 1 week ago)
3) The NEW O/S is at least 200,040,000,000 (previous O/S plus 200 billion share dilution) and this is the best number we can come up with, we don’t know what was added between 2002 and today.
4) The speculative pps once these shares are no longer restricted is .00000399 (new o/s divided by value of the company)
5) SGGM’s new A/S is 950,000,000,000 yes….950 billion that they can put out to sell with a par value of .001.
6) Total investment made by SGGM into CMKX is 21% of total company value or $168,000 plus $10 million = $10,168,000 (200 billion divided by 950 billion = % of company CMKX now holds)
7) Total investment represents 5% of potential value of CMKX today so if 5% = $10,168,000 then 100% = $203,360,000 (without official diamonds yet).
8) So the speculative value of CMKX (without official diamonds yet) is $203,360,000.
9) The estimated pps of CMKX (with the worse case scenario of our O/S being 800 billion) is .000254.
10) Now this is WITHOUT AN OFFICIAL DIAMOND FIND ANNOUNCED YET.

Now let’s make some other assumptions;

1) If our O/S is 700 billion our speculative pps should be .0002905
2) If our O/S is 600 billion our speculative pps should be .0003389
3) If our O/S is 500 billion our speculative pps should be .0004067
4) If our O/S is 400 billion our speculative pps should be .0005084
5) If our O/S is 300 billion our speculative pps should be .0006778
6) If our O/S is 200 billion our speculative pps should be .0010168
7) If our O/S is 100 billion our speculative pps should be .0020336

We cannot use 200 billion shares times .06 (yesterdays SGGM pps) as the speculative value of SGGM. They are dilution their share structure by 200 billion shares at a minimum. They have increased their A/S from 40 million to 950 billion. If we’re going to crunch numbers, let’s remember to add the dilution of the shares. Now the inferences made are a bit more accurate.

Sorry Sterling. I don’t agree with your math. This STILL is a good thing and of course these are my opinions and should be viewed as such.

All is STILL better than well.
Mike


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
found this elsewhere was posted yesterday

Drymouth just spoke to melvin and came on with a drill report. Yesterday they were at approx. 375 ft. and had just drilled through a "seem" of pressure olivine material. Expected to find kimberlite just beyond that. Well they did! This of course is being verified right now with the geologist.

They hit kimberlite at approx 437 ft. Currently they are at 675 ft. and STILL IN KIMBERLITE! Basically we're looking at a kimberlite pipe that is (currently being verified by geologist)................

8 miles x 5 miles or 40 SQUARE MILES OF KIMBERLITE

Urban flew up to the drill site to see it.

 


Posted by dwman on :
 
tic-toc
What am I missing in that number crunching? How does he come up with .00000399 for the speculative pps?
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
Disregard...
He just stated his equation wrong.
 
Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Hi Don, He is valuing the company at 203 Million Dollars with 800 Billion shares so he should have come up with a number under .0003.

I think the valuation for the 5% of CMKX is the $10 Million cash, plus the value of the SGGM shell and whatever mining ventures already are in it, plus the management and their experience and access to cash, plus about .0125% of CMKX still retained since we own about 1/4 of the A/S. Kind of hard to put a number on. We will have that number when Roger and UC fully disclose and file for CMKX. I have every reason to believe that Roger Glenn will do what he said he will do. Roger Glenn was in Canada for a week and I doubt it was for the announcement we had yesterday. That may be a small part of it. I am looking for more (and most people are).

The number of SGGM shares almost mirror CMKX. 200 Billion could be the O/S and 950 Billion is more than our A/S. This could end up being a vehicle for CMKX to use for a 1:1 dividend or move into and leave the shorts behind with the CMKX shell if litigation or a court ordered settlement is necessary.
IMO-Debi
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 

Glassman,

Allstocks cliams another victim.
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Hi Debi
Thanks. Check is on the way. LOL I got so wrapped up in watching this stock, I forgot.
Don
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
Fidelity shows a high of .004... I presume that is fat fingers again.
 
Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
Debi,

Interesting thoughts on your last statement

also there are like three boards on the pro b oards websites for CMKX, I list my link to the main one I post at,lol.. could you do me a favor and post it for me? Thanks in advance

I bought some more shares today, not a whole lot but it bumps me upto 3.85 or so Million...

My eight year old nephew is the proud owner of 112k shares!!! Hehehe...

-John-
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
when trying to figure value of cmkx from the smmg deal the shares can be listed as assets and yes it does equate into cmkx value but as they are restricted and thus not in the float their real value can not be set. you also have to consider that this 10 million is for 25% of what cmkx has which is not 25% of the total rights as some were sold to ucad and still that number can change as ucad can still exersice its rights to buy more, they had 1 yr. that does increase to value smmg put on these claims. the final value of these claims will effect cmkx's value but the only number that will have any real effect on the pps is how much they ultimately dig out of the ground each yr. the claims value could be 10 trillion who knows but if they only mine 10 million per yr the pps will reflect that. this is why so many in here realize that our o/s kills our pps. if you look at our canadian partners, they have total floats of 2 to 3 million shares and thus pps's of .10 to .20 and they own a full 25% not a cut up 25%. cmkx's pps is right where it should be based on the o/s, naked shorted or not.
 
Posted by ali on :
 
Melvin on paltalk...he just played "we will rock you song...

Well then lets rock n roll CMKX



 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ali:
Melvin on paltalk...he just played "we will rock you song...

Well then lets rock n roll CMKX



i still hear "The Song Remains The Same" ...LOL

good luck

 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i thought uncle mel said he wasn't going back on paltalk last week? when the a/s was raised to 800 billion.
 
Posted by JOED5500 on :
 
I just got in and checked out CMKX...my sell order for 1 mill @ .0004 went thru...after 1 week...any one else able to sell some...I still have 2 , so hoping for the best..gogogo....happy holidays to all...

------------------
Ciao! Good Luck!!
 


Posted by Whetstone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JOED5500:
I just got in and checked out CMKX...my sell order for 1 mill @ .0004 went thru...after 1 week...any one else able to sell some...I still have 2 , so hoping for the best..gogogo....happy holidays to all...


JOED... that is the most baffling strategy I've seen in a while. Good luck with it.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Is "Rock" a play on words, a subliminal hint at diamonds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Where are all the Harry Chrishnas when you need a mind bender deciphered??

Have a great weekend everyone.


PS I want all you Bashers converted by Tuesday. When I get back I want Glassman singing

C-M-K-X Rocks You



 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Caught between a rock...and a hard place.
Rollin' Stones
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
Is "Rock" a play on words, a subliminal hint at diamonds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Where are all the Harry Chrishnas when you need a mind bender deciphered??

Have a great weekend everyone.


PS I want all you Bashers converted by Tuesday. When I get back I want Glassman singing

C-M-K-X Rocks You


find a couple diamonds and you can split them 800,000,000,000 ways..LOL
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Canuck
Administrator
Reverse merging into SGGM?
« Thread started on: Today at 5:37pm »

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
First is appears as if SGGM has been removed from the list as a shell company.
http://www.shellstockreview.com/

Then on the alert page I found a blurb regarding the recent SGGM activity so they were on the list at one point, some say as recent as yesterday. Things are getting interesting. I do not see SGGM on their site as a shell yet they make mention of it here.

Here is the link to the alert. Make note of the disclaimer on the top of the page.
http://www.shellstockreview.com/ssrAlerts.htm

"Alerts on Profiled Shells Stocks are not intended as an indicator to purchase/sell the stock. They are intended to inform users that a Shell Stock has issued a public announcement of an attempted/completed reverse merger."

"Attempted/completed reverse merger"? hmmmm....

The interesting part is if you scroll down the page and take note, almost all the other alerts are reverse mergers. Odd eh?


 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Noah, would you agree that in view of the planned end of Oct Las Vegas party, an end to this thing may occur by then?
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
Noah, would you agree that in view of the planned end of Oct Las Vegas party, an end to this thing may occur by then?

dw, I was hoping we would have had some directional news by today because of Urban's talk about Indy being more exciting than the Law Vegas party.

Now I understand that something coming out of the drill site has caused Urban to make an urgent trip to the site, and he may miss Indy. If he misses the "big race" of the year for a muddy drill site, I suspect that something pretty big is going on up there.

Other things that may have put a hold on the "big" Indy news, could just be sceheduling problems. Since Urban made the Indy statement, he has had a stroke, and had to put off the Sask meeting.

All in all, st the risk of giving the bashers even more ammunition, I have had some doubts due to the delay. Not enough to get me to sell yet though.

It looks like the key dates, are Sept 24 and Oct 1. If the MM's are squeezed, they could naked short UCAD to put shares in our account, but they cannot "create" CIM shares out of the air. Therefore, by Oct 1 when our CIM is due, something has to happen.

I'll have to wait for that before I would consider selling any shares. I also think we're going to see some SGGM shares come our way by dividend and/or merger.

Some accuse me of being a "pumper" of this stock because I bring DD and opinions here that are positive. Well, "guilty" of bringing positive information, but I'm not a pumper. There just aren't many people posting negative on the boards that I visit. I don't gain anything more than anyone else from this stock. I have a small investment in it, much bought at .0001 back in Feb. All I have, like many of you, is dreams that this stock will take off and pay well. If I am wrong about this stock, I along with most of the longs will lose a little money. It will only be a little because that's all I have invested. If I am wrong about bringing positive opinion to this board, then some other people may lose a little money. But the reason I bump heads with the bashers so frequently is that if they are wrong, many people who sell too early will lose their dreams. And that's a much bigger loss.


[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 03, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 03, 2004).]
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
Some accuse me of being a "pumper" of this stock because I bring DD and opinions here that are positive. Well, "guilty" of bringing positive information, but I'm not a pumper. There just isn't many people posting negative on the boards that I visit. I don't gain anything more than anyone else from this stock. I have a small investment in it, much bought at .0001 back in Feb. All I have, like many of you, is dreams that this stock will take off and pay well. If I am wrong about this stock, I along with most of the longs will lose a little money. It will only be a little because that's all I have invested. If I am wrong about bringing positive opinion to this board, then some other people may lose a little money. But the reason I bump heads with the bashers so frequently is that if they are wrong, many people who sell too early will lose their dreams. And that's a much bigger loss

i try to accept people at face value ...
if this is true then i offer you a sincere apology for a few of the things i have said to you.(but not you byrd...LOL) i realise i was not the first to come along and be harsh. i encourage you to look around at some other stocks ALSO.....not to nessecarily exclude this one but expand your holdings...there are a lot of strange things that go on in the pennies...this one is more than strange tho, its BIZZARRE...LOL
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
noah...they can not naked short or get the ucad shares in any way. they can not even buy them in the open market...they are restricted shares thus totally differant from common shares. the brokers know they can only arrive from ucad's t/a. it is done electronicly but the brokers will know the differance between them and common. i got this right from ameritrade. there is no way mm's can cover the ucad shares.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
as i've said before i dont think its shorted the o/s is way too high but the differance between the ucad & cim split bothers me. i was thinking maybe UC cut the dividend amount in half that would equal out the numbers. instead of 40 it is 20 billion. maybe it was done in another deal. instead os 40 billion cim we get 20 and shares of a differant company making up the other 20. just guessing but something is causing twice the o/s for the cim split.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman

i try to accept people at face value ...
if this is true then i offer you a sincere apology for a few of the things i have said to you.(but not you byrd...LOL) i realise i was not the first to come along and be harsh. i encourage you to look around at some other stocks ALSO.....not to nessecarily exclude this one but expand your holdings...there are a lot of strange things that go on in the pennies...this one is more than strange tho, its BIZZARRE...LOL[/B]


Thanks glass, I don't hold anything against you. First, I didn't know you considered yourself a basher. LOL You have your doubts about this stock, and that's fine. You normally back them up with good reasoning or DD. I don't evenn have any hard feelings against rchaud98, or whatever alias he is going by today. He's just a child that was obviously raised by Dr. Spock principles. The rest of the bashers just make me laugh.

I don't know why you think I should get in other stocks. I have invested in many stocks since I started in Jamuary, and have had surprising success in most of them. You just don't find me on the other threads very much, because I tend to be a lurker. I listen, learn and take my best shot. But I got involved in this one, because it carried the best opportunity at bringing the greatest return on a small investment. Until this one, I had mostly day or swing traded my stocks, with a few big board stocks that I hold protectively.

 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Take this post from another board with multiple grains of salt. But it is interesting. A caller from the racetrack:


Daves call, 6:30pm est. Friday

Dave has spoke to the Market Maker that is there.
The MM told Dave that JEFF is a known shorter of CMKX and that the other MM's are really pissed at JEFF.
MM said that NO WAY is UC working deals with JEFF in any way shape or form!!
MM stated that it is very possible for people to have the UCAD shares in there accounts from the dividend as has been reported.
MM suggested buying UCAD, that they expect it to be big.
Dave mentioned the party in Vegas, MM stated that he doesn't think we will have a problem with money by then.
*********************************************
OK, this is a quote, Dave was given the MM's permission to quote him......."CMKX shareholders will be real happy by Tuesday".
*********************************************
Tom

 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
More from the track caller.


Daves call, 8:00 est Friday,

The CEO of UCAD and Sterling will be at the races Sat. and Sun.
Cris from UCAD confirmed that Urban is at the drill site and will not be at the races. Her comment to Dave was, It must be something really big for Urban to miss the races!!!


 


Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Hi Everyone, Have a great weekend. -Debi

[This message has been edited by WWJD-thru-me (edited September 04, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Last word from Dave tonight, Urban is going to do his best to be at the races on Sunday. Ron says that we still have the rest of the samples from the Carolyn pipe in storage. Ed, from the green Baron does not think we will hear any news until after Tuesday, but he does feel that we can make plans for a party in Vegas.
Jeff Arend spun his tires, but has 3 more chances to qualify, Connie had Transmission problems on the cycle.

PLEASE REMEMBER, WHAT YOU ARE READING ON THIS THREAD IS JUST OPINIONS AND SHOULD BE TREATED AS SUCH!!!!

TOM

 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
Debi reedit your message so that the email is spaced so it doesn't get spammed, please!
 
Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
Yes I bought today as well, buying at .0004 (I missed .0003 by a day, my money cleared, then at 9:30am we get the PR! LOLOLOL!!!)

So I missed out on extra shares However I am in and I fear some sort of PR or news this weekend!!!!

I rather be in then be out totally!

-John-
 


Posted by md on :
 
Detailed Quote for Friday, September 03, 2004 6:41 PM
Company Name: Cmkm Diamond Inc
Dow Jones Industry: Not Available
Exchange: OTHER OTC
Shares Outstanding: 684,448,000
Market Cap: 273,779
Short Interest: Exchange provides no short interest data.
52-Week EPS: n/a
52-Week High: 0.009 on Tuesday, April 27, 2004
52-Week Low: 0.00005 on Friday, September 05, 2003
P/E Ratio: n/a
Yield: n/a
Average Price: 0.0004 (50-day) 0.0002 (200-day)
Average Volume: 2,246,510,000 (50-day) 1,911,770,100 (200-day)


How come they show an Outstanding Share amount? I thought we didn't know this?
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
that is the o/s from over a yr ago. right now we dont know the o/s otc bb has it at 800 billion
 
Posted by shadow on :
 

I will try to proceed with the inspection
of the records.

I will confirm through the Nevada State SEC
that my purposes will be in line with the
intent of the law. (It is not my intent
to provide a list of stock holders... but
I would like to undertand the ownership
within the company. Brian had said that
there were some 40,000 sharholders...
(* this was off the cuff - on his part *)

I was asking for information and to inspect
the records - We had a discussion regarding
the SEC - He said something along the lines
of 40,000 Shareholders and not holding up the business of the company.

On Monday I intend to contact the Canadian
Government regarding Mineral Rights in our
area.

The person to contact is...

Mineral Ownership Yash Bhasin (306) 787-2536
Mineral Rights Information Yash Bhasin (306) 787-2536
Mineral Rights Tax Yash Bhasin (306) 787-2536


NRS 78.107 Denial of request for inspection of records; defense to action for penalties or damages; authority of court to compel production of records.

1. An inspection authorized by NRS 78.105 may be denied to a stockholder or other person upon his refusal to furnish to the corporation an affidavit that the inspection is not desired for a purpose which is in the interest of a business or object other than the business of the corporation and that he has not at any time sold or offered for sale any list of stockholders of any domestic or foreign corporation or aided or abetted any person in procuring any such record of stockholders for any such purpose.

2. It is a defense to any action for penalties or damages under NRS 78.105 that the person suing has at any time sold, or offered for sale, any list of stockholders of the corporation, or any other corporation, or has aided or abetted any person in procuring any such stock list for any such purpose, or that the person suing desired inspection for a purpose which is in the interest of a business or object other than the business of the corporation.

3. This section does not impair the power or jurisdiction of any court to compel the production for examination of the books of a corporation in any proper case.

(Added to NRS by 1997, 693)

 


Posted by Replay2x on :
 
Drymouth from Paltalk: http://www.istwara.com/drymouth.mp3
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Synopsis of the race RUMORS

By: river321
04 Sep 2004, 10:47 AM EDT
Msg. 522975 of 522998
Jump to msg. #
Indy Race Rumors

I was in Sterling's classroom last night (or early this morn, Sept.4) and Drymouth relayed these rumors after talking on the phone to ElCamino(Jose) and Hybrid(?).

1. 45,000 CMKX shareholders
2. Stopped drilling Thurs. because they found what they were looking for.
3. Valuation over $1 trillion to be released soon.
4. Cash dividend still on its way to us.
5. Carolyn Pipe drill bit chewed up by diamonds.
6. UCAD shares to become unrestricted soon.
7. CMKX moving to otcbb.
8. We will be happy by Tues.

We have to keep in mind that these are RUMORS and should take anything other than a company PR with a grain of salt.

But, if these turn out to be true, GOOD LORD, this definitely IS the stock play of a lifetime!!!
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKX&read=522975


 


Posted by will on :
 
Just hope they're true. However I won't get my hopes up. Just remember Mt. St. Helen. Now a different is source is being used to leak inuendo. No official word, yet.
I will be happy when I'm officially happy.

[This message has been edited by will (edited September 04, 2004).]
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 

Cmkx has taught me a really cool trait...

Patience...

Tuesday is just around that corner!


If the rumors are correct this byrd will be FLYING to Vegas!

-A byrd is just a byrd by anyother word-

 


Posted by will on :
 
"""IF"""
 
Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Will wrote: Just hope they're true. However I won't get my hopes up. Just remember Mt. St. Helen. Now a different is source is being used to leak inuendo. No official word, yet.
I will be happy when I'm officially happy.
---------------------------------------------
Great Post Will!!!

Hi Everyone, Here is a post on what Zen has to say and I think all should agree.

What zeninvestor sez:

Something else to read. (Race rumors)

We went through all this with Denver before. There were a dozen rumors swirling based on what people were hearing at the races AND NOT ONE OF THEM CAME TRUE. So please. Seriously. Let Roger do his thing and set your expectations at "we'll know more in due time" and not at "I will be rich by Tuesday". I have to say that the whole "our drill broke because we hit diamonds" thing sounds EXACTLY like the kind of BS rumor that starts flailing around because Ron or someone else said "We're happy with our progress in drilling" with a smile and someone went off the deep end in interpreting that. It all just sounds silly and I would caution everyone JUST AS I DID WITH DENVER that posting crap like that is unhealthy for everyone. If it is true, then let it unfold. Otherwise, it is a huge set-up for disappointment. I believe this will be huge but as soon as people start stating "Tuesday for sure" then I pretty much KNOW it won't be Tuesday. Chill out and enjoy your Labor Day weekend. Be thankful you're not in Frances' downpour. There were many weekends in the past few months where everyone expected complete and total victory by the next trading day and they did not eat, sleep or move, and were glued to their computer. And guess what? The stock opened at .0004 and stayed there all week.

The bottom line is we don't know when any big news will hit and the races have already PROVEN to be a festering breeding ground for false rumors. I implore you to PLEASE enjoy your weekend and set your expectations at "soon" and not "tuesday".


Z
---------------------------------------------
I have no clue as to whether the drill bits got chewed by diamonds or not. So until it is in a PR it does make an interesting read but it is just a rumor and not something to buy stock on. We have enough great reasons to buy CMKX without relying on rumors.
IMO-God Bless-Have a safe, fun weekend-Debi
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 

I won't cry if we don't fly on Tuesday...

I am greedy and want more shares! Lol!

And who ever wrote ""IF"" You are right, that is a Noteoriously B I G ""IF""

-A byrds breath is worth its weight in Diamonds-
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
Debi thanks for the email

-Stuck in a byrd cage-
 


Posted by trgfunds on :
 
Are we supposed to have the UCAD dividend in our accounts already? Are some people saying they have it? I thought the payout day was 9/24.. I don't know about you guys but I don't have mine yet...
 
Posted by mondayschild on :
 
have no clue as to whether the drill bits got chewed by diamonds or not. So until it is in a PR it does make an interesting read but it is just a rumor and not something to buy stock on. We have enough great reasons to buy CMKX without relying on rumors.
IMO-God Bless-Have a safe, fun weekend-Debi


I'm not saying if this is the truth or not, but from past experience(dated a core driller for over ten years), many things can cause a diamond drill bit to be damaged. Limestone ,shell rock, and iron being the worst....I'm sure some things could be even worse than those, but the person I dated did not drill for any resource other than coal. However, when the bit became worn out, the drilling stopped for a time until another bit was available. Most companies do not keep those on hand and order them as needed because those bits are very expensive and some have to be custom made.

GLTA

Janie
 


Posted by secman on :
 
http://web.njit.edu/~rc28/cmkx/drymouth.mp3


there's a link to the mp3 of what whipped everything back up ...

for nostalgia's sake here's a recording of the last race: http://web.njit.edu/~rc28/cmkx/cmkx_plan.mp3
 


Posted by Spike3333 on :
 
I have asked a question like this before but I am still confused. Someone said something about getting dividends from stocks linked with CMKX. What are those stocks and when and how much dividend would I be getting from them. I have owned CMKX since about April and have yet to see a dividend. I know this is stupid, I guess Im just a little slow...
 
Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
You should go consult the past Press Releases, real quick, go to Yahoo Finances, then type cmkx.pk into the search stock area, then when cmkx quote loads up, read the news releases at the bottom of the page that should have the Press releases up until June 1st or so... I hope this helps.

-John-
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
SPIKE
Be patient you have received a dividend 8/20; 8/31; another 9/24. When I said patient I meant now that you know this and the "pay outs" will be in the future starting in Oct/04; in restricted shares. THIS IS NOT A DAYTRADING STOCK!
Good Luck
VAN

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 04, 2004).]
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
CMKX - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Common Stock

Declaration Date:

-- Ex Date:

-- Record Date:

08/20/2004 Payment Date:

09/24/2004
Dividend Type:

Stock Div. payable in another company Dividend Amount:

+stk
Notes:

Refer to the D/L of 8/2/2004, Rate revised by Co. +.00000962 of a restricted share of US Canadian Minerals Inc (OTCBB: UCAD) for each share held. Will not be quoted Ex.


CMKX - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Common Stock

Declaration Date:

-- Ex Date:

-- Record Date:

08/31/2004 Payment Date:

10/01/2004
Dividend Type:

Stock Div. payable in another company Dividend Amount:

+stk
Notes:

Refer to the D/L of 8/23/2004, Rate revised by Co. .0256 of a restricted share of Casavant International Mining for each share held. Will not be quoted Ex.



 


Posted by glassman on :
 
hey Mondays Child nice to see ya, benn awhile....

ZEN is SOOOOO right....

if i miss out on this one, it will be because i have seen toooo much wolf crying....

good luck...
 


Posted by mondayschild on :
 
Hey Glass!!!


Don't know who Zen is. I don't know much about any of this either, not anymore. I just know a little something about core drilling and thought I would pass it on.

I've been watching NEOP...very interesting. I'm still in QBID. Been in and out of CLSI, HEXS, and OMOG a couple of times. Currently researching MLON. Still hate the market makers most of the time, but not all of the time LOL. How have you been?

Janie

quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
hey Mondays Child nice to see ya, benn awhile....

ZEN is SOOOOO right....

if i miss out on this one, it will be because i have seen toooo much wolf crying....

good luck...



 


Posted by glassman on :
 
busy as heck...moved out of tornado alley...i'm now living in the Mississipi delta.....nice folks, good food....don't need my snow shovels..LOL
got a long list of picks that will go up...SOMEDAY..LOL
 
Posted by mondayschild on :
 
Drop us a line if you see anything interesting.

Most of the investors on the talk shows have talked about investing in basic materials and resources as opposed to tech, because of the upcoming election mainly.

I have a few mutual funds that have done OK lately...but I sure wish it was better than OK...LOL.

Glad the move went well for you. Good luck to you.

Janie

quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
busy as heck...moved out of tornado alley...i'm now living in the Mississipi delta.....nice folks, good food....don't need my snow shovels..LOL
got a long list of picks that will go up...SOMEDAY..LOL

[This message has been edited by mondayschild (edited September 04, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Latest RUMORS from the track.

LUCY_N_DA_SKY1:
denverboy57: FROM OGGIE LIVE: (Had breakfast with Rendal Williams/head of UCAD)
-Largest mineral deposit in world (unknown) has to do with ending in IUM. High dollar mineral
- UCAD mining gold and silver in ecudor someone at UCAD taking over direction of company, and IR from Melvin
-Will process gold ore out of Vegas plant
- 2 + carets per ton
- Diamond play of the world
- reason Rendall working with Urban is UC has what he wants
- cant think of
- don’t need to do anything with it, gold and silver will store in safe deposit box establishes relationship with bank
- 2000 shareholders right now 10,000 share holders at party
- tour of gold plant in vegas
- sees stock running to 25.00 pps, 3 for 1 split let it run up again
- We have th honey hole and gonna go crazy
- drilling stopped Thursday had a great find
- large valuation for company. (Trillion or more)
- Only possible negitive if problem UC wants to do it all has trouble delegating authority
- Stock moving Tuesday
- Rendal: stock could move to 1 - 2 cents by Tuesday
- Rendal: wants everyone to be in Vegas, things to happen to make you want to be in Vegas
- SGGM is anticipated that 2 brothers in middle,
- Elcamino said largest mineral in world still not identified They asked about 3-4 minerals not the right one
- processing 300 oz of gold a day and 200 oz of silver a day ship to vegas in slurry to process will charge 30% to 50% for processing base on quality
- has gold mine In Brazil as well (UCAD)
- news soon soon sooner then you can imagine
- shareholders to receive letter pretty soon
- Tunderbird fly over lots of entertainers in Vegas

FWIW until a PR
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
More RUMOR from the track at Paltalk:

Here's another post from Paltalk with additional details below. Sugarpaw

Oogie called and spoke through drymouth..

In Canada they have worlds largest deposit with letters ium which is high dollar per Elcamino

Rendall is into big things. He said Ucad Attorney is also Roger, he and Roger will make sure good things happen with UC. UC is getting rid of Melvin and get a professional IR person.

Gold Mining is going on in Equidor, they own property land and mineral rights. Gold and Silver from there will be sent to Vegas processing plant. Also companies with ore can come to Rendal to seperate gold from ore in vegas. If he likes them he will charge 30% and if not, 50%. There are not many processing plants so he can do that.

Rendal has diamond find in Brazil which is former Debeers property they lost and he took over but doesn't have time to mess with it now.

Diamond play of world is in Canada. Rendal seeked out Urban because he has what he wants.

His plan is to keep splittig UCAD everytime it goes to $25.00 back to 7.00 over and over again.

Rendal said these companies are stock play of lifetime.

Party in Vegas bigger than antiipated 10,000 people at party.

News is coming sooner than you can imagine. We will have money before Vegas. Oogie didn't know exactly what way we are getting it. Things are happening that will make you want to be in Vegas before the party. A Kernal is going to fly a thunderbird at party. A lot of entertainers lined up.

He is in constant touch with UC. UC needs to learn how to delegate work more instead of doing everything himself. UC needs to get two people to help management. Valuation is trillion or more.

2 brothers with a lot of money are in the middle of all of this. He did not get their names.

 


Posted by glassman on :
 
Melvin
-Will process gold ore out of Vegas plant
- 2 + carets per ton
- Diamond play of the world
- reason Rendall working with Urban is UC has what he wants
- cant think of
- don’t need to do anything with it, gold and silver will store in safe deposit box establishes relationship with bank


i think calling this a rumor is good, since gold ore values are presented as OUNCES per ton...LOL carats are a lot smaller and if this was true the mine would be WORTHLESS
 


Posted by Grasshopper on :
 
Glass, I would think the line about the gold and then the one about the 2+ carats were completely separate thoughts. Look at the following line...he starts talking about diamonds again. Not that I put much credence in the rumors! Sounds pretty nice, but I'll believe it when I read it in an official PR.

Hi all, I'm just sitting in Florida trying to wait out Frances. Wish it would move through quicker! Fortunately, I won't catch the worst of it....


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
good luck with Frances Grasshopper,
i figgered that tooo, BUT i stll wonder how on earth they are going to make money shipping ORE to Nevada from south america.....
 
Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
GLASSMAN
I agree with GRASSHOPPER
It appears to me some of what he said tracks with UCAD/ECPN/JMML; other things were CMKX related. Isn't that the way rumors go? I will give the interviewer the benefit of not being a professional reporter.
VAN
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
Maybe we are supposed to be happy on tuesday, because the race car is going to win the race. lol
just my opinion

 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
You know how rumors go,when facts go from one person to another,it's one thing.When it goes from one person to another and another, ect. stories tend to get misconstrued.
I'm not getting my hopes up.
That way I can't be let down.
I do hope at least there is a good basis.
 
Posted by cndboy on :
 
1/20th of these rumours are true i'll be happY.... lol
 
Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
My young Grasshopper ,

He who is wise will let a storm come to him...

You have been taught well my Green friend.

I wish you the best of luck with this storm, however this Grasshopper needs no luck! lol!

-John-
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
I thaught I bring this up becasue of this crazy rumor that is going on - wasn't a Sparki a while ago (can't find the posting though) was predicting that on Sept 7 we are getting news - he might be right or he is getting close but lets just wait until Tuesday!

PS .....some time wonder who is behind the curtins when you interact on the forums....

..hey byrd you been good lately to your fellow police and us here (moon story still makes me laugh .

------------------
'Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much.' - Helen Keller
 


Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
What is the link to that moon thing?
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Here's a pretty good site with alot of info.

http://www.saskmining.ca/photoLib.html
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 

Ahhh Wizardress, the lovely Wizardress

Thanks for the support! hehe...

I am not sure as to the rumor you are refering to as there are so many, lol...

Tuesday seems to be on everyone's radar screens so who knows... I guess I will have to be at work early so I catch anything that happens...


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Well now ,so far, it seemes that most of the rumors floting around were just rumors.
The one I heard about CMKX moving to OTC.bb ,sometime this year, seems to be the only one holding any water now.
Also the rumor UCAD is to move to AMEX is still floating around.
Maybe Drymouth was on opIUM when he came up with all of these RUMORS.

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited September 06, 2004).]
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
it seems to me that this is at least the second 3 day weekend in a row that rumors had some great news pr coming tues. it would be nice and we are at least due some explanation about the increase in a/s & o/s to 800 billion. results about the lastest drill site are not possible, remember carolyn and what was said they saw in the core samples that turned out to be 2 flecks. i'm sure from what was said they saw the sample tested was not the bad one. its possible something great has or is about to happen and lets hope it has something to do with not having a 800 billion o/s.
 
Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by blueeyedtraderboy:
My young Grasshopper ,

LOL. That line reminds of a line from a movie. Which one is it? Come on, this is killing me!

Seems like the usual rumor kitchens are all open this weekend and dishing up pot after pot of BS; I don't believe any of it until I see it in an official PR. I do like the fact that Urban is not at the races, however - I would think only something very important would make him miss Indy.

I've been "leaning back" a bit not trying to get involved too much. There have not been any bashers on lately, so no need for the police force to leave the precinct .

[This message has been edited by Money_Penny (edited September 06, 2004).]
 


Posted by secman on :
 
http://web.njit.edu/~rc28/cmkx/oogie.mp3


treat this as a rumer from paltalk

drilling has stop,because they found what they want.

value is over a trillion

drill was broken on the caroling,cause it hit a pack of diamonds

the restrick will be lifed on the ucad shares.

good news on or before tues.

this is the rumer that is going on at the races.Wait for the PR,but this is going on now at the races.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=3963796


In my humble opinion .01 to .02 by tuesday is impossible and BS
 


Posted by secman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
it seems to me that this is at least the second 3 day weekend in a row that rumors had some great news pr coming tues. it would be nice and we are at least due some explanation about the increase in a/s & o/s to 800 billion. results about the lastest drill site are not possible, remember carolyn and what was said they saw in the core samples that turned out to be 2 flecks. i'm sure from what was said they saw the sample tested was not the bad one. its possible something great has or is about to happen and lets hope it has something to do with not having a 800 billion o/s.

correction 800 billion a/s .. 800 billion o/s would have the sec all over this thing
 


Posted by secman on :
 
Rumor has it Melvin has been fired and someone from UCAD is taking over IR.
 
Posted by darrenbaker on :
 
Take a look at this. http://www.freedomvillageusa.com
Helping kids.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i think melvin is too honest to be in IR. he lets his emotions run his mouth. in his attempt to inform he does it off the cuff. in IR you need to lie without lying so to speak. you can't misinform but you can't be completely honest. it causes rumors & too much speculation which hurts in the long run. i dont think melvin would do anything to hurt cmkx or a single shareholder on purpose. if he is gone i hope he was well taken care of by UC
 
Posted by COACHPHILM63 on :
 
Wax on,Wax off

Karate kid.
 


Posted by will on :
 
I doubt very much he had anything to do with the content of the PR's. He probably just signed some. His shortcoming, is/was, running his mouth and misleading people. After the UCAD PR detailing the size of the two diamonds found, and his Mt. St. Helen comment, how coud he recover from that. The "I wish I could tell what's on my desk" statement, was more of the same. The guy just isn't/wasn't credible to me.

quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
i think melvin is too honest to be in IR. he lets his emotions run his mouth. in his attempt to inform he does it off the cuff. in IR you need to lie without lying so to speak. you can't misinform but you can't be completely honest. it causes rumors & too much speculation which hurts in the long run. i dont think melvin would do anything to hurt cmkx or a single shareholder on purpose. if he is gone i hope he was well taken care of by UC


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
LARGE crowd at Indy.Got a buddy there,He's not in the market,into racing.Called me from there,said he got me a CMKX-treme t-shirt.
Hope Jeff Arend can get past the first round at least.Alot of eyes would be on CMKX.

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited September 06, 2004).]
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Dang it!Pedergons are tough to beat.Close race though.
 
Posted by Jeffrey on :
 
Hi everyone, Can somebody tell me what the password is for the sterling Room on paltalk. Can't get in without it.

Thanks!
 


Posted by DiQuiRiesco on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by secman:
http://web.njit.edu/~rc28/cmkx/oogie.mp3


treat this as a rumer from paltalk

drilling has stop,because they found what they want.

value is over a trillion

drill was broken on the caroling,cause it hit a pack of diamonds

the restrick will be lifed on the ucad shares.

good news on or before tues.

this is the rumer that is going on at the races.Wait for the PR,but this is going on now at the races.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=3963796


In my humble opinion .01 to .02 by tuesday is impossible and BS



This is quite possibly the most idiotic thing I have read on all ten thousand CMKI/CMKM/CMKX threads. Cudos to you


 


Posted by cndboy on :
 
Got to admit when it gets borring reading these threads is a good pass time.
 
Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Happy Labor Day Everyone,

I am expecting us to get some good
news soon although I don't know what it will be. Lots of possibilities with this stock. I bougth more Friday anticipating news and will still be buying if the price is the same. I thought this post is pretty good in trying ot reign in some the palladium and uranium and other ium rumors. IMO-DLTA-Debi

IUM is BSium...and other falsehoods.

Thanks goes to Investingisfun on Sterling's board. Link below. :-) Sugarpaw

Okay, coming from two guys on Paltalk who were at the races and talked with Williams. They are makememoney and Hybrid1, I know the guys on the board were more familiar with them than me.

The 'ium' story is apparently something some guy elcaminobob carried forward but was not the originator. It's believed that it was just a story that got out of hand.

Williams did NOT say CMKX will be 1 to 2 cents on Tuesday. What he did say was that with the right news, CMKX could hit 1 to 2 cents. The rumor about a PR for Tuesday to take us there is pure BS.

Williams did confirmed that UCAD has been accepted to AMEX and would be there within 60 days. Also confirmed was that CMKX has applied and most likely will be on the OTC before the end of the year.

Cash divy rumor 'soon' is BS. Maybe much later but nothing planned at this point in time.

That's all that's important to comment so other than UCAD going to AMEX and CMKX to the OTC, everything else is BS and proven to be BS.

SOON apparently changes form, definition and doesn't pay attention to time.
http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=77534\


More um, stuff. Drilling did stop at the Carloyn Pipe due to a broken drill bit. The rigg did break at the present drill location a few weeks again and it had something to do with the flywheel or like part of the tranny. It's been doing fine for the last three weeks. Drilling has resumed also.

UC is looking to buy two more drill riggs and phxgold got it confirmed tonight that our JV's do not have drill riggs. We are alone.

Rendall did NOT say Melvin was going to be fired. Rendall said that CMKX could use changes to its IR department as it will need professional people.
http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=77537


 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
WWJD/Debi,

You remember SECMAN right? He was pretty much not into this stock and thought it was a bad investment right? I am thinking of SECMAN correctly when I remember he posted on here, at various times, denouncing CMKX as a 'good' (whatever that means) investment...

I ask because I saw his name pop up on another CMKX board, however this person seems to now be an owner of CMKX... Secman is a pretty orginal screen name and I have only seen it used by one person, not even screen names remotely like it, like 'secman12' or anything like that...

I am just trying to remember if the Secman here was against this stock thats all...

-John-
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
i am no lawyer but my understanding of SEC rules would be that POSTING this and releasing this in this way would DISQUALIFY UCAD from being accepted....

Williams did confirmed that UCAD has been accepted to AMEX and would be there within 60 days. Also confirmed was that CMKX has applied and most likely will be on the OTC before the end of the year.

i have followed many stocks to the AMEX--this is not how biz is done at the AMEX....

watch out!!!!!!

 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
GLASS
I think also this would violate the rules, certainly seems aimed at sell stock tomorrow.
It also make me wonder about RG letting it happen, I would expect RG to withdraw.
VAN
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Also, the AMEX requires a record of positive earnings which UCAD does not have.

I did notice that CMKX was "listed" on the walls of a "pit" stop out in the Death Valley Desert. LOL

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 06, 2004).]
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
Wallace, did you go to Burning Man???
 
Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 

Wallace is one very informed geriatric if he knows about The Burning Man...

-Byrds The Word Now-
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Glass,

LOL No, Burning Man is not my kind of thing.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Haven't been on the boards much this weekend. Had a great time with family. Watched for Urban to show at the race, and I guess he never did. So I didn't go. Noticed all the rumors and reposted them here, but don't necessarily believe any of them until we see a PR.

Dib have a friend from another board that was there, and he said not to believe the rumors, that's all they are.

But, I think we are getting closer to finally see something happening on PPS and should know the OS or float by the end of the month.

Good trading tomorrow to everyone.
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
i bet UC has an appointment with a plastic surgeon after the OS got out...LOL
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

------------------
CashCow
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
ANYONE
With Ameritrade cash(no margin) account ?
At the end of August an entry was made take CIM(restricted) from cash and plaving in margin CIM(restricted).
They said account has no margin, but this is a different animal.
Any explanations ?
VAN

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 07, 2004).]
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
VNGNTN1
Member posted September 07, 2004 07:38
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ANYONE
With Ameritrade cash(no margin) account ?
At the end of August an entry was made take CIM(restricted) from cash and plaving in margin CIM(restricted).
They said account has no margin, but this is a different animal.
Any explanations ?
VAN
[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 07, 2004).]

i've talked to ameritrade a few times about these dividends, from what they have told me they don't even have a final pay date. everything is tenitive, the amount of the split & the date. that was 2 weeks ago today the last i talked to them
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
BILL
Why would they suddenly try to change the character of year old shares ?
VAN
Have you checked your August statement ?
Just got the answer ; they had had it in wrong account.
Just learned this:
A cash account has three levels
CASH
MARGIN Used to hold short positions created by trading
SubMARGIN Used to hold short positions created by others.

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 07, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 07, 2004).]
 


Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Does anyone know what the Kensington Press Release dated today regarding the Fort La Come mining area is all about. Please post if you are aware of the press release.

------------------
"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"
 


Posted by ali on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
Does anyone know what the Kensington Press Release dated today regarding the Fort La Come mining area is all about. Please post if you are aware of the press release.



Victoria, B.C. Tuesday, September 7, 2004 - Kensington Resources Ltd.
(the "Company") announces that the Joint Venture management team has
been restructured and will focus on identifying new goals and reviewing
the strategy for advancing the Fort ΰ la Corne Diamond Project in
Saskatchewan. De Beers, as the operator, has welcomed the request from
Kensington to become more involved in the planning process. The first
meeting of the restructured team is scheduled for October 2004 and
Kensington will be sending three representatives to contribute to a
proposal which will be presented to the De Beers board in early 2005.

Richard Molyneux, the President and CEO of De Beers Canada Corporation,
stated, "This restructuring is indicative of the co-operative
relationship between the partners and demonstrates our joint commitment
to progressing the Fort ΰ la Corne Project as efficiently as possible."

Robert A. McCallum, President of Kensington, stated, "The team will be
examining ways to accelerate a development decision on the Fort ΰ la
Corne Project and we are pleased to be able to contribute our
experience and knowledge to the project to reach this goal. "

The Company's representatives on this team will be Robert McCallum,
P.Eng., Brent C. Jellicoe, P.Geo., and Raj Anand, P.Eng. Mr. Anand,
the principal of RKA Engineering Consultants Inc., has a Master's
degree in Civil Engineering from the University of Alberta and over 25
years' experience in mine permitting, design planning and construction.

Using the expertise of proven management and world-class, experienced
technical advisors, Kensington Resources Ltd. is actively involved in
confirming the economic potential of this deposit and moving the
project forward to a development decision as rapidly as possible. The
Fort ΰ la Corne Diamond Project is a joint venture among Kensington
Resources Ltd. (42.25%), De Beers Canada Exploration Inc., a wholly
owned subsidiary of De Beers (42.25%), Cameco Corporation (5.5%) and
UEM Inc. (carried 10%). The 71+ kimberlite bodies of the Fort ΰ la
Corne Field form one of the largest diamondiferous clusters in the
world.

ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS
OF KENSINGTON RESOURCES LTD.

(signed) "Robert A. McCallum"

Robert A. McCallum
President

TRADING SYMBOL: KRT-TSX.V

For further information, please contact:

Robert A. McCallum, President
Kensington Resources Ltd.
Tel: 1-800-514-7859 or (250) 361-1578
E-mail: rob-mccallum@kensington-resources.com


The TSX Venture Exchange has not reviewed and does not accept
responsibility for the adequacy or accuracy of this news release.



 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
Looks like the competition woke up!
VAN
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
anyone getting bid & ask for SGGM? my ameritrade streamer has sggm blank its not even giving current price or volume.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
.07 from Fidelity.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
Disregard... that was Friday's close. No trades yet today, I think.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
thanks dw...it has me curious the only time i've seen a stock go blank there has been some sort of change in the symbol or a tradeing halt being this stock has been a shell since '93 i was wondering if there was meaning to it going blank this morning, it wasn't blank friday.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ucad's numbers are not normal too on here. might be something wrong with ameritrades streamer. UCAD..bid $4.10...ask..$4.40...last $5.40...up $1.25 volume 19,900 I don't ever remember seeing the ask a full dollar less then the last and the trade indicator line flat and the quote trend blank
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
if you could buy ucad at the ask of 4.40 you would on paper make $1 per share that moment....curious
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
has to be a glitch in streamer...getting quotes for sggm & ucad is normal when asking for a quote
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i emailed ameritrade this morning about the dividend splits & got a reply...notice the UCAD has the old split but the CIM has the new split


Dear William xxxxxx:

Thank you for contacting us today concerning CMKX.

At this time, we have not received any official information pertaining to
dividend payments for CMKX. We have received preliminary information pertaining
to CIM and UCAD restricted.

According to the preliminary information we received, the ex-dividend date for
the UCAD dividend was 08/18/2004 and payable on 09/24/2004 at a rate of
.0000155. Based on the preliminary information received concerning CIM, I am
showing an ex-dividend date of 08/31/2004 with a payable date of 10/01/2004 at a
rate of .0256.

We have not received any information pertaining to GEMM at this time. Should a
dividend payment be made, shareholders accounts would be updated accordingly
upon receipt of such payment.

If you have further concerns or inquiries, please reply to this message.

Sincerely,

xxxxxx xxxx
Reorganization and Safekeeping, Ameritrade
Division of Ameritrade, Inc.



 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
thanks dw...it has me curious the only time i've seen a stock go blank there has been some sort of change in the symbol or a tradeing halt being this stock has been a shell since '93 i was wondering if there was meaning to it going blank this morning, it wasn't blank friday.

Yes it is rather curious, Bill. But I was thinking that UCAD would be the vehicle for any merger...maybe not. Juina still has not traded. You may be right.


 


Posted by dwman on :
 
A trade for 102 cmkx went in at 10:39:42. What kind of MM signal is that?
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Latest from Sterling. Very long read, but covers many aspects of what may be going on:


The Mirror Covering Process…

Let’s first make sure we all understand a few things to get us all on the same page before helping all to see the importance of what we might be missing from the UCAD, CIM, and GEMM dividends. For months I had been telling people in Paltalk and other forums that from initially reviewing the external variables that are prevalent to the public about CMKX, your average investor should first think very cautiously just by the law of averages of stocks within the penny world that succeed with such known versus unknown variables. For this, we should all exercise patience with others in helping them to see what we see for feeling positive towards CMKX.

Let’s now recap about what could be the Outstanding Shares (OS) for helping to absorb this process. At one time, I and others believed the OS to be less than 10 billion shares. Then I believed it to be less than 50 billion, then less than 200 billion, then less than 300 billion, and now… I don’t know? Your guess is as good as mines. I just think that we will all be surprised for the better whenever it comes out, but for now, let’s just stick with the worse case scenario concept to keep a more conservative approach for understanding.

Still, I think the OS is important, but it doesn’t matter as much for this situation as it normally would in any other stock. I can come up with examples of debate to support both sides of the argument. So in the future, always be cautious in doing your research on stocks having high share structures. That doesn’t mean stay away from them. I just think that CMKX is different as I have always said and is the best stock in the market to be invested in, to include UCAD and GEMM. Remember to think outside the box and try to understand my “Operation Dividends” post in the link below when you get a chance to see why we got to have “some” shares in the OS to help more people: http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=60142

Now let me provide some food for thought that is based on information that is out for the public to view, which reduces the amount of speculation about the OS until otherwise officially confirmed to be different by the company. According to the OTCBB/NASD officials, the OS is 779,625,779,625 as confirmed from the UCAD dividend multiple and the OS is 1,562,500,000,000 as confirmed from the CIM dividend multiple from the link and calculations below:
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dividend.asp?sym_id=cmkx
UCAD OS Calculation for CMKX = 7,500,000 χ .00000962 = 779,625,779,625 shares
CIM OS Calculation for CMKX = 40,000,000,000 χ .0256 = 1,562,500,000,000 shares

1,562,500,000,000 – 779,625,779,625 = 782,874,220,375 Shares “Not” Accounted For

These numbers should match as bringing forth the same numbers to being the OS. As you can see, there is a huge disparity between the two. Somebody has to be responsible for accounting for those added 782,874,220,375 shares that have been confirmed by the DTC from the date of record of 20 Aug 04 for the UCAD dividend and the date of record of 31 Aug 04 from the CIM dividend.

Apparently we have not seen 782,874,220,375 shares in volume between the 11 days to account for that huge disparity in multiples for determining the OS. I am betting that since CIM shares were private shares, a more finite number of reporting the actual shares transacted through the DTC forced the DTC to reveal every single share recorded that have went through the DTC that they placed into the retail investor’s brokerage accounts.

If things are as expected, there would be a balance between the naked short position and the OS that would cause the size of the OS to balance itself out to zero or in greater favor for the shareholder as compared to the naked short position. As long as the naked short position is equivalent to or higher than the OS, the demand for CMKX shares would always force a lack of supply to exist. With the CMKX OS from the UCAD dividend reflecting 779,625,779,625 shares, the naked short position could be suspected to now be at least 782,874,220,375 shares. This is yet another reason why again, the OS is important, but it doesn’t matter because as you can see, the short position is still greater than the CMKX OS per the UCAD dividend.

Understanding the above thoughts lead us to the next topics of discussion that we have been waiting for, the dividends. I will start out with trying to explain some thoughts of UCAD, CIM, and GEMM dividends and how each have their own specific role of trapping the MMs into a corner to cover or fund the shareholders. We are now at the point to either you believe or you not believe in Urban and Team CMKX. Let’s start with the UCAD dividend which has a very significant role for the implementation of “Operation Dividend.”

The UCAD Dividend

What if the naked short position in CMKX is so huge that the MMs would be willing to take their chances in hiding the covering of CMKX through first UCAD? Many of us just were not sure what type of covering would transpire with CMKX as a repercussion from the UCAD dividend. Many had elected to believe that the Market Makers (MMs) would have a dilemma to deal with. The MMs could either cover a huge naked short position through CMKX or do what I call a Mirror Covering through first the UCAD dividend. This would be like CMKX looking in the mirror at itself and seeing CMKX and UCAD, but the MMs would be seeing UCAD (or each dividend that is up for its time of being executed.)

This is the MMs masking the covering of CMKX by shorting UCAD to use as leverage. This would be the MMs way of trying to trick us in to thinking that there really never was a short that existed in CMKX after all. These naked shorted UCAD shares are fictitiously created electronically, but are only absorbed as a cost to the MMs when we sell our dividend shares on the open market. If they are restricted, then this also could buy more time for the MMs to obtain more funds for future covering as we could not sell until 1 year from now when the restriction is currently intended to be lifted to be free trading.

What they are banking on is that the covering can be done at a lesser blow because all would not immediately sell their UCAD shares because of UCAD being a very legit company that is proven. This is the MMs converting their risk from CMKX to UCAD to give them more time to cover little by little. The MMs know that UCAD will be a major force in the market to be reckoned with so we all would not expect to see a major sell of at anytime. Let me further explain with the numbers we already have as the suspected naked short position and OS for CMKX.

For the MMs to cover the above suspected 782,874,220,375 naked short shares of CMKX it would cost probably well over $1 Billion+ from doing some quick math and considering that the price would increase as the demand for CMKX shares increased.

Instead of paying that $1 Billion+, the MMs would be willing to try to mask/hide the covering of the CMKX naked short position by creating naked shorted shares of UCAD to put into the retail investors accounts. From the UCAD multiple of .00000962 that is officially in the system, this would mean that they need to create the indicated amount of UCAD shares to hide the CMKX short:

782,874,220,375 x .00000962 = 7,531,250

This means that the MMs will have to fictitiously electronically create 7,531,250 shares of naked short shares of UCAD to put in those retail CMKX investor’s accounts that are holding naked shorted shares of CMKX. This will be at not cost to the MMs. The cost to the MMs would come when we sell our UCAD shares. With them being restricted for 1 year, this could be viewed as buying more time for the MMs to pay what they owe.

This would mean that the MMs would have a vested interest in the success of CMKX and UCAD because as CMKX and UCAD maintain their value as viable companies, people would not sell their shares which would mean that the MMs would not be out of any money for payment.

It gets better though. What if the UCAD shares they shorted to mask the covering of CMKX is greater than the float of UCAD? This could pose a problem and could be one of the trump cards that Urban and Team CMKX knows that they are holding.

Here’s why. The MMs could be pressured into a dilemma. They will either cover the naked short position in CMKX or they fall victim to cover the naked shorted position in UCAD. As mentioned above, the MMs will have to fictitiously electronically create 7,531,250 shares of naked short shares of UCAD to put in those retail CMKX investor’s accounts that are holding naked shorted shares of CMKX to keep the short hidden or masked from the SEC and others.

If UCAD goes to the AMEX as suspected, these 7,531,250 could pose a problem for the MMs. The MMs would initially think they would have time to leverage their covering for a year by these shares being restricted, but these shares would further justify and substantiate a naked short position existence. So the MMs would know the need to cover the UCAD short “if” it is created especially at this magnitude. This could be worse for the MMs because the UCAD Float is smaller and more tightly held. This would make it much harder for the MMs to get to the restricted UCAD shares to manipulate a covering.

On the AMEX, UCAD would bring forth only those shares that are legitimately registered wit the SEC as their official share structure. Those naked shorted shares of UCAD would be left behind to stick out like a sore thumb. Since they would be listed as restricted, they could not be tampered with and they could not be removed from pending circulation.

The only way the MMs could resolve this issue would be to cover CMKX or to cover UCAD before going to the AMEX. This will have to be a must because the MMs have no dominating authority on the AMEX as they do on the OTC/OTCBB to fictitiously create shares. This means no Market Maker Manipulation (MMM). The AMEX trades under a different system and a different set of rules. The MMs would have to cover the 7,531,250 shares of UCAD. This means they need for 7,531,250 shares of UCAD to be sold as the net amount to counter any additional buying pressure of UCAD.


The Float of UCAD is somewhere between 700,000 to 1,500,000 shares if I had to guess. Since there are not enough shares in the Float for them to cover through UCAD, I expect for them to go to UCAD officials to try to get certain blocks of shares issued to them from their Treasury at higher prices since there would not be enough liquidity from the MMs dilemma. All of this to keep from covering the CMKX naked short position because of how huge I believe it to be.

To remedy the liquidity issue, what if you were a CEO and you felt that your stock had been naked shorted by a huge amount of shares and you knew that you had powerful news that would make any Market Maker (MMs) cover their naked short position or take out any guilty shorting party or entity? You would have to greatly consider doing a forward split for a few reasons as a strategy.

So many might ask: “Why a forward split?” If I was in the position of CMKX or UCAD, I would have to think what better way to further worsen the blow even more for covering and further reward the blow of success to the shareholders.

Both companies would not need to do a forward split to deliver the statement I believe will be made by action, but both CMKX and UCAD will probably at least be considering to do a forward split to increase liquidity and/or to further reward shareholders with extra shares for the covering.

For CMKX, if you believed the naked short position to be 1 trillion, for an example, then a 2 to 1 forward split would now give the MMs 2 trillion shares to cover instead of 1 trillion shares. Think about it for a second. If the MMs are planning or forced to run the price of CMKX up to higher levels, doing such at .0004 or .0002 cents after a 2 to 1 forward split is not significant to them in price, but is significant to them because it would give them twice the amount of shares to cover. It’s significant to us as shareholders because it would give us twice the amount of shares to have for twice the amounts of profits. This would be very good for us, but more difficult for the MMs to cover.

For UCAD as in the info explained above, if the naked short position grows to be 7,531,250 shares then a 3 to 1 forward split would worsen the short to be covered to 22,593,750 shares. This would put the MMs in a position to cover the CMKX and any UCAD shorted shares before going to the AMEX as anticipated because they will not have any access to any of the UCAD shares going to the AMEX. Any naked shorted shares of UCAD would be left behind to reveal that unjust and illegal shorting actions had been done towards UCAD and CMKX. This would be known to all entities as fact and not accusation. This would cause the MMs to cover before UCAD gets to the AMEX.

The 3 to 1 forward split could also be of a higher ratio if it is determined that UCAD would bail the MMs out of such a bind by issuing them shares to be bought by the MMs on the open market. UCAD could easily name the price of their shares for the MMs to go get them if they need them.

Normally in any other stock dividend story, these naked short shares would be created fictitiously through electronic means, but this time would be different than CMKX last forward split or than any other stock dividend for the reasons of accountability that we have been discussing to corner the MMs covering options. The MMs problems for covering would be doubled and/or tripled because accountability is a must as more companies and key entities are now involved.

With 42,000+ shareholders of CMKX, this means that with the dividend, there will now be 42,000+ new shareholders of UCAD that will now have a vested interest in the success of UCAD. This will be huge for UCAD because of the huge amount of dedicated shareholders to provide enhanced support for UCAD going to the AMEX. This will be a huge union even if the decision is made to keep our shares restricted for one year or to lift the restriction.

Our UCAD shares are restricted for 1 year which serves two fold in my opinion. One is to make sure any naked short shares of UCAD remain trapped before moving to the AMEX to be revealed on the OTCBB as shares matched to fictitiously mask the covering of the naked short shares CMKX. Two, is to give UCAD a one year grace period to make sure the overall plan remains in tact to give UCAD any extra time needed to make sure all “I’s” are dotted and all “T’s” are crossed for its major move. Once everything is in place for movement to the AMEX, I would think that the one year grace period will not be needed and the one year restriction will be lifted. This is final only upon the final confirmation of an AMEX listing being secured. While the shares are restricted, the MMs can’t get to those shares for any kind of manipulation they might create to eliminate or mask their shorting activities. This means that any naked short shares they could have created for themselves could be revealed and unable for them to be tampered with too. This could be like them telling off on themselves too.

CMKX affiliation with UCAD will help to bring CMKX to the attention of many large positioned investors to include Institutions. This is a key for both scratching each others’ back for continued growth in working as a TEAM. I suspect that somebody out there has to be interested in starting a mining Mutual Fund that would love to have CMKX, UCAD, CIM, GEMM, SGGM, etc. in their portfolio of companies. This could be something huge that many conservative investors would love to get in on the ground floor. With the valuation that I anticipate to be revealed, there is a chance for all related companies to follow UCAD’s lead to be trading on at least the AMEX.

Remember that if UCAD decides to lift the restriction off of our shares, then we will be playing at a whole new level of confusion for the MMs. This would cause the MMs to do things they had no desire to do before; to cover CMKX. Again, this could not happen until they had absolute confirmation that they are going to the AMEX. I think we are there. I will explain what could happen sooner from the lifting of the share restriction in the GEMM scenario as they are free trading. But before doing that, we must first understand the importance of the CIM dividend to bring us to the next phase for forcing the MMs to cover.

The CIM Dividend

The CIM shares are private and are closely held by the company. There is no room for the MMs to manipulate the private shares of CIM because they are not registered to go through the DTC for trading public. These shares will have to be given to the DTC by CMKX to be equally distributed to CMKX shareholders. For this to happen, the DTC has to make known the amount of shares that they have had transacted through them from the MMs to place in people’s brokerage accounts. This is the process that is huge. This is the key piece that makes known every single share of CMKX that have been sold by the MMs and bought by us, the retail investors. This is to include the shorted and non-shorted (actual) shares of CMKX. This is what’s in need to be rectified before going to a higher exchange other than the pink sheets.

This could be another one of Urban’s trump cards he is holding to use as an advantage to position CMKX to get first to the OTCBB. CIM could be the medium used by Urban to later merge CMKX into CIM to complete the reverse merge or reverse takeover. Read below for a quick definition.
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/reversetakeover.asp
Reverse Takeover – RTO
1. The buying out of larger company (CMKX) by a smaller company (CIM).
2. The purchasing of a public company (CMKX) by a private company (CIM).
(A reverse takeover is often the cheapest way for a private company to obtain a listing on a stock exchange.Also known as a reverse merger.)

In my opinion the OS is already known and have been for some time. After CIM opens up trading on the next exchange, the RTO should be nearing execution between CMKX and CIM. If it’s decided to not use CIM to RTO into CMKX, then the anticipated valuation is expected to be huge to place valuation in CIM as its own entity. We expect this to be a “zinc” related announcement.

The OS should have already been substantiated through the UCAD share distribution process for all official parties to be in union on by this time. The CIM dividend will be the next chapter putting closure to the covering of CMKX.

Since the CIM shares are private shares held by the company, the MMs can’t fictitiously create or short the CIM shares to mask any type of covering of the CMKX naked short position. What Roger Glenn reports as the gospel for the official share count will not stand to be corrected by anyone.

If the MMs have not cover by the time CMKX has disseminated the UCAD distribution, it would have at least been confirmed. The CIM dividend will be the next phase to expedite the covering of the naked short position of CMKX.

As more and more valuation has been revealed in CMKX, more pressure would have been placed on the MMs because of the anticipated increase in buying pressure increasing the demand for CMKX shares with a scarce supply. The MMs would be forced to at least begin some of the covering to keep from allowing this to further worsen.

Many are anticipating a huge zinc valuation to be placed in CIM which would enhance the valuation in CMKX as a subsidiary up until the shares are placed into our accounts. The CIM dividend takes the MMs out of the game unlike the UCAD and GEMM dividends. The CIM dividends only allow for that certain coordination between the company and what the DTC reports as total amount of CMKX shares they have on record for being transacted to the retail investor’s brokerage account, us. Now we go to the next phase which includes GEMM to make sure all have been captured and covered.

The GEMM Dividend

This dividend will be one to provide a security check to make sure the MMs have covered CMKX. This will be because they will be in a “lose-lose” situation because they will be in a very bad situation from either massive buying or selling of GEMM.

The massive selling would pose a problem if the MMs have made the decision the short GEMM to mask the covering of CMKX to try to make us think that they fixed the problem. This would be in the same manner as the UCAD situation, but the shares are immediately known to be free trading which should push the MMs into the corner from a different angle.

The MMs will have to either cover CMKX naked short position or short GEMM to trick the public in to thinking that a short never existed in CMKX such as with UCAD dividend. The difference here with the GEMM dividend than with UCAD is that these GEMM dividend shares will be free trading immediately upon placement into our accounts.

With these shares being free trading, as we sell our GEM shares, the MMs will be responsible for filling those orders which they would then be out of the money they were trying to not use for covering CMKX. This means that the MMs would have a vested interest in hoping that enough value is revealed in GEMM that would make us want to hold our position in GEMM.

With significant increased valuation being placed in GEMM, increased demand should occur therefore forcing the price to increase as the supply for GEMM decreases tremendously. This now makes the naked short position in GEMM worse for the MMs to cover and have created a dilemma for using GEMM as a medium as they were once again forced to do. They would be in a bad situation from people selling GEMM and in a bad situation from people buying GEMM.

Expect to see some huge announcements from the mine since it is now out of the bag that this mine use to be an old DeBeers mine that was forced to be given up by DeBeers which opened the doors for us to snatch up this “golden” and “glittering” opportunity. The valuation is already there and proven and all we will do is properly place it.

Because of what I believe to be something of huge valuation to be placed in GEMM, this will have the same effects as a cash dividend because our shares will be scarce for the MMs and selling a small portion should do wonders helping some people to get to the Las Vegas party. The MMs will be gladly welcoming any kind of selling to get shares of GEMM to help them to cover some of their position. This blow still would be a lesser blow than them covering the entire CMKX short position. These are only some thoughts because who knows? We still could one day be awarded a cash dividend in the future by being shareholders of CMKX and now UCAD. We’ll see. I won’t spin off on that tangent because that would be whole different post of spec-o-lation.

As for SGGM

It is expected that there are some key players that could be revealed to be involved with the SGGM deal with CMKX. This is something that I think that the companies would need to reveal. All I can share about SSGM is my speculation that I had previously posted about last week in the link below: http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=76293
(With this post, I was off by $10 Million in my quick math when I doubled a figure to use the 10% calculation to find the remaining 95%, but it still did not have a significant effect on the bottom line figure.)

As for us getting any of the SGGM shares as a dividend, I don’t know. But, I would have to think that the 200 Billion shares is a lot for any one entity to have and Urban has shown how giving he has been up unto this point that it would appear that SGGM will be the next piece to be placed into “Operation Dividends.” This is only a guess.

In Closing

Keep in mind, Urban and Team CMKX is in the process of getting CMKX to a higher exchange. I am guessing that they will crawl before they walk and get CMKX first to the OTCBB. This could be done through CIM since it would be cheaper to do so through the RTO process I mentioned above.

Many of us believe that there is a chance too that the new rule of the Short Sale ACT Reporting Requirements for OTCBB and Other Non-NASDAQ OTC Equity Securities that was extended to come into effect on 24 Sep 04 could prove to be in favor of CMKX and its dividends. The reason for the extension was in part for those needing to make significant technological changes to the related systems for monitoring. The complete rule is in the link below: http://www.nasdr.com/pdf-text/0454ntm.txt

Then upon completion of “Operation Dividends” and us having all of our many dividends that Urban is planning on rewarding all CMKX shareholders in our accounts, I think that CMKX would be a perfect candidate to merge or reverse merge into a company that is already trading on a major market. After receiving a few more dividends, shareholders would not mind merging or even reverse merging into a company of value that would be trading on a higher exchange such as the AMEX or NYSE in my opinion.

As Urban continues to run the dividends through CMKX the MMs will have to continue masking the covering of CMKX through paying for the dividends or feel the wrath of the repercussions from shorting the dividend at hand. Will the MMs be willing to do this Mirror Covering Process for every stock dividend that is pending and to be added in the future? I think the way Urban is seeing this is that if the MMs don’t pay for the CMKX naked short in whole, then they can pay for the naked short in pieces through each dividend.

This way, the MMs would in essence be paying or to better put it, funding all of our dividends each time they choose to not cover the naked short position of CMKX by hiding the naked short position through the creation of the dividends to mirror that needed amount to be reflected in our accounts.

Urban has told me that his ultimate goal is for CMKX to go away, but not until the mission is complete with “Operation Dividends.” I can only think of three ways as to how Urban could allow for the going away of CMKX upon mission complete; 1-A tender offer to take CMKX private which would be like the CMKX buying out its shareholders; 2-A tender offer made buy another company such as DeBeers, Kensington, BHP, etc. or another entity to buyout the shareholder’s positions; or 3-Through some type of merger/reverse merger or RTO into a viable company that shows huge promise as mentioned earlier. This company would have already have been trading on a major exchange. This would have to be a company that shareholders would love and trust. This company would have to be a company that could create and continue to maintain the loving bond that Urban has created throughout the shareholder community. Right now, I would have to say that UCAD fits this description by far.

Now go back and take all of those dividends from “Operation Dividends” and roll them up into one company to be IPO-ed. I won’t talk on this to keep this post from being to long because that is a different plate of food for thought that could take another few pages or so.

I just want to leave you with one question to put closure on this post which has been nothing more than my opinions to give all of us some more “spec-o-lation” to wonder about and/or discuss as none of the information is known as fact and is subject to change as official news is released by the company to provide direct guidance. With all that have been posted above, ask yourself:

What if the OS is a lot lower than what many have been publicly led to think from information that could have been strategically positioned to cause confusion between the DTC, the Market Makers, and/or other unfriendly entities (or entity)?

All is well! http://www.sterlingsclass.com/
;-)
Sterling
http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=78017



 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Numerous 9000000 blocks trading this morning.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
thanks for sterlings post noah. he might have answered the ? about the differance in the ucad & cim split. then he puts a big ? on if that might be possible with his ucad theory. restricted shares are not delt through mm's they handle only shares that can be traded and as we all know you can't trade restricted shares. i might have misunderstood ameritrade when i talked to them but i was told they went right from the T/A to the dtc to be distributed to the broker accounts/ the mm's are not middlemen in this type of deal thus how can the make fake restricted shares, send then to the dtc and then to the brokers. still his idea of why the differance in the splits makes the most sence. now if it is legal and the dividend was cut from 40 billion to 20 billion you end up under 800 billion and the differance in o/s count is 1,624,220,375 and with 11 days in between that could be possible.
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
Numerous 9000000 blocks trading this morning.

That is what I have seen for weeks. Also ones like 9,999,999 or 9,999,900 really wierd with the 9's.
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
Latest RUMORS from the track.
... Elcamino said largest mineral in world still not identified They asked about 3-4 minerals not the right one
...
FWIW until a PR


I believe the "still not identified" does not mean it is one of the few remaining slots on the periodic chart. I believe it refers to attempts to get them to tell us what it is.

I think it is uranium. Here's why.

http://www.cna.ca/english/Media_Room/releases/Aug%203-Media%20release.pdf


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE DECLINING CONFIDENCE IN THE ELECTRICITY SUPPLY; ONE YEAR AFTER BLACKOUT MAJORITIES SUPPORT INVESTMENT IN NUCLEAR OTTAWA (August 3, 2004) -- After a massive power outage darkened much of Ontario and the eastern United States nearly a year ago, new opinion research finds that public confidence in our energy supplies has declined significantly. According to an Ipsos-Reid survey released today, only 43 per cent of Ontarians now believe that the electricity supply is sufficient to meet present and future needs. Nationally, confidence in the security of our energy supplies has declined to 59 per cent from 71 per cent two years ago. In response to concerns about looming electricity shortfalls, 67 per cent of Ontarians and 57 per cent of Canadians nationwide say they support upgrading and modernizing nuclear facilities. And in Ontario, 50 per cent of the public favours building new nuclear facilities. “Nuclear contributes about 45 per cent of Ontario’s electricity supply and about 16 per cent of Canada’s electricity supply. Nuclear is a major workhorse of the system. It provides much of the power we need to maintain our economy and standard of living -- at one of the lowest costs, and without emitting greenhouse gasses,” said Murray Elston, President and CEO of the Canadian Nuclear Association. “Clearly, people in Ontario and across the country recognize the important role of nuclear power, and they support investing in nuclear to ensure the security and stability of our energy supplies.”
The Ipsos-Reid survey, carried out for the Canadian Nuclear Association, was conducted between May 13 and May 21 and again between June 1 and 3, 2004. In May, a representative randomly selected sample of 2,207 adult Canadians (obtaining a ±2.1 per cent margin of error) and 800 Ontarians (obtaining a ±3.5 per cent margin of error) was interviewed by telephone. In June, a representative randomly selected sample of 1,000 adult Canadians (obtaining a ±3.1 per cent margin of error) and 379 Ontarians (obtaining a ±5 per cent margin of error) was interviewed by telephone. These margins of error will be larger within regions and for other sub-groupings of the survey population. These data were weighted to ensure the sample's regional and age/sex composition reflects that of the actual Canadian population according to the 2001 Census data. For more information on this research, including a full report of results, and tabular data, please go online to http://www.ipsos.ca. For more information, please contact : Darrell Bricker, President, Ipsos-Reid Public Affairs (416) 324-2900 Darrell.bricker@ipsos-na.com www.ipsos-pa.com Claudia Lemieux Canadian Nuclear Association Director of Communications and Media Relations (613) 237-9082 lemieuxc@cna.ca www.cna.ca Mike Pettapiece PR POST 416-777-0368

JMO
Don


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
SGGM .14 / .15

Forgive me for thinking out loud, but SGGM's AS is 900 billion. CMKX AS at 800 billion. Wouldn't a one for one share merger into SGGM make a lot of sense. If we did that, our CMKX shares would be worth .14 today. Well I can dream can't I?
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
If we don't merge, our 200 billion shares of SGGM is now worth 30 billion dollars to CMKX. If we don't merge and only get a dividend of the SGGM shares, it's gonna be really sweet.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
SGGM .14 / .15

Forgive me for thinking out loud, but SGGM's AS is 900 billion. CMKX AS at 800 billion. Wouldn't a one for one share merger into SGGM make a lot of sense. If we did that, our CMKX shares would be worth .14 today. Well I can dream can't I?


good thinking Noah----if they find diamonds in QUANTITY it might even hold a higher value than CMKX'x current.....
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
If SGGM is going up this quickly with no reason on the surface, then something has to be going on behind the scenes. .14 on the bid and .18 on the ask. Voume at 222k
 
Posted by kevy0899 on :
 
Hi Bill... I emailed ETRADE a similar question. Find below a part of their response.. I emailed them a second time asking them if the 1/1 spinoff was with GEMM and they replied yes. Hope this is useful.

Thank you for your inquiry regarding the pending CMKX spin-offs. There are currently three spin offs taking place. The ex-date for the first transaction is 8/20/04. This is the date on which the seller, and not the buyer, of a stock will be entitled to a recently announced dividend/spin-off. It is indicated in newspaper listings with an "x". The shares from the spin-off are due to payout on 9/24/04. The terms of the spin off are 1 share for each 103950 shares held of CMKX. If you are due to receive the shares, you should see them appear in the first week of October.
The second spin off's ex-date is 8/31/04, with a pay date of 10/1/04. The terms of the spin off are .0256 shares for each 1 share held of CMKX. The third spin off's ex-date is 9/17/04, with a pay date of 10/3/04. The terms of the spin off is 1 share for each 1 share held of CMKX.


quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
i emailed ameritrade this morning about the dividend splits & got a reply...notice the UCAD has the old split but the CIM has the new split


Dear William xxxxxx:

Thank you for contacting us today concerning CMKX.

At this time, we have not received any official information pertaining to
dividend payments for CMKX. We have received preliminary information pertaining
to CIM and UCAD restricted.

According to the preliminary information we received, the ex-dividend date for
the UCAD dividend was 08/18/2004 and payable on 09/24/2004 at a rate of
.0000155. Based on the preliminary information received concerning CIM, I am
showing an ex-dividend date of 08/31/2004 with a payable date of 10/01/2004 at a
rate of .0256.

We have not received any information pertaining to GEMM at this time. Should a
dividend payment be made, shareholders accounts would be updated accordingly
upon receipt of such payment.

If you have further concerns or inquiries, please reply to this message.

Sincerely,

xxxxxx xxxx
Reorganization and Safekeeping, Ameritrade
Division of Ameritrade, Inc.


[This message has been edited by kevy0899 (edited September 07, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Glass, I understand that such a merger would lower the pps, but remember the Nevada Secy of State's report reposted before, Note the 950 billion in assets. I keep wondering if CMKX has alread transferred our assets into the SGGM shell in preparation for a one for one merger. If so, then the CMKX to SGGM merger shows our valuation at 950,000,000. Being true, then I don't believe the merger would have much of a negative impact on pps.

NEVADA SECRETARY OF STATE

Company Name: ST. GEORGE METALS, INC. INDEX NUMBER 0000848626

Type: REGULAR (DOMESTIC)

Status: ACTIVE (REINSTATED)

Standing: CURRENTLY IN GOOD STANDING

Status Date: 7/19/2004

Filing Date: 6/13/1984

Duration: PERPETUAL

State or Country of Incorporation: NEVADA

Purpose: ALL LEGAL ACTIVITIES; HAS NO GAMING

Registered Agent: MARK GIEBELHAUS
Status: ACCEPTED
Creation Date: 8/6/2004
Companies Represented: 1
Companies in Good Standing: 1

Registered Office: 1350 E FLAMINGO RD #688
LAS VEGAS, NV 89119

Additional Information: HAS LIMITED LIABILITY

Filing Number: C4070-1984

Annual Report: Date Due: 2005
Report Date: 8/6/2004
Comments: TERMINATED LIST OF OFFICERS; Number of Officers Reported: 3

Stock Information: Par Value: $ 0.001
Total Capital: $ 950,000,000,000

Officers, Directors: MARK GIEBELHAUS
PRESIDENT
1350 E. FLAMINGO RD #688
LAS VEGAS, NV 89119
Added Date: 4/15/1985

R. ROSS BLUSSON
DIRECTOR
470 W. 37TH STREET
VANCOUVER, BC
Added Date: 7/9/1984

History: File Date: 8/6/2004
Comments: DONALD HAINES #688 1350 E. FLAMINGO RD LAS VEGAS NV 89119 SBA
Transaction: RESIDENT AGENT RESOLUTION

File Date: 7/23/2004
Comments: CERTIFICATE OF AMENDMENT FILED AMENDING CORPORATE STOCK. NEW ACTUAL STOCK IS 950,000,000,000 @ .001 = 950,000,000. ($34725) 1PG SBA
Transaction: 020

File Date: 7/23/2004
Comments: CAPITAL STOCK WAS 40,000,000 @ .010= 400,000 SBA
Transaction: CHANGE CAPITAL

File Date: 7/19/2004
Comments: REINSTATED, REVOKED 07-01-04 AJW
Transaction: OTHER AMENDMENT

File Date: 7/19/2004
Comments: THOMAS L. BELAUSTEGUI 71 WASHINGTON ST RENO NV 89503 AJW
Transaction: RESIDENT AGENT RESOLUTION

File Date: 7/30/1993
Comments: CERTIFICATE OF DESIGNATION, PREFERENCES, RIGHTS AND LIMITATIONS OF SERIES B PREFERRED STOCK, $.01 PAR VALUE. DMF
Transaction: OTHER AMENDMENT

File Date: 8/22/1991
Comments: CERTIFICATE OF DESIGNATION, PREFERENCES, RIGHTS AND LIMITATIONS OF SERIES A PREFERRED STOCK, $.01 PAR VALUE. TLS
Transaction: OTHER AMENDMENT

File Date: 12/31/1990
Comments: RESTATED ARTICLES - VARIOUS CHANGES IN THE ARTICLES C W
Transaction: OTHER AMENDMENT

File Date: 12/31/1990
Comments: CAPITAL STOCK WAS 2500 NO PAR C W
Transaction: CHANGE CAPITAL

File Date: 2/14/1989
Comments: ADDING LIABILITY-ARTICLES XII AND XIII
Transaction: CHANGED LIMITED LIABILITY

File Date: 7/6/1987
Comments: E. A. HOLLINGSWORTH, ESQ. 226 CALIFORNIA AVE RENO NV 89509
Transaction: RESIDENT AGENT RESOLUTION

File Date: 11/22/1985
Comments: E. A. HOLLINGSWORTH, ESQ. 327 SOUTH ARLINGTON RENO NV 89501
Transaction: RESIDENT AGENT REMOVAL

File Date: 6/5/1985
Comments: E. A. HOLLINGSWORTH, ESQ. 604 LANDER STREET RENO NV 89509
Transaction: RESIDENT AGENT REMOVAL



 


Posted by ali on :
 
Bought SGGM @ 0.05 sold today @ .14 ...only 10000 shares...not bad $900 profit....
still dividents to come through CMKX

GO CMKX

 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Melvin on PatTalk for drilling update. They quit drilling on Saturday because it is too wet from the rains and making it dangerous to drill. Will give it time to dry up and start drilling again later this week. Were at 700' when they stopped and still in the same "Stuff". Geologist will be there this week to examine and assay the "Stuff". When they resume drilling, it will be a new hole nearby to the present hole.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
SGGM now .23 / .30
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Now .30 / .35 This things on fire this afternoon.
 
Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
SGGM opened @ .09

Was .018 around 3:30, then just jumped directly to .28 and is now .35

????????????????????????????
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Ask at .40
 
Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:

Stock Information: Par Value: $ 0.001
Total Capital: $ 950,000,000,000

That's a typo, right? 950 Billion dollars?
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
whats the bid?
 
Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
SGGM just traded @ .40
CMKX just traded @ .0004

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
I smell sggm pps increase to $.50 to $.56 and then 1 for 1 merger announcement. Go sggm.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
those sggm pps increases are occurring on volumes of 1 to 5 thousand.
 
Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Just for the record...

sarki316
Member posted August 25, 2004 11:48            
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pencil down Sept 7th on your calander. That is when CMKX will make there huge announcment. REGARDING EVERYTHING. AND IT WILL BE VERY VERY GOOD.


(Come on, sarki... you have 8 more hours to be right!)



 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i dont know about you folks but i think sggm has been the best stock buy i've seen in a while .02 a week ago to .32...that a passable % increase for 1 week. the a/s might be 950 billion but the float cant be over 10 million maybe 20 million. it has to be more then ucad they are up 1.05 on 55 thousand
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
I forgot about that win... yes... go sarki!
 
Posted by skippy on :
 
Has anyone considered the "ium" to be palladium? It is a precious metal used globally.

Just a thought.
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
The comment was made by someone that 3 or 4 questions were asked about the mystery metal and none of the guesses were right. Surely uranium should have been one they asked about and got a "no" answer. Does anyone know if uranium was one that was mentioned. I still think it was uranium.
 
Posted by Prdponce on :
 
BIG TIP!!!!!

The next time play the CO. that CMKX get into an agreement with.

See UCAD, GEMM, SGGM they all went up, yet we stayed the same.

Still holding


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Our JV's had a great day. Our turn can't be far behind. Can it?


ECPNe .65 +.07 +12%
GEMM .037 +.007 +23%
UCAD 5.24 +1.09 +26%
SGGM .35 +.28 +400%
 


Posted by skippy on :
 
I agree, uranium would be an obvious guess, just don't know that palladium would be.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
kevy0899
Member posted September 07, 2004 15:08
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Bill... I emailed ETRADE a similar question. Find below a part of their response.. I emailed them a second time asking them if the 1/1 spinoff was with GEMM and they replied yes. Hope this is useful.
Thank you for your inquiry regarding the pending CMKX spin-offs. There are currently three spin offs taking place. The ex-date for the first transaction is 8/20/04. This is the date on which the seller, and not the buyer, of a stock will be entitled to a recently announced dividend/spin-off. It is indicated in newspaper listings with an "x". The shares from the spin-off are due to payout on 9/24/04. The terms of the spin off are 1 share for each 103950 shares held of CMKX. If you are due to receive the shares, you should see them appear in the first week of October.
The second spin off's ex-date is 8/31/04, with a pay date of 10/1/04. The terms of the spin off are .0256 shares for each 1 share held of CMKX. The third spin off's ex-date is 9/17/04, with a pay date of 10/3/04. The terms of the spin off is 1 share for each 1 share held of CMKX.


1 for 1 on the gemm split???? that has to be wrong. the gemm dividend is 95,502,027 shares which would make our o/s the same number. even if they add the option its only 222,000,000 plus change in shares. our o/s is not 222 million. even sterling, zen & dr.d smoking dope for a week straight couldn't come up with that number...lol. i think someone at etrade has a fat finger moment kevy. sure would be nice though
 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
The comment was made by someone that 3 or 4 questions were asked about the mystery metal and none of the guesses were right. Surely uranium should have been one they asked about and got a "no" answer. Does anyone know if uranium was one that was mentioned. I still think it was uranium.

But if the "ium" was still such a secret, what do you think would have been the answer even if the guy got it RIGHT?

I can't imagine a company deciding to keep something confidential... UNLESS some GUESSES it !


 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Good point win, but I would hope they would not invite guesses and then lie about the answers. I really have no basis for thinking they would lie though. Also, that it is uranium is just my opinion but it sure would help the government's energy shortage.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
kevy0899
Member posted September 07, 2004 15:08


Bill, wasn't the third dividend CIM?


 


Posted by Prdponce on :
 
From Another board.

By: tonicma
07 Sep 2004, 04:04 PM EDT
Msg. 78287 of 78289
Jump to msg. #
CMKX not going up due to MM applying "reverse psychology" on us. Have you read oh it. Bascially the idea is to make the person think another way by "allowing" them to do what they intended to do in the first place due to their desire to defy the another person. So how does the MM apply this. Very simple.
1) MM want you to sell CMKX
2) shareholders go "NO MM I am buying more and holding no matter what happens"
3) MM go ok, well since we can't "make" them to sell than we will let them just hold and buy.
4) MM go "ok fine buy it and hold it"
5) We hold and is happy
6) MM make other company "close" to us to ballistic
7) shareholder go "what the f**k"
8) shareholder get pissed off at "THEIR INVESTMENT", note they are not pissed off at the MM but their investment.
ie. "why is everybody going up and we are not damn it?"
" I wish I bought GEMM, SGGM, UCAD instead of CMKX"
9) Shareholder began to "question" their CMKX holding.
10) shareholder go "well maybe I'll sell some of mine say > 50% gains and buy ucad and sggm
11) MM get your shares
12) we buy sggm, gemm, ucad
13) MM bring these baby down hard (as we have seen from gemm and ucad)
14) shareholder panic, gets pissed off sells ucad gemm sggm.
After this the shareholder does NOT buy anymore CMKX immediately because of their previous action of selling CMKX and due to the fact that they still have "some" cmkx BUT the gains they made from CMKX is lost due to the declining of ucad gemm sggm they bought
MM at the end benefits BIG time why
1) due to shareholder selling of cmkx, they cover and keep price down
2) They make profit from "shorting" UCAD SGGM GEMM by selling high than buying back low.
So people, don't worry about the sggm going up etc. it will come down hard real hard due to people buying it. just watch and see. We saw it happen to ucad AND GEMM.
Just hold your cmkx shares.

[This message has been edited by prdponce (edited September 07, 2004).]
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
noah...no cim was the 7/19/04 and gem was 8/02/04
 
Posted by kevy0899 on :
 
I have to admit... I was shocked too. But I am also new to this and didnt really know what to think. Thanks for the response.

quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
kevy0899
Member posted September 07, 2004 15:08



 
Posted by kevy0899 on :
 
I just sent ETRADE a mail asking them to confirm or deny the 1/1 GEMM statement they made.. I will let you know the response.


quote:
Originally posted by kevy0899:
I have to admit... I was shocked too. But I am also new to this and didnt really know what to think. Thanks for the response.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by bill1352:
[b]kevy0899
Member posted September 07, 2004 15:08


[/B][/QUOTE]

 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
noah...no cim was the 7/19/04 and gem was 8/02/04


Thanks Bill, I've got 'em written down now. So confusing.


 


Posted by $CashMaker$ on :
 
Market Cap
273,779.20*

Shares Outstanding
684,448,000*

*Numbers include tradable shares only

Today's Volume
-491,261,259
http://tools.thestreet.com/rmy/quotes.html?osymb=tfct&pg=qcn&timer=&symb=cmkx&go_btn.x=14&go_btn.y=9

[This message has been edited by $CashMaker$ (edited September 07, 2004).]
 


Posted by cndboy on :
 
holy shmoly.... what happened to SGGm today? any news release ? nice jump
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
COMPOUNDED MATH by zeninvestor

Posted by: zeninvestor32
In reply to: None Date:9/7/2004 4:19:42 PM
Post #of 11641

COMPOUNDED MATH

Assumptions:

1. 800B share naked short.
2. 200B share OS on SGGM.
3. 40B share float in CMKX (float which does not include up to 760B restricted)
4. Urban distributes unrestricted SGGM 5:1 to only unrestricted CMKX (choosing to forego insider profit)

5:1 ratio on 800B naked short shares equals a 4 Trillion share short position hitting the books on SGGM for those short. Multiply that by .35 = $1.35T share short position. LOL

Do I believe the above will happen? No. Do I think it's possible? Sure, anything's possible at this stage. LOL I challenge someone to give me an argument as to why the above could NOT happen outside of my variables being off. Fun food for thought and proof positive that we know NOTHING since there are so many variables at the company's disposal. This has got to be the finest mystery ever crafted in the history of the financial markets. I can't wait for the resolution. Hopefully it will be a Sixth Sense-like spinaround that leaves you breathless. Excuse me, I have to go back to the counter for my free popcorn bucket refills.


Z

As always, these are my personal opinions.

Hopefully nobody in here is investing anything but "fun" money that they can afford to gamble with.

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=3981092



 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
xxed

SGGM Manipulation?

I was wondering if anyone thinks that it is possible that SGGM is turning the tables on the MM's.

This is the O/S as of 2002:

SGGM -- St. George Metals, Inc.
Com (1 Cent) http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/company_profile.jsp?symbol=SGGM

Shares Outstanding: 14,487,159 as of 2002-10-31

It would take about $144,871 to buy up all of the outstanding shares of SGGM at the price of .01 cents per share.
(SGGM is already shelling out 10 million dollars to CMKX, so 144 thousand wouldn't be hard for them to come up with.)

If the law of supply and demand holds true, they could conceivably bring the pps up to any price they want. (SGGM could even be buying up all of the available shares themselves, to do this.)

Now for specolation:
When they bring the pps up to the price that SGGM is happy with, let's say .50 cents per share,

What would happen if CMKX lets loose a pr stating that the entire 200 billion SGGM shares controlled by CMKX would be offered as a dividend to its shareholders, in restricted form, on a 1 for 1 basis.

What would happen to the pps of CMKX?

Just pure specolation.
What does anyone think of this?

xedd



 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
jet0525

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I've no concerns with the lack of PR's, nor do I care when they release one. I see the activity that is happening in the partnerships we're forming, I see Roger Glenn playing his cards, I see action occuring both in the stock market and in the drilling and am happy with the direction. To me, the fact that our partners value is increasing while ours stays flat is an indicator to me that they are trying to run up the other stocks because it's easier to control and they can use the increases as a way to shake investor confidence in CMKX. Doing that kind of thing just makes me hold onto my shares that much tighter.

 


Posted by HarryHar on :
 
In response to SGGM manipulation...yeah it probably is happening. But if CMKX distributes the only free trading shares in the market to its shareholders (200billion), and the price is manipulated up to .50, the price of cmkx will increase, and then plummet back to where it was before. Once people receive the shares of SGGM, they will sell because they know it's not worth 50 cents. Obviously it's not, since it was manipulated to get there. In the example above the price is achieved through taking away the float. But when 200 billion shares are released eventually into float, that price per share is gonna be history. It'll drop, depending on how many shares are outstanding assuming they don't have any good news of their own that is independent of CMKX's business. Just my thought.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i'm still guessing no news till after the gemm shares are paid except maybe a pr stating they took the option on the rest of the gemm shares. i'm wondering and i have looked but no legal answer found yet...can cmkx change the shares given on CIM without a pr stating so. i don't think a pr is legally binding. as there is no otc bb post on gemm as yet and if things follow suit it will work out to a third o/s. and since the pay date is 3 weeks give or take an explaination of the differance might be nice. since cmkx doesn't seem to have any plans of telling us it might help if we knew if they can change the amount without telling anyone. 20 billion shares fits all the info we do know for sure. the a/s of 800 billion and a few shares differance for 11 trading days. that is if each shares owned has been counted for each x-date. any facts found either way would be welcome.
 
Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
NOAH
This is old data .
- - - - - - -
SGGM -- St. George Metals, Inc.
Com (1 Cent) http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/company_profile.jsp?symbol=SGGM

Shares Outstanding: 14,487,159 as of 2002-10-31
- - - - - - - -
I have seen several references to 950b.
VAN
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
NOAH
This is old data .
- - - - - - -
SGGM -- St. George Metals, Inc.
Com (1 Cent) http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/company_profile.jsp?symbol=SGGM

Shares Outstanding: 14,487,159 as of 2002-10-31
- - - - - - - -
I have seen several references to 950b.
VAN



Pink sheets shows them still in VA. Van. The Secy of State post above is from July 19, 2004.

You must be talking about the repost. Yes that link is old.

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 07, 2004).]
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
i'm still guessing no news till after the gemm shares are paid except maybe a pr stating they took the option on the rest of the gemm shares. i'm wondering and i have looked but no legal answer found yet...can cmkx change the shares given on CIM without a pr stating so. i don't think a pr is legally binding. as there is no otc bb post on gemm as yet and if things follow suit it will work out to a third o/s. and since the pay date is 3 weeks give or take an explaination of the differance might be nice. since cmkx doesn't seem to have any plans of telling us it might help if we knew if they can change the amount without telling anyone. 20 billion shares fits all the info we do know for sure. the a/s of 800 billion and a few shares differance for 11 trading days. that is if each shares owned has been counted for each x-date. any facts found either way would be welcome.

"can cmkx change the shares given on CIM without a pr stating so. i don't think a pr is legally binding. "

I would think they can change the shares without a PR. As long as they were NOT specific in detail (of which they never are) Otherwise I futher think that if they did give exact detail and changed it without our knowledge that it would be some sort of fraud. Kind of like "Bait and Switch".

 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well at least ucad is doing something...

U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. Receives $3,000,000 of Funding
September 08, 2004 05:30:00 AM ET


U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. UCAD announced today that it has received $3,000,000 of funding via a private placement.

Rendal Williams, CEO of UCAD, stated, "This funding will allow the company to move forward on several fronts in the execution of its current plans and future development of the company's financial growth as dictated by the board of directors."

A U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. executive team, with other strategic partners, will arrive in South America this week to explore the development of several key acquisition possibilities that have been targeted on previous trips. Williams further stated, "Many of the due diligence packages are nearing completion, revealing incredible potential results, which demands an additional research trip to conclude the feasibility of Level 1 priority for expanded operations inside South America."


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
tradingpennies....they did give a number of shares and they gave an x-date sort of. all owners as of 7/19/04...it would be like GM releasing a pr saying everyone gets $2 and then sending $1 without saying so beforehand...it would be unethical but is it legal...the DTC count for CIM & UCAD dividends should be close not double. cutting CIM in half gives you numbers that are close. and how would the shareholders know, we can't count the shares given out any more then we can count the o/s. if UC takes CIM public he would have to start with 80 billion to keep 50% cutting the dividend in half cuts the starting a/s & o/s in 1/2 also. which in the long run isn't all that bad, if it ever goes public
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
St. George opened at .45 and already to .60
 
Posted by thinkmoney on :
 
wow! sggm is .55. What is up? And I have no clue why their 5% venture with us is increasing sggm pps but NADA to cmkx.

Someone is making money but its not me or CMKX at this point.
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Now at .70 on 77 thousand plus vol
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
back to .55.... Wow!! Will cmkx be that volatile?
 
Posted by legal1082 on :
 
I just got a call and my friend said that sggm is at .70!!!! WOW! I wish I had got some of that
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
This info just came across PalTalk - Bill Giebelhaus of SGGM is President of Clark Builders in Yellowknife. That company received the contract to build the Ekati mine.
 
Posted by Meatcliff_buxtable on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
This info just came across PalTalk - Bill Giebelhaus of SGGM is President of Clark Builders in Yellowknife. That company received the contract to build the Ekati mine.

Excuse my ignorance but what is the "Ekati" Mine and who owns it?

Thanks

------------------
If heaven had a height .... You would be that tall.
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Forgive me if this has already been posted and forgive the length.

CONFIRMING DR. D's NUMBERS!


CMKX to quickly become a major player...

The post below backs up Dr.D's post (and the numbers used).


Dr. D's post is at:

"$1.94 Trillion dollars profit after cost (CMKX HALL OF FAME) http://cmkx.********s35.com/index.cgi?board=greatposts&action=display&num=1092188295&start=0

Posted by: Bo14172
In reply to: None Date:8/7/2004 4:45:32 PM
Post #of 7950

Confirming Dr. D's post:

Pefect Storms, Arks, Mt Saint Helens...etc, etc, etc.
Tons, carats, grams, calcualtions, figures...
From Sterling's no O/S post to now his mega O/S post. Zen and Dr.D have people going into withdrawls if a daily post isn't logged. Tales and bedtime stories seem to calm the masses, which I guess helps keep the base. Whatever floats your boat I guess..lol

However, the only way slow sustained longterm support is keeping it real during good times and bad. Early last week had many silenced and no where to be found after a certain pr was released. Putting in focus wasn't a problem for me during that time.

Keeping it constructive to the issues at hand, with fresh DD on the market and the industry, along with perspective from 20+ years in business, law and investing is what I try to bring in order to "keep our feet on the ground while reaching for the stars".

I'm sure as many doubted the figures in Dr.D's recent post, as accepted his premise blindly. Those who doubted his figures
questioned the 2 most fundemental point of his post:

1) 0.5 carat/ton of kimberlite.

2) 1/2 mile diameter pipe will contain 1 billion tons of
kimberlite.

Here's why his post is both accurate and conservative in his projections.

In looking at the history of BHP, who were the pioneers in Canadian Diamond Exploration, we find this (I'll post the link, then an excerpt from the text):

Link: http://ekati.bhpbilliton.com/news/28051998.asp

Excerpt from the text:

"Pipe Kimberlite Metres Drilled Est. Dry Tonnes Kimberlite Sampled Total Carats Recovered >1mm Sample Grade Carats/Tonne
Koala North 1075 201.7 126.58 0.63
Beartooth 1020 189.3 227.09 1.20

Commercial valuation of these samples was made in Antwerp in May. The average sample value of Koala North was $200 US per carat. Approximately 77 per cent of the value is due to three gem quality stones ranging in size from 3.26 to 5.41 carats. The average sample value for the Beartooth pipe was $79 US per carat. These figures are 10 per cent less than the average prices reported by dealers and valuers, which has been the joint venture's customary reporting practice when values are based on dealer sales prices.

Both of these pipes are relatively small, however, they are close to the mining area currently under development. The Koala North pipe is located within Koala Lake and has a surface area of approximately 0.6 hectares. The Beartooth kimberlite is situated 900 metres north of the Panda pipe and has a surface area of approximately 1.0 hectare. Reserve modeling is in progress on both pipes."
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I apologize I couldn't copy the graph as it is illustrated in their site, but the key numbers I want you to focus on are easily seen.
Look at the Carats/Tonne figures for both sites: .63/tonne and 1.20/tonne. Why are these figures important?

1) Note what BHP states about these sites. They state both of
these pipes are "reletively small". Thus...

2) Dr. D's .5 carats/tonne is not only an accurate figure to
base his valuation model, it is indeed a conservative number!


Need further proof on the 1 billion tonnes of kimberlite?

Let's roll the clock ahead to what is happening in the area. Here is a quote from Shore Gold's site regarding the Star Diamond Project:

"The geophysical signature and early stage drilling have indicated a kimberlite body in the 500 million tonne range. Shore is currently undertaking a 25,000 tonne bulk sample to better determine carat values." http://www.shoregold.com/sdp.html
_________________________________________________________________

500 million tons in the Star Project alone. And how many claims and acres do we own or control? : )

Currently Shore is using a 14.5 meter diameter exploration shaft in their BULK MINING efforts. We are now drilling VERY close to the Star Project.

Let's now look at our other neighbor, Debeers/Kensington #122:
http://www.kensington-resources.com/s/Property.asp

* They estimate 9 billion tons of Kimberlite in their claims.

* Diamond recovery from Kimberlite 122 also was very positive
with stone abun****** for the north and south part of the body
ranging from 2 to 7 times higher than historical results. A
total of 327 stones were recovered from 412.65 kg of
kimberlite including 6 macrodiamonds greater than 0.5 mm.
_________________________________________________________________

So, if there is 9 billion tons of kimberlite over the small acreage they own or control, I think it is safe to say we have at least that tonnage in over 100 anomalies and almost 2 million acres of claims!

Finally, note in BHP's information, Shore Gold's information, and
Debeer's/Kensington's information...ALL INVOLVE BULK SAMPLES!

Our test drilling will tell us if we can proceed to BULK SAMPLE STAGE. We are all 100% sure our future is very bright. But to believe we are going to pull out diamonds the size of river rocks during a small bore test drilling, is setting us up for what occured at Carolyn. However, what is exciting is the location of our new site in relation to Debeers and Shore Gold, and it is the first of many sites being explored from the guidance of the Goldak survey. This survey my friends is the key to our valuation at this point as much as our current drilling efforts. Both the survey and our finds offer many opportunties for CMKX to quickly become a major player in this area.

So in this case, read Dr.D's post knowing the base figures in his analysis are indeed conservative. Be well, Bo
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=3755635

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Posted by noahltl on :
 
Meatlciff:


The year was 1985. On a frozen plateau in the Lac de Gras area deep in the icy Canadian north, geologist Chuck Fipke found diamond indicator minerals. The hunt was on. His story and that of his prospecting partner, Stewart Blusson, led to the discovery of Canada's first diamond mine. EKATI.

Many scoffed at the idea that diamonds existed in this frozen, seemingly barren landscape. It took imagination, vision and dogged determination to continue the quest. The odds were long. The resources short.

The details involve vast territory, huge distances, brutal winters and one of the most sensitive ecological environments on the planet. In scientific terms it involved the challenge of discriminating between the hidden kimberlite pipes that bore diamonds and those that didn't. This was unknown territory in every sense of the word.

No one believed that any important diamond deposits would be found in Canada. And if they were, people felt that getting them up from this frozen ground would prove another impossibility.

The trail of kimberlitic minerals pointed to sources near Lac de Gras, about 300 km from Yellowknife. That's where Fipke and his crew staked their first claims.

Dia Met along with BHP, a world leader in mining and together owners of the EKATI Diamond Mine™, sent a group of geologists and geophysicists to conduct ultra sensitive surveys. These would lead to the ultimate discovery, its impact felt throughout the world.


A core hole was drilled right under the lake. 400 feet of barren wallrock later the hole penetrated the first kimberlite pipe. The 59 kilograms of core from the hole was found to contain 65 microdiamonds and 16 macrodiamonds.

Several years of intensive exploration led to the discovery of dozens of new kimberlite pipes on the property including the Panda pipe. Not only did the Panda pipe contain high grades of diamonds, it contained remarkable diamonds, characterized by beautiful, exceptionally white stones.

After 15 years of determination, teamwork and talent, Canada's first and only diamond producing mine is now a reality.

Every AURIAS diamond carries this legacy of passion, strength and unwavering optimism.




[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 08, 2004).]
 


Posted by Meatcliff_buxtable on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
Meatlciff:


The year was 1985. On a frozen plateau in the Lac de Gras area deep in the icy Canadian north, geologist Chuck Fipke found diamond indicator minerals. The hunt was on. His story and that of his prospecting partner, Stewart Blusson, led to the discovery of Canada's first diamond mine. EKATI.

Many scoffed at the idea that diamonds existed in this frozen, seemingly barren landscape. It took imagination, vision and dogged determination to continue the quest. The odds were long. The resources short.

The details involve vast territory, huge distances, brutal winters and one of the most sensitive ecological environments on the planet. In scientific terms it involved the challenge of discriminating between the hidden kimberlite pipes that bore diamonds and those that didn't. This was unknown territory in every sense of the word.

No one believed that any important diamond deposits would be found in Canada. And if they were, people felt that getting them up from this frozen ground would prove another impossibility.

The trail of kimberlitic minerals pointed to sources near Lac de Gras, about 300 km from Yellowknife. That's where Fipke and his crew staked their first claims.

Dia Met along with BHP, a world leader in mining and together owners of the EKATI Diamond Mine™, sent a group of geologists and geophysicists to conduct ultra sensitive surveys. These would lead to the ultimate discovery, its impact felt throughout the world.


A core hole was drilled right under the lake. 400 feet of barren wallrock later the hole penetrated the first kimberlite pipe. The 59 kilograms of core from the hole was found to contain 65 microdiamonds and 16 macrodiamonds.

Several years of intensive exploration led to the discovery of dozens of new kimberlite pipes on the property including the Panda pipe. Not only did the Panda pipe contain high grades of diamonds, it contained remarkable diamonds, characterized by beautiful, exceptionally white stones.

After 15 years of determination, teamwork and talent, Canada's first and only diamond producing mine is now a reality.

Every AURIAS diamond carries this legacy of passion, strength and unwavering optimism.




[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 08, 2004).]


Thanks for the passionate recreation of the story.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Meatcliff, does bring a tear to your eye doesn't it?? LOL
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
tradingpennies....they did give a number of shares and they gave an x-date sort of. all owners as of 7/19/04...it would be like GM releasing a pr saying everyone gets $2 and then sending $1 without saying so beforehand...it would be unethical but is it legal...the DTC count for CIM & UCAD dividends should be close not double. cutting CIM in half gives you numbers that are close. and how would the shareholders know, we can't count the shares given out any more then we can count the o/s. if UC takes CIM public he would have to start with 80 billion to keep 50% cutting the dividend in half cuts the starting a/s & o/s in 1/2 also. which in the long run isn't all that bad, if it ever goes public

LOL Seems you knew the answer! Hmm ... now you have me wondering...

 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
tradingpennys
Member posted September 08, 2004 12:28


LOL Seems you knew the answer! Hmm ... now you have me wondering...

===========================================

wish i had any kind of answer...lol...the differance in the 2 o/s counts means either somebody thinks there are 800 billion naked shorted shares or after the increase to 800 billion it was increased to 1.6 trillion. since you can't sell 800 billion shares of anything in the 11 days in between the 2 prs, not naked or real, those shares had to be there for the ucad dividend date. maybe the ucad count came from the shares cmkx got paid for and CIM comes from the shares the DTC put in broker account to then put in shareholder accounts or cmkx cut the dividend in half.

 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Poster on PalTalk called SGGM offices and spoke to a Vicky Curran, the IR person. Vicky said SGGM lay dormant for about 12 years, but still had some of the same shareholders from then. Did not know about Blusson but would check on the name. She is new to the company. Said Mark Giebelhaus was the CEO. Did say that the current OS is 16,951,000.

SGGM active TX - 877 632 3133

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Posted by noahltl on :
 
2003 PR from SGGM. Note the intention for acquisition.


HEADLINES: Saint George Metals Announces Stock Dividend


Warrenton, VA, Apr 21, 2003 (financialnewsusa.com via COMTEX) -- Saint George Metals (OTC: SGGM) announced today the issuance of a 3% stock dividend to shareholders of record of Saint George Metals on Tuesday, April 29, 2003. The payable date shall be May 2, 2003.

The Company also announced that it is undergoing a restructuring with the end goal of allowing Saint George Metals to acquire an operating company during the 2003 year.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995: The statements, other than the statements of historical facts, contained in this release which are not historical facts may be deemed to contain forward-looking statements with respect to events, the occurrence of which involves risk and uncertainties, including, without limitation, demand and competition for the Company's products and services, the availability to the Company of adequate financing to support its anticipated activities, the ability of the Company to generate cash flow from operations and the ability of the Company to manage its operations.

CONTACT: For more information
Tel: 703-575-6307


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
CT administrator at Christian Traders board will be speaking on CMKX at 5:30 eastern time at:

http://www.familyvaluesradio.com/index.html
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
I have a question. Let's just say that cmkx is going away by backing into the shell of St. George Metals... Does cmkx have to tender an offer for our shares or can they just issue the 200 billion shares of sggm? If they do that it would seem than net to us would probably be less than we would get with an offer of say $.50 per share of cmkx. Don
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i can't see anything happening till they figure out the correct o/s. on the 18th last month they increase the a/s to 800 billion. owners of record on the 20th get ucad shares, a few weeks later the ucad split is close to 800 billion. just a hunch but i dont think they sold 300 billion shares in 2 days. a few weeks go by and the cim split says 1.6 trillion o/s. in a week or 2 the gemm split should be known and i'm guessing a third o/s will figure in. everything points to the goods being there, they may even have the mother load of all diamond mines but untill cmkx gets its corporate act together no company is going to merge. if naked shares exist they need to be covered
 
Posted by kevy0899 on :
 
This was ETRADE's response.

I received your email reply today about the 9/17/04 CMKX dividend. They have not yet released the exact details of this dividend, so while 1 share for 1 share was originally listed, this is not guaranteed to be correct information. They may update this with exact numbers once the date of the dividend is closer.


quote:
Originally posted by kevy0899:
I just sent ETRADE a mail asking them to confirm or deny the 1/1 GEMM statement they made.. I will let you know the response.


[QUOTE]Originally posted by kevy0899:
[b]I have to admit... I was shocked too. But I am also new to this and didnt really know what to think. Thanks for the response.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by bill1352:
[b]kevy0899
Member posted September 07, 2004 15:08


[/B][/QUOTE][/B][/QUOTE]

 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
dw...from reading that site about shell companies i think we get shares, normally 1 for 1 of a shell company but that shell is private. they then go public to a better board and dont have to answer up for past actions. the first company just sits and all its assetts go to the new company
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
thank ya kevy....sort of..lol. sure would be nice to have 2 million shares of a diamond company with a 222 million o/s...lol. our pps would be up around ucad numbers real fast.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
Thanks Bill.

[This message has been edited by dwman (edited September 08, 2004).]
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well the green baron guy calling into christain traders thinks cmkx will be reporting in a few weeks. says roger is ucads lawyer also and that they are moving up in boards but they are waiting for cmkx to become reporting...interesting

 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
thank ya kevy....sort of..lol. sure would be nice to have 2 million shares of a diamond company with a 222 million o/s...lol. our pps would be up around ucad numbers real fast.

It would be even better if the diamond company was mining for diamonds! And the ultimate would be if they found diamonds!
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
UPDATE: CMKM DIAMONDS, INC. (Pink Sheets: CMKX) - SWAPPING STUFF
September 7, 2004
Imagine it was spring again, and time to clean out all of the useless items you had accumulated over the past years - all of those beanie babies, trolls, and pet rocks that you have been collecting. But instead of tossing them in the trash, you swap them with your neighbor, who has an equally dubious set of stuff cluttering his closet.


Now imagine that you and your neighbor agree that you are not trading junk at all, but valuable items of infinite worth. Does that make the items valuable?


CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX) has been on a trading spree. The Company, which has yet to uncover marketable diamonds or other revenue generating gems and ores, has been busy trading interests in its claims with other financially challenged mining companies. UPDATE: CMKM DIAMONDS, INC. - CONCENTRIC CIRCLES. In its search for a silk purse - or is that a diamond studded handbag - on September 2, 2004, CMKM announced a joint venture agreement with another struggling Pink Sheet company, St. George Metals, Inc (Pink Sheets: SGGM).


According to the September 2nd press release, St. George Metals has agreed to purchase a 5% interest in all of CMKM's mineral claims. In return, CMKM says it expects to receive $10,000,000 Dollars and two hundred billion (200,000,000,000) restricted shares of St. George stock. CMKM claims that it already has received the first $2,500,000 payment and anticipates three additional $2,500,000 payments by October 2nd.


The terms of this transaction place a rather curious valuation upon the assets of both companies. Investors can only guess at the value of St. George - or the state of its operations. The Company ceased filing public reports with the SEC in November 2002. When it last filed, St. George declined to provide detailed financial information, instead conceding that its "financial resources" had been "substantially exhausted" and that it had no ongoing business operations.


We have discovered no public information that would suggest St. George's fortunes have improved these past two years. The Company has not issued any recent press releases indicating new funding or renewed operations. Consequently, there is no way to determine how the financially exhausted company may have accumulated $10 million - or why it would devote such valuable resources to acquiring an interest in CMKM.


Despite this lack of information, investors responded to the CMKM announcement, driving St. George stock from $.01 a share on September 2nd to $.07 a share on September 3rd - a 700% increase for a Company whose financial condition and business remain a complete mystery.


The transaction also created a valuation for CMKM that is hardly supported by the Company's track record. If St. George was prepared to pay $10 million in cash, and deliver stock valued at $2 billion on September 2nd (and $14 billion on September 3rd) for a measly 5% of CMKM's mining interests, did that mean CMKM's claims were worth roughly between $40 billion and $280 billion?


That hardly seems likely. Remember, CMKM has yet to dig up any marketable diamonds.


The St. George alliance followed several similar swaps between CMKM and obscure mining companies searching for the mother lode - albeit unsuccessfully, at least so far. In one of those transactions, CMKM announced that it would sell 5% of its mining claims to U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. (OTCBB: UCAD) in exchange for 7.5 million shares of U.S. Canadian stock. UPDATE: CMKM DIAMONDS, INC. - SHARING SHARES. That sounds like a bargain, considering the price paid by St. George for a similar interest. The price of U.S. Canadian shares at the time of that deal was approximately $4.80 a share - CMKM practically gave away the 5% interest for a mere $36 million worth of stock.


Then again, where are the diamonds?


And there was more. CMKM also gave U.S. Canadian a one year option to acquire an additional 10% of CMKM's mineral claims for $15 million in cash. On July 27, 2004, CMKM announced that it had received $3 million from U.S. Canadian, representing a partial exercise of the option.


On the surface it seemed unlikely that U.S. Canadian would be able to come up with the necessary funds. Unlike CMKM and St. George, U.S. Canadian does file periodic reports with the SEC - the price it must pay to preserve its listing on the OTC Bulletin Board. Those reports suggest that U.S. Canadian faces considerable financial challenges. As of March 31, 2004, U.S. Canadian had $408 in cash, no current revenues, and concerns about its ability to continue as a going concern.


Matters hardly improved in the third quarter of 2004. As of June 30, 2004, U.S. Canadian had $1,321 in cash, no revenues, and cumulative losses of $17.7 million. So where did U.S. Canadian get $3 million - and why would it invest those precious funds in CMKM?


The answer can be found in U.S. Canadian's Form 10-Q financial report for the quarter ended June 30, 2004. According to the Form 10-Q, U. S. Canadian agreed to sell 600,000 shares of its stock to an unnamed party related to CMKM at $5 a share. The $3,000,000 received by U.S. Canadian from that transaction was then paid to CMKM.


In other words, an individual related to CMKM funded U.S. Canadian's investment in CMKM - just one more swap in this series of intriguing transactions.


And what of the money paid to CMKM by St. George? Was it raised in a similar fashion, by funneling shares to a "party" associated with CMKM? Unfortunately, in the absence of public filings, investors will have a difficult time finding the answer to that question.


But regulators should be able to get those answers - if only they bother to ask.

©2004 Stock Patrol.com. All rights reserved.
http://www.stockpatrol.com/schlock/doghouse/u_cmkm5.html
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Question:
1. I thought Christian Traders requested a interview with Urban some time ago. That never transpired.. did it?

2. I caught only the tale end of the radio show - Was there anyone that aired on there from CMKM?
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Anyone who has Paltalk should go there now! Melvin is singing in Sterlings classroom.
 
Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
So he's making an ass out of himself again...what's new???
 
Posted by will on :
 
The pet slob. The best of the weekend rumors was that they were going to can this slob. Shame they were only rumors, especially that one. Now for sure I know it was his progeny he had on his desk.


quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Anyone who has Paltalk should go there now! Melvin is singing in Sterlings classroom.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Man, is this thread dead!!! Where are all the fanatical protagonists? No fun at all.
 
Posted by will on :
 
You beat them all up , Wallace. Besides, what else can be said? We're all waiting on the BIG PR !!

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Man, is this thread dead!!! Where are all the fanatical protagonists? No fun at all.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Will,

LOL...YOU beat Them up! How could everyone have missed that fantastic PR that came out on Tuesday? Didn't UC supposedly fly up to the mining site for something special? Isn't everyone happy with all their dividends? Didn't the Indy Race go well? Hasn't the price gone up to .0004 from .0003 so everyone made tons of money? Have dreams turned to nightmares? Hasn't there been a merger with CMKX? Did Glenn sink while walking on water? Where's all that hype, hope and faith?
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Will,

LOL...YOU beat Them up! How could everyone have missed that fantastic PR that came out on Tuesday? Didn't UC supposedly fly up to the mining site for something special? Isn't everyone happy with all their dividends? Didn't the Indy Race go well? Hasn't the price gone up to .0004 from .0003 so everyone made tons of money? Have dreams turned to nightmares? Hasn't there been a merger with CMKX? Did Glenn sink while walking on water? Where's all that hype, hope and faith?


It's still here


 


Posted by will on :
 
Well, noah, put a little bit of that hope and faith into that PPS so I can make some money, man.

quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
It's still here



 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Well, noah, put a little bit of that hope and faith into that PPS so I can make some money, man.



Didn't you get in on the SGGM run?


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
That SGGM PR paid some people .70 per share. All it took was a little faith in CMKX and being a part of it.

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 09, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
There wasn't supposed to be a PR on Tuesday. Just said people would be happy on Tuesday. I guess those who had faith in CMKX were happy on Tuesday if the bought stock in our backer company.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
I'll be happy with my dividends on the pay date. And the race did go well if you had friends there who reported back the truth and ignored the rumors.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
How much have you made with CMKX? I have made money from it. That's what this thread is supposed to be all about! Not some other security! Talking about another stock is just another diversion from the realities of CMKX, UC, Glenn and Melvin.

By the way, hope and faith are not criteria for judging the merits of a security...and never will be.

"Say goodnight, noahltl"!

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Posted by noahltl on :
 
As for Melvin, I did hear him sing on PalTalk, which is not exactly MSNBC Stock Talk. PalTalk is a place where people not only go to share DD and ask questions, it is also a place to have fun, play music or do your own thing. The big difference there is that they get rid of bashers.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
If you didn't notice, CMKX owns a substantial portion of SGGM so it's not exactly some other security. Yes I have made a substantial amount of money on CMKX because I "really" bought a bunch at .0001


Say goodnight Wallace
 


Posted by Brad on :
 
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/9/inktomi155847.php

CMKX - CMKM Diamonds Inc. To Be Featured on National Radio Show "Prosperity for God's People"
CT Global Media, a subsidiary of Christian Traders Inc, is excited to announce their new radio show "Prosperity for God's People."

Phoenix, AZ (PRWEB) September 8, 2004 -- Christian Traders (http://christiantraders.com), the Internet's fastest growing faith-based online investment community, is pleased to announce an exciting development which will enable the company to share it's corporate and spiritual vision worldwide, via a new national radio show "Prosperity for God's People".

The show, dealing with Christians and their investments, can be heard live in Phoenix on KXEG 1280AM or worldwide via the Internet, at http://familyvaluesradio.com .

The show is broadcast live at 2:30 Pacific time and 5:30 Eastern time every Tuesday and Wednesday afternoon. Archives of previous programs are available at http://christiantraders.com and current programs can be replayed 24/7 at http://familyvaluesradio.com .

On today's show, "CT" - Pastor DeWayne Reeves, CEO and President of Christian Traders Inc., will be discussing CMKX - CMKM Diamonds Inc. CMKX is currently the hottest topic on Wall Street, trading more shares per day than Microsoft, Intel, and Cisco combined. Opinions on CMKX range from The Green Baron's statement, "CMKM Diamonds is The Stock Play of a Lifetime", to Stock Patrol's viewpoint of "Where are the diamonds?". CT has remained somewhat neutral, currently holding somewhere between 7-10 million shares, simply as a trading opportunity. When asked to expand, CT's reply was,"A million shares costs less than a trip to Vegas, the odds are slightly better, and the entertainment value alone increases with each passing day".

Callers wishing to express their opinion on CMKX can reach CT live in the studio at 623-936-4230.

Visit http://christiantraders.com for more information and to become a member of the online community. Some message boards are available to guests, but to receive full access requires a 30-second registration.



 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
Now this fits because this stock is all about faith,because there definetly has'nt been any facts or proof of diamonds.Good luck
quote:
Originally posted by Brad:
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/9/inktomi155847.php

CMKX - CMKM Diamonds Inc. To Be Featured on National Radio Show "Prosperity for God's People"
CT Global Media, a subsidiary of Christian Traders Inc, is excited to announce their new radio show "Prosperity for God's People."

Phoenix, AZ (PRWEB) September 8, 2004 -- Christian Traders (http://christiantraders.com), the Internet's fastest growing faith-based online investment community, is pleased to announce an exciting development which will enable the company to share it's corporate and spiritual vision worldwide, via a new national radio show "Prosperity for God's People".

The show, dealing with Christians and their investments, can be heard live in Phoenix on KXEG 1280AM or worldwide via the Internet, at http://familyvaluesradio.com .

The show is broadcast live at 2:30 Pacific time and 5:30 Eastern time every Tuesday and Wednesday afternoon. Archives of previous programs are available at http://christiantraders.com and current programs can be replayed 24/7 at http://familyvaluesradio.com .

On today's show, "CT" - Pastor DeWayne Reeves, CEO and President of Christian Traders Inc., will be discussing CMKX - CMKM Diamonds Inc. CMKX is currently the hottest topic on Wall Street, trading more shares per day than Microsoft, Intel, and Cisco combined. Opinions on CMKX range from The Green Baron's statement, "CMKM Diamonds is The Stock Play of a Lifetime", to Stock Patrol's viewpoint of "Where are the diamonds?". CT has remained somewhat neutral, currently holding somewhere between 7-10 million shares, simply as a trading opportunity. When asked to expand, CT's reply was,"A million shares costs less than a trip to Vegas, the odds are slightly better, and the entertainment value alone increases with each passing day".

Callers wishing to express their opinion on CMKX can reach CT live in the studio at 623-936-4230.

Visit http://christiantraders.com for more information and to become a member of the online community. Some message boards are available to guests, but to receive full access requires a 30-second registration.



 


Posted by ali on :
 
Green Baron update 9/8

Last weekend the CEO of our parent company, Evergreen Marketing, Inc., was able to speak at length with the CEO of (CMKX Partner) US Canadian Minerals Mr. Rendal Williams during the NHRA races in Indianapolis. We are very excited not only about the future of US Canadian Minerals (UCAD), but we are even more convinced that CMKM Diamonds is sitting on mining claims that contain precious minerals and stones that will boggle the mind. UCADfs financial commitment to CMKM Diamonds back in late July came only after viewing and interpreting survey results over portions of CMKM property.

Although CMKM Diamonds CEO Urban Casavant could not attend the races due to his involvement with matters in Saskatchewan related to drilling activity, our meeting with Mr. Williams of UCAD provided more than enough information. Mr. Williams has accepted our offer to conduct a Green Baron CEO Webcast. It will be available very soon on our website at www.thegreenbaron.com so that everyone can listen first hand to this man of extreme confidence and committed direction. The focus of our interview will be on US Canadian Minerals, but we will ask questions regarding the companyfs relationship to CMKM Diamonds.

Once again, we maintain our belief that CMKX is within weeks of a major move higher. Please remember that there is no guarantee if you should sell CMKX prior to receipt of stock dividends that you will be entitled to receive them even though you were a shareholder on the record date. Stock dividends are treated differently than cash dividends, and we recommend that you speak to an investment professional should you have further questions. The Green Baron Report does not believe in any of the dividend distribution numbers that have been posted by third parties.

The Green Baron Report believes CMKM Diamonds is diligently working on achieving a fully reporting status. We believe that once a final accounting of share structure and approximate valuation is revealed that a steady flow of positive news will follow. We believe the selling in CMKM Diamonds is slowly starting to subside, and we will finally see the stock trend higher. We encourage our members to remain focused, stay on target, and have faith like we do that CMKM Diamonds will be The Stock Play of a Lifetime.


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ya know sometimes faith & a belief something will work against all odds is very important in getting where you want to go. in stocks that normally means you end up broke. i dont think you get bigger odds then a 800 billion o/s. on the other hand every major company today started with faith & a belief. the guy on christian trader said it best....with everything going on at the boards and the possibilities of this stock it is a fun ride and i just wanted to be at the party
 
Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
HI WALLACE
Today I must report that "FAITH" turned into fact.
1-the move to .0004 recover 25% of my investment in CMKX
2-Last month I bought ECPN,GEMM,SGGM
3-Yesterday "G*D" said sell,sell,sell,and I got even + some on all cmkx related stuff.
How to explain it????????????
The tripe you throwout about only working and talking about CMKX would not have worked. Hope to many did not take your advice!
VAN
PS: My realities of Melvin, UC, CMKX $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
OH I forgot Glenn more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Posted by noahltl on :
 
JJSeabrook: Urban's Commandments
« Thread started on: Today at 12:25am »

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My lame title, but JJSeabrook's awesome post--extracted from another thread and hereby presented for the benefit of our collective sanity:
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In the CMKX bible, the only one that writes the commandments is Urban. UC issues those through PRs. Anything that does not come from UC should always be suspect, IMO. UC wasn't at the races, the interviews aren't with UC on the Christian Traders board, and I don't know of anyone that's spoken to UC recently, so anything having to do with what UC "might" do in the next 2-3 weeks, or however long it may be, is totaly speculative. Ed is NO Jesus, metaphorically speaking, in this company (CMKX). He is speaking for investors that are heavily invested in CMKX. There is NO Jesus of CMKX to pass along the words of our corporate father. (I'm not trying to compare UC to God, or Ed to Jesus, so please don't go there...the mataphor is for the finality of commandments, as PRs are at this juncture).

We are SO into our need for PRs on CMKX. This is, at this point, a non-reporting company. We've actually had a Lot of PRs in the last 4 months...something that UC didn't have to give out. No question that he should have given them, and did. When the next PR comes out, we'll want more. When the one after it comes out, we'll still want more. That's natural, and no matter how many PRs come out, there will never be enough info coming in to satisfy all of us. There will ALWAYS be complainers that we're not getting PRs like we want them, and I'm not excluding myself from this mix of wonderful people. I want more NOW, and I'll always want more, just as you do. Is my confidence shaken because I haven't gotten them in the timeframe that I would have loved for them to appear? No way!

Without listing all the possible PRs that we "might" have expected to come out by now, I just want to say that I KNOW that there is a tremendous plan that is unfolding before us. Stock Market history is in the making, and I was lucky enough to buy into a piece of that history, as were you. You either stay, and be a part of that history with its grand rewards, or you don't.

Playing the Pinks you should only invest what you can afford to lose...that's a fact. However, no matter what I invest in ANY stock, I don't want to get busted, and that's certainly happened before..most recently with GWDL/GWAD/now GAWY. That horrible dog finally died and is no longer in my portfolio, Thank God! I was sick of seeing that horrible investment I made in my portfolio each day. I was down almost 70% in that stock before I could even find the new ticker symbol for it, which changed over the weekend with a 1/1000 reverse split. It split again after that. After the first one I didn't really care. I didn't have much invested in it, but it fortified other previous lessons learned over the years. If you trade pinks you will crash and burn on some of them. I don't, in ANY way, think that will happen with CMKX, but that possibility is still there when we are not only a Pink but a non-reporting Pink.

I believe in UC, Roger, and Rendell Williams (UCAD CEO). UCAD has their ducks in line and are just waiting for us to get ours in line. They want 30 days at $5 on their PPS, and haven't gotten there yet. When OUR PRs start hitting, that we're reporting and a dozen other PRs that I could think of that haven't been reported yet, the Blastoff will occur, IMO. There will be no keeping CMKX trading at .0004 when the plan unfolds. The MMs that are shorting us are going to get bitten, and they're going to get bitten badly.

It's difficult enought to invest in a diamond mine stock, that has no diamond mine yet, when the MMs are destroying any possible increase in the PPS. Look at the SGGM PR. Why would that PR not have bounced us up a little bit on our PPS? They're still shorting us, and they are getting to YOU....if not YOU, your fellow CMKX shareholder. There have been some shares dumped in the past week. I hope they weren't any of yours. If you sold some on the run up to .12 and took profits and then bought back in at .0003 or .0004, that makes you a smart investor. How could anyone blame you for taking 1000% profits, or in that area? There's a lot of us that wish we had done that also. My commitment to the stock made me hold in that run. It cost me about 8 times, maybe only 4 times (depending on what I could sell with a gusher of shares on the market) the position that I could now hold. I didn't want to be a part of flooding that share market, right or wrong, because I believe in CMKX.

There's going to be runs an shakes coming up. There is NO roller coaster in the world that can compare to the CMKX ride that is still yet to come. That can only happen when we are reporting and have the MMs in check on their naked shorting of our stock. I think that the NS issue is pretty close to being resolved in the very near future. We will then be evaluated on valuation of the company. SGGM give us some valuation, even though they are not coming out of the holes being drilled in Canada. UCAD gives the Stockholders some valuation, which doesn't add to the PPS of CMKX since those shares were passed onto the stockholders. (Thank you UC) The CIM dividend will be worth something....this is the most volatile of our divvies. Who knows where CIM is going? It's a killer for the MMs because it's a private company. It's a kneebuster for the MMs. They're ALL kneebusters for the MMs, if you think about it. They're all low volume trading companies.

I don't know exactly how we're going to go to where we are going, but I'm confident that we're going to get there.

I'm a definite short in some stocks, but a DEFINITE long in CMKX. I agree with the Green Baron that this is the "Stock Play of a Lifetime." CMKX is going to have to play out and prove me wrong before I will consider selling off.

If my post is bifurcated, it's just because I have been working on it off and on today. I hope my message comes across in a positive manner, and is taken as such. ALL is totally MY OPINION! Run if you want, or strap down for the turbulent ride! GLTA

JJ

 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Man, is this thread dead!!! Where are all the fanatical protagonists? No fun at all.


This thread is dead?

That makes two things in here that are dying, Wallace#1...

-Adios-

 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
Lol, ahh yes Mr. Wallace, the .0001 trader girl...

Lololol!!! You are still kicking that crap can around Wally-ballz? Did the Man on the moon get you those .0001 shares?

****For anyone who just walked in*******

Let me re-cap what a certain poster cliams to have done.

Wallace#1 claims to have been the person or persons who bought in on that Friday about three weeks ago when the CMKX share price dropped for .0001 for a few minutes than back to .0003/4 again...

He claims that one of his 'Wall Street freinds' got him the deal....

It gets better people...

Wallace#1, the same person, also claims that this stock is a scam and that he has been on here for over THREE months now, trying to 'warn' newbies not to buy into the stock, saying buy anything but this... THEN he goes and claims to have bought, at a much discounted price, shares of CMKX, that he still thinks is a 'scam', yet will bilk other new investors out of money when he goes to sell them, yet still saying to people this stock is a scam... Does it smell fishy and like a french girl yet? It should...

So at what stage is Wallace's credibility ruined?

When he said this was a scam and tried to 'save' new investors?

When he claimed to buy into, in his OWN words, a 'scam'?

When he claimed to buy into this 'scam' at .0001 through an insider 'friend'...

Or when he said he doesn't mind bilking other investors out of money to try and make a quick buck? Yet he wants to help 'newbies' out... Yeah right...

If you doubt any of this, ask Wallace or better yet, re-read his old posts from June to now... You will see...

For someone who is dying you sure have a lot of time to bull-sh\t Wallace...

-John-

P.S. Still waiting for that nock on my door...

Wait there it is! No, just the mail man...


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Well now, I see that some of the CMKX protagonists have stirred! Makes it a little more interesting, especially when one suggests a "friend" is an "inisder".

Good luck to all of you. Still think I will be the one "GLOATING" in the end though and I have already made money on CMKX twice.

Nice to see the usual posters. Maybe I should list all the negatives again, since they have increased in number. Let the hornets buzz around them. LOL

No CMKX PR today either? Nothing more from UC, Glenn, and must include Melvin the muddlehead?

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 09, 2004).]
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Wallace, why would you want to gloat over anyone's misfortune? Aren't you a better person than that? If you have made money twice on cmkx, I'm happy for you. God bless.
 
Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
Where's my knock Wall-arse#0???

How's the pressure on your O2 tank holding today, Wallace

Don't worry I am only here to feed you the crap YOU stir up! SIR!

CMKX LONG AND STRONG
 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
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Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
***NEWS***

U S Cdn Minerals Inc     (OTC BB: UCAD) Last Update: 1:16:00 PM ET Sep 9, 2004  
 
U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. Exercises Additional Purchase of CMKM Diamonds Inc.'s Mineral Claims for $2,500,000 USD

LAS VEGAS, Sep 9, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. (UCAD) announced today that it has exercised a portion of its option with CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX) to purchase an additional 1.66% interest in all of CMKX's mineral claims for $2,500,000 USD. Under the agreement reached in July, UCAD has a one-year option agreement to purchase up to an aggregate total of 10% interest in all of the mineral claims held by CMKX for a total of $15 million USD payable to CMKM Diamonds Inc. With the exercise of this portion of the option and previous option exercises and transactions with CMKX, UCAD currently holds 9.16% of all of CMKX's mineral claims. Should UCAD exercise its remaining portion of its option, the company will hold 15% of all of the CMKX mineral claims.

Rendal Williams, CEO of UCAD, stated, "The company expects to exercise additional percentages under the option as we move forward, increasing our holdings and asset base with the acquisition of potentially high revenue properties."

Further details relative to this project will be forthcoming in future press releases and at http://www.uscanadian.net

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Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
So we just recieved 2.5 million in cash or will be getting very shortly...

Eat that Wallace

You lose more and more credibility by the second.

-Byrd-
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
When POS Speak for themselves:

"Still think I will be the one "GLOATING" in the end though and I have already made money on CMKX twice."

That sums up "Wallace#1"...

Don't worry I know a few of us will be "GLOATING" when you drop dead...

Chao!

-Byrd- (P.S. Wallace go clean your car, I left you a present on the Windsheld)
 


Posted by gmac78 on :
 
Byrd,
LOL--- You are a "trip"!!!

Sic him!

------------------
gmac
 


Posted by will on :
 
.0003 / .0004 , we have to do better than that.
The NSS date I take it has been moved from 8/20 to 9/24. I'll be waiting to see if it happens then. If it doesn't then I'm sure it should ocurr the pay date of the CIM dividend. Just waiting for some movement in the PPS.

 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Volume low again today - 1,000,452,224 as of 1:38 PM. And this hasnt even rolled over once yet.

Feels like I am talking about an odometer on an old Pontiac........
 


Posted by rde3 on :
 
rollin rollin rollin, Yaa hoo !!!!!

Before you ask, the money came from a private placement made yesterday. Check out UCAD's PR for yesterday....
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Hi will,

Guess I will go back to sleep now that I have awakened all the flys and hornets.

Bye y'all!
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
So who is the private investor?
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
SGGM sure has a different face today dosent it?

Profit taking maybe?
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
So who is the private investor?

SGGM ????????

 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
NOAH - I have always watched and respected your posts - thank you.

SGGM?

Almost has to make you maybe wonder dosent it?
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
Yes Wallace, go crawl back into your little hole...

P.S. I left you a little 'byrdie' surprise down there... Ohhh, and yes, this byrd ate four pounds of blueberries just for you

Tiddlely-winks Wallace

-John-
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
The money could also becoming from private individuals connected within or connected to SGGM, UCAD, ect...

Suppose a few 'real' investors, people with one or two plus million dollars, ready to jump into CMKX... If they contacted CMKX would it be unethical for Roger (not that he would do anything unethical, in my opinion) or Urban to stear these people into these other companies perhaps, revitalizing capital for the other mining companies, who I must say have much needed equipment (perhaps this is why we are getting them onboard, or one of many reasons?) to use for drilling...

So my question is perhaps more private investors are going straight to them, in addition to taking stock positions, to these other companies, UCAD, SGGM, EL Captain, CIM even (perhaps?), CMKX in the end would get the money, or a chunk of it, while at the same time, these other companies get a new influx of cash, which could lead to more investors. Would this be illegal or unethical for CMKX to steer big-time investors to these other companies, knowing in the end CMKX gets the cash, everyone benfits this way, no? At first glimps I don't see what would be wrong with that.

Thoughts?

-John-

[This message has been edited by blueeyedtraderboy (edited September 09, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Judy, one of the mods at PalTalk, called SGGM IR person again today and got update. Here are her notes from the conversation:


stated by jcline on paltalk:

located in Canada outside of Edmonton, Vicky
no prospectus right now
Offices located outside of Virginia
Has nothing to do with SGGM anymore just a mailbox in VA
handle of PRs coming out in the next week or so.
Nevada based company
T-agent is pac-west
not sure how long that will last
Brand new deal with new board of directors starting from scratch
PR in next week, probably early next week.
company went dormant, and has something to do with war zone
several PRs coming
no answer as to why a/s so high
any connection between unico and mort company, not to her knowledge
asked about 10 million, said that would be PRed
she used to be married to a "kevin curran" but he is not affiliated
website was an old website, that got so many hits yesterday they removed it, and are rebuilding website. that will be PRed.
handful of prs coming from this Friday till early next week explaining.
No info on Blusson.

jcline1: SGGM is a “NEW DEAL” company that has been dormant for 15 years and there will be a new BOD, business plan, etc. that will be PR’ed within the Next week
jcline1: Located outside of Edmonton, Canada. The Virgina office is no longer part of it.
jcline1: There will be a handful of PR’s coming late this week ..early next week that will explain most everything.
jcline1: There will be a new website… the old one up yesterday could not handle the traffic. There will be a PR about the website too
jcline1: Nothing on the A/S as to why so high.
jcline1: They are not connected to the MorNorth/Unico that she knows of.
jcline1: Kevin Curran of North Star Res.PetroPlus is not part of SGGM





 


Posted by rde3 on :
 
I don't think the MM's know what to do with all this information.... Ha Ha Ha LMAO !!!!
 
Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
Really makes me whish I had money to put into SGGM... Lol... the level II's are crazy...

Ohhh well... Our day will come It is still a good price and chance to get cheap shares

There is always a plus side of being held down at these levels... Accumulation!!

40 dollars gets you 100k shares, remember on its way upto two cents, you can flip that and get some of your orginal investment, all in my case, hehe..

All these companies seem to becomming active when the align themselves with CMKX. People are shelling out serious cash, not just big investors, the little guys like us...

We hold cliams that are the size of RHODE ISALND...

Guys... we are just miles away from Debeer's pipe, as well as Shore's...

We have precise areial maps showing potential mineral hotspots...

We have huge influx of cash comming in...

It is heating up and honestly, I think things are moving alot faster now... Think back to May/June when there was no news, or the intital vague news, look how more concrete things have become. We have cash on hand from these deals, things are going through... CMKX and their partners really seem to be picking up speed.

-Byrd-

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Posted by dwman on :
 
I thought this was rather interesting. I wonder if they are involved with SGGM. From their study, Canada is number 2 in a list of the ten best countries to invest in minerals. Some interesting stuff in the left side menu.

http://www.dolbear.com/rankingcountries%202003%20Survey%20120502fullpres_files/frame.htm


 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
"South Africa - 7 to 4 - Required Distribution of Properties to “Disadvantaged” is a Tax "

Yeah I really want my investment dollars going to SA...

-byrd-
http://www.dolbear.com/rankingcountries%202003%20Survey%20120502fullpres_files/frame.htm

[This message has been edited by blueeyedtraderboy (edited September 09, 2004).]
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
http://www.dolbear.com/personnelLM.htm

Note that Rachal Lewis, Jr. is a former VP of St. George Metals. I don't know what this has to do with anything but Behre Dolbear & Company, Inc sure has some technically bright people working for them. Some specialize in structuring for mergers. Like I said...maybe they are not remotely associated with any of our companies. JMO
 


Posted by HarryHar on :
 
Let's keep in mind that a company has to have pretty damn good proof that their money is going to a place that is going to let it grow before they decide to throw millions of dollars into an investment such as CMKX. This is what, the 4th? 5th? company in the last couple months that's given considerable stock and/or cash to own part of CMKX's claims?
 
Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
JEAL
The point is that it isn't just an investor; it is many different folks have come forward to accept some kind of deal.
The thing to remember is that either they came to CMKX or CMKX solicited them, In any case these folks were presented information NOT available to us as shareholders.
IF you are a "sleuth" searching for clues and 5,6,7 people react to something in the same way, you can logically assume they are being told the same thing. Whatever this is must be good because the shareholders of all these companies suddenly spikes.
My plan is to purchase each of these companys in proportion to the value they hold in relationship to CMKX.
Then as CMKX comes into it's own (which it must) or all these saavy investors will be VERY UNHAPPY.
VAN
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
zeninvestor: ROGER = "ATOMIC FIREPOWER"!

Posted by: zeninvestor32
In reply to: None Date:9/7/2004 10:25:52 PM
Post #of 11691

GOOD POST. NEW DD.

Kudos to diamonddays on RB for this nugget dug up on Roger. Hadn't seen it before. There is a section in the PDF on deals valued at $150M+ that month. Roger's deal is in there (pp. 20-21). As a side note, I can tell you that 80-90% of the counsel used in the deals listed on these pages are THE MOST PRESTIGIOUS LAW FIRMS IN THE COUNTRY. For what it's worth, I kind of chuckled at one of the deals since I had worked with the partner that was on that deal (he was a complete nutjob but about as brilliant as they get). Yes, do your own research if you'd like but I can tell you that when you are in the company of Cravath Swain, Jones Day, Wilson Sonsini, Morrison & Forrester, Weil Gotshal, Wachtell Lipton you are amongst rare air in the legal world. Run those names by your lawyer friends and you will see. Deals at this level require the MOST COMPETENT legal counsel available in the country. I am in this stock today for the same reasons, or I should say reason, as I was the day I initiatied my cmkx position. Roger. Period. Nice find Diamonddays. Just more evidence that we are in the hands of someone with tremendous expertise, and someone at a level that shorts have likely not faced before. Most pinks/otcs will rattle sabers about the shorting but have no firepower to do anything about it. And the shorts absolutely KNOW it. IMO, Roger is not saber rattling. IMO, he is delivering an ultimatum backed by atomic firepower. And the shorts absolutely KNOW it. The ONLY advantage the shorts had IMO is that they knew this would take TIME to unfold. And they tried to play that card to the hilt rather than begin an earnest campaign of covering from the start. And IMO this strategy has backfired and Roger has made their escape that much more difficult. I don't know when the knockout blow will come but I doubt the shorts can dance around the ring much longer. They are well overmatched at this stage IMO.
http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=78476


Z

As always, these are my personal opinions.

Hopefully nobody in here is investing anything but "fun" money that they can afford to gamble with.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=3983293
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 

This is a second hand repost. The original poster is a know basher on RB, so be careful on thin one. But if true, it would be very telling of our links with SGGM


spaz

Got this off RB, take it for what it's worth

FROM iHUB board re: SGGM and IR being UC's niece http://www.investorshub.com/boards/replies.asp?msg=4001836
Posted by: trade15
In reply to: janice shell who wrote msg# 93800 Date: 9/9/2004 5:35:42 P

I noticed the name Vicky Curran mentioned the other day , and that she's suppose to be the IR of SGGM . Well I waited until I checked my notes at my other house to make sure I had remembered the name correctly. This is funny , Vicky Curran is Urban Casavants niece , and actually is Ron Casavant's daughter. Remember when I mentioned about the family member who I was told was in over their head in CMKX?

Wasn't it just the other day that Urban was quoted as saying he didn't know anything about SGGM ? Sure seems funny that he wouldn't know about a company that his niece works for.

 


Posted by case on :
 
Sorry if todays article has been posted
already. I just skimmed over todays talks here
and didn't notice todays article:

U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. Exercises Additional Purchase of CMKM Diamonds Inc.'s Mineral Claims for $2,500,000 USD

Business Wire via COMTEX

Sep 9, 2004 1:16:00 PM

LAS VEGAS, Sep 9, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) --

U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. (OTCBB: UCAD) announced today that it has exercised a portion of its option with CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX) to purchase an additional 1.66% interest in all of CMKX's mineral claims for $2,500,000 USD. Under the agreement reached in July, UCAD has a one-year option agreement to purchase up to an aggregate total of 10% interest in all of the mineral claims held by CMKX for a total of $15 million USD payable to CMKM Diamonds Inc. With the exercise of this portion of the option and previous option exercises and transactions with CMKX, UCAD currently holds 9.16% of all of CMKX's mineral claims. Should UCAD exercise its remaining portion of its option, the company will hold 15% of all of the CMKX mineral claims.

Rendal Williams, CEO of UCAD, stated, "The company expects to exercise additional percentages under the option as we move forward, increasing our holdings and asset base with the acquisition of potentially high revenue properties."

Further details relative to this project will be forthcoming in future press releases and at http://www.uscanadian.net/.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

Statements contained in this document which are not historical fact are forward-looking statements based upon management's current expectations that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in or implied by forward-looking statements.

SOURCE: U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc.

U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. Chris Hanneman, 303-220-8476

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Posted by will on :
 
Right, like someone here would miss that, lol
 
Posted by kbpkt on :
 
Not sure if someone here already posted this or not. Sorry for the double post if it has been posted already.
http://www.stockpatrol.com/schlock/doghouse/u_cmkm5.html
 
Posted by case on :
 
Will:
I'm not to great with under standing these articles.
Is this article U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. Exercises Additional Purchase of CMKM Diamonds Inc.'s Mineral Claims for $2,500,000 USD

Is this GOOD news or Not, I'm a NEWBY (as you guys call begingers) So is this Good or Not???
Thanks for any help!!
Casey
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
I'd say this is good news as it gives us capital from a affiliate company that has drilling equipment Sounds good to me!

There are a few more surprises in my opinion that are comming our way... SGGM was sort of a surprise... so maybe there will be a few more mining companies to come out? Let's hope so!

-John-
 


Posted by case on :
 
blueeyedtraderboy:
Thanks for the answer!
NOW, I'm getting excited!
Thanks for helping me under stand it better!
Take care!
Casey
 
Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
Just keep in mind something unsual is happening, and so far it seems to be good, free shares of three companies, possibly more to come...

I think all together we will recivie (we being CMKX Diamonds) roughly 20 million+ in Cash... In addition to all these shares...

That is money for new property elsewhere for later on, money for share buy back, money for dividends, money for drilling equipment, the uses are endless..

-John-
 


Posted by kbpkt on :
 
Click on this link...
http://www.stockpatrol.com/schlock/doghouse/u_cmkm5.html

I think you will understand these PR's a little better.
 


Posted by case on :
 
blueeyedtraderboy:
So, do you think the share price
will go up from the .0004 ?
Like hiting .01 would be GREAT!!!
You're a big help! Thank You again!!
 
Posted by will on :
 
Just don't get too excited. Someone gives someone 2.5M$, for 1.66% of their total claims, sounds like good to news to me. Good news for CMKX, they have an additional 2.5M$. You have to belive if UCAD is willing to give 2.5M$ they ain't buying a pig in the poke. So, it better end up being good news for them too, which could be good news for everyone.
There are still a lot of unanswered
questions regarding CMKX:

O/S
Share structure
Results of last core samples
Progress in becoming a reporting company

All these moves and dividends are good, but just remember the downside. So, again, don't get too excited.

quote:
Originally posted by case:
blueeyedtraderboy:
Thanks for the answer!
NOW, I'm getting excited!
Thanks for helping me under stand it better!
Take care!
Casey


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
case,

Suggest you wait for an answer from "will" on CMKX before you get too excited over what you were just told.

Bye
 


Posted by case on :
 
Any one:
So, do you think the share price
will go up from the .0004 ?
Like hiting .01 would be GREAT!!!
You're a big help! Thank You again!!
I was thinking about buying more!
Then I would have 3 millionn shares and
if it hit .01 that would be $30000
if I did the math right!!

[This message has been edited by case (edited September 09, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
Yea it would be great. "IF", the big IF, it ever hit .01, you could expect alot more behind that. You asked if I thought it could hit .01. That's possible IF all those open issues are answered, favorably. I would be very sceptical of that happening though. If you want to make quick money here, it appears Van has the answer. Buy shares of the companies CMKX is making deals with. UCAD was about $3 when the announced their deal, went to about $6 - 7, SGGM was .01 when they announced their deal, went to .70, GEMM had a more modest gain, didn't follow the numbers, I'm sure someone did. I don't know how this thing will play out. Some people believe whole heartedly in CMKX and the management, others think CMKX is ran by clowns. If they find enough diamonds, Bozo could be running it, and they'll make money. Question is, what will CMKX be when they do find diamonds?

quote:
Originally posted by case:
WiLL:
So, do you think the share price
will go up from the .0004 ?
Like hiting .01 would be GREAT!!!
You're a big help! Thank You again!!



 


Posted by case on :
 
Thank You!
I'm going to get off the computer, so I can
call my girl friend and tell her we will
be able to buy that house when we get
married, maybe a GREAT honey moon also.
Thank you guys for the help!!
Bye!
 
Posted by will on :
 
As sugar plums dance in his head, and when he awakes he finds that wasn't sugar plums at all, but the dogsh|t fairy snuck into his dreams, and smeared something else in his hair.
quote:
Originally posted by case:
Thank You!
I'm going to get off the computer, so I can
call my girl friend and tell her we will
be able to buy that house when we get
married, maybe a GREAT honey moon also.
Thank you guys for the help!!
Bye!


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by case:
Thank You!
I'm going to get off the computer, so I can
call my girl friend and tell her we will
be able to buy that house when we get
married, maybe a GREAT honey moon also.
Thank you guys for the help!!
Bye!


Case, you've been on Allstocks longer than I have, so your exuberance is a bit puzzling. But if you're for real, I am accused of being one of the most positive posters here on CMKX, but I wouldn't put a down payment on that house yet. For once I have to agree with Wallace........Get some more opinions and do more DD before you jump in farther than you would want to be.


 


Posted by will on :
 
See, there is a responsibility that comes with posting. There's a guy that only saw what he wanted to see. I wasn't trying to save him, only tell him, "hey there's a downside here too."
I guess he already had his mind made up. Seems you can't give people advice on this stock. They see .0004, and think a penny, and somehow are spending $30,000.
People are influenced by comments on these boards. If they only see the positive side and not the negative side they don't understand the risks. I know it is his responsibility to investigate things for himslef, but he didn't and won't. He took the shortcut, and came here.
Hope that house he's planning on doesn't wind up being behind an appliance store, those refridgerator boxes tend to get soggy in the rain.

 
Posted by will on :
 
Well, noah, I commend you. I do think mr. case was putting us on though. He seemed too gullible. That's ok though, was a good "case" study of what could be.

quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:

Case, you've been on Allstocks longer than I have, so your exuberance is a bit puzzling. But if you're for real, I am accused of being one of the most positive posters here on CMKX, but I wouldn't put a down payment on that house yet. For once I have to agree with Wallace........Get some more opinions and do more DD before you jump in farther than you would want to be.


[This message has been edited by will (edited September 09, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by will (edited September 09, 2004).]
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
.01 would be SWEET,but I don't think it'll happen over night.I think it'll take some substance(what will said).No BS,substance.

I think UCADs 2.5 mill U.S.$ for 1.66% of CMKXs 1,400,000 acres mineral rights in todays PR,also see the last PR(10,000,000 U.S.$) can't do anything but help us get some substance(((REVENUE!!!)))
 


Posted by case on :
 
Thats not nice to talk about me being gullable!!
My girl friend went shopping, so I told
my future father in Law and all he did was laugh at me. I just don't under stand why every one likes to steal peoples DREAMS!!
noahltl - You are right though!
Risky this stock is!
But, you don't get rich by following the crowd!!You get rich by doing what others will do before they do it! This stock does have a lot of ifs, but I haven't ran across one like this one and all of it doesn't make sense to me as I never experienced one quite like this one. With my LUCK they will go bankrupt and give their claims away. You guys take care, I'm for ever reading. You guys help me out alot!!
Casey!
 
Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
I don't know I see today's news as neutral at best. Yes we got 2.5 million but that's a drop in the bucket, well actually a drop in the ocean when you consider 800b O/S, but we lost 1.66% of our mineral claims, our valuation, our future profits. If our mineral claims were worth "only" 100b (I think they're worth a lot more than that), CMKX just gave UCAD 1.66b $. Not bad for 2.5 mill. Go ahead, call me a basher LOL, I'm grumpy today.
 
Posted by will on :
 
case wrote:
"With my LUCK they will go bankrupt and give their claims away."

I don't see where that scenario is connected exclusuvely to his luck. Might be on to something there though ??? I'd say an outcome like that would have nothing to do with luck.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Wouldn't worry too much about case. Seems to know his way around pretty well:


case
Member posted April 29, 2004 21:52
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I figured it would be easier
to research if we devided
the .0001 to .0009
.001 to .01
I have NOT research the following, but they were in the GREEN today!
DFRC .004
DRDF .0065
EESV .0024
CSCA .0062
AQCI .007
ALL WAYS DD before BUYING!!

IP: Logged

case
Member posted April 29, 2004 22:03
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you are a pumper. You
can pump under the price range
all you want as far as I'm concerned.
I look up every stock before
I buy and don't buy just because its
posted.
ALL WAYS DO THE DD THING!!


 


Posted by will on :
 
Me worry, about case? NEVER!
Matter of fact he came the closest to articulating my fears when he said, it woould be his luck they go BK and give away all their claims.
 
Posted by case on :
 
Will:
"With my LUCK they will go bankrupt and give their claims away."

I have had that happen while
playing these pennies, so it wouldn't be the first time, Only it wasn't claims, but thier whole business given to a private company,
so I never put any pennie stock past the thought. (All most wiped me out from playing)
I've got to go, check out UCAD pretty impressive for a penny stock!!
Take care!


UCAD -- U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc.
Com ($0.001)
Primary Venue: Dually Quoted on Pink Sheets and OTC Bulletin Board

Best Bid: Unpriced
Best Ask: Unpriced
TRADE DATA
Best Bid: 5.200 Best Ask: 5.300
Last Sale: 5.250
Change: +0.150
Percent Change: +2.94
Tick: Up
Daily High: 5.500 Daily Low: 5.000
Opening Price: 5.100 Volume: 33,005
Annual High: 7.500
Annual Low: 0.750
Dividend: 0.000 Earnings/Share: 0.00
Previous Close: 5.100 P/E ratio: N/A
Yield: 0.00
News Beta Coefficient: 1.65
 


Posted by will on :
 
"I have had that happen while
playing these pennies, so it wouldn't be the first time, Only it wasn't claims, but thier whole business given to a private company,
so I never put any pennie stock past the thought."

Pretty choppy sentence, but I can guess you all get his meaning. A possibility ???
 


Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
Noah, you have shown me again and again that DD does not have to be limited to the company and it's partners for this board to benefit from it. Thanks.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Money_Penny:
Noah, you have shown me again and again that DD does not have to be limited to the company and it's partners for this board to benefit from it. Thanks.


Any time Money.


 


Posted by will on :
 
So, no lesson to be learned from case's staged newbie act?
He was just a basher in gullible clothing?
Is the scnerio he posed a possibility? I noticed no one touched that one.

 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
LOL.I'll touch it...Time will tell.
 
Posted by will on :
 
The old "time" arguement. No cigar, child.

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
LOL.I'll touch it...Time will tell.


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Well, that's the one thing I got.LOL
 
Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
There are only two scenarios that will make me sell this stock...

1. PPS so high I can retire
2. More than 50% of our original claims belong to others
 


Posted by will on :
 
What percentage has been sold already? What percentage is still optioned?

quote:
Originally posted by Money_Penny:
There are only two scenarios that will make me sell this stock...

1. PPS so high I can retire
2. More than 50% of our original claims belong to others



 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
I don't Think UCADs % counts.
Rendel Williams-1 U.C. at INDY=same direction to me.
 
Posted by case on :
 
Will:
A BASHER! GIVE ME A BREAK!!
"He was just a basher in gullible clothing?"
I've got a lot tied up into cmkx!
More like just bored reading the same ole same ole, of you guys going back and forth arguing
about this stock, Some saying its a scam, others saying no is not.
It could be scam or it might be a diamond in the rye. You are right, I'm not a newby and I've been on this board since Chicago Joe was here, (who is my all time favorite)
I like Dadog, all though I don't have the tools that Dadog uses.
(http://www.microcaptrade.com/otc/index.jsp)
I can asure you. I am no pumper and I am no BASHER! Like I said, Just bored and wanted to have some fun. I probably shouldn't of had decided to have some fun with you guys, but I couldn't help it. (the devil made me do it)
But, I'm not pulling your leg, when I don't under stand every thing cmkx is doing! I hope its for the good of the share holders.
TRUST ME THOUGH! I'M NEITHER PUMPER OR BASHER! You guys can go back to fighting back and forth, I'll still take a quick glance at it. Looking forward to your next news letter.
Take care!
Casey

 
Posted by will on :
 
What? It all counts in the scenario case proposed.
quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
I don't Think UCADs % counts.
Rendel Williams-1 U.C. at INDY=same direction to me.


 


Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
Will, don't know and too lazy to go through the last few PRs to find out (I'm sure somebody here knows the answer already - come on bashers, what is it???).

Highway, why do you think UCAD does not count???
 


Posted by will on :
 
case, I think you misunderstood me? I asked if others thought you a basher in gullible clothing? Seems that was their implication. I am of the same opinion you are regarding this company. No one knows. Since you offered the possibility of selling claims, and leaving it with no value I was just curious about what others thought. The outstanding questions are still not answered. I'll spare everyone and not list them again. Only the company can answer them.

quote:
Originally posted by case:
Will:
A BASHER! GIVE ME A BREAK!!
"He was just a basher in gullible clothing?"
I've got a lot tied up into cmkx!
More like just bored reading the same ole same ole, of you guys going back and forth arguing
about this stock, Some saying its a scam, others saying no is not.
It could be scam or it might be a diamond in the rye. You are right, I'm not a newby and I've been on this board since Chicago Joe was here, (who is my all time favorite)
I like Dadog, all though I don't have the tools that Dadog uses.
(http://www.microcaptrade.com/otc/index.jsp)
I can asure you. I am no pumper and I am no BASHER! Like I said, Just bored and wanted to have some fun. I probably shouldn't of had decided to have some fun with you guys, but I couldn't help it. (the devil made me do it)
But, I'm not pulling your leg, when I don't under stand every thing cmkx is doing! I hope its for the good of the share holders.
TRUST ME THOUGH! I'M NEITHER PUMPER OR BASHER! You guys can go back to fighting back and forth, I'll still take a quick glance at it. Looking forward to your next news letter.
Take care!
Casey


 


Posted by will on :
 
Too lazy, lol. Then you're not going to know when it is greater than 50%, and you'll miss your sell point. However, I understand lazy. I just keep going back to that very first UCAD deal, Upman can find the PR. They got claims back in April, May, June, cheap, cheap, cheap. I think it was $50,000 split three ways, CMKX's end is about $17,000. Just seemed to sweet to me. almost like a give away. I often wonder about the true ownership of UCAD.

quote:
Originally posted by Money_Penny:
Will, don't know and too lazy to go through the last few PRs to find out (I'm sure somebody here knows the answer already - come on bashers, what is it???).

Highway, why do you think UCAD does not count???



 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
I think UCAD & CMKX are on the same page.
R.W.was at the Indy races in place of U.C.
He said he wants what CMKX has.
IMO he NEEDS what U.C. has.He has put his neck on the block.UCAD want's CMKX to become a reporting co. so they can move up to the AMEX.
 
Posted by case on :
 
Will:
What you guys, really think really don't make a difference to me.
What my main concern is about them doing is a MASG play.Giving the claims away and leaving share holders holding the bag. Thats all.
I hope this baby flies better than MASG.
I'm always a little gun shy of that happening again. Take care, I'll catch you later. I'm
tired and have to go to work tomorrow.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Still, when the claims are sold they are gone. Think of the value of CMKX in the end. Same page means nothing. You own CMKX and a smigion of UCAD, 9/24/04.

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
I think UCAD & CMKX are on the same page.
R.W.was at the Indy races in place of U.C.
He said he wants what CMKX has.
IMO he NEEDS what U.C. has.He has put his neck on the block.UCAD want's CMKX to become a reporting co. so they can move up to the AMEX.


 


Posted by will on :
 
I recall MASG. They had a PR come out saying the abritrator ruled against them in a 21M$ suit. They tried to put a favorable spin on the news and went to court. I sold as soon as I saw the PR regarding the finding of the arbritrator, losing only 10%. Of course the court agreed with the arbritrator. It went from over .01 to a micro penny. I saw it on my volume list yesterday closed at .0009. Good reason to be shy. Things like that do happen.

quote:
Originally posted by case:
Will:
What you guys, really think really don't make a difference to me.
What my main concern is about them doing is a MASG play.Giving the claims away and leaving share holders holding the bag. Thats all.
I hope this baby flies better than MASG.
I'm always a little gun shy of that happening again. Take care, I'll catch you later. I'm
tired and have to go to work tomorrow.


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Still, when the claims are sold they are gone. Think of the value of CMKX in the end. Same page means nothing. You own CMKX and a smigion of UCAD, 9/24/04.


Noone knows for sure. It'll come down to who's more intelligant,OR if they(U.C & R.W.) are truly working together on this.
 


Posted by will on :
 
So, what are you saying? UC owns UCAD through. with, by, etc... RW?
Interesting proposition, if that's waht you're saying ???

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
Noone knows for sure. It'll come down to who's more intelligant,OR if they(U.C & R.W.) are truly working together on this.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
highwaychild,

There is NO WAY they - CMKX - could qualify for an AMEX listing. They will be lucky to get out of the pinks to OTC-BB. EARNINGS! EARNINGS!

They are more likely to go bankrupt than to show any earnings whatsoever.
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Not talkin' about CMKX,they'll have to be on OTC.bb before UCAD can be on AMEX.

I'm gone.this INDY. and N.E. game is gettining too good.I've got to watch this.
 


Posted by will on :
 
I'll have to think about mr. case's scenario in conjunction with childs suspicions about UC & RW.
What would that spell, Wallace?

[This message has been edited by will (edited September 09, 2004).]
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Will,

Since they have shown no record of earnings, they would not qualify for an AMEX listing either.

As far as ownership of UCAD and CMKX is concerned, there is no question in my mind that the Casavant family own control of CMKX.
With UCAD, I am not 100% sure, but I do not think UC or family have any major interest. My guess is that Rendal Williams owns control of UCAD or it is whoever owns both Nevada Minerals and IB2000 that controls UCAD. Remember, at least some time back, it was an S3 filing with the SEC that indicated Nev Min and IB2000 (both privately held firms) combined owned what appeared to be a controlling interest in UCAD. I have tried to find out the specific ownership control of Nevada Minerals/IB2000 with no luck, but I think that is a major key as to the control of UCAD. It may be Williams, a guy named Jarvis, or someone else...remotely possible that it is UC.

I could be wrong, but I see no combination of CMKX and UCAD.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 10, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
Well, wouldn't that be interesting if it was UC? Just something to think about.

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Will,

Since they have shown no record of earnings, they would not qualify for an AMEX listing either.

As far as ownership of UCAD and CMKX is concerned, there is no question in my mind that the Casavant family own control of CMKX.
With UCAD, I am not 100% sure, but I do not think UC or family have any major interest. My guess is that Rendal Williams owns control of UCAD or it is whoever owns both Nevada Minerals and IB2000 that controls UCAD. Remember, at least some time back, it was an S3 filing with the SEC that indicated Nev Min and IB2000 (both privately held firms) combined owned what appeared to be a controlling interest in UCAD. I have tried to find out the specific ownership control of Nevada Minerals/IB2000 with no luck, but I think that is a major key as to the control of UCAD. It may be Williams, a guy named Jarvis, or someone else...remotely possible that it is UC.



 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
OK everybody here is the connection that I have been looking for. Everyone remeber Mirador. That's the company that we were going to merge with, but was put on hold.

Mirador later became Vway International. Vway is still an active corp and registered with the Secy of State Nev at the exact same address as St George Metals. Even the same suite #.


Name: ST. GEORGE METALS, INC.

Type: Corporation File Number: C4070-1984 State: NEVADA Incorporated On: June 13, 1984
Status: Reinstated Corp Type: Regular
Resident Agent: MARK GIEBELHAUS (Accepted)
Address: 1350 E FLAMINGO RD #688

LAS VEGAS NV 89119-
President: MARK GIEBELHAUS
Address: 1350 E. FLAMINGO RD #688

LAS VEGAS NV 89119-
Secretary:



Name: VWAY INTERNATIONAL

Type: Corporation File Number: C5169-1987 State: NEVADA Incorporated On: July 08, 1987
Status: Reinstated Corp Type: Regular
Resident Agent: GORDON FORGEY (Accepted)
Address: 1350 E. FLAMINGO RD
#688
LAS VEGAS NV 89119-
President: GORDON FORGEY
Address: 1350 E. FLAMINGO RD
#688
LAS VEGAS NV 89119-
Secretary: GORDON FORGEY
Address: 1350 E. FLAMINGO RD
#688
LAS VEGAS NV 89119-
Treasurer: GORDON FORGEY
Address: 1350 E. FLAMINGO RD
#688
LAS VEGAS NV 89119-

Name: VWAY INTERNATIONAL (VWYI)

Type: Corporation
File Number: C5169-1987
State: NEVADA
Incorporated On: July 08, 1987

Status: Reinstated
Corp Type: Regular

Resident Agent:
GORDON FORGEY (Accepted)
Address: 1350 E. FLAMINGO RD #688
LAS VEGAS NV 89119-

President: GORDON FORGEY
Address: 1350 E. FLAMINGO RD #688
LAS VEGAS NV 89119-

Secretary: GORDON FORGEY
Address: 1350 E. FLAMINGO RD #688
LAS VEGAS NV 89119-

Treasurer: GORDON FORGEY
Address: 1350 E. FLAMINGO RD #688
LAS VEGAS NV 89119-

DailyListDate|Type|NewSymbol|OldSymbol|NewName|OldName|EffDate|Comments|Notes|CoPhone|Mkt_Cat
07/01/2004 13:45:36|S2|VWYI|MRDR|VWAY International Common Stock|MIRADOR INC Common Stock|07/02/2004|1-500 R/S **|||u http://www.otcbb.com/dailylist/txthistory/BB07012004.txt


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Will,

It just makes no sense to me that UC, no matter what anyone may think of him, would be messing around with a company like CMKX selling at .0004 when, if he controlled UCAD, he could mess around with a company selling for a considerably larger amount per share.

Someone should ask Melvin. LOL

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 10, 2004).]
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
My compliments, noahltl. That was what I do call DD. Nice find.!

Good night.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
My compliments, noahltl. That was what I do call DD. Nice find.!

Good night.


Thanks Wallace, with us agreeing twice tonight, we're almost buddies.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
The downside on the address is that it is just a rental mailbox.
http://www.kitcar.com/consumeralert/Ck3/research-suite.html
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
as has been said in here before if you follow the trail of companies remotely involved in cmkx and buy their stock there is money to be made. that stock noah found opened at 1.11 droped to .85 and closed at 1.18...has a 52 wk high of 25.00 and that was before a 1:500 r/s
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Very interesting theory by Pedro. Long, but worth the read.

Posted by: Pedro2004
In reply to: None Date:9/10/2004 9:36:18 AM
Post #of 94019

Pedro’s Theory

Everyone out there is posting their own theories about CMKX.

What the heck!
I will post mine.

The following is my opinion.

IMO – Remember that!

Will the PPS of CMKX ever reach: “To The Moon?”


No.
Never!

If you are waiting for the PR on the O/S, hoping the PPS of CMKX will reach the Pennies?
It will never happen.

If you are waiting for a PR on the Mother Load, hoping the PPS of CMKX will reach the Pennies?
It will never happen.


Why?
There are 1.5 Trillion Shares of CMKX being traded on the market.
Every time the PPS goes up, shareholders of the 1.5 trillion (shares) will sell.
Selling will lower the PPS.

Why?
The MM’s will never allow CMKX to reach into the Pennies.
Every time the PPS goes up, the MM’s will continue to short sale CMKX into oblivion.
Selling (NSS) will lower the PPS.

In other words:
There are too many shares on the open market (1.5 Trillion Shares).
And, the MM’s can create as many “more” shares as they want.

What do we know about the Carolyn Core Analysis?


Nothing!

///////////////

What do we know from the Canadian JV Partner’s PR?
http://www.stockhouse.com/news/news.asp?newsid=2332437&tick=UCA

Five (5) holes were drilled.
Let’s break down each drilled hole separately by percentages.

Hole #1 = 20%
Hole #2 = 20%
Hole #3 = 20%
Hole #4 = 20%
Hole #5 = 20%
Total = 100%

Only two (2) Holes were sampled
(The results are for holes #1 and #2).

Of these two holes sampled, only 50% of each hole was sampled
(The samples are of split NQ, and the other half of the core has been retained in a secure warehouse).

Therefore each hole should be broken down into “Sampled” and “Not Sampled”

Hole #1 = Sampled = 10%
Hole #1 = Not Sampled = 10%
Hole #2 = Sampled = 10%
Hole #2 = Not Sampled = 10%
Hole #3 = Sampled = 0.00%
Hole #3 = Not Sampled = 20%
Hole #4 = Sampled = 0.00%
Hole #4 = Not Sampled = 20%
Hole #5 = Sampled = 0.00%
Hole #5 = Not Sampled = 20%
Total = 100%

Add up the percentage “Sampled” and percentage “Not Sampled:”

Sampled = 20%
Not Sampled = 80%

//////////////

20% of the drilled samples have been tested for “Diamonds.”
80% of the drilled samples have NOT been tested for “Diamonds.”

0.00% of the drilled samples have been tested for “Other Valuable Materials.”
100% of the drilled samples have NOT been tested for “Other Valuable Materials".

What do we know about the UCAD Stock Dividend?


The good part about the UCAD Stock Dividend is that we know the “Issued and O/S Shares of CMKX.”
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dividend.asp?sym_id=CMKX&dDate=08/20/2004&sDateType=Record_date

///////////////

What is the Issued and O/S Shares of CMKX?
(7,500,000) / (0.00000962) = 779,625,779,626

The Issued and O/S Shares of CMKX is: 779,625,779,626 Shares

///////////////

How many shares of UCAD will we receive?
(1) / (0.00000962) = 103,950

We will receive one (1) share of UCAD for every 103,950 shares of CMKX

///////////////

What we DO NOT KNOW is:

What are the Restricted Shares of CMKX?
What is the Tradable Float of CMKX?

///////////////

On September 24, 2004: The Pay Date of the UCAD Stock Dividend.
On this date we will know the true “Issued and O/S Shares of CMKX.”

What do we know about the CIM Stock Dividend?


Before we continue, you must understand the ratio structure of the CIM Dividend.

Normally a dividend ratio is calculated by using the “Issued and O/S Shares” of a company. Just like UCAD above.

However, CIM is different.

The CIM Dividend Ratio is calculated by using the “Total Shares Owned by All Shareholders.”

You need to understand the wording of the PR that was issued.
The key words are:
----- Pro Rata
----- All CMKM shareholders
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040719/196042_1.html

///////////////

What is UC doing?

Let’s use this example:

There are 1.5 Trillion Shares of CMKX on the market.

Hypothetically, I personally own 150 Billion Shares.
Therefore, I would own 10% of all CMKX shares on the market.

Forget about the percentage (%) based on the A/S of 800 Billion Shares.
Forget about the percentage (%) based on the O/S of 779.5 Billion Shares (from UCAD above).
Focus only on “All CMKM Shareholders,” all tradable shares on the market, all shares owned by all shareholders. All of the Real and NSS shares on the tradable market.


Hypothetically, I personally own 10% of all CMKX shares on the market.
There are 40 Billion CIM Shares available for the dividend.
My CIM Stock dividend would be 10% of 40 billion shares available.

My portion (percentage) of the 40 Billion Shares would be: 4 Billion Shares.
(40,000,000,000) x (0.10) = 4,000,000,000

///////////////

There are three reasons why UC is calculating the CIM dividend ratio based on “all CMKM shareholders” on the market:
-- 1. UC wants everyone to receive the same percentage of CIM ownership, as each individual currently owns in CMKX *** (same percentage based on all shares of CMKX on the market).
-- 2. CIM is a private company *** (is not currently traded on the market).
-- 3. Will eliminate any NSS Stock Dividends paid on CIM *** (or eliminate any NSD, Naked Short Dividend paid).

Remember, UC is trying to avoid a NSS problem with CIM.

Issuing CIM Stock Dividends to CMKX NSS Shareholders would create a NSS problem with CIM.
(Or a NSD problem – Naked Short Dividends)

///////////////

The good part about the CIM Stock Dividend is that we know the “Total Shares Owned by All Shareholders.”
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dividend.asp?sym_id=CMKX&dDate=08/31/2004&sDateType=Record_date

///////////////

What is the Total Share owned by “All CMKM Shareholders?”
(40,000,000,000) / (0.0256) = 1,562,500,000,000

The Total Share owned by “All CMKM Shareholders is: 1,562,500,000,000

///////////////

How many shares of CIM will we receive?
(1) / (0.0256) = 39

We will receive one (1) share of UCAD for every 39 shares of CMKX

///////////////

Based on the information from the UCAD dividend above:
Based on the information from the CIM dividend above:
We know the Illegal NSS shares of CMKX.

(1,562,500,000,000) – (779,625,779,626) = 782,874,220,374

The amount of CMKX illegal NSS shares on the market: 782.8 Billion Shares.

///////////////

On October 1st: We will know the true amount of Shares owned by “All CMKM Shareholders.”

What do we know about the GEMM Stock Dividend?


The good part about the GEMM Stock Dividend is that we will reconfirm the “Issued and O/S Shares of CMKX.”

September 24th: GEMM dividend ratio will be filed with NASDAQ
October 1st: GEMM Stock Dividends will be paid.

What do we know about KPG, UCA and Shane Resources?


We know that a JV Partnership already exists with CMKX at the new drill site.

Did you know that the Board of Directors on these three companies are related?

Are all these three companies a separate business entity?
Or are these companies going to become one (1) company in the future?

///////////////

United Carina Resources (UCA)

Number of Directors – Three (3) http://www.sedar.com/csfsprod/data46/filings/00648013/00000001/C%3A%5CFILINGS%5CUCANTC-03.pdf

Names of Directors:
Richard Walker
Richard T. Kusmirski
Mike Magrum http://www.sedar.com/csfsprod/data46/filings/00647857/00000001/C%3A%5CFILINGS%5CUCAbdec03.pdf

///////////////

Comsolidate Pine Channel Gold (KPG)

Number of Directors – Three (3) http://www.sedar.com/csfsprod/data44/filings/00623443/00000001/C%3A%5CFILINGS%5CPCNTC-03.pdf

Names of Directors:
Richard Walker
Richard T. Kusmirski
Mike Magrum http://www.sedar.com/csfsprod/data44/filings/00623439/00000002/C%3A%5CFILINGS%5CpcBoct03.pdf

///////////////

Shane Resources

Number of Directors – Four (4) http://www.sedar.com/csfsprod/data46/filings/00647714/00000001/C%3A%5CFILINGS%5CSNTC-03.pdf

Names of Directors:
Richard Walker
Mike Magrum
Stephen Marks
Wayne Sanderson http://www.sedar.com/csfsprod/data46/filings/00647821/00000001/C%3A%5CFILINGS%5Cshbdec03.pdf

///////////////

What about the Canadian JV Partners (KPG, UCA and Shane Resources)?
These companies are traded on the Canadian Stock Exchange.

If these companies want to be traded on the US Market, the companies would have to purchase and/or set up a US Publicly Traded Company.

UC will not issue Stock Dividends in a Canadian Market Company.
UC will issue Stock Dividends in a US Market Company.

What do we know about the SGGM?


Nothing!

What about the 200 Billion Shares?
We will receive those shares as a stock dividend.

This shell company is the type of scenario that our Canadian JV Partners could execute if they wanted to become a publicly traded company in the US Markets.

What do we know about the Nevada Minerals?


We know that Nevada Minerals is a Private Company.

We know that on June 24th, there was a meeting with Nevada Minerals to discuss the Goldak Airborne Magnetic Survey Results.
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040624/245665_1.html

///////////////

We know that on July 26th, whatever was discovered by the aerial survey was important enough for CMKX to purchase the mineral rights from Nevada Minerals.
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040726/266016_1.html


Will CMKX ever have an R/S?


No!

Why?
Because of the Nevada Minerals Transaction!
Because UC has just donated his personal CMKX shares to charity!

///////////////

Nevada Minerals just sold CMKX the Mineral Rights to 500 Thousand Acres.
In exchange, Nevada Minerals received 75 Billion Shares of CMKX.

Although the purchasing contract is not available for review, the purchasing contract between CMKX and Nevada Minerals would have a clause and/or stipulation stating that CMKX would not do an R/S (or “no” dilution clause).

Why?
Because if CMKX did a R/S, Nevada Minerals 75 Billion Shares would be reduced.
Because if CMKX did a R/S, Nevada Minerals would loose equity in CMKX.

Nevada Minerals would not “give away” their assets without protection.
Thus, if CMKX did an R/S, the 500 Thousand Acres would go back to Nevada Minerals.

///////////////

UC just gave away Billions of his personal CMKX Shares to charity and the needy.

If UC did an R/S, after donating the shares, the donated shares would have little value.

This would really make UC look like an idiot!

So there will be no R/S on CMKX.

What is happening to the Mineral Rights of CMKX?


The Mineral Rights of CMKX are slowly being transferred to other companies.

So far 30% of the Mineral Rights have been allocated.
We still need to allocate the other 70%.

What will be the percentage breakdown?
15 % = UCAD
10 % = CIM
05 % = SGGM
?? % = KPG, UCA and Shane Resources
?? % = Any other companies (we can only guess at this time)

///////////////

Eventually 100% of the CMKX Mineral Rights will be transferred to other companies.

In exchange, CMKX will receive shares of stock from the purchasing company.

In return, CMKX will issue to all shareholders a Stock Dividend in those companies.

Everyone who owns shares in CMKX will have the same percentage ownership of the other companies.

///////////////

What will happen to CMKX?

CIM will purchase the remaining assets of CMKX.

CIM will offer a liquidating cash dividend to all CMKX Shareholders.

CMKX will be liquidated.
CMKX will no longer exist!

No more NSS problem with CMKX.

What will happen to all the companies who own the Mineral Rights?


So far we have in ownership:
15 % = UCAD
10 % = CIM
05 % = SGGM
?? % = KPG, UCA and Shane Resources
?? % = Any other companies (we can only guess at this time)

///////////////

At some time in the future, look for a major merge of all the companies listed above.

///////////////

Since we were all issued specified percentage of stock dividends in the above companies, we will end up with a specified percentage of the merging company.

What has UC accomplished?


UC has straightened out the NSS problem of CMKX.

UC has successfully transferred the CMKX Mineral Rights into companies that the MM’s will not be able to manipulate.

Any MM manipulation or attempted NSS manipulation on the new companies will be monitored and addressed by each company immediately and respectfully.

The final Merging Company will be upgraded to a higher market board (AMEX sounds nice).


Why did I write this?


Because I am entitled to my own opinion!

You can agree and/or disagree with what I wrote above.

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=4005346



 


Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
WOW!
 
Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
'If' this all above becomes true in the future, UC is better start planning his disguise costume because someone will hunt him down.

Anyway I burst laughing this morning because of this so here it is:

How To Treat a Cough
--------------------
The owner of a drug store walks in to find a guy leaning heavily against a wall. The owner asks the clerk, "What's with that guy over there by the wall?"

The clerk says, "Well, he came in here this morning to get something for his cough. I couldn't find the cough syrup, so I gave him an entire bottle of laxative."

The owner says, "You idiot! You can't treat a cough with laxatives!"

The clerk says, "Oh yeah? Look at him, he's afraid to cough!"

 


Posted by gmac78 on :
 
NOAH,
I think PEDRO's post is probably pretty close to what is happening, and what will take place shortly! More truth than fiction in his post (IMO). CMKX is not going to be able to "move" (pps) as it stands, so it becomes an empty shell in the end. I have thought this for months, and everything I am seeing seems to be confirming it!! It is going to take faith and trust on our part to "stay" the course for a little longer. The MM's have made a lot of money, but they also know it's about over and they will no longer have any control over coming events. That kind of makes me smile when I think about it. It'll be fun to watch!!!! Just my opinion of course!!!

------------------
gmac
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by case:
blueeyedtraderboy:
So, do you think the share price
will go up from the .0004 ?
Like hiting .01 would be GREAT!!!
You're a big help! Thank You again!!


I think it can easily support .01 provided we have minerals and diamonds, which I think we do have, and lots of it at that...

Give it some more time, add like 200k more shares if possible, than we will see .01 on some real news! If we get to a higher exchange we will see that, in my opinion. Like moving off .pk to OTC/BB, then eventually onto AMEX...

With each jump onto a higher exchange, more buying power comes into play...

Hope this helps Case, I want to see .15 one day not .01

-John-

 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
Thanks Wallace, with us agreeing twice tonight, we're almost buddies.


You should really keep this down to a minimum
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
highwaychild,

There is NO WAY they - CMKX - could qualify for an AMEX listing. They will be lucky to get out of the pinks to OTC-BB. EARNINGS! EARNINGS!

They are more likely to go bankrupt than to show any earnings whatsoever.


Don't you have a date with death, Wallay-ballz?

You know you can save money on your casket at COSTCO Wallace, you should go check it out...

-John-
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
Wizardess

How are you Today? I am good... Boring but happy Friday! lol...

You missed the hoop-la last night at the Qbid thread with Mr. Bung hahaha... I was dying,lolol, him and his Gonads...

Supposedly this weekend I should be recovering those old Savings bonds so hopefully I can pick up my remaining 350-450k shares of CMKX... Then I will be a happy CMKX Camper!

I hope all is well by you... I know you have been in lurkmode but I wanted to send you a 'hello'!!!

Muwahhhh () The little '()' is a hug I learned from someone at the Qbid thread...

So there ya go () lol... adios amigo!

-Byrd/John- (The orginal JBCak47)
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
Thanks kiddo! Sendin my ()s to you too (cool symbol thanks for sharing). Now everytime I put something into bracket feels like I am () it.
Yeah its all good here, been lurking every day....busy with work and saying good buy to summer - just went by so fast. Ready to pick up my tomatoes - stupid me I plant them in front of the house so once in the while I get comments Are these tomatoes? or see people pointing at them Just being different.
Hope all is well with you too.

------------------
'Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much.' - Helen Keller
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
No problem hun!

Yes, another Summer gone

However I had ALOT of fun, some sadness, but what an adventure with CMKX...lol...

Tomatoes? Nice, the big ones or little cherrie tomoatoes? Yellow, orange or red? There are even white ones I beleive.... not completely positive...Albino tomoatoes!

You should try growing Potatoes, I grew Blue potaotes one year, it was fun, digging them out of the ground in October/November...lol...

If I could only find a place to grow my 'byrd' lol Whoa!!!!lolol heheheh...

() to you!

-John-


 


Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
John LMAO.

Here's a special "hug" for someone:

~)-) (guess which one's Wallace!)

or

(=)
 


Posted by rde3 on :
 
If the statement above turns out to be true,
I will be up over $500,000 . I'd be satisfied with that......
 
Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
NEWS!!!

blueeyedtraderboy is pleased to announce that tests have confirmed that his garden is potato-ferrous.

TW, are they macro tomatoes or micro tomatoes?
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
NEWS!!!

blueeyedtraderboy is pleased to announce that tests have confirmed that his garden is potato-ferrous.

TW, are they macro tomatoes or micro tomatoes?


Also next season I hope the garden will be green and byrd-ferious

I also suggest growing Corn...

You aren't a MAN until you have planted, cared for, grew and picked your Corn crops...

I am being serious too... There is nothing like the feeling of knowing that your Corn plant relies on you And then you get some corn on the cob afterwords... It is a win win situation with Corn!

FYI!

-Byrd-


 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by blueeyedtraderboy:
No problem hun!

Yes, another Summer gone

However I had ALOT of fun, some sadness, but what an adventure with CMKX...lol...

Tomatoes? Nice, the big ones or little cherrie tomoatoes? Yellow, orange or red? There are even white ones I beleive.... not completely positive...Albino tomoatoes!

You should try growing Potatoes, I grew Blue potaotes one year, it was fun, digging them out of the ground in October/November...lol...

If I could only find a place to grow my 'byrd' lol Whoa!!!!lolol heheheh...

() to you!

-John-


The are red plum tomatoes (my favorite), and next year I am going to grow cherry tomatoes, apparently they do well in pots.
I would love to see Albino tomatoes, I saw once an Albino bird (the real bird the one you see in the city with hanging around with doves). And my mother grows potatoes, and I remember the old days (may be 25 years ago when I was 7 and up) when my grandparents grew fields of them, fun to pick and throw on each other.

Yea CMKX kept me on my toes too....few sad things this summer too but I always stay on the positive side. Hope all is good with you now.

PS blue potatoes - where they really blue.

()
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
Money Penny, long time no speak My friend!

I'd give you a hug too, but well,lol, you know how it goes, hahahahah! lololol!

Wallace gets this :



_
LL (.) <--- Wallace's Butt, is if
He is mooning you!

The 'LL' are my feet... Wallz's butt is about to get kicked! hahahaha

-John-

[This message has been edited by blueeyedtraderboy (edited September 10, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by blueeyedtraderboy (edited September 10, 2004).]
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
They were bluish-purple... But blusih over all...

Plum tomaotoes, so I take it they are pretty big...

My dream is to have a small 8 acre farm in Maine or Vermont... Just grow two or three acres of corn, an acre of tomoatoes, 1 of pumpkins and watermelon, an acre of all berries, ect... Maybe one day!

lol...

Peppermint plants are nice, if you are into herbs (lol I know I am ) Also, I wouldn't mind growing my own Tabbacoo (spelling) plant just for the sake of saying I grew one...lol... I don't even smoke cigs (Yuck!)...

So many things to grow..lol...

You can also grow your own Mushrooms (Not a big fan of these guys,lol)...
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
No they are not that big (2 inches long) - they are just elongated, not very acidic.

Cool dreams - but make sure you have someone to do all the work, its not that easy

Funny you say - but I have pepper mint growing in front of the house too lol - spreading like a weed but nice weed. Just let you on little secret, what ever I want to experiment with I seed it in front of the house.....lol

Talk to you later kiddo just remember got to go eat 'the lunch' wow 12:30 already and feels like I just woke up....( )

The moon was funny, very funny!
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
I have to shower and get my sandwhich from the Deli down the road! adios TW.dress
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Volume low again -

1:59 PM

904,340,288
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Like I really needed to tell anyone what is happening with the PPS or volume
 
Posted by tic_toc on :
 
Hey glad you did, cos I havnt even checked today. Interesting.
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Tic_Toc

3:00PM - 1,042,143,296

1 hour trading volume = 137,803,008

 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Whoa! That's a LOT of 9M @ .0003's that just went through from 15:19:46 to 15:19:47 !
 
Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
Those mysterious nine million blocks that appear from time to time....
lol...

-John-
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Just Info

Item 5. Other information

General. The Company's financial resources have been substantially exhausted and management does not know of any significant additional financing available to the Company. The Company has no continuing on-going business operations at this time. The Company has been seeking, since early 1995, to satisfy its trade debt other than through a court supervised process, which would entail significant administrative expenses. The Company has been able to satisfy a substantial portion of its trade debt, but in light of its financial position, it is unlikely any payments will be made on its other indebtedness, which has been voluntary subordinated to the Company's trade creditors.

SEC Reporting Obligations. Because of the Company's financial condition and its consequent difficulty paying the attendant legal and accounting expenses, its ability to continue to meet its reporting obligations under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 remains questionable. The financial statements included with its Form 10-KSB for the year ended January 31, 2002, were not audited by an independent certified accountant, because the Company could not afford the cost of an audit.

Inability to Pay Indebtedness. Management does not presently anticipate that any of its outstanding obligations under its Operations Advances, Gold Delivery Contracts and term debt, a substantial portion of which outstanding obligations are held
by members of the Company's board of directors, can be satisfied. Accordingly, management does not believe, as a practical matter, that there is any remaining value to be ascribed to the Company's outstanding preferred stock or common stock.

Status of Properties. The status of the Company's mineral properties has not changed from the description contained in Item 2 of the Company's Form 10-KSB for the fiscal year ended January 31, 2002.

Source

SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, D.C. 20549

FORM 1O-QSB

Quarterly Report Under Section 13 or 15(d)
of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934


For the Quarter Ended October 31, 2002

Commission File Number: 0-18616

ST. GEORGE METALS, INC.
(Exact name of registrant as specified In its charter)

Nevada 88-0227915
(State or other jurisdiction of (I.R.S. Employer
Incorporation or organization) Identification Number)

1800 N. Beauregard Street, Suite 150, Alexandria, Virginia 22311
(Address of principal executive offices) (Zip code)

Registrant's telephone number, including area code: (703) 578-1802

 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Apologies - Above is from SGGM
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
I imagine this may have been posted previously.

Sorry if it has......

SGGM -- St. George Metals, Inc.
Com (1 Cent)

Address:
Box 446
Vigreville
AB T9C 1R4
Canada
Phone: 877-632-3133


Officers:
Mark Giebelhaus, Pres.

Shares Outstanding: 16,951,526 as of 2004-09-06

Estimated Market Cap: 5.933M as of 2004-09-08

Current Capital Change:
Stk. Div.=3%
Ex-Date: 2003-04-30
Record Date: 2003-04-29
Pay Date: 2003-05-02

Dividends: None


State of Incorporation: NV

Company Notes:
Note=11-02 company has no continuing on-going business operations


Transfer Agents:
PacWest Transfer, Warrenton, VA 20186



 


Posted by rde3 on :
 
It shows over 500,000,000 that's Millions
sold at 14:19
 
Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
I just called my broker (lowtrades) and asked about the UCAD dividend since people on other boards are reporting they’re getting statements showing the UCAD dividend had posted in their accounts. To my surprise, there are UCAD shares set up in a separate account for me (I think he said it was a margin account). He told me the amount of shares and doing a quick calculation the distribution rate was 0.0000155. I asked if the shares were showing restricted and he said yes. He did not know how long the shares would be restricted. I then asked about any applicable fees once they became unrestricted and I wanted to sell them and he said it depends whether or not they need to go through the TA for that transaction. If they do (which is not the norm) there would be a fee from the TA. Otherwise, there would not be any fees.

At least some positive news albeit the distribution rate would suggest a 483b o/s which compared to 800b or 1.5t does not sound too bad!!!

BTW, these shares will not show up in your online accounts, probably because they are restricted.
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Money_Penny -

Thanks for the update

Also for everyone -

Found this surfing, thought I would post. I am sure that most of us, would suspect something, but please pass it onto others.
http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/wrongnumberscam.htm
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
We see green next week.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
quote:
We see green next week.

Taking bets on that tic?

 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Yet more info from call to SGGM
« Thread started on: Today at 1:37pm »

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Post from dustybutler1 at Mach's board. Link below. Sugarpaw


She indicated SGGM and CMKX were two separate companies, she is Urban's niece (and not Ron's daughter) but works solely for SGGM, and there will be PRs starting next week that will explain many, many things... including the $10M!
Just adding more bandwidth


She said she has been getting about 250 calls a day... not surprised by that, are we haha

Very professional IR person... just the way you want someone in that capacity to be. I wouldn't be surprised to see SGGM make a move next week... it is now at .305 on 800K volume... up 17% today.

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=4007391
 


Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tic_toc:
We see green next week.

Sure, and my hairline will un-recede itself. LOL.
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
lol,well everyone and his dog has had their outlandish theory. We have had pages and pages of it for months. Now its my turn. And it only took five words. If it proves to be bullcrap throw it on the pile with the rest. At least it was a short theory.
 
Posted by tic_toc on :
 
heres to a green hairline for you!!
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
Posted by: Pedro2004
In reply to: None Date:9/10/2004 9:36:18 AM
Post #of 94019

Pedro’s Theory

well i'd have to say that this theort sounds better then most and events of the last 2 months sure seem to head that way. but as with all theories a few ?'s remain as in how do you divide a dividend up to twice the number of shares as the a/s and not be able to go to the SEC or some da** goverment org and say folks look at this!!!! i mean if you have records saying 1.6 trillion shares are owned by somebody and you a/s was 500 billion 1 month ago do you even need a judge for the lawsuit??? you think bungs gonnads (see qbid) are in bad shape. even if UC screwed up and issued 300 billion shares over the a/s and had to correct the problem after the fact you got somebodys short hairs in a vise grip. does anyone think it would be ok to just let the mm's off the hook scott free. say " here we will just give everyone shares of all these other companies to make up for the mm's greed and just tell them shame, shame. if that happens i'm going back to my aged opium theory.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
I am still trying to figure out which of the partners to invest in.

Which company is going to be the winner?
 


Posted by trgfunds on :
 
Money, my broker is also lowtrades and since I just read your post after business hours I can't check to see if my account shows the same, but did they tell you when (as of what date) you got the UCAD shares? How do you access the acct? do they just give you a new number or what?

quote:
Originally posted by Money_Penny:
I just called my broker (lowtrades) and asked about the UCAD dividend since people on other boards are reporting they’re getting statements showing the UCAD dividend had posted in their accounts. To my surprise, there are UCAD shares set up in a separate account for me (I think he said it was a margin account). He told me the amount of shares and doing a quick calculation the distribution rate was 0.0000155. I asked if the shares were showing restricted and he said yes. He did not know how long the shares would be restricted. I then asked about any applicable fees once they became unrestricted and I wanted to sell them and he said it depends whether or not they need to go through the TA for that transaction. If they do (which is not the norm) there would be a fee from the TA. Otherwise, there would not be any fees.

At least some positive news albeit the distribution rate would suggest a 483b o/s which compared to 800b or 1.5t does not sound too bad!!!

BTW, these shares will not show up in your online accounts, probably because they are restricted.



 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
From noahltl's repost above:

She indicated SGGM and CMKX were two separate companies, she is Urban's niece (and not Ron's daughter) but works solely for SGGM, and there will be PRs starting next week that will explain many, many things... including the $10M!
Just adding more bandwidth
---------------------------------------------

Wonder why that person "Sugarpaw" did not ask the obvious. Such as, "I understand they are two separate companies, but who owns SGGM"? "Does the Casavant family have a controlling interest in any way or are members of that family on the Bd of Dirs?"

Sure, she works solely for SGGM, but who hired her? Who got her the job there as opposed to working at CMKX?

Is this SGGM deal just another case of the left hand passing $$$$s to the right hand as has been done in the past?

PS: No reflection on you, noahltl.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 10, 2004).]
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 

Wallace,

I dug up some real 'DD Work' for you...

Go check it out. I think you can use this type of information.

Toodles
http://www.dailyitem.com/archive/2004/0823/biz/stories/05biz.htm

-Byrd-


 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
from another board, these companies, including SGGM all have the same address. Notice the oil company.

quote:

Here are some of the companies he is involved with...

DAVID DESORMEAU ANDREA DESORMEAU ANDREA DESORMEAU BUSINESS WORKS INC.

DAVID DESORMEAU DAVID DESORMEAU DAVID DESORMEAU CASAVANT RACING CORPORATION

DAVID DESORMEAU DAVID DESORMEAU DAVID DESORMEAU SILVER FOX CAPITAL INC.

DAVID DESORMEAU DAVID DESORMEAU JON THIRIOT STONEHENGE INC

DAVID DESORMEAU JAMES KINNEY JAMES KINNEY CANADIAN DIAMOND FIELDS INTERNATIONAL, INC.

DAVID J. DESORMEAU ANDREA J. DESORMEAU NONE LISTED INTERNATIONAL SUCCESS BUILDERS INC

JOHN D. GUZMAN DAVID DESORMEAU DAVID DESORMEAU EYECANDY ENTERTAINMENT INC.

RON CASAVANT DAVID DESORMEAU DAVID DESORMEAU CASAVANT INTERNATIONAL MINING CORPORATION

STEVE RADFORD JOHN CRANDALL DAVID DESORMEAU AMDI INTERNATIONAL INC

STEVE RADFORD JOHN CRANDELL DAVID DESORMEAU AMDI PETROLEUM INC.

STEVE RADFORD JOHN CRANDELL DAVID DESORMEAU SL INTERNATIONAL INVESTMENTS INC.

URBAN CASAVANT DAVID DESORMEAU DAVID DESORMEAU CASAVANT GOLF COMPANY

For details, go to this site....



 
Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by trgfunds:
Money, my broker is also lowtrades and since I just read your post after business hours I can't check to see if my account shows the same, but did they tell you when (as of what date) you got the UCAD shares? How do you access the acct? do they just give you a new number or what?


Sorry trgfunds, I don't know the answer to any of those questions. I will wait until I get my paper statements. However, I understand from other people who have got UCAD shares in their accounts that you cannot access them online since they are restricted.
 


Posted by Steve020866 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Money_Penny:
I just called my broker (lowtrades) and asked about the UCAD dividend since people on other boards are reporting they’re getting statements showing the UCAD dividend had posted in their accounts. To my surprise, there are UCAD shares set up in a separate account for me (I think he said it was a margin account). He told me the amount of shares and doing a quick calculation the distribution rate was 0.0000155. I asked if the shares were showing restricted and he said yes. He did not know how long the shares would be restricted. I then asked about any applicable fees once they became unrestricted and I wanted to sell them and he said it depends whether or not they need to go through the TA for that transaction. If they do (which is not the norm) there would be a fee from the TA. Otherwise, there would not be any fees.

At least some positive news albeit the distribution rate would suggest a 483b o/s which compared to 800b or 1.5t does not sound too bad!!!

BTW, these shares will not show up in your online accounts, probably because they are restricted.


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I have my statement in front of me from Lowtrades and it shows that I have 23 shares of UCAD. It also shows the payout of .0000155 per share of CMKX. I have 1.5 million shares of CMKX and that equals 23.65 shares of UCAD. Darn I lost 2 thirds a share, thats gonna hurt!!!! It also shows that it was moved to a type 4, LOC 1R account which is not a margin account because I have a margin account with Lowtrades and it doesn't show online. It must be a restricted type of account.

However, like MoneyPenny said this is a positive note that the outstanding should be 483 Billion. We will see when we get the rest of the spinoff shares.

Steve

 


Posted by Steve020866 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by trgfunds:
Money, my broker is also lowtrades and since I just read your post after business hours I can't check to see if my account shows the same, but did they tell you when (as of what date) you got the UCAD shares? How do you access the acct? do they just give you a new number or what?


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Sorry, just got to this post.

It shows in my statement that the date received was 8/23/04. Not bad, only 3 days after effective date.

Can't answer about the available date for selling.

Steve


 


Posted by trgfunds on :
 
Ok I just pulled out my statement and it turns out I DID get my UCAD YAY! -- Since it came so quickly I wonder since Aug 31st was another record date for CIM shouldn't we have that one too? I didn't expect them this fast but I'm not complaining!
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
I still say that the whole gang are all involved in the same companies and $$ goes from the Left Hand to the Right Hand and back to the Left Hand. But I could care less as long as some of the money makes it to my hands.
IMO: UCAD ownership is as follows:

U = Urban Casavant
C = Carolyn Casavant
A = Andrea Desormeau
D = David Desormeau

The true owners and controllers of UCAD ???
Anyone care to speculate on this theory???
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"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"

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Posted by trgfunds on :
 
Since we've heard that urban's neice is in charge of SGGM and when asked about it they were kinda hush hush, could it be that there is a possible merger with us and SGGM and the final resulting company is going to be the CIM shares that we will get 1 for 1? Then the share price would be an average of ours and theirs or something. I mean "Casavant International Mining" just sounds so mergerific. Any thoughts?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
OK now that the shares are showing...
you need to hear from who IS NOT getting shares...
those are the NSS........

anybody????????????????????????
 


Posted by lbulbu on :
 
[QUOTE] I have an ameritrade account and my monthly statement as of August 27 does not show me receiving any dividens yet. Do I need to contact ameritrade or just wait till I receive my Sept. statement any help would be appreciated.
 
Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Nothing new in my Ameritrade account yet. Does anyone with Ameritrade have theirs yet?

I just emailed them. Will post their reply.

[This message has been edited by WinsumLosesum (edited September 11, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
I have freetrade, owned by ameritrade, didn't show up in my account, yet.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Sugarpaw
Re: WE GOT OUR UCAD DIVIDEND IN OUR ACCOUNT!!!
« Reply #17 on: Sep 10th, 2004, 2:20pm »

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This was posted earlier by DiamondWon see below for full copy.

{I explained what I was reading on these ********s about people claiming to have received their UCAD dividends as unrestricted shares. He said this was possible, as a broker can advance these shares to a client if they so choose, in expectation of the shares being duely issued by CMKX through 1st Global.}


Well I said I would call 1st Global and Pacific. Just got off the phone with Jeff at 1st Global. I had two issues that needed to be addressed. First, Canada Etrade will not accept Certs on OTCBB and Pink stocks. The certs have to be returned to 1st Global with instructions as to which broker you want them electronically converted to. The Big Hassel is that they need to be "Medallioned!" In the states any bank can do this, not so in Canada! He suggested I open a US Etrade account which requires me to open a US Bank account. So this weekend I am off to Blaine, Wash.

My second question was pertaining to the UCAD and CIM dividends. I explained what I was reading on these ********s about people claiming to have received their UCAD dividends as unrestricted shares. He said this was possible, as a broker can advance these shares to a client if they so choose, in expectation of the shares being duely issued by CMKX through 1st Global.

ALL dividends HAVE to go through 1st Global, and to date they have not received any shares from UCAD or CIM. When I asked how they could be coming up with these ratios that we are seeing, he said this info is coming from the OTCBB or DTC. He said that the actual ratios will in all likelihood be different. He said everytime someone comes up with a new ratio, his phone rings off the hook!

Jeff said, don't believe what you read or hear about from these Chat Rooms. No one at this point knows what the actual ratio will be, other than the company and 1st Global!

So, as soon as I think this should be a Black & White clear cut issue, we muddy the water with some brokers advancing shares. What happens when the ratio is declared and it turns out to be different, unclear how those brokerages will deal with the discrepancy.

Confusion, confusion....
DiamondWon


 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
OK now that the shares are showing...
you need to hear from who IS NOT getting shares...
those are the NSS........

anybody????????????????????????


I haven't gotten any yet...
 


Posted by Leeman1 on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
[B]Nothing new in my Ameritrade account yet. Does anyone with Ameritrade have theirs yet?


I have 2 Ameritrade acounts. None showing up yet in either one.

 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i find it had to believe anyone would have these shares and at the first rate. a broker might add them but since nobody knows the split yet other then the otc post which is probably very close any shares in an account will have to be adjusted thus more accounting paperwork, not something a broker would do on purpose.
 
Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
Ameritrade told me they were aware of all dividends coming thru, but were holding pending exact distrubtions. I can't speak for some of the other brokers ( some may have jumped the gun) but Ameritrade has always been accurate with what they told me. I think this is the same thing Bill said
VAN
PS: NO WALLACE it doesn't mean it's NSS because we haven't got it; more tripe dispersion. Hope no one is taking your advice

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Posted by dwman on :
 
I have a Fidelity account and it does not credit my account with any of the divident shares. However, last time I talked to them, they assured me that if shares are in my account, they are good.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
VAN,

VAN wrote:

PS: NO WALLACE it doesn't mean it's NSS because we haven't got it; more tripe dispersion. Hope no one is taking your advice
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Just keep slapping yourself and listen up!!!
That bit about the NSS was posted by Glassman. More "tripe dispersion", huh?

So much for YOUR valuable advice!

If there has been any CMKX naked short selling in huge amounts, Glassman just happens to be right.


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Does anyone here have any disputes with the math someone posted on another site as to the o/s?


There are 483,870,967,741 shares out there.
We now know that the PPS on the UCAD div is $4.75/ a share. So with that info, we can now figure out how many shares of CMKX there are.
The dividend was paying .0000155 share of UCAD for every share of CMKX. Multiply $4.75 by .0000155 and you will get a number of .000073625. That is $.000073625 amount of UCAD you will recieve for every share of CMKX that you have. Now take $.000073625 and mulitply it by the dividend amount of 7,500,000 shares of UCAD and you get a number of $35,625,000. This means that there is $35,625,000 out there of a pie that every CMKX shareholder will get a peice of at $.000073625 per one share held. So, multiply $35,625,000 by $.00007325.You get a number of 483,870,967,741.

Is that how one gets the o/s?
 


Posted by will on :
 
So, Melvin didn't lie, there isn't 400B, there's more than that.
 
Posted by Steve020866 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
Does anyone here have any disputes with the math someone posted on another site as to the o/s?


There are 483,870,967,741 shares out there.
We now know that the PPS on the UCAD div is $4.75/ a share. So with that info, we can now figure out how many shares of CMKX there are.
The dividend was paying .0000155 share of UCAD for every share of CMKX. Multiply $4.75 by .0000155 and you will get a number of .000073625. That is $.000073625 amount of UCAD you will recieve for every share of CMKX that you have. Now take $.000073625 and mulitply it by the dividend amount of 7,500,000 shares of UCAD and you get a number of $35,625,000. This means that there is $35,625,000 out there of a pie that every CMKX shareholder will get a peice of at $.000073625 per one share held. So, multiply $35,625,000 by $.00007325.You get a number of 483,870,967,741.

Is that how one gets the o/s?


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Well, thats a hard way of doing it. The easiest way is to take the 7.5 million and divide it by the split ratio.

7500000 / .0000155 = 483870967741.935

This will give you CMKX's outstanding share count. You can't get any better numbers than that for accuracy. I don't know where all the other figures are coming from. The count of over 1 trillion outstanding shares was a bit far fetched. Someone got their numbers crossed somewhere. JMHO

Steve


 


Posted by will on :
 
Looks accrurate to me. Early on I was usung 400B as outstanding and got .00001818, I think.

quote:
Originally posted by Steve020866:


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Also someone posted from another site had an answer to the NSS issue.
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If you DON'T sell, your shares are real by default. The MMs have to cover all the shorts (eventually). When they do, the price goes up and some will sell. If you DON'T sell, you will be holding shares that will BECOME real. The shares sold back to the MMs, even if they are "real" automatically become candidates to cover for the shorted shares. The shares sold back are destroyed, along with the same number of shares recorded as shorted.

In essence, the folks who sell back shares to the MMs are providing the MMs with the "borrowed" shares that the MMs were supposed to have had access to before they shorted. So whoever sells, is HELPING the MMs with their scheme.

And had an excellent answer to the NSS issue. If you DON'T sell, your shares are real by default. The MMs have to cover all the shorts (eventually). When they do, the price goes up and some will sell. If you DON'T sell, you will be holding shares that will BECOME real. The shares sold back to the MMs, even if they are "real" automatically become candidates to cover for the shorted shares. The shares sold back are destroyed, along with the same number of shares recorded as shorted.

In essence, the folks who sell back shares to the MMs are providing the MMs with the "borrowed" shares that the MMs were supposed to have had access to before they shorted. So whoever sells, is HELPING the MMs with their scheme.
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Also from another site http://www.rgm.com/shortselling.html



 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
Thanks Highway Child

I read that post on the other cmkx board...

It does make sense. However if the price is right the MM's can have all my shares

-John-
 


Posted by will on :
 
Isn't that what everyone been waiting for? The big squeeze? The squeeze of the century?
Did y'all forget that?

 
Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
Van wrote:

"NO WALLACE it doesn't mean it's NSS because we haven't got it; more tripe dispersion. Hope no one is taking your advice"

Why would any of us take La Fem's advice!?!?! I'd sooner gargle with Bleech...

-John-
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Anyone know what "Bleech" is? Must be a new kind of mouthwash! LOL
 
Posted by will on :
 
It's a brand name lol. Like Kleenex

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Anyone know what "Bleech" is? Must be a new kind of mouthwash! LOL


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Some might see the merit of the following:

UPDATE: CMKM DIAMONDS, INC. (Pink Sheets: CMKX) - SWAPPING STUFF
September 7, 2004
Imagine it was spring again, and time to clean out all of the useless items you had accumulated over the past years - all of those beanie babies, trolls, and pet rocks that you have been collecting. But instead of tossing them in the trash, you swap them with your neighbor, who has an equally dubious set of stuff cluttering his closet.


Now imagine that you and your neighbor agree that you are not trading junk at all, but valuable items of infinite worth. Does that make the items valuable?


CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX) has been on a trading spree. The Company, which has yet to uncover marketable diamonds or other revenue generating gems and ores, has been busy trading interests in its claims with other financially challenged mining companies. UPDATE: CMKM DIAMONDS, INC. - CONCENTRIC CIRCLES. In its search for a silk purse - or is that a diamond studded handbag - on September 2, 2004, CMKM announced a joint venture agreement with another struggling Pink Sheet company, St. George Metals, Inc (Pink Sheets: SGGM).


According to the September 2nd press release, St. George Metals has agreed to purchase a 5% interest in all of CMKM's mineral claims. In return, CMKM says it expects to receive $10,000,000 Dollars and two hundred billion (200,000,000,000) restricted shares of St. George stock. CMKM claims that it already has received the first $2,500,000 payment and anticipates three additional $2,500,000 payments by October 2nd.


The terms of this transaction place a rather curious valuation upon the assets of both companies. Investors can only guess at the value of St. George - or the state of its operations. The Company ceased filing public reports with the SEC in November 2002. When it last filed, St. George declined to provide detailed financial information, instead conceding that its "financial resources" had been "substantially exhausted" and that it had no ongoing business operations.


We have discovered no public information that would suggest St. George's fortunes have improved these past two years. The Company has not issued any recent press releases indicating new funding or renewed operations. Consequently, there is no way to determine how the financially exhausted company may have accumulated $10 million - or why it would devote such valuable resources to acquiring an interest in CMKM.


Despite this lack of information, investors responded to the CMKM announcement, driving St. George stock from $.01 a share on September 2nd to $.07 a share on September 3rd - a 700% increase for a Company whose financial condition and business remain a complete mystery.


The transaction also created a valuation for CMKM that is hardly supported by the Company's track record. If St. George was prepared to pay $10 million in cash, and deliver stock valued at $2 billion on September 2nd (and $14 billion on September 3rd) for a measly 5% of CMKM's mining interests, did that mean CMKM's claims were worth roughly between $40 billion and $280 billion?


That hardly seems likely. Remember, CMKM has yet to dig up any marketable diamonds.


The St. George alliance followed several similar swaps between CMKM and obscure mining companies searching for the mother lode - albeit unsuccessfully, at least so far. In one of those transactions, CMKM announced that it would sell 5% of its mining claims to U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. (OTCBB: UCAD) in exchange for 7.5 million shares of U.S. Canadian stock. UPDATE: CMKM DIAMONDS, INC. - SHARING SHARES. That sounds like a bargain, considering the price paid by St. George for a similar interest. The price of U.S. Canadian shares at the time of that deal was approximately $4.80 a share - CMKM practically gave away the 5% interest for a mere $36 million worth of stock.


Then again, where are the diamonds?


And there was more. CMKM also gave U.S. Canadian a one year option to acquire an additional 10% of CMKM's mineral claims for $15 million in cash. On July 27, 2004, CMKM announced that it had received $3 million from U.S. Canadian, representing a partial exercise of the option.


On the surface it seemed unlikely that U.S. Canadian would be able to come up with the necessary funds. Unlike CMKM and St. George, U.S. Canadian does file periodic reports with the SEC - the price it must pay to preserve its listing on the OTC Bulletin Board. Those reports suggest that U.S. Canadian faces considerable financial challenges. As of March 31, 2004, U.S. Canadian had $408 in cash, no current revenues, and concerns about its ability to continue as a going concern.


Matters hardly improved in the third quarter of 2004. As of June 30, 2004, U.S. Canadian had $1,321 in cash, no revenues, and cumulative losses of $17.7 million. So where did U.S. Canadian get $3 million - and why would it invest those precious funds in CMKM?


The answer can be found in U.S. Canadian's Form 10-Q financial report for the quarter ended June 30, 2004. According to the Form 10-Q, U. S. Canadian agreed to sell 600,000 shares of its stock to an unnamed party related to CMKM at $5 a share. The $3,000,000 received by U.S. Canadian from that transaction was then paid to CMKM.


In other words, an individual related to CMKM funded U.S. Canadian's investment in CMKM - just one more swap in this series of intriguing transactions.


And what of the money paid to CMKM by St. George? Was it raised in a similar fashion, by funneling shares to a "party" associated with CMKM? Unfortunately, in the absence of public filings, investors will have a difficult time finding the answer to that question.


But regulators should be able to get those answers - if only they bother to ask.

©2004 Stock Patrol.com. All rights reserved.
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Pay particular attention to the last 7 paragraphs. Eye openers??? Just remember, Casavant's niece is with SGGM for some reason. Is it Casavant family controlled?


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Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Thanks, Will. I have never seen any product called "Bleech". Is it a new brand name? Is it new on the market? What is the company's ticker symbol? BLEE? Where do I buy it? LOL

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 11, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Yep, enjoyed it on Sept 8, but we can enjoy it again.

tradingpennys
Member posted September 08, 2004 18:12
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UPDATE: CMKM DIAMONDS, INC. (Pink Sheets: CMKX) - SWAPPING STUFF
September 7, 2004
Imagine it was spring again, and time to clean out all of the useless items you had accumulated over the past years - all of those beanie babies, trolls, and pet rocks that you have been collecting. But instead of tossing them in the trash, you swap them with your neighbor, who has an equally dubious set of stuff cluttering his closet ...............
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Oh, well. Must have been the day CMKX made a big announcement and I missed tradingpennys' post. LOL "Never mind".

Is "Bleech" a brand name for some new kind of mouthwash? LOL

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 12, 2004).]
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
With the exception of one poster, notice how reasonable posters have become since the pumper "Queen" has not been posting on this CMKX thread?
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
"expidiate" -- anyone know what that means?
It seems to be another word that does not appear in any dictionary.
 
Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
Again, that is the 'BEST' you can do or say Wallace.. Focus on the word I spelled wrong!

You can find what expidiate means here Wallace: http://www.depend.com/

This is the 'Best' you can do? I see your 'condition' is getting the best of you...

Lack of O2 to the brain can cause people to be a little 'off the mark'... Try harder La Fem

-John-


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
With the exception of one poster, notice how reasonable posters have become since the pumper "Queen" has not been posting on this CMKX thread?


The "pumper Queen", while on a trip, was recently chosen as Administrator of the Christian Traders CMKXwebsite. I'm sure her knowledge, professionalism, and administrative qualities were considered before chosing her for this position.

You, however Wallace are only considered for your childishness here on this thread, and it is not a positive consideration.

You hold yourself out as a "former" player on Wall Street yet continue to display the juvenile behavior you are displaying here.

There is no excuse for some of the posts that byrd places here in response to your bashing, but likewise there is no excuse for your taunting and bashing.


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:

The "pumper Queen", while on a trip, was recently chosen as Administrator of the Christian Traders CMKXwebsite. I'm sure her knowledge, professionalism, and administrative qualities were considered before chosing her for this position.

You, however Wallace are only considered for your childishness here on this thread, and it is not a positive consideration.

You hold yourself out as a "former" player on Wall Street yet continue to display the juvenile behavior you are displaying here.

There is no excuse for some of the posts that byrd places here in response to your bashing, but likewise there is no excuse for your taunting and bashing.


if that is a PAID postion, then wallace is right,

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Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
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Posted by will on :
 
I feel another name change coming. lol
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
One last thing for now. If any of you wish to discuss Christianity, music and non-music, addictions to gambling or anything else other than stock, bring it up on the NON STOCK TOPICS.

Bye

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Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
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Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
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Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
One last thing for now. If any of you wish to discuss Christianity, music and non-music or anything else other than stock, bring it up on the NON STOCK TOPICS.

Bye



I haven't seen anyone but you bring up those topics today.


 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
I haven't seen anyone but you bring up those topics today.


You noticed that as well, huh? lol...

Wally's days are numbered... on this board I mean... lol... or wait, also in life in general.

CMKX will prove itself! It;s already up 400% since it's 52 week lows! It was up 1200%, and still strong at 400%!

Don't fall for the Bashers lies!

-John-
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
if that is a PAID postion, then wally is right,

Glass, I can't say with any certainty that is or is not a paid position, but I would seriously doubt it. People on that site, just do things for other people without any earthly compensation.


 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
I see Wallace and BlueByrd are back from church.

Hey BlueByrd, you should know I love a good humorous post, and you have certainly contributed your fair share. But with this personal World War Wallace you're fighting, I'm afraid you may actually think that the rest of us who dislike Wallace's bitterness and negativity are on the sidelines, cheering you on.

But in reality, I'm thinking you crossed the line, and your posts are just vile and gross, which is actually a poor substitute for humor. Are you forgetting that ladies read this thread? And some of us guys are trying to be gentlemen?

I don't even think Wallace needs to bash you any more at this point. Your posts are already saying quite a lot about you.

One last thing. If, (and I DO mean IF) Wallace's situation is true, then it is a sad and pathetic reality that he has chosen to live out his last days in such a manner. But again, I'm uncomfortable with your callous posts that make light of his situation.

If I'm alone in my views, oh well, I spoke my peace. But I suspect others have felt the same way. I'd like you to consider cleaning up your own posts, instead of waiting for Bob to do it for us.

What do you say, Blue? I'd like to think you're a better person than what you have temporarily become. It happens to most of us some time or another.

Peace.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
I suppose you bringing up another forum site to attract posters and the following statements qualify? Do you have a special permit?
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Shall I tell what she said about you in a personal email some time back?
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Originally posted by noahltl:

The "pumper Queen", while on a trip, was recently chosen as Administrator of the Christian Traders CMKXwebsite. I'm sure her knowledge, professionalism, and administrative qualities were considered before chosing her for this position.
You, however Wallace are only considered for your childishness here on this thread, and it is not a positive consideration.

You hold yourself out as a "former" player on Wall Street yet continue to display the juvenile behavior you are displaying here.

There is no excuse for some of the posts that byrd places here in response to your bashing, but likewise there is no excuse for your taunting and bashing.


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Posted by BaxterBessieMama on :
 
Oh Winsum,

My husband & I already disuss how truly funny and smart you are! Now I'm adding kind, respectful and thoughtful to the list.

Kudos, props and a well done, Mate to you!

------------------
Peeper

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Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
winsum

I took your words into accoutn and re-edited any posts which I thought may have been the most 'offensive'... Again, I will listen to you guys, not Wally...

I wasen't trying to offend you, and you know what, you are right, there are women here. I will admitt I crossed the line.

However,

Wallace, Wally, whatever you call 'it' is STILL on here since when, JUNE?!?! posting as much negitives as possible...

If you really accept what he has told you at face value (I don't, I think he is BS-ing all of you, who admits that to people? Uhhhh yeah I am dying... anyway...) It all seems so sketchy...

He holds no position... bashers our stock for months, calls it a scam, yet he is STILL here... He was posting here at Mid-night last night, again at 11am, 1pm, 2pm, 3pm... do you see a pattern?

You can think of me as you wish, I may be crude and have pretty lewd humor, so be it, however I refuse to sit back and let Wallace post his dribble knocking this stock... No way...

Ask youself if you hang out for three month periods on stock threads which you don't own, trying to get everyone their to accept what you have to think on why this is a bad stock... SINCE J U N E!!!!

In the end I think Wallace has managed to BS some of you... At least I am honest, I am an a$$-hole, but only to Wallace...

Have I attacked anyone else? Will, nope. Winsum, never, infact I re-edited my posts just because you spoke up...

This thread went down hill the DAY Wallace started to post...

Since June he has went missing twice for a number of days, and EACH TIME, everyone here said how good it was...

And if I recall didn't Wallace say he was not going to POST here until after September?

(Rolling my eyes) I guess this thread is Wallace drug of choice...

-Byrd-
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
Winsum,

I apologize to you and the other posters...

I am never that 'callous' however, deep down, feel that he is lying 100%.

You guys 'know' me on here... I try to make you laugh, I am not out to hurt anyone!

I love ya all () and kisses ( the little () is a hug)

-John-
 


Posted by BaxterBessieMama on :
 
John,

Thank you for editing your posts. As an old lady here, I really appreciate your fresh, youthful enthusiasm. Your interaction with Bung over at Q was priceless!

I honestly don't know what the deal with Wallace is. Call me non-altruistic but my compassion for others would not include monitoring a penny stock board to "protect" them from others.

But have you ever just irrationally latched onto something that you couldn't let go? Maybe that's his deal with CMKX. Or maybe he's a paid basher. Who knows? Who cares?

Sweet John, invest your energy in your dreams. Plan our travel club trip to Antartica. Focus on the good.

Thank you for your time. I'm going back to lurk.

------------------
Peeper
 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Thanks, Blue. I appreciate your attitude. I wasn't quite sure how you'd respond, and I'd hate to get on your bad side!

BTW, I never disagreed with your observations about Wallace, just the level to which your posts were going.

But, uh, Blue, uh, well, uh, did you miss those posts at 11:57 and 11:59?
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
Peeper (always makes me sneeze)

"But have you ever just irrationally latched onto something that you couldn't let go?"

Yes, making fun of a certain 'poster',lol...

I am sorry you guys, being around cops and firemen for the last 6 years will cause you to have a dirty mouth,lol...


Plan the trip!!! You got it...

How about the Seven Continents Tour? lol... I guess CMKX would have to do REAL well,heheh!!!

Thanks for taking this 'bad' boy back! I love you all!

Again I apologize to any of the women who may have taken offense, Sorry.

-John-
 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BaxterBessieMama:
Oh Winsum,

My husband & I already disuss how truly funny and smart you are! Now I'm adding kind, respectful and thoughtful to the list.

Kudos, props and a well done, Mate to you!


BBMama-

Thanks. Right back atcha. But could you do me a favor and put that in an email to my wife?


 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
Winsum...

Trust me, I heed all of your advice Somebody has to be my voice of reason! lol...

World War Wallace!!! hahahah!!!

I got those 11:57 and 59 posts! They have been byrd-edited

Trust me, I would never EVER say what I have said to Wallace to any of the great posters here!!! Wallace is just a scab... Lol..

-John-


 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Sorry for the ON-TOPIC post, but I got a reply from Ameritrade today. (Sunday morning!)

Dear xxxxxx:

Thank you for contacting us today regarding the CMKX dividend.

I apologize, however at this time we have no additional information in regard to the status of the CMKX dividend.

We appreciate your patience in this matter.

If you have further concerns or inquiries, please reply to this message.

Sincerely,

Jennifer Gomez
Apex Reorganization and Safekeeping, Ameritrade
Division of Ameritrade, Inc.

Original Message Excluded:
-------------------------

(I had asked for an update on the divies, noting that some have reported already receiving their UCAD shares.)


 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
None for me Winsum and I use ChoiceTrade if that helps...

Wow an ontopic post by me,hehe...

I am out guys! Be safe!
 


Posted by BaxterBessieMama on :
 
Winsum, I'm betting she already knows!

JOHN. . . You're letting it go, right? The 7 continents thing would be awesome. And not as expensive as you might think. We were a very similar trip a few years ago for only $11,000 each. And have I told you I used to live in Long Beach (NY)? You remind me of everything I miss about NYC! Oh, and "bless you" for that sneeze!

------------------
Peeper
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
that's funny cuz he reminds me of every thing i don't miss about NYC...LOL
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
I suppose you bringing up another forum site to attract posters and the following statements qualify? Do you have a special permit?

Fire when ready Wallace

 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
YEAH NOAH
I down the trench from you several yards!
Incoming 50cal 1000yds to right
Morters 50yds short
VAN

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 12, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 

Posted by Wallace#1

Shall I tell what she said about you in a personal email some time back?

Fire when ready Wallace

 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
YEAH NOAH
I down the trench from you several yards!
Incoming 50cal 1000yds to right
Morters 50yds short
VAN

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 12, 2004).]



You can probably stand up Van. All of his rounds are "duds".

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 12, 2004).]
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
I think Blue is well-meaning.
Quite the opposite of what Wally Wall St.'s tring to do here.
He's a stright shooter too.And a stright shooter is good to have in the trenches.

Not to mention funny...Very funy.IMO
Oh yea,No divys for me yet but the A-trade rep. I talked to said I was flagged, and was to be recieved 9-24-04.

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited September 12, 2004).]
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 
"Shall I tell what she said about you in a personal email some time back?"

Ummmm like we would accept at face value anything you claim 'she' said to you...

I'd sooner host a tea party with the likes of Bin Laden, Hitler, Stalin and Ghangas Khan before I would listen to you...

============================================

Bax Awwww thanks hun () lol, Long Beach that's a STONES throw from me... Wel just go up the MeadowBrooke Pkway and exist east bound on Sunrise Highway,lol...

I use to walk EVERYDAY durring the summer on the Long Beach board walk... Day, night, morning, lol... So much fun And beautiful women galore!

You can keep Jones Beach! lol! Too many people...

============================================

Glassman,

And you remind me of everything and everyone I hate in life

Remember, Glass breaks

=============================================

Noah,


Don't even listen to WALLY , call him Wally, he hates it!

WALLY WALLY WALLY WALLY...


Wally, did you daddy call you Wally and give you some sort of complex that has manifested itself like a billion years after the fact?

-John-

Also as of this posting, no dividend shares are in my account,lol...
 


Posted by blueeyedtraderboy on :
 

You see, now WALLY-ballz is trying to pin each of us against one another...

Bahser technique #3...

"Do you want to see what she said about you in an email"


No we don't infact what we want is for you to take your scabie infested butt out of here ASAP...
===========================================

Awwww thanks Highway Child! lol...

Whoa! Becareful sticking up for me, WALLY might consider you to be backing up lucifer! lolol!!! hahahah...

=============================================

I AM IN THE TRENCHES WITH YOU... No wait I am not!

I have decided to strap a suitcase nuke to my back and run directly at Wally's turdhole, errrr foxhole...

I will gadly 'take one for the team'... !

CMKX WILL CRUSH WALLY...

Wally and 'loser' both have five letters !
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
i don't mind byrd until he starts wishing people physical harm...
unfortunately he makes a passtime of it....
bashing and pumping are part of "the game"
byrd is obviously "unwell"
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
SEC your post makes YOU sound pretty 'special' as well, I mean hypocritical.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
This thread is a mess. I hope you guys are enjoying yourselves. Here's an idea, talk about the stock or nothing at all. Kinda radical though, huh?
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Upman,nice concept.lol.
You have anything good?
If CMKX haters would just chill instead of just tring to fuel the fire maybe things could run more efficiently.

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited September 12, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Just the "basher death rattle". They know it's almost over.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
highway,
I'm pretty much done with this thread. It's to the point where any comment or opinion, positive or negative, is met with a personal attack. Just not worth the time anymore.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
highway,
I'm pretty much done with this thread. It's to the point where any comment or opinion, positive or negative, is met with a personal attack. Just not worth the time anymore.

I think that's what they wanted you to do Up, stick around it has to get better.

 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Negative is one thing Upman,just plain destructive is another.I know you know the difference.Don't go Upman, you've been here longer than I have.

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited September 12, 2004).]
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Just think what you leaving would do to C.C.MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.HA HA HA
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Other rats leaving the sinking ship. NITE execs recent insider trading:

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/invsub/insider/trans.asp?Symbol=NITE
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by highwaychild:

quote:
Just think what you leaving would do to C.C.MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.HA HA HA

Christ, I never thought about that. Last thing I'd want to do is pizz off the Moo!
 


Posted by will on :
 
I have to ask Upman, who do you feel is the number one perpetrator of these personal attacks?
Do you object to posting that show the negatives and risks in CMKX? I think not.
Let's call a Spade a Spade.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
highway,
I'm pretty much done with this thread. It's to the point where any comment or opinion, positive or negative, is met with a personal attack. Just not worth the time anymore.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Will:
quote:
I have to ask Upman, who do you feel is the number one perpetrator of these personal attacks?
Do you object to posting that show the negatives and risks in CMKX? I think not.
Let's call a Spade a Spade.

Wallace
 


Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
Well, I have left this board a couple of weeks ago becaue everyone was fighting and calling each other names. I like this format and enjoyed reading everyone's opinions and research. I've come back to find the same thing going on. It's hard for me to understand how ugly people can be to one another. Is it money? Is that the big EVIL. Winners and losers. We're all in it for the money. I've been trying to figure out why some posters come on here and are negative about everything. EVERYTHING. They criticize the dreamers, trash the therories and humiliate those of us that are here to enlighten our minds and research our stocks. Some people, like myself, love to read and formulate our opinons. Some people like to research and post what they have found for the benefit of all.

I've followed this stock since March, 2001, on and off, and have never seen such total disrespect for people. Something big MUST be coming. I feel it. I sense it. I know it. No bashing, trash talking or humiliation will change that. There is only one thing that will make or break this stock. Only one thing that can bring our pps up quickly. It's not a merger nor a dividend. It's not a big city lawyer or a good hearted CEO. It's DIAMONDS. Lots and lots of DIAMONDS.

I challege all of you to look for the diamonds. Concentrate your research to find out all you can about diamonds, where they are, how we find them and IF we've found them. Let's dig for the aerial survey reports. Throw all of this BS out and dig as deeply as you can. Scour the newspapers in Canada. Read the research on mining. Talk to people that know about this amazing stone. Let's find out if we've got diamonds. We are wasting our resources digging up info on shell companies and worrying about behind the scene things we can't control. Yes, we need that type of information, but there is something more important. We need the goods. We need the diamonds. When and if we do find them..the amount of diamonds/ton of kimberlite, the cost of extraction in Canada and the price of raw diamonds will dictate our PPS.

The dividends, the mergers, the parties are all worthless perks without them.

Let's focus.
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by highwaychild:

Christ, I never thought about that. Last thing I'd want to do is pizz off the Moo!


LMFinAO.Just don't try to tip 'em.HA HA HA
He says he doesn't like that.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
The word was "perpetrator", Upside. Obviously, you have not seen ANY of the remarks to which I have responded...including your own!

There have been many more to which I have not responded to...including your own.

Even now, I had been quiet for some time but you jackals want to keep it up! And, you are an instigator.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 12, 2004).]
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Right Wallace, perpetrator, as in originator. This thread was fine with an even exchange of positive and negative posts with rational discussion of both until you popped in here. You have a knack of irritating people, even ones who hold your same point of view about this stock. Your story a few weeks ago of buying at .0001 was the final b/s loaded straw that broke this particular camels back. You claim to have a history on Wall Street but offer nothing to back it up. You claim to be dying and if that's the case, I really do feel sorry for you but you lack the thinnest fragment of credibility. You left a few weeks ago only to resurface when you had your miracle buy at .0001. You have since said you have sold. Why then don't you leave again? Resurface when one of your Wall Street "friends" helps you get a buy 300% below market price again.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Now, getting back to CMKX, if any of you are into CMKX to any degree at all, you are well advised to get out even at .0004. Some are in so far that they think they cannot get out until the recoup at least some of their money. That is a BIG, BIG MISTAKE. Others are in to the tune of $10,000 or more. In some cases, over $20,000. What approach would you expect those people to take? Do you think they can really admit their huge mistake? The answer is NO!! Others bought in the second time when they should have known better. They were convinced by others. Get out while you can and admit a poor decision.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Up

Yep - and you irritate absolutely no one!

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 12, 2004).]
 


Posted by secman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:

Which one were you talking to Rchaud?


Awww James Brewer is soo cute.. quick CHANGE YOUR CREDIT CARDS HEHEHEHE

 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
I haven't posted for several weeks either.
GLTA CMKX shareholders.

Well at least the NFL started.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by WorkAHolic:
[B]Well, I have left this board a couple of weeks ago becaue everyone was fighting and calling each other names.

 


Posted by secman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Now, getting back to CMKX, if any of you are into CMKX to any degree at all, you are well advised to get out even at .0004. Some are in so far that they think they cannot get out until the recoup at least some of their money. That is a BIG, BIG MISTAKE. Others are in to the tune of $10,000 or more. In some cases, over $20,000. What approach would you expect those people to take? Do you think they can really admit their huge mistake? The answer is NO!! Others bought in the second time when they should have known better. They were convinced by others. Get out while you can and admit a poor decision.

Whats funny is when the Party comes and go and the PPS drops from all the hard selling.

Even that dufus Melvin said it would take A LONG TIME for whatever stupid plan Urban. To me its all passing $$$$ money from one shell to another
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Good night!
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Wallace #1:
quote:
Up
Yep - and you irritate absolutely no one!

If I do, it's consequential due to my beliefs regarding CMKX. You on the other hand sure seem to have an agenda. You are here to irritate people and to your credit, you do a good job of it.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Rattle, rattle. Rattle, rattle.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by secman:
Whats funny is when the Party comes and go and the PPS drops from all the hard selling.

Even that dufus Melvin said it would take A LONG TIME for whatever stupid plan Urban. To me its all passing $$$$ money from one shell to another


--------------------------------------

Basher / Pumper Rchaud98 aka secman just becomes whatever character the juvenile game he wants to play requires:

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secman

« Thread started on: Sep 6th, 2004, 07:52am »

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://web.njit.edu/~rc28/cmkx/oogie.mp3


treat this as a rumer from paltalk

drilling has stop,because they found what they want.

value is over a trillion

drill was broken on the caroling,cause it hit a pack of diamonds

the restrick will be lifed on the ucad shares.

good news on or before tues.

this is the rumer that is going on at the races.Wait for the PR,but this is going on now at the races.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=3963796


In my humble opinion .01 to .02 by tuesday is impossible and BS

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Wallace, spelling lesson needed here. But go easy, some of these words are hard for a sixth grader.




[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 12, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 12, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Maybe something a little lighter from another board:

Borehole

Re: OT . . . take it for what its worth
« Reply #5 on: Today at 3:57pm »

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hey Golden, that's a pretty cool story. I had a strange dream last week.

I was in the airport and was flying somewhere, I couldn't tell you. I was waiting for my flight and I see they have one of those LED stock ticker signs. And I notice all of the symbols going by. I remember thinking that there is no way I will see CMKX on there. And then CMKX zooms by at $2.55 a share!

I start freaking out and find a pay phone. I have two brokerage accounts but I only had the phone number of one of them. So I get a lady broker on the phone and I verify my account. Just then the symbol zooms by again and CMKX is $5.00-something a share!

So I'm telling her to Sell! Sell! Sell! And for some reason she won't sell. She tries to explain the reason why, but I can't hear her or understand her over the noise in the airport.

The ticker zooms by again and CMKX keeps going up. Now it zooms by every time after about three or four other symbols. It just keeps climbing in price, every time it goes by, now it's $20.00-something a share.

So I'm screaming at this lady to Sell! But she won't sell and I can't understand/hear her reason over all the noise in the airport. I keep thinking she must be in cahoots with the MMs if she won't sell! Then she hangs up the phone on me!

So I'm freaking totally out, as CMKX keeps zooming by. Now it's at $30.00-something a share, then $40.00-something a share and it just keeps climbing. They also have a TV monitor in the airport and there is some stock guy with some breaking-news story about some CMKX diamond company in Canada and how the stock is going through the roof!

I call again and get the same woman. I verify again. I'm totally freaking out and shaking all over. I'm wearing a suit and I'm about to melt from the heat and I am drenched in sweat. I tell her to SELL! But she won't sell! And I can't understand her reasoning! I'm screaming at her in the airport, over the phone to sell, but she won't do it. So I scream that I have all these witnesses in the airport and if she won't sell then I will have to sue her!

Then CMKX zooms by again at $65.45 a share! I remember that price. And the lady on the phone tells me that my order was placed and that I sold my shares. I collapse to the floor, totally wasted from the emotional and physical stress.

And that's all I remember!

LOL! Not sure if that was a nightmare or what, but for some reason, in the dream, something was making me hold those shares until they reached an unbelievable price!

BTW, this dream is not to advise people on when to buy or sell, it was just a dream! GLTA.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Did the bashers run all the CMKX shareholders off? Soon you will have nothing to bash but yourselves.

I always heard a dedicated basher would bankrupt his own mother's company.

You go wally and little brother Beavus.
 


Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
I had the same dream, but I was falling out of the plane on my cell phone. My wife and kids enjoyed the money......Damn...They thought I was crazy to buy..Go Figure..
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WorkAHolic:
I had the same dream, but I was falling out of the plane on my cell phone. My wife and kids enjoyed the money......Damn...They thought I was crazy to buy..Go Figure..


LOL Work


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
this post goes to the otc listings of our dividend split. the cim split is listed as 1.6 trillion and it has been suggested that this is the o/s plus the naked shorts. we have also had it suggested thyat the naked short is over a trillion. does anyone here know if when the mm's sell a naked short share if it shows up in our accounts straight from the mm or doesn't it firtst go through the dtc? in another way to look at it, is the volume we see each day only the real shares traded and not the naked shares? it would mean that instead of around a 3 billion a day average there is really a 6 billion a day average, including naked shorts. my point is that for there to be 1.6 trillion shares both real & naked owned by us at the current average of buys it would take 3 yrs of trading days to get to 1.6 trillion....52 weeks minus weekdays the markets are closed, lets say 51 weeks X 5 trading days = 255 trading days. if the buys average 2 billion a day X 255 = 510 billion buys a yr. lets say UC gave 200 billion shares out in deals & whatever in 2 yrs you get 1.2 trillion. you still need another 6 months to get to 1.6 trillion. we all know the volume has not been that high for that many yrs. even if there were 4 billion buys a day it would take 15 months to get to 1.6 trillion. my point is something is wrong with the otc post of the CIM split, either it isnt for 40 billion shares or sombody is counting shares not sold through the DTC.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
good post bill...
this is more or less what i've been trying to point out....
the other issue there is the time frame between the divivdends(it's not long enough)

my guess is that the number is correct and you all are getting twice as many shares as you expected....why would they do this if not to confuse the issue????
 


Posted by sneither on :
 
(("noahltl and workaholic'))
I also have been having 'dreams' of "Wonderful things to come" with "CMKX"..

I read these boards daily and perfer your positive minds.. makes the waiting easier!
"Go CMKX"....
 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Cmkm Diamond Inc     (OTHER OTC: CMKX) Last Update: 9:30:00 AM ET Sep 13, 2004  
 
CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces 2nd Payment of $2,500,000 from St. George Metals, Inc.

LAS VEGAS, Sep 13, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) is pleased to announce that the Company has received a 2nd payment of $2,500,000 U.S. Dollars from St. George Metals, Inc. (Pink Sheets:SGGM) of the $10,000,000 U.S.D. from the joint venture agreement where St. George Metals, Inc. will purchase a 5% unencumbered and absolute interest in any and all mineral claims held by CMKM Diamonds, Inc. in consideration for $10,000,000 US Dollars and two hundred billion (200,000,000,000) restricted shares of SGGM. The Company is anticipated to receive the remaining two additional payments of $2,500,000 within the next 30 days.

There is no guarantee that further exploration or drilling will produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the company.

This press release contains "forward-looking" statements as that term is defined by Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 (the "Securities Act"), as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (the "Exchange Act"), as amended. All statements that are included in this press release other than statements of historical fact are "forward-looking" statements. Although management believes that the expectations reflecting in these forward-looking statements are reasonable, it can give no assurance that such expectations will prove to have been correct. Important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the expectations as disclosed herein, including without limitation, in conjunction with these forward-looking statements contained in this press release.

SOURCE: CMKM Diamonds, Inc.

CMKM Diamonds Inc.Diamonds Hotline:Melvin O'Neil, 306-752-3755 or 877-752-3755Fax: 306-752-3754

 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Cmkm Diamond Inc     (OTHER OTC: CMKX) Last Update: 9:30:00 AM ET Sep 13, 2004  
 
CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces Saskatchewan Drill Target Update

LAS VEGAS, Sep 13, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) is pleased to announce the company has now reached a total target depth of 808 ft. on the 1st drill target located in the Fort a la Corne, Saskatchewan area. Core samples have been collected from the site and the company is now awaiting geologist findings and their reports.

The drill is now being mobilized to a 2nd target location approximately 1.5 miles south of the 1st hole in and present target in the fort a la Corne area. Drilling of this 2nd location will commence when CMKM Diamonds, Inc. has received the necessary drilling and Surface Exploration Permits. As with all CMKX drill sites, video footage will be available on the company website for viewing to the CMKX shareholders.

The company plans to continue with its expansion of additional equipment and manpower in preparation for a scheduled drill program on priority targets to commence during the winter months.

There is no guarantee that further exploration or drilling will produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the company.

 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
two PR's on the bell. Could this be a sign of things to come? A green week remember
 
Posted by ali on :
 
SGGM soaring on news...

Hold tight

GO CMKX

 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
CMKX Volume -

9:44 - 403,731,040

This is a little higher than late last week
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Anybody thinking that a cash dividend announcement will come out this week?
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
New Reasearch Report for UCAD

----http://reports.finance.yahoo.com/w0?r=33208996:1----
 


Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
Hello all, does anyone know how to tell wether the UCAD divvys have been sent to the DTC for distribution? My broker (Tading Direct) said they must first be sent there before my account gets them. Any thoughts?
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Really quiet here today
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
Really quiet here today


Not much to talk about Jeal. Two new PR's and we still don't know much more than we did. LOL


 


Posted by Bigrod40 on :
 
Quiet?? Everyone is getting sick and tired of all the BS with this stock.
I know Im bored of reading about all the same crap.
The biggest news they seem to talk about is some damn Party in Vegas. I do have a novel idea however....Release a PR that gives us a reason to go to Vegas and Party.
 
Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Good Morning Everyone, I thought I would pop over and say hi. I have been very busy lately and hadn't even been over to read this board in a few days.

Upside-I enjoyed your comments to the board's resident basher.

Wallace-I only have money invested in CMKX. Apparently your sense of worth is invested in CMKX failing. That is very sad. Even if CMKX fails your worth will not change one iota.

For the record I was asked to write a column at CT and I told CT that I would be happy to do that. I also said I would not take a salary for a variety of reasons; but mostly because he (CT) has an orphanage in Uganda with 400 mouths to feed. He later asked me to be the administrator when he leaves to go to Uganda for a month. I also said yes to that and I still have no desire for a salary for taking that role on. As far as CMKX goes -I don't need to 'pump' it to make money-CMKX will be good or bad, with or without me-I think it will be very good-but my source is God. I look to him to provide for me and he does. He may use CMKX or not. I will be blessed either way. If it turns out as well as I hope, I will be able to bless a lot of others with it.

For the record I am still buying CMKX. I only sold 1 million shares at .0009 and bought that one back at .0007. I have about 60 Million shares now. I am amazed at the amount of energy non shareholders spend on this company. I have never seen that happen on any other stock.

There are still some great people and posters on this board and when CMKX is doing well I think that this board will return to what it once was. I enjoy reading the board when it doesn't deteriorate to the level it recently sunk to. GLTA-IMO-Debi
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
noah -

Have to agree - More PR's no PPS no movement - what a surprise eh? LOL

I am here for the long run and have the same expectations as everyone else here. To make a little money. I was fortunate enough to buy at .0001 and will hold tight. Didnt invest more then I could lose ( and really did expect to lose ) so even at .0004, still have to smile.

Unfortunately, many people need to understand that patience truly is a virtue and good things come to those who wait. This is the stock market - and rome wasn't built in a day.

I agree it is somewhat frustrating, but that is what investments, ( PK, OTC, AMEX...) is all about. If it was easy as spending a $1000.00 and 2 months later its worht 50,000 then life would be alot different.

Chin-up everyone and enjoy the breath that you took this morning when you got out of bed.

GLTA

JEAL
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
Debi, i admire your ethics and am truly pleased to hear that you are assisting directly in the support of an orphanage...
if you are surprised at my continued posts here , it is primarily due to my study of how much energy is spent on a company that is OBVIOUSLY abusing the trust of it's shareholders while so many comapany's that aren't go ignored...LOL
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Debi, great to see you back.
 
Posted by safeguard on :
 
So, why is it that CMKX gets $2.5 million and the pps doesn't change but SGGM pays out $2.5 million and it pps runs up?!

The O/S on CMKX is so high that nothing short of hugh discovered diamond field will jump start the pps now?...Is that it?
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
WWJD (aka BS)

She wrote:

Upside-I enjoyed your comments to the board's resident basher.

Wallace-I only have money invested in CMKX. Apparently your sense of worth is invested in CMKX failing. That is very sad. Even if CMKX fails your worth will not change one iota.
---------------------------------------------

Stay over there at CT where you can pump CMKX to your heart's desire. Don't you think I know that you cannot afford to lose the money you have put into this CMKX turkey?

As you once said you will gloat if you are correct, I will GLOAT if I am correct. And, everything points to the latter. Just keep buying while CMKX is dumping and playing pass the money and stock games!

Lots of Luck!

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 13, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Wallace said:

"Stay over there at CT where you can pump CMKX to your heart's desire."


So how do you have the right to expel posters from this board? You are the one who has outstayed their welcome. Post negative DD if you have it. We would all welcome it. If you truly knew anything about the stock market, you would do that. Instead, you only bash individuals, indicating that you do not know anything about this stock, or the market that guides it.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
For your information, noahltl, I AM discussing the CMKX stock and it's being pumped by someone who has little choice but to pump it since her investment is probably well over $20,000.

You are the one attacking personally.

And, as I once said, I have forgotten more about the stock market and trading than either you or most of the people on this CMKX thread will ever know...no matter what you may believe as to my experience and knowledge. Even you on many occasions had to be enlightened by me as to certain aspects of securites trading, as have others.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 13, 2004).]
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Wallace -

I do not post here very often, but am somewhat taken back and border line offended that you not only bash here and the constant bickering that you are involved in, but am somewhat taken back by your pumping of yourself "have forgotten more about the stock market then people here know ( summary ). This is a pretty bold statement to be making and suggest maybe words are chosen a little more carefully.

Thanks for your understanding
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
the truth is a lot of what the bashers say is right...the problem with this thread is both bashers & pumpers do more bashing of each other then the stock all in the name of saving the newbie. if a person came in here looking to maybe buy a few shares and either the bashers or the pumpers helped make that descion they should not be buying any penny stocks both sides point out valid things but it ends up the only ppl that listen are the pumpers for the pumpers and same for the bashers. any real discusion about good & bad gets thrown out. i asked a valid question early this morning yet one 1 reply of any kind and 20 or more calling each other names. i'll ask again...can mm's sell shares and deposit them right into the broker accounts without the DTC recording the transaction...i don't think it works like that.
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
CMKM Diamonds, Inc ( OTC : CMKX )
1481 W. Warm Springs Rd , Suite 133
Las Vegas, NV 89104 www.casavantmining.com
COMPANY CONTACT:
Urban Casavant ( CB/PR/CEO )
P1: (306) 752−3755 | P2: (877) 752−3755
FX: (306) 752−3754
EM: ipr@sasktel.net
TRANSFER AGENT:
Pacific Stock Transfer Company
(702) 361−3033 | Las Vegas, NV
INVESTOR RELATIONS FIRM:
This company handles its own IR in−house.
IR CONTACT:
Melvin O'Neil
(306) 752−3755
ipr@sasktel.net
State of Inc: NEVADA
Year of Inc: 2002
Industry: Metals/Mining
SIC Number: 1499
Web Focus? No
Locations: 1
Employees: 0
Development Stage? Y
Common Par: $ .0001
Authorized: 10,000,000,000
Outstanding: 7,241,653,404
Public Float: N/A
Market Cap: $ 2.17M
Recent Price: $ 0.000
52 Week HIGH: $ 0.009
52 Week LOW: $ 0.000
Avg Share Vol: N/A
Avg Dollar Vol: N/A
Avg # Trades: N/A
Avg Spread %: N/A
Avg % Volatility: N/A
Avg % Chg: N/A
50d Moving Avg: N/A
50d Support: N/A
50d Resistance: N/A
KNOBIAS STOCK SCORE
EventX Usage: 0
Tour Video: 0
Financial Reporting: 2
Institutional Hldgs: 0
Spread Rating: −1
Liquidity Rating: 1
Volatility Rating: 2
TOTAL SCORE: 4
YEAR HIGH PRICE LOW PRICE OPEN CLOSE % CHG
No Historical Market Data Available.
2 YEAR STOCK CHART by Stockpoint © 2001
TICKER & NAME HISTORY
CMKI Cyber Mark Intl Corp until 07/25/2000
CMKIE Cyber Mark Intl Corp until 07/27/2000
CMKI Cyber Mark Intl Corp until 04/23/2001
CMKIE Cyber Mark Intl Corp until 05/03/2001
CMKI Cyber Mark Intl Corp until 08/27/2001
CMKIE Cyber Mark Intl Corp until 08/31/2001
CMKI Cyber Mark Intl Corp until 04/22/2002
CMKIE Cyber Mark Intl Corp until 05/22/2002
CMKI Cyber Mark Intl Corp until 01/29/2003
CMKM Casavant Mining Kimberlite International until 04/23/2003
CMKME Casavant Mining Kimberlite International until 05/22/2003
CMKM Casavant Mining Kimberlite International until 03/10/2004

MANAGEMENT & INSIDERS (mgmt title legend)
Samuel Singal −
XCB/XCOO/XDIR
Ian McIntyre −
XPR/XSEC/XTR/XDIR
Urban Casavant − CB/PR/CEO
Carolyn Casavant − EX VP/DIR
Wesley Casavant − SEC/TR
Rupert A. I. Perrin − DIR
Cindy Casavant − DIR
http://cobrand.knobias.com/templates/aware/view/issuerservices.htm?ticker=CMKX&site=IH
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Jeal,

It just happens to be true. I have never been one to pussy-foot around about what I have to say.

Have you any idea what it is like to manage two divisions of the top securities market and handle everything that goes in and out of that market for over 3000 companies?

Bill,

I am willing to bet they can, but am not 100% sure. They may also have some kind of a delay permitted if they must report to the DTC.

PS: Bill, the reason I think that is because I believe that whenever a trade is executed, the broker is promptly advised by their particular MM.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 13, 2004).]
 


Posted by kbpkt on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
Maybe something a little lighter from another board:

Borehole

Re: OT . . . take it for what its worth
« Reply #5 on: Today at 3:57pm »


Are you sure the symbol was not BXMNF? Oh well, CMKX, same idea, different time.
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces Saskatchewan Drill Target Update

LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--09/13/2004--CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) is pleased to announce the company has now reached a total target depth of 808 ft. on the 1st drill target located in the Fort a la Corne, Saskatchewan area. Core samples have been collected from the site and the company is now awaiting geologist findings and their reports.

The drill is now being mobilized to a 2nd target location approximately 1.5 miles south of the 1st hole in and present target in the fort a la Corne area. Drilling of this 2nd location will commence when CMKM Diamonds, Inc. has received the necessary drilling and Surface Exploration Permits. As with all CMKX drill sites, video footage will be available on the company website for viewing to the CMKX shareholders.

The company plans to continue with its expansion of additional equipment and manpower in preparation for a scheduled drill program on priority targets to commence during the winter months.

There is no guarantee that further exploration or drilling will produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the company.

This press release contains "forward-looking" statements as that term is defined by Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 (the "Securities Act"), as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (the "Exchange Act"), as amended. All statements that are included in this press release other than statements of historical fact are "forward-looking" statements. Although management believes that the expectations reflecting in these forward-looking statements are reasonable, it can give no assurance that such expectations will prove to have been correct. Important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the expectations as disclosed herein, including without limitation, in conjunction with these forward-looking statements contained in this press release.

CONTACT:CMKM Diamonds Inc. Diamonds Hotline: Melvin O'Neil, 306-752-3755 or 877-752-3755 Fax: 306-752-3754

SOURCE: CMKM Diamonds, Inc.


 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Updated: 09:39 AM EDT
CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces 2nd Payment of $2,500,000 from St. George Metals, Inc.

LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--09/13/2004--CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) is pleased to announce that the Company has received a 2nd payment of $2,500,000 U.S. Dollars from St. George Metals, Inc. (Pink Sheets:SGGM) of the $10,000,000 U.S.D. from the joint venture agreement where St. George Metals, Inc. will purchase a 5% unencumbered and absolute interest in any and all mineral claims held by CMKM Diamonds, Inc. in consideration for $10,000,000 US Dollars and two hundred billion (200,000,000,000) restricted shares of SGGM. The Company is anticipated to receive the remaining two additional payments of $2,500,000 within the next 30 days.

There is no guarantee that further exploration or drilling will produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the company.

This press release contains "forward-looking" statements as that term is defined by Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 (the "Securities Act"), as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (the "Exchange Act"), as amended. All statements that are included in this press release other than statements of historical fact are "forward-looking" statements. Although management believes that the expectations reflecting in these forward-looking statements are reasonable, it can give no assurance that such expectations will prove to have been correct. Important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the expectations as disclosed herein, including without limitation, in conjunction with these forward-looking statements contained in this press release.

CONTACT:CMKM Diamonds Inc. Diamonds Hotline: Melvin O'Neil, 306-752-3755 or 877-752-3755 Fax: 306-752-3754

SOURCE: CMKM Diamonds, Inc.


09/13/2004 09:30 EASTERN


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
at some point every share sold by an mm must be recorded by the DTC, there might be a delay but it gets there.....i'm pointing this out because the math says it takes 255 trading days (about 1 yrs worth) at a buy rate of 6 billion per day (total volume minus sells) to get to 1.53 trillion shares or close to the CIM split. next question...does anyone think that every day 6 billion shares are bought and none sold?
 
Posted by cool1sh on :
 
UCAD Does Webcast with www.TheGreenBaron.Com

2004-09-13 12:46 ET - News Release

LAS VEGAS -- (Business Wire) -- Sept. 13, 2004

U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. (OTCBB: UCAD) announced
today that CEO Rendal Williams has conducted a CEO webcast to
shareholders and the investment community on the current and future
prospects of U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. The webcast is conducted by
Evergreen Marketing Inc. and will be available to the general public
on The Green Baron Investors Society's Web site at www.TheGreenBaron.com on Wednesday, 9-15-2004.
"This CEO webcast is a fantastic way for investors to hear
firsthand what U.S. Canadian Minerals is trying to accomplish," stated
Williams. He went on to say, "I hope investors find this CEO webcast
helpful in further understanding the potential value of the company
and the strong business relationships it has built."
The CEO webcast with CEO Rendal Williams of U.S. Canadian
Minerals Inc. is conducted by Evergreen Marketing Inc. and its
subsidiary The Green Baron Investors Society. Evergreen Marketing is a
company designed to help create a supportive relationship between
public companies and its shareholders. For more information about
Evergreen Marketing Inc. or its subsidiary, The Green Baron Investors
Society, visit them on the Web at www.EvergreenMarketingInc.com and www.TheGreenBaron.com.


 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Wallace -

I applaud your past track record. however, I need to apologize, that I am still somewhat offended, that you would think such "ignorance" of self pumping would aid in effective discussions on CMKX.
All the best in your future endeavors, however, I do ask that you keep such self pumping to ones self - i honestly belevie that it would aid in more constructive DD - poitive or negative - on this stock.

Bill - I have to agree with your statements on bashers and pumpers.
However, unfortunately, neither few on this board are going to either make or break this stock.

JEAL
 


Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
the truth is a lot of what the bashers say is right...the problem with this thread is both bashers & pumpers do more bashing of each other then the stock all in the name of saving the newbie. if a person came in here looking to maybe buy a few shares and either the bashers or the pumpers helped make that descion they should not be buying any penny stocks both sides point out valid things but it ends up the only ppl that listen are the pumpers for the pumpers and same for the bashers. any real discusion about good & bad gets thrown out. i asked a valid question early this morning yet one 1 reply of any kind and 20 or more calling each other names. i'll ask again...can mm's sell shares and deposit them right into the broker accounts without the DTC recording the transaction...i don't think it works like that.

DITTO Bill, and I haven't read a word about whether one can tell if the UCAD divvys were sent to the DTC or not...for anyone who is even remotely interested and I trly cannot see why anyone at all on this post should be, I have never bought a stock in my life till this one and have been reading this thread since June wheb I got in at .0005. It's extremely difficult for me to imagine that after all's been released in pr's and said in all the message boards, this entire enterprise can be a scam.
If this companies CEO is planning on committing suicide leaving a note with only a crudely drawn middle finger on it, or spending the rest of his life the richest man in solitary confinement, then perhaps I can concede the point. However, letting everyone know who you are, and where you can be found is not exactly the hallmark of the true con. Well under the radar is also preferable to low profile in those circumstances. It's the social misfit that thrives on obnoxious intervention when others are relating civily. Quite boring really. It, as they say, takes all kinds. and sadly, we're all here

 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
DTC Settlement Service

Settlement Service
The Settlement Service facilitates end-of-day net settlement of a participant's net settlement obligations resulting from trading activity. Collateralization controls and net debit caps are employed by DTC to protect participants against the inability of one or more participants to pay for their settlement obligations.
DTC's collateralization controls prevent the completion of transactions that would cause a participant's net debit to exceed the total available collateral in its account. This assures that a participant that fails to pay for its settlement obligation will have sufficient collateral in its account to liquidate in the event it were insolvent. DTC's net debit cap controls limit the net settlement debit that each participant can incur to an amount, based upon activity level, which is less than DTC's total liquidity. This helps ensure that DTC will have sufficient liquidity to complete settlement should any single participant fail to settle.


http://www.dtc.org/dtcpublic/html/lob1/


 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
at some point every share sold by an mm must be recorded by the DTC, there might be a delay but it gets there.....i'm pointing this out because the math says it takes 255 trading days (about 1 yrs worth) at a buy rate of 6 billion per day (total volume minus sells) to get to 1.53 trillion shares or close to the CIM split. next question...does anyone think that every day 6 billion shares are bought and none sold?

No.
 


Posted by kbpkt on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Justhis1ce:
DITTO Bill, and I haven't read a word about whether one can tell if the UCAD divvys were sent to the DTC or not...for anyone who is even remotely interested and I trly cannot see why anyone at all on this post should be, I have never bought a stock in my life till this one and have been reading this thread since June wheb I got in at .0005. It's extremely difficult for me to imagine that after all's been released in pr's and said in all the message boards, this entire enterprise can be a scam.
If this companies CEO is planning on committing suicide leaving a note with only a crudely drawn middle finger on it, or spending the rest of his life the richest man in solitary confinement, then perhaps I can concede the point. However, letting everyone know who you are, and where you can be found is not exactly the hallmark of the true con. Well under the radar is also preferable to low profile in those circumstances. It's the social misfit that thrives on obnoxious intervention when others are relating civily. Quite boring really. It, as they say, takes all kinds. and sadly, we're all here

Maybe he will jump (or get pushed) out of a helicopter in the middle of the jungle. You never know.
 


Posted by netsec on :
 
Wallace#1 I've never posted before, just enjoy my time reading posts by other people. I've been doing it for about 5 months now and never really felt the need to add anything...until now. Here is a little info Wallace#1. If you are going to say things like:

********
And, as I once said, I have forgotten more about the stock market and trading than either you or most of the people on this CMKX thread will ever know...no matter what you may believe as to my experience and knowledge. Even you on many occasions had to be enlightened by me as to certain aspects of securites trading, as have others.
*********
Have you any idea what it is like to manage two divisions of the top securities market and handle everything that goes in and out of that market for over 3000 companies?
*********

You have to remember that Allstocks keeps a record of your posts. Back in March you asked the following question of a user from Allstocks:

Under this thread
mm on the bid Wallace#1 March 10, 2004

Hippo - Paul
I take it NITE and JEFF are certain MM's. How do you know their ID's? How do you know which stock(s) a MM is handling? How do you know how exactly how many shares are traded each time whether at a lower, equal or higher price? Sure would appreciate an explanation of each!!!

So I am asking very nicely, please, do not make up facts about yourself knowing more than you do with comments about "3000 companies" and "forgetting more than". It is unfair to newer users who might believe what you say.


 


Posted by dwman on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wallace#1:
[B]Jeal,

It just happens to be true. I have never been one to pussy-foot around about what I have to say.

Have you any idea what it is like to manage two divisions of the top securities market and handle everything that goes in and out of that market for over 3000 companies?

WOW!!! Wallace, I'm impressed. You are paid to bash for 3000 companies???
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
wow 5 or 6 posts without name calling...lol THANK YOU FOLKS!!!!!

ucad dividends will not be distributed till the pay date which is tenitive according to ameritrade...supposed to be the 24th...they will take a day or 2 to show up in our accounts according to ameritrade

trading...i agree and as noah just posted mm's need to record such buys with the dtc fast. thus my point about both CIM & UCAD splits according to OTC. the UCAd, ok maybe UC matched numbers with the DTC and found 800 billion shares were owned by ppl both real & naked thus the 300 billion increase in a/s and the OTC post on the split... UC didn't want to leave anyone out (who knows) but i.6 trillion??? thats 2 billion buys only for every trading day for 3 years. the dividend has to have been cut in half its the only thing that makes the numbers work
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Dr Diamond talk on PalTalk Tonight. Posted 13 Sep 2004

By: jarihai2520
13 Sep 2004, 12:33 AM EDT
Msg. 80539 of 80576
Jump to msg. #

Dr Diamonds talk on PalTalk Tonight.

Posts of interest mentioned tonight:

1>>>>Casavant Mining Kimberlite International OTC BB CMKI Chairman
Announces Mineral Claim Acquisitions
Business Wire, Nov 27, 2002 http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2002_Nov_27/ai_94659909

2>>>>Casavant Mining Kimberlite International Announces Letter of Intent to
Acquire Diamond Mining Company and Shareholder Meeting
January 15, 2003 in Las Vegas, NV
Business Wire, Dec 4, 2002 http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2002_Dec_4/ai_94853756

3>>>>Casavant Mining Kimberlite International Announces Purchase Bid for
Latest Model Truck Mounted Drilling Rig with Diamond Exploration Schedule
Business Wire, Dec 2, 2002 http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2002_Dec_2/ai_94740046

On Dr Diamonds PalTalk site he stated tonight that we do not have a "true" evaluation on the site that is currently being drilled, However it is an area of about 2 x 1.75 miles and based on the sampling and by taking a "conservative" approach this ONE pipe ( and there are 106 of them), has a value based on 1/2 Carat per Ton of some $665 Billion and a 'better' estimate and still VERY conservative would be an evaluation of about 2 Trillion $ per pipe.

He said all the math is in his posts in "One Million Millionaires club" postings but that what he is sayng tonight is close enough to show that we, CMKX stockholders, have absolutely "nothing to be concerned with" we need only to wait, let our 'dream team' do their thing and "probably" by the first part of October we will start seeing phenomenal increases in the PPS.

That whether we have 1 million or 500 million shares we will all become very well off with whatever our share holdings might be.

The secret will be in holding the stock for the long haul.

That he was in a conversation with some people close to what was happening, not "insider" info, just people that are aware of what actually is transpiring and this happened today and he wanted to let us know that we need only to be patient for a little while longer. Just continue enforcing your position in CMKX and not to worry about O/S, A/S the machinations of the companies or when we will receive PR's , dividends or anything else.

The VALUE is there and it is beyond our/your wildest dreams.

WE will know as soon as Urban et al deem it in the best interest of CMKX and all the partners. That the value is all and more than could ever be imagined, that this 'find' The FALC is the mineral wealth of this century. To not worry, just do what you will to enforce you position and do your financial planning and just WAIT.

It is there,it is unbelievable and it is only a matter of Urban, Glenn, and others to make sure all the parts are in place then the PPS, The PR's everything will start flowing.

FWIW My mind is now at rest I am going to kick back, and wait, I am going to purchase more stock as I feel I can afford and I am going to make plans for Las Vegas, and The rest of this year I am going to plan on the wealth that is definitely there.

I did talk with DR Diamond, I did hear basically what I have posted and more and I wish no one to trade based on what I may or may not do. I am putting in this disclaimer only as a CYA.Do not take my word for any of this for making financial decisions.

The November 27, 2002 post above is the one that Dr. Diamond kept referring to in his presentation tonight . I have listed the relevant posts for DD purposes.

GLTY and us and All

Jari
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=80539
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Noah,
That pal-talk is tonight?

 
Posted by kbpkt on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
Dr Diamond talk on PalTalk Tonight. Posted 13 Sep 2004

By: jarihai2520
13 Sep 2004, 12:33 AM EDT
Msg. 80539 of 80576
Jump to msg. #


WE will know as soon as Urban et al deem it in the best interest of CMKX and all the partners. That the value is all and more than could ever be imagined, that this 'find' The FALC is the mineral wealth of this century. To not worry, just do what you will to enforce you position and do your financial planning and just WAIT.
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=80539[/URL]


If you believe this, I also heard about the largest gold find ever down in Indonesia. Even JP Morgan is underwriting this stock.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?d=t&s=BXMNF.PK

We'll all be rich!!

 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
Noah,
That pal-talk is tonight?

It was on last night. Dr. D. recently opened a PalTalk site that isn't as crazy as Sterling's. He didn't say that, I did. Anyway, it is a small site, only max of 50. Usually best time is evening. Password is "rocks". Conversations and postings are mostly on point. Dr. D. is frequently there at night, and the first thing I noticed about hearing him talk, is that he is a very refined and well spoken businessman. Not the "wild eyed" crazy that his opponents try to paint him.


 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
It was on last night. Dr. D. recently opened a PalTalk site that isn't as crazy as Sterling's. He didn't say that, I did. Anyway, it is a small site, only max of 50. Usually best time is evening. Password is "rocks". Conversations and postings are mostly on point. Dr. D. is frequently there at night, and the first thing I noticed about hearing him talk, is that he is a very refined and well spoken businessman. Not the "wild eyed" crazy that his opponents try to paint him.


Thank-you.

 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
green baron's guy is supposed to be on christain traders radio tomorrow at 5:30 eastern
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
green baron's guy is supposed to be on christain traders radio tomorrow at 5:30 eastern

Thanks for reminding me Bill. While some don't trust him, because he owns shares, I think that makes him more credible. After 6 months of this stock being hyped and pumped, it still hasn't moved a great deal. So I doubt that he would expend a great deal of energy further pumping it. Everyone knows that all that will move this stock, is the revelation of the final "plan", and.........DIAMONDS.

 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
netsec,

Suggest you read a few other posts as well.

Facts are facts! Very much unlike all the rumor and speculation one is bombarded with on this CMKX thread.

I assume you are also holding CMKX shares.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 13, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
netsec,

Suggest you read a few other posts as well.

Facts are facts! Very much unlike all the rumor and speculation one is bombarded with on this CMKX thread.



Please enlighten us with those facts. That's all I've asked for. All we see is bashing, opinion and self promotion. And I've read all of your posts on this thread.


 


Posted by gmac78 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
Noah,
That pal-talk is tonight?

Trading,

I think it may be talking about the night of the 12th as the post was after midnight (morning of the 13th).

------------------
gmac
 


Posted by gmac78 on :
 
Sorry Trading,

I see Noah already answered that!!!!!

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gmac
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
JJSeabrook
CIM dividend rate?
« Thread started on: Today at 1:35pm »

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Read on another board that TD Waterhouse sent a letter stating that the CIM dividend has a payable date of Oct 1 at .0256 restricted shares of CIM for every 1 share of CMKX. Has anyone else seen this?

I am NOT stating this as fact. Just wanted to know if any of our members had received this or something like it yet.

JJ


Dear Client

Thank you for your inquiry regarding the latest CMKX dividend.

The details of the dividend are as follows:

Record Date - 08/31/2004
Ex-Dividend Date - 08/30/2004
Payable Date - 10/01/2004

Distribution - 0.0256 of a restricted share of Casavant International Mining
for each common share of CMKX

We trust this is of assistance. Please feel free to contact us if you have
any further questions.

Sincerely

Customer Relations Representative
Customer Support Group
TD Waterhouse Canada Inc.

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 13, 2004).]
 


Posted by netsec on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
JJSeabrook
CIM dividend rate?
« Thread started on: Today at 1:35pm »


I received this on Friday by TD Waterhouse as well.

Yes, Wallace#1, I do own CMKX stock. And if you are implying that by owning the stock i am automatically a pumper you are a little off base. I have numerous issues with this stock. I've been trying for the last 4 months to find any papers or info written by the geologist that did the initial review of the site...and haven't been able to find anything. I do have concerns, but with any stock there are always concerns and risks. Everything in life is a risk Wallace, walking to your car in the morning to go to work is a risk. Everyone needs to find their own threshold for the amount of risk they are willing to take.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Then attempt to learn something.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:

Please enlighten us with those facts. That's all I've asked for. All we see is bashing, opinion and self promotion. And I've read all of your posts on this thread.


Noah, shame on you. Don't you know that wallace is a paid basher for 3000 companies or did he say he manages 3000 companies. He is one brilliant and busy guy.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Just thinking out loud, if there was a PR tomorrow announcing the lab results from the second sample of "Carolyn", or from the current drilling. And if that PR announced that diamonds had been found of anything from a moderate to a major find, what does eveyone think would happen? Can you move the MM's off of .0004. Why would anyone offer more than the ask? How would the PPS rise just on good news? As long as the MM's can just create new shares out of the air, market pressure cannot make the PPS rise.

I only bring this up to point out that we hae to move out of Pinks to get away from the MM's NSS before we can see any appreciable rise in PPS. Roger knows this, and "first things first" is the agenda. When we have moved up, then those kind of announcements can be made, and not before.

Just my uneducated opinion.
 


Posted by legal1082 on :
 
This may have already been said previously, but has anyone thought that Urban and Roger may want the pps to stay the same? The reason being that if it starts to rise say to .0010, then alot of people would sell shars and I assume that would hurt the company. I think I saw a PR from another company basically saying that the day trading had hurt them financially. Again I am pretty new, so if this doesn't make any sense, don't crucify me!!! Definately want some feed back if possible.
 
Posted by rde3 on :
 
Just bot another Mil at 0.0003

guess you can buy at that price.....
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legal1082:
This may have already been said previously, but has anyone thought that Urban and Roger may want the pps to stay the same? The reason being that if it starts to rise say to .0010, then alot of people would sell shars and I assume that would hurt the company. I think I saw a PR from another company basically saying that the day trading had hurt them financially. Again I am pretty new, so if this doesn't make any sense, don't crucify me!!! Definately want some feed back if possible.

Legal, if the PPS went up to .0010 and there was some selling, I don't think it would hurt the company as much as the shareholder who sold.

However, if Urban wants to "buyout" the CMKX shares, then a spike in PPS would probably hurt that attempt and cost him a lot more money. That's the only reason I can see for not wanting it to run. This would apply too, if he is trying to back the shares into a new vehicle like CIM or SGGM, etc. Especially if he is wanting to move them at a one to one ratio. JMHO

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 13, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Melvin on Sterlings PalTalk, talking about drilling depths on the hole just completed, accidentally referred to the "kimberlite" before hurriedly correcting himself back to "Stuff".

The samples saved were in 50 tubes, 4.5 feet long, and I assume still 2". That's a lot of "stuff".

The geologist still hasn't arrived to examine these samples. He will check them and see which ones should be sent for assay.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Well, it looked like bad news this afternoon as hundreds of millions of shares were traded at .0003 before the bell. At the last moment one of the MM's pushed through a .0004 to ring the bell.

So, what's up with that? IMO, the large block of shares that were rumored to have been unloaded by a CMKX insider, have now been depleted. If Urban sold them shares to help them out of their bind, that's over. What they will have to do now is try desperately to shake some shares loose from shareholders.

We may see several days of the PPS being driven down by the MM's to accomplish this.
If you are frightened by this, then perhaps now is the best time for you to get out, because I suspect it will be a very bumpy road for a few days.

Those with the intestinal fortitude should be rewarded for the wait. If they can't shake us, then they have to keep up-ing the offer for our shares between now and the end of Sept. in order to cover before the dividends have to be paid.

All just my opinion, but it looks like time to fasten your seat belts.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
When you move the drill 1.5 miles and you are still in the same anomaly, well, that should open some eyes.
 
Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
NOAH
Althouh the PR today about drill did not say much as far as the shareholder goes . It may have reinforced a plan to clean up any shorts. Basically knowing a large kimberlite tube has been identified(even without results) applies a certain pressure(if diamonds materialize and we get caught short ??) Dr.Diamonds assessment of tons of diamonds is staggering.
VAN
 
Posted by casico on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
JJSeabrook
CIM dividend rate?
« Thread started on: Today at 1:35pm »



Help me am i reaidng this right..basicaly 2% of my shares will be given in CIM ? so for every 1mil i get 20k in CIM @4.50 a share?
What is wrong with my picture? HELP me understand
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by casico:
quote:
Help me am i reaidng this right..basicaly 2% of my shares will be given in CIM ? so for every 1mil i get 20k in CIM @4.50 a share?
What is wrong with my picture? HELP me understand

Casico,
That would be nice wouldn't it but it's not the case. I'm assuming you looked up the price of CIM High Yield Securities which has the ticker symbol CIM. The CIM that we're getting is different. It's not a publicly traded company. Until it becomes so, the shares you are getting are basically worthless.

 


Posted by casico on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by casico:
Casico,
That would be nice wouldn't it but it's not the case. I'm assuming you looked up the price of CIM High Yield Securities which has the ticker symbol CIM. The CIM that we're getting is different. It's not a publicly traded company. Until it becomes so, the shares you are getting are basically worthless.

Thanks that makes alot more sense



 


Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
We may see several days of the PPS being driven down by the MM's to accomplish this.
If you are frightened by this, then perhaps now is the best time for you to get out, because I suspect it will be a very bumpy road for a few days.

Those with the intestinal fortitude should be rewarded for the wait. If they can't shake us, then they have to keep up-ing the offer for our shares between now and the end of Sept. in order to cover before the dividends have to be paid.


Amazing what a difference a couple of months make. When I first bought CMKX in June, I had at leat one eye on the ticker ALL DAY LONG (kind of like a chameleon LOL), and I was scared sh!tless when the PPS went down a tick. I was sweating bullets back then. Now, I come home at night, read the threads, and if somewhere it tells me where we closed then that's fine, otherwise I won't even bother looking it up. It's almost like I don't care anymore!
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
A new post from Green Baron
---------------------------
The Green Baron Report continues to believe that August Focus Stock CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (CMKX) is building the foundation of a future first class mining operation. We are convinced that CMKM Diamonds is sitting on extremely valuable mining property, and that CMKX stock remains vastly undervalued. In the past week, CMKM Diamonds has received another $5,000,000 in cash; $2.5 million from a partial option exercise from U.S. Canadian Minerals and $2.5 million from St. George Metals, Inc. (SGGM).

In our experience, when companies pay cash for something there is usually solid evidence that a large return is expected on that money, and that the money is earmarked to be spent on specific projects. The Green Baron Report views the confidence of companies like UCAD and SGGM in the future prospects of CMKX holdings as tremendous without knowing what really lies beneath the ground. It makes one think that there may be some very positive drilling results that have not been disseminated yet. We shall see!

Speaking of drilling, it was also announced today that CMKM Diamonds has now reached a total target depth of 808 ft. on the first drill target located in the Fort a la Corne, Saskatchewan area. Core samples have been collected from the site and the company is now awaiting geologist findings and their reports. The drill is now being mobilized to a second target approximately 1.5 miles south of the first hole in and present target. Drilling of the second location will commence when CMKM Diamonds has received the necessary drilling and Surface Exploration Permits.

The Green Baron Report does not like to comment or focus on rumors. However, several sources have indicated that a significant portion of the first drill target depth contained kimberlite (possibly well over 300 ft.). We also believe that the second target location is likely part of the same kimberlite formation. If core sample results from these two sites are solidly dimondiferous, this very well could wind up being one of the largest diamond finds in the world. Once again, we will need to be patient for results, but still believe CMKX is The Stock Play of a Lifetime.

Finally, our parent company CEO, Mr. Ed Miller, has been asked to speak on the radio show “Prosperity for God’s People” at www.familyvaluesradio.com at 2:30 P.S.T. on Tuesday, September 14 regarding our following of CMKM Diamonds, Inc. The show can also be heard locally at 1280 AM in the Phoenix, Arizona area. He has also been asked to debate our stance on CMKM Diamonds against a representative of Stock Patrol next week. We do not know if the representative from Stock Patrol has accepted the invitation at this time. If the terms and conditions are acceptable by all parties and a debate can be arranged we will inform our members once we have a specific date and time confirmed.

 


Posted by will on :
 
Upside wrote:
"It's not a publicly traded company. Until it becomes so, the shares you are getting are basically worthless."
quote:
Originally posted by casico:
Thanks that makes alot more sense


I had to laugh when I read worthless makes sense. lol. This is the weirdest stock I've seen.

 


Posted by RevDew1 on :
 
highwaychild:
If a person has to work during that time period. Is their a way we can still hear
or even see the high points in print?
Thanks!


"Finally, our parent company CEO, Mr. Ed Miller, has been asked to speak on the radio show “Prosperity for God’s People” at www.familyvaluesradio.com at 2:30 P.S.T. on Tuesday, September 14 regarding our following of CMKM Diamonds, Inc. The show can also be heard locally at 1280 AM in the Phoenix, Arizona area. He has also been asked to debate our stance on CMKM Diamonds against a representative of Stock Patrol next week."
 


Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
NOAH
Althouh the PR today about drill did not say much as far as the shareholder goes . It may have reinforced a plan to clean up any shorts. Basically knowing a large kimberlite tube has been identified(even without results) applies a certain pressure(if diamonds materialize and we get caught short ??) Dr.Diamonds assessment of tons of diamonds is staggering.
VAN

If the naked short is to be eleminated completely, dividends issued as well as an announcement of diamonds will start a wild rise in pps. It will be an interesting 3 weeks. I really do believe you need to put your seat belts on. We would all probably do ourselves some good if we shut down for 2 weeks and come back when the fireworks start.

It's hard to, though, we're all addicted.

The key is to hold, hold, hold. We should all have a solid plan on what we will do with our shares.


 


Posted by secman on :
 
Three months passed since RG began to work OTCBB (June PR). RG may need another 3 months to finish the work or may never finish the work. I just have a bad feeling about RG. The O/S is at least 800 B. No sample results, no O/S info, just BS PR once a week. Now, Sterling becomes very active, and Willy drymouth Melvin all become very hyper on Paltalk. They all seem forget what RG has told them. This is really concerned me. Now, thegreenbaron is going to do UCAD show...haha

When too many hypers or pumpers are on it and the stock price keeps dropping, hmmmmm.....someone is really desperate to get out....Lets see....Melvin has over 1 B, Sterling has more than 200 M + free shrs, Dry has 300 M, Willy has 960 M, stockcrow has 150 M according to RB........
 


Posted by will on :
 
Aren't there still some sample core reports that are overdue?
I thought Melvin said there would be a PR regarding them a few weeks ago?

 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RevDew1:
highwaychild:
If a person has to work during that time period. Is their a way we can still hear
or even see the high points in print?
Thanks!

I hope so Rev,But I don't know.
I'm a working man too.
I think I would pay to see a good honest debate with stock patrol and Green Baron.LOL
 


Posted by secman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Aren't there still some sample core reports that are overdue?
I thought Melvin said there would be a PR regarding them a few weeks ago?

Occums razor.... the samples sucked hence why no news. kthnx
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
What the heck are you guys doing on Allstocks tonight? Don't you realize the PACKERS are on Monday Night Football?
 
Posted by will on :
 
Hey they play the Bears next week, Upman. No, I won't wager unless you give me at least 30 points.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
What the heck are you guys doing on Allstocks tonight? Don't you realize the PACKERS are on Monday Night Football?


 


Posted by secman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Hey they play the Bears next week, Upman. No, I won't wager unless you give me at least 30 points.


haven't you lost enough money yet?
 


Posted by will on :
 
What do you know what I lost. Go play with the kids, get out of my face. I don't play your crap, moe.

quote:
Originally posted by secman:
haven't you lost enough money yet?


 


Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
My lowtardes broker informed me today that i have had 69 shares of ucad restricted stock posted to my account. I had to accept it.
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
HA HA HA.Oh I got a close eye on it Upman.Farve is SO fun to watch.You NEVER know what he's going to pull off next.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Touchdown PACKERS! 24 points Will, that's my best offer!
 
Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by secman:
Three months passed since RG began to work OTCBB (June PR). RG may need another 3 months to finish the work or may never finish the work. I just have a bad feeling about RG. The O/S is at least 800 B. No sample results, no O/S info, just BS PR once a week. Now, Sterling becomes very active, and Willy drymouth Melvin all become very hyper on Paltalk. They all seem forget what RG has told them. This is really concerned me. Now, thegreenbaron is going to do UCAD show...haha

When too many hypers or pumpers are on it and the stock price keeps dropping, hmmmmm.....someone is really desperate to get out....Lets see....Melvin has over 1 B, Sterling has more than 200 M + free shrs, Dry has 300 M, Willy has 960 M, stockcrow has 150 M according to RB........



This might hold water if there were a lot of nervousness about this stock. The thing is, it seems to me like it's institutional selling of this stock, not individuals. Most stock shares sold are from big lots with millions of shares, or assumed shares moving through the system. The buys are coming in in much smaller multiples from differrent sources. That tells me that stockholder confidence is very high with many buyers and stock availability is from a limited source.

When the big buys come in, coupled with the covering of any naked shorts, gives the potential of the PPS moving up very fast.

Of course, it will take a diamond discovery to really make a difference. Once the share structure is corrected and we get on a legitimate board, this stock will skyrocket. All the bshing in the world won't stop it. We just need diamonds....


 


Posted by will on :
 
I'll think on it. You know, you should never give more than 9 points on a progame. Some kinda gamblers unwritten rule, always take 9 or more.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Touchdown PACKERS! 24 points Will, that's my best offer!


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
if even some of the naked short idea's are true there is no way to cover. if you use the 2 dividend splits as a base it becomes obvious. the a/s is 800 billion unless it has been raised again. CIM split says 1.6 trillion shares unless the amount of shares given to shareholders has been changed. 1 idea says CIM split is naked & real combined, say that is right, it means every person that holds even 1 shares from us to insiders has to sell to cover the naked short. i can't speak for anyone but i'll either lose it all or i'm not selling my first share till i see .50 pps. in my younger days i've spent more in 1 night partying then i have in cmkx so why not go for the home run. this leaves us and the entire market with a mining stock 5 to 6 months away from any real info on diamonds in their claims (carolyn is a miss or we would have heard, all mining companies have a few miss's)and a 800 billion a/s. any company with a 800 billion a/s and a pps going to the .50 area with no real reason is going to bring every stock market watch dog breathing down its neck asking why. if even a few ppl dont sell any naked short using the differance in the dividend split as a number base can not be covered completely. so if i'm a mm why even try to cover. still the math says it can not be shorted that much, thats 2 billion shares bought and not sold later every trading day for almost 3 yrs. that did not happen
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
24-7 PACK at the end of the 3rd! If they keep playing like this I'm gonna have to spray paint my dog green and gold!
 
Posted by will on :
 
Good idea, you're dog will love you. All those Packer fans will be feeding him Brats.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
24-7 PACK at the end of the 3rd! If they keep playing like this I'm gonna have to spray paint my dog green and gold!


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by will:
quote:
Good idea, you're dog will love you. All those Packer fans will be feeding him Brats.

Nah, I'd never do that will. Believe me though, there are some crazy fools up here who would. If they have a good season, you'll see guys out in mid winter painting their houses green and gold, beat up old cars driving around painted in Packer motif, people walking around with cheese on their heads, etc. It gets crazy and I'm about 100 miles south of Green Bay, I can't imagine what goes on up there during a good year.
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
UCAD dividend was not mentioned in my account statement I recieved snail mail today from Mytrades. I wrote MyTrades an email a few weeks ago with a few questions re: this dividend and they never responded. I wrote them another asking a different question that had to do with CMKX - they never answered. Seems to me they don't wanna talk about CMKX. lol
Guess I'm gonna have to get huffy!
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
Great post bill. I'm not selling either.
 
Posted by emunahstock on :
 
Hey old buddies. I am still in this one waiting for the ride. Great things yet to come. Anyone who does their DD will see we are standing on a winner. cmkx the future diamond King... just have to wait it out a bit longer.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
From another board

Link: http://www.gov.sk.ca/newsrel/releases/2004/09/10-537.html

Content:
September 10, 2004

Industry and Resources - 537

SASKATCHEWAN'S URANIUM RESOURCES PROMOTED IN LONDON
Leaders of the world's nuclear industry received a presentation on
Saskatchewan's strength and stability as a global uranium producer.

Industry and Resources Minister Eric Cline delivered the keynote address
yesterday at the 2004 Annual Symposium of the World Nuclear Association in
London. Cline shared with the 500-plus delegates the role Saskatchewan is
playing in helping fuel the global energy future, and outlined the investment
climate for energy companies that exists in the province.

In his remarks Cline noted that while the medium and longer term hold
potential for growth for the world nuclear industry, there are short-term
challenges that need to be addressed. "Uranium supply is not currently keeping
up with demand on a global basis," he said. "Over the past ten years, the rate
of increase in demand has been more than three times the rate of increase for
primary production."

Cline said that even if all mines now planned are brought into production on
schedule, this will not be sufficient to meet projected demand, and that it
will take some time for primary production to catch up.

The minister said that with 30 per cent of global uranium production,
Saskatchewan is well positioned to meet those future needs. "No matter where
you are in the world, when it comes to uranium, people know Saskatchewan. Our
province can play a major role in helping supply world energy needs."

Cline told delegates that Saskatchewan offers a stable regulatory regime,
positive investment climate and competitive tax environment for the industry,
along with a skilled workforce and quality infrastructure.

The uranium industry generates more than $540 million a year in provincial
economic activity, and a further $40 million in direct taxes and royalties. It
also accounts for 4,800 direct and indirect jobs.

Cline's presentation to the World Nuclear Association was part of the current
Team Saskatchewan investment mission to Europe.

Logged

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Educational (Naked shorting)
http://www.rgm.com/shortselling.html
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
Interesting story on "Painting the tape". Too long to post but here is the link.
http://www.rgm.com/articles/pipe2.html
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
Interesting story on "Painting the tape". Too long to post but here is the link.
http://www.rgm.com/articles/pipe2.html

http://www.rgm.com/articles/pipe1.html
Sorry.... Here is part one.

 
Posted by dwman on :
 
Here is part 3
http://www.rgm.com/articles/pipe3.html
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
JIM DUNN INKS ROCK-SOLID MARKETING PARTNER BEGINNING IN 2005
(7-14-2004) - Jim Dunn Racing has signed CMKM Diamonds, Inc., as its primary marketing partner beginning in 2005. The multi-year agreement serves notice to the competition that the new CMKX / Lucas Oil Funny Car will race to win during the entire NHRA POWERade series.

To demonstrate the strength of this new partnership, CMKM has obtained a prominent Associate-level spot on the K&N Filters / Lucas Oil Funny Car for the remainder of the 2004 season. In doing so, CMKM is proud to be associated with some of the most respected names in the automotive aftermarket industry.

Team Owner Jim Dunn stated, "We couldn't be more pleased to be making this announcement at the half-way point of the season. With CMKM coming aboard early, it allows us to build our relationship and develop a high-impact campaign for the coming year. Starting in 2005, we'll be known as the CMKX / Lucas Oil Funny Car."

CMKM founder and Chairman of the Board, Urban Casavant, is a veteran in the precious metals industry, having almost 20 years of experience. He commented, "I'm excited to be associated with Jim Dunn Racing. This is a first-class operation, and with 'Big Jim's' know-how, our team will be in the winner's circle soon. In my opinion, our first big win will equal the excitement of discovering a new minerals claim."

CMKM Diamonds, Inc., is a mining and exploration company with abundant mineral claims in central Canada. The company has over one-million acres claimed in the Saskatchewan Province of Canada. A great new alliance has been formed and all parties are ready for action! http://www.competitionplus.com/06_17_2004/newsdirt.html

 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Glad the MM's are playing today. Order filled for more at .0003. Thanks JEFF

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 14, 2004).]
 


Posted by thecwexperience on :
 
hijust1... & allstocks!

sorry for taking so long to acknowledge the message...i haven't posted for awhile and had to locate my password...there was just too much back & forth there for sometime *smile*....but anywhoo....

i also use trading direct and have the same question...the one line responses i've received from emails have ticked me off...i will be sitting down and writing them another email making it clear that this lack of professionalism is unacceptable....long story short (too late) ..i have not received ucad shares nor a eta...i was advised that they would be received when the dtc sends them...duh!!!...my 2nd email stated something like: i understand that the dtc has to first send the dividends...however...i am looking for research into an eta or a no-later-than date that these shares will appear in the account...anyway i received the same answer in a different phrase...now that i'm back in writing mode..this will be addressed ...


Now for the board..anyone w/ knowledge on this, please feel free to interject...who uses trading direct....the bbb indicates one complaint against them in 1999? ..something like that which was favorably resolved...so hopefully this is just miscommunication....until later...

quote:
Originally posted by Justhis1ce:
Hello all, does anyone know how to tell wether the UCAD divvys have been sent to the DTC for distribution? My broker (Tading Direct) said they must first be sent there before my account gets them. Any thoughts?

------------------
"One cannot counterfeit anything that does not exist"
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ucad shares will not be delivered to brokers till the pay date of the 24th. looking for them in our accounts before that date is useless as our brokers dont have them to put in our accounts. the 24th is the first date they may show up and even that is still in question as the company has not yet set a firm date. a firm date should come in the form of a pr. even the split is still a question. if you read the original pr it states further details of this dividend will be announced.looking for ucad shares in our accounts before the pay date is like looking for your pay check on monday and pay day is friday
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
posted by zeninvestor32 at Mach's IHUB board. Link below. Sugarpaw

BO RE: CMKX

There are 2 items that make comparisons to the prior 2 years not completely reliable:

1. Roger Glenn
2. Goldak/TDEM

Personally I believe Urban attempted to make CMKX legit and to address naked shorting prior to 2004 but found the road far too rocky. You cannot win that game without firepower (and even so, it's near impossible against well-heeled hedge fund opponents). IMO, the above two items changed the game. And now strategies have shifted completely. Unfortunately, they are not to everyone's liking as far as time frames are concerned. So now people are deciding how best to handle the stress including, but not limited to:

1. Doing more research
2. Venting
3. Selling
4. Waiting
5. Going on vacation

Right now, Roger has been on board for a little over 3 months. Relatively speaking, that's not a lot of time, particularly if the end game is to become fully reporting. For now, I go back and forth between 4 and 5 above. I'm tired of waiting too. Yes, there are many unanswered questions. But I see things as different today with Roger guiding Urban and with the aerial survey at hand. If others disagree, that's fine. I'm willing to cut Roger more slack than 90 days, particularly with dividends approaching. His plan may simply require a bit more time. I don't think he selected 9/24 and 10/1 as his dividend dates arbitrarily. We will see.

Z

As always, these are my personal opinions.

Hopefully nobody in here is investing anything but "fun" money that they can afford to gamble with.


 


Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Hi Everyone, Today- Wednesday 9-15-04, a webcast with UCAD's CEO- Rendal Williams will be available at the Green Baron's website. Tuesday on "Prosperity for God's People", CT will be interviewing the Baron regarding CMKX, UCAD, and the upcoming webcast.

CT is planning a "Point / Counter-Point" show next week between the Green Baron and Stock Patrol. The Green Baron has graciously accepted the invitation and we hope the Stock Patrol will do likewise.

Once we have confirmation, we will update you.

Regards,
CTGM
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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/prweb/20040914/bs_prweb/prweb157724_2

The above is a PR on Yahoo. I would love to hear StockPatrol vs. Green Baron. That sounds like Pro-Wrestling. I pick the Green Baron to win. Hopefully StockPatrol will accept the invite. -IMO-Debi
 


Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by secman:
Occums razor.... the samples sucked hence why no news. kthnx

Do you have any confirmed company information on this statement or is this your opinion?

 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Does anyone know the backgrounds of these so called stock prophets i.e. Sterling, Dr. D, Zen, etc? My hunch is that they were never even in the market before CMKX because some of the wild theories that they spin out are laughable to anyone who has even the slightest bit of experience. Sterling himself has stated that CMKX is his only holding. It would appear that a lot of folks are banking on wild theories put out by completely novice investors.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
Upside
Member posted September 14, 2004 15:08
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Does anyone know the backgrounds of these so called stock prophets i.e. Sterling, Dr. D, Zen, etc? My hunch is that they were never even in the market before CMKX because some of the wild theories that they spin out are laughable to anyone who has even the slightest bit of experience. Sterling himself has stated that CMKX is his only holding. It would appear that a lot of folks are banking on wild theories put out by completely novice investors.
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upside my guess is they come from serious drug experimentation, serious secret goverment type stuff cause not even crack can cause some of their theorys
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
my GUESS is that some of them are on a payroll.....
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Bill1352
quote:
upside my guess is they come from serious drug experimentation, serious secret goverment type stuff cause not even crack can cause some of their theorys

That's right, isn't it the old Canadian opium den that you thought they discovered?


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Does anyone know the backgrounds of these so called stock prophets i.e. Sterling, Dr. D, Zen, etc? My hunch is that they were never even in the market before CMKX because some of the wild theories that they spin out are laughable to anyone who has even the slightest bit of experience. Sterling himself has stated that CMKX is his only holding. It would appear that a lot of folks are banking on wild theories put out by completely novice investors.


Does anyone know anything about the background of any posters here? When I read anything from anyone on this stock, I read, analyze, and then choose to believe, consider or disagree. Ideas are just ideas, not gospel.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
At the risk of rousing the ire of Wallace, I have to post this:

Sept 24 may be the day or reckoning for MM's when they have to pay the UCAD divy.

Sept 24, this year, is also the Jewish Yom Kippur, the "Day of Atonement"

The name "Yom Kippur" means "Day of Atonement," and that pretty much explains what the holiday is. It is a day set aside to "afflict the soul," to atone for the sins of the past year.


Better be careful JEFF, NITE etc. LOL
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by noahltl:
quote:
Does anyone know anything about the background of any posters here? When I read anything from anyone on this stock, I read, analyze, and then choose to believe, consider or disagree. Ideas are just ideas, not gospel.

Your right to a degree, you don't know my background, I don't know yours, so on and so forth. The difference is that any ideas or theories you or I come up with pretty much stay right here and influence very few if anyone. When one of the prophets puts out a new theory however, it's all over the net in a matter of minutes. You know, Glassman just might be right. I wonder if they are on a payroll somewhere?



 


Posted by will on :
 
The theroies get wild, thats for sure Upman.
I'm just waiting the 24th for the squeeze of the century, 8/20 failed to porduce, so maybe the UCAD pay date will.
Hoping we get the share structure then too.
Hoping we get the result of overdue, and/or any core samples.
Hoping there's progress to becoming a reporting compnay.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
And what are you going to do when the 24th comes and goes with no change? A new date will be established, I'll guarantee you that.

[This message has been edited by Upside (edited September 14, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
Isn't that the pattern?
However, it has to come to a point where it either happens, or the believers admit it isn't going to happen.
I think the company has been here, kinda/sorta, once before when symbol was changed and/or CIM was set up, but nothing happened then, just the symbol change and .0001 for the longest time.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
And what are you going to do when the 24th comes and goes with no change? A new date will be established, I'll guarantee you that.

[This message has been edited by Upside (edited September 14, 2004).]



 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
And what are you going to do when the 24th comes and goes with no change? A new date will be established, I'll guarantee you that.

[This message has been edited by Upside (edited September 14, 2004).]



Sept 24 - Oct 1 are the divy dates. Those are key dates if there is a substantial NSS. However there is no date established for the very important question.....DIAMONDS ????


 


Posted by will on :
 
So, the squeeze of the century can happen between 9/24 and 10/1?
Is 10/1 the pay date for the second dividend?
Why two dates? Doesn't the accounting of the shares have to be done for the first dividend payable 9/24?

quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:

Sept 24 - Oct 1 are the divy dates. Those are key dates if there is a substantial NSS. However there is no date established for the very important question.....DIAMONDS ????



 


Posted by AoneFischer on :
 
well in reguards to sterling from my understanding he has 3 billion shares... so he has invested a lot into this stock
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
So, the squeeze of the century can happen between 9/24 and 10/1?
Is 10/1 the pay date for the second dividend?
Why two dates? Doesn't the accounting of the shares have to be done for the first dividend payable 9/24?



Theoretically, the MM's could "create" shares of UCAD, just like they did CMKX, and place them in our account. (Not saying that would be very wise, just possible) So, it is not a "drop-dead" date for cover.

However, they cannot create shares of CIM to put in our accounts, because there are none on the market, since it is a privately held company.

That's my understanding of the situation, so it is definitely IMO


 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
The theroies get wild, thats for sure Upman.
I'm just waiting the 24th for the squeeze of the century, 8/20 failed to porduce, so maybe the UCAD pay date will.
Hoping we get the share structure then too.
Hoping we get the result of overdue, and/or any core samples.
Hoping there's progress to becoming a reporting compnay.


Will you are hoping for too much lol

 


Posted by Upside on :
 
How can they "create" shares of a restricted stock?
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by me:
quote:
How can they "create" shares of a restricted stock?

You know what, don't answer that. They can't. That's the simple easy answer. I'm sure there's a theory out there that explains how it could be done but it's nothing but bunk. When the squeeze doesn't occur by the UCAD payout, there will be a new theory about why it might not occur with the CIM payout as well and it's going to be the same thing, bunk.
 


Posted by will on :
 
First Wizzaed:
Yes I am hoping for alot. Aren't these the things that will make this long awaited showdown happen? Are these not the things we are told to expect by the longs/believers?
Now Upside & noah:
Did I not read bill posts saying that the UCAD shares cannot be put in our accounts because the are restricted? Did I not read that he confirmed that fact several times with his brokerage?
Are you telling me that the information he inquired on and received an answer to is not accurate?

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
How can they "create" shares of a restricted stock?


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Will,
Read my follow up to my own post. You're right.
 
Posted by will on :
 
I know, Upman. I was using your previous post to reply on. bill's posts just support what you had said. I think he was told the UCAD shares have an R or are readily distiguishable from electronic creations. I don't recall the the exact words, but what he explained pretty much put the MM's in a chackmate situation. Therefore, my question regarding the accounting of shares by 9/24, the pay date of the UCAD has to be accurate. The shorts will be exposed, there will be NO wiggle room left, and no acceptable explantion other than the short squeeze of the century, didn't and isn't going to happen.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Will,
Read my follow up to my own post. You're right.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Will,
No acceptable explanation left in whos eyes?
 
Posted by will on :
 
In any reasonable persons eyes, I would imagine. The chess game will be over at that point, it isn't check, it's checkmate. I accepted 8/20 as the check. Now the 9/24 date just has to be checkmate.
I imagine that knight in the old Monty Python film, where he gets his arms. legs, head chopped off, and is still, saying, come I'll fight ya, might be the only holdout.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Will,
No acceptable explanation left in whos eyes?


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Ohhhh, I don't know about that. I'll bet you that B.C. will come up with a good explanation.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Who is B.C. I know Sterling, I know Zen, I know Dr D., I know Marvin, I know U.C., I know R.G., but who is B.C.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Ohhhh, I don't know about that. I'll bet you that B.C. will come up with a good explanation.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
What are you, ignorant? Think for a minute.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Got ya! I'm getting old and thick, my friend. This "saga" is aging me.
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
What are you, ignorant? Think for a minute.


 


Posted by will on :
 
So...what you're telling me is:

That even in the face of a proven fact, ironclad logic, indisputable evidence, readily apparent proof, there will be people who refuse to admit that the squeeze of the centruy will not happen.

Then I have to ask you this:

What will it take for those who believe the squeeze of the century is still alive to admit it is over? Will it take all the claims being sweetherted away, and a PR apologizing to shareholders that UC did all he could, but has to padlock the door and move on, because it just didn't work? Will it take the demise of CMKX to convince those that unreasonably hold to these beliefs?
I want the squeeze, I want the PPS to go soaring. If this is checkmate, which it seems to be, the day of rekoning,(9/24), I can want all I want and have nothing. Then I imagine it will be, "we don't know what's in those samples". It could be months and months before the results are announced, but then it will be, "well, it's part of the plan, they don't want DeBeers to know what they have".
Your right it will be bunk, but it will go on until the padlock is on the door.
 


Posted by will on :
 
Upman, you have mail
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Will:
quote:
So...what you're telling me is:
That even in the face of a proven fact, ironclad logic, indisputable evidence, readily apparent proof, there will be people who refuse to admit that the squeeze of the centruy will not happen.

Yes

quote:
Then I have to ask you this:

What will it take for those who believe the squeeze of the century is still alive to admit it is over? Will it take all the claims being sweetherted away, and a PR apologizing to shareholders that UC did all he could, but has to padlock the door and move on, because it just didn't work? Will it take the demise of CMKX to convince those that unreasonably hold to these beliefs?
I want the squeeze, I want the PPS to go soaring. If this is checkmate, which it seems to be, the day of rekoning,(9/24), I can want all I want and have nothing. Then I imagine it will be, "we don't know what's in those samples". It could be months and months before the results are announced, but then it will be, "well, it's part of the plan, they don't want DeBeers to know what they have".
Your right it will be bunk, but it will go on until the padlock is on the door.



Right



 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Got ya! I'm getting old and thick, my friend. This "saga" is aging me.

So your not saying who?
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by highwaychild:
quote:
So your not saying who?

Who what?


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
i want to know who B C is too...LOL

i am still trying to find a stock worthy of all this energy....
when i do i will alert you...
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Hey Will, you wanna field this one?
 
Posted by will on :
 
It just maybe too offensive to discuss openly here. I'm afraid it will have to remain between Upman and I.
I guess you're thinking this makes us even, Upman. You put me on the spot. You are the perpertator on this one, and I get caught holding the stink bag. LOL
Well, we AIN'T even, I owe you 5. LOL

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Hey Will, you wanna field this one?


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
That's cool.I understand.
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:

I am still trying to find a stock worthy of all this energy....
when I do I will alert you...


Good luck,I don't think you'll find one.

P.S.I had a little luck with one of your picks.BIMR.Didn't want to tell ya,but thanks.

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited September 14, 2004).]
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by will:
quote:
It just maybe too offensive to discuss openly here. I'm afraid it will have to remain between Upman and I.
I guess you're thinking this makes us even, Upman. You put me on the spot. You are the perpertator on this one, and I get caught holding the stink bag. LOL
Well, we AIN'T even, I owe you 5. LOL

Wimp.
 


Posted by secman on :
 
Ouch it bounced from .0002 to .0003 all day and never touched .0004 lol.. STOCK PLAY OF A LIFE TIME MY ASS with 800 a/s this pig isn't going anywhere down even with paid pumpers sterling, Green barron , melvin etc pumping with lies and the most bull**** theories I have ever heard. Sterling is NOT a stock trader ... CMKX is the only investment he has... yet he comes up with the most bull**** theories I ever heard and the goofy hick dopes that goes to the drag races buy it all..


AHAHAHHAH LOL HEHHHEHEHEHEHEEH

Yeah we Trust Urban to bad he released a PR on carolyn and forgot to include the sample sizes... OOoooPS!! To bad he raised the A/s to 800 billion and forgot to PR that .... WOOOPPS! To bad he's giving a piece of junk KIA at the shareholders party when supposedly by all the pumpers the squeeze will happen and PPS will shoot up.... Ahahahaah To bad he's involved with tons of shell companies in Nevada with addresses from abandoned offices... WHOOOPS.. Urban must be thinking DAM those internet nerds will find anything!!!!
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by secman:
[B]


AHAHAHHAH LOL HEHHHEHEHEHEHEEH

B]


CMKX has/will paid dividends.

1 : an individual share of something distributed: as a : a share in a pro rata distribution (as of profits) to stockholders b : a share of surplus allocated to a policyholder in a participating insurance policy
2 a : a resultant return or reward b : BONUS
3 a : a number to be divided b : a sum or fund to be divided and distributed

 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Oh well,I'm gone.Kindof felling hung out to dry tonight anyway.
 
Posted by will on :
 
WHIMP ?
I don't think byrd would even go that far, Upman.
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by will:
Wimp.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
I don't know about that. I'll bet he would.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Yea, yea, yea! You just want me drummed off of the thread.
Check the tape on my mouth :X
and........if byrd would, he's crazier than I think he is, but I guess under the right circumstances he would shout it out. On the other hand, I still have the sense I was born with.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
I don't know about that. I'll bet he would.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Still speculating, guys?

None of those dates will do anything for shareholders of CMKX. Look at where it is heading right now! Already, holders have been told to hold on, big things will happen...and that's just within the past two days.

There is nothing to explain the insistence that CMKX has any value whatsoever.

The market price? No! That's just hype, dreams, greed, pump and hope.

Assets? No! Claim assets are 100% unproven, and, when it comes to mining the odds are against it. Cash or funds are just being washed back and forth from one company to the other. Equipment is practically non-existent. Potential is just a word without proven value. Dividends have been proven to be worthless in the past or have been withdrawn.

Earnings? Never have been any positive earnings whatsoever. Maybe they've made a couple of dollars on CMKX funny car "T" shirts, but nothing else. Selling claims as previously stated is nothing more than feeding from one hand to the other and back again.

Conflicts of interest and non-arm's length transactions? Typical of an unethical operation and they are commonplace.

Financial reporting? Non-existent. In fact, just the opposite by refusing to file with the SEC.

Glenn? Guaranteed that in three months time the company could have been brought into a reporting mode and filing with the SEC. Where was he when the company refused, forgot or whatever to disclose the increase of 300 billion authorized shares? Guaranteed he is there to keep things legal so they can get away with what they have been doing with out criminal prosecution. How does that protect the shareholders?

Issued and Outstanding Shares? Think about it! If they were able to increase the authorized shares by 300 billion, that means that there had to be someone individually or as a combined group controlling the outstanding shares at the time it was passed.
That probably means UC and or the family combined. Ten to one the present issued and outstanding is more that the 480-483 billion shares talked about...probably well over 500 billion right now.

This stock is unlikely to go anywhere at all except into the dumper. I suggested you sell many times before and the latest was at
.0004. Now it is flirting with .0002 and the next step is .0001. Then what will you do? Continue to hold and say, "Well, it can't go down any more!" Problem with that is there is one more step and that is BK and not any trading at all.

What a pity so many have been sucked into this stock! What a pity more will buy because someone is telling them it is a great stock, that it has potential, to wait until ???? (doomsday, I guess), that wealth is right around the corner, that they are confident, that they trust UC, Glenn and others involved, that UC and Glenn have a plan. Sure, and you lose!

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 14, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
Do you, can you, refute anything or everything he has said. Can you disprove his points. Most of what he said looked factual to me.
No one might like the the points he made, but are they true or false?

[This message has been edited by Allstocks (edited September 14, 2004).]
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Forget it, Will! There have been worse!

Good night.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 14, 2004).]
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
WHO IS B. C.???? LOL
 
Posted by will on :
 
Sure there has been worse and there will be more too.

Where are the "noble" ones here?

You know, we don't even have to go there.

Someone please pull this apart and show everyone where it is lacking or wrong.

"Assets? No! Claim assets are 100% unproven, and, when it comes to mining the odds are against it. Cash or funds are just being washed back and forth from one company to the other. Equipment is practically non-existent. Potential is just a word without proven value. Dividends have been proven to be worthless in the past or have been withdrawn."

Is that statement all false, all true, partly false, partly true? Pull it apart, talk about it. Disprove it. Don't attack the poster. If you can't win the arguement you call the other guy a communist? Go get em tailgunner joes.
 


Posted by Grasshopper on :
 
Man, I feel like I'm reading a spin-off of "Dumb & Dumber". Sorry, but even Carrey and Daniels were more clever than the two of you!

Try this guys:
PROVE that CMKM has no claim assets!
PROVE that any claims they have are worthless!
PROVE that RG is just there to help UC "get away" with screwing the shareholders!
PROVE that every other company involved with CMKM is also out to scam us!
Please, PROVE ANYTHING that you guys continually spew forth. Don't back that weak stuff up by saying "betcha can't disprove it". That's why this is called SPECULATION! I don't need a damn guarantee to put money on a stock trading at this level.

I'll let "Little Willie" and "Dead Man Walking" get back to work. They're going to have to be pretty busy if they want to shake loose many more shares.

Well, night y'all. I'll check back in a few days......


 


Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Go CMKX all the way to the top. Long and Holding here 8 mil strong.

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"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"

[This message has been edited by Doctoall (edited September 14, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
LOL. Shake shares loose? I really don't care if you keep em until they're dust. I want this POS to go too.
My only point is, it's so much easier for ya'll to do your "dumb and dumber" routine then it is for you to post facts.
The company has given dividends before, and the value? Nothing. That's a fact. Anymore you see there, oh sage?
Sure it's specualtion, and it is looking weak. The other point you miss is that belivers were tauting buying this stock even at the .0011 level. at .0007, at .0005, and another fact, it did flirt with .0002 today, closed down at .0003.
I laugh at your "dumb and dumber" when I see alot of people that can't understand that maybe they haven't been outright lied to, but they sure haven't been told all the facts from the company. Of course they choose to excuse that as being part of a "Master Plan".
I would like you to do me a favor, oh sage, grasshopper. If the NSS squeeze of the century doesn't ocurr 9/24/04, will you be the first to explain it to me why it didn't. If it happens I will apologize to every believer here, and say I was wrong. Now keep in mind it has to ocurr 9/24, the UCAD didvidend is restricted, and all shares have to be accounted for, so it is checkmate. Let's see what you have to say in 10 days.

quote:
Originally posted by Grasshopper:
Man, I feel like I'm reading a spin-off of "Dumb & Dumber". Sorry, but even Carrey and Daniels were more clever than the two of you!

Try this guys:
PROVE that CMKM has no claim assets!
PROVE that any claims they have are worthless!
PROVE that RG is just there to help UC "get away" with screwing the shareholders!
PROVE that every other company involved with CMKM is also out to scam us!
Please, PROVE ANYTHING that you guys continually spew forth. Don't back that weak stuff up by saying "betcha can't disprove it". That's why this is called SPECULATION! I don't need a damn guarantee to put money on a stock trading at this level.

I'll let "Little Willie" and "Dead Man Walking" get back to work. They're going to have to be pretty busy if they want to shake loose many more shares.

Well, night y'all. I'll check back in a few days......



 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Still speculating, guys?


A: Yes that't the nature of pinks.

None of those dates will do anything for shareholders of CMKX. Look at where it is heading right now! Already, holders have been told to hold on, big things will happen...and that's just within the past two days.


A: We dont't know if those dates will do anything or not until they arrive, and neither do you. Holding on is absolutely the right thing to do. That's my opinion and it's based on more fact than you have ever delivered here.

There is nothing to explain the insistence that CMKX has any value whatsoever.

A: 1.9 million acres of claims in what has been billed as the largest diamond mining find in the world.

The market price? No! That's just hype, dreams, greed, pump and hope.


A: Once again, only time will tell.

Assets? No! Claim assets are 100% unproven, and, when it comes to mining the odds are against it. Cash or funds are just being washed back and forth from one company to the other. Equipment is practically non-existent. Potential is just a word without proven value. Dividends have been proven to be worthless in the past or have been withdrawn.

A: The proof of the claims, worth, funds moving to shell corp's. All can be answered with D Roger Glemm. He wouldn't be with us without value. Or without a plan to take us private and deal with NSS.

Earnings? Never have been any positive earnings whatsoever. Maybe they've made a couple of dollars on CMKX funny car "T" shirts, but nothing else. Selling claims as previously stated is nothing more than feeding from one hand to the other and back again.


A: The fact they haven't told you the earnings doesn't mean there haven't been any. Do you understand the nature of "exploration"? There aren't any diamond earnings until diamonds are mined. That doesn't mean we haven't had earnings. Have you noticed the millions of dollars coming in from JV's and institutional investors?
Do you know if we have sold off mineral rights to other minerals besides diamonds. This area is rich in plutonium, gold and other precious minerals. Plutonium is too difficult to handle for most mining operations. And we are looking for diamonds.

Conflicts of interest and non-arm's length transactions? Typical of an unethical operation and they are commonplace.


A: You cite CMKX for illegal operations? Do you have proof to back that up?

Financial reporting? Non-existent. In fact, just the opposite by refusing to file with the SEC.


A: Pinks don't have to file. This stock has been a pink as long as most investors can remember. Yet we bought it. Can any stockholder complain about a pink not reporting. If reporting, would we be tipping off the competition to what we had? You can't apply 'big board' rules to pinks.


Glenn? Guaranteed that in three months time the company could have been brought into a reporting mode and filing with the SEC. Where was he when the company refused, forgot or whatever to disclose the increase of 300 billion authorized shares? Guaranteed he is there to keep things legal so they can get away with what they have been doing with out criminal prosecution. How does that protect the shareholders?

A: How can you guarantee how long it would take an attorney to bring this company into compliance? You don't know his strategy or the obstacles he has to face before completion. And once again you are accusing Urban of doing things that would result in criminal prosecution? Do you have proof or just engaging in some more criminal libel?

Issued and Outstanding Shares? Think about it! If they were able to increase the authorized shares by 300 billion, that means that there had to be someone individually or as a combined group controlling the outstanding shares at the time it was passed.
That probably means UC and or the family combined. Ten to one the present issued and outstanding is more that the 480-483 billion shares talked about...probably well over 500 billion right now.


A: You refute yourself here. The AS was 500 billion on August 18, when it was increased. That means UC and family / insiders had to control 251 billion or so. Leaving a real OS of 249 billion, if all he had was 51%. There is no evidence that any of that 300 billion has been issued. It was probably done to complete a deal made in the Sask meeting the weekend before.

This stock is unlikely to go anywhere at all except into the dumper. I suggested you sell many times before and the latest was at
.0004. Now it is flirting with .0002 and the next step is .0001. Then what will you do? Continue to hold and say, "Well, it can't go down any more!" Problem with that is there is one more step and that is BK and not any trading at all.

A: It has flirted with everything between .0001 and .0011 in last few months. If it goes to .0001 then those of us who believe in this stock will load up with more.

What a pity so many have been sucked into this stock! What a pity more will buy because someone is telling them it is a great stock, that it has potential, to wait until ???? (doomsday, I guess), that wealth is right around the corner, that they are confident, that they trust UC, Glenn and others involved, that UC and Glenn have a plan. Sure, and you lose!


A: Well it can never be said that Wallace wasn't a sympathetic humanitarian at heart.
Trying to save the world and no one listens.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 14, 2004).]


Is it just my imagination or do all of the bashers always show up all at once. Do you guys PM each other and say "O.K. pps is down, or bad news, let's all get over to Allstocks and see if we can scare a few more weak hands into selling."?


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Will said:

"If the NSS squeeze of the century doesn't ocurr 9/24/04, will you be the first to explain it to me why it didn't. If it happens I will apologize to every believer here, and say I was wrong. Now keep in mind it has to ocurr 9/24, the UCAD didvidend is restricted, and all shares have to be accounted for, so it is checkmate. Let's see what you have to say in 10 days."


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Will, come on, do we look that easy? The Sept 24 date was never PR'd, it's only customary for a dividend to be issued 30 days after the x-date. It is only speculative. We don't have a pay date for any but GEMM. So don't try to trap us into a hard date that you can say: "See, I told ya so."

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 15, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Give me patience. And give it to me NOW!!!
 
Posted by will on :
 
Well, noah, you furnished answers, thanks. Many of them do include faith in the management, and a "plan", and time will tell, but at least you took three swings at it.
..and please, not everyone who sees things differently than you is a basher. I choose to be cautious, and not have faith in the management. From the beginning I found the idea of a "master plan" just too easy to hide behind. I would really prefer forthright, honest, complete, information as opposed to a test of faith.
Believe it or not, I am on the same side you are. I want my little investment of $300 to grow astronomically, just that
I have to be honest with myself, and I'm sure you feel you are being honest with yourself too.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Ok naoh, I am only going with everyone else is specualting. Would it be fair to say the pay date of the UCAD dividend should see the squeeze of the century? I think you even alluded to the CIM dividend the one that really counts because it is a private company. Would it be fair to use that pay date as the date we should see the squeeze of the century? I say if UCAD is restricted than its pay date should trigger the sqeeze. The CIM dividend has a record date of 8/31? So, the pay date should be 10/1? That is customarily. If they don't ocurr 30 days after, what would be a good grace period for the company to get their ducks in a row? 60 days after record date? 90 days? 180 days? When will it begin to errode your fsith in CMKX, a year after record date?
I wasn't trying to trap you into a "I told you so position", grasshopper was being a wiseass, and just goes along with the long crowd, that was for him.
Tell me when it becomes tiring, and you begin to doubt the intentions of the management, at what date?

quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
Will said:

"If the NSS squeeze of the century doesn't ocurr 9/24/04, will you be the first to explain it to me why it didn't. If it happens I will apologize to every believer here, and say I was wrong. Now keep in mind it has to ocurr 9/24, the UCAD didvidend is restricted, and all shares have to be accounted for, so it is checkmate. Let's see what you have to say in 10 days."


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Will, come on, do we look that easy? The Sept 24 date was never PR'd, it's only customary for a dividend to be issued 30 days after the x-date. It is only speculative. We don't have a pay date for any but GEMM. So don't try to trap us into a hard date that you can say: "See, I told ya so."


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Posted by Upside on :
 
And the problem with the GEMM shares being distributed on 10/1 is that they are not restricted, at least to the best of my knowledge. So the evildoers could just buy enough of them on the open market to cover their short position. And on and on it goes.
 
Posted by lanebro on :
 
Please don't let this be your reason for believing in CMKX. You really don't know anything about car racing sponsorships. Trust me. It's all about "show me the money." That's all there is.
Diamonds. Hmmm. Good luck folks.
Okay now its "-ium". Hmm.
Did I tell y'all I saw 1000's of CMKXtreme packets (hero card and propoganda handouts) in the trash at Indy? 10,00 shirts given away? My grandaughter was given 50! All at once.
At the "party"; 100 people showed, maybe. My Motorhome (coach, for those in the know) 200 feet away, for days.
No UC, maybe a Vinny, know him? Never saw that other dude either, UCADman, and I see ALL. Not to say he wasn't there, just wasn't very apparent.

quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
JIM DUNN INKS ROCK-SOLID MARKETING PARTNER BEGINNING IN 2005
(7-14-2004) - Jim Dunn Racing has signed CMKM Diamonds, Inc., as its primary marketing partner beginning in 2005. The multi-year agreement serves notice to the competition that the new CMKX / Lucas Oil Funny Car will race to win during the entire NHRA POWERade series.

To demonstrate the strength of this new partnership, CMKM has obtained a prominent Associate-level spot on the K&N Filters / Lucas Oil Funny Car for the remainder of the 2004 season. In doing so, CMKM is proud to be associated with some of the most respected names in the automotive aftermarket industry.

Team Owner Jim Dunn stated, "We couldn't be more pleased to be making this announcement at the half-way point of the season. With CMKM coming aboard early, it allows us to build our relationship and develop a high-impact campaign for the coming year. Starting in 2005, we'll be known as the CMKX / Lucas Oil Funny Car."

CMKM founder and Chairman of the Board, Urban Casavant, is a veteran in the precious metals industry, having almost 20 years of experience. He commented, "I'm excited to be associated with Jim Dunn Racing. This is a first-class operation, and with 'Big Jim's' know-how, our team will be in the winner's circle soon. In my opinion, our first big win will equal the excitement of discovering a new minerals claim."

CMKM Diamonds, Inc., is a mining and exploration company with abundant mineral claims in central Canada. The company has over one-million acres claimed in the Saskatchewan Province of Canada. A great new alliance has been formed and all parties are ready for action! http://www.competitionplus.com/06_17_2004/newsdirt.html



 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Well, noah, you furnished answers, thanks. Many of them do include faith in the management, and a "plan", and time will tell, but at least you took three swings at it.
..and please, not everyone who sees things differently than you is a basher. I choose to be cautious, and not have faith in the management. From the beginning I found the idea of a "master plan" just too easy to hide behind. I would really prefer forthright, honest, complete, information as opposed to a test of faith.
Believe it or not, I am on the same side you are. I want my little investment of $300 to grow astronomically, just that
I have to be honest with myself, and I'm sure you feel you are being honest with yourself too.

Will, you have undoubtedly done your DD, so I won't belabor that on this thread. But knowing the history of this company, the naked shorting of the past, if you don't believe in it currently going on. The possibility that powerful competitors would try to wrest control from him. The complexitites of putting together exploration, drilling and mining operations of this scale. Would these not require a "master plan" to bring it all together?

Woould such a plan not require an attorney of the caliber of RG?

And to paraphrase Forrest Gump: "Bashing is as bashing does."


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Will, if you are looking for a point at which I would sell CMKX, what is a reasonable time to wait, etc., I would have to sum it up, as when I know we don't have a diamond mine. That is why I bought in back in early February. I didn't buy in because of any "squeeze" on the MM's. That all came later and could be a big bonus. I didn't buy in because of dividends, but that could also be a very sweet bonus. So timelines and deadlines don't have any final bearing on my decision to stay with this stock. It's only DIAMONDS. Everything else is only an interesting sideline. Goldak surveys, hundreds of anomalies, unannounced core samplings. ongoing drilling, and Roger Glenn at the legal helm. Those are the things that really interest me.
 
Posted by will on :
 
DD my butt. There is very little real information here. I bought this just in case. I was new and paper trading when all the hoopla of the .0001 QBID was going on, and vowed not to spend a dime without fulfilling my paper trading commitment to myself. Needless to say I missed QBID it was at .003 and I figured 3000% was a pretty impressive gain, and missed it all together. Well, rather than kicking myself again, I bought CMKX.
I'm not here to save anyone. I'm selfish, I don't care if anyone makes it, sells it, eats it, does whatever they like with it. Maybe I like to argue, with you, with myself, with anyone else?
I just find it difficult to believe that people can have that much faith in this management. It's been pointed out that the company has been here, or close to here before, and then nothing, flatline .0001. It does have history. It does have a pattern of being ambiguous with it's information. I just like to see a change in pattern.
I know alot of folks hang their hat on R.G., could it not be possible he is there to keep CMKX between the white lines while they sell off claims and leave a worthless shell? Is that not a possibility?
I just think until they change their behavior as a company it would be prudent to error on the side of caution. When they play fair and announce the share structure, sample results, progress of becoming a reporting company, then I'll believe more.
God! Look at past Pr's, the issue of O/S shares was to be resolved with the change of T/A's, we forget these things. Listen to the rumors salted by Melvin, Sept 5 was the big weekend. I know, Urban got called to the sight only to stoke more rumors. No PR's worthy of the rumors.
You don't see a pattern here? You really don't?

quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
Will, you have undoubtedly done your DD, so I won't belabor that on this thread. But knowing the history of this company, the naked shorting of the past, if you don't believe in it currently going on. The possibility that powerful competitors would try to wrest control from him. The complexitites of putting together exploration, drilling and mining operations of this scale. Would these not require a "master plan" to bring it all together?

Woould such a plan not require an attorney of the caliber of RG?

And to paraphrase Forrest Gump: "Bashing is as bashing does."


[This message has been edited by will (edited September 15, 2004).]
 


Posted by lanebro on :
 
LOL, Maybe there's some link here:
A funny page copy:

A man walking by a house sees a sign that reads:
"Talking Dog for Sale."
He walks up to the door, rings the bell and asks about the dog. The owner tells him the dog is in the backyard.
The guy goes into the backyard and sees a black mutt just sitting there.
"You talk?" he asks.
"Sure do." the dog replies.
"So, what's your story?"
The dog looks up and says, "Well, I discovered my gift of talking pretty young and I wanted to help the government, so I told the CIA about my gift, and in no time they had me jetting from country to
country, sitting in rooms with spies and world leaders, because no one figured a dog would be eavesdropping.
I was one of their most valuable spies eight years running."
"The jetting around really tired me out, and I knew I wasn't getting any younger and I wanted to settle down. So I signed up for a job at the airport to do some undercover security work, mostly wandering near
suspicious characters and listening in. I uncovered some incredible dealings there and was awarded a batch of medals."
"Had a wife, a mess of puppies, and now I'm just retired."
The guy is amazed. He goes back in and asks the owner what he wants for the dog.
The owner says, "Ten dollars."
The guy says, "This dog is amazing. Why on earth are you selling him so cheap?"
"Cause he's a liar. He didn't do any of that ****."

Hmmm
 


Posted by thecwexperience76 on :
 
thanks bill that puts my mind at ease...i thought everyone else was getting their shares except for me *smile*...btw i am now under thecwexperience76 instead of thecwexperience...i am having such a time w/ my password and email address section...hopefully i can get help w/ my old name which has a little tenure....

quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
ucad shares will not be delivered to brokers till the pay date of the 24th. looking for them in our accounts before that date is useless as our brokers dont have them to put in our accounts. the 24th is the first date they may show up and even that is still in question as the company has not yet set a firm date. a firm date should come in the form of a pr. even the split is still a question. if you read the original pr it states further details of this dividend will be announced.looking for ucad shares in our accounts before the pay date is like looking for your pay check on monday and pay day is friday


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Everyones screaming for facts about this company, I've got a few.

Fact: On October 3, 2003 shareholders of record received a dividend of CMI stock which was untradeable. On December 8, 2003 they said CMI would be a publicly traded company within two weeks. It never happened. On December 19, 2003 they said the CMI shares would be exchanged on January 15, 2004, 1 for 1 with Mirador Corp., symbol MRDR. That never happened. On June 13, 2004, they abandoned the MRDR exchange and it has not been addressed since.

Fact: We know of three dividends currently being paid out, UCAD, CIM, and GEMM. UCAD shares will be restricted for an unknown period of time, CIM is not tradeable, GEMM closed today at .038. If the o/s of CMKx is only 400 billion and GEMM is around the same price on the distribution date, for every million shares you hold, you will receive approx. 9 dollars worth of stock. Outside of GEMM, the other dividends are worthless as of right now.

Fact: CMKX's land claims do not appear on any Government published claim map. The only place you will see their name is on the maps printed and published by CMKX for their own promotional purposes.

Fact: The company released a p/r on June 10th 2004 stating the Carolyn pipe was found to be diamondiferous. This was at minimum a misleading p/r designed to cause hype. To date they have not released the results from the other half of the core samples.

Fact: the outstanding share count of this company is a minimum of 400 billion, a number which their spokesperson Melvin flatly denied in June of this year.


Anything other than this is pure speculation including naked shorts, Roger Glenns role, the airborne survey, anomoly count, additional core sample results, current drilling progress, etc.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Will said:

"I know alot of folks hang their hat on R.G., could it not be possible he is there to keep CMKX between the white lines while they sell off claims and leave a worthless shell? Is that not a possibility?"

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Not just a possibility, I think that you have come incredibly close to the truth with that statement. I believe that eventually we will all be backed into CIM, SGGM or one of the "shells" and after we have all been moved, with our new shares, and along with the "assets", CMKX would be left as a shell. That would definitely take someone with RG's expertise to keep the company "between the white lines".

I agree with everyone who thinks we should be informed of what is going on. But that information will not come until the time is right. It doesn't matter how impatient any of us are, RG will not allow any announcements until the right time. When will Microsoft announce to their shareholders what their researchers are creating in the labs? When will Disney announce their next acquisition to shareholders? Do you show your poker hand right after the ante?

 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by noahltl:
quote:
When will Microsoft announce to their shareholders what their researchers are creating in the labs?

Well, with the X-Box it was about a year before it came out, the demo of their directx drivers were being shown at shows well in advance of implementation, Windows 95 had a coming out party planned a year in advance, Windows XP was being talked about in the late 90's, need more?
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by noahltl:
quote:
When will Disney announce their next acquisition to shareholders?

The only one I remember there was the Disney/Pixar fiasco a number of years ago. It failed but the shareholders knew about it as it was happening, not after the fact.
 


Posted by lanebro on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Everyones screaming for facts about this company, I've got a few.

{Lanebro's chosen paragraph}:
Fact: CMKX's land claims do not appear on any Government published claim map. The only place you will see their name is on the maps printed and published by CMKX for their own promotional purposes.


I have to laugh here; last weekend I saw what appearred to be UC, et al, owning most of the Sask area land claims in Canada, on the reverse side of Jim Dunn's hero card! Seemingly covered same mass as US (at a glance) LOL.
Sorry, I tossed it into the trash, like most NHRA fans did. I'll keep the next one I take, in Reading, PA....

In all seriousness though,, I sure hope our/ my drag racing does not suffer because of this ****.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by noahltl:
Well, with the X-Box it was about a year before it came out, the demo of their directx drivers were being shown at shows well in advance of implementation, Windows 95 had a coming out party planned a year in advance, Windows XP was being talked about in the late 90's, need more?


I'm betting they didn't release it until the copyright / patents were filed. That's what RG is doing now, getting all the paperwork in order before any annoucnements are made.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
It's been fun guys, but it's late in Indiana. We'll pick it up tomorrow if you want.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by noahltl:
quote:
I'm betting they didn't release it until the copyright / patents were filed. That's what RG is doing now, getting all the paperwork in order before any annoucnements are made.

Could be, no way of knowing after the fact.

 


Posted by trgfunds on :
 
FWIW, it seems as if everyone who has a lowtrades account has gotten their UCAD dividends. I have them showing up deposited and moved to location 1R restricted on my statement and confirmed this with them over the phone. payout ratio was .0000155/share

[This message has been edited by trgfunds (edited September 15, 2004).]
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well i'm glad everyone in here is so happy...lol... i'm also glad to see someone else can understand that the restricted part of ucad means that it has to be covered by then...mm's can not buy restricted shares of anything, they can only come from the T/A no place else so if they intend to cover it will be in the next 9 days if that doesn't happen then they are not going to cover period. and if the cim numbers are right on OTC BB then you can forget any cover as they sold twice the a/s but again that is not possible because of the amount of shares sold per day it would take to get to 1.6 trillion. my guess is the real & naked shares together came out around 400 billion probably the 483 billion we first had for ucad split the 300 billion UC added was the cover. it gave him control of the company back & it gave the folks holding naked shares real shares. the mm's probably said forget it we aren't covering. the numbers on the final CIM split will tell
 
Posted by lanebro on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by secman:
[B]Ouch it bounced from .0002 to .0003 all day and never touched .0004 lol.. STOCK PLAY OF A LIFE TIME MY ASS with 800 a/s this pig isn't going anywhere down even with paid pumpers sterling, Green barron , melvin etc pumping with lies and the most bull**** theories I have ever heard. Sterling is NOT a stock trader ... CMKX is the only investment he has... yet he comes up with the most bull**** theories I ever heard and the goofy hick dopes that goes to the drag races buy it all..[B][QUOTE]


Excuse me SECMAN, but it appears us HICKS have already figured out what most can't accept. Remember the trash can at Indy? There won't be any legit drag racers nor fans at the party in Vegas- we have better things to do that weekend, like RACING.
Oh, I did see some of those free CMK t-shirts being worn at INDY- on the guys that pumped out the waste tanks on my coach!


 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
I you guys really think that things can repeat itself in history you are dreaming - CMKX is not MS and is not Coca Cola and is not Qbid or anything else - these are all different scenarios. CMKX = CMKX with unknown future at this point unless diamonds are found or else.

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'Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much.' - Helen Keller
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
Couple of things on the air:

"Today's interview will be with the "Green Baron" regarding CMKX and UCAD - Canadian Minerals Inc. A webcast with UCAD's CEO - Rendal Williams will be available Wednesday morning at http://thegreenbaron.com .

The Green Baron has also graciously accepted an invitation to do a POINT/COUNTERPOINT style interview next Tuesday with the founder of StockPatrol.com, Hartley Bernstein. At the time of this release, we are awaiting a response from Mr. Bernstein. It is one of CT's greatest desires that investors be fully informed before making any investment decision.

Callers wishing to express their opinion on CMKX or other issues, can reach CT live in the studio at 623-936-4230."
http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2004/9/emw157724.htm

 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:

I know alot of folks hang their hat on R.G., could it not be possible he is there to keep CMKX between the white lines while they sell off claims and leave a worthless shell? Is that not a possibility?]

Just as long as they keep hooking us up with pieces of the other companies as a going away present, I'm OK with that.


 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Regarding the theory that Mr. Glenn is here just to keep the next Enron out of jail, I decided to email vkoulouris@EdwardsAngell. com this morning. I'll post the reply, if any.

Good morning

My name is xxxxx. I am a loyal shareholder of CMKM Diamond Inc. I am a regular poster on the Allstocks.com message board.

As you can imagine, your man, D. Roger Glenn's name comes up frequently on the board. Now, some see CMKX as the "stock play of a lifetime," while others see it as the "scam of a lifetime." Either way, the reputation of Mr. Glenn and your company is now inextricably linked.

Please be aware that a poster on Allstocks.com, with the user name, Wallace#1, in a post dated September 14, 2004 22:18, brought the following accusation to the board:

"Glenn? Guaranteed that in three months time the company could have been brought into a reporting mode and filing with the SEC. Where was he when the company refused, forgot or whatever to disclose the increase of 300 billion authorized shares? Guaranteed he is there to keep things legal so they can get away with what they have been doing with out criminal prosecution. How does that protect the shareholders? "
http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/008861-21.html

How do you respond?

Thank you.

Sincerely,
 


Posted by pharmdman on :
 
Nice work Winsum! I can't wait to see the response.
 
Posted by cool1sh on :
 
Thanks Winsum.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Good idea Winsum. As I said in that statement, it is guaranteed that it would not take more than 3 mos. to get CMKX in a reporting mode. Further, it is guaranteed that any lawyer retained by any company is there to keep activities within the bounds of legalities. Wish you had asked them why they settled on that litigation re the trucking company where the question was a violation of their fiduciary responsibility.

PS: By the way, my point about the release was that I think he should have DEMANDED they release the 300 billion in authorized shares rather than their saying nothing and having it come out by chance which gave others an opportunity to make trading decisions which you or I may not have been privy to.

One more thing. Why didn't you ask them to provide you with a list of what he has accomplished since being retained by CMKX in the sense of getting them into a "fully reporting" mode? What else has he accomplished for shareholders of CMKX? Why is he representing both UCAD and CMKX (if that is truly the case)?

How about sending them this post as well? Will you be kind enough to do so?


[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 15, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 15, 2004).]
 


Posted by gmac78 on :
 
Winsum,

That should be a very interesting response!!
Thanks for sending it!!!!

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gmac
 


Posted by ali on :
 
Thegreenbaron..CEO Webcast ...US Canadian Minerals (UCAD)

http://www.thegreenbaron.com/CEO%20Webcast.htm
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Winsum,

More. If Glenn is representing both UCAD and CMKX, is he involved in their transactions with one another? If so, isn't that a conflict of interests? Wouldn't that represent a non-arm's length transaction if he is involved in such dealings and/or negotiations?

If Glenn is representing both companies, there's an old and true saying that "NO MAN CAN SERVE TWO MASTERS" that applies to conflicts of interests.

Request you send E&A this as well as the above. Thanks.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 15, 2004).]
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Appreciate the effort Winsum but don't hold your breath waiting for the response. I e-mailed them a question a month or so ago and never received a reply.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by pharmdman:
Nice work Winsum! I can't wait to see the response.


Hey Pharm, welcome back. Glad to see you've been able to duck three punches in a row. Fla. has had more than it's share this year.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Good job Winsum. Wallace, keep working on that spin. So far, it just doesn't cover you.
 
Posted by pharmdman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:

Hey Pharm, welcome back. Glad to see you've been able to duck three punches in a row. Fla. has had more than it's share this year.


thanks, noah.... it's getting a little old right now!... I'm glad it's not me dodging another one today, but I sure feel sorry for those folks who are!
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
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Ever wonder why some posters/members seem to be more calm in their approach to the cmkx drama? Well..there is probably more than one reason..but I believe there is one major factor that the most well respected (long) posters share (you all know who I am talking about..Dr.D., Zen etc.)..

IMO even though they may have their own theories or investment strategies there's one thing each of these posters probably have in common-- the ability to "turn down the noise"..

This cmkx drama has been unfolding for some time now..and for many of us it started about the same time Roger Glenn came into the picture..(obviously for others..this cmkx story has been going on much longer)..

but I think its safe to say that a lot of investors here would NOT be here if it wasn't for the credibility that Roger Glenn brings to the equation..

Now since this story has begun to create some momentum..many theories have come and gone..some pieces of the puzzle have been revealed but then more questions have come up as well..countless race rumors have been spread and investors have been exposed to "magical" dates that have turned out to not mean a thing..it has been one he!! of an emotional rollercoaster..but for those who don't know how to get off the ride, I can only imagine how raw their emotions must be..

getting wrapped in the emotions of an investment can be a trap..pumping or bashing can create an unrealistic expectation as it is..but when you're dealing with a stock like cmkx-- perhaps the most potentially, emotionally charged roller coster ride in recent history..it is not surprising that emotions begin to play a roll..

IMO no-one is completely immune to these emotions..unless you're a robot..

personally, I find myself "feeling" differently right after a PR compared to those "waiting periods" in between PRs..it can even seem at times that our investment is being held together by the anticipation of the next PR..but when I step back and take inventory..I know this is not the truth..

Question: If you "turn down all the noise" what do you hear? lol..I'll share at least what my perception is when things get real quiet..

I'll put it this way..to get rid of ALL the noise..I ask myself some what IF questions..

What IF there is no NS problem..

What IF the O.S. is anywhere between 200 and 800 billion?

What IF we don't have diamonds and/or minerals RIGHT NOW..

These what IF questions then take care of a lot of the theories out there concerning share structure..short covering..core sample results (from Carolyn etc)..dividend deadlines and dividend payment ratios and whether or not they are restricted etc..

And even with these What IF questions eliminating all or most of the noise..I am STILL happy with my investment..

Why?

Because there are some things that are indisputable facts..facts that DON'T CHANGE every time a new rumor from the races doesn't come true or an anticipated "magical" date approaches and then dissapoints..

IMO these What IF's still allow me to compute an "approaching worse case scenario"-- a scenario which is STILL attractive as an investment..

based on the FACT that we have a TDEM ariel survey with hundreds of anomolies..

based on the FACT that we have financing from several sources (private financing and partnerships) to drill these targets

based on the FACT that we have a well respected lawyer overseeing this process..

based on the FACT that we have 1.4+ million acres of claims in an area where Debeers is serious about diamond mining and where other companies are finding diamonds as we speak..

based on the FACT that well respected geologists have agreed on the potential of the Sask area for yielding economically feasible diamond mines..

based on the FACT that Debeers has a valuation on one claim that is between 40-80 billion dollars..

based on these FACTS..it is easy for me to eliminate most of the noise and imagine that just ONE cmkx claim could be conservatively valued at the low end of this range..

now take a 40 billion dollar valuation with an O.S. of between 200 and 800 billion shares (even with no NS problem)..and (even without considering any dividend questions..lol) and do the math..


(Added by noahltl: 40 bil valuation divided by 800 bil o.s., worst case scenario
40 bil / 800 bil = .05 pps. $50,000.00 per million shares.)

this is perhaps one way to explain why some of us are smiling even when there seems to be so much confusion all around us..

but I have to admit I have to remind myself every now and then..because it is easy to get caught up in all of the emotion..

now this is not to say that I believe we will only have just one mineable target..or that we have an 800 billion O.S..or that there is not a N.S. problem..or that the dividends aren't important..

but what I am saying..is look at what we do know..and START with that..

this way when you try and speculate or theorize or when you entertain yourself with rumor..you can still at least attempt a smile even when everything else seems to dissapoint..

There are no slam dunks in the stock market..and I am not pretending that this is one either..I just feel that by observing the facts..cmkx IMO presents a great opportunity..please do your own DD. diamondogg

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 15, 2004).]
 


Posted by GatorMan on :
 
noahltl, I liked your post. I like the "eliminate the noise" angle you used. It's true, there are certain indisputable facts that make this investment a reasonable, if risky, one.

I'd like to point out one problem in your pps evaluation that you and everyone else, even the "well respected (long) posters" seem to overlook. CMKX has sold off something like 30% interest in it's claims for one reason or another. So when the property evaulation is done it should be reduced by this amount since that portion of the claim does not belong to CMKX. I realize that they get some off that back since there seems to be a web of ownership, but to to keep the numbers simple, and more conservative this should be tanken into account. So I'd suggest that your pps should be closer to .04 rather than .05. It's still very significant. Not trying to pick on you, as I said many posters seem to overlook this.

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~,-,-< GatorMan

[edited for better clearity]

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Posted by noahltl on :
 
Green Baron / UCAD interview now available:
http://www.thegreenbaron.com/CEO%20Webcast.htm
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
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I think so much emphasis has been placed on how magnanimous and caring Urban is that we have lost sight of the fact that he is a businessman. We have created the persona of a great and powerful benefactor that cares lovingly for his shareholders like the Wizzard of Oz. Not very likely.

Now, that aside, I, too, am confused about why we are supposed to be so excited about the unfolding picture. What happened to all the promises (unsubstantiated and mostly of our own creation) of eventually having a pps .. even a little pps. This is the only stock I have ever seen that can issue two PR's and leave people more in the dark than ever.

Do you personally still feel there is something here to have hope for in our lifetime (preferably the next six months). Granted the amount of stock I have is a pittance compared to some (5.5M) but I have allowed it to represent the light at the end of the tunnel. If there really is no light I need to start figuring out a way to deal with the darkness. We all trust you and realize that even with your vast knowledge you cant possibly know what UC and CMKX are planning for the future. Your best guess would be so very much appreciated. Just one more time.

Leslie

Hi Leslie,

Hold on to your light with CMKX. CMKX is not going anywhere without you being carried along. Urban has PRed over the last few years what his intention is and it is right on TRACK. NOT right on SCHEDULE. But on track. I think many have confused the two and believed that everything was a slam dunk and what we are finding out is that there are several variables in position that is effecting our schedule. The plan is proceeding with specifically what Urban said he would do in acquiring companies to benefit CMKX. He would utilize the A/S and the O/S to acquire these companies. There would be a cross dividend policy in effect that would begin placing value in our portfolios through these transactions.

Urban was putting together a so called "Dream Team" that would see to the accomplishing of CMKX's goals and I believe that Roger Glenn was the last needed team member to come on board. Everything is pretty much in place and the squeeze is being put on the shareholders at this point when many thought that the squeeze would be put upon the MM's.

As I released about 3 weeks that the MM's could try to disguise their position all through the dividend issues and thus discourage investors that would in frustration and disgust sell their position in CMKX.

We are looking at that very scenario as I mentioned before in length and I will echo again that they can short and fake their way right through the dividends if they have an incredibly large naked short share position on CMKX. And I believe they do and are!

Many that thought they would be long are upset and thinking short. Many that were short are already planning to get out or have already taken an out. Those that had no idea if they were long or short are more than likely gone or trying to sell now just to recover their investment and write the whole thing off.

Nothing has changed for CMKX except we have more money flowing in, we have more value based on shares we have received through these partnerships and joint venture agreements, we are closer to being reporting than ever before, we drilled a new target that was confirmed by our 1st class aerial survey to be PRIMO Excellente. What I meant was it is most excellent.

What has happened then? Our PPS hasn't moved up. Stop looking at the pps and wait for the plan to continue to unfold. There are long and short term growths emerging from CMKX before our eyes, but most are blinded by the lack of respect we are getting in the PPS.

Simply put many investors watching the PPS will pierce themselves through with many sorrows for no reason and may even give up their position on CMKX because of no PPS recognition. The PPS is being heavily manipulated and has been for nearly 2 years according to PR's from CMKX.

Since you know the score of the game is being manipulated by the score keeper and they are not recording your teams advances and scores, that doesn't make you or your team a loser because it isn't showing up on the scoreboard. The record books keep tally of the teams true scores and eventually the score (PPS) board will be adjusted to indicate the true score and until that time watch the game and not the score.

In my opinion, we will win and are way ahead and it seems most on our team (shareholders) doesn't even know it. Look at the facts that many excellent team members of ours have posted and you will see that with one diamondiferous kimberlite pipe (like we are drilling now) reporting the diamond content that was PRed in Nov 27, 2002 (1.76 to 4.90 per ton) will send our PPS soaring to over $1 IMHO. Whether it does or not we will still find ourselves in position for some hefty cash dividends and share dividends as these other discoveries come in.

We are in great shape and I believe that Victory and Success are already in hand and that hand is getting ready to be exposed for all to see.

Just my opinion and I ask that you treat it as such.

Dr.D
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
i distinctly remember MAY MANY posts saying this is a slam-dunk....
LOL


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Just did a little dd on the Green Barons picks of the last two years. I hope CMKX doesn't follow their pattern! If you would have invested $1,000 in every stock they picked in 2003 and 2004, you would have invested $16,000 total and based on todays last price of each, your investment would be worth $8,841.50.
 
Posted by pharmdman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Just did a little dd on the Green Barons picks of the last two years. I hope CMKX doesn't follow their pattern! If you would have invested $1,000 in every stock they picked in 2003 and 2004, you would have invested $16,000 total and based on todays last price of each, your investment would be worth $8,841.50.

Have they been stealing my method lately?! I did so well not long ago, but I can't seem to repeat it (or even come close to it) again.
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
Dear Dr D

For the last few months I have smelt this terrible smell whenever I log on and read your posts. Whatever could it be?

Yours,

I. Diot

Dear Mr Diot

Do not fear. There is nothing wrong with you. That is simply the fresh smell of bull$h|t. It comes naturally with all my posts of late.

Sincerlely

Dr D


 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
I'm sorry. I am all for this stock going up, but the good doctors last post was taking the piss IHO

[This message has been edited by tic_toc (edited September 15, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Up, I'm not a big fan of Green Baron, but what day / swing trader holds a stock for two years? Here is there current chart and numbers.

Symbol Date Profile Profile Price High

CMKX 08-09-04 0.0004
AMCT 05-12-04 0.72
0.94
PRRPF 04-06-04 0.13
0.395
SEGB 03-05-04 0.38
0.51
DJRT 01-30-04 0.37
0.45
CMGI 01-09-04 2.01
3.29
IDLM 01-09-04 3.28
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CWLC 01-09-04 0.57
0.89
TPBV 12/03/03 0.012 0.076

ALPE 12/03/03 1.15 1.35
VNTB 11/01/03 0.013
0.02
GLVP 10/12/03 0.185
0.20
PLRS 09/15/03 1.15 1.55

USEY 08/12/03 1.59 2.00

CWLC 05/19/03 0.26 1.10

WRPR 02/14/03 0.059 0.25
JADE 01/24/03 1.25 5.88

APPA 11/15/02 0.80 4.45

EENC* 11/15/02 2.25 16.19

* SPLIT ADJUSTED


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
yeah,but CMKX is a long-term hold ???
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Winsum, as much as I suspect your intentions in your message to Edwards & Angell were meant to be honorable and harmless, I do sincerely hope they respond relative to Glenn, CMKX and UCAD.

You might also inquire as to the following:

According to many of the protagonists on this CMKX thread, Glenn is top notch and well versed in securities law and non-law securities matters. Further, said protagonists also state that he has considerable experience with the SEC. Assuming all that is 100% correct, ask them why he has not insisted that CMKX shareholders have not been given information with which to make intelligent trading decisions. Such information is considered a key requirement both in securities law and by the SEC, is it not? Ask them why, since CMKX and various insiders (probably including Glenn) know the figures, the issued and outstanding has not been released. Why the finances of CMKX have not been released? They know those figures!!! If they file tax returns (profit OR loss), they MUST know such info. Try to persuade them that some interested people and traders do not buy the "big secret" "future plans" crap.
---------------------------------------------

noahltl responded to one of my statements below as follows:

Conflicts of interest and non-arm's length transactions? Typical of an unethical operation and they are commonplace.


A: You cite CMKX for illegal operations? Do you have proof to back that up?
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Please do not distort my statements or the intent of my meanings. I never once "cited CMKX for illegal operations"!!!

It is "common knowledge" (a legal term), with any NYSE listed company top officers as well as NYSE people who police their activities relative to the Exchange's Rules and Regulations, that conflicts of interest and non-arm's length transactions are considered unethical and not permitted with NYSE listed companies. If they happen, such as in the case of Enron and it becomes known, they are promptly terminated.

It just so happens that company deals with other companies owned or controlled by officers, directors and other insiders are resolved prior to any original (what you call new) listing on the Big Board. They would not be listed otherwise. What does that tell you as to what is considered ethical vs unethical?

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 15, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
yeah,but CMKX is a long-term hold ???


CMKX has returned 3 to 4 times my initial investment.


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:

CMKX has returned 3 to 4 times my initial investment.



Return is calculated on SALES noah, if you tried to SELL it right now, you would double i assume???
you ought to go into politics.....LOL
 


Posted by ONTHEAIR on :
 
Hay guys... thought you might enjoy this!!
Remember they wouldn't talk about the ...ium word?....Look where they're diggin!


Trend Mining Announces Entry Into Athabasca Uranium Play
Wednesday September 15, 1:51 pm ET


DENVER, Sept. 15, 2004 (PRIMEZONE) -- Trend Mining Company (OTC BB:TRDM.OB - News) is pleased to announce that it has staked mining claims totaling approximately 10 square kilometers (appx. 4 square miles) in the Athabasca Basin of Saskatchewan. The new land position is located along the western margin of Cree Lake and is situated along the Mudjatik Domain-Virgin River Break, a major structure believed to control the location of important uranium occurrences in the Athabasca Basin.
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Saskatchewan's unconformity-type uranium deposits are among the richest in the world. Such deposits occur at the paleo-horizon (unconformity) between underlying Proterozoic basement rocks and overlying sandstones of the Athabasca Formation. The basement rocks often contain structures and horizons bearing graphite. The graphite horizons in turn are believed to control uranium deposition and may also serve as a guide to such mineralization during geophysical prospecting from the surface.

The Cree Lake area acquired by Trend is known to contain hydrothermally altered boulders of sandstone and is staked along an important basement structure thought to control uranium deposition elsewhere on strike. The altered boulders of sandstone, indicative of potential uranium mineralization, are considered a pathfinder for exploration purposes. Trend Mining intends to conduct surface geological and geochemical studies along with geophysical surveys before locating drill targets. It is expected that drilling may occur perhaps as early as the summer of 2005.

In other news, the Company announced that Mr. Kurt Hoffman had resigned from the Board of Directors. Mr. Hoffman had served as past President and was a Director for six years. Mr. Hoffman is presently engaged in other exploration activities in the United States and has decided to devote his full time to the start-up of a new exploration company. Trend acknowledges Mr. Hoffman's past contributions and dedication and wishes him well in his new endeavors.

Trend Mining Company is a U.S. based exploration company that has 100% ownership and large land position at two North American precious metals properties with potential for hosting significant metal deposits containing platinum, palladium, gold and other metals.

Throughout this press release there are forward looking statements and assumptions made by management within the meaning of Section27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 and are subject to the safe harbor created by those sections. Factors that could cause results to differ materially from those projected are, but not limited to, adverse price fluctuations of underlying metals, the company's ability to acquire and develop properties, competition from larger more established companies, the ability to finance future acquisitions and projects, and governmental regulation. Trend Mining Company believes that the projects it has entered into and those it will enter into show promise, but there can be no guarantee of that. This press release is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as an offer to solicit, buy, or sell any security.



 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Wallace said:

"Guaranteed he is there to keep things legal so they can get away with what they have been doing with out criminal prosecution. How does that protect the shareholders?"


Protecting them (CMKX - Urban)from criminal prosecution, would indicate that they are involved in criminal activities from which they could be prosecuted. And it implies that RG is involved in a conspiracy to cover it up. Accessory after the fact?

Keep spinning Wallace but I think you really stepped in it this time in your rather twisted zeal to bash this stock.

 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:

Return is calculated on SALES noah, if you tried to SELL it right now, you would double i assume???
you ought to go into politics.....LOL


Already been in politics once in my life. Dirty business. Didn't like it much. And you do know of course that smart invetors in this stock, have sold some in the past to get into a profit, or at least free share position?


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tic_toc:
Dear Dr D

For the last few months I have smelt this terrible smell whenever I log on and read your posts. Whatever could it be?

Yours,

I. Diot

Dear Mr Diot

Do not fear. There is nothing wrong with you. That is simply the fresh smell of bull$h|t. It comes naturally with all my posts of late.

Sincerlely

Dr D



Tic, the good Dr is in every evening about 8-9 e.t. at his PalTalk site. Why don't you stop in tonight and confront him personally? He would probably love to discuss this with you.


 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
lol, it wont let me in. I'm on a mac.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
noahltl wrote:

Protecting them (CMKX - Urban)from criminal prosecution, would indicate that they are involved in criminal activities from which they could be prosecuted. And it implies that RG is involved in a conspiracy to cover it up. Accessory after the fact?

Keep spinning Wallace but I think you really stepped in it this time in your rather twisted zeal to bash this stock.
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Why do you think any company hires outside counsel? Do you think they just want to spend their money as opposed expecting said counsel (lawyers) to aid in protecting them and the company from litigation as well as criminal prosecution?

Please stop trying to be some kind of detective. Apply it to learning more about CMKX's questionable activities. You are out of your league when it comes to the securities markets.

"implies cover up"? That is not what I have been saying or suggesting whatsoever. What I have been saying would preclude the need to cover-up. Again, please do not distort my statements.


[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 15, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Spin, spin, spin. But too much spinning and you might have a web you can't extricate yourself from. You've certainly shown how much you know about the securities market. LOL
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Moving up to Amex? Easy to read site on qualifications. Option 3 might be our way up if our income is high enough.

http://www.venturelawcorp.com/listing_requirements_amex.html
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
noahltl wrote:

Option 3 might be our way up if our income is high enough.
--------------------------------------------

First CMKX has to show income, let alone get it "high enough". Have you seen any signs of their currently producing revenues, let along positive income? Has their track record ever shown any revenues or income?
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by noahltl:
quote:
Up, I'm not a big fan of Green Baron, but what day / swing trader holds a stock for two years?

Three months suit you better? Actually it's much better. In 3 months time your 16,000 investment would only have been reduced to 14,609.29.
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
OK
I don't care what CMKX WILL DO at this point, I am even. Suspect a number of other longs have played this with all partners same as me.
------
GREAT JOB WINSUM
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A long life other dealing with business people equal to & greater than myself ( and I consider myself very astute in judging others). I must say that no matter how smart you think you are, when dealing with others who must eventualy reach into thier pocket for $(MM), there are infinite ways that you have not thought about that directs a course of action that will stun you.
Patience is a virtue and so is common sense.
Hope most of you are exercizing both.
VAN
PS: Let me offer an observation about the posts on this board, Not to include or exclude anyone(because I can't remeber all)
NEGATIVE t POSITIVE
Several who have been banned
Wallace#1
Secman
Will
Upside
- - - -Realists
Blue byrd in all forms
Bill 1352
Will & Upside at times
OTHERS who post infrequently(3-5)
= = = =
VAN
= = = =
OTHERS who post infrequently1-2)
Noah
WWJD
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This says nothing about wether common sense may or not been used in trading, just how information is spun to this site.

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 15, 2004).]
 


Posted by secman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
OK
I don't care what CMKX WILL DO at this point, I am even. Suspect a number of other longs have played this with all partners same as me.
------
GREAT JOB WINSUM
------
A long life other dealing with business people equal to & greater than myself ( and I consider myself very astute in judging others). I must say that no matter how smart you think you are, when dealing with others who must eventualy reach into thier pocket for $(MM), there are infinite ways that you have not thought about that directs a course of action that will stun you.
Patience is a virtue and so is common sense.
Hope most of you are exercizing both.
VAN
PS: Let me offer an observation about the posts on this board, Not to include or exclude anyone(because I can't remeber all)
NEGATIVE t POSITIVE
Several who have been banned
Wallace#1
Secman
Will
Upside
- - - -Realists
Blue byrd in all forms
Bill 1352
Will & Upside at times
OTHERS who post infrequently(3-5)
= = = =
VAN
= = = =
OTHERS who post infrequently1-2)
Noah
WWJD
========================
This says nothing about wether common sense may or not been used in trading, just how information is spun to this site.

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 15, 2004).]


Yet another useless post by the resident dufus.... thanks
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by secman:
Yet another useless post by the resident dufus.... thanks

Once again rchaud98, were you talking about Van's post or yours?


 


Posted by secman on :
 
in a PR we where promised the following:

1.results from carolyn pipe.
2. news of Vegas meeting.(per ir man melvin)
3.news of canadas meeting(per ir man melvin)
4. video of drilling (8-5-04)pr
5.national tv campaign 12 spots run thru 12-18-04(7-14-04)pr
6.Pacific stock t/a, nothing about why they stopped and went back tp Global(6-29-04)pr
7.shutting down msg board, will be back up soon(6-18-04)pr
8.ucad and cmkx to move forward together, more details in future news release(7-18-04)pr

these are just a few of the recent promises. I tried to stick to the PR ones because the ones from IR Melvin, are numerous. to say the least. IBC radio, Pal-Talk etc.

I feel we as stockholders are being drug along for a ride without any accountability from our company. I know everyone says just wait, but look at this outside the box and as an investor. All the other stocks we own, we would not be this patient. If Ford, Msft, GE or any other company made these statements we would be up in arms.

Yes I also know they are reporting companies, but isn't that what we are trying to do. Become reporting. Expect higher standards from companies that are reporting. If we are to assume a trillion $ valuation should'nt our Board of directors act as such.

Just food for thought gang, nothing bad meant by this thread just trying to get feed back.

 


Posted by stockfreak on :
 
hello all i have only been in this stock for about 4 months i have 500,000 shares but i got in at .0007 that sucks but im in. i really have been confused with this stock not moving at all but down and back up but im hanging long. i wish i new if it could possible even hit .01 within the next few months what does everyone think.
 
Posted by secman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockfreak:
hello all i have only been in this stock for about 4 months i have 500,000 shares but i got in at .0007 that sucks but im in. i really have been confused with this stock not moving at all but down and back up but im hanging long. i wish i new if it could possible even hit .01 within the next few months what does everyone think.

Kiss the $350 bye bye? Seriously just write it off as a loss if it even is that as I lose easily lose and make 350 on my swing trades.
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
WELL
My post was mostly for those showing up here of late! and so far speaks for itself.
VAN

 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by stockfreak:
quote:
hello all i have only been in this stock for about 4 months i have 500,000 shares but i got in at .0007 that sucks but im in. i really have been confused with this stock not moving at all but down and back up but im hanging long. i wish i new if it could possible even hit .01 within the next few months what does everyone think.

I wouldn't go so far as to write it off just yet but I wouldn't get my hopes up too high either. Some things are happening with this company and depending on whose side of the story you believe, they are either very good things that might make us all wealthy or they're nothing more than a smokescreen to cover a massive case of fraud. I suspect the truth lies somewhere in between the two. Why bother selling now? At best you'll get 100 - 150 dollars back less commission. Stick around and join the fun and frustration that is CMKX.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockfreak:
hello all i have only been in this stock for about 4 months i have 500,000 shares but i got in at .0007 that sucks but im in. i really have been confused with this stock not moving at all but down and back up but im hanging long. i wish i new if it could possible even hit .01 within the next few months what does everyone think.


Stock, I was about to tell you that you probably don't want to know what "everyone" thinks, but one of them beat me to the punch. (Not you UP, rchaud98) If you are comfortable with losing your $350 investment, then you have taken a risk in the best stock you could have chosen to see astronomical increases. If you are uncomfortable, then you should probably not be investing in "pinks". Can any of us assure you that you will see any increase in the near future? No. All of the shareholders are eagerly awaiting PR's on the future of this company. Moving from pinks to a higher board is a complex issue alone, without the probability of a naked short share situation. It will require patience, on top of your commitment to remain long on this stock. If you have both of those, welcome aboard. If not, the bashers here will scare you into selling like they have a few others. IMO.

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 15, 2004).]
 


Posted by stockfreak on :
 
thanks alot upside little better response then secman gave me. i am trying to learn more about this stuff and i am just spending fun money and i hope we all do good i dont think i could ever get wealthy with 500,000 shares but a little profit will be great i really would like to purchase another 500,000 and just stick around in case it gets up to .03 or .05 someday. and 1 more thing is there a site or something that could educate me a little more on trading i dont want to always bother people here i would like to help sometimes also.
thanks hope to talk again and thanks for not being rude there is alot of them people around here. LOL
 
Posted by slpj1960 on :
 
(This post and question is for the people that spend a whole lot of time knocking this stock) I appreciate your trouble in trying to save a person like myself from a stock like this that I believe in, but have a question for you all if you dont mind. With all of the free time that you spend here trying to help me "Would any of you like to tell me about a stock that you do like?" If you all are trying to look out for people like me who have to work alot, you wont mind answering this question.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
I currently like BLYC and TFCT. BLYC is more long term, TFCT is short to mid.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by secman:
Kiss the $350 bye bye? Seriously just write it off as a loss if it even is that as I lose easily lose and make 350 on my swing trades.

Secman, you are always harassing people. If you are going to bash, pleas structure your sentences so that we can understand the thought you are trying to convey.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
.0004 close. Tape painted with a $20 trade. Wonder which MM did that? And why?
 
Posted by slpj1960 on :
 
Thanks Upside, I am in BLYC and like them also.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
They're a good company with a lot of things happening. Might take a little time but eventually I expect to see this one at .10 or so.
 
Posted by pharmdman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by slpj1960:
(This post and question is for the people that spend a whole lot of time knocking this stock) I appreciate your trouble in trying to save a person like myself from a stock like this that I believe in, but have a question for you all if you dont mind. With all of the free time that you spend here trying to help me "Would any of you like to tell me about a stock that you do like?" If you all are trying to look out for people like me who have to work alot, you wont mind answering this question.

Very nice post... i hope you don't mind, but I'm copy/pasting to another thread.
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by slpj1960:
"Would any of you like to tell me about a stock that you do like?"

Very good question.But I think that might actually might take time away from their bashing.Also would show how good they aren't.
In pennyland it's tough to pick the next runner.In sub-pennyland(and Pink sheets) it's tougher.I would love to see a know-it-all show us a stock trading @ .0003-4 that has as much to offer as CMKX does(other than ITDJ) right now.They can't.As much as people love to cry about how bad this is,CMKX does have a direction.DIAMONDS.
Just watch,people will bash this.
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
I will hold this stock til it reaches 20 billion dollars. At .0003 yesturdays close and 800 billion shares it is still at less that 300 million dollars.

Does anyone here think 109 anomolies could produce 20 billion in diamonds?


I know Wallace is going to chime in it is unproven. I know. That is what speculation is about. If you wait til it is proven then you will lose a large part of the potential profits.

If this stock reported a great find in the morning, do you think Wallace could buy by .0005, before it bounces to .001. Maybe. But I work in the daytime.

If you aren't in now you could lose half your profit or more when this hits.


Remember 20 bill/ 800 bill = .025


All the naysayers who think we have lost all potential just can't add.

Now, it is possible this is a scam. It is possible all the press releases are bogus. But that would be 100% fraud.

1. If no drilling into kimberlite = fraud

2. If no mineral rights = fraud.

3. If knowingly extending OS past possible return = fraud.


Why would Glenn come in to keep us between the lines in the sale of rights, and then turn around and commit fraud?


The key is the PR. Any pr moves this into the realm of open fraud. Does anyone think any attorney is stupid enough to represent a company that is stupid enough to tell us they are drilling kimberlite in Canada when they arent.


You bashers just don't get it. I appreciate your carefulness but every step pr'd is the view of a company trying to find diamonds.

Why Wallace wants a company less than a year young to look like anything more than a shell is beyond me.
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Also would like to add most stocks that have been oppressed down to .0001 do a reverse split.
What did CMKX do?Moved up 1000%... but back down to a gap up 300-400%.What's wrong with that?
 
Posted by will on :
 
Now now, child, I have told you about a few I liked, and I think they worked for you ???
Right now I'm liking QANT and watching QTFI. Trying to but a lot of pigslop, CDVY @ .0005, IVOC @ .0009, maybe a little lower, ADVC @ .0009.
They all suck, but if you're patient and can grab them at the lows I think you can make $.
quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
Very good question.But I think that might actually might take time away from their bashing.Also would show how good they aren't.
In pennyland it's tough to pick the next runner.In sub-pennyland(and Pink sheets) it's tougher.I would love to see a know-it-all show us a stock trading @ .0003-4 that has as much to offer as CMKX does(other than ITDJ) right now.They can't.As much as people love to cry about how bad this is,CMKX does have a direction.DIAMONDS.
Just watch,people will bash this.


 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Were any of you part of the old cmkx board where an investor called the lab to see if they had finished the samples.

The lab refused to comment except they did verify they had samples.


If this is a fraud CMKX, The Lab, UCAD, Gemm, and a whole host of other companies have committed fraud also.

You need to get a life other than investigating stocks because no group of companies does what you accuse CMKX of.

By the way, UCAD has confirmed puplicly they are working with CMKX, and last I looked they are on Canadian govt maps.

Get a life people.
 


Posted by will on :
 
Hey Van, how you doing? Good to see you. I think I got your post, sometimes I am just negative and bash, and other times I have serious concerns that are being interpreted by some as negative.
No big deal either way. There are open questions, and I also think people assign positive spin to things that could or could not be positive.
All's well, looking for a real move in the PPS.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by slpj1960:
(This post and question is for the people that spend a whole lot of time knocking this stock) I appreciate your trouble in trying to save a person like myself from a stock like this that I believe in, but have a question for you all if you dont mind. With all of the free time that you spend here trying to help me "Would any of you like to tell me about a stock that you do like?" If you all are trying to look out for people like me who have to work alot, you wont mind answering this question.

i post them all the time.....
i don't sit around pumping them, cuz i am too busy looking for more......
if you guys want to pump them, that's fine with me as long as you stick to FACTS....LOL
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
remember Raider, if they find 20 Billion in diamonds in the ground, they still won't go to .025 and hold for everybody to sell.....it might bounce there or even higher for a little while....but it's not likely to be long enough for the float to turn over
i wish it worked that way, but it doesn't....

part of the pumper game is to convince others that the value will eventually be much greater than is reasonable, that way when the price does top out, it's easier to sell before everybody else realises it happened...that's why i almost never post buy/sell prices....

look at MDSEF--they have PROVEN gold in the ground worth well over 10 times the market cap.....

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Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Exacly right,

I think if we can sell at a penny that will be good. That is very likely. Maybe more.

But I purposely used the extreme 800 billion, I think that is stretching it.

If everything goes right this company will be worth much more than 20 billion. Double or triple that.

I still think it is a great investment and will wait it out.

Well worth it.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Van wrote:

OTHERS who post infrequently1-2)
Noah
WWJD
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What?!?!? Are you looking at this CMKX thread? LOL

 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Raider wrote:

I still think it is a great investment and will wait it out.

Well worth it.
---------------------------------------------

Your odds are probably a lot better in a Las Vegas casino, and, that is no "investment" either!
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
there is a lot about this stock that could be better but these bashers and a certain few that go way over board secman for 1 really need a new hobby. lets have a poll, how many ppl in here have over 2 grand tied up in this stock??? i have about 1 grand a bit less in it & i got in late. mine are at .0004 about the same amount i bet on football every yr. now if i hit 1/2 my bets i'll get a return of about 3 grand as i only bet a parley card. if the grand i bet on cmkx hits i think my return will be a bit more then that. so what are these bashers really trying to accomplish. the next thing ya know they'll be trying to tell me that the Pats -2 against the Cards is a bad bet
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Now now, child, I have told you about a few I liked, and I think they worked for you ???
Right now I'm liking QANT and watching QTFI. Trying to but a lot of pigslop, CDVY @ .0005, IVOC @ .0009, maybe a little lower, ADVC @ .0009.
They all suck, but if you're patient and can grab them at the lows I think you can make $.

I've been out.
Will, I'm not talkin' about pessimists,I'm talkin' about wining, crying,nothing-ever-good to say BASHERS.
HA HA HA.You and GMAN got a guilty conscience?LOL

 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
How many of you remember this:

Casavant Mining Kimberlite International Announcement
LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 6, 2003--Casavant Mining Kimberlite International Inc. (OTCBB:CMKM) announced today that its time shared lease agreement of an ancient Chinese jade collection was appraised by experts and a random sampling of the overall collection was authenticated by Elizabeth Childs-Johnson.

And this:
Casvant Mining Kimberlite International Announces Cancellation of Jade Collection
LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 7, 2003--Casavant Mining Kimberlite International, Las Vegas (OTCBB:CMKM), management today announced that it has cancelled the acquisition of the ancient Chinese jade collection as previously stated in CMKM's 14c, which stated on Dec. 30, 2002, the company acquired $50 million dollars worth ...

And this:
The mystery surrounding CMKM emanates largely from its decision to cease providing audited financial information to shareholders and potential investors. The Company stopped filing public reports in July 2003, shortly after it failed to file its Form 10-Q report for the quarter ended March 31, 2003. On May 16, 2003, CMKM advised the SEC that the March 31st report would be filed late (but no more than five days late) because it needed "further time" to prepare financial statements. Late turned out to be never.

And this:
Prior to November 25, 2002, the entity now known as CMKM was involved in a completely different enterprise. The Company, which was then called Cyber Mark International, Inc., had been in the electronic game business, although without appreciable success. According to its Form 10-Q for the quarter ended September 30, 2002, Cyber Mark's assets consisted of $344 in cash. There were no operating revenues. At the time the Company had approximately 352 million shares outstanding. The balance sheet was dismal - but at least there was a financial statement for investors to review.

And this:
Consequently, investors must rely upon fragmentary information in the "Information Statement," which asserts that the Casavant mineral claims were valued at $10 million "in situ" at the time of the merger, not including pre-merger expenses of $3 million. It did not say how Casavant arrived at that valuation.


And this:
In the absence of public filings, information on CMKM has come via a series of press releases. Unfortunately, those press releases reveal little information that would demonstrate the viability of CMKM's business or the value of its stock.

And this:
How many of these shares have been issued? That remains a mystery, but as a rule companies do not tend to dramatically increase their authorized capital unless they have issued all, or nearly all, of the available stock.

And this:
There are other pieces of information including drilling equipment that was said to be in use when they later stated it hadn't even reached the drilling site some considerable miles distant.
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The above things are just starters as to verifiable information. Now, tell me why anyone in their right mind would put money into CMKX stock.


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
[B]
The above things are just starters as to verifiable information. Now, tell me why anyone in their right mind would put money into CMKX stock.
[B]

Because what you're laying down is old news.I put $ into it to make money off diamonds,not games.DIAMONDS.

from another CMKX investor...

based on the FACT that we have a TDEM ariel survey with hundreds of anomolies..

based on the FACT that we have financing from several sources (private financing and partnerships) to drill these targets

based on the FACT that we have a well respected lawyer overseeing this process..

based on the FACT that we have 1.4+ million acres of claims in an area where Debeers is serious about diamond mining and where other companies are finding diamonds as we speak..

based on the FACT that well respected geologists have agreed on the potential of the Sask area for yielding economically feasible diamond mines..

based on the FACT that Debeers has a valuation on one claim that is between 40-80 billion dollars..

based on these FACTS..it is easy for me to eliminate most of the noise and imagine that just ONE cmkx claim could be conservatively valued at the low end of this range..

now take a 40 billion dollar valuation with an O.S. of between 200 and 800 billion shares (even with no NS problem)..and (even without considering any dividend questions..lol) and do the math..

this is perhaps one way to explain why some of us are smiling even when there seems to be so much confusion all around us..

but I have to admit I have to remind myself every now and then..because it is easy to get caught up in all of the emotion..

now this is not to say that I believe we will only have just one mineable target..or that we have an 800 billion O.S..or that there is not a N.S. problem..or that the dividends aren't important..

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Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
You have anything from ,oh,say,1982 on CMKX you'd like to share with the masses Wally?

How far back you going to assail this?

You need help,get a life man.
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Hey Van, how you doing? Good to see you. I think I got your post, sometimes I am just negative and bash, and other times I have serious concerns that are being interpreted by some as negative.
No big deal either way. There are open questions, and I also think people assign positive spin to things that could or could not be positive.

All's well, looking for a real move in the PPS.



I KNOW
Just helping new people understand what they are reading, no particular opinion weather pos/neg opinions right or wrong.I remember a time when the board was generally positive even with negative views expressed and everyone hammered out all that was said and came to a consensus.
VAN

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Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
You have anything from ,oh,say,1982 on CMKX you'd like to share with the masses Wally?

How far back you going to assail this?

You need help,get a life man.


hi-way....what are we gonna do with you????
wallace is just trying to point out to you that people don't change very often.....
every once ina while one gets elected president and becomes superman, but usually when somebody hires a lawyer it's to GET OUT of trouble....LOL
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
What happens when a company overstates resources

quote:

Capital Hill Gold, Inc. Retracts Mineral Reserves, Economic Projections and Restates Historical Information
7/15/2004 1:11:10 PM
VANCOUVER, British Columbia, Jul 15, 2004 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- Capital Hill Gold, Inc. ( CAGI ) (the "Company") confirms that it has been contacted by the British Columbia Securities Commission (BCSC) with respect to the Company's disclosure for compliance with National Instrument 43-101 Standards of Disclosure for Mineral Projects (NI 43-101). The BCSC has requested that the Company retract and/or restate the information previously disseminated to the public.

Retraction of Mineral Reserves and Economic Projections

In its recent news release and on its website, the Company disclosed mineral reserves and economic projections based on these reserves. This disclosure was contrary to NI 43-101 for a number of reasons. For example, the Company's disclosure of mineral reserves used noncompliant categories and was not supported by an independent technical report. In addition, the mineral reserve statements and economic projects were not based on at least a current preliminary feasibility study.

As a result, the Company specifically retracts its previous disclosure of mineral reserves along with the economic projections based on these estimates. The public should not rely on the previously disclosed estimates and projections until they have been independently verified and supported by a compliant NI 43-101 technical report and a current/updated preliminary feasibility study.

The Company also reports that there were numerous errors in its Research Profile that are unsubstantiated and misleading statements. The Company has removed the Research Profile from its web site for amendments by a Qualified Person as defined under NI 43-101.

Restatement of Historical Information

In its recent news release and on its website, the Company disclosed mineral resources that were also contrary to NI 43-101. For example, the mineral resources used noncompliant categories and were not supported by an independent technical report. Previous releases were based on historical information on the Mexican Hat property which is believed to be reliable but the accuracy of which cannot be guaranteed by the Company.

The Company is not treating these resources as current NI 43-101 defined resources, has not done the work necessary to verify the historical estimates and has not conducted any of its own resource estimates on the property. Therefore it is not able to say what portion of, if any, of the historically supported material would meet present reporting requirements under NI 43-101. As a result, these historical estimates should be considered exploration targets for further work and the public should not rely on the previously disclosed estimates until they have been independently verified and supported by a compliant NI 43-101 technical report.

Restatement of Exploration Potential

The Company based its recent exploration potential comments in addition to exploration (drilling and trenching) on the Victoria fault, the Linda and 16 zones as a result of a review of the following historical information.

On February 10,1997 Jean Descarreaux, Ph.D. P Geologist reported that in 1990 Placer Dome US Inc. conducted a *geological reserve study of the most important known gold-bearing zones on the Mexican Hat Properties. Included in his report was the following summary:

"A structurally controlled, volcanic rock hosted gold occurrence has been documented at the Mexican Hat property. The mineralogy and geochemistry are indicative of a epigenentic epithermal system. The gold is hosted by irregular fracturing. Gold is also found in low angle fault zones.

62,120 feet drilling has defined a kriged drill indicated *resource of 154,000 ounces of Gold. The total near surface *geologic resource is estimated at 300,000 ounces of Gold. Preliminary pit optimizations yield between 44,000 and 103,000 recoverable ounces of Gold from material grading 0.28 to .033 opt Au, with strip rations ranging from 4.4:1 to 5.0:1."

The potential qualities and grades referred to above are conceptual in nature. There has been insufficient exploration by the Company to define a mineral resource on the property and it is uncertain that further exploration will result in discovery of a mineral resource on the property.

Method Used

A (see Note) geological reserve study was performed on that part of the Mexican Hat Property within the limits of Sections 5 through 24, an area 950 by 1,950 feet in extent that includes the major identified gold bearing zones.

Three classifications were used:

Indicated: Gold Bearing material within 50 feet of drillhole or Trench Control

Inferred: Gold bearing material beyond 50 feet but within 100 feet of drillhole or trench control, and its extension where continually can be geologically projected to additional drillhole or trench control

Possible: Gold bearing material projected beyond 100 feet of drillhole or trench control

Estimation methods that rely on constant grade variability (polygonal, inverse distance weighting, and ordinary kriging) will produce dubious results for this deposit. Therefore indicator kriging was chosen as the estimation method.

Kriging is an acceptable method of quantifying mineral resources. While the company is in possession of a summary report of the results of kriging the Mexican Hat mineralization, detailed information such as block models is not available.

On August 25,1989 Matt Gray P. Geo. on behalf of Placer Dome US Inc. prepared a project review in which he summarizes:

"A structurally controlled gold occurrence has been documented at the Mexican Hat Property. The mineralogy and geochemistry are indicative of an epigenetic epithermal system. Surface mapping and drilling have identified six gold bearing zones. The aerial extent of the gold system identified to date is roughly 2,500 by 1,500 feet. A minimum *permissive target of 10.340 million tons at a weighted average grade of .0358 opt au (361,894contained ounces) is inferred from 41 reverse circulation and 6 diamond drillholes. Additional work is warranted by the results of this program."

The potential quality and grade referred to above is conceptual in nature. There has been insufficient exploration by the Company to define a mineral resource on the property and it is uncertain that further exploration will result in discovery of a mineral resource on the property.

On April 22,1996 Robert L. Akright Geological Consultant prepared a report at the request of Kalahari Resources, Inc. the subject of which were the Mexican Hat Properties. In this report he confirmed the amongst other things the following:

"There is an untested zone roughly cone shaped directly beneath the Mexican Hat Peak which could contain 2.5-3.0 million tons of material. Rock samples collected from the surface of this zone and surrounding zones contain anomalous gold values between .006 - 0.030 oz. Au./ton and the zone is bounded by drill holes with significant intercepts."

Again on April 22,1999 Robert L Akright Geological Consultant confirms the exploration potential and further states that "it is likely the top of the hill a cone shaped block, could be gold mineralized and with drilling could be moved from a waste rock to a *reserve category, thus increasing *reserves and reducing the stripping ratio."

The potential qualities and grades referred to above are conceptual in nature. There has been insufficient exploration by the Company to define a mineral resource on the property and it is uncertain that further exploration will result in discovery of a mineral resource on the property.

Note: terms not recognized under NI 43-101

On Behalf of the Board,
KENT CARASQUERO
Secretary, CFO

The information provided above has been reviewed CK Ikona, P Eng, a Qualified Person as defined by NI 43-101 who believes it accurately reflects information contained in available historical reports.

Cautionary Statements:

Statements contained in this press release, which are not historical facts, are forward looking statements as that term is defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are based largely on the Company's expectations and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties beyond the company's control, including but not limited to economic, competitive and other factors affecting the Company's operations, management team effectiveness, expansion strategies, available financing, market prices and recovery costs, government regulations involving the Company, facts and events not known at the time of this release, and other factors discussed in the Company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. These statements are not guarantees of future performance and readers are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date of this release. The Company undertakes no obligation to update publicly any forward-looking statements.




 
Posted by trgfunds on :
 
http://frogurt3.dyndns.org:8080/aero/hater.html

for all the haters

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Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
Looks like hurricane IVAN has all the rats running for shelter. Me thinkest the basheres art getting a bit nervous. What's with all the negative vibes. Was there a disaterous PR that I missed? I thinkest not. Alas poor Wally, I knew him well (NOT). Et tu Basher...be gone with thyself. The beast hath consumed thee. Thou days are numbered.

Repent....Good night...
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Work,
Hast thou attended a Renaissance Faire in thy near past?
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Here's more, highwaychild. Some or most of it from recent 10QSBs as they refer to both companies or to UCAD alone.

In 2003, the company moved from the OTC BB to the pink sheets and changed its symbol to CMKM. During 2003 Casavant Mining Kimberlite International acquired a company that was in the process of mining zinc. However, in order to maintain their focus on diamond exploration Casavant Mining Kimberlite International decided to "spinoff" the zinc division as a separate company. Casavant International Mining was formed and each shareholder of Casavant Mining Kimberlite International was issued a share of the new company for each share of Casavant Mining Kimberlite International that they owned. Originally, the spinoff company was going to merge with Mirador, Inc., a publicly traded company, to make the newly issued shares tradeable. However, plans for the merger have been put on hold indefinitely.


LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 19, 2004--CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX - News) has agreed to invest US$1,000,000 in Casavant International Mining referred to as (CIM). CMKM Diamonds,Inc. will receive in return a 10% lifetime royalty on all mineral claims of CIM , specifically including the George Lake Zinc Deposit,

Q: Thought they spun this company off to “focus on diamond exploration”? Instead, now they are pouring money into it?

Casavant has been assembling the world's diamond experts to assist in developing
the company.

Q: Exactly how many of said “experts” ? Assuming he is still with them, isn’t it just ONE? Wasn’t that Mark Hutchinson?

" In addition the company will merchandise purchased diamonds under the "Casavant" brand name.

Q: How many have been purchased and how many have been sold?

... Casavant Mining Kimberlite International Hires Charles Bronson For Financial Public Relations. ...

Q: Remember that one? Suppose Melvin was responsible for proofing that release?

Re: UCAD's Value and other Questions

The Company's accountant has included the following statement in its notes to this filing:
"The accompanying financial statements have been prepared on a going concern basis, which contemplates the realization of assets and the satisfaction of liabilities in the normal course of business. The Company has incurred cumulative net losses of approximately $18,345,000 since its inception and requires capital for its contemplated operational activities to take place. The company's ability to raise additional capital through the future issuances of the common stock is unknown. The obtainment of additional financing, the successful development of the Company's contemplated plan of operations, and its transition, ultimately, to the attainment of profitable operations are necessary for the Company to continue operations. The ability to successfully resolve these factors raise substantial doubt about the Company's ability to continue as a going concern. The consolidated financial statements of the Company do not include any adjustments that may result from the outcome of these aforementioned uncertainties."

NOTE: The above is from UCAD’s 10QSB (dated 3/31/04, filed May,04). The above is what is called a “qualified” accountant’s statement.

Q: How viable do you think this company is and how valuable do you think it’s stock as a CMKX dividend really is?

On February 26, 2004, the Company entered into a joint venture agreement with CMKM Diamonds, Inc., a Nevada corporation, to conduct a airborne survey of the fort a la Corne Kimberlite fields, including the 500,000 acres held by NevCan

Q: If I remember correctly, didn’t CMKX conveniently forget to mention this when they released similar information? Do all those 100s of anomalies identified include those on UCAD’s claims as well? It appears that the company identified as “NevCan” may in fact be Nevada Minerals.

From UCAD’s most recent 10QSB (filed Aug,04):

In August 2001, the Company's Board of Directors adopted a resolution whereby it approved a 10-to-1 stock split of the issued and outstanding shares of common stock. In December 2001, the Company's Board of Directors adopted a resolution whereby it approved a 1-for-10 reverse stock split. In December 2003, the Company's Board of Directors adopted a resolution whereby it approved a 1-for-100 reverse stock split. In January 2004, the Company's Board of Directors approved a 125-to-1 reverse stock split of its common stock.

GOING CONCERN - The accompanying financial statements have been prepared on a going concern basis, which contemplates the realization of assets and the satisfaction of liabilities in the normal course of business. The Company is in the development stage, has no operating revenue and has incurred cumulative net losses of approximately $17,700,000 since inception.
These conditions give rise to substantial doubt about the Company's ability to continue as a going concern.

Q: What do the above two statements tell you about UCAD’s real value?

3. FIXED ASSETS
Fixed assets consist of the following as of June 30, 2004 and December 31, 2003:
December 31,
June 30, 2004 2003
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Equipment $ 13,023 $ 13,023
Less: accumulated depreciation 9,879 6,735
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$ 3,144 $ 6,288
============ ============

Q: Just how much mining can be expected from UCAD with equipment worth $3,144 on their balance sheet? That's about what an old car is worth.

Q: How does that effect the value of the dividend CMKX shareholders will receive?

Re: JUINA Mining

YELLOW RIVER GOLD MINE ACQUISITION

On March 22, 2004, the Company, by and through Juina Mining Corporation, acquired an 80% interest in the Yellow River Mining, S.A., an Ecuador corporation, in exchange for 5,000,000 shares of the Company's restricted common stock. Yellow River Mining, S.A. holds legal rights and claims to gold mining operations in "Provincia Del Oro" [Province of Gold] in southwest Ecuador. The area is well known for gold mining operations that have been carried on there since the 1600s. However, the present mining operations are rudimentary and much of the mining work is done by hand. Very little modern mining equipment is available or used. No aerial surveys, mini bulk sampling or full bulk sampling have occurred on the property. An independent expert geologist has not proved up the area as a reserve or a resource. No equipment exists on site or otherwise owned or controlled by the Company, that would allow full scale development of the mine should it satisfy all conditions precedent to it being determined to be a resourc e. Thus, in order for the Company to develop this asset, financing will have to be acquired in order to satisfy the conditions precedent for full-scale mining to occur, and there are no guarantees that the Company will obtain such financing.

Q: Just how much value here is can be attributed toward UCAD’s stock, and, then to the CMKX dividend of that stock?

10. IMPAIRMENT OF INTANGIBLE ASSET
In September 2002, the Company agreed to issue 1,300,000 shares of the Company's common stock to the CEO and director of the Company for the acquisition of equipment and intellectual property valued at $12,000 and $157,000, respectively. During September 2002, the Company issued 650,000 shares of common stock, and subsequently transferred these shares to an entity affiliated with the CEO ("Affiliate"). In addition, the Company recorded a liability of $84,500 reflected as Due to Related Parties for the additional 650,000 shares to be issued to the CEO and director to be transferred to the Affiliate. Due to the related party nature of this transaction, the Company recorded the property at the historical cost rather than fair value of the property.

10. IMPAIRMENT OF INTANGIBLE ASSET (CONTINUED)
During 2002, the Company determined the intellectual property had no future value and recognized an expense totaling $157,000 for the impairment of intangible assets. During 2003, the Company issued 650,000 shares of the Company's common stock in consideration of the $84,500 liability.

Q: What the heck does the above mean? First the property has value and then it does not? Yet they still issue shares for said intellectual property (whatever that is)?

The Company also received a stock subscription agreement from a related party to CMKM Diamonds to purchase 600,000 shares of the Company's common stock at a price of $5 per share. The $3,000,000 has been received by the Company and immediately used to exercise the options on the first 2% of the current and future claims of CMKM Diamonds, Inc. under the July 18, 2004 agreement, noted above.

CMKM Diamonds, Inc.
On July 18, 2004, the Company acquired 5% of all mineral holdings of CMKM Diamonds, Inc. for 7,500,000 shares of common stock of the Company. On the same date, the company acquired an option to purchase an additional 10% of such mineral holdings for $15,000,000.00 USD. On July 27, 2004, the Company made its initial exercise pursuant to this option in the amount of $3,000,000.00 USD which is equivalent to an additional 2% of such mineral holdings. Most of CMKM Diamonds, Inc.'s holdings are in Saskatchewan, Canada in the general vicinity of the Company's Fort a La Corne and Smeaton holdings.

Q: From one hand to the other and back again?

Fort a La Corne
On January 20, 2004, the Company entered into a joint venture agreement with Nevada Minerals, Inc. to develop up to 500,000 acres of potential Kimberlite mineral property located in Canada. Kimberlites are raw materials from which diamonds are extracted. The Company has conducted preliminary drilling and obtained core samples that are presently being examined in a geological laboratory. There is no guarantee that any of the samples, or samples taken from any other area near the property, will yield Kimberlite with diamonds. The property is owned by Nevada Minerals, Inc. The joint venture has a term that expires on January 20, 2005. On July 18th 2004, Nevada Minerals, Inc. sold an additional 20% interest in this property and sold its remaining 60% interest to CMKM Diamonds, Inc. The Company is entitled to 40% of the net revenues produced from this property. Until the drilling program is complete, the Company can not make an accurate assessment of possible development costs due to uncertainty as to size, depth and location of any diamondiferous bodies.

Q: Does this now mean that CMKX has a controlling interest in claims formerly owned by Nevada Minerals?

Want more FACTS?

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Posted by COACHPHILM63 on :
 
secman:

The next time you copy one of my post from another board copy the entire link...

Coach
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Glassman wrote:

hi-way....what are we gonna do with you????
wallace is just trying to point out to you that people don't change very often.....
every once ina while one gets elected president and becomes superman, but usually when somebody hires a lawyer it's to GET OUT of trouble....LOL
---------------------------------------------
Might I add to attempt to STAY OUT OF TROUBLE? LOL


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Looks like Secman / Rchaud98 is the one in trouble. CoachPhil sounds like he might twist his head off and shove it up his ........ Oh I can't say that.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Looks to me like you are getting personal again.

noahltl
Member posted September 16, 2004 01:04
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Looks like Secman / Rchaud98 is the one in trouble. CoachPhil sounds like he might twist his head off and shove it up his ........ Oh I can't say that.

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Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Looks to me like you are getting personal again.

noahltl
Member posted September 16, 2004 01:04



There won't ever be a post between me and that little worm that isn't personal Wallace. If you recall, he made it personal. I've seen him on other boards as rchaud98 and secman. No telling what name he will hide behind to continue his childish games. He has been thrown off of most reputable boards with his games. Yet you find kinship with him.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
My bet is this is the one Coach is upset about. Too well written for Rchaud98 / secman:


secman
Member posted September 15, 2004 15:14
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in a PR we where promised the following:
1.results from carolyn pipe.
2. news of Vegas meeting.(per ir man melvin)
3.news of canadas meeting(per ir man melvin)
4. video of drilling (8-5-04)pr
5.national tv campaign 12 spots run thru 12-18-04(7-14-04)pr
6.Pacific stock t/a, nothing about why they stopped and went back tp Global(6-29-04)pr
7.shutting down msg board, will be back up soon(6-18-04)pr
8.ucad and cmkx to move forward together, more details in future news release(7-18-04)pr

these are just a few of the recent promises. I tried to stick to the PR ones because the ones from IR Melvin, are numerous. to say the least. IBC radio, Pal-Talk etc.

I feel we as stockholders are being drug along for a ride without any accountability from our company. I know everyone says just wait, but look at this outside the box and as an investor. All the other stocks we own, we would not be this patient. If Ford, Msft, GE or any other company made these statements we would be up in arms.

Yes I also know they are reporting companies, but isn't that what we are trying to do. Become reporting. Expect higher standards from companies that are reporting. If we are to assume a trillion $ valuation should'nt our Board of directors act as such.

Just food for thought gang, nothing bad meant by this thread just trying to get feed back.



 


Posted by COACHPHILM63 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
My bet is this is the one Coach is upset about. Too well written for Rchaud98 / secman:


secman
Member posted September 15, 2004 15:14


You are correct, and thank you. When ever anyone wants to repost from another board, is fine by me as long as they copy the entire thread, instead of cut and paste. I am usually behind the scenes here on this board, but Noah knows Iam pretty vocal on the other board. Ricpic and some others, we talked about cmkx in length about a year ago, when Ric was really active on this stock. Keep up the DD and good luck to all. To much personal attacks going on in here for me to get real active. Some of you need to take some Meds.
SemperFi
Coach
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Upside
Member posted September 15, 2004 01:02
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Fact: CMKX's land claims do not appear on any Government published claim map. The only place you will see their name is on the maps printed and published by CMKX for their own promotional purposes.
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I think you need to know who owns each parcel of land the claims are on to aquire that info. That information is out there... somewhere.
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Glassman wrote:

hi-way....what are we gonna do with you????
wallace is just trying to point out to you that people don't change very often.....
every once ina while one gets elected president and becomes superman, but usually when somebody hires a lawyer it's to GET OUT of trouble....LOL


In some cases,people hire lawers to collect more money than they would get without one.

Also would be helpful if you wanted to move up an exchange or two.Don't you think?D.Glenn man has alot of experience with S.E.C. related cases.
It's not like he's a Jonnie Cochran type lawer.


 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Glassman
If R Glenn did not have the background he has in securities, I would totally agree with your comment about why most people hire lawyers. However, this particular lawyer has extensive experience in things like mergers, and getting companies in compliance for listing on big boards. I hope we can take comfort in that fact.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
Glassman
If R Glenn did not have the background he has in securities, I would totally agree with your comment about why most people hire lawyers. However, this particular lawyer has extensive experience in things like mergers, and getting companies in compliance for listing on big boards. I hope we can take comfort in that fact.

Notice how secman always suggests that you might be gay if you disagree with him? Hmmmm, I wonder.

Based on the level of frantic bashing, cmkx must be getting ready to fly.


 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
Based on the level of frantic bashing, cmkx must be getting ready to fly.



 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
Upside
Member posted September 15, 2004 01:02

Trading
If they do things in the Canadian Gov. like in the U.S., many maps are not updated on a frequent basis. How many years has UC had these claims? Maybe the maps have just not been updated. I noticed that same thing several months back and was concerned. I'm not now though.
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
DW
The filings @ registars office are current to about 3 days.
Drilling permits have been granted, in whose name ?
Maybe this is something we could reactivate and get this small answer?
- - - -
JUST eMAILED MELVIN
Would it be possible to scan & post the claim & permit to website where current drilling is being done ?
VAN

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Thanks Van. I was just talking about maps being updated. Good idea to have frequent updates posted.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
dwman wrote:

"...and getting companies in compliance for listing on big boards. I hope we can take comfort in that fact."
---------------------------------------------

dwman, there is only ONE "big board"! No more. NYSE (aka "the" Big Board).

Further, it will be a cold day in hell when CMKX gets listed on the Amex. As I have said before, EARNINGS! They will be lucky to get back on the OTC-BB, but won't be able to do that if they aren't reporting any longer. Look at all those companies with an "E" after their symbol and see how long it takes them to get back to a filing mode. No way it is three months or more, right?

PS: Should have added highwaychild here too, with the post about "moving up an exchange or two".

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Wallace
I used "big board" advisedly in the sense that, to me, AMEX is "big" compared to pink sheets activity. Don't nit pick.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
dwman wrote:

"...and getting companies in compliance for listing on big boards. I hope we can take comfort in that fact."


Wallace... go back and read my post. I DID NOT say that Glenn was working to get us listed. I said he had vast experience in working in such matters with other companies and it could be comforting to some to realize that he is on our team.

 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Did JBCak/Byrd/Blueyed get booted again? Haven't seen him here or his other usual haunts in a while.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
Wallace and all bashers....

Perhaps a reassessment is in order.

This is from another board.
Stock Symbol: SGF: TSX-VEN SHORE GOLD INC.
SASKATOON, SK, Sept. 15 /CNW/ - George H. Read, P. Geo., Senior Vice President Exploration, is pleased to announce the sixth set of diamond recoveries from the Star Kimberlite. The diamond recoveries to date total 1,392.83 carats from 12,124 dry tonnes processed. These results are for five kimberlite batches of a total of some 80 to 100 kimberlite batches that will be processed as part of the bulk sampling program on the Star Diamond Project, the aim of which is to recover a parcel of some 3,000 carats for valuation purposes. A total of 1,706 commercial sized diamonds (greater than 1.18 millimetre square mesh screen), collectively weighing 263.01 carats, has been recovered from the treatment of 1,198.88 dry tonnes of kimberlite. Forty-one diamonds greater than one carat have been recovered and the four largest stones are: 14.60, 10.14, 7.68 and 6.23 carats, respectively. In addition, 213 diamonds (3.35 carats) were recovered down to 0.85 millimetre square mesh. The colour of 64 percent of these diamonds has been classified as white, with a further 21 percent classified as off-white.
These five kimberlite batches (of a total of 33 processed) have been mined from the Southeast drive (Batches 22, 24 and 25) and the North drive (Batches 21 and 23) developed from the 235 metre shaft station. All of these kimberlite batches have been recovered from within the Early Joli Fou equivalent kimberlite. Results to date have shown that higher diamond grades are associated with the Early Joli Fou equivalent kimberlite than with the Late Joli Fou equivalent kimberlite. The relationships between these two kimberlites types are illustrated in cross sections available on the Shore Gold website: www.shoregold.com.

Batches 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32 and 12A (all from 235 metre level) have been processed on-site and the concentrates dispatched to the sorting laboratory for final diamond recovery. A total of 13,991 dry tonnes has been processed through the on-site DMS plant. Results from these batches are pending. All batches processed to date are classified as crater facies volcaniclastic kimberlites.

Kimberlite processed and diamond results for five sample batches are listed in the table below. Grades are expressed in carats per hundred tonnes (cpht).


-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Batch Location Diamonds Total Grade Largest
No. (metres below Dry Number of (carats) (cpht) Stone
surface) Tonnes Stones (carats)
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21 235 m Level: N drive 226.29 337 32.89 14.53 1.29
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22 235 m Level: SE drive 268.71 460 50.05 18.63 3.41
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23 235 m Level: N drive 248.08 331 45.63 18.39 6.23
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24 235 m Level: SE drive 201.43 460 60.24 29.91 7.68
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25 235 m Level: SE drive 254.37 331 77.55 30.49 14.60
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Total 1,198.88 1,919 266.36 22.22
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

The four largest stones are: 14.60 (Batch 25, White), 10.14 (Batch 25,
White), 7.68 (Batch 23, White) and 6.23 (Batch 25, Grey) carats, respectively.
Sixteen diamonds exceed two carats and 41 diamonds exceed one carat, of which
27 are white, 9 are off-white, 3 are grey and 2 are brown. A total of 86
diamonds exceed 0.5 carat. Sixty-four percent of the total diamond parcel is
classified white in colour, with a further 21 percent classified as off-white.
The diamond parcel includes 10 pink, 16 yellow and 6 amber stones. Over 98
percent of the carat weight of this parcel occurs in diamonds greater than
1.18 millimetre square mesh.
Senior Vice President Exploration, George Read, states: "These latest
results include a significant number of large stones and higher grades,
particularly for Batches 24 and 25. The frequency of plus one carat stones in
the Star Kimberlite will have a highly positive effect on the forthcoming
diamond valuation. Results to date indicate an average grade of 15.83 cpht for
the Early Joli Fou equivalent kimberlite (1,198 carats recovered from 7,570
dry tonnes)".
The diamond recovery procedure includes on site processing of kimberlite
through the modular dense media separator (DMS), after which DMS concentrates
are batch fed through an X-ray Flow-sort. In order to ensure the recovery of
low luminosity diamonds, the Flow-sort tailings are processed over a grease
table. Flow-sort and grease table concentrates are transported by a secure
carrier to SGS Lakefield Research for final diamond recovery. The SGS
Lakefield Research process includes drying, screening, magnetic separation,
manual sorting and diamond weighing and description. SGS Lakefield Research is
accredited to the ISO/IEC 17025 standard by the Standards Council of Canada as
a testing laboratory for specific tests.
Senior Vice President Exploration, George Read, Professional Geoscientist
in the Provinces of Saskatchewan and British Columbia, is the Qualified Person
responsible for the verification and quality assurance of analytical results.
The Star Diamond Project is designed to recover a parcel of at least
3,000 carats of diamonds to enable an accurate valuation of the stones. Up to
25,000 tonnes of kimberlite will be recovered from the shaft and drifts and
processed on site to produce this diamond parcel. Shore is a Canadian based
corporation engaged in the acquisition, exploration and development of mineral
properties. Shares of the Company trade on the TSX Venture Exchange under the
trading symbol "SGF".

"The TSX Venture Exchange has not reviewed and does not accept
responsibility for the adequacy or accuracy of this release"


http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/orgDisplay.cgi?okey=14555

For further information

Kenneth E. MacNeill, President & C.E.O.
George Sanders, Vice President Corporate Development
or George H. Read, P. Geo., Vice President Exploration at (306) 664-2202


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
dwman wrote:

"...and it could be comforting to some to realize that he is on our team."
---------------------------------------------

Good luck to being comfortable. "Our team"?
He is CMKX's outside counsel (lawyer). He is also UCAD's outside counsel from what I understand. CMKS and UCAD have had dealings with one another and appear to be continuing those dealings from time to time. I would think that his real "team" is Edwards & Angell"!

PS: And Shore Gold is not CMKX. Nor are they mining the same claim. I suggested that Shore Gold was a good buy some time back.

Got to go now. Talk to you later.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Oh gosh!!! Shore Gold is not cmkx? Darn. I'm gonna sell all my cmkx. I just KNEW they were one and the same...and I bet Shore Gold is working a claim that is a thousand miles from ours...and I bet R. Glenn didn't buy one share of cmkx. Thanks for looking out for me Wallace. You are better than Bill O'Reilly.
 
Posted by gmac78 on :
 
I listened to the interview of UCAD CEO Rendal Williams by Green Baron TWICE in order to make sure I heard everything Mr. Williams said concerning UCAD's ongoing projects. I'm just paraphrasing a few things that interested me.

In talking about CMKX he states UCAD has several projects (note the "s") planned with CMKX apparently in the future, but are EXTREMELY excited about the area they are presently drilling. He went to Canada and met Urban, because Urban had the permits, mineral rights, and equipment to commence the drilling and a "combined" effort would help all the partners (talking about the other three co's. also).

He stated that UCAD has SECURED the financing for their projects and in addition assisted some "other" (didn't name them)companies with their financing in the same "financing bundle".

He said that UCAD is exercising their option for the additional 10% mineral rights purchase with CMKX.

This is just a little of the information revealed during the interview with Williams and there is a lot more. He did say that his stockholders would be very happy with UCAD's 3Q filing.

I don't have anymore worries about my investment in CMKX, but it sounds like it's going to take some time for everything to develop with the mining. I do think that questions about A/S, O/S, valuation, etc. will come pretty soon.

I would suggest that anyone interested should listen to the interview and just sit back, smile, and forget about these "nay sayers" and let things develop. If anyone thinks that these FIVE companies are not serious about their business then no amount of information is going to convince them otherwise.

I'm happy, contented, and going back to "Lurk". I tried to be as accurate as possible, but this is my own paraphrasing of some of Mr. Williams information. There is a lot of interesting information about the other projects UCAD is involved with in this interview. The link to the interview is on the CMKX board.

The "bashers" can go find something else to "flail" away at!!!!! LOL GLTA

------------------
gmac
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
gmac, when speaking of the Green Baron, you might as well include Dr.D, Zen and Sterling as well as a few of the easily identified posters on this CMKX thread. All the same bent and venues.

GLTA
 


Posted by legal1082 on :
 
Hey guys, just a post I saw on another board!!


CMKX: Statistics in Exploring.

It doesn't matter if you are sampling for fisheries statistics, or variations in diameter for ball bearings in a manufacturing process stream, or searching for diamonds among millions of acres. Regardless, the science and methods of statistical derivation must be applied to the degree that it is practical, possible, and economically feasible.

"The problem involved with diamond grade estimation is due to the typically small number of (usually small) particles per unit volume (or mass). It is basically a SAMPLING PROBLEM WHERE THE LARGER THE SAMPLE, THE BETTER IS THE GRADE ESTIMATE- BUT THE HIGHER THE COST. A balance must be struck between the cost of the sample collection and processing, and the accuracy of the resulting estimate."

"The preferred size of the sample can be estimated by statistics. A sample size that returns about thirty diamonds (or "stones") will give a "statistically significant" result (THIS IS TRUE OF SAMPLING FISH IN A LAKE, THE HEIGHT OR WEIGHT OF GIRLS AND BOYS OF A GIVEN AGE IN A PARTICULAR SCHOOL DISTRICT, OR WHATEVER) but this may be impractical at the early stages of an evaluation program. In a preliminary sampling program, where there is no past data on the grade of the deposit, a useful starting point could be to use the world average for commercial diamond mining operations as follows:

1) average grade of 50 carats per hundred tonnes (cpht),

2) average diamond size of 0.1 carats per stone (ct/st) and

3) average diamond value of 50 US$/ct.

"on average, in the above example, 5 diamonds should be recovered from each tonne of processed source rock. To recover 30 diamonds we would therefore have to process 6 tonnes of source rock."

We are not there yet with the Smeaton Kimberlite Formation, so far as we know. However, Kensington and/or Shore Gold has sunk some shafts already in the Fort a la Corne area, in order to gain access to several tonnes of source rock, in order to gain a greater statistical sampling base. They would not have done so had their initial drilling results pointed the way to spending that amount of exploration money to further the data base of sampling results. Remember that most of the exploration money for diamonds in the world is going into Canadian exploration. And for good reason.

"Typically, a deposit with a high stone density will be easier to evaluate than a deposit with a low stone density because the sample size required to recover a significant number of stones will be smaller. At the very high grade Argyle Mine in Western Australia, where the mean stone size is small (» 0.08 ct/st),and the stone density is high (» 60 st/t), samples of only one tonne were more than adequate to obtain an initial grade estimate."

"The number of diamonds recovered from a sample will also depend upon the smallest size of particle recovered. In pipe evaluation, the macrodiamond is usually considered to be of a commercial size, ie. greater than about 0.5 mm, and below this size the diamonds are considered microdiamonds and are not usually recovered during commercial mining operations, except in the Sakha (Yakutia - Russian Federation) diamond mining operations."

"However many exploration companies use different definitions of what is a macrodiamond or microdiamond and care should be exercised in using this term; unless it is clearly defined. Australian and North American exploration companies usually use the term microdiamonds for diamonds less than 0.4 or 0.5 mm in size AND USUALLY RECOVERED DURING EARLY STAGES OF AN EXPLORATION PROGRAM".

TAKE CAREFUL NOTICE, FOLKS: WE ONLY HAVE THE RESULTS OF A FEW KILOGRAMS FROM A FEW SMALL DIAMETER DRILL CORES. THERE IS NO WAY A HIGHLY ACCURATE STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT EVALUATION CAN BE DERIVED FROM SUCH A SMALL SAMPLE. ONLY UNTIL WE HAVE PROCESSED AT LEAST 6 TONNES OR SO CAN WE EXPECT A BETTER SAMPLE BASIS FOR STATISTICAL EVALUATION.

Further consider this: If my estimate of a Fort a la Corne Kimberlite formation consisting of about 450 acres and 390 million tonnes is even close, and considering the geological fact that kimberlites occur in clusters, then which of the two following scenarios would you like to find yourself in, if you were a mining company:

1) 54,000 acres of mineral rights....

versus

2) 1.4 million acres of mineral rights.

Even if only 10% of the 1.4 million acres has economically attractive, relatively "accessible" diamondiferous kimberlite near the surface (about 400 feet below the surface or so), then we are talking about 140,000 acres of kimberlite. If I am even close in my estimates of the tons of kimberlites that kind of territory represents, then we are talking huge amounts of diamonds, potentially.

Not to mention the gold, platinum, palladium, rhodium, and other valuable minerals that are often associated and occur along beside diamondiferous mineral formations.

Locked and Loaded and Ready to Rock.

Tally Ho!

Wellmetfellow
 


Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
To "assume" that 10% of our claims are pure kimberlite is ridiculous!
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Money_Penny:
To "assume" that 10% of our claims are pure kimberlite is ridiculous!


Don't know why with Goldak and TDEM results.


 


Posted by gmac78 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
gmac, when speaking of the Green Baron, you might as well include Dr.D, Zen and Sterling as well as a few of the easily identified posters on this CMKX thread. All the same bent and venues.

GLTA


Wallace: I listened to RENDAL WILLIAMS and what he had to say. You might try that!! I don't give a "flip" about Green Baron, could care less what they say. Rendal Willams obviously has a mission, and he is fulfilling what his shareholders want him to do!! My opinion is that we (CMKX, but maybe not AS CMKX) will benefit from everything UCAD does now, and in the future, if you listen closely during his talk he alludes to that. This is just MOA!!! You are just being foolish if you think Roger Glenn and Edwards & Angell are just there to keep them legal, and I think you know that!!! GLTY

------------------
gmac
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
how about some statistics on how often 2 kimberlite pipes right next to each other produce the same results????
 
Posted by netsec on :
 
A long read but interesting...don't know if anyone picked it up yet.
******************************************

St. George Metals revived to join pink sheet promotion

2004-09-16 09:12 ET - Street Wire

See Street Wire (U-SGGM) St. George Minerals Inc

by Lee Webb

St. George Metals Inc., a recently revived Nevada-incorporated shell that can trace its lineage to the former Vancouver Stock Exchange (VSE), has become the latest patron of Urban Casavant's pink sheet company, CMKM Diamonds Inc. St. George will ante up $10-million (U.S.) and a whopping 200 billion restricted shares for a five-per-cent stake "in any and all mineral claims" held by CMKM. (All amounts are in U.S. dollars unless otherwise indicated.)

As with many things involving CMKM, exactly how many mineral claims the company holds is a matter of some conjecture. Based on sketchy information provided by the company, it appears that CMKM may have varying interests in claims covering between 1.4 million acres and 1.9 million acres in Saskatchewan.

Most of the company's prodigious promotional and modest exploration efforts centre on its heavily touted diamond prospects in the Fort a la Corne area where there are two advanced diamond projects, one owned by a group headed by De Beers Canada Corp. and Kensington Resources Ltd. and the other owned by Shore Gold Inc.

Notwithstanding the many years and many millions of dollars spent by the De Beers and Kensington group and Shore Gold, neither of those projects has yet been established as economically viable. Nonetheless, they provide some promotional mileage for CMKM, which purports to be "racing to find more diamonds" in Saskatchewan.

It remains to be seen whether the cash infusion from St. George will give some traction to the racy CMKM promotion, widely touted as the "stock play of a lifetime."

CMKM reports that it has already received $5-million in two equal payments from St. George, the most recent on Sept. 13, and expects two additional payments of $2.5-million over the next 30 days.

At this point, the source of that $10-million is a mystery, and it may well remain so. Like CMKM, the resuscitated St. George trades on the unregulated pink sheets, free from the burden of even rudimentary disclosure requirements.

Another CMKM backer, U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc., trades on the OTC Bulletin Board and is subject to reporting requirements with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).

So far, U.S. Canadian Minerals has peeled off 7.5 million shares in exchange for five per cent of CMKM's mineral claims and has made two cash payments totalling $5.5-million under a one-year option agreement allowing it to purchase an additional 10-per-cent interest for $15-million.

Nearly penniless U.S. Canadian Minerals, flagged with a going-concern warning, executed an initial $3-million purchase under its option agreement with CMKM on July 28. An Aug. 23 SEC filing disclosed that the source of the $3- million was a subscription agreement for 600,000 shares of U.S. Canadian Minerals priced at $5 per share from an otherwise unidentified "related party to CMKM Diamonds."

After announcing on Sept. 8 that it had secured a further $3-million by way of a private placement, U.S. Canadian Minerals doled out another $2.5-million to CMKM on Sept. 9. The participant or participants in the Sept. 8 financing have not been even vaguely identified yet, inviting speculation among some skeptics that a party related to CMKM may have been involved in that private placement, too.

Meanwhile, questions have also surfaced regarding a relationship between Mr. Casavant's CMKM and the company's newest patron, St. George. According to a recent article by Dow Jones reporter Carol S. Remond, however, Mr. Casavant claims that he has nothing to do with St. George and knows nothing about it being a dormant shell.

The recently revived St. George is now headquartered in Vegreville, Alberta, a farming community with a large Ukrainian presence and several nearby Hutterite colonies. With a population of approximately 5,800, Vegreville is not known as a financial hub, but it does lay claim to being the home of the world's largest Easter egg.

Vegreville is reportedly also home to Mark Giebelhaus, president of St. George and the only identified officer of the company at this point. A directory search returns a surprising 21 Vegreville telephone listings for the surname Giebelhaus, but no public listing for Mark Giebelhaus.

St. George's investor relations spokesperson Vicki Curran also lives in Vegreville, as does her father, Victor Casavant, who happens to be Urban Casavant's brother. In a Stockwatch interview, Ms. Curran readily acknowledged that she was Urban Casavant's niece.

According to Ms. Curran, Victor Casavant is not involved with St. George. While he may not be directly involved with St. George, it does appear that he is at least "close" to the play.

A call to Victor Casavant's telephone number and a request to speak with Vicki brought the response that she was on another phone. Moreover, it appears that St. George at least briefly used a Vegreville postal box that has also been used by Victor Casasvant, including appearing below his signature on a 1995 settlement agreement with the Alberta Securities Commission.

Victor Casavant evidently ran afoul of Alberta securities regulators in connection with an illegal distribution of shares of a non-reporting issuer, Striker Minerals Ltd. The terms of the settlement agreement, a $1,000 (Canadian) fine and an acknowledgement of "the requirement to be more diligent when raising capital in the future," suggest that it was considered a relatively minor breach of securities regulations.

Ms. Curran told Stockwatch that she is new to St. George, but has about 13 years of experience in investor relations with other companies, both public and private. She would not disclose the names of the companies she was previously involved with, however, telling Stockwatch that the information would be provided in press releases issued over the next week.

While reluctant to discuss her specific background when contacted by Stockwatch, Ms. Curran offered some information regarding her former husband without any prompting at all. According to Ms. Curran, Kevin Curran served a brief stint as investor relations representative for Northern Star Resources Inc.

It is not clear why Ms. Curran volunteered that information regarding her ex-husband, but perhaps it had something to do with the fact that VSE-listed Northern Star was the successor to Petro Plus Inc., a company once headed by her uncle, Urban Casavant.

Mr. Casavant took charge of Petro Plus in November of 1995 when the stock price was languishing at about 15 cents. Under Mr. Casavant's guidance the share price climbed above $1 within a matter of months, amidst much nattering in news releases about "visible gold" in drill samples from one of the company's properties.

Petro Plus's stock price subsequently collapsed as quickly as it had risen and Mr. Casavant abruptly and rather intriguingly parted company with Petro Plus on Oct. 25, 1996. Petro Plus, which was halted at the time of Mr. Casavant's surprise departure, did not even bid him a fond farewell.

Three weeks after Mr. Casavant either jumped or was shoved out of Petro Plus, the company, which was still halted, served up a few more details about the affair including a share sale agreement between Mr. Casavant and the company's new president, Randy Studer. Under the agreement reportedly signed shortly after his departure, Mr. Casavant sold more than 1.9 million shares and more than one million warrants exercisable at 20 cents per share to Mr. Studer.

"Contemporaneously with the share sale agreement, an agreement was entered into between the company and Urban Casavant and certain extended family members to terminate any formal relationships or positions (excepting the rights under certain mineral claim option agreements)," the company went on to report in its Nov. 13, 1996, news release.

Petro Plus did not identify the "certain extended family members" whose formal relationships or positions with the company were terminated, so there is no way of knowing whether any of them are among the 22 Casavants disclosed as holding shares in CMKM. In any event, regulatory filings and various court documents related to litigation involving the Casavants suggest that family members are frequently associated with Mr. Casavant's enterprises.

Petro Plus closed out its news release with a rather curious statement.

"The transaction between Randy Studer and Urban Casavant was a positive agreement for all concerned and will now enable the company to focus on the business of mineral exploration," the company declared, perhaps raising the question of just what business the junior exploration company had been focusing on during Mr. Casavant's tenure.

As it turned out, the newly enabled focus did little for the company or the share price. With the stock changing hands at a Canadian penny in January of 1999, Petro Plus consolidated its shares on the basis of one new share for each five old shares and changed its name to Northern Star. Just over a year later, with the stock trading at five Canadian cents, Northern Star executed a similar rollback and changed its name to Odaat Inc.

Odaat, still under the direction of Mr. Studer, limped along until January of this year before executing yet another share consolidation, this time on the basis of one new share for each four old shares, and changed its name to Explor Resources Inc. Explor trades thinly and sporadically, sometimes going days between trades. It last changed hands on Sept. 9, registering a volume of 250 shares and closing at 34 Canadian cents.

While the Petro Plus affair is long behind Mr. Casavant, he at least briefly teamed up with his Petro Plus successor and current Explor president Mr. Studer again last year. On Aug. 27, 2003, CMKM awarded a reported $3-million mineral exploration and drilling contract to Mr. Studer's privately held Durama Enterprises.

Just how long that ballyhooed contract lasted and how much money changed hands, if any, are open questions. CMKM's last mention of Durama came in an Oct. 30, 2003, news release announcing that the company's Fort a la Corne diamond exploration had been delayed due "to unexpected magnetic storms caused by 'sunspots.'"

Meanwhile, some of the unanswered questions regarding CMKM's latest associate, St. George, should be answered over the next few days, according to Ms. Curran.

Among other things, Ms. Curran told Stockwatch that information regarding St. George's "brand new board of directors" would be released this week.

Ms. Curran would not disclose whether St. George had already raised the full $10-million needed to complete the announced deal with CMKM. Remarking that "it's definitely raising some flags to the investors," Ms. Curran said the "explanation will be in all the reports" to be issued this week.

According to Ms. Curran, "a handful of press releases" to be issued this week will provide the background of the company, where it is going, "levels of priority" and other information. A new Web site is also scheduled to be operational this week.

"I kind of feel like I'm helpless right now just because there is not a whole lot I can release unless it's public knowledge," Ms. Curran said.

At this point, there is very little information in the public domain regarding the revived shell.

According to company information provided on the pink sheets Web site, St. George had approximately 16.9 million shares outstanding as of Sept. 6. With a staggering 200 billion restricted shares comprising part of the deal with CMKM, that figure will see an astronomical revision. St. George is authorized to issue 950 billion shares, so the outstanding share total could be subject to more massive revisions.

While such lofty share figures are beyond the experience of most investors, they are old hat to shareholders of CMKM, which recently bumped its authorized share total to 800 billion. Based on information provided by the company regarding a dividend-in-specie distribution of 7.5 million shares of U.S. Canadian Minerals scheduled for Sept. 24, CMKM has more than 779 billion shares outstanding.

Notwithstanding the fact that the dividend ratio was first provided to regulators as required under U.S. securities regulations by CMKM's much touted lawyer, D. Roger Glenn, and subsequently revised by the company at about the time it raised its authorized shares to 800 billion, many of the hundreds of cult-like Internet followers of Mr. Casavant's promotion dismiss any suggestion that CMKM has issued more than 779 billion shares.

Indeed, some CMKM shareholders are prepared to argue, speculate and theorize at painfully convoluted length that there are really only a few billion shares outstanding. Others go even further, claiming that there are no real shares outstanding at all.

Given that fantasies trump facts among many of the starry-eyed CMKM shareholders, the dearth of information regarding the revived St. George may be much more of a boon than a bane for the company's imaginative devotees.

While there is little in the way of information regarding the current St. George, there is a considerable amount of historical information available regarding the former VSE-listed company. Some select and dated snippets regarding St. George caused quite a tizzy among CMKM's cultish followers.

Legend and History

Just how the former VSE-listed company came to be named is probably lost in the dustbin of history, but many people will undoubtedly associate the name with the legendary dragon slayer and patron saint of England, St. George.

The notion of dragon slaying may resonate well with many CMKM shareholders, particularly the band of loyal followers who congregate by the hundreds on PalTalk, an Internet chat site that provides participants with both text and audio communication.

Among the "dragons" that fantasy-loving CMKM shareholders would like to see vanquished are the market makers they believe are shorting this sub-penny pink sheet stock. The fantastic estimates of the size of the imagined short position, served up repeatedly by the PalTalk faithful, range from hundreds of billions of shares to a trillion or more.

The belief in a huge short position is evidently shared by CMKM's investor relations representative, Melvin O'Neill, affectionately known as Uncle Melvie. Mr. O'Neill is a frequent participant in the PalTalk palavers; indeed, he checks in almost daily.

"This company is being shorted to the bejeesus," Mr. O'Neill proclaimed on Aug. 12, much to the delight of the assembled throng. He went on to claim that Mr. Casavant and Mr. Glenn, the company's highly touted lawyer, are both convinced of the same thing.

According to the CMKM faithful, Mr. Glenn will be taking care of the shorting "problem," and many believe that Vegreville-based St. George will play a role in that trumpeted problem-solving exercise.

While the popularized exploits of St. George are widely known, including Disneyfied tales of his legendary dragon slaying in England, the actual historical figure never set foot in England. He was martyred in Palestine around 300 AD and pilgrims and crusaders carried the already embellished stories of his deeds back to England several centuries later.

Among the accounts of St. George that eventually found their way into manuscripts are tales that he was put to death three times, chopped up and buried, but resuscitated to carry on with his mission of converting heathens to the true faith. While the substance of those tales is generally discounted, some parallels might be drawn with the corporate history of the newly revived St. George.

St. George Minerals Inc., which was little more than a garden-variety VSE-listed junior mining company, began trading more than two decades ago. Among the early participants in St. George, however, were two people whose names have caused a tizzy among the excitable CMKM followers: Stewart Blusson; and Ross Blusson.

Stewart Blusson has near-legendary status among those familiar with Canadian diamond exploration. Along with the perhaps more widely known Chuck Fipke, Stewart Blusson discovered the diamond deposit in the Northwest Territories that became Canada's first diamond mine, the Ekati mine.

Alas, at least for the excitable CMKM fans, Stewart Blusson's association with St. George Minerals was fleeting and distant. He is recorded as receiving shares of St. George Minerals to satisfy a debt, something that occurred long before the company completed its makeover into St. George Metals in January of 1991.

Ross Blusson's association with St. George Minerals was more extensive and direct. He, too, received shares for debt, but he also participated in a private placement and served a stint as a company director.

Alas, again, at least for the CMKM fans excited by the very mention of the name, Ross Blusson was long gone before St. George Minerals executed its 1991 transformation into St. George Metals.

The liquidation of St. George Minerals and the amalgamation with its U.S. subsidiary was proposed by the company's five-member board of directors, which did not include anyone with the name Blusson, in January of 1990. The proposal received shareholder approval at the annual general meeting on May 31, 1990.

The liquidation and consolidation was consummated on Dec. 31, 1990, and St. George Minerals was delisted from the VSE on Jan. 29, 1991.

With St. George Minerals laid to rest, St. George Metals began trading on the VSE on Feb. 1, 1991. The resuscitated St. George Metals boasted seven directors, none of whom were named Blusson.

In less than a year after being called to trade on the VSE, St. George Metals racked up 12 delinquent filer notices before being cease traded by the British Columbia Securities Commission.

The company cleaned up its filings and the cease trade order was rescinded on Dec. 30, 1991, but less than six months later it was again being cited as a delinquent filer.

St. George soldiered on for a time, but the cash-strapped company ceased operations at its Dean Mine in Nevada in September of 1993. After tallying another eight delinquent filer notices, it was finally suspended from trading in 1995 and then ignominiously delisted from the VSE early in 1996.

Before its recent awakening, the shell traded sporadically on the pink sheets, eking out only occasional trades over the past year, most at one-10th of a penny. That changed rather dramatically following the Sept. 2 news release regarding the $10-million deal with CMKM.

On Sept. 8, St. George hit a dizzying high of 75 cents before settling back to 35 cents on a volume of more than 650,000 shares. More than 2.4 million shares changed hands the following day, but the price slid a bit further, ending the session at 26 cents. With just over one million shares trading on Sept. 10, St. George climbed back up to 37 cents.

The trading volume has dropped off this week as investors, including CMKM's faithful and excitable shareholders, await the promised announcements from St. George. None of the handful of information-packed news releases that were to be issued this week has yet appeared.

With a more modest 57,530 shares changing hands, St. George closed at 44 cents on Sept. 15.

Meanwhile, CMKM's share price has not enjoyed any lift at all from the deal with St. George, much to the consternation of the company's faithful followers. Indeed, the share price has been under some pressure, dipping as low as two-100ths of a penny over the past couple of days.

With more than 2.1 billion shares changing hands, and thanks to yet another of the rather frequent 50,000-share trades at the daily high logged at the bell, CMKM closed at four-100ths of a penny on Sept. 15.

The saga will continue.

Comments regarding this article may be sent to lwebb@stockwatch.com.
 


Posted by will on :
 
Here's a short read - .0003 close!
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Mr Webb of Stockwatch is an apparent graduate of the Dan Rather School of Journalism.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Money_Penny:
To "assume" that 10% of our claims are pure kimberlite is ridiculous!

Money...It's not like legal just came up with "ridiculous assumptions". We do have the Shore Gold PR from today. We also have the aereal survey. To call legal's assumptions ridiculous, is ridiculous. He should be able to share his thoughts without being called ridiculous.
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
ooops Noah...I didn't see your post to money. I agree.
 
Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
how about some statistics on how often 2 kimberlite pipes right next to each other produce the same results????

Since you asked:

73% of kimberlite formations exhibit similar mineral composition when these said formations are within the limits of close proximity and same geological formation and have not been diluted or tainted by glacial or sedimentary degregation.

US Geological Survey USGS/Reports: June 1997 / Volume 37, page 38


Seems to me that anyone can quote a source and it not be true or real. You guys should not believe everything that is put on this or any other board unless you do the research yourself. I've notice many false or misleading quotes of PRs, Magazines, Web Sources and Books that are presented as fact. The above is one of them. There is no such report, this was made up.
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well stock patrol is right. as of today there is no real concrete reason to buy cmkx stock except a hope & a prayer. do they have lots of mineral rights? yes but again no results that say lets put the mine here. UC does have a shady background. cmkx does have the highest o/s count ever known to the stockmarket. cmkx threads look at lot like the election campaign..if you mention kerry's voting record its called bashing. getting a lawyer, any lawyer is meaningless. you can make as strong a case for bad as good. the fact that he's a lawyer should say somtthing. still there are a few reporting companies that are willing to put money into cmkx and stranger things then cmkx turning into a huge payday happen all the time. the claims are in the middle and surround a huge diamond find. testing does show large amounts of kimberlite. but the biggest reason to buy is the pps, where else can you risk that much for that big of gain except the lotto and you get the added plus of entertainment at allstocks...lol
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
BILL on STOCKWATCH

By: bill19336
16 Sep 2004, 03:13 PM EDT
Msg. 82230 of 82252
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***How credible are CMKX's detractors?

First, Carol Remond has done some wonderful work on several occasions. However, she has also had to retract several stories and apologize for shoddy investigative work. I place both of her articles attacking CMKX in the latter category and I posted a rebuttal to every rumor and innuendo she made in her last article.

What about Stock Patrol and it's leader, a former felon who has been involved in securities violations? Do you question his motives for publishing a piece which contained nothing more then poorly researched speculation. I posted a rebuttal to all the rumors put out by this "self anointed" savior.

In regards to Stock Watch and Lee Webb. Anyone who has read his work knows his biased and narrow-minded reports do not carry the credibility necessary for a rebuttal. If you believe that a reporter should be clear headed, objective and supply both sides of the story, then do yourself a favor and read his posts on the RB board. That should pretty much give you the knowledge to form your own judgment about his credibility.

In my opinion, it comes down to who you believe. Do you believe a reporter who has made several pubic retractions? Do you trust a former felon? Do you trust someone who has limited credibility?

Or do you trust a partner in a prestigious wall street legal firm? Do trust your own eyes and review the mineral rights CMKX holds? Do you trust an owner who is not afraid of publicity? Do you trust the numerous "publicly" traded companies that CMKX has joint ventures with? Do you trust the fact that Citibank (SBSH) started trading in CMKX many months ago. Do you trust the fact that Canadian and American regulatory bodies have allowed CMKX to continue trading billions of shares a day without a peep?

I find it very curious that these three have been attacking CMKX from the beginning. In the last week all of them have written strongly opinionated articles with slanted and one-sided reporting. Does it appear the "gang of 3" has joined forces with the bashers and the manipulators in attempt to destroy CMKX?

I can only raise the questions, it's up to each of you to answer them. Use that answer to decide whether to buy, sell or hold.

Good Luck and it's all speculation
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=82230
 


Posted by will on :
 
Is there any proof of this? If so, how much do they own?

"Do you trust the fact that Citibank (SBSH) started trading in CMKX many months ago."
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WorkAHolic:
Since you asked:

73% of kimberlite formations exhibit similar mineral composition when these said formations are within the limits of close proximity and same geological formation and have not been diluted or tainted by glacial or sedimentary degregation.

US Geological Survey USGS/Reports: June 1997 / Volume 37, page 38


Seems to me that anyone can quote a source and it not be true or real. You guys should not believe everything that is put on this or any other board unless you do the research yourself. I've notice many false or misleading quotes of PRs, Magazines, Web Sources and Books that are presented as fact. The above is one of them. There is no such report, this was made up.


LOLOLOLOLOLOL.....
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Hey, guys, now this is really getting fun!

netsec,

I think you really did all the posters a good turn by posting Lee Webb's piece.

In addition to the "EGG" bit, I LMAO at least three times. Did anyone pick up on the following and notice the words "cult-like"? Sound familiar? I'd call that plagiarism!!!! LOL

Notwithstanding the fact that the dividend ratio was first provided to regulators as required under U.S. securities regulations by CMKM's much touted lawyer, D. Roger Glenn, and subsequently revised by the company at about the time it raised its authorized shares to 800 billion, many of the hundreds of cult-like Internet followers of Mr. Casavant's promotion dismiss any suggestion that CMKM has issued more than 779 billion shares.
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Will get back to noahltl's responses ASAP!
Remember the Boy Scout oath? LOL And it is not HOLD,HOLD,HOLD!

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Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Not to fond of your 'cult' comment I must admit.There's not any sacrificial mombo-jumbo going on here, no ghosts or no spooks.
What IS spooky to me is how shallow your life must be just to live it crucifying CMKX.
But oh well,you're the one living it.You must have alot more time on your hands than I do I guess.I'm not sure if you go around hammering other stocks ALL the time like you do here but I guess you don't or Allstocks would have blocked your Walla$$ by now.Go figure.Not sure as to how you get away with it here.Shallow.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
noahltl wrote:

Mr Webb of Stockwatch is an apparent graduate of the Dan Rather School of Journalism.
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Can you point out one thing and prove that what Webb stated is untrue? Just one? If you cannot prove it, can you just point it out?

Your repost of comments by "Bill" shows some very serious flaws. He refers to rumors and innuendos, but then they are what he used
to supposedly refute anything said by Webb or anyone else in that post. I did notice that he made no mention of Victor Casavant's
question of illegal distribution of shares and a settlement of $1000 CA.

Aren't you the one who frequently says negative things about RB?

Why haven't you or anyone else responded to CMKX's making no mention of the fact that the flyover included claims of UCAD and more? Was it an attempt to mislead readers of the PR? If in error (which should have been obvious), why didn't CMKX promptly correct the statement and include all the parties? How many of those 100s of anamolies were on claims of other companies?

Why has no one addressed the depleted amount of claims? Instead, they keep referring to 1.9 and/or 1.4 mil acres.

I am willing to bet that there is some kind of close connection between the controlling shareholders of both CMKX and SGGM (St George). From where is SGGM getting the funds for that deal? Is it going to be from one hand to another and then back again?

Why, if UC and CMKX want to focus on exploring for diamonds (as stated), have they now given $1 mil to CIM for a share of the so-called profits?

Forgot, this noahltl:
RATTLE, RATTLE, RATTLE!!!!

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Posted by glassman on :
 
hey guys, howzit???
i was just wondering....

if there is this big giant NS, why did the MM's "paint the tape" uptick for yesterdays close????
it makes more sense for them to be forcing it down if they are needing to cover shorts.....

 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
Not to fond of your 'cult' comment I must admit.There's not any sacrificial mombo-jumbo going on here, no ghosts or no spooks.
What IS spooky to me is how shallow your life must be just to live it crucifying CMKX.
But oh well,you're the one living it.You must have alot more time on your hands than I do I guess.I'm not sure if you go around hammering other stocks ALL the time like you do here but I guess you don't or Allstocks would have blocked your Walla$$ by now.Go figure.Not sure as to how you get away with it here.Shallow.


Highway, we've been caught, Congressman Wallace is landing at the airport right now. Pass out the Kool-Aid


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Glass,

It appears the only Naked Shorts existing are the ones being worn by the CMKX shareholders. LOL
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
south american punch flavor...LOL
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
See this is what I'm talking about.You have any idea how many people he's insulting here with his crap.It's getting old.Any stock this low has nothing more to offer than another at this price.Yet people pick this particular stock to hammer.I mean seriously.Why?
Again and again and again and again and again.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i think it has something to do with the ark thingy hiway....

 
Posted by will on :
 
Well, child, I think it goes something like this. People that have expeience either in the market, or with this stock saw the .0001 /.0002 jiggle then saw thw 1000%+ run, and retrace. They jus stop by to say, be careful, they have seen this or like things happen with this company. Then, WHAM! They get attacked by people who behave like starving wild dogs in a pit, and someone just threw some fresh meat in the pit. They are treated rudely and insulted for what originally for them was a word of warning. Now they get pissed off, and stay and antagonize the crap out of all strong long believers. Easy to figure out.

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
See this is what I'm talking about.You have any idea how many people he's insulting here with his crap.It's getting old.Any stock this low has nothing more to offer than another at this price.Yet people pick this particular stock to hammer.I mean seriously.Why?
Again and again and again and again and again.


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
i think it has something to do with the ark thingy hiway....

Maybe...But many have been raining on this far longer than 40 days and 40 nights.But this .0003 Co. deserves more respect.With it's RECENT track record of being at .0001 and no reverse split,moving up,'tring' to move up an extange and getting out of the .0001 'celler'.I just don't get where all the haterd stemes from.
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
I see Will.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Look up a post. It isn't hatred of the stock, it is the dislike of the treatment people get for just offering a differing opinion. I'd say the universal "you", has brought it on themselves here.
quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
Maybe...But many have been raining on this far longer than 40 days and 40 nights.But this .0003 Co. deserves more respect.With it's RECENT track record of being at .0001 and no reverse split,moving up,'tring' to move up an extange and getting out of the .0001 'celler'.I just don't get where all the haterd stemes from.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Can you point out one thing and prove that what Webb stated is untrue? Just one? If you cannot prove it, can you just point it out?
*****************************************
A: There was nothing in Webbs report that wasn't already known to those of us who have spent time doing DD instead of just hanging around bashing. However, the entire piece was propaganda and innuendo. It's way too verbose to take apart element by element. But I will just call attention to one part, the Petro Plus section. They note that Urban was there for almost exactly a year. One year contract? Looks likely. But they want to make it look sinister, so admitting that they didn't know why he left, they gave you two negative options, "ran or booted". What they didn't dwell on was the fact that he raised the pps from 15 cents to a dollar. It didn't collapse until after he was gone, and they use the questionable activities after he was gone to try and smear him further by some implication because he did business again at a much later date, with the CEO who succeeded him.
*****************************************
Your repost of comments by "Bill" shows some very serious flaws. He refers to rumors and innuendos, but then they are what he used
to supposedly refute anything said by Webb or anyone else in that post. I did notice that he made no mention of Victor Casavant's
question of illegal distribution of shares and a settlement of $1000 CA.

******************************************
A: I don't know Bill other than by his posts. Do you know, have proof, that Bill was using innuendo in his responses? Why would he comment on the Victor Casavant issue when the article clearly states it was petty. Obviously you have never run a corporation and had to keep up with the thousands of requirements and reports required.

*******************************************

Aren't you the one who frequently says negative things about RB?

********************************************

A: I have probably commented on some of the crazy things that people say over there just as I have aboout Sterlings PalTalk. But there are still decent, knowledgeable people posting at both of them.

******************************************

Why haven't you or anyone else responded to CMKX's making no mention of the fact that the flyover included claims of UCAD and more? Was it an attempt to mislead readers of the PR? If in error (which should have been obvious), why didn't CMKX promptly correct the statement and include all the parties? How many of those 100s of anamolies were on claims of other companies?

********************************************

A: We are joint venture partners with UCAD on the diamond explorations why wouldn't the Goldak have been used on both holdings? You and Mr Webb are the only ones trying to mislead readers. Do you think that the Goldak Survey people are involved now in your conspiracy theories? Do you think maybe they may know something about charting and surveying and how to survey the proper locations?

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Why has no one addressed the depleted amount of claims? Instead, they keep referring to 1.9 and/or 1.4 mil acres.

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A: Because no one asked me. Melvin gave a completely rational answer on PalTalk about that a couple of weeks ago. The surveys revealed that some of the holdings were not likely to produce any valuable minerals. The costs of maintaining the mineral rights agreements are very high. They eliminated some locations from their lists of interest and sold off the rights or termninated them to save money.

******************************************

I am willing to bet that there is some kind of close connection between the controlling shareholders of both CMKX and SGGM (St George). From where is SGGM getting the funds for that deal? Is it going to be from one hand to another and then back again?

*******************************************

A: No one knows that yet except the prinicipals involved. I don't doubt that there are maneuvers going on with SGGM but with Roger involved, I also don't have any doubts that they are ethical, above board and designed to be a part of the ultimate merger.

*****************************************

Why, if UC and CMKX want to focus on exploring for diamonds (as stated), have they now given $1 mil to CIM for a share of the so-called profits?

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A: I really don't know if you are talking about some new transaction or the old one. CIM was a place to safely park the old shareholders while Urban took on the NSS problems with CMKX. CIM apparently owns a zinc mining operation, and if Urban feels it is beneficial to invest another million in it, who am I to question his business decisions. He's been making a lot more money than you or I, so I guess I'll just trust his business acumen more than mine or yours.

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Forgot, this noahltl:
RATTLE, RATTLE, RATTLE!!!!

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A: I knew I'd heard that some place before. Huh, there it is again.

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Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
Money...It's not like legal just came up with "ridiculous assumptions". We do have the Shore Gold PR from today. We also have the aereal survey. To call legal's assumptions ridiculous, is ridiculous. He should be able to share his thoughts without being called ridiculous.

OK first of all, my comment wasn't diretcted at legal. He posted a post from another board. My response was to the post from the other board.

Second, we may have aerial results and we may have "hundreds" of anomalies, but to say that we may have 140,000 acres of pure kimberlite does sound a little far fetched for my taste.

I'm too tired to do any kind of math here and I have to drive into a tropical storm tomorrow so good night to you all.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
By the way Wallace, don't expect me to keep answering all of your "manifestos". You apparently have a lot more time on your hands to think up this stuff, than I do to answer them.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Money_Penny,

Safe drive!
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noahltl's responses were as expected. Said nothing of substance concerning all the convoluted moves with and around CMKX. More excuses, trust and spin!
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Money_Penny,

Safe drive!


And your "questions" weren't what all on this thread have come to expect?

If you don't want my answers, don't ask the question.

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Posted by noahltl on :
 
Since you like picking bill's posts apart, here's another one you can work on:


De Beers & Economic Diamond Mines in the FALC

By: bill19336
15 Aug 2004, 09:14 PM EDT
Msg. 12644 of 12660
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***BASHERS. here's some facts for you.***

Part I.
Read the article below and follow the links to get an idea of what the future holds for us.

"De Beers extends support"
The StarPhoenix (Saskatoon) 2004
June 29, 2004

Here's the link to the entire story: http://www.realestateappraisals.com/News/FLC0604.PDF

Below are some highlights from the article:

The president of Kensington Resources Ltd. Robert McCallum says that De Beers has committed $6 million in exploration activity from now until March 31.

Furthermore, he sees an increased interest by De Beers in finding out how many other, high-quality kimberlite bodies exist near the four bodies that have already been partially drilled during the past five years by the joint venture. He sees De Beers shifting priorities and possibly going in a completely new direction.
(I will speculate on the reasons for this change in part II.).

The four main kimberlite bodies identified by the joint venture already contain an estimated 369 million tonnes at an average modelled grade of 10 carats per hundred tonne, according to information De Beers has supplied to Kensington.
(CMKX has hundreds of anomalies.)

He says there are enough huge kimberlite bodies within the land the Fort a la Corne joint venture has staked that it could be possible for a central processing plant to be fed from three to four giant open pits, where the total tonnage of kimberlite could approach a billion tonnes.
(CMKX owns millions of acres of newly surveyed land.)

Using De Beers' computer-modelled estimates of $146 per carat from the 79-million-tonne kimberlite deposit, McCallum says each tonne of kimberlite in that deposit could be worth about $26 Canadian.

On the cost side, he says open-pit methods such as those used in the Fort McMurray tar sands could easily be kept around the $15-per-tonne mark. Considering the huge size of the deposit, an operating margin of $10 a tonne would make for a highly profitable large-scale diamond mine even if the grades are low by Canadian standards, McCallum said.
(Open pit is the fastest, cheapest and cleanest way to mine for diamonds).

As great as the above referenced material sounds, it's important to realize the constraints Urban and Roger are under. As I said in post 12589 (click on http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB00206&read=12589 ), Urban has to maintain the perceived scarcity of diamonds. De Beers has been hugely successful as a result of their "benevolent manipulation" of the diamond market. Thus, the last thing we need is for someone to "flood" the market with diamonds.

If Urban's ultimate plan is to transform the diamond industry from a cartel-controlled to a free market structure, we will need to be patient. I'm not saying we will not do well in the short term, I'm just saying that we will do incredibly well in the long term.

Good Luck

N O T E S:
1. Just for kicks, take a look at the map that compares CMKX's, De Beer's and Shore Gold's holdings in the FALC region.

2. Then consider each company's holdings in the FALC region.
CMKX = 2 million acres...............De Beers =58,000 acres................ Shore Gold = 30,000 acres

3. Now extrapolate some numbers from the figures De Beers has published.

4. It's about long term VALUATION, not OS, not Naked Shorts!!!

5. Don't allow bashers to confuse and frighten you, review the facts that the true longs have posted and decide for yourself.

6. The Punchy Palooka has no facts, he only promises to give us facts and has said he will apologize if he's wrong.
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB00206&read=12644

By: bill19336
15 Aug 2004, 10:31 PM EDT
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***Some more facts for bashers***

Part II

De Beers extends support part II.

Why do you suppose that De Beers just invested another 6 million in the Fort a La Corne Region?
In my opinion, it's because they know the center of the diamond universe will soon be located in the FALC region. I outline a few of the reasons for the shift from Africa to Canada below:
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First, read the transcript of a radio interview with Dr. Mark Hutchison, the world renowned geologist.

*Dr. Hutchison: (quote) ""Well, Fort ΰ la Corne is actually internationally known as being quite an exceptional area for kimberlites and for diamonds. And, as I say, it sets up an internationally-known area for large kimberlites and kimberlites of significant size and because they're diamondiferous, there’s a potential for very large quantities of diamonds"". (end quote).

-In my opinion, it is well known that many of De Beers older African mines appear to be on the brink of being "mined out".
http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=50759
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Below are some of the advantages that will turn Canada's Fort a La Corne region into the capital of the mining world:

*A stable political situation in Canada is a major savings since there is no need to appease petty dictators. Additionally, the need for extreme security measure to prevent attacks by political dissidents is not necessary.

-The African nations continue to suffer the instability of war and a fluid political situation (e.g., Sierra Leone, Botswana, etc.)

Follow the link below to read about De Beers current problems. http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=64937
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*The Canadian government is currently attempting to lure mining companies to it's mineral rich areas in an effort to create jobs. Some companies have even been able to receive tax concessions from the regulatory authorities.

-The African nations continue to be an obstacle to the mining companies working there.
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*The necessary infrastructure already exists (i.e., roads, housing, airports, etc.)

-In remote locations expensive support networks must be built from scratch.

Follow the link below and read about the city De Beers built. http://edwardjayepstein.com/diamond/chap2.htm
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*Canada is right next door to the largest diamond market in the world, that is, the United States.

-The shear distance from Africa to the largest target market adds an expensive layer of cost to the distribution system.
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*The diamonds from Canada can be certified to be "conflict free".

-The world has been made aware of the suffering caused by illegal "blood diamonds".
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*Since Canada has always had an abundance of experienced workers, the operating costs in Canada can be kept competitive while at the same time providing a living wage and decent working conditions to it's workforce. Additionally, it has always been difficult to lure the best and the brightest to the remote regions of the African continent where mining is done.

-The inhuman conditions some mining companies force upon their workers in Africa are an abomination to mankind.
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*Canada's central location will make the movement of foodstuffs and equipment to the site much cheaper.

-Shipping costs become a consideration when everything must be shipped to a remote site (e.g., housing, heavy equipment, food, labor, etc.)
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*Canada's FALC region is rich in other minerals.

-I bet Urban hasn't forgotten this fact.
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Last but not least, don't forget that little old CMKX has hundreds of surveyed and filtered anomalies on the claims it controls. Patience is the only missing ingredient!!!

Good Luck and it's all speculation
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB00206&read=12648



 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Look up a post. It isn't hatred of the stock, it is the dislike of the treatment people get for just offering a differing opinion. I'd say the universal "you", has brought it on themselves here.

"You" was me right?Oh well I can't help but be for the underdog sometimes.It has worked out for me in this case.1/2 my 6 mill. shares are free.Wish I would have waited a little longer to sell some when I did or they all would have been.

Allways been for the underdog I guess.That's why I'm pulling for the Bears over the Pack this weekend by one point.You here that Upman?lol.I'm gone.But will look for your reply UP.LOL

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited September 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
noahltl wrote:
By the way Wallace, don't expect me to keep answering all of your "manifestos". You apparently have a lot more time on your hands to think up this stuff, than I do to answer them.
---------------------------------------------
Well, noahltl, it's like this. When it comes to CMKX or any other security, someone has to think up the pertinent questions that others ignore and refuse to seek out the related facts. If there are no related facts available, then at least the question is out there so someone can see the whole picture so as to make a more prudent trading decision. Notice I did not say "investment" decision. I do not consider CMKX an investment of any kind...just something to trade or not to trade.

PS: Cannot be bothered with your latest manifesto! As usual, scroll right through them.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
No, child, you is the universal you, not you in particular. You in this case are the longs, believers, enforcers, promoters, defenders of Urban, Roger, Melvin, and the collective CMKX characters and players.

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
"You" was me right?Oh well I can't help but be for the underdog sometimes.It has worked out for me in this case.1/2 my 6 mill. shares are free.Wish I would have waited a little longer to sell some when I did or they all would have been.

Allways been for the underdog I guess.That's why I'm pulling for the Bears over the Pack this weekend by one point.You here that Upman?



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by highwaychild:
quote:
That's why I'm pulling for the Bears over the Pack this weekend by one point.You here that Upman?

I hear it but I don't like it one bit. No true American would ever root against the Packers! I'll spot you 9 points for 100 thousand shares of CMKX. What is that, about a 30 dollar bet?

 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Good night, y'all. Sleep well.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Posted by: zeninvestor32
In reply to: gump90 who wrote msg# 13060 Date:9/16/2004 8:35:19 PM
Post #of 13093

GUMP90

I'd be a fool if I wasn't concerned. Nobody likes going this length of time without the nuts and bolts of what's going on behind the scenes. I was hoping to have heard it by now. But we haven't. Oh well. As I have said, the company is asking a LOT of us in terms of placing our faith in them. And we are delivering. People have held strong. Now it's the company's turn to deliver. And deliver they must. I have said from the start that the shorts will play this out as long as they can to take advantage of investor impatience and the supreme knowledge that things always take longer than anyone would like. And I am simply commenting that we are entering a critical period that will test EVERYONE'S faith. This IMO is why the shorts have stuck around this long. I think they're as curious as the longs to see Urban's hand. Am I confident? I'm not sure that I've ever been "confident" about the outcome. I think I've always been "comfortable". Certainly all the evidence gives me a great deal of comfort in the bet I've placed. But without knowing more than is publicly available, I'm reserving the "confidence" until after we see Urban's hand.

I believe in this company 100%.
I believe the naked shorting is happening to an extensive degree 100%.
I believe Roger was brought on board to help the company rid itself of the naked short and bring a fantastic piece of property to proper valuation 100%.
I believe I could also be 100% wrong.

But that is what I believe. And that is the difference between beliefs and knowledge. I do not KNOW what will happen. But I BELIEVE we will do very well indeed. All I'm pointing out is that we are getting ready for CRUNCHTIME. And everyone better be READY.

PS You got a link on that shore gold financing PR?


Z

As always, these are my personal opinions.

Hopefully nobody in here is investing anything but "fun" money that they can afford to gamble with.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=4058277
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
Is this a reasonble thing to ask a company to do in light of current activity? I don't see how it could affect any legal things. Might alert compitition, that's why ask for only documents at drill site. What does this say if not answered ?
= = = = = = =
[QUOTE]Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
[B]DW
The filings @ registars office are current to about 3 days.
Drilling permits have been granted, in whose name ?
Maybe this is something we could reactivate and get this small answer?
- - - -
JUST eMAILED MELVIN
Would it be possible to scan & post the claim & permit to website where current drilling is being done ?
VAN
= = = = = = = =
DAY 1-No responce might be away from ofice?


 


Posted by netsec on :
 
*******************************************
I believe in this company 100%.
I believe the naked shorting is happening to an extensive degree 100%.
I believe Roger was brought on board to help the company rid itself of the naked short and bring a fantastic piece of property to proper valuation 100%.
I believe I could also be 100% wrong.
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This guy is nuts. When you believe in something 100% there is no room for "non-belief".

I have a question for someone more knowledgeable with this stuff. Lets say there is 800billion shares sitting out there (I believe worst case). 800b$x.0003 = $240million. Why wouldn't DeBeers come in and just buy up every single share, even if they had to go to .0007 on them, if these claims are as good as a lot of people are saying? They can afford it (especially after they bought the shares and started mining) and it would allow them to continue their monopoly on the diamond market.

And I am not a basher nor pumper of this stock. I bought in late and I am sitting on 2.75million for the bargain price of .000564 (averaged down). Just want to hear some theories and answers to my question.

Thanks.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
netsec,

The answer is obvious and I am guessing you already know it.

CMKX IS NOT WORTH IT!!!!!
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Netsec, IMO, Urban has never given up 51% control of the company. If DeBeers started buying up all of the shares, those of us who are long would never give up our shares until the price reached at least pennies. Some would hold out for dollars. So the pps would rise to where it was an astronomical amount, and they would still not have control of the company.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
I found this interesting. It was written in Feb of 2004
http://www.smallcapmedia.com/articles/diamonds/diamonds-february-03-2004.html

Renowned Diamond Stock Pundit John Kaiser Announces His Top 2004 Picks At Annual Vancouver Mining Investment Conference

By By Marc Davis, Managing Editor
February, 2004


A record crowd of about 4,500 investors packed out this year’s Vancouver Resource Investment Conference at the Pan Pacific Hotel in Vancouver on January 25-26. And many of them came to hear renowned investment newsletter writer, John Kaiser.


The author of San-Francisco-area newsletter, The Kaiser Bottom Fishing Report, did not disappoint them with his typically insightful commentary. Widely-regarded as the pre-eminent diamond stock expert among his stock pundit peers, Kaiser was nonetheless quite circumspect this year. Emphasizing that diamond exploration is a painfully laborious process, he cautioned investors not to expect many exciting developments to unfold in 2004. But that’s not what everyone came to hear. They wanted to hear which specific stocks would beat the odds by becoming newsmakers. So Kaiser (almost grudgingly) listed off a few of his favourites.

They include Mountain Province Diamonds Inc. (TSX: MPV) – a long-time favourite of his. Last year, Kaiser told a standing-room only audience of about 500 people (much like this year’s attendance at his diamond presentation) that Mountain Province was arguably his top pick. It had “$5 to $10 potential” written all over it, he said at that time. This view was based on the likelihood that the diamond junior’s deep-pocketed joint venture partner, De Beers, would advance the AK Properties project (which includes the prized Hearne and 5034 pipes) a long way towards a commercial production threshold. But Kaiser’s high hopes were soon dashed and Mountain Province’s share price fell out of bed following De Beers’ announcement that the AK Properties project would be temporarily shelved.

Unfortunately, most of Kaiser’s other favourite diamond picks also failed to perform last year due to a commonality of underwhelming exploration results. But that’s the nature of hunting for diamonds. A typical timeline for an end result is usually eight to ten years. And Kaiser is always at pains to point this out to investors as a caveat to his usually cautious diamond recommendations.

So, once again Kaiser stood before a stock-tip-hungry audience, bravely announcing that this will likely be Mountain Province’s year to glitter again. Once more, he based his opinion on the likelihood of De Beers acquiescing to bankrolling a $25 million pre-feasibility study at Snap Lake. What would prompt this change of heart by De Beers? Well, Kaiser argues that the diamond cartel is sensing a growing need to find new ways to replenish its dwindling global diamond supplies. And the prospect of tapping into a ready supply of “bloodless” Canadian diamonds is too compelling to continue to dither over, Kaiser argues. So the Snap Lake deposit represents a good gamble for De Beers.

For the same reason, Kaiser also favours Kensington Resources Ltd. (TSX.V: KRT) and its neighbour in Fort a la Corne, Saskatchewan – Shore Gold Inc. (TSX.V: SGF). This is because of the advanced-stage of both companies’ adjoining diamond projects. And of course, there is also the fact that De Beers is partnered with Kensington and is keeping the door open with Shore Gold should the junior’s recently initiated 25,000-ton bulk sample begin to yield plenty of diamonds in excess of one carat.

Kaiser also notes that De Beers would have to come up with as much as $25 million to finally bring Kensington’s mammoth 140/141 twin pipe to the threshold of a production decision.

“It’s going to take that kind of money to determine if this billion-ton pipe has large, gem quality stones that are well-distributed throughout. It’ll take that kind of consistency to justify a future production decision,” he said.

Meanwhile, Shore Gold will have to come up with some impressive diamond counts of its own in the coming months, particularly in terms of size and value curves. That is what’s needed to get De Beers to open its chequebook with an offer the diamond junior won’t want to pass on.

Meanwhile, the processing of Shore Gold’s bulk samples will surely prove to be a time-consuming process and results are expected to be announced throughout 2004 “in dribs and drabs,” as Kaiser puts it. This could easily hold off a feasibility study decision until early next year. Speculators will no doubt cast their votes on the future prospects of a diamond mine at Fort a la Corne by reacting to each bulk sample announcement that trickles out with a flurry of buy and sell orders.

“This could make Shore Gold one of the most volatile stocks of the year,” Kaiser cautioned.

But investors with steely nerves may be inclined to stay the course with Kensington and Shore Gold when considering how important their respective prized pipes could prove to be for De Beers -- the ever-pragmatic diamond cartel.

“De Beers is ‘hot to trot’ to develop Canadian diamond mines…Their diamond production in Botswana and elsewhere is going to dry up at some point, not too many years from now. Remember this is a company that plans along a 100-year timeline,” Kaiser said.

“And Fort a la Corne has the ability to feed De Beers with diamonds for the next 50 years.”

Later, he told captivated listeners that his “dark horse” picks for 2004 include Dr. Chuck Fipke’s Metallex Ventures Ltd. (TSX.V: MTX) and its joint venture partner, Arctic Star Diamond Corp. (TSX.V: ADD). Kaiser pointed out that Fipke has the discovery of the $3 billion Ekati Diamond Mine to his credit and is arguably the best -- or one of the best – diamond hunters in the world. But after spending over $8 million in the remote Attawapiskat area of James Bay, Ontario, Fipke’s diamond project still remains shrouded in secrecy.

Fipke is definitely hot on the trail of potentially economic diamond deposits in the vicinity of De Beers’ prized Victor pipe – which is on track to become Canada’s next diamond mine. But how close he is to a major announcement is anyone’s guess, Kaiser mused.

“Fipke seems to have established that there is a generation of pipes in Attawapiskat with no magnetic anomalies -- or ones that are so subtle they don’t show up on airborne surveys,” he added.

“And he has some geochemistry that suggests large stone diamond potential.”

Another well-regarded junior, Pele Mountain Resources Inc. (TSX.V: GEM), is however moving along a much more aggressive timeline in Attawapiskat than the notoriously methodical Fipke. Pele Mountain is presently drilling some magnetic targets in the hope that Fipke’s theory is far from watertight. Kaiser likes Pele Mountain as a long shot that could surprise everyone with one or more diamondiferous kimberlite discoveries in early 2004.

Meanwhile, north of Canada’s tree line, a number of Kaiser’s other favourite diamond stocks are also busy spending millions of dollars on their own top diamond pipe prospects. These well-managed juniors include Diamondex Resources Ltd. (TSX.V: DSP), Diamonds North Resources Ltd. (TSX.V: DDM), Shear Minerals Ltd. (TSX.V: SRM), Dunsmuir Ventures Ltd. (TSX.V: DVV) and Stornoway Diamond Corp. (TSX.V: SWY). None of these stocks are expected to make any earth-shattering announcements this year but they all have enough sparkle in their respective exploration plays to keep the Great Canadian Diamond Rush alive and kicking.




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Posted by glassman on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dwman:
I found this interesting. It was written in Feb of 2004
http://www.smallcapmedia.com/articles/diamonds/diamonds-february-03-2004.html

Renowned Diamond Stock Pundit John Kaiser Announces His Top 2004 Picks At Annual Vancouver Mining Investment Conference

By By Marc Davis, Managing Editor
February, 2004

looks like he forgot to mention CMKX?????
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 

LURKER POLL: We know there are many who read the posts here, so I thought it would be interesting to hear from all of you. So while we wait, how about a post from each of you, at least telling us if you are long, short or somewhere in between. And any opinion if you want to express it.


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Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dwman:
[b]I found this interesting. It was written in Feb of 2004

looks like he forgot to mention CMKX?????


Yes, it does glass. That was one of the things that interested me. However, he obviously is not as astute as all of us longs. lol I'm still end til the end.



 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Noah, I am long til the end with 12+ million.
 
Posted by Esteban on :
 
Noah, I am long with 3,840,000. Avg price is .0007. I plan on holding for the duration.
Esteban
 
Posted by legal1082 on :
 
Hey, I'm Legal and pretty new to all this. I read about 100 times more than I post. I don't like to post to much because I'm not very educated on all this. I have short/medium and long range goals with this stock. Although new, I'm not moved to much by the bashers. However, I would like to see this company become a little more informative.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
If things work out with the lab tests,cmkx could be among those listed in the table below. The table format gets lost in the text copy. This is part of the full report downloadable from the link I listed earlier.

Table 2: Company Snapshots
Shares Treasury 12-Month Price
Company Symbol (millions) (millions) Range (6-Feb-02)
Ashton Mining ACA - T 48.7 (57.0 fd) $ 11.4 $ 0.49 - $ 4.30 $ 3.95
Blackstone Ventures BLV - V 10.0 (14.6 fd) $ 0.7 $ 0.03 - $ 0.34 $ 0.26
Cantech Ventures CCV - V 15.5 (21.5 fd) $ 0.1 $ 0.04 - $ 0.63 $ 0.19
Dasher Energy DHR - V 10.8 (14.6 fd) $ 0.1 $ 0.10 - $ 0.28 $ 0.20
Diamondex Resources DSP - V 26.0 (40.1 fd) $ 5.0 $ 0.50 - $ 2.02 $ 0.96
Intl. Samuel SAZ - V 7.9 (11.5 fd) $ 1.1 $ 0.08 - $ 0.50 $ 0.45
Navigator Exploration NVR - V 22.7 (40.0 fd) $ 0.5 $ 0.15 - $ 0.92 $ 0.52
Northern Empire NEM - V 10.3 (16.9 fd) $ 1.0 $ 0.12 - $ 0.91 $ 0.75
Pure Gold Minerals PUG - T 60.6 (70.6 fd) $ 0.3 $ 0.06 - $ 0.31 $ 0.26
Rhonda Corp. RDM - V 30.5 (41.0 fd) $ 2.2 $ 0.30 - $ 0.70 $ 0.50
Stornoway Ventures SWV - V 11.7 (18.5 fd) $ 1.6 $ 0.10 - $ 0.93 $ 0.97
Tahera Corp. TAH - T 304.9 (529.9 fd) $ 1.5 $ 0.11 - $ 0.22 $ 0.22
 


Posted by Meatcliff_buxtable on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:

LURKER POLL: We know there are many who read the posts here, so I thought it would be interesting to hear from all of you. So while we wait, how about a post from each of you, at least telling us if you are long, short or somewhere in between. And any opinion if you want to express it.


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I have been reading you guys post for a long time. some of it is very silly and juvenile. However a lot of it is very informative (positive and negative). I don't know much about the market and this is actually the first stock I have ever purchased. I just got a tip from my mortgage broker and it interested me. So I figured hey I'll buy 1 million shares at .0004 and let it ride. I guess I'm in for the long haul. I like what I see with the activity and even the trash talk leaves me with a gut feeling that there is something bigger going on here.

But anyway if it tanks .... big deal... I've pissed away more than $400 at Bars in New York. These are better odds than than Vegas.

Rock On CMKX!

[This message has been edited by Meatcliff_buxtable (edited September 17, 2004).]
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dwman:
[B]If things work out with the lab tests,cmkx could be among those listed in the table below. The table format gets lost in the text copy. This is part of the full report downloadable from the link I listed earlier.

OOOPS... Forget to point out that the data was from early 2002.
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
NOAH

Short, Mid and Long strategy here.

COMMENTS?
There are very few on this board that have an IQ higher then a parking meter. Either that or I am extremely naive on stocks in the sense that bashers, pumpers actually beleive that they can have a drastic impact ot this "lottery ticket" CMKX.
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by JEAL:
quote:
There are very few on this board that have an IQ higher then a parking meter.

Parking meter? Hmmm, Id like to think I could match wits with one. At least the old crank type. Some of those new digital ones though, I might lose that battle.
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:

LURKER POLL: We know there are many who read the posts here, so I thought it would be interesting to hear from all of you. So while we wait, how about a post from each of you, at least telling us if you are long, short or somewhere in between. And any opinion if you want to express it.


********************************************


I'm in with 26,625,000 shares @ 0.0005. Waiting to see when or IF I can cash out at least to break even. I doubt very seriously this company is going anywhere. Back in June it seemed like the stock of a lifetime... YEAH RIGHT! Not for the shareholders, it is for the Casavant crowd and all his cronies. Each week that has gone by there's this nagging feeling that there's something seriously wrong with this picture. This picture is "crooked" and needs straightening. Hmm.. 22 family members.. they could have thier own mafia!
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Upside -

LOL - at least you are keeping up with the times
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
And these so called PR's they constantly say that are "coming out next week". I think they all are trained to say that. Then we sit and wait... and wait. This is crazy!
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by JEAL:
quote:
Upside -
LOL - at least you are keeping up with the times

Yep, I'd definitely lose.
http://geography.about.com/library/photos/blzz28.htm


 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
NOAH

COMMENTS?
There are very few on this board that have an IQ higher then a parking meter. Either that or I am extremely naive on stocks in the sense that bashers, pumpers actually beleive that they can have a drastic impact ot this "lottery ticket" CMKX.


A parking meter? What's that? Is it kinda like a hitching post?
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by JEAL:
Yep, I'd definitely lose.
http://geography.about.com/library/photos/blzz28.htm


Is that what those things are. No wonder I could never get jaw breakers out of them.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
SGGM PR's info from another board:


bigD
Diamond Finder


member is offline

To Each His Own


Gender:
Posts: 68
Just talked to Vicki
« Thread started on: Today at 11:18am »

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
She called me back and I spoke with her briefly. I will make this quick (I have to get to an appointment). Vicki confirmed that she did say that they would be releasing a hadful of pr's this week. She then said that due to some security issues pertaining to the company web site that the release dates were pushed back a little. Apparently somone put up a false website and they had to get that taken care of (makes you think why somebody would do that). She assured me that they have a "handful of pr's" and she said that they would be out today or the first part of next week. I meant to ask more questions but I was pressed for time. I hope this helps.

D
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
3.5 millions at average 0.0001
well average because I bought 1.5 million then I got excited and purchased another 2 millions at the same price. long and strong.
 
Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
While I am here - where is my friend Byrd?
I hope he is not banned again but I don't think he did anything to be banned. May be he is back to school....and how about Debi?
 
Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
Noahltl....4,000,000 long and strong. Love your posts, thanks. M

------------------
MAF
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by TradingWizard:
quote:
While I am here - where is my friend Byrd?
I hope he is not banned again but I don't think he did anything to be banned. May be he is back to school....and how about Debi?

Hi TW,
My hunch is that Byrd got his wings clipped again. He had a few offensive posts the other day (they we're funny though)and probably got banned for the fourth time. Debi is now an administrator on the Christian Traders board and I think she got tired of all of the fighting here. She still checks in from time to time.

 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Looks like Kensington is serious about Fort a la Corne.
Victoria, B.C., Wednesday, September 8, 2004 - Kensington Resources Ltd. (the "Company") announces that it has entered into an agreement with Loewen, Ondaatje, McCutcheon Limited to act as agent for a private placement financing of CDN $6 million on a commercially reasonable best efforts basis.

CDN $3 million of the offering will consist of flow-through common shares at a price of CDN $1.30 per flow-through share and CDN $3 million of the offering will consist of non flow-through units at a price of CDN $1.05 per unit. Each non flow-through unit shall consist of one non flow-through common share and one half of one share purchase warrant. Each whole warrant shall entitle the holder thereof to purchase one additional non flow-through common share for a period of eighteen months from closing, at a price of CDN $1.25 for the first twelve-month period and CDN $1.55 for the last six-month period. The gross proceeds of the offering of the flow-through shares will be used for Canadian Exploration Expenses which qualify as a Flow-Through Mining Expenditure (as such terms are defined in the Income Tax Act (Canada)). The proceeds of the offering of the units will be used for exploration programs on the Fort ΰ la Corne Diamond Project in Saskatchewan and for general corporate purposes. http://www.kensington-resources.com/s/NewsArchives.asp?ReportID=88013&_Type=News-Archives&_Title=Kensington-Announces-6-Million-Private-Placement-Financing


 


Posted by Pappy on :
 
13.6 MIL MOST LONG SOME AS WE GO NORTH!!! CMKX ROCKS

 
Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by TradingWizard:
Hi TW,
My hunch is that Byrd got his wings clipped again. He had a few offensive posts the other day (they we're funny though)and probably got banned for the fourth time. Debi is now an administrator on the Christian Traders board and I think she got tired of all of the fighting here. She still checks in from time to time.

Hi Upside, and thanks.
Oh boy, I hope his IP address did not get blocked - I do to have to admit he did spice up the tread a lot; and good for Debi - yahh me too I am getting tired of this fighting so been in the lurking mode and check in once in a while....I can see yourself and Will still quite regular here...
 


Posted by user095263 on :
 
think he's back to school cuz he was pickin' up books the other day...
hasnt been online as far as i can tell...
~BB

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by TradingWizard:
Hi TW,
My hunch is that Byrd got his wings clipped again. He had a few offensive posts the other day (they we're funny though)and probably got banned for the fourth time. Debi is now an administrator on the Christian Traders board and I think she got tired of all of the fighting here. She still checks in from time to time.

[edit: cant stand typos]

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Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Upside wrote:
"He had a few offensive posts the other day (they we're funny though)...
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They weren't the least bit funny! As a matter of fact, they were "gross and vile" as usual and as others noted. Upside does have an interesting sense of humor.

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Posted by user095263 on :
 
uh, scratch that, he's been banned...
~BB

[edit, as a favor: to Trading Wizard..
Can you just post a small post,lol, for me, adressed to her saying someone who calls you 'WizarDRESS' says 'hello'? Please? I would appreciate that quick post!]

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Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Wallace #1:
quote:
They weren't the least bit funny! As a matter of fact, they were "gross and vile" as usual and as others noted. Upside does have an interesting sense of humor.

Oh sure they were. The fact that they were directed at you made them even funnier.


 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Seems the past or maybe present owner of sggm won an award. Wonder if he is involved with us?

quote:

Press Release:
DIAMOND DISCOVERER WINS HIGHEST AWARD
ST. JOHN'S, NL (April 12, 2004)
The Geological Association of Canada (GAC) is extremely pleased to announce that Dr. Stewart L. Blusson, Arcon Minerals Ltd. Vancouver BC is the 2004 winner of the pre-eminent Logan Medal. The medal has been awarded annually since 1964.


The Logan Medal is the highest award of the Geological Association of Canada and is presented to an individual for sustained, distinguished achievement in Canadian earth science. Dr. Blusson was chosen for exemplary achievement in geological mapping and exploration, for his belief in North American diamonds, for his persistence in successfully conducting innovative diamond exploration, for the launch of a new Canadian industry and for his outstanding generosity to his science.

Dr. Blusson was born in Vancouver in 1938. He completed his geology degrees at the University of British Columbia and the University of California at Berkeley. His dissertation was on the geology and origin of tungsten deposits in the Flat River area along the NWT-Yukon border, including the Cantung Mine.

His Ph.D. work launched a career with the Geological Survey of Canada (GSC) from 1966 to 1981. His thorough familiarity with structural geology and the relationships between geological strata led to superb maps and to greatly enhanced understanding of mineral potential.

Stewart’s research played a role in the discovery of many occurrences of gold, copper, zinc, lead and other metals in Canada and the US. During the 1970s, he even learned to fly fixed-wing aircraft and helicopters, to better carry out his fieldwork!

His best-known achievement is his role with Chuck Fipke in discovering diamonds in Canada’s north - an achievement made possible by his tremendous foresight, scientific leadership, and enormous commitment and perseverance.

As early as 1969, Stewart believed in the idea of Canadian diamonds. While leader of a GSC crew in the Yukon, he reasoned that diamonds occur on every continent that has a large Precambrian shield and that Canada should be no exception. But recent glaciation made exploration difficult. Chuck Fipke was a member of that crew and he was deeply impressed by Stew’s arguments.

A decade later, Stew and Chuck launched a diamond exploration program in British Columbia and they continued their search in 1980 in the Northwest Territories. Later that year they shifted east to Blackwater Lake where De Beers was already exploring. With insight into glacial history and the Canadian Shield as the likely source for indicator minerals in the area, they had the persistence to follow the indicator mineral trail 700 km east to Lac de Gras over the ensuing decade.

The property that they staked with their partners, precipitating the largest rush in North American exploration, became the Ekati Mine. The annual production of this important mine, along with that of the new Diavik Mine, will reach 15 million carats by 2006. With a value of about US$1.5B, this will put Canada into third place in world diamond production.

Stew Blusson’s superb application of sophisticated science to the search for minerals has provided immense economic and scientific benefit to Canada. In 1998, he made a very large donation to his alma mater, the University of British Columbia, in support of research.

GAC President Harvey Thorleifson will present the award to Dr. Blusson during the GAC Awards Luncheon on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 at the annual GAC-MAC conference at Brock University in St. Catharines, Ontario.


For more information contact:



 
Posted by dwman on :
 
This link may already have been posted about Shore Gold's find.
http://www.stockhouse.com/news/news.asp?tick=SGF&newsid=2443832
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Upside
Member posted September 17, 2004 15:50
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originally posted by Wallace #1:

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They weren't the least bit funny! As a matter of fact, they were "gross and vile" as usual and as others noted. Upside does have an interesting sense of humor.
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Oh sure they were. The fact that they were directed at you made them even funnier.
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Response speaks for itself. No further comment.



 


Posted by noahltl on :
 


LURKER POLL: We know there are many who read the posts here, so I thought it would be interesting to hear from all of you. So while we wait, how about a post from each of you, at least telling us if you are long, short or somewhere in between. And any opinion if you want to express it.


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Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Wallace #1:
quote:
No further comment.

How many times have we heard that before?

 


Posted by Flattop1 on :
 
Noah 12Mil + and a long time lurker. Plan to keep 75% long and play the rest. As for the bashers, you haven't discouraged me. You've actually made me a stronger investor by not supporting your statements. Thanks.
 
Posted by Prdponce on :
 
Noah

1 Mil @ .0003. I will hold till a least a nickel or I will loose it all.

$300.00 big deal.

Got to see the end to this SAGA good or bad

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Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
I was thinking the same in my mind

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by Wallace #1:
Oh sure they were. The fact that they were directed at you made them even funnier.



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Has anyone heard anything more about the possible debate between The Green Baron and Stock Patrol?
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Just found this Upman.

http://christiantraders.com/thegreatdebate/index2.html


About the Bears Pack game,your "bet", I was rollin' by your response.I'll have my people talk to your people on that.LOL
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Hey, thanks highway! I'm gonna have to do some surgery on my computer at work though. I had it built just for work hence, no sound card or speakers. Best Buy run in my immediate future. Keep in touch on the Packer/Bear stock bet!

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Posted by gmac78 on :
 
NOAH,

6 Mil and holding as long as I want to!!!

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gmac
 


Posted by slpj1960 on :
 
23 million in two accounts. 13 million at .0001 average and 10 million at .0003. I will treat this stock just like the grape wine must that I just started to ferment in my basement. I will probably start tasting both as time ticks on, but will save plenty for when they both have aged well.
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
6,000,000 here staying as long as the pps keeps going up. losing some along the way.
 
Posted by HarryHar on :
 
Something around 20Mil shares 75% for long.
 
Posted by case on :
 
I'm still holding, although I don't
have as many shares as you guys.
(Heck what FUN would
the party be if I wasn't in!!)
As for LONG or short I play by ear


CMKM Diamonds - CMKX and UCAD are pleased to invite you, its shareholders, to a party to be held in Las Vegas, October 29th to 31st 2004. Also, the auto racing is on the same weekend, featuring CMKXtreme funny car.
(Race Tickets & Information Click)

This event promises to be very exciting and one to REMEMBER FOR A LONG TIME. Bring your family and friends for a fun filled weekend with the management, staff and fellow shareholders of our companies.

PS: You guys have to come and see me win my new car

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Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Posted above:
"This event promises to be very exciting and one to REMEMBER FOR A LONG TIME. Bring your family and friends for a fun filled weekend with the management, staff and fellow shareholders of our companies."
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That first sentence sounds very much like one of CMKX's PRs. It would seem to me they should, instead, be holding a shareholders' meeting and letting them vote on matters pertaining to CMKX activities.

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Posted by case on :
 
Wallace#1:
Winning the car is the important part
Every thing else will fall into place!
So, are you comming?
(Heck, I'll even buy you a whiskey sour)

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Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
case,

Thanks for the offer on the whiskey sour. Very kind of you.

No, I definitely will not be there.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Heck if we could ever get Wallace there, I'd buy him a whiskey sour.
 
Posted by case on :
 
Wallace#1
You can even bring the kids

CMKX and UCAD have included the kids in the fun in Las Vegas.
*

Swimming
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Bowling
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Movie
*

Kids Party Saturday Night
Sounds like a BLAST to me!!!
 


Posted by Damian on :
 
6,000,000 and strong!!!!
 
Posted by case on :
 
Wallace#1
I'm getting OLD, I have to go to bed!!!!

See You In Vegas!!

42 Days to Party Time!

 


Posted by newbe on :
 
15 mil--til hell freezes over--Vegas?????
But a new car would be great!!!
GLTA
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
noahltl wrote:

Heck if we could ever get Wallace there, I'd buy him a whiskey sour.
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Who's going to pay for my bodyguards? LOL

You don't think I am about to trust anyone on this thread not to accost me, do you?
LOL

Now, I have a few things to do before I hit the sack like "case". Good night.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
It's the weekend, good time for RUMORS. Here's one I actually heard first hand today on Paltalk. Oldepro is a trusted poster there, not a wild-eyed crazy. He speaks to Melvin frequently, and I don't think would blow that relationship, so I put a lot of trust into this one. At least that Melvin truly said it to oldepro.

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UC SAID SHARE RETIREMENT ONGOING (PalTalk)

I just heard on PalTalk that UC told Melvin:

"Yes, Melvin, I'm buying every share I can."

oldepro gave this voice message on PalTalk (about 5:38 PM ET, Sept. 10/04) and said that Melvin specifically said that this info could be put out publicly.

UC's answer (above) was given when Melvin asked, on behalf of oldepro, if UC was still retiring shares.

Speculation continues on PalTalk that this is the reason the OS number has not been given (because the OS will not be known until retirement is completed), and that retirement of shares may go on right up to the last moment possible.

This is very good news if it is true!

IMO

oldepro just repeated this information again today on PalTalk at about 6:23PM ET. The only difference I noticed was this time he said:

"Yes, Melvin, I'm retiring every share I can."

 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Only believe what you read in a PR. Seems like Urban has been telling us about share retirement for quite some time.


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dave: I heard this on PalTalk twice today.

BTW, oldepro also reported, when he asked Melvin if he could bring this information to the board, Melvin said:

"Absolutely, I have nothing to hide."

UC has also said to read the PRs. What do these PRs tell you:

Casavant Mining Kimberlite International Announces Retirement of 1.8 Billion Shares
Jan 9 2004 10:05AM ET http://snipurl.com/95cd

Casavant Mining Kimberlite International Announces Retirement of 6 Billion CMKM Shares of Stock
Sep 30 2003 9:01AM ET http://www.companyreporter.com/cn/cn.php?ID=355

Casavant Mining Kimberlite International Announces Retirement of 9,020,371,427 CMKM Shares of Stock
Oct 10 2003 10:51AM ET http://snipurl.com/95cg

Casavant Mining Kimberlite International Announces Retirement of Another 4.4 Billion Shares for a Total of 13,420,371,427 CMKM Shares of Stock to Date
Oct 20 2003 8:30AM ET http://snipurl.com/95ch (scroll down to yellow highlighted section)

Casavant Mining Kimberlite International Announces Update of Magnetic Work for Drilling and Retires over 20 Billion Shares of CMKM Stock to Date
Nov 6 2003 11:32AM ET http://snipurl.com/95cm (scroll down to yellow highlighted section)

Casavant Mining Kimberlite International Announces That the Company Has Officially Retired 16.5 Billion Shares Back to the Treasury
Dec 17 2003 4:17PM ET http://snipurl.com/95cn (scroll down to yellow highlighted section)



 


Posted by rivercity on :
 
noah, long time lurker here, 5 millon, 3mil loooooooooong, 2 mil to play all at .0001 feb. 04. have bought and sold for small profits a couple times. NOTE to wally sometimes you resemble those nasty retorts. you bring a lot of knowledge to this board but use it stupidly. seems to me your intelligence far exceeds your your ability to put it to good use. i'm long on CMKX.... RIVERCITY. P.S. WALLY NO NEED TO RESPOND,YOU ARE JUST CHEAP ENTERTAINMENT...RC
 
Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
quote:

every share I can


The trick here is how many can he?
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by rivercity:
quote:
NOTE to wally sometimes you resemble those nasty retorts. you bring a lot of knowledge to this board but use it stupidly. seems to me your intelligence far exceeds your your ability to put it to good use.

I wish I'd have said that. Sums up my feelings exactly.
 


Posted by will on :
 
"use it stupidly"

He reports his findings, others use it.

It began long ago with Wallace taking the position CMKX is a scam. A stock to be traded, not held. He was attacked personally for his views. His knowledge, skill, ability, to to find negative information about CMKX makes no difference now. Labeled a basher, do you really think he is a paid basher? I believe he is a guy that was on the wrong side of most people's hopes here, and was assaulted personally, and defended himself. The whole situation evolved into personal bullcrap. Makes 0 differenc now what information is brought to this board because people will see it as being stupid or wise, based on their analysis of it. It will be stupid if it goes against the popular opinion and wise if it doesn't.

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NOTE to wally sometimes you resemble those nasty retorts. you bring a lot of knowledge to this board but use it stupidly. seems to me your intelligence far exceeds your your ability to put it to good use.
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I wish I'd have said that. Sums up my feelings exactly.


 


Posted by will on :
 
noah wrote:

"It's the weekend, good time for RUMORS. Here's one I actually heard first hand today on Paltalk. Oldepro is a trusted poster there, not a wild-eyed crazy. He speaks to Melvin frequently, and I don't think would blow that relationship, so I put a lot of trust into this one. At least that Melvin truly said it to oldepro."

"Yes, Melvin, I'm buying every share I can."
"Yes, Melvin, I'm retiring every share I can."

Now not even the most zealous stock holder can put much store in this. Talk about open ended. Buying every share I can, that could be as little as none, it can be said, well I said "can", and for a million, (excuses), reasons, the amount was 0. Same with he retiring.

..........but Melvin said it!
Would anyone believe this guy by now?
Mt. St. Helens
There is not 400B O/S, (right there is more than that)
Sample reports will be out in a PR next week, (said over a month ago)
I wish I could tell you what I am looking at on my desk, (byrd could do that justice with his twisted humor)

Nope! Not even the most wild eyed CMKX zombie could put any faith in this POS's lies.
 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
Sorry if this is old news as im not up to date on CMKX

I recieved a letter from my brokerage this week stating that im going to recieve restricted CIM shares.

it reads as follow

Corporate Action Notice
September 9 2004


Security Held: CMKX Diamonds Inc.
CUSIP: XXXXXXXXXX ( number edit out for security)
Corporate Action Event: Stock Distributtion
Record Date August 31 2004
Payable Date October 1 2004

TERMS AND CONDITIONS

We have recieved notification the the company has declaired a stock distribution, which is effected by the issuance to shareholders as of record date, 0.0256 of a restricted share of Casavant International Mining for each common share of CMKX Diamonds Inc. held, The status of fractional shares has yet to be determined.

TD Waterhouse.


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
the problem with the retiring of shares report is the a/s has been raised since those pr's. if your retiring shares why raise the a/s. as for being long, i say why not? anyone buying pinks or pennies is a gambler. yes you can daytrade or short term trade and make money if you smart & quick but even then why not have a few million shares of cmkx. anyone buying because the company is strong is braindead. it has all the markings of a scam. right down to getting a lawyer no matter who that lawyer is. you want your books in order you get an accountant not a lawyer. the catch is the other companies. there are a number of companies involved and a lot of money and shares has changed hands and yes they probably are all related in one way or another. but cmkx is too public and there are 2 many involved to be a scam. with the diamonds that are possible it could turn into a nice chunk of change. stock play of a lifetime went out the window with the o/s count unless you own 10's of millions of shares. cmkx owns the smallest amount of these claims now. whatever they find cmkx gets less then 20% of the total. the claims would have to be worth more then trillions to be the stock play of a lifetime with the o/s it has now but a few million shares just might turn in a hundred grand or more and that is definately worth the gamble
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
since it is the weekend lets see what the odds are on getting the ucad shares by friday. as the 24th is six days away. ameritrade told me 3 times the date was not set in stone. so who thinks the date will be changed?

i vote yes it will be changed and no word from cmkx
 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
Will,
You are right. As of now I am long on CMKX, but I don't really trust Melvin.He LIED several times.
Someone asked him several weeks ago (on Paltalk) if they can take his word on O/S to be less than 400B. He said I never said that. Then somebody played the audio clip on IBC. He started BSing again.

May be they are retiring shares, may be the O/S will be less than 400B when its announced. But they are not going to announce until 2010

Good luck everyone..

quote:
Originally posted by will:

..........but Melvin said it!
Would anyone believe this guy by now?
Mt. St. Helens
There is not 400B O/S, (right there is more than that)
Sample reports will be out in a PR next week, (said over a month ago)
I wish I could tell you what I am looking at on my desk, (byrd could do that justice with his twisted humor)

Nope! Not even the most wild eyed CMKX zombie could put any faith in this POS's lies.



 


Posted by will on :
 
I agree, bill. Matter of fact, I agree with most everything you post. You articulate my thoughts regarding CMKX pretty accurately. Wish I could be as eleoquent as you are.

quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
since it is the weekend lets see what the odds are on getting the ucad shares by friday. as the 24th is six days away. ameritrade told me 3 times the date was not set in stone. so who thinks the date will be changed?

i vote yes it will be changed and no word from cmkx



 


Posted by bigeezee on :
 
Time to come to the surface. I've been lurkin' here for about a month (maybe a little less. my sense of time has been distorted by the wait for PR and the like.) Some times I find it difficult to maintain attention to some of the lengthy theories I have seen posted here. Some make sense to me, but others are difficult to understand or are not very credible due to their conjectured foundation. I would like to share my theory.
There are three guys where I work that are about 90M long @ .0001 in CMKX. These guys could fall in a barrel of s__t and come out smelling like a rose. It un-nerves me sometimes at their blind luck. Thus I feel comfortable with my 1.5M.
I know this theory is not at all financially based, but I think it is as good as any.
 
Posted by will on :
 
The old "fall into sh|t and come out smelling like a rose" theory. As good as any. I've heard it many time before.
Took you long enough to post it!
Good luck!

quote:
Originally posted by bigeezee:
Time to come to the surface. I've been lurkin' here for about a month (maybe a little less. my sense of time has been distorted by the wait for PR and the like.) Some times I find it difficult to maintain attention to some of the lengthy theories I have seen posted here. Some make sense to me, but others are difficult to understand or are not very credible due to their conjectured foundation. I would like to share my theory.
There are three guys where I work that are about 90M long @ .0001 in CMKX. These guys could fall in a barrel of s__t and come out smelling like a rose. It un-nerves me sometimes at their blind luck. Thus I feel comfortable with my 1.5M.
I know this theory is not at all financially based, but I think it is as good as any.


 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
Does noone have a responce to this ?
= = = = = = =
quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
Is this a reasonble thing to ask a company to do in light of current activity? I don't see how it could affect any legal things. Might alert compitition, that's why ask for only documents at drill site. What does this say if not answered ?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
[B]DW
The filings @ registars office are current to about 3 days.
Drilling permits have been granted, in whose name ?
Maybe this is something we could reactivate and get this small answer?
- - - -
JUST eMAILED MELVIN
Would it be possible to scan & post the claim & permit to website where current drilling is being done ?
VAN
= = = = = = = =
DAY 1-No responce might be away from ofice?
DAY 2-No responce< but had time for Paltalk



 


Posted by will on :
 
Van wrote:
"JUST eMAILED MELVIN
Would it be possible to scan & post the claim & permit to website where current drilling is being done ?
VAN
= = = = = = = =
DAY 1-No responce might be away from ofice?
DAY 2-No responce< but had time for Paltalk"

Hey Van, I don't know what kind of response you're looking for, but I'll offer one.
Melvin is a piece of crap! You may as well ask my dog a question.

 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
For those who complain about how long it takes to get back drill samples, here is a quote from United Carina concerning their drill results from 2000.

quote:

This work included a high resolution aeromagnetic survey on nine separate blocks of ground comprising some 60,000 acres in the fall of 2000, and a detailed gravity survey on the Smeaton project, which occurs north of the Fort a la Corne kimberlites and along the same northwest structural trend as the Snowden kimberlite cluster. The latter was optioned by Shane Resources Ltd. and drilled in December 2000. Analytical results are pending

Dont hold your breathe for results from us.

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Posted by will on :
 
I see, so that makes it all OK. We should be happy to not have heard anything. CMKX has the results, why not PR them.
Oh! They are either crap, or so good the competition can't know about them.
As always, there isn't any answers to this nonsense.
What a relief, someone hasn't published results for four years, so we should be happy with CMKX, makes perfect sense to me, right.
 
Posted by Grasshopper on :
 
Here's some reading for a lazy Saturday afternoon while watching football. These are posts from other boards that are a couple days old and probably already read by some of you...


CMKX: IS .25-.60 COMING SOON & WHY by houstontex1110

By: houstontex1110
16 Sep 2004, 01:27 AM EDT
Msg. 82045 of 82229
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CECIL RHODES, CRITICAL MASS, SGGM, AND HIGHER EXCHANGE

I feel everyone will gain valuable insight into this life changing company of ours by reviewing the past...a short glimpse into the history of South African diamond mining. Bear with me, I will endeavor to connect the 4 topics in the title of this post so that a clearer picture of CMMK emerges.

The following quotes are taken from, Gemstones, Time-Life Books, 1983:
CECIL RHODES

"The two brothers who owned the farm were happier with their luck, but for different reasons. Staitlaced Boers, descendants of the early Dutch settlers of South Africa, they had no interest in prospecting and were overwhelmed by the rush of prospectors who swarmed in from nearby diggings, tearing up the land in a frantic search for diamonds. To make the best of a hopeless situation, the brothers sold the farm (which they had purchased for 50 pounds 11 years earlier) to a mining syndicate for 6,300 pounds, and moved on in search of peace and quiet. In so doing, Johannes and Diedrich de Beers unwittingly gave up a pair of fabulously rich diamond deposits, one of which would become the site of the illustrious Kimberley mine. DO NOT REPEAT THEIR MISTAKE BY SUPPOSING THAT 126 TIMES YOUR INVESTMENT IS A GREAT RETURN, and it is time to move on. History repeats itself. You know why? Every generation commits the prior generation's follies.

Early miners around Kimberley found their stones in "yellow ground," weathered rock of a type later named kimberlite. When they reached the bottom of the soft yellow ground and struck the "blue ground" that lay underneath, many miners thought their claims had petered out. But Rhodes, having consulted the few geologists in the area, suspected that the blue ground was very likely as rich in diamonds as the yellow.

If you were Urban Casavant, wouldn't you have studied the life of Cecil Rhodes inasmuch as he was the original great diamond prospector, and richly successful. Perhaps you could learn a few things from that shrewd Rhodes. Urban noticed the 2 brothers overlooked what they truly possessed, and sold out. (Same as modern day Debeers in Canada giving up their nearly 2 million acres of claims.)

Cecil Rhodes also made use of the best geological expertise he could locate. Just as Urban is using the most sophisticated magnetic surveys which endowed him with the knowledge of the immense value of those 2 million acres.

As events would soon confirm and geologists would soon understand, he was right as was UC. The blue ground was simply hard kimberlite that had not yet been broken down or discolored due to weathering. Worried or bankrupt claim holders were giving up on all sides, but Rhodes, undaunted by the low diamond prices and the unproven value of the blue ground, began buying up claims, as quickly as he could scape together the money. He organized his growing holdings into a joint stock company by naming it the De Beers Mining Company, Limited. Gee, who repeated this process?

Rhodes status in Kimberley was growing. He had a way of breaking his long silences with sudden passionate monologues that seized the attention of everyone within earshot. He once startled a group of miners by shouting, "You think I am keen about money. I assure you I wouldn't care a d**n if I lost all I have tomorrow. It's the game I like." Umm, I distinctly recall UC saying that discovering another set of valuable claims is real excitement. UC loves the hunt for the next set of claims or the next mining company to buy out or to exchange shares. Wow, with a trillion dollar critical mass valuation, no telling how many deals are standing in the wing just as you read this.

Rhodes showed little interest in the Rand(South African gold fields) at first and had to be goaded by his associates into buying gold claims. Gold simply did not have the same appeal for him as diamonds. Although eventually he came to be one of the biggest mine owners and, ironically, made a great deal more money from gold than he ever did from diamonds. I bet that the book written about UC, and his strategic moves will not point out how he overlooked gold's eventual rise to $1,000 per ounce. He is demonstrating that gold projects have a definite place in his grand design.

Just as Rhodes created an empire of diamonds, originating in Africa, UC will create the new empire of diamonds, originating in Canada. I can already hear the criticism being hurled at me. Have you ever noticed that people see the top dog in any industry as sort of invulnerable? As human beings, we see structures, firms, and even people as enduring forever. What a fallacy. Everything, including the Rock of Gibralter will ultimately disappear. Review the major corporations which once were a proud member of the Dow, and no longer even exist. Debeer's corporate life cycle in now in the downswing and as CMKM's trillion dollar valuation is established, they will no longer be viewed as THE Diamond Company.

CRITICAL MASS AND SGGM

For an atomic blast to occur, the heavy hydrogen must exist in sufficient quantity for the chain reaction to occur. Urban's plan as quoted in a previous press release, is for some sort of amalgamation of mining companies due to the fragmented state of the mining industry. Well, that is a fine goal, and any competent business man understands economies of scale and so on, but why is this goal apparently, rarely accomplished? IMO, it's because no one firm has sufficient mineral wealth to attract a wide spectrum of mining interests to achieve a truly efficient conglomeration. CMKM in assembling IMO, a trillion dollar plus valuation, has packaged a critical mass. In short, they can give up 25% of their claims in deal making and as the saying goes, not sell the family farm. CMKM will have left over, plenty of mineral interests to not lose their competitive dominance in the future diamond industry. Importantly, from the perspective of their suitors, the diamond mining is widely held as the ace of spades in the industry. Why? The return on investment is just about as good as it gets, and the mines can endure for decades.

IMO, this high return on investment helps esplain the basis for these various companies joining our growing family. The Blusson brothers are known throughout the mining industry and could have naturally struck alternative deals. Why CMKM? For one thing, the brother with a PHd. specializes in diamonds, and reviewed the entire range of firms in the area. Obviously CMKM stands out at The future Diamond Company in Canada. And notice how the market has reacted to SGGM. Let's break it down in terms of numbers. Our 250 billion shares in SGGM at .50pps is hovering around $125 billion dollars. If you take 5% of 1.9 million acres, that works out to 95,000 acres valued at $125 billion. Debeers' 58,000 acres is valued at upto $80 billion. If you divide 58 into 80, and 95 into 125, the values are respectively, 1.4 and 1.31. Is the market believing that the upper Debeers valuation is justified? Let's see if SGGM rises just a little over 5o cents, striking a resistance level, and then reverses. Markets have a tendency to move upto the next resistance level and tests it. At the resistence price, some bulls lose faith, and bears begin to short. Then, which ever group with the greatest combination of funding and faith win out. I bet the resistance holds, and SGGM will at least not bypass 60cents,unless a forthcoming PR reveals new claims deposited into the SGGM shell. Have you ever seen a shell skyrocket as fast as SGGM?

I realize that a minority of posters will leap to the conclusion that SGGM is way overvalued. Why? Their reasoning is that if 5% of our claims are worth 125 billion, then logic dictates that 100% of CMKM is worth a ridiculoud 2.5 trillion. My counter argument is that you can not have it both ways. If one agrees with Debeers that their 58,000 acres is genuinely worth $80 billion, then consistency demands a CMKM valuation of 2.5 trillion. Unless of course one presupposes our land is inferior to Debeers on an acre by acre basis. No one can answer that with certainty, but based on our magnetic survey which revealed oreo size kimberlites and hundreds of anomalies, you are hard pressed to prove our inferiority. These posters must then attack Debeers $80 billion valuation as being excessive.

Besides, right next door in Canada, the oil sands are valued at least $7 trillion. Massive mineral deposits are worth trillions, and all evidence so far indicates CMKM with stunning vision locked up this regional mineral deposit.


AND THIS....
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=82045

BOOK VALUE AND HIGHER EXCHANGE

Are we to receive the SGGM's 250 billion shares as a dividend? My prediction is NO!!!! The simplest accounting equation is: Assets equals Liabilities plus Equity. That line says it all. Has anyone out there figured it out?

IMO, UC and Glenn figured the shares in SGGM would soar. How come? Have you noticed that UCAD shares have not experienced the same price explosion? IMO the market sees UCAD and CMKM as too intertwined to rely upon the exchange rate and cash payment. On top of that, Randel Williams lacks the fame and credibility of the Blusson brothers, especially the award winning PHd. brother. Once struck, the market judged that deal as reflecting a solid endorcement,and an arms length transaction. Next, the market went to work deciding how much the 5% undivided interest in CMKM is worth. The only standard available is the Debeers valuation.

At this point, it is irrelevant whether the market has over valued SGGM. The market has spoken and based upon generally accepted accounting principles, CMKM owns a stock investment valued at approximately $125 billion. Review the following: $125 billion = zero liabilities + equity. We may have several million in current liabilities, but also possess millions in cash which likely wipes out the liabilities. CMKM is left with an equity value of $125 billion. I know, what about our lands valuation? The exchanges, SEC, and generallly accepted accounting principles will readily accept the SGGM's pps, but question CMKM's valuation of our land. In the mining industry, proven ore tonnage rated at either grams or ounces per ton is established by literally hundreds of drill cores. That will take years of drilling.

Next, you take 500 billion outstanding shares and divide that by $125 billion equity, this produces a book value of .25 per share. Notice I am ignoring the additional 300 billion OS. Why? Whatever UC and Glenn have planned, the resulting effect on our company's value will be favorable. Perhaps another share exchange with another mining concern? Or maybe the shares will be used for a ratio exchange with UCAD or whoever, eventually cancelling out.

At any rate, once we step up to a higher exchange, and the market detects a book value of at least .10pps and we are trading at .0004, what do you think will happen? The pps will soar. What is currently preventing that rise? The big money, the experienced money... the smart money is waiting to see the financials, the share structure, and off that trashy pink sheet! Plus, shorty is still holding us down whether in cooperation with UC and Glen or not.

Once we hit the higher exchange, and the book value is calculated as at least 250 times of share value, the pps will explode upto at least book value. If the book value per the balance sheet is at least .25pps, the market will soar past that level reflecting a discounted valuation of the rest of CMKM's land. Perhaps double of BK? There you have it....50cents or 60cents pps. Am I 100% sure, this is how it will play out? Would I donate my right arm to medical science if I am wrong? No, not that sure.

AN OVERVIEW OF CMKM

Urban Casavant perhaps coincidentally copied many of Cecil Rhodes actions and strategies. And I feel that years ago as he and his family were stealthily staking the claims, and hiding their ownership, UC looked back at the former diamond empire builder with respect and excitement. Could he grab all these claims before Debeers figured out their mistake? He must have spent many nights tossing and turning.

Finally, we have heard over the past few months about the valuation of our land. The plan all along was to have the market help evaluate our claims through an exchange of mineral rights for the shares in a high profile company which was not being held down by shorty. High profile? The Blusson brothers are high profile and I bet there were hundreds of potential investors just waiting to see the next move by the brothers. As a matter of fact, I am also eagerly awaiting their next move. You want to bet they bring on line additional investments and perhaps before CMKM is listed on a higher exchange. If so, their pps will likely further rise, and our book value just might be .50pps. Folks imo, 50cents per share is right around the corner due to SGGM! And UC shared his prediction at the races that CMKM would be at least 50 or 60 cents without factoring in the short shares.

The bottom line is that the market place will take care of shorty. I repeatedly read posts stating that we had a volume of 9 billion shares today, and did not move! Of course shorty is part of the problem. However, one should not focus on the volume but the $volume, and most days our volume is only a few million attempting to move perhaps a $200 million market capitalization. That simply on average is insufficient $volume. The day CMKM opens up on the bulletin board IMO, and $volume is $20million or more, day after day, shorty will be swamped. Hey, if I had $100 million to invest, which I believe I will after CMKM fulfills its destiny, I would buy 10 million dollars of CMKM without a blink. Powerful money will cause this stock to soar. As the outrageously undervalued share price is made known, the mining newsletters will sound the alarm, and the multimillionaires will be buying billions of shares apiece.

In conclusion, the market just needs to know the right numbers, and as a normal consequence, one of the market truisms will materialize...an extremely undervalued security eventually is properly valued relative to similar securities.

P.S. "Empire builder and master of the diamond cartel, Cecil Rhodes is portrayed as a colossus standing astride Africa by Punch in 1892, at the peak of his power. "The vastness of his frame," wrote one historian, "was matched by the breadth of his vision." Urban Casavant seems determined to equal or exceed the achievements of Cecil Rhodes.

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Posted by glassman on :
 
now that is a HOOOT --UC is now the equal to Cecil Rhodes.....Big LOL
 
Posted by will on :
 
They sure do get carried away. Unbelievable !!!
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Thanks for your above post Will!
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Now with reference to Upside:

Upside previously wrote:
This thread is a mess. I hope you guys are enjoying yourselves. Here's an idea, talk about the stock or nothing at all. Kinda radical though, huh?

He also wrote:
It's to the point where any comment or opinion, positive or negative, is met with a personal attack. Just not worth the time anymore.

He also wrote (reference was to Wallace)(edited):
You have a knack of irritating people…

Wallace responded:
Up
Yep - and you irritate absolutely no one!

Upside wrote:
If I do, it's consequential due to my beliefs regarding CMKX. You on the other hand sure seem to have an agenda. You are here to irritate people and to your credit, you do a good job of it.

Upside also wrote (speaking of JBCak, byrdturd, blueeyedtraderboy…all the same person):
"He had a few offensive posts the other day (they we're funny though)...

Wallace responded:
They weren't the least bit funny! As a matter of fact, they were "gross and vile" as usual and as others noted. Upside does have an interesting sense of humor.

Upside wrote:
Oh sure they were. The fact that they were directed at you made them even funnier.

Today, Upside also wrote in response to rivercity’s personal attack another attack:
rivercity's post:
NOTE to wally sometimes you resemble those nasty retorts. you bring a lot of knowledge to this board but use it stupidly. seems to me your intelligence far exceeds your your ability to put it to good use.
Upside wrote:
I wish I'd have said that. Sums up my feelings exactly.
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Take note of Upside’s above two comments, first, “talk about the stock or nothing at all” and the other about any comment being met with personal attacks.

I have tried to avoid responding in kind, however, today Upside made another unseemly and downright rude comment.

Since when has football been “talk about stock or nothing at all”?

Since when did Upside get a permit to make “personal attacks”? If you look back, I did not respond in kind.

Since when with all his comments and statements above, did he earn liberties to irritate others with statements that have nothing whatsoever to do with his “beliefs regarding CMKX” or “about stock”?

And he has the brass b*lls to suggest someone else is a Dr Jekyl and Mr Hyde? BS!!! The above facts do not lie with reference to Upside. He is more Mr Hyde than Dr Jekyl.

This is what some of you posters respect?
Just a lot of digs, jabs, slurs and offensive remarks and innuendos?

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Posted by noahltl on :
 
It must be nearly Sunday. I see everyone is getting their hymnals out.
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Oh boy,here we go again.
Wallace
Upside hasen't been on a constant CMKX killin' spree as you have.

Upside hasn't called CMKX a 'cult'

Upside hasn't said all here wasn't even good enough to wipe our noses with your used tolit paper.

Upside hasn't said CMKX is a ship of fools.

All of witch (and alot left out) you have said.

He has expressed his concerns but never because of personal vedettas.

 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
A hell of a lot of good that will do most of the posters on this thread, noahltl! LOL
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
highwaychild wrote:

Upside hasn't said all here wasn't even good enough to wipe our noses with your used tolit paper.
Upside hasn't said CMKX is a ship of fools.

He has expressed his concerns but never because of personal vedettas.
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Suggest you pull up that old post about the toilet paper and you will likely find I did not refer to "all here", probably only certain ones, such as JBCak because of his gross and vile posts.

I do not recall saying CMKX is "a ship of fools", but it certainly makes a nice fitting shoe for folks here to put on.

Do not kid yourself about his personal vendetta. For some unknown reason, he has been directing it at me. I put up with it long enough!! NO MORE!!!

PS: And your "killing spree" comment is way off base. You people need to open your eyes to reality. Look at where CMKX is now headed. Look at all the reasons why!!

I now have more important things to do.
Good night.

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Posted by Grasshopper on :
 
"I now have more important things to do.
Good night."

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Now, Wouldn't that be a nice change!?! I can just imagine DMW realizing that there are more important things in life to do than bash a stock trading at these levels! That would definitely be a first for him! Next thing you know Glass and Willie will concede that they really don't KNOW anything more than the other posters here on this board concerning this stock....Nah, that will never happen!!! That would leave them too much free time to pursue interests outside of CMKX...We all know how profitable it is to spend 24/7 on a BB for a stock you think is a joke!

Sorry folks, I just can't get enough of these jokers! I'll never claim to be any kind of trading wizard, but I feel that I can read into the intentions of the maroons that persistently post negativity on the board without backing it up with facts...

I'm not saying that I'm 100% satisfied with the activities of this stock over the past couple months. I was hoping things would be flying by now, but I do realize that things take time to develop. I'm long on this and willing to hold for quite a while as everything plays out...
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Can't recommend this enough. Was there on Dr D's Paltalk when he was there giving this talk. I'm not sure about Sterling and some of the others. But this guy is the real thing. I hope the bashers and doubterw will take the time to listen to this. Pick it apart if you can. This is good.


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Dr Diamond's CMKX MP3 (2+ hours on CMKX!)

Dr Diamonds thoughts on CMKX from Sept. 14, 2004 are now available online in MP3 format at:
http://www.bigskysoftware.net/CMKX/CMKX-9-14-04.mp3

This is a 15.9 MB MP3 file (of over two hours) so you may have to wait for 1-20+ minutes for the download (depending on the speed on your modem). Canuck said it popped right up for him, but my system was slower.

This file is well worth the wait, and it confirmed my opinion that Dr. Diamonds is one of the best (if not the best) DDers on CMKX.

BTW, even if you get a "The page cannot be found" type message just keep waiting as the file will download in time and start playing. At least it did for me.

You can also try right clicking the MP3 URL above and hitting "Save Target As" and this MP3 file will download right on to your hard drive -- so that you may listen to it whenever you want and as many times as you desire (or send it to others in an email).

The sound quality gets betters the longer you listen into the file, as Dr. D began to speak slower and this improved the connection and audio. The last part of the MP3 contains some of the best information, so this worked out quite well.

Dr Diamond also asked that this disclaimer be included wherever this file is posted:

"This is Dr.Diamonds opinion and is not to be taken as professional trading advice. Dr. Diamond is not a paid professional financial adviser and security decisions should not be made off of this information. Dr.Diamond recommends that no one invest money at any time in any security that they are not fully prepared to accept as a 100% loss especially in the Pink Sheets market."

Feel free to post a link to this message on other boards so other people can hear this very useful useful audio file. This link to this page is:
http://cmkxdiamond.********s32.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=10954836 00

And thanks to Canuck for hosting this file!

Enjoy!

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Posted by glassman on :
 
grasshopper, until there ARE daimonds, and i mean a LOT diamonds, this stock is nothing more than UC selling tickets to a show that may or may not actually have an opening night.....
anybody who says anything different is, to use your words, a MORON. at 483+ billion shares, you have to ignore a lot of DD to convince yourself this is a BUY......
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Trading Wizardress, Byrd sends his best via a third party.
 
Posted by Grasshopper on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
grasshopper, until there ARE daimonds, and i mean a LOT diamonds, this stock is nothing more than UC selling tickets to a show that may or may not actually have an opening night.....
anybody who says anything different is, to use your words, a MORON. at 483+ billion shares, you have to ignore a lot of DD to convince yourself this is a BUY......

Actually, most of the DD on this stock points to the possibility that even if there are 483+ billion shares outstanding, this is still a great play at .0003 per share. I would love to see you post any FACTS that state otherwise. The existence of diamonds (and lots of them) is a foregone conclusion to most investors in this stock. That is not something that can be proved or disproved at this point. I'd say at .0003, its worth the risk. We are playing in the sub-penny world after all. If you can't handle the risk and uncertainty involved with a stock trading at .0003, then move on! I'm sure companies like Microsoft and WalMart can provide you with the reassurance you need to comfortably invest in a stock....

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Posted by Royals on :
 
I hold 1 million shares and have since April 2004 and lurk on several CMKX boards. I've posted a few times but with any conflicting view other than pumping I've been attacked as a basher or personally. Grasshopper states " find any DD Facts" that prove CMKX is NOT a good play. Are you blind? You ignore FACTS that bring CMKX in a bad light. Noalti says to stick to DD on CMKX and then goes on personal attacks to those who have different opinions or straight out FACTS of the history and continued dealings of UC. TO Glassman, Secman,Wallace and others I thank you for the actual info you bring but not for the personal back biting. I keep my million because I bought at .0001 and there's the small hope it will go somewhere.
Does anyone know what happened to Shadow and his effort to get into the office(filing cabinet) of CMKX?

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Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
ROYAL
I was wondering the same thing.
ANYINE
Looking for the Canadian Bureau of mines phone or email.
VAN
 
Posted by is300 on :
 
CMKX stock play soon?
From what of the (millions?) of CMKX boards I found this post and it looks like the CMKX play is coming soon which might explain what the party is for and what all the buying up is for.

"
Detwin nails it again. those with slow fingers and PC will be left in the dust. he doesn't
give any target pps. will it even be 0.001 ? plenty of stocks for such returns.
who knows. be alert and watch the stock every single day. now there's rumours of something black found over there, lol, oil ? oil in Canada is very expensive to extract (10-12 dollars per barrel vs 2 in Saudi arabia). ONLY MARGE HOLDERS (100Millions+ ) and FAST TRADERS will succeed here, imho

http://cmkxdiamond.********s32.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=10955974 15
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wow how annoying it chops up the url??


anyway enjoy as its a pretty good read:
By: detwin 19 Sep 2004, 03:06 AM EDT
Msg. 83099 of 83099
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CMKX-Shore GOLD-Debeers and the FALC POTENTIAL.


Lets try to keep things in perspective.

Debeers/Kensington have spent millions on an exploration program that has included some mini bulk and bulk sampling. They have recently announced more funding that will allow them to proceed with a more advance bulk sampling project. The FALC region is WELL KNOWN for its LARGE KIMBERLITE PIPES which translates into BILLIONS OF TONNAGE. In a word again "POTENTIAL", still NOT YET "ECONOMICAL".

NOW, no matter what any TDEM or AIRBORNE SURVEY RECORDS, ACTUAL DRILLING MUST BE DONE in order to evaluate the SAMPLES, CALCULATE THE GRADE and VALUATE THE DIAMONDS. At this point in time DEBEERS is still years away from any FEASIBILITY STUDY (if any). In a previous sample retrieved from 140/41, they recovered 155 carats worth a value of $6900 USD or $45 USD/carat. Not very good results at all.

Here is the DD from Will Purcell.

"Still, there is no certainty that Star's diamonds will come close to that mark however, as appraisals of diamonds from the nearby No. 140/141 pipe by De Beers Canada Corp. have not yielded a particularly high value. Over the past few years, about 155 carats of diamonds were priced at about $6,900 (U.S.), or about $45 (U.S.) per carat."

Now in all fairness to Debeers, 155 carats is a very small batch from a sample. They recently completed a computer model which estimated $146 per carat CDN, equivalent to approx $110 USD. (keep this number in mind for later reference).

AGAIN those are COMPUTER GENERATED ESTIMATES SO UNTIL DEBEERS PULLS THE ACTUAL DIAMONDS OUT OF THE GROUND and APPRAISES them, the valuation is still in question. The only substantiated value we have is the $45/carat figure. BUT we can agree that, as more samples are retrieved and processed the valuations will assuredly be higher. They wouldn't have spent additional funds if they didn't believe that there was still "POTENTIAL".

Before we move onto Shore GOLD we can conclude that Debeers believes in the "POTENTIAL" but are years away from any "PRODUCTION DECISION" and or "FEASIBILITY STUDY". Therefore its safe to assume that for the short term, Debeers will not have any impact on the region.

Now let's move onto SHORE GOLD which is currently in an advanced bulk sampling PROJECT. Shore began drilling the region in 95 and to date have completed the most extensive work at FALC. Taken from the SHORE GOLD web site.

"The Star Diamond Project contains a bulk tonnage diamond-bearing kimberlite 100% owned by Shore Gold Inc. The geophysical signature and early stage drilling have indicated a kimberlite body in the 500 million tonne range. Shore is currently undertaking a 25,000 tonne bulk sample to better determine carat values."

As of Friday, September 17 2004, Shore gold has retrieved and processed 12124 tonnes of kimberlite.
All the samples have been evaluated and the results have been RELEASED to the public. The remaining 12876 tonnes should be completed before the beginning of December, once the entire batch has been verified it will be forwarded to an independent appraiser for a FULL DIAMOND VALUATION (due around Christmas).

Earlier I was discussing the valuation of diamonds from FALC and THE ONLY PUBLICLY AVAILABLE INFORMATION is:

$45 USD/carat (Debeers 155 carats) - I concluded that in all practical purposes this number is way too low.

$110 USD/carat (Debeers computer generated model/estimates for their 140/41 pipe)

$100 USD/carat (I will include this figure as "INDUSTRY" standard)

To continue with my post I will proceed with the $110 USD carat figure that was a COMPUTER ESTIMATE PUT FORTH BY DEBEERS.

Even using this value (the highest of the 3) the FACTS will show that at this point in time, an open pit mine of the Star Kimberlite is becoming less and less of a possibility.

1,393 carats have been retrieved from the 12,124 tonnes collected (average 11.5 CPHT). Shore is on pace to collect approx 3200 carats in total which would average to 12.8 CPHT.

The latest results (released last week) were from the EARLY JOLI Kimberlite which were recovered from the 235m level. Mining 101 tells you: the lower you dig the better the results - therefore the last 6 batches returned 22 CPHT.

Now in order to continue I will preface this by saying that for my model, I'm going to use THE BEST AVAILABLE RESULTS AND DISMISS the AVERAGE CPHT, I will show that even if we calculate using the higher grade, the Star Kimberlite still falls short of economic viability.

The average grade to date for the Early Joli Kimberlite is approx 17 cpht. Most of this is from the 235m level.

Using the 17 CPHT and $110 USD/carat valuation (that was estimated by Debeers) we are left with a GROSS VALUATION of $18.70 USD/tonne.

Factor in: CONSERVATIVE $10 for mining/processing costs AND $3/tonne for PRE-PRODUCTION/CAPITAL COSTS.

WE ARE LEFT WITH: $5.70 USD NET/TONNE

If you call SHORE GOLD, they will verify that they're looking for a MINIMUM of $15 USD/tonne in order to have an economically viable mine.

In order to meet their goal SHORE WILL HAVE TO AVERAGE AT LEAST $165 USD PER CARAT to simply have any sort of FEASIBILITY. Remember I was using the 17 CPHT which is the grade at 750 feet, IF WE FACTOR AND CALCULATE THE ENTIRE AREA AND ALL THE SHAFTS SHORE DIAMOND VALUATIONS MAY NEED TO EXCEED WELL OVER $200 USD CARAT.

While not impossible, even at $165 USD/carat this would be considered a VERY HIGH VALUATION.

THIS IS WHERE WE STAND TODAY, there are still over 12000 more tonnes of kimberlite that needs to be processed and the company has indicated that MOST of it will be coming from SE 235m level which has produced over 20 CPHT.

It's going to take a huge improvement in overall grade and a very high diamond valuation in order to bring credibility/feasibity to any open pit mining project at the FALC. As CMKX shareholders (more importantly long term investors) the results at STAR KIMBERLITE will have a dramatic effect on any long term success we wish to sustain. I urge you to follow the developments at SHORE GOLD because the outcome there is paramount to any kind of legitimacy that CMKX and entire area is seeking.

In conclusion, there is definently potential at FALC, however there is much more to mining than simply finding diamondiferous kimberlite and as I've shown potential does not equal economical. On average 1 out of 200 advanced projects ever become a mine.

One large kimberlite pipe IS NOT going to translate into 1+ trillion dollars. Let's get this out of our system. That is pure speculation with absolutely no evidence or data to back up the claim. Calculating numbers on paper does not transform into reality. I've been reading posts for months regarding the potential at FALC, and there is no denying the potential in the region. However, people have CONFUSED the differences between potential and economical.

NOW HOW WILL CMKX appreciate in the short term IF DIAMONDS WON'T BE THE PLAY? SIMPLE REALLY.

THIS PART IS SPECULATION.

-large mineral find other than diamonds ie. platinum
-possibility of large NSS position
-merging of multiple companies into one conglomerate

1. UC has been buying back shares for retirement.

2. A HUGE share retirement will be announced along with confirmation of a low float/low OS.

3. The news in #2 followed by a MERGER announcement will TRIGGER A VERY HUGE RUN, ALL in our current share structure.

AT THIS POINT, MANY WILL SELL, THE REMAINING SHAREHOLDERS WILL BE TENDERED AN OFFER THEN.

4. There WILL THEN BE A MOVE TO A LARGER EXCHANGE (OTCBB or AMEX) along with multiple companies to FORM A NEW ENTITY. This will be in the form of a REVERSE SPLIT or REVERSE RESTRUCTURING that will ALLOW current shareholders to HOLD A PIECE in the newly formed MEGA CORP.

Any of these events would be the CATALYST for any share price appreciation. "Short term" this will be a paper play and HINGE on what transpires with the SHARE STRUCTURE and any Naked Short Position that does/does not EXIST. I fully expect a SHARE RETIREMENT PR coupled with a MERGER ANNOUNCEMENT which SHOULD give us shor term momentum.

Although if this rumoured "huge" mineral find is indeed factual, the funds from that deal would be available to URBAN so he could either TENDER US IMMEDIATELY or ISSUE A CASH DIVIDEND.

The name of our company may be CMKX "Diamonds" but I fully believe that the "DIAMONDS" will not play a pivotal role in any short term movement. Also, as I stated above there are still many, many unanswered questions and very low odds that it will even play a factor LONG TERM as well.

GOOD LUCK EVERYONE.

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Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Royals:
I hold 1 million shares and have since April 2004 and lurk on several CMKX boards. I've posted a few times but with any conflicting view other than pumping I've been attacked as a basher or personally. Grasshopper states " find any DD Facts" that prove CMKX is NOT a good play. Are you blind? You ignore FACTS that bring CMKX in a bad light. Noalti says to stick to DD on CMKX and then goes on personal attacks to those who have different opinions or straight out FACTS of the history and continued dealings of UC. TO Glassman, Secman,Wallace and others I thank you for the actual info you bring but not for the personal back biting. I keep my million because I bought at .0001 and there's the small hope it will go somewhere.
Does anyone know what happened to Shadow and his effort to get into the office(filing cabinet) of CMKX?

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Royal, I do say to stick to DD on this stock. That will never change. But review my disputes with other posters. Those disputes are always in connection with personal attacks or ridicule, of me or other posters, and have nothing to do with their opinions on this stock. Read each post to see if it is reasoned opinion or DD. Read each post to see if it is ridicule or personal attack. On the former, I may disagree, but I do not "attack". On the latter, I will respond. Call it attack if you wish, but no one here has to put up with that kind of behavior.



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Morning Wallace! How are you today?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
here are some FACTS grasshopper..LOL

if you bought in for the LONG shortly after CMKX went pink,

your SHARE(we do call them shares cuz they represent YOUR portion/cut/peice of the pie) went from 1billionth? LOL to 1/800 billionth, then they turned around and sold 30% of the whole pie out from under that.....

FACTS hah......and it's still a share of claims.....not product

i play pennies and micro's grasshopper, i don't expect them to be MSFT or SNE or MMM....
but this play requires that you IGNORE the facts entirely....
i have never said don't buy a hundred$ or two, but when i hear people saying they are buying 10's of thousands of dollars worth and continue to insist this is a good buy, i have to wonder who GAVE them their money, cuz i doubt anybody who earns their money would disrespect it this way...LOL

sending more money to people who have a track record of making it DISAPPEAR is irresponsible...and if you do that you don't deserve to have it....
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
one of the funniest aspects to all the wild claims of instant wealth here is that if the wildest claims do come thru...

that of 100 billion$ worth of diamonds after expenses....

the market for diamonds will COLLAPSE...
it is already a well-known fact that there is a diamond glut, and that the prices are artificially maintained....
what are we gonna do??? eat them?? LOL
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Well certain basketball players are paying 1 million for 1 diamond just to appease their wife after getting caught cheating.And we know how much that happens.LOL
Wells dry up.Weather you like it or not Gman Canada's diamond market production is projected to increase as the years go on.NSDM,not too far from CMKX ( http://www.northstardiamonds.net/content/blogcategory/68/56/ ) is expected to produce profits by the end of this month. http://www.northstardiamonds.net/marketing/DiamondsSearch.php
Hopfully CMKX will be right smack in the middle of Canadas future diamond production.

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Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Glassman wrote (edited):
went from 1billionth? LOL to 1/800 billionth
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Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't the odds on those big lottery tickets better than even 1 billion to 1 no matter how many one buys?
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Good afternoon, Upside. I am fine as long as people remain civil. May the force be with you. GLTY, and, seriously, have a very pleasant day.

Must go now.
 


Posted by will on :
 
Upman, I will refrain, and let highwaychild have at you.
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
DAAAAAAAAAAA BEARS!LOL
Hey, the way they played today,They MUST read our CMKX thread.You know I'm just kiddin' with ya Upman.

Oh yea,I can't wait for my divvys.HA HA HA
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
This from the CMKX unofficial board. We are connected to Shore gold. It just keeps getting bigger. (add www to link)

quote:


Gender:
Posts: 504
Shore Gold DOES work with us! Proof....
« Thread started on: Today at 11:24am »

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From SHANE RESOURCES Filing, SHORE GOLD CONNECTION. Go here, click on "view this public company's documents", and read the Aug. 23rd 2004 MD&A! MONROE LAKE SECTION..Shore Gold info is there! http://www.sedar.com/DisplayProfile.do?lang=EN&issuerType=03&issuerNo=00004138
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Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by highwayman:
quote:
DAAAAAAAAAAA BEARS!LOL
Hey, the way they played today,They MUST read our CMKX thread.You know I'm just kiddin' with ya Upman.
Oh yea,I can't wait for my divvys.HA HA HA

My answer is in an e-mail to Will. Maybe he'll forward it to you.


 


Posted by will on :
 
Done. You two can have fun now.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by highwayman:
My answer is in an e-mail to Will. Maybe he'll forward it to you.



 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Up,HA HA HA,I read it.At least you're a good sport.LOL

Here's some FYI on the FALC lands I came accross somewhere... http://www.ciw.edu/pub/shirey/gabi/GabiTrash/ABSTRACTS/FLA_0373.PDF
 


Posted by Bigrod40 on :
 

Here is the update of the claims in the Fort a la Corne Diamond Fields.
Anyone who doubted all the so-called thousands of acres belonging to CMKM (cmkx), need only to look at this map.
CMKM is in Light Yellow, WOW, they have almost all of it, and is partners with the Red color.
Also hearing some rumours that they have partnered with Shane Resourses Ltd, however trying to confirm this.
http://www.casavantmining.com/locations.asp
 
Posted by stockfreak on :
 
alot of people are talking about a reverse split. hopefully not but some are saying before it oculd ever get on the big boards it would have to. say if it does and say before it does does anyone think it could get to a penny before the reverse and after the reverse would it be a good time to get back in . this is probrably confusing sorry new at all of this. This is about the only stock i have been looking into and so many people say so many different things. i have also been looking at prrm i beleive this stock should be a little higher then it is.
GLTA
 
Posted by Bigrod40 on :
 


Can you believe this...
CMKX is on EBAY (type in cmkx under search)
Now I've seen it all...
I wonder if we will see a VISA card there one day....LOL
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Well Stockfreak 'alot of people' can't know for sure, but CMKX hasn't had one before.This is the biggest 'wait and see' I've seen.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Hey highway, I see that "horse" team didn't fare too well today either.
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Hey highway, I see that "horse" team didn't fare too well today either.

One point,@#%$!Guess I picked the wrong one point upset.HA HA HA.And it was upsetting.

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Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Here's some DD on Urban!!
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Alberta >> Court of Queen's Bench >>



Citation: White Bear Construction Ltd. v. Casavant, 1999 ABQB 1013
Date: 1999-12-22
Docket: 9903-03107
URL: http://www.canlii.org/ab/cas/abqb/1999/1999abqb1013.html


White Bear Construction Ltd. v. Casavant, 1999 ABQB 1013

Date: 19991222

Action No. 9903 03107


IN THE COURT OF QUEEN'S BENCH OF ALBERTA

JUDICIAL DISTRICT OF EDMONTON

BETWEEN:


WHITE BEAR CONSTRUCTION LTD., KEN HODGSON

AND SHARON HODGSON


Plaintiffs

- and -

URBAN CASAVANT, ALLAN MOEN, MCM MINERALS INC.,

FULL TIME MANAGEMENT INC., AND PAN PACIFIC GEM

INDUSTRY (TIANJIN) CO., LTD.


Defendants

_______________________________________________________


MEMORANDUM OF DECISION

of the

HONOURABLE MADAM JUSTICE J.B. VEIT

_______________________________________________________

APPEARANCES:


Barry M. King

for the Plaintiffs


Gregory J. Leia

for the Defendants


Summary


[1] The defendants asks the court to lift the ex-parte attachment order the court issued on December 17, 1999; they argue that the plaintiffs have failed to comply with the requirements of s. 17 of the Civil Enforcement Act and that the plaintiffs have failed to file adequate undertakings in damages.


[2] The application is allowed in part. On an interim interim basis, that is until the hearing of the plaintiffs’ application for a pre-judgment attachment order on January 11, 2000, the ex parte injunction is set aside as it relates to Mr. Casavant’s spouse and children.


Cases and authority cited


[3] By the court: Rea v. Patmore [1999] A.J. No. 1168 (Q.B.); Osman Auction Inc. v. Belland [1998] A.J. No. 1443 (Q.B.); Canadian Engineering Surveys Co. v. Esso Resources Canada (1988) 89 A.R. 35 (M.) and cases discussed by Stevenson & Cote under R. 214(1).


1. Background


[4] The plaintiffs obtained an ex-parte attachment order on the basis of affidavits from Ken Hodgson, Frank Olson and Norm Sparks.


In his affidavit, Mr. Hodgson swears that:


- both White Bear and he in his personal capacity have advanced funds to the defendants Allan Moen and Urban Casavant which funds were to be repaid to White Bear;


- demand has been made for repayment, but no repayment has been received;


- the plaintiffs are owed $1,037,902.35;


- he is not aware of any assets of Moen and Casavant in Alberta other than a claim they have advanced against John Bergen for 130,000 shares and 65,000 warrants in Radar Acquisitions Corp. He states that he believes Moen and Casavant to be judgment proof;


- 85,000 shares of Radar Acquisitions Corp were traded on the 14th and 15th of December 1999 by brokerage houses normally used by Urban Casavant and Allan Moen;


- the list price for Radar Acquisitions Corp has dropped by more than $0.27 per share since December 14th;


- Urban Casavant and Allan Moen have engaged in a number of situations where stock listing prices have been manipulated including personal information of involvement in transactions involving Sepik Gold Corporation;


- Allan Moen obtained 130,000 shares and 65,000 warrants in Radar Acquisitions Corp. as a result of a private placement which became free trading in October, 1999;

- he is aware that several other investors have similar claims against Moen and Casavant.


[5] He swore that the plaintiffs were likely to be seriously hindered in the enforcement of any judgments that they would obtain in this action because the defendants are trading Radar Acquisitions Corp. shares in a pattern which will result in the disposition of the shares at less than their real value.


[6] In his affidavit, Frank Olson swears that Sky Rise Farms Ltd. has advanced $1,333,080.00 to Allan Moen and Urban Casavant, that the monies should have been repaid, and that although demand has been made for repayment, repayment has not been made. Mr. Olson also swears that he has been involved with Allan Moen and Urban Casavant for a number of years, and that he is not aware of any assets owned by them in Alberta.


[7] In his affidavit, Norm Sparks swears that Norsand Farms Ltd. has advanced more than $650,000.00 to Messrs. Moen and Casavant, which funds were to be repaid, and that although demand has been made for repayment, repayment has not been made. He also states that he has been involved with Messrs. Moen and Casavant for many years and that he is not aware of any assets owned by them in Alberta.


[8] In support of their application to have the ex-parte attachment order set aside, Urban Casavant and Allan Moen have sworn affidavits. In his affidavit, Mr. Casavant has sworn that:


- Ken Hodgson told him that he had purchased 600,000 shares of Sepik Gold Corporation for approximately $0.80 per share for a gross cost of approximately $480,000.00 He advised he sold the same shares for gross proceeds of $270,000.00. The alleged trading loss was approximately $210,000.00. Ken Hodgson asked to indemnify him for such losses and I agreed to provide the following consideration:


cheque $20,000.00

cheque $10,000.00

interbroker transfer from Arnold Guptka (IPO Capital) to

Canaccord in the name of Ken/Sharon Hodgson (60,000 shares

of Kincho Global Enterprises ($0.75 per share) and 50,000 shares

of Sepik Gold Corporation ($0.40 share) $100,000

100,000 shares of Radar Acquisition Corp. $ 80,000


[9] Mr. Casavant does not explain why he would agree to compensate Mr. Hodgson for the latter’s trading losses, but Mr. Casavant asserts that Mr. Hodgson never provided proof of such losses.


- On April 8, 1998, White Bear advanced to him $45,000.00 on behalf of Full Time Management Inc., a receipt for which is attached. I delivered to White Bear 100,000 shares of Sepik Gold Corporation at a value of $58,850. White Bear wrote a cheque to me for the difference being $13,850.00, a receipt for which is attached.


- In the spring of 1998, White Bear advanced to me the sum of $55,000. I delivered to White Bear 100,000 shares of Sepik Gold Corporation with a value of $55,000.00.


- On April 1,1998, White Bear advanced $37,450.00 to me on behalf of Full Time Management Inc., a receipt for which is attached. This was a debt of Full Time Management Inc. to pay for corporate staking. I was not to be personally liable for this indebtedness.


- On or about June 15, 1998, I signed an accommodation letter/promissory note in favour of White Bear with respect to the purchase by Pan Pacific of the 4 Chip Trailers. The accommodation letter/promissory note refers to $126,502.35 and 9,000 shares of Sepik Gold Corporation, a copy of which note is attached. I believe that this debt would have been retired upon the sale by White Bear of the 4 Chip Trailers.


- I attach a copy of my cheque #054 dated June 1,1998 in the amount of $190,000.00. Ken Hodgson never advanced $190,000.00 to myself.


- I attach a copy of my cheque #177 dated December 9, 1998 in the amount of $325,000.00. Ken Hodgson did not advance $325,000.00 to myself.


- I attach a copy of my cheque #178 dated January 7, 1999 in the amount of $230,000.00. Ken Hodgson did not advance $230,000.00 to myself.


- I provided the plaintiffs with five blank cheques as sign of good faith that debts for which I was personally responsible would be paid. Two cheques were used to pay out the first transaction relating to the trading loss. The remaining three cheques were completed by the plaintiffs without my authorization.


[10] Mr. Casavant also swears that a corporation owned by his children, Team Trading Enterprises is owed at least 800,000 shares of Radar Acquisition Corp having a market value of $2,040,000, and his spouse is owed at least 300,000 shares of Radar, having a market value of $700,000.00 and his brother-in-law Eric Reid is also owed at least 300,000 shares of Radar.


[11] In his affidavit, Mr. Moen swears that:


- he agreed to sell to White Bear a 5% interest in Pan Pacific if White Bear made a loan of approximately $150,000 to $175,000 to Pan Pacific. White Bear made the loan by assigning its equity in a 1994 Peterson Pacific Chipper Model - with a market value of $450,000 - for $1.00 and assumption of the existing lease financing to the Bank of Nova Scotia, Prince Albert, in the amount of $300,000.00, and attaches the bill of sale signed by Pan Pacific and White Bear. On April 15, 1998, Pan Pacific sold the 1994 Peterson to Wajax Industries Ltd. for $450,000.00 plus GST, and attaches a letter outlining the terms of sale. The Bank of Nova Scotia financing was paid out on sale. The net sale proceeds of $170,000 inclusive of GST would have been owing by Pan Pacific to White Bear.


- on June 8, 1998 White Bear sold to Pan Pacific four trailers for $150,000.00 plus GST, and attaches a copy of the bill of sale. Although the document states that the sale price was $200,000.00, the sale price was to be $150,000.00. Also, although the document sates that the purchase price was paid in full no payment was made to White Bear. The changes were made to the documents to obtain financing from Sky Rise Farms Ltd. Urban Casavant and Pan Pacific jointly made a promissory note in favour of Ken Hodgson and Pan Pacific jointly for $150,000, and attaches a copy of the promissory note. There were two additional notes granted at the same time, one for $30,000.00 made by myself to Ken/Sharon Hodgson, a copy of which is attached, and one for $126,602.35 and 9,000 shares of Sepik Gold Corporation. The latter note represents the difference between $150,000.00 plus GST less the $30,000.00 from Urban Casavant. On June 15, 1998 Pan Pacific obtained a mortgage on the 4 Chip Trailers from Sky Rise Farms Ltd. (Frank Olson) in the amount of $150,000.00, and attaches a copy of the General Security Agreement. Only $120,000.00 was advanced by Sky Rise Farms Ltd. and the remaining $30,000.00 represented loan fees. White Bear received $30,000.00 from the loan proceeds in satisfaction of Urban Casavant’s note. On June 15, 1998, Pan Pacific sold the 4 chip trailers to Sky Rise Farms Ltd. On June 15,1998, Sy Rise Farms Ltd sold the 4 chip trailers to White Bear for $150,000.00 plus GST, and attaches a copy of the bill of sale. Throughout this period, White Bear retained possession of the 4 chip trailers. I was advised by Frank Olson that White Bear has sold the 4 chip trailers and retained the proceeds and has not accounted for the sale proceeds. The sale proceeds would have been applied against the $126,602.35 note. As far as I am aware, the only person who is out of pocket on this transaction is Sky Rise Farms Ltd. for their loan proceeds.


- White Bear agreed to purchase from Pan Pacific 100,000 shares of Sepik Gold Corporation for the sum of $55,000.00, and attaches the receipt.


- In August, 1999, I personally pledged 150,000 shares of Radar Acquisition Corp which I received from John Berger in July of 1999 to White Bear to secure the indebtedness of Pan Pacific to White Bear. The market value of those shares on December 17, 1999 was $382,500.00 ($2.55 per share). White Bear has not advised if they remain in possession of these shares and/or if sold White Bear has not accounted to Pan Pacific with regard to the sale. [Mr. Moen does not attach any documentation in support of this contention.]


- White Bear bought a 7% interest in Full Time for $35,000.00 on March 24, 1999 with a right to acquire an additional 7% for $35,000.00, and attaches a copy of the agreement. MCM signed a promissory note for the $35,000.00 advanced on March 24, 1998 and attaches a copy of that note. [There appears to be a write-over on the document attached. However, in the production of records from the plaintiffs, there is a copy of a document from MCM Minerals Inc. which appears to relate to this transaction and which is dated March 24th, 1998.] On April 1,1998 White Bear advanced $37,500.00 to Urban Casavant and attaches a copy of the receipt signed by Casavant on behalf of Full Time.


- At no time did I personally borrow funds from White Bear, Ken Hodgson and/or Sharon Hodgson. I agreed to sign the note of June 15, 1995 for $30,000.00 from Urban Casavant to Ken/Sharon as additional comfort for the $30,000.00 debt owing by Pan Pacific which was paid. Until White Bear accounts for the 150,000 shares of Radar Acquisition Corp it holds as lender, I cannot reconcile whether there are any funds owing by Pan Pacific to White Bear.


- I have an action against John Bergen for delivery of 300,000 shares of Radar Acquisition Corp. with a market value of $700,000.00. These shares are subject to litigation in which the solicitor for the applicant plaintiffs is the solicitor for the defendant John Bergen. John Bergen and one of the plaintiffs in this action, Ken Hodgson, are directors of Radar Acquisition Corp.


[12] White Bear and Ken Hodgson and Sharon Hodgson have provided an affidavit of documents which essentially contains the same documents as the documents appended to the affidavits of Moen and Casavant. There is no document from White Bear evidencing advances of $190,000.00, $325,000.00 and $230,000.00 to Urban Casavant.


[13] The plaintiffs/claimants have not provided any evidence about the Moen - Casavant pattern of trading in Radar Acquisitions Corp.


[14] This action was commenced in February, 1999. In July, 1999, at the request of the defendants, Master Floyd ordered the plaintiffs/claimants to file an affidavit of documents. The plaintiffs have not yet examined the defendants on discovery.


[15] The defendants assert that they have provided the plaintiffs with their complete stock trading records to July 1999.


[16] The defendants allege that the transactions that give rise to the claim in these proceedings arose out of a decision in June 1998 to acquire the shares of Radar, basically a dormant shell that owned some ammonite properties in northern Saskatchewan, to use as a structure to develop a mining venture in northern Saskatchewan. A group of investors agreed to buy the control block of Radar from John Bergen. The agreements were that Bergen would transfer 2.5 million shares to 5 individuals, who did not include Urban Casavant, but did include Casavant’s wife, children, brother-in-law, and Ken Hodgson. The consideration paid for the shares at that time was 4 cents a share. According to the defendants, at the end of July 1998, the first payment on the Bergen block was made, and half the shares in the Bergen control block were delivered. The defendants allege that when the stock of Radar increased from 10 cents to 80 cents a share, all the new owners of the control block wanted to do a private placement in Colorado. They then allege that the relationship among the members of the control block broke down in late 1998. The defendants allege that there was an informal pooling arrangement in place pursuant to which all members of the group would wait for the stock to reach $10.00 per share before selling any. The defendants allege that not all parties respected the pooling agreement, some sold their shares into the market, and the allegations and counter allegations began.


[17] The defendants allege that, during the trading history of Radar, the stock has dropped in increments greater than 27 cents a share.


2. Statutory and jurisprudential requirements to obtain a pre-judgment attachment order


[18] As pointed out in earlier decisions, because pre-judgment relief is extraordinary, a court is not bound to grant that relief even if an applicant satisfies all of the statutory conditions.


[19] The statutory conditions are found in s. 17 (2) of the Civil Enforcement Act:


- there is a reasonable likelihood that the claimant’s claim against the defendant will be established. (It will be noted that this is a substantially higher threshold that the requirement for an interim injunction which is only that there is a serious issue to be tried.); and


- there are reasonable grounds for believing that the defendant is dealing with the defendant’s exigible property,


- otherwise than for the purpose of meeting the defendant’s reasonable and ordinary business or living expenses, and


- in a manner that would be likely to seriously hinder the claimant in the enforcement of a judgment against the defendant.


[20] The Act also provides in s. 17(4) that the court shall not grant an attachment order unless the claimant undertakes to pay any damages or indemnity that the court may subsequently decide should be paid to the defendant or a third person and the court could require the claimant to provide security for the undertaking.


[21] In section 17(5), the Legislature has ordered that an attachment order shall not attach property that exceeds an amount or a value that appears to the court to be necessary to meet the claimant’s claim.


3. Applying the statutory and jurisprudential standards to this case


[22] On the basis of the material filed on this application, the plaintiffs have not established that there is a reasonable likelihood that the entirety of the claimants’s claim against the defendant will be established. The standard established by the legislation is a high one, but the relief requested is extraordinary.


[23] The plaintiffs have established that there is a reasonable likelihood that they will establish their claim against:


- Pan Pacific for $170,000.00, inclusive of GST, in relation to the dealings in the Peterson Pacific Chipper;


- MCM for $35,000.00 advanced on March 24, 1998;


- Urban Casavant for $37,500.00 advanced on April 1, 1998, on behalf of Full Time;


- Urban Casavant for $126,502.35 for the promissory note relating to the purchase by Pan Pacific of the 4 chip trailers.


[24] Indeed, the Statements of Defence filed in this lawsuit acknowledge that the defendants owe money to White Bear.


[25] The plaintiffs have not established that they have any claim against Urban Casavant’s spouse, or brother-in-law Eric Reid, or the Casavant children who are the owners of Team Trading. Property owned by those persons cannot, on the basis of the evidence provided on this motion, be attached since they do not owe White Bear or the Hodgsons any money. In this context, I note that the submissions made during the course of the hearing establish that Ms. Casavant, Eric Reid and Team Trading all became the legal owners of shares of Radar Acquisitions Corp. long before the plaintiffs claimed any debt against the defendants; therefore, whatever else this case may be, there is no evidence at this stage that Mr. Casavant has traded away shares that he owned to his wife, his brother-in-law and his children with a view to avoiding his debts to the plaintiffs.


[26] The plaintiffs wish to use the evidence of Mr. Moen on his cross-examination on affidavit in another action to establish that Mr. Casavant’s children have given Mr. Casavant authority to trade those shares. There is a question about whether the plaintiffs are entitled to use that evidence, obtained in another proceeding, in this lawsuit, except, obviously in the cross-examination of any of the affiants or to test the credibility of the defendants on discovery: Canadian Engineering Surveys. The weight of the jurisprudence appears to be that a statement made in another proceeding cannot be used for the truth of its contents, but only for the purpose of testing credibility. In this case, of course, although the action was commenced in February 1999, the plaintiffs have not yet examined Mr. Moen. In any event, however, even if Mr. Moen’s sworn statement in another proceeding could be used for the truth of its contents in this proceeding, the statement would not assist the plaintiffs. The mere fact that Mr. Casavant can trade shares owned by Team Trading does not mean that he is the beneficial owner of the shares legally owned by Team Trading.


[27] The plaintiffs have not provided any explicit evidence to establish that the recent trading in Radar Acquisitions Corp. is outside the normal course of business. The absence of such evidence is, of course, fatal to an application for a pre-judgment attachment order. However, since the submissions at the hearing including a submission that, during the last 90 days the stock has traded as high as $4.00 a share, the sale of 85,000 shares by insiders over a two day period may indeed be outside the normal course of trading of the stock. The plaintiffs have, therefore, barely established the minimum evidence required to meet the statutory requirements for the relief.


[28] The plaintiffs have asked for an adjournment to allow them to cross-examine Messrs. Casavant and Allan Moen on their affidavits. They can have an adjournment, of course, but they cannot keep the ex-parte attachment order in place during the adjournment


[29] There is no documentary support for the plaintiffs’ assertion that they, or any of them, advanced over $1,000,000.00 to defendants, or any of them. There is no suggestion, except as specifically acknowledged in the affidavits of Messrs Casavant and Moen that Mr. Casavant’s spouse, or children or brother-in-law guaranteed any of the corporate debts to the plaintiffs. The fact that Mr. Casavant may have trading privileges in relation to stock legally owned by his spouse, his children and his brother-in-law is not the equivalent of concluding that Mr. Casavant is the beneficial owner of the shares in the hands of his spouse, his children, and his brother-in-law.


[30] The plaintiffs have not had the time to answer the claim from Mr. Moen that shares have been deposited as security for any outstanding indebtedness. It is clear, however, than one of the issues that will have to be addressed when the matter is heard next month, is the issue of the claimed security. The Act states that any attachment order should be as narrow as possible. If shares were pledged as security for the outstanding debt, the security might constitute a full answer to the plaintiffs’s claim.


[31] Section 17 of the Act requires, at a minimum, that the applicant for a pre-judgment attachment order establish that proceedings have been commenced in Alberta to establish his claim. Mr. Hodgson swears that he believes that many other claims are being made against the defendants. The affidavits from Olsen and Sparks support that contention. However, making a claim, and establishing that a claim is reasonably likely to be established, are two different things. Messrs. Olsen and Sparks have just commenced legal proceedings; they don’t have judgments. The Civil Enforcement Act appears to address the enforcement of well established claims; it may be that where a creditor is concerned about a debtor’s ability to meet claims as they become due, which may be a slightly different concept from that of not honouring proved claims, the creditor’s remedy is found in bankruptcy legislation. On this interim application, I do not take the evidence of Messrs. Olsen and Sparks into account.


4. Adequacy of the undertaking


[32] White Bear and Ken Hodgson filed undertakings in damages; Sharon Hodgson has filed no such undertaking.


[33] It is a small point but Sharon Hodgson, as one of the plaintiffs in this matter, and one of the claimants, is required to file an undertaking in order for the plaintiffs to technically comply with the statutory prerequisites for obtaining an attachment order.


[34] One of the issues that will be decided at the hearing on the merits is whether the plaintiffs should be required to give security for their undertakings. The parties will find some authority on this issue under the heading “fortifying an undertaking”.


5. Adjournment


[35] White Bear’s application for an attachment order is adjourned to a Special Chambers hearing on January 11, 2000 at 2 p.m. Given the need to have a hearing on the merits as soon as possible on the one hand, and the exigencies of having the affiants cross-examined on their affidavits during the holiday season on the other, the parties are relieved of the obligation to file the ususal special chambers brief. In lieu of such briefs, each party will provide the equivalent for this application of a family law special chambers letter - i.e. a short document that outlines the issues the court will have to decide and the statutory and case law on which the party applies. The plaintiffs/claimants will have carriage of the hearing on January 11. All parties will cross-examine any of the affiants they choose to cross-examine prior to the next court hearing. The plaintiffs/claimants will provide their short outline of the application to the defendants at the latest by noon on Thursday, January 6, 2000; the defendants/respondents will provide their short outline of their position to the plaintiffs at the latest by 4 p.m. on Friday, January 7, 2000


6. Costs


[36] The costs of this hearing will be dealt with by the judge who hears the special chambers hearing on January 11, 2000. By then, it will be clear, for example, whether shares

were placed with the claimants as security for outstanding indebtedness, and the resolution of that issue is likely to have an impact on the award of costs.

HEARD on the 21st day of December, 1999.

DATED at Edmonton, Alberta this 22nd day of December, 1999.

__________________________ http://www.canlii.org/ab/cas/abqb/1999/1999abqb1013.html




 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
want more ...?
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2. http://www.canlii.org/ab/cas/abqb/2000/2000abqb640.html
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*check this out ...*
3. http://www.canlii.org/ab/cas/abqb/1999/1999abqb995.html
Team Trading Enterprises Ltd. v. Bergen, 1999 ABQB 995

Date: 19991221

Action No. 9903-13251, 9903-13252and 9903, 07003


IN THE COURT OF QUEEN'S BENCH OF ALBERTA

JUDICIAL DISTRICT OF EDMONTON


ACTION #9903-13251

BETWEEN:


TEAM TRADING ENTERPRISES LTD.


Plaintiff


- and -


JOHN BERGEN


Defendant


AND ACTION # 9903-13252

BETWEEN:


URBAN CASAVANT


Plaintiff


- and -


JOHN BERGEN


Defendant

AND ACTION #9903-07003

BETWEEN:


TEAM TRADING ENTERPRISES LTD., ERIC REID, CAROLY CASAVANT AND ALLAN MOEN


Plaintiffs

- and -

JOHN BERGEN


Defendant

APPEARANCES:


Greg Leia

Wolff Leia Huckell

for the plaintiffs


Barry King

for the defendant


_______________________________________________________


MEMORANDUM OF DECISION

of

W. BREITKREUZ, Master in Chambers

_______________________________________________________

[1] This is an application by the various plaintiffs to consolidate the three actions. I will refer to the various actions in the order listed in the style of cause in this memorandum as action number 1, 2, and 3.


[2] I have compared the three actions in all the permutations and combinations possible. To be more precise, I compared the pleadings in number 1 with the pleadings in numbers 2 and 3, and compared pleadings in number 2 with number 3.


[3] It is apparent from the styles of cause that there is a common defendant but that the plaintiffs in each case are different. In actions number 1 and 2 there is only one plaintiff, one of whom is also a plaintiff in action number 3 but is not a plaintiff in action number 2, and the plaintiff in action number 2 is not a plaintiff in either actions number 1 and 3.


[4] Action number 1 is an action for specific performance of the sale of shares of Radar Acquisitions Corp., and alternatively judgment in the amount of the trading value of the shares.


[5] Action number 2 also involves shares of the same company but it does not involve the purchase by the plaintiff of any of the defendant’s shares in that company; it is an action by the plaintiff for the payment by the defendant for services provided by the plaintiff to the defendant for “investor relations services to increase the price of the common shares of Radar Acquisitions Corp.”. The payment for these services was to be in the form of the transfer of a certain motor home alleged by the plaintiff to have a value of $300,000.00.


[6] It is apparent that apart from the defendant being the same person as in the first action, and the subject-matter of the law suit being broadly related to the shares of Radar Acquisitions Corp., there is no other similarity that would warrant consolidating these two actions.


[7] Action number 3 is a much more complex action than either actions number 1 and number 2.


[8] The statement of claim consists of 26 numbered paragraphs plus the prayer which consists of 17 sub-items. I will set out some of the paragraphs to demonstrate how prejudicial it would be to the parties in the other two actions to consolidate their actions with action number 3:


7. The shares to be delivered to Ken Hodgson were delivered to Ken Hodgson when Pan Pacific Gem Industry (Tiajin) Co. Ltd. paid for 100,000 common share of Radar Acquisitions Corp. in December 1998 and Ken Hodgson received delivery of such shares and as such any shares which were designated to be delivered to Ken Hodgson have been assigned to Allan Moen pursuant to collateral agreements with Pan Pacific Gem Industry (Tiajin) Co. Ltd. The Defendant has no obligations to Ken Hodgson and Plaintiffs have no obligation as a result of the agreements referred to in Paragraph 5.


. . . . .


9. Pursuant to an agreement dated November 9, 1994, amongst Scorpio Investments Ltd., Bellis Securities (BVI) Ltd., Radar Acquisitions Corp. and Montreal Trust Company of Canada (“Founders Escrow Agreement”), Scorpio Investments Ltd. and Bellis Securities (BVI) Ltd. agreed to deposit with Montreal Trust Company of Canada 750,000 shares (“Founders Escrow Shares”) which were to be released as follows:

(i) 250,000 on November 15, 1996;


(ii) 250,000 on November 15, 1997; and

(iii) 250,000 on November 25, 1998


10. Pursuant to an agreement between Scorpio Investments Ltd., Bellis Securites (BVI) Ltd. and John Bergen, the Founders Escrow Shares were assigned to John Bergen by Scorpio Investments Ltd. and Bellis Securites (BVI) Ltd.


11. Pursuant to an agreement in writing dated November 15, 1995 (“Sundial Escrow Agreement”) amongst Sundian Ammonite Corp., Radar Acquisitions Corp. and the Montreal Trust Company of Canada, 2,1000,000 shares (Sundial Escrow Shares”) were deposited with Montreal Trust Company of Canada by Sundial Ammonite Corp. to be released as follows:


(a) as to 228,000 shares (“Sundial Time Escrow Shares”), 76,000 were to be released on November 15, 1996, 76,000 to be released on November 15, 1997 and 76,000 to be released on November 15, 1998;


(b) as to the 1,872,000 shares (“Sundial Performance Escrow Shares”) these shares were to be released on the basis of 1 share for each $0.30 spent on exploration and development on the Sundial Ammonite Properties and/or $0.30 gross revenue from sales arising from the Sundial Ammonite Properties.


[9] The prejudice arising from the proposed consolidation relates to both the time consumption and the expense to the parties of being involved in discoveries and trial in matters that cannot possibly be related. In addition there is the potential prejudice to the defendant of being tainted with something akin to similar fact evidence, in spite of my earlier indication that there is no connection between the three actions. Nor is there any danger of different judges coming to different conclusions. The simple answer to that is that the facts are so different that different conclusions don’t even need justification.


[10] The principles and cases are discussed in the Civil Procedure Guide, Stevenson and Cτtι. I think the pleadings in the actions before me are so distantly or remotely connected to each other that a discussion of the principles or authorities is unnecessary.


[11] I think the application should be dismissed with costs to the defendant in any event of the cause. There should be one set of costs only and taxation should be adjourned to the end of the proceedings.


HEARD on November 12th, 1999.


DATED at Edmonton, Alberta this 21 day of December, 1999.


__________________________

W. BREITKREUZ

M.C. C.Q.B.A.

..............................




 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
last 2 ....
4. Team Trading Enterprises Ltd. v. Bergen (with hits)
Alberta : Court of Queen's Bench
Relevance: 52%, Size: 28 KB, Date: 19th December, 2000
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5. Income Tax Regulations, [C.R.C., c. 945] >> SCHEDULE VII (with hits)
Canada: Consolidated Regulations of Canada
Relevance: 50%, Size: 951 KB
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
good work.......
 
Posted by ocaster on :
 
I Believe Bill Gates has a few lawsuits pending against him as well.

Anyone in business knows. If you play the game long enough you're going to have a few come your way.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
last 2 ....
4. Team Trading Enterprises Ltd. v. Bergen (with hits)
Alberta : Court of Queen's Bench
Relevance: 52%, Size: 28 KB, Date: 19th December, 2000
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5. Income Tax Regulations, [C.R.C., c. 945] >> SCHEDULE VII (with hits)
Canada: Consolidated Regulations of Canada
Relevance: 50%, Size: 951 KB

Pennys, was the case ever brought to trial? Any judgements rendered? Was Urban or family ever found liable for any of the complaint?

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[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 20, 2004).]
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
Pennys, was the case ever brought to trial? Any judgements rendered? Was Urban or family ever found liable for any of the complaint?

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 20, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 20, 2004).]


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Noah,
I haven't had a chance to continue...
I was wondering if any of you all know any Casavant family members names?
I know there's Victor, Vicki, ect. I could really do some digging if I had the names.
Tina
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Ooooppss... I forgot to put the links in...

quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
last 2 ....
4. Team Trading Enterprises Ltd. v. Bergen (with hits)
Alberta : Court of Queen's Bench
Relevance: 52%, Size: 28 KB, Date: 19th December, 2000 http://www.canlii.org/ab/cas/abqb/2000/2000abqb963.html


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5. Income Tax Regulations, [C.R.C., c. 945] >> SCHEDULE VII (with hits)
Canada: Consolidated Regulations of Canada
Relevance: 50%, Size: 951 KB


http://www.canlii.org/ca/regu/crc945/part141920.html



 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Trading
Thanks for the DD. You certainly brought forth some interesting stuff. If anyone is invested beyond what they could not afford to lose, it would certainly seem advisable to take a hard look at cmkx. However, I only have 12 million shares and I'm having fun with this stock. I suppose you could publish that Urban just got arrested for robbing a bank and I would remain long. IMO people in this stock should be in with only funds that they would not mind losing at blackjack or such. Again, thanks for the DD. You do good work.
Don
 
Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
Noah what happen to byrd?
Send him all my best too. Thanks.

------------------
'Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much.' - Helen Keller
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Here you go Tradingpennys:

5) The Casavant Family consists of 22 members who are related to Urban Casavant. Their respective share holdings are reported separately from Urban Casavant. As a Group, the Casavant Family holds 10.7% of the Company's shares. Of this amount 100% are Rule 144 shares. There is no Casavant Family share pooling agreement, voting trust and/or other agreements relating to the shares in effect at this time. The Casavant Family includes: Albert Casavant (3,000,000); Brandy Casavant (2,000,000); Brad Casavant (500,000); Chantelle Casavant (2,000,000); Craig Casavant (2,000,000); Dale Casavant (50,000,000);Denise Casavant (30,000,000); Felix & Marlene Casavant (1,000,000); Gerry & Betty Casavant (300,000); Harvey & Gloria Casavant (1,000,000); Justin Casavant (2,000,000); Kyle Casavant (500,000); Marina Casavant (500,000); Max Casavant (10,000,000); Ray Casavant (3,000,000); Ron Casavant (30,000,000); Ryan Casavant (500,000); Trevor Casavant (2,000,000); and Vic Casavant (30,000,000).

This was copied from an old 14C filing of theirs.

 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TradingWizard:
Noah what happen to byrd?
Send him all my best too. Thanks.



Wiz, I have seen him posting over at p r o b o a r d s 32.

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Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
grasshopper, until there ARE daimonds, and I mean a LOT diamonds, this stock is nothing more than UC selling tickets to a show that may or may not actually have an opening night.....
anybody who says anything different is, to use your words, a MORON. at 483+ billion shares, you have to ignore a lot of DD to convince yourself this is a BUY......


Hey Glassman...the diamond statement is probably the only thing you've posted here that I've seen in the last couple of weeks that has made any sense. Until diamonds are found, we have nothing.

Could you clarify what amount of diamonds you believe we need in order to put a decent PPS on CMKX? Assuming you are right with the 483billion+ shares, what ratio of diamonds to tons of kimberlite would justify a play of the century?

The .5 carat / ton of kimberlite has been stated as an excellent ratio to warrant mining. Would that number be adequate, or maybe 1 carat/ton? The huge Ekati diamond find has come in at .9ct/ton with estimates rising to 1ct/ton. This is considered outstanding. Other minerals will enhance the find, for sure.
http://www.mining-technology.com/projects/ekati/

Although I wouldn't call people morons for having faith in this company, some posters may think otherwise. I'm betting on something big.

There is no reason for any on this board to get hostile. I read the posts and don't post much, but do get so frustrated when people criticize each other.

Until the diamond content is disclosed, we will be wandering around just in anticipation. It will take, in my opinion, another couple of months to get the core samples analyzed and the location of future research disclosed. Afterwards, it will be at least 2 years before we start mining. This will be an awesome stock play only if we find diamonds.

Thanks for pointing that out. Everything else is somewhat elementary.

 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Thanks for the list Upside!
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Hey Work,

Maybe this is how things get mixed up on this thread and things get started.

Re your post above to Glassman about "moron".
He was responding to the following post made by "Grasshopper":

Sorry folks, I just can't get enough of these jokers! I'll never claim to be any kind of trading wizard, but I feel that I can read into the intentions of the maroons that persistently post negativity on the board without backing it up with facts...
---------------------------------------------

It is important to read all the posts and references. Then, maybe, there will be some understanding of posts such as Glassman's.

No offense.


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WorkAHolic:

Hey Glassman...the diamond statement is probably the only thing you've posted here that I've seen in the last couple of weeks that has made any sense. Until diamonds are found, we have nothing.

Could you clarify what amount of diamonds you believe we need in order to put a decent PPS on CMKX? Assuming you are right with the 483billion+ shares, what ratio of diamonds to tons of kimberlite would justify a play of the century?

The .5 carat / ton of kimberlite has been stated as an excellent ratio to warrant mining. Would that number be adequate, or maybe 1 carat/ton? The huge Ekati diamond find has come in at .9ct/ton with estimates rising to 1ct/ton. This is considered outstanding. Other minerals will enhance the find, for sure.
http://www.mining-technology.com/projects/ekati/

Although I wouldn't call people morons for having faith in this company, some posters may think otherwise. I'm betting on something big.

There is no reason for any on this board to get hostile. I read the posts and don't post much, but do get so frustrated when people criticize each other.

Until the diamond content is disclosed, we will be wandering around just in anticipation. It will take, in my opinion, another couple of months to get the core samples analyzed and the location of future research disclosed. Afterwards, it will be at least 2 years before we start mining. This will be an awesome stock play only if we find diamonds.

Thanks for pointing that out. Everything else is somewhat elementary.


the only thing i've posted here that makes sense?????

sense to who?

you didn't read my posts PRIOR to the new OS where I TOLD YOU they were dumping shares on the market?

or that the NSS would NOT affect the PPS (if it even exists)

or that the dividends were just an elaborate form of even more dilution??


LOL......


 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
thanks noah I will try to find him
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
I found this on another board. I have a call into Nort Star and am waiting for a return call. I will post results IF I get a call-back. http://snipurl.com/9690

NSDM SELECTING J.V. PARTNERS FOR MANITOBA CLAIMS
BELLINGHAM , WA , September 15, 2004/PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/--

North Star Diamonds, Inc. (NQB Pink Sheets: NSDM) is reviewing proposals of potential joint venture partners for development of several Manitoba diamond claims.

While NSDM will be drilling several of its own claims this fall, the company is also considering joint venture partners to develop several additional claims. Presently, NSDM has over 110,000 acres of strategically claimed land and it will be physically and financially impossible to drill all the targets within the near future.

NSDM is acquiring additional land with the purpose of joint ventures in the future. Walter Stunder states “We expect this strategy to benefit NSDM shareholders since the land is acquired with the company’s newly developed Computer Assisted Geophysical System (CAGS).

Also, Walter Stunder is very pleased with the volume of diamond sales through the e-commerce website which has been operating successfully. NSDM is still on track to become profitable by the end of September.

NSDM is pleased to announce that the diamond inventory has been increased from $8,000,000 to $18,000,000. Further increases will be announced in the future.

For further information on NSDM, visit www.northstardiamonds.net

NOTE: Based on the above I contacted NSDM to see if they might give some info. (If you don't ask you don't receive.)


Dear XXXX

Yes, we are in contact with several companies, including UCAD and CMKS on several
joint ventures. An announcement will be made when a jv is concluded.

Regards,

Walter Stunder, President and CEO
North Star Diamonds, Inc.
***********************************************************

This speaks for itself, so I need not add to it.
This 'pulled' from Sterlings Board and speaks for itself. I am just posting it here.

BarTD67
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I cannot confirm nor deny that this person inquired with North Star about their JV inquiries. I, being the "proof is in the pudding-type" will email MY OWN inquiry to North Star and see if they give me the same answer. If they do, as yankdawg says, WHOOHOO! (I'm assuming CMKS is a typo).
DLil

_________________
Do you believe, or do you just say you believe? http://www.xenobuzz.com/






 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Oooops... My call to them was an inquiry about whether the JV companies included cmkm diamonds.
 
Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
I don't know if this is any good for you guys but I thought I share here. I received this notice from TDwaterhouse on Friday and here what it said:

CORPORATE ACTION NOTICE
September 9, 2004
Security Held: CMKM Diamonds Inc.
CUSIP: XXXXXX
Corporate Action Event: Stock Distribution
Record Date: August 31, 2004
Payable Date: October 1, 2004

TERMS AND CONDITIONS
We have received notification that the company has declared a stock distribution, which is effected by the issuance to shareholders as of record date, 0.0256 of restricted share of Casavant International Mining for each common share of CMKM Diamonds Inc. held. The status of fractional shares has yet to be determined.

 


Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
the only thing i've posted here that makes sense?????

sense to who?

you didn't read my posts PRIOR to the new OS where I TOLD YOU they were dumping shares on the market?

or that the NSS would NOT affect the PPS (if it even exists)

or that the dividends were just an elaborate form of even more dilution??


LOL......



I stand by my statement. That's (finding diamonds) the only thing that makes sense to ME. I'm the only one I want to impress. Your statements are only elaborate forms of theory. You have no proof of dumping nor do you have any proof that the NSS will not affect this stock. Show it to all of us. Don't for one minute think that I don't have a grasp on this stock. You make statements as fact, yet they are not fact. Only assumptions. I've read your posts. I don't necessarily agree with all of them.

Why the defensive statements. You are laughing at what?

I'll give you a fact. Your posts have been so tainted that I believe most people don't even care to read them.

Hey Wallace...I don't think Glassman needs for you to defend him. What makes you think you can, anyway.

You guys have affectively made this board hard to come back to and read. I guess that's what you set out to do.

Congratulations...

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Posted by Upside on :
 
Does anyone have the phone # for the Nevada Sec. of State that was posted a month or so ago? It was the number you could call to get the o/s of any company domiciled in Nevada. I want to call to see if their o/s is still at 800 billion or if it's been raised to 1.5 trillion.
 
Posted by right42day on :
 
I think this is the phone number. If this company CMKM Casavart Mining is incorporated in Nevada, then the commercial section of our office in Carson City might have the information for you. Their tel. no. is 800-450-8594 and ask to be forwarded to the corporation or commercial section or (775)684-5708.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Thanks right42day, I called the 775 area code # direct and that was the right #. I spoke with a woman named Diana. She told me that as of 8/18 the a/s was 800 billion. I asked her how current her information was and she said they're about a month behind in updating the files so if the a/s was changed again after 8/18, she probably would not have that information yet. I also asked her if there was any legal limit on the amount a company could authorize. She said no as Nevada is an unregulated state.
 
Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WorkAHolic:

I stand by my statement. That's (finding diamonds) the only thing that makes sense to ME. I'm the only one I want to impress. Your statements are only elaborate forms of theory. You have no proof of dumping nor do you have any proof that the NSS will not affect this stock. Show it to all of us. Don't for one minute think that I don't have a grasp on this stock. You make statements as fact, yet they are not fact. Only assumptions. I've read your posts. I don't necessarily agree with all of them.

Why the defensive statements. You are laughing at what?

I'll give you a fact. Your posts have been so tainted that I believe most people don't even care to read them.

Hey Wallace...I don't think Glassman needs for you to defend him. What makes you think you can, anyway.

You guys have affectively made this board hard to come back to and read. I guess that's what you set out to do.

Congratulations...

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Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TradingWizard:
I don't know if this is any good for you guys but I thought I share here. I received this notice from TDwaterhouse on Friday and here what it said:

CORPORATE ACTION NOTICE
September 9, 2004
Security Held: CMKM Diamonds Inc.
CUSIP: XXXXXX
Corporate Action Event: Stock Distribution
Record Date: August 31, 2004
Payable Date: October 1, 2004

TERMS AND CONDITIONS
We have received notification that the company has declared a stock distribution, which is effected by the issuance to shareholders as of record date, 0.0256 of restricted share of Casavant International Mining for each common share of CMKM Diamonds Inc. held. The status of fractional shares has yet to be determined.


Hello TW, I was wondering if the CMKX pps would be augmented by .0256 on 10/1 if there will indeed be distribution?

 


Posted by thecwexperience76 on :
 
Hi guys...this is the closest i may ever sound like a basher...(just fyi my old name was the cwexperience but cannot figure out for the life of me how to get my old password...in case anyone wants to research my posts) ...i got an idea from a poster on rb and from a post by zen to cancel my registration of the shareholders party in vegas...
*******
here's some reading material....i apologize if this is redundant:
------------------------ http://www.ragingbull. (remove break)lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=83589

Posted by: zeninvestor32
In reply to: ACTX who wrote msg# 13434 Date:9/20/2004 11:10:08 AM
Post #of 13458

ACTX I AGREE

CMKX's visa card is another exercise in pathetic futility. The fees are outrageous and why do I want one when the stock is .0003. And why am I sounding acidic towards all this? Because I have NO PROBLEM if everyone calls and cancels their vegas plans and nobody signs up for the visa. Let that be a clear communication to management that in the future we would appreciate it if they stop all the BS marketing until there is a REASON for these things to exist. What's next? Setting up a charity for us to donate our as-of-yet-unrealized profits to?


Z
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now...here is my email:
Subj: About UCAD/CMKX Party
Date: 9/20/04 12:12:03 PM US Eastern Standard Time
From: TheCWExperience
To: chris@uscanadianminerals.com
CC: TheCWExperience


hi...unfortunately due to the lack of progression of cmkx...the party of 6 for'c weekes' under the email of 'thecwexperience@hotmail.com' will be canceling registration....the expenses associated with attending the vegas party for the 6 members of our family is not feasible...the raffle for a kia or a debit card that can be obtained in conjunction with banking services IS NOT an incentive...however i will be watching the company and if changes are evident the trip will be up for reconsideration....hopefully in the future i can address the company in a more positive note..thanks for your time
**************

In conclusion...
Now maybe i'm pms'ing or it's too close to time & can't see the forest for the trees....i apologize if my post offends what the company is trying to accomplish...but i'd be a liar if i did not express some degree of dissatisfaction...note i said degree...please board do not banish me or anything *smile* ...i needed to get this off of my chest...thank you guys for listening.....

***BTW 6.8 MIL & HOLDING TIGHT!!****


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Posted by HarryHar on :
 
Can someone who understands all that was posted about the lawsuits summarize for us non-legal people what exactly Urban was being sued for, and what Urban later was suing for? Thanks in advance. I read over it but I'm still in the clouds...
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Thanks right42day, I called the 775 area code # direct and that was the right #. I spoke with a woman named Diana. She told me that as of 8/18 the a/s was 800 billion. I asked her how current her information was and she said they're about a month behind in updating the files so if the a/s was changed again after 8/18, she probably would not have that information yet. I also asked her if there was any legal limit on the amount a company could authorize. She said no as Nevada is an unregulated state.

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Unregulated state ... hmm.. that's probly why Urban selected Nevada. I think he is going to play this(/us) to the hilt. He obviously has had plenty of practice. And it appears his whole family knows how to WORK IT!
No wonder he hired Glenn. When Glenn was brought into the picture, that was a red flag. I have never thought of Glenn working for "us". In all actuality Glenn could be working against "us". In CYA'ing Urban and all his accumilated millions.
I doubt this company will be reporting EVER. Once someone lies to you they will do it again. Lies and deception are basically the same thing. We have experienced both from this company and then they ask "us" to trust "them". YEAH RIGHT! <gggggrrrrrrooowwwlllllll>
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Tina,

Sssshhhhh! You might disturb the posters who think Glenn walks on water! And, Glenn might just get a bit soggy if they begin to question his priorities. LOL
 


Posted by pharmdman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
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Unregulated state ... hmm.. that's probly why Urban selected Nevada. I think he is going to play this(/us) to the hilt. He obviously has had plenty of practice. And it appears his whole family knows how to WORK IT!
No wonder he hired Glenn. When Glenn was brought into the picture, that was a red flag. I have never thought of Glenn working for "us". In all actuality Glenn could be working against "us". In CYA'ing Urban and all his accumilated millions.
I doubt this company will be reporting EVER. Once someone lies to you they will do it again. Lies and deception are basically the same thing. We have experienced both from this company and then they ask "us" to trust "them". YEAH RIGHT! <gggggrrrrrrooowwwlllllll>


That's a possibility. However, you can't assume that every company registered in Nevada is a scam just because of the lack of regulation. Otherwise, you must think that Delaware happens to be at the center of the banking world because of an abundance of office space and wealth of local talent rather than less regulation and better tax laws for financial institutions.

It's all about perspective. I'm not convinced that this isn't a scam yet, but I'm not convinced that it is either. Considering that I bought in at .0001, I'm comfortable with sitting and waiting. Good luck to us all.

 


Posted by Tgrant on :
 
I dont own this stock or realy follow the thread, but this past weekend I was in Reading pennsylvania for the Lucas oil Nationals. when I was walking through the pits i saw the CMKX extreme machine. i was very surpsrised to see it, they were running in the event. they also had a big rig and a hummer h2 all letered up with "casavant mining, got cmkx?" just thought I would let you all know, good luck
 
Posted by pharmdman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tgrant:
I dont own this stock or realy follow the thread, but this past weekend I was in Reading pennsylvania for the Lucas oil Nationals. when I was walking through the pits i saw the CMKX extreme machine. i was very surpsrised to see it, they were running in the event. they also had a big rig and a hummer h2 all letered up with "casavant mining, got cmkx?" just thought I would let you all know, good luck

Thanks for the info, Tgrant!
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by HarryHar:
Can someone who understands all that was posted about the lawsuits summarize for us non-legal people what exactly Urban was being sued for, and what Urban later was suing for? Thanks in advance. I read over it but I'm still in the clouds...

Harry, it is very difficult to get this whole story, having only chapters 2,3 and 4 of a five or more chapter story.

Missing are the original complaint which would have spelled out the charges. Also missing is the last chapter, the courts final judgement. These are the two most important documents to have.

From chapter two (para 16), we get an idea of what occured:

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[16] The defendants allege that the transactions that give rise to the claim in these proceedings arose out of a decision in June 1998 to acquire the shares of Radar, basically a dormant shell that owned some ammonite properties in northern Saskatchewan, to use as a structure to develop a mining venture in northern Saskatchewan. A group of investors agreed to buy the control block of Radar from John Bergen. The agreements were that Bergen would transfer 2.5 million shares to 5 individuals, who did not include Urban Casavant, but did include Casavant’s wife, children, brother-in-law, and Ken Hodgson. The consideration paid for the shares at that time was 4 cents a share. According to the defendants, at the end of July 1998, the first payment on the Bergen block was made, and half the shares in the Bergen control block were delivered. The defendants allege that when the stock of Radar increased from 10 cents to 80 cents a share, all the new owners of the control block wanted to do a private placement in Colorado. They then allege that the relationship among the members of the control block broke down in late 1998. The defendants allege that there was an informal pooling arrangement in place pursuant to which all members of the group would wait for the stock to reach $10.00 per share before selling any. The defendants allege that not all parties respected the pooling agreement, some sold their shares into the market, and the allegations and counter allegations began.

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From this it appears that a group of investors decided to acquire Radar Acquisition Corp. The defendant White Bear Construction and Logsdons are one of those investors. Other invevstors pay in dollars and or equipment and a puchase is made of Radar. There is an agreement between investors not to sell any shares until it reaches $10 per share. Some of those investors allegedly breach that agreement and the deal falls apart. White Bear sues, and Urban responds that nothing was done to offend White Bear, quite the contrary, it is implied that White Bear is one of those breaching the restrictions on selling.

Without the final judgement, we have no idea who is the offending party in this matter. I hope Pennys is able to find the rest, because it certainly isn't fair to UC and family to simpley put out half of an allegation without all of the facts.

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 20, 2004).]
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
I agree Noah, I'd like to know more of the details surrounding these cases. Either way though, what's disturbing is when you read through both the White Bear and the Team Trading cases, both of them mention stock manipulation on the part of Urban. That tells me something about the man right there.
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
WELL YOU ALL SURPRIZE ME WALLACE SAYS GOOD INFO ON THE LAWSUIT POST. WELL FOR SOMEONE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE SOOOO SMART. THE PLAINTIFF IS NOT THE GUY THAT IS GETTING SUED HE HIS THE ONE THAT IS SUING. THE DEFENDANT IS THE ONE THAT IS GETTING SUED. URBAN IS THE PLAINTIFF NOT THE DEFENDANT GOOD GRASPING AT STRAWS HOWEVER. NICE TRY AT A BASH BUT TRY READING A LITTLE CLOSER.
WOW HA HA HA LOL
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
URBAN WAS THE PLAINTIFF NOT THE DEFENDANT. HE WAS NOT BEING SUED HE WAS SUING READ CLOSER
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
URBAN CASAVANT


Plaintiff


- and -


JOHN BERGEN


Defendant

THAT MEANS JOHN BERGEN WAS BEING SUED BY URBAN
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
OH AND DONT PAY TO MUCH ATTENTION TO MARKET WATCH OR STOCK PATROL THEY ALWAYS POST NEGATIVE THEORIES ON CMKX. REMEMBER THAT THERE IS ALWAYS NEG SPECULATION AS WELL AS POSITIVE.

AND I STILL CANT GET OVER THE FACT THAT YOU ALL DONT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PLAINTIFF AND A DEFENDANT WOW!!!!
 


Posted by Upside on :
 


IN THE COURT OF QUEEN'S BENCH OF ALBERTA

JUDICIAL DISTRICT OF EDMONTON

BETWEEN:


WHITE BEAR CONSTRUCTION LTD., KEN HODGSON

AND SHARON HODGSON


Plaintiffs

- and -

URBAN CASAVANT, ALLAN MOEN, MCM MINERALS INC.,

FULL TIME MANAGEMENT INC., AND PAN PACIFIC GEM

INDUSTRY (TIANJIN) CO., LTD.


Defendants


In this case (white Bear) he was a defendant.
 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
Good catch sdr..

I didn't bother going through the pasted info and I believed UC was a defendant.

(I still didn't read)

[This message has been edited by TruthTeller (edited September 20, 2004).]
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
why didnt you post that one first hmmm confusing. and where is the docket number and the date. and while your at it why not post a link. the first case sure did have alot of info but that last post you made looked a little fishy please post a link. and remember folks defendent is the guy getting sued. please post the link
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
oh that supposed email came across allstocks a couple months ago. check the other threads. wierd they would email that to you again after so long. they must not like you and decided to make you wait for that email. when I get some time I will get the page and the thread of that same exact post but since it was a while ago it will take some time.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
sdrobert wrote:
WELL YOU ALL SURPRIZE ME WALLACE SAYS GOOD INFO ON THE LAWSUIT POST. WELL FOR SOMEONE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE SOOOO SMART. THE PLAINTIFF IS NOT THE GUY THAT IS GETTING SUED HE HIS THE ONE THAT IS SUING. THE DEFENDANT IS THE ONE THAT IS GETTING SUED. URBAN IS THE PLAINTIFF NOT THE DEFENDANT GOOD GRASPING AT STRAWS HOWEVER. NICE TRY AT A BASH BUT TRY READING A LITTLE CLOSER.
WOW HA HA HA LOL
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tradingpennys wrote:
White Bear Construction Ltd. v. Casavant, 1999 ABQB 1013
Date: 19991222
Action No. 9903 03107
IN THE COURT OF QUEEN'S BENCH OF ALBERTA
JUDICIAL DISTRICT OF EDMONTON
BETWEEN:
WHITE BEAR CONSTRUCTION LTD., KEN HODGSON
AND SHARON HODGSON
Plaintiffs
- and -
URBAN CASAVANT, ALLAN MOEN, MCM MINERALS INC.,
FULL TIME MANAGEMENT INC., AND PAN PACIFIC GEM
INDUSTRY (TIANJIN) CO., LTD.
Defendants
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Sorry to disappoint you sdrobert, but I did not say "good job" as much as I agree that it was a good job. That was Glassman.

No offense, but "try reading a little closer"? LMAO

Looks like the above one group sued and UC and others countersued.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 20, 2004).]
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
sdrobert

complaintiff

lol
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
ok sorry my mistake I get you two confused sometimes.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Here's your link sdrobert:
http://www.canlii.org/ab/cas/abqb/1999/1999abqb1013.html



 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
I will have to check the link and see what the outcome was
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
you guys through me off a bit
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 

sdrobert wrote:
ok sorry my mistake I get you two confused sometimes.
---------------------------------------------

No problem sdrobert, but do "try to read a little closer". LOL

Closer reading would also have informed you that UC and others were also defendants.

 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
the divy for UCAD stated by etrade will be for every 130,950 shares of cmkx you own you will get 1 share of ucad should be paid sept 24

divy for casavant intl mining.

for each share of cmkx you will recieve .0256 of casavant intl mining
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
In an earlier PR our esteemed council declared that CMKX had no pending litigation. It is a clean company. Hope that helps. You fellows can do the DD and find it pretty easily so I wont post the link.

If you really want to find positive DD. The outcome of the above suit was I believe a wash if I remember right.

Because some parties refused to follow through on the purchase of the stock then the whole thing was off, thus the agreement to hold the shares was null. If I remember right.
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Justhis1ce:
Hello TW, I was wondering if the CMKX pps would be augmented by .0256 on 10/1 if there will indeed be distribution?

Hi Justhis1ce, that probably would be nice, but I really don't know. Just there has been so much happening with CMKX that I kind of lost track - just getting these notices in the mail and lurking from time to time here. Right now I just in for a long term - I still think something will come out of this. So far as the UCAD divident I got the same notice, but there is nothing in my account yet. Oh well...and good luck to you.
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Found some more info. after running a search on this web site: INFO TSX Venture
go down the page to "Urban Casavant" you will see a list of businesses -
Casavant, Urban A.
J-Pacific Gold Inc.
*Claimstaker Resources Ltd.
*Northern Star Resources Inc.
*Petro Plus Inc. http://www.cdnx.com/LCDB/LCDBSearch.asp?sPersonName=casa&sType4=S&sMode=S&sBasketId=&Go%21.x=11&Go%21.y=7


 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
In the above link I posted ... take a look at some of the other "Casavant" names/links.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
From another board, looks like the basher tactics may be changing. Be alert

georgeburns

New basher tactics.
« Thread started on: Today at 3:47pm »

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I think the bashers on this board have realized old tactics will not work. The shareholders on this board are too strong.

They realize that they can't get you to simply sell.

They seem to be shifting to a new tactic. They are going to try to get you to sell on the initial run. They are going to reinforce the short squeeze by getting more people to sell at lower levels. They are going to try to make you think that CMKX is going to run and then drop back into the dirt like it did the last time.

Not going to happen.

Food for thought.
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
LOL.....that's a good one Noah....

 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Is this Friday still the day of reckoning for the shorts or has that been changed?
 
Posted by will on :
 
Let this son-of-b|tch run again, and NO ONE will have to MAKE me sell. I'll be gone quicker than you can say basher, pumper, candlestickmaker.

 
Posted by will on :
 
Of course not, Upman. Dividends are customarily paid 30 days after record date. CMKX failed to announce a firm pay date. So, if it doesn't happen even if the dividend is paid I'm sure there will be a reason for the squeeze of the century to not have happened, if it doesn't.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Is this Friday still the day of reckoning for the shorts or has that been changed?


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
So even if they pay the dividend on Friday and the stock goes nowhere, the sentiment is still that the naked short position exists?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i'm still a little unclear on why they can wait till the delivery date to cover. i know somebody came up with the idea that the date of record doesn't matter, but: if it doesn't, why have one? LOL

the dividend may follow the shares, but you should be able to track YOUR (dividend) shares down and get them back....
that's the way it's supposed to work....
i've done it....

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited September 20, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
It's always a moving target here. Tell me you two haven't noticed. LOL

Upside
Member posted September 20, 2004 21:54
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So even if they pay the dividend on Friday and the stock goes nowhere, the sentiment is still that the naked short position exists?
IP: Logged

glassman
Member posted September 20, 2004 21:55
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i'm still a little unclear on why they can wait till the delivery date to cover. i know somebody came up with the idea that the date of record doesn't matter, but: if it doesn't why have one? LOL

 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Of course we've noticed. I guess more than anything I'd just like to see some of these wild theories put to rest. But, when you've got so many people who have bet the house, family, and future on this stock, they'll keep coming up with new ones right up to the end.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
don't forget the mortgage on the orphanage...LOL
 
Posted by will on :
 
Only an apologetic PR and a padlock are going to make them say, "UNCLE".

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Of course we've noticed. I guess more than anything I'd just like to see some of these wild theories put to rest. But, when you've got so many people who have bet the house, family, and future on this stock, they'll keep coming up with new ones right up to the end.


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
45000 shareholders and only a couple of bashers...we must be pretty good.....
 
Posted by will on :
 
Paid bashers, lol. Where's my frigging check. I can't believe how foolheartedly some people can be. Disagree with their hopes, not even their position based on fact, but just mere hopes, and you're a basher.

quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
45000 shareholders and only a couple of bashers...we must be pretty good.....


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
you guys should check out SMTR.....
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Paid bashers, lol. Where's my frigging check. I can't believe how foolheartedly some people can be. Disagree with their hopes, not even their position based on fact, but just mere hopes, and you're a basher.


you think this is bad, you should try politics...LOL


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by glassman:
quote:
you guys should check out SMTR.....

Nice run today on favorable news. Looks like it still might have some legs. Thanks for the tip glass!
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Is this Friday still the day of reckoning for the shorts or has that been changed?


No one but UC and Glenn know for sure. Guess we'll see.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
What's your opinion Noah, assuming the dividend is paid?
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Of course we've noticed. I guess more than anything I'd just like to see some of these wild theories put to rest. But, when you've got so many people who have bet the house, family, and future on this stock, they'll keep coming up with new ones right up to the end.


Bet the house??? I haven't seen anyone who announced their holdings, that have bet more than a few hundred to a couple thousand, except Debi. That's why no one is turning loose of their shares for a long time.

If this stock, makes a run, I have added shares to my originial holding block, to have for turning a quick profit, but that will be all until I see what the future has in store. I could care less about the NSS or quick profits, I want to see DIAMONDS. And I will hold until I hear the awful words. "No diamonds on hundreds of drilled sites. Gonna pull out the drills and go home."


 


Posted by offshoretrader on :
 
Hey glass you sure are posting alot on this board for someone who does not trade pinks
whats up with that???

offshore
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
you think this is bad, you should try politics...LOL


Don't flatter yourself.
The definition of a dividend is as follows...
1 : an individual share of something distributed: as a : a share in a pro rata distribution (as of profits) to stockholders b : a share of surplus allocated to a policyholder in a participating insurance policy
2 a : a resultant return or reward b : BONUS
3 a : a number to be divided b : a sum or fund to be divided and distributed
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2 b...BONUS... is how I look at a this.
I invested on CMKX not expecting to find any dividends.I invested in CMKX to find diamonds.And I'm not going anywhere untill they do.I know that they'er up there.Companies are pulling 'em out of there all the time.All around CMKX.When I bought in,I didn't even know what a naked short was.But I do now,and I don't think anything would make anyone cover any faster than a good diamond haul.
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
IF A SHORT EXISTS !
Only one logical way to fix it.
Remove the trading ability of CMKX stock.
The MM has an infinate muber of ways and plenty of time.
No hard cash has yet been required only shares. If you can short one you can probably short other related also.
VAN
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
What's your opinion Noah, assuming the dividend is paid?


If the dividend is paid, my opinion is that I'll be very happy with 115 free shares of UCAD @ about $5.00 a share. (If the OTC BB numbers are correct) I can wait a year if necessary to cash in. UCAD seems like a pretty stable company.


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by offshoretrader:
Hey glass you sure are posting alot on this board for someone who does not trade pinks
whats up with that???

offshore



one day somebody posted an alert on the naked short of the century...
i started doing some DD, came over here to politely offer my opinion and got smacked...LOL now i feel obligated to drop in once in a while make sure the pumpers are being somewhat reasonable...LOL

 


Posted by AoneFischer on :
 
I m new to stock game I have been reading this board for at lest 3 months but never post anything. I had a thought. If St geogres minerals is giving us 200,000,000,000 ristricted shares and the pps for SGGM is .31 as of today wouldnt that be $62,000,000,000 investest into cmkx?That would be a lot of money for a company to invest if this stock was worthless.
What is the deal with restricted shares can someone please explain to me the difference. I hope to learn a lot from this experiece and hoping cmkx will come through big, and if it doesnt well I enjoyed the ride. I will say that some of you peeps on here get a little worked up. This about make money not dictating your life. Money is the root of all evil ya know ...
Restricted shares.....?????????
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Aone, in this case, the shares are "restricted" from sale for one year. The company can remove that restriction if it so desires, but otherwise, you must hold them for a year before selling them.

Some of us "peeps" get excited when the personal attacks start. Others get offended if you don't accept their wise advice, and get personal. I don't think it has anything to do with the money when folks get excited in here. It's a pride issue, and that "cometh before the fall".

BTW, it's not money that is the root of all evil, but the "love" of money that is.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Will wrote:
"...basher..." Thought you were talking about me at first. LOL

noahltl wrote:
UCAD seems like a pretty stable company.

????????????
At least they file with the SEC, but "pretty stable"? Have you checked their fundamentals?
 


Posted by AoneFischer on :
 
yea your right, the love of money is the root of all evil.. i like your posts noah and i have a lot of faith in this company
................so are the shares worth that much........$62,000,000,000 or know?

 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
And did anyone notice when CMKX just said the word 'diamondiferuos' how fast this stocks pps rose?So I'm going to try it...diamondiferuos,diamondiferuos,diamondiferuos,diamondiferuos,diamondiferuos...NOW RAISE,pps,RAISE!
Oh well,it was worth a try.

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited September 20, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Aone, it's just my opinion, but I think we may see CMKX moved into SGGM at some point. Their AS is 950 billion. After giving CMKX 200 billion, they now have approx 750 billion left to issue. If the CMKX OS is about 800 billion as some suspect, this number is about perfect for a one to one trade with CMKX shareholders. As far as the evaluation of those shares given to uCMKX, they are restricted and cannot be sold for a year. So they will not have any actual or tradeable value for a year or until the restriction is removed. If or when that restriction is removed and 200 billion shares become tradeable, the pps will drop like a ton of bricks, if real value has not been established in SGGM that would justify that kind of pps.

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 20, 2004).]
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
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[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited September 20, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Don't forget tomorrows big debate:

********************************************


CMKX RADIO DEBATE: Green Baron versus Stock Patrol
Tuesday, Sept. 21, 2004
2:30 PST at http://www.familyvaluesradio.com/index.html


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Ohhhhhhhhhh it ought to be good.Could you tape it for me Noah.Just kidding.I'm sure I can find the replay,I got to work tomarrow.I'm gone.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Wonder about why our core sample results are taking so long? Look what our Shore Gold neighbors are saying about core sample manipulations by the "big boys".


bluediamonds
Global Moderator
Re: Debeers was hiding core results
« Reply #1 on: Today at 7:04pm »

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Just what I've been saying to detwin and other naysayers (bashers?):

SGSA Update
The following letter was submitted to the Competition Bureau of Industry Canada by a Shore Gold investor and a member of the Shore Gold Shareholders Association. The member requested that this letter be posted on the Shore Gold Shareholders Association website for the interest of other investors. It is not necessarily the opinions of all members of the Association.

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From: [removed]
To: compbureau@ic.gc.ca
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 6:49 AM
Subject: Complaint re: reporting of results of diamond drill-cores, Kensington mining JV

Good morning. My name is [removed]. I am from [removed]. I am an investor in a junior diamond-exploration company in Saskatchewan called Shore Gold, Inc. This company staked a claim to property in the Fort a la Corne area of Saskatchewan (about 50 km east of Prince Albert) in approximately 1995, when the Saskatchewan Government released the Crown Land for mining exploration, when it was no longer needed (a dam had been planned that was deemed unnecessary, I infer). Shore Gold beat its competitors (a joint venture operation) to the punch by having one of its employees stay up all night so that Shore Gold could be "first in line" when the land-claims office opened for business the morning after the announcement. This story may be apocryphal, but it underscores the competitiveness of exploration in this area because of favourable aerial magnetic surveys that had suggested the presence of Kimberlite, the diamond-bearing rock named after the original deposits discovered in South Africa a century or more ago.

Kensington Mining, out of Vancouver, is in a joint-venture operation with its partners, Monopros (the Canadian DeBeers subsidiary) and two minor partners. Each of the aforenamed majors holds 38% of the joint venture. I believe they have been drilling on an exploratory basis since about 1990. Their property is immediately-adjacent to Shore Gold's property.

I became an investor in Shore Gold in late May or early June after the stock was recommended by a small-cap mutual-fund manager wrote about his favourite speculative plays in the mining industry. His name is Bob Boaz, and he manages University Avenue Mutual Funds in Toronto. I had done extensive "due diligence" on the stock, including reading the "bull-boards" on "Stockhouse.ca", an internet website dedicated to investing in stock-markets around the world. Some investors post messages on the message-board (aforementioned "bullboards"). Their comments were that the management of Shore Gold, including the Chief Executive Officer (CEO) Ken McNeil, had done an excellent job in exploring the property they had staked out, and that the "Star Kimberlite", a geological formation they had mapped out with aerial-magnetic survey results and with ground survey results, showed real promise in becoming a mineable area. Diamond drill-core samples had been pulled out of the ground (using two different calibres of drilling, the larger approximating 3 3/4 inches, and these drill-core samples had been sent away to Kennecot Mining's assay laboratory in Thunder Bay. Earlier smaller drill-core samples showed the presence of macrodiamonds (diamonds with size of 0.5 mm or more in any one of its dimensions) a finding that warrants further exploration by means of "bulk sampling", or analysing a large sample of rock mined with a 24" drill, a much more expensive proposition.

The basis of my COMPLAINT to you has to do with the Joint Venture Kensington mining, which is immediately next-door to the Shore Gold site. In fact, it looks like the two exploration-companies may overlie the same geological formation. Kensington's diamond drill-core results were consistently reported as NOT containing mineable grades of diamonds. They had been assayed at one of the partners' laboratories, as I understand it, Monopros' laboratory in, I believe, Edmonton. When Shore Gold reported results that warranted larger calibre drill-core testing of the "Star Kimberlite" formation Kensington is purported to have demanded of its partners that the samples be retested. Upon retesting of the samples, or at least of the tailings of the samples (dammit, Jim, I'm a doctor, not a bloody Mining Engineer!), lo and behold, the results revealed that, by gum, there WERE mineable quantities of macrodiamonds, so much so that the joint venture immediately announced that they were proceeding to a bulk-sample test with a 24" drill! Moreover Kensington has demanded of its partner(s) that the other samples dating to 1997 and possibly right back to 1990 be retested by a different laboratory. I infer that any reputable mining concern retains portions of the core-samples in a "library" for just this purpose. Kensington also demanded that they retain the right to have any bulk-sample material tested in a laboratory of its own choosing, should they so desire.

A number of investors in Shore Gold have expressed their concern and alarm about the propriety of the actions of certain partners in the Kensington joint venture. In light of what is perceived as aggressive actions by DeBeers (Monopros' parent) in the takeover of Winspear Resources at Snap Lake in the NWT (hostile takeover), speculation has grown that Monopros was restricting competition by attempting to sequester favourable results at the Kensington joint venture at Fort a la Corne. Some posters have launched their own informal investigation by contacting the mining consultant who lives in Belgium to ask what the likelihood is that repeated samples would fail to reveal their contents in a reputable lab like Monopros'. They were told that the Sortex machine used to recover diamonds, when properly calibrated, recovers 99% of the diamonds present in a sample, especially when used in tandem with a "grease table", apparently standard-procedure in an assay-laboratory. Even when the diamonds are deemed to be "low-reflective" under a polarized light (I'm way over my head here) the Sortex table recovers 90% of the diamonds in the sample. The mining consultant was non-commital regarding an opinion about the apparent discrepancy in the Kensington joint-venture reports.

My COMPLAINT is that Monopros appears to have "botched" or "fudged" the results of the drill-core samples in order to control supply and demand of diamonds as part of their participation in the "diamond cartel" that operates throughout the world. Canada is projected to become one of the main diamond-mining countries in the 21st century. DeBeers wants to retain its status as the largest diamond-mining company in the world. They have already launched hostile takeovers of Winspear Resources, and Ashton mining (an Australian mining company with properties in Canada). They own 38% of the Kensington joint-venture. This is expected to rise to 45% after the completion of the bulk-sampling because Monopros, their subsidiary, is paying the lion's share of the bulk-sample costs. I believe Monopros/DeBeers wanted the diamonds in Fort a la Corne to lie fallow until it suited them to exploit the resource. In my opinion, this is a form of restricting competition. The basis of my complaint rests on the issue of the "fudging" of the results. I believe that this warrants an investigation by the Competition Bureau. How often are results of drill-core samples incorrect? Why does it appear that this occurred on samples dating back at least to 1997, if not 1990? Does the mining consultant (Luc Rombuts (sp?)) in Belgium have an explanation?

I would be pleased to supply the reference material to assist you in an investigation, if you deem it appropriate to proceed. One internet website from England has reported the story, and they are very critical of what has gone on at the Kensington joint-venture. Their name is Minesite.com, and the URL is http://minesite.com . May I suggest that you begin there?

My full address and telephone/fax numbers are:

[removed]
http://www.yourbc.com/shore/news-001.html
 


Posted by lanebro on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tgrant:
I dont own this stock or realy follow the thread, but this past weekend I was in Reading pennsylvania for the Lucas oil Nationals. when I was walking through the pits i saw the CMKX extreme machine. i was very surpsrised to see it, they were running in the event. they also had a big rig and a hummer h2 all letered up with "casavant mining, got cmkx?" just thought I would let you all know, good luck

Extreme Machine has had this set-up for a while now, the Hummer looks real trick, doesn't it? Those decals/paint cost a pretty penny. I cannot believe how many handout packs they give up. I swear, EVERY person that walks by gets one thrust into their arms. When I saw so many simply tossed in the trash by uninterested parties.... what a wa$te. It is tradition to gather your own hero cards; YOUR own favorites to support. I admire their boldness. I woudn't have the guts to hawk like that.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Using tradingpennys sources, I was able to dig up some info of interest.

Vici (Casavant) Curran – IR at SGGM

Curran, Kevin Patrick *Northern Star Resources Inc. *Petro Plus Inc (the outfit that UC was with).

Note that UC also listed with Northern Star Resources
Note that Beverly Ann Casavant also listed with Northern Star Resources
Note: See below results for Northern Star Resources.

Officers/Directors SGGM:
Robertson, C. B. Atikokan Resources Inc. *St. George Metals, Inc.

Barry, Frank R. Williams Creek Explorations Limited *St. George Metals, Inc.

Nesbit, Harrison Horseshoe Gold Mining Inc. *St. George Metals, Inc.

James A. McGlasson – not available

Wade, Neal O. *St. George Metals, Inc.

Hoffman, William H. *St. George Metals, Inc.
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Looked up Northern Star Resources. It brought up Explor Resources Inc (CDNX). Officers/Directors as follows:
Position
Duane Michael Studer Director of the Board
Secretary/Treasurer
Randall Thomas Studer President
Director of the Board
Robert Ayotte Director of the Board
Q: Wasn't Randall Studer also involved with that company UC left under unknown circumstances? Petro Plus?
Q: Not sure, but isn't Studer also involved with the drilling company CMKX is using?

Not finished digging. Let's see what we can find on Explor Resources Inc (CDNX).
-------------
Found Explor Res Inc with symbol of CA:EXS...not much information.


[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 21, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 21, 2004).]
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Release of Explor Resources Inc.

EXPLOR RESOURCES INC. ("EXS")
[formerly Odaat Inc. ("ODT.A")]
BULLETIN TYPE: Name Change and Consolidation
BULLETIN DATE: January 28, 2004
TSX Venture Tier 2 Company

Pursuant to a special resolution passed by shareholders December 29, 2003, the Company has consolidated its capital on a 4 old for 1 new basis. The name of the Company has also been changed from Odaat Inc. to Explor Resources Inc.

Effective at the opening Thursday January 29, 2004, the common shares of Explor Resources Inc. will commence trading on TSX Venture Exchange, and the common shares of Odaat Inc. will be delisted. The Company is classified as a 'Mining (Except Oil & Gas)' company.

Post - Consolidation
Capitalization: Unlimited shares with no par value of which
1,873,562 shares are issued and outstanding
Escrow: 8,300 shares

Information earlier showed Gregory Leia as their lawyer. I think he was the lawyer for UC et al in that litigation posted by tradingpennys. Also note Odaat Inc...was also listed under Beverly Casavant.

 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
[B]Using tradingpennys sources, I was able to dig up some info of interest.

Vici (Casavant) Curran – IR at SGGM

Curran, Kevin Patrick *Northern Star Resources Inc. *Petro Plus Inc (the outfit that UC was with).

Note that UC also listed with Northern Star Resources
Note that Beverly Ann Casavant also listed with Northern Star Resources
Note: See below results for Northern Star Resources.

Officers/Directors SGGM:
Robertson, C. B. Atikokan Resources Inc. *St. George Metals, Inc.

Barry, Frank R. Williams Creek Explorations Limited *St. George Metals, Inc.

Nesbit, Harrison Horseshoe Gold Mining Inc. *St. George Metals, Inc.

James A. McGlasson – not available

Wade, Neal O. *St. George Metals, Inc.

Hoffman, William H. *St. George Metals, Inc.
-------------
Looked up Northern Star Resources. It brought up Explor Resources Inc (CDNX). Officers/Directors as follows:
Position
Duane Michael Studer Director of the Board
Secretary/Treasurer
Randall Thomas Studer President
Director of the Board
Robert Ayotte Director of the Board
Q: Wasn't Randall Studer also involved with that company UC left under unknown circumstances? Petro Plus?
Q: Not sure, but isn't Studer also involved with the drilling company CMKX is using?

Not finished digging. Let's see what we can find on Explor Resources Inc (CDNX).
-------------
Found Explor Res Inc with symbol of CA:EXS...not much information.


[B]



Glad someone is looking at it. Pretty wild huh? Very VERY interwoven.

 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Check out the info. at the right hand corner where it says "Navagation Options" drop down the list. Like financing...
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
if there is a naked short the mm's told cmkx to shove it back on the own by date in aug. they can not buy restricted shares of ucad and they can't use common shares in their place unless the restriction is lifted before the pay date. so any squeeze is over. i wouldn't even count on the 24th being the pay date any more as that might have been changed. if you notice we are less then 10 days from the gemm pay date and no word about the split yet. no word on if they took up the option on the other 24% of gemm either. for whatever reason cmkx has decided the stockholder does not need to know anything. maybe because cmkx knows that shareholders will not sell till its either worthless or they are rich no matter what the company does. and i'm one of them that feels just that way.
 
Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
Aone, it's just my opinion, but I think we may see CMKX moved into SGGM at some point. Their AS is 950 billion. After giving CMKX 200 billion, they now have approx 750 billion left to issue. If the CMKX OS is about 800 billion as some suspect, this number is about perfect for a one to one trade with CMKX shareholders. As far as the evaluation of those shares given to uCMKX, they are restricted and cannot be sold for a year. So they will not have any actual or tradeable value for a year or until the restriction is removed. If or when that restriction is removed and 200 billion shares become tradeable, the pps will drop like a ton of bricks, if real value has not been established in SGGM that would justify that kind of pps.

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 20, 2004).]


Noah & Aone,

I am not an expert at this but I believe the float for SGGM may be fairly small, which would explain the rapid rise in PPS when the news came out about the 5% deal with CMKX. However, when they release the 200b shares, don't they become part of the SGGM float and cause a heavy dilution of SGGM's PPS? Or is the float in the hundreds of billions now which would mean that there won't be much dilution and the stock will hold its value? I would appreciate your opinions.

 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Here are a couple of responses I got from Fidelity concerning dividends.

RE: Stock dividends
From: Fidelity
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 9/20/2004 1:39 PM

Message: Dear Mr. xxxxxxxxxx
According to our records, CMKM Diamonds had scheduled 2004 dividends with pay dates of September 24 ($0.00000960), and October 1 ($0.02560000). Please note that these rates are approximate and can change. At this time, the dividends are on hold, and we have not received verification from the company to indicate if they will be paid. I am sorry that we do not have any additional information at this time.

If you have any other questions or comments, please send us another message at any time. We appreciate your business.


RE: UCAD dividend
From: Fidelity
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 8/25/2004 5:19 AM

Message: Dear Mr. xxxxxxxxx:

According to my records, you will receive 15.5 shares for each one million shares of CMKX you own. If you have any other questions or comments, please send us another message at any time.

We appreciate your business.

Sincerely,


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Money_Penny:
Noah & Aone,

I am not an expert at this but I believe the float for SGGM may be fairly small, which would explain the rapid rise in PPS when the news came out about the 5% deal with CMKX. However, when they release the 200b shares, don't they become part of the SGGM float and cause a heavy dilution of SGGM's PPS? Or is the float in the hundreds of billions now which would mean that there won't be much dilution and the stock will hold its value? I would appreciate your opinions.



Money, the 200 billion would go into the float when the restriction is lifted and that's why the pps would drop dramatically, without proven valuation.


From investopedia:

Float
The total number of shares publicly owned and available for trading. The float is calculated by subtracting restricted shares from outstanding shares.


For example, a company may have 10 million outstanding shares, but only 7 million are trading on the stock market. So, the float would be 7 million.

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 21, 2004).]
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Interesting. Steady .0003 this morning. No 2's. Anyone have L2's?
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
Interesting. Steady .0003 this morning. No 2's. Anyone have L2's?

Dw, all threes so far and low volume - 134 million

 


Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
Noah,

Does anyone know what the float is for SGGM at this time? Have there been any speculations as to how much dilution will occur when the 200b hit the market?

Thanks
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
Part of DWMAN's post;
CMKM Diamonds had scheduled 2004 dividends with pay dates of September 24 ($0.00000960), and October 1 ($0.02560000). Please note that these rates are approximate and can change. At this time, the dividends are on hold, and we have not received verification from the company to indicate if they will be paid. I am sorry that we do not have any additional information at this time.


if i'm not mistaken the ucad split listed here works out to 9 ucad shares per million cmkx. the 15.5 was at the first split number with the 483 billion o/s. it would seem cmkx is not only messing with shareholders but brokers too. at some point in the near future somebody is going to call them on their s**t. probably the brokers as i'm sure they are fed up with answering our questions. the claims must be real and info about the claims must show something of value because of 6 other companies involved. i cant believe any scam that has 7 companies scamming the public over mineral claims. if there aren't a lot of answers in the next 14 days my guess is trading could be halted. all 3 dividends are scheduled to be paid in that time. if this doesn't happen just stockholder calls to brokers looking for answers may get the SEC involved. brokers will not want to spend large amounts of time on a .0003 to .0004 pink sheet stock. this doesn't mean that the pps migght change but it does mean shareholders will get some info that till now the company hasn't felt we deserve
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
I agree Bill. I'm hoping, though, that UC and Glenn still have a surprise coming soon that will blow this thing...something that has to be kept quiet until just the right time. JMO
 
Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
I wonder how Lowtrades was able to give me the dividend shares (at a rate of 15.5 per million) last week already while other brokers claim that they haven't heard anything from the DTC yet. Could it be that my CMKX shares were NS and the MMs sent those shares straight to the broker?
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
are those shares marked restricted money??
 
Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
I called and they said they are restricted but they did not have any info as to how long. The dividend shares are not showing up in my online statements.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
if they are restricted they didn't come from the mm's. they can not in any way buy restricted shares. also they can not manufactor restricted shares. the only place restricted shares can come from is ucad's t/a. the 15.5 per million is i guess good news as then the o/s is back to the 483 billion number not the 800 billion number. did i really say 483 billion shares is good news??? i think talking about cmkx puts a person in some sort of twilite zone. 483 billion shares of anything is not good news. if microsoft had an o/s of 483 billion their pps would be .0003
 
Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:

one day somebody posted an alert on the naked short of the century...
i started doing some DD, came over here to politely offer my opinion and got smacked...LOL now i feel obligated to drop in once in a while make sure the pumpers are being somewhat reasonable...LOL


LOL...What a joke. You state your opinions as fact. As for getting smacked, you're the smack king.

Once in a while for you is every 45 minutes.

I do salute your resolve and stamina. You're lucky Wally watches your back.

 


Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
Bill - call me crazy but 483b o/s sounds good to me as well.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Money_Penny:
Noah,

Does anyone know what the float is for SGGM at this time? Have there been any speculations as to how much dilution will occur when the 200b hit the market?

Thanks



Money, I haven't seen any float figures for SGGM yet, though PR's have been promised for this week. As to dilution, the 200 billion won't hit the market for a year, unless the restriction is removed, so the impact will not be known until then.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Glassman:
quote:
you guys should check out SMTR.....

Nice tip Glass. Got in at .069 this morning. Thanks.
 


Posted by Dkatback on :
 
What ever happened to all the free shares in that no name company that I got from cmkx last year? they are sitting in my ameritrade account with no price? are they ever going to trade? Anyone know what I am talking about?
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Dkatback:
quote:
What ever happened to all the free shares in that no name company that I got from cmkx last year? they are sitting in my ameritrade account with no price? are they ever going to trade? Anyone know what I am talking about?

Guess what? You're getting more of those shares. They were a spin off last year of CMI or Casavant Mining International. This year they're calling it CIM or Casavant International Mining. Last year CMI was supposed to go public within 2 weeks of the spin off and it didn't happen. Don't hold your breath for it this time around either.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by Dkatback:
Guess what? You're getting more of those shares. They were a spin off last year of CMI or Casavant Mining International. This year they're calling it CIM or Casavant International Mining. Last year CMI was supposed to go public within 2 weeks of the spin off and it didn't happen. Don't hold your breath for it this time around either.

Things aren't exactly the aame now as they were last year, Upside.


 


Posted by Waveslider on :
 

 
Posted by Waveslider on :
 

 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by noahltl:
quote:
Things aren't exactly the aame now as they were last year, Upside

Really? Outside of Mr. Glenn, they're exactly the same. Rumors of drilling with no results, share structure still unknown, a dividend coming in the same company that is still untradeable, etc. Oh, I forgot the funny car, we didn't have that last year or the speed trucks and motorcycles. How are things so much different than last year?
 


Posted by Waveslider on :
 
45,000,000+ SHARES HOLDING

AGENDA WHAT'S YOURS!!!!!!
 


Posted by DeadSurf on :
 
UCAD untouched today...does this have anything to do with the divy coming on thurs.???
 
Posted by ahcncinc on :
 
Has anyone looked at how this "company" does business at the races? They hand out ALOT of information packets with info on the car,drivers AND a color map showing their mining interests in Canada. These packets must cost serious$$$$. Many people take the race info out and toss the rest into the trash. CMKX does not own any race car, transport rig,etc. They bought advertising on the car to sell their product( stock shares). At one race, CMKX people were handing out information in the stands! The NHRA(sanctioning body)had to restrict CMKX to only passing out the info behind the race car trailer. For a company who has no revenue, they spend a TON of money to "hawk" the stock to the masses of pepole who attend the races. Anybody else have any "stories" from the races about how CMKX conducts its self at the races??
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
Waveslider
AA has risen about 25 percent since breaking through a double top formation in December and has had little correction. Do you really think it has steam to go much higher? Just curious. What are you thinking in terms of the next resistance level. It would be nice to see more history.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by noahltl:
Really? Outside of Mr. Glenn, they're exactly the same. Rumors of drilling with no results, share structure still unknown, a dividend coming in the same company that is still untradeable, etc. Oh, I forgot the funny car, we didn't have that last year or the speed trucks and motorcycles. How are things so much different than last year?


Besides Glenn

Over a million acres under Goldak survey

TDEM reports

Active drilling

Diamondiferous at Carolyn with micro diamonds

Institutional Investors bringing revenues

3 dividends on the way

PPS at triple

Naked shorting being dealt with by Glenn and multiple lawsuits, SEC involvement

45,000 investors watching every move

JV partners on board to assist

Just to name a few


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ahcncinc:
Has anyone looked at how this "company" does business at the races? They hand out ALOT of information packets with info on the car,drivers AND a color map showing their mining interests in Canada. These packets must cost serious$$$$. Many people take the race info out and toss the rest into the trash. CMKX does not own any race car, transport rig,etc. They bought advertising on the car to sell their product( stock shares). At one race, CMKX people were handing out information in the stands! The NHRA(sanctioning body)had to restrict CMKX to only passing out the info behind the race car trailer. For a company who has no revenue, they spend a TON of money to "hawk" the stock to the masses of pepole who attend the races. Anybody else have any "stories" from the races about how CMKX conducts its self at the races??


Thanks for making your first post, a bashing of the company. When you start running a company, you can make the decisions on how you advertise.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by noahltl:
quote:
Besides Glenn

Over a million acres under Goldak survey

TDEM reports

Active drilling

Diamondiferous at Carolyn with micro diamonds

Institutional Investors bringing revenues

3 dividends on the way

PPS at triple

Naked shorting being dealt with by Glenn and multiple lawsuits, SEC involvement

45,000 investors watching every move

JV partners on board to assist

Just to name a few


Noah,
I've got to be honest, I don't know how to begin answering your post. Look at some of your points. Carolyn diamondiferous? You don't consider that bending the truth? Naked shorting being dealt with by Mr. Glenn, multiple lawsuits, and SEC involvement? That is nothing but wild speculation on your part. Out of the 3 dividends you mention 2 are untradeable and the third has a value of about 9 dollars per million shares if CMKX only has 400 billion outstanding. Come on, this is laughable. About the only point I concede is that the ppps has trebled since last year.


 


Posted by ahcncinc on :
 
I'm not bashing at all.... I'm stating proven facts. I DO own and operate a company and do not wish anybody here anything but success. I hope everybody makes a pile of money, but I have witnessed them in action at the races and I question what i see. The companies who do advertise through the motorsports industry have tangible products and services and do not push their product in the stands.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ahcncinc:
The companies who do advertise through the motorsports industry have tangible products and services and do not push their product in the stands.

You own a company? How do you do your marketing? Have you never pushed your product at a tradeshow or over a three martini lunch?

 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
This is being touted as our Goldak on some boards. Take a look. Experts are saying this is HUGE
http://www.mdru.ubc.ca/rp/precious_stones/diamonds/kimberlite_mag/kimber3.jpg
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
folks face facts this includes you noah. i'm not saying your a pumper just hopefull as are the rest of us holders but cmkx would be the biggest scam in history if it wasn't for all the other companies involved. nothing is proven including the claims which seem to be held by saskatawan ltd. i do seem to remember something about cmkx's claim held in that company but can't remember where that was or can i re-find it. the lawyer is meaningless until he proves he is on the shareholders side. the caryolyn pipe was a bust but that is normal in mining...no big deal. the only info from cmkx in the last few months that can keep some hope alive is that other companies want in. even that has cost us. we now hold less then 20% of the total. if they find 1 trillion in diamonds we get 200 billion. and mining that many diamonds will take yrs. throw in a 483 billion o/s and well so much for a $1 pps. i'm not saying this is what UC wanted but it sure has headed this way. but on the bright side the profit from .0004 to .01 isn't all that bad. and .01 is the best we can hope for now. throw in some change from share dividends at least we get something back for our patiance and investment.
 
Posted by skippy on :
 
They appear to be 2 football fields in length, that's huge?
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
folks face facts this includes you noah. i'm not saying your a pumper just hopefull as are the rest of us holders but cmkx would be the biggest scam in history if it wasn't for all the other companies involved. nothing is proven including the claims which seem to be held by saskatawan ltd. i do seem to remember something about cmkx's claim held in that company but can't remember where that was or can i re-find it. the lawyer is meaningless until he proves he is on the shareholders side. the caryolyn pipe was a bust but that is normal in mining...no big deal. the only info from cmkx in the last few months that can keep some hope alive is that other companies want in. even that has cost us. we now hold less then 20% of the total. if they find 1 trillion in diamonds we get 200 billion. and mining that many diamonds will take yrs. throw in a 483 billion o/s and well so much for a $1 pps. i'm not saying this is what UC wanted but it sure has headed this way. but on the bright side the profit from .0004 to .01 isn't all that bad. and .01 is the best we can hope for now. throw in some change from share dividends at least we get something back for our patiance and investment.

Bill, IMO it is only a scam if it IS a scam and it matters not in the least if 100 companies are involved or none. Based on what we know, your assessment of .01 ppm is reasonable. However, you are talking about real value. Don't forget emotion. What made SGGM go from .01 to .75 and settle in at .35 or so? Do you not see the possibility of cmkx or whatever company comes out of this as possibly making such a short term move? IMO, if sggm can do that with zero value, cmkx should be able to at least match that action. Perhaps I'm insane, but I'm still long until .....
 


Posted by ahcncinc on :
 
This is not about my company... This is about a company (CMKX) who is becoming the talk of the NHRA pits for all the wrong reasons. Shareholders have shown up at races with the misconception that because they own shares in the company, they own part of the racing operation as well.(some sort of company asset?) They were led to believe something that was/is not true. How they came up with that idea is anybodies guess.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Bill, yes I am hopeful. But the Carolyn had two samples, one is still locked away. Yesterday I posted a complaint from a Shore Gold stockholder association rep. They are complaining about DeBeers "controlling" the assays up there. They have a lot of money and power, and I don't doubt that they have maneuvered their way into the Sask government operations. I will withhold judgement on Carolyn until I see the results of that second core sample. We know it was diamondiferous with micro diamonds. Why wouldn't we have started drilling nearby knowing there was something there? Unless we found all that we needed to know at that site.

As for Glenn, when he works to make a company that I own part of, better, he works for me.

I would have to see your math and DD on owning less that 20%. How do you figure that?


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by noahltl:
quote:
As for Glenn, when he works to make a company that I own part of, better, he works for me.

I just hope you're right and he is working for us. Take a look at this page from Edwards & Angells site:
http://www.edwardsangell.com/index.php?w=780

They seem to have a lot of success defending corporate clients when sued by shareholders. I hope that's not why Mr. Glenn is on board.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 

Originally posted by ahcncinc:
Has anyone looked at how this "company" does business at the races? They hand out ALOT of information packets with info on the car,drivers AND a color map showing their mining interests in Canada. These packets must cost serious$$$$. Many people take the race info out and toss the rest into the trash. CMKX does not own any race car, transport rig,etc. They bought advertising on the car to sell their product( stock shares). At one race, CMKX people were handing out information in the stands! The NHRA(sanctioning body)had to restrict CMKX to only passing out the info behind the race car trailer. For a company who has no revenue, they spend a TON of money to "hawk" the stock to the masses of pepole who attend the races. Anybody else have any "stories" from the races about how CMKX conducts its self at the races??
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
noahltl wrote:
Thanks for making your first post, a bashing of the company. When you start running a company, you can make the decisions on how you advertise.
---------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------
Selling product is one thing, noahltl. Using such an avenue to push a company's stock is most unusual. As a matter of fact, I have never heard of it before, have you?
And, please do not feed me any stuff about "originality". Also, I do not understand why you are so inclined to label someone as a CMKX basher when all they do is post truth and facts.

ahcncinc,
A poster with a username of "lanebro" has posted similar wonderment at CMKX activities at the tracks. He, too, seemed to think it was very much out of the ordinary in that someone was pushing stock rather than products. He, too, made some good observations...as did you.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Wallace, if I can't use "originality", how about "creative". Nothing Urban has done looks like any other company. And for that I am thankful.

According to other posters who have attended the races, there are far more people looking at the PR materials and wearing their T-shirts, than are throwing them away. Most if not all of those people passing out the PR bags, are volunteers who are shareholders and working to promote their company.

You noted too that we have another poster complaining about marketing at the track. As a matter of fact, just last night we heard nearly the same thing, word for word. Almost as though it were scripted.

Naturally, I am a little suspicious, when someone takes the time to sign up for Allstocks just to take a shot at something as irrelevant as track marketing.
 


Posted by ahcncinc on :
 
CMKX "track marketing" = flash your boobs for a t-shirt. Now that is original!!!
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by ahcncinc:
quote:
CMKX "track marketing" = flash your boobs for a t-shirt. Now that is original!!!

Probably more entertaining than watching the CMKXtreme machine though!

 


Posted by dwman on :
 
ahcncinc
Welcome to the board. I'm just curious...do you own cmkx?
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Green Baron / Stockwatch Smackdown airing at 2:30 PT - 5:30 ET. at:

http://familyvaluesradio.com/ClicktoListen.asp
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
I noticed that A.C.A. Howe International, Ltd, a mining consulting company, shows St. George Metals as a client.

Howe΄s North American and Europe-based team of geologists and engineers have collectively an average of twenty five years of experience, possess a broad range of expertise in the minerals industry. With the support of associates and subcontractors, Howe has established a reputation of expertise that can meet the growing and diversified requirements of its clients.

Howe currently focuses its services towards precious metal, base metal and industrial mineral exploration, mining (mine design and management), mineral processing, property valuations, pre-feasibility and feasibility studies, reserves and reserve audits and due diligence reviews. Howe has maintained a good relationship with all the regulatory bodies throughout Canada and all qualifying reports and valuation opinions have been well received and meet the standards dictated by each of the respective securities and regulatory jurisdictions in Canada. In addition, Howe has developed a specialty in collecting relevant geological, geochemical, geophysical, mining and environmental data and building various country and commodity databases.

All of the Company senior staff and associates have been long-standing employees, which provides both client continuity and a high degree of expertise to the firm. The company and its staff meet all the regulatory requirements necessary for the acceptance of independent third party reports for the Canadian stock exchange and securities commissions.

Hmmmmm

http://www.acahowe.ca/
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
I noticed that A.C.A. Howe International, Ltd, a mining consulting company, shows St. George Metals as a client.

Howe΄s North American and Europe-based team of geologists and engineers have collectively an average of twenty five years of experience, possess a broad range of expertise in the minerals industry. With the support of associates and subcontractors, Howe has established a reputation of expertise that can meet the growing and diversified requirements of its clients.

Howe currently focuses its services towards precious metal, base metal and industrial mineral exploration, mining (mine design and management), mineral processing, property valuations, pre-feasibility and feasibility studies, reserves and reserve audits and due diligence reviews. Howe has maintained a good relationship with all the regulatory bodies throughout Canada and all qualifying reports and valuation opinions have been well received and meet the standards dictated by each of the respective securities and regulatory jurisdictions in Canada. In addition, Howe has developed a specialty in collecting relevant geological, geochemical, geophysical, mining and environmental data and building various country and commodity databases.

All of the Company senior staff and associates have been long-standing employees, which provides both client continuity and a high degree of expertise to the firm. The company and its staff meet all the regulatory requirements necessary for the acceptance of independent third party reports for the Canadian stock exchange and securities commissions.

Hmmmmm

http://www.acahowe.ca/



Sorry, everything except first line should be in quotes.
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
A.C.A. Howe Int Ltd, in addition to many other services, provides:

TECHNICAL MANAGEMENT, CANADA (1995): Providing technical advice as well as the carrying out of diamond exploration projects.

http://www.acahowe.ca/


 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Here is a very interesting article (interesting to me). It is copyrighted so I'm not sure I can post it but here is the link. I had never thought much about breakage of diamonds during drilling but apparantly it can be significant.
http://www.diamondplay.com/s/Analysts-KBFR.asp?ReportID=38644&_Title=Kaiser-Express-2002-10-Fort-a-la-Corne-raw-results-lower-than-expected
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
noah...the 20% is only the original 1.4 million acres. the claims from nevada minerals is part of it making up the final 1.9 million acres but that kind of math my 46 yr old brain doesn't want to do...lol we have lost part of the 60% of nevada but figuring what 20% of 60% then carrying that into the 1.9 total is too much. the original 1.4 million acres is easy we sold 20% of our 25% to ucad & sggm remember those sales were for all of our claims. 20% of 25% is 5% thus leaving 20% of the original 1.4 million acres. ucad had 25% now about 28%, united carina had 25% & pine consolidated had 25% where shane got a piece i dont know dont remember cmkx saying they gave anything to them

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Posted by ahcncinc on :
 
No, I do not own CMKX but I do have stocks in other companies. I hope everybody makes some $$. I have followed this thread for a while and I saw where someone else raised the same type of questions I had. Is the way they conduct their business at the track the same way they conduct their mining business? I have seen the shareholders handing out the info packs but the "big buck" teams do not use their fans or the customers of their sponsers to help in their marketing. Most of the people who wear the t-shirts are CMKX loyalists, not race fans. Again, I'm not bashing, I'm only stating some facts and asking a few questions.
 
Posted by ahcncinc on :
 
I do not own any CMKX. I have watched the comments on this thread for some time now and I saw a post where someone else questioned their activities at the track.
 
Posted by ahcncinc on :
 
Sorry for the double post, our power here is blinking on and off from time to time.
 
Posted by will on :
 
There is probably a HUGE difference in the float between SGGM and CMKX. If there is only 200B float of CMKX, (which is being very generous), that means a 2B volume day = 1% of the float. So, don't expect too much of an emotional rise in PPS. 4B volume would be more than the major exchanges put together and still be only 2%. Think about it!


quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
Bill, IMO it is only a scam if it IS a scam and it matters not in the least if 100 companies are involved or none. Based on what we know, your assessment of .01 ppm is reasonable. However, you are talking about real value. Don't forget emotion. What made SGGM go from .01 to .75 and settle in at .35 or so? Do you not see the possibility of cmkx or whatever company comes out of this as possibly making such a short term move? IMO, if sggm can do that with zero value, cmkx should be able to at least match that action. Perhaps I'm insane, but I'm still long until .....


 


Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ahcncinc:
Has anyone looked at how this "company" does business at the races? They hand out ALOT of information packets with info on the car,drivers AND a color map showing their mining interests in Canada. These packets must cost serious$$$$. Many people take the race info out and toss the rest into the trash. CMKX does not own any race car, transport rig,etc. They bought advertising on the car to sell their product( stock shares). At one race, CMKX people were handing out information in the stands! The NHRA(sanctioning body)had to restrict CMKX to only passing out the info behind the race car trailer. For a company who has no revenue, they spend a TON of money to "hawk" the stock to the masses of pepole who attend the races. Anybody else have any "stories" from the races about how CMKX conducts its self at the races??

I'm a little confused here, Ahcncinc, are you upset with the marketing techniques of CMKX, or about the investment itself? I, for one, would like a company to aggressively promote itself in any legal way possible. Of all of the posters that have visited the races over the past months, almost everyone has stated how professional, generous and informative the company has been.

I have heard nothing but compliments and good vibrations from most all of the racing fans that are stockholders. None of them have said that they have come across any bad comments or ugliness from any official or fan. Most people like the gift bags. Yes, they probably do throw away a lot of the items, but they like them. I'm not a racing fan, myself, but even a football game has tailgating parties that promote companies and they distribute pom poms, flags and caps with their logo on them even if they don't own the football team.

I think it's a great way to get your name out to the public. I think it's smart business.

Now, show me the diamonds, and I'll show you a rise in the PPS.



 


Posted by Grasshopper on :
 
Bill, I attempted (for a couple minutes) to back track and come up with the links showing CMKM's claims' percentages. It's buried somewhere but I didn't have time to look. From what I remember though, CMKM had 100% claims on the 1.4 million acres and then had a joint venture on another .5 million acres. With the recent deals made, UCAD obtained 5% of all CMKM's claims with an option for another 10%, and SGGM also acquired 5%. That would still leave CMKM with 90% of the 1.4 million acres. Maybe someone else can verify that!?!

I guess the next question is whether or not most of the drilling is going to be done on the .5 million acre joint venture property or on CMKM's 1.4 million acres...

quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
folks face facts this includes you noah. i'm not saying your a pumper just hopefull as are the rest of us holders but cmkx would be the biggest scam in history if it wasn't for all the other companies involved. nothing is proven including the claims which seem to be held by saskatawan ltd. i do seem to remember something about cmkx's claim held in that company but can't remember where that was or can i re-find it. the lawyer is meaningless until he proves he is on the shareholders side. the caryolyn pipe was a bust but that is normal in mining...no big deal. the only info from cmkx in the last few months that can keep some hope alive is that other companies want in. even that has cost us. we now hold less then 20% of the total. if they find 1 trillion in diamonds we get 200 billion. and mining that many diamonds will take yrs. throw in a 483 billion o/s and well so much for a $1 pps. i'm not saying this is what UC wanted but it sure has headed this way. but on the bright side the profit from .0004 to .01 isn't all that bad. and .01 is the best we can hope for now. throw in some change from share dividends at least we get something back for our patiance and investment.

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Posted by noahltl on :
 
CDLIC
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CMKMs Many Company Holdings & Partners as 8/16/04
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CMKM Company Holdings and Partners As of 8/16/04


Below is a list of CMKM's holdings as of 8/14/04. This list was not 1/3 it is today a month ago. Mr. Casavant is rapidly building a compnay with the assistance E & A, his law firm, and Mr. D. Roger Glenn, his attorney and partner in E & A. I believe this list will continue to grow over the next few weeks an months. Stay tuned!

Enjoy the read,

CDLIC

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CMKM's Holdings Listed Below

- Owns 25% of GEMM

- Has option to purchase 24% more ownership in GEMM (Diamonds, Gold)

- Owns 60% interest on 500,000 acre parcel in Saskatchewan (Diamonds)

- Owns 95% interest overall in 1.9 million acres of claims (Diamonds)

- Shareholders will own 49% of UCAD (8/20/2004, various)

- Shareholders will recieve 40 billion shares of CIM(8/31/2004, mining)

- Recieved US $3,000,000 from UCAD for additional 2% interest


United Canadian Minerals (UCAD)

- Owns 51% of GEMM

- Owns 100% of Nevada Magnetics

- Owns 20% interest on 500,000 acre parcel in Saskatchewan

- Owns 80% of the COD mine in Arizona, El Capitan operates the machinery

- Owns 5% interest overall in 1.9 million acres of claims

- Owns additional 2% interest in 1.9 million acres of claims (total = 7%)

- Has option to purchase 8% more interest in 1.9 million acres of claims

- Has option to purchase 25% in 27 claims near Smeaton property


Casavant Interenational Mining (CIM)

- Recieved US $1,000,000 from CMKX for equipment and drilling


Junia Mining (GEMM)

- Has a 49% interest in a joint venture with CA:YEG and JMML (Diamonds)

- Recently signed agreement to fully acquire Yellow River Mining (Gold)

- Owns portion of Diagem (Diamonds)


Junia Mining Minceracao (JMML)

- Has a 86% working interest in mining and mineral rights of 1,000 hectacres in Brazil (Diamonds)


Diagem International (CA-DGM)

- Mines diamonds in Brazil, the largest being a 100 carat pink diamond so far


Emerging Africa Gold (CA-YEG)

- Has a joint venture with JMML on 1,000 hectacres in Brazil (Diamonds)


Nevada Magnetics

- Raw material processing (Nickel Sulfide Anode Bars)


El Capitan Precious Metals (ECPN)


- Revenue from COD mine will be split 50/50 with UCAD (Precious Minerals)


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Posted by noahltl on :
 
Chris at UCAD says 6,000+ responses to the party in Vegas. WOW
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Got home to late for the debate.But what I gathered,it was anticlimactic to say the least.
Here is what I heard on how it went from some helpful people...Kind of a play-by-play.
Quotes from their take...
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I heard an ad for it, they are advertising it as a dogfight. I am just sorry that all the CMKXers out there have to hear this guy before they get to the debate.
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1 minute to go.
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Thats where I was, keep getting IE errors and have to shut down. Oh well maybe you guys can keep us filled in. Thanks,
Good Luck Longs
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No accidents in Gods kingdom, Mr Hartley Bernstein of stock patrol is getting on a plane and might not have phone on the plane so debate might not go on.
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HA! Mr. Bernstein was getting on an airplane, and "hoped" he could get the opportunity to get through for the debate.
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Stock watch...on an airplane...may not show...trying to call in if possible....
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He can conveniently break up when needed!
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He's on, from the plane...he broke his hand yesterday, that's why his plans changed...
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He's on, from the plane...he broke his hand yesterday, that's why his plans changed...
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Christian traders holds 10 M shares for entertainment purposes only. they dont support, not enough info.
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green baron is talking about UCAD and the shares and what is going on with UCAD.
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stockptrol is back on..... and he is gone again.

he said there are no reports or anything that cmkx has filed. then he left. said maybe we can do it later.
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he left because the guy from greenbaron could not hear him, so he could not respond to him.
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thanked green baron for being there and taking it seriously, kind blew off stockpatrol for not...
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And back to me,Highwaychild,I expected a little more from stock patrol.I mean they usually have so much to say.Kind of unprofessional since they had an appointment.
I thought they were "Back on patrol".

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Posted by lanebro on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ahcncinc:
Has anyone looked at how this "company" does business at the races? They hand out ALOT of information packets with info on the car,drivers AND a color map showing their mining interests in Canada. These packets must cost serious$$$$. Many people take the race info out and toss the rest into the trash. CMKX does not own any race car, transport rig,etc. They bought advertising on the car to sell their product( stock shares). At one race, CMKX people were handing out information in the stands! The NHRA(sanctioning body)had to restrict CMKX to only passing out the info behind the race car trailer. For a company who has no revenue, they spend a TON of money to "hawk" the stock to the masses of pepole who attend the races. Anybody else have any "stories" from the races about how CMKX conducts its self at the races??

Thanks ahc, couldn't have said better myself. Remember when NHRA told them to quit handing out the poker chips at Joliet? Lest not forget to mention 66 passed up their event sponsor offer.


 


Posted by lanebro on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
You own a company? How do you do your marketing? Have you never pushed your product at a tradeshow or over a three martini lunch?

You guys, please, all UC is pushing is ticker tape. They passed out POKER chips at the races for a reason. It's Freudian. GAMBLE. GAMBLE. GAMBLE. Get it? No diamonds. All stock market fun.
I wish I'd quit reading all this pro-diamond stuff. I've come here lurking, and posting, perhaps posting may not be right on my part, but still, seeking that GREAT thing that's supposed to happen. I'm trying to find out if CMKX is for real but find I'm only getting older.


 


Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lanebro:
You guys, please, all UC is pushing is ticker tape. They passed out POKER chips at the races for a reason. It's Freudian. GAMBLE. GAMBLE. GAMBLE. Get it? No diamonds. All stock market fun.
I wish I'd quit reading all this pro-diamond stuff. I've come here lurking, and posting, perhaps posting may not be right on my part, but still, seeking that GREAT thing that's supposed to happen. I'm trying to find out if CMKX is for real but find I'm only getting older.



Man, lanebro, I'm sure glad we've got you to set us straight. I thought the poker chips were real and they were giving us money. You and Freud make a great team. You must be wise beyond your years. Last time I checked,this company was headquartered in Las Vegas.

What's wrong with getting old? We all do.

The only thing that's getting old is all the sideline quarterbacks that aren't in the game.

You might want to join another team. I'm sure someone can use you.

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Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 

Noahltl wrote:

Wallace, if I can't use "originality", how about "creative". Nothing Urban has done looks like any other company. And for that I am thankful.
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Noahltl, I cannot accept creative either. Marketing product is one thing, but marketing stock is done elsewhere…not at racetracks. I would use the words, tacky, classless, delusional and downright wasteful.
So, what is he doing now, using stockholders to run his errands (passing out throwaway crap at racetracks)? I think he has used them enough already!
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WorkAHolic wrote:
The only thing that's getting old is all the sideline quarterbacks that aren't in the game.
You might want to join another team. I'm sure someone can use you.
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Work, what makes you think someone has to own a share of CMKX to have an opinion? Since you own the stock, you DO have a vested interest. If you did not, you would have no vested interest and be more disposed to voice an objective opinion.

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Posted by bill1352 on :
 
about the original 1.4 million acres and who owns what these are parts of differant press releases from early this yr...
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Saskatchewan Research Council (SRC), an independent lab located in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan reported to the company today that the core samples from the "Carolyn Pipe" has come back positive for diamond content. The "Carolyn Pipe" is located on the jointly owned Smeaton property in Saskatchewan, Canada held by CMKM Diamonds Inc., being the primary operator of the claims, United Carina Resources Corp. ( UCA ), Consolidated Pine Channel Gold Corp. ( KPG ) and U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. ( UCAD ).
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Definitive classification as kimberlite will require laboratory confirmation and samples are currently being prepared to undergo caustic fusion treatment to assess diamond content. However given the nearby location of independently verified diamondiferous kimberlite and the large size of kimberlite bodies in the area, U.S. Canadian is very excited by the recent drilling successes. U.S. Canadian Minerals owns 25% of the claim and any future diamond finds. Further drilling is planned to more fully classify the size and morphology of the kimberlitic body and management is eagerly anticipating the results of diamond determination which is expected to be forthcoming within the next few months
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these prs date back to march 2004
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Wallace wrote:

"Noahltl, I cannot accept creative either. Marketing product is one thing, but marketing stock is done elsewhere…not at racetracks. I would use the words, tacky, classless, delusional and downright wasteful.
So, what is he doing now, using stockholders to run his errands"

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Yet those adjectives are just what attracts people at a race track. Go figure. This is an atmosphere of "booze, broads, and screaming engines". Not 5th Avenue.

The volunteers are completely that. The leader of the group of investors, bought his own "hummer" and had it painted with CMKX artwork. There actually are stockholders who just love this company and believe in it more than I do.
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by noahltl:
quote:
There actually are stockholders who just love this company and believe in it more than I do.

That's not possible.

 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Bill, I think the confusion is over semantics. It is my understanding that CMKX owns the mineral rights, not the acutal land itself, which may be causing all of the problems here. This is probably why so many people are having problems finding government claims lists in CMKX name. Ownership of the land would still be in the original name of the owner.

UCAD, et al are joint owners of rights at Smeaton, but I don't think I have ever heard what percentage. But of course that is only one of many sites.

I really haven't gotten much into investigating CMKX's rights in these matters as many other people would probably be jumping up and down if we were drilling on someone else's property without rights. And surely our neighbors have checked out who owns adjoining lands and rights.

And I really don't believe we are having core samples examined in the Sask area anymore. Dwman found probably the right one in his post above.

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Posted by noahltl on :
 
DR. D's view on the Carolyn pipe
« Thread started on: 09/17/2004 at 13:37:14 »

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Carolyn in my opinion is going to be CMKX's best kept secret in these early days. I believe she is loaded to the gill and we didn't need to look anymore at that spot. If it was a dud there is no way the JV Partners would have agreed for the further lab testing of the remaining samples. It is very expensive. To many signs and action taken by the company have emerged since the sampling of Carolyn for it to be useless.

We are still sampling her in my opinion and we knew what we had before we sent the first samples off. We reported through our JV Partners what we had to in order to get them trading again.

In my opinion, Carolyn is probably the money producer for CMKX right now even while the bulk sampling is being planned out.

Just my opinion and I ask that you treat it as such.

Dr.D
 


Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
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Wallace wrote
"Work, what makes you think someone has to own a share of CMKX to have an opinion? Since you own the stock, you DO have a vested interest. If you did not, you would have no vested interest and be more disposed to voice an objective opinion."
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Wally, everyone has an opinion. Most express it as an opinion. Some don't.

Yes, I do own this stock so I think I have a right to my opinion on it. I have the stockholder's best interests in mind, since I'm a stockholder. My opinion is that there are some on this board that are using half truths, partial quotes and intimidation to promote THEIR agendas. Those same agendas that are not stated here. At least I am honest in why I express my opinion. Some, on this board, have hidden agendas and will not even admit it.

For ahcncinc to try to ridicule someone, that..oh...by the way happens to be the head of this company, by calling him names and criticizing his marketing techniques only indicates to me that he's got some other agenda besides our best interest in mind. By coming on this board and making that statement from the onset, sets the tone for all of us to see.

If members don't have the stockholder's best interest in mind, why are they here?

For that matter, why are you here?

I think I know why...of course, that's just my biased opinion as a stockholder.

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Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Wallace,
How is your digging coming along? I haven't had much time to persue it.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lanebro:
You guys, please, all UC is pushing is ticker tape. They passed out POKER chips at the races for a reason. It's Freudian. GAMBLE. GAMBLE. GAMBLE. Get it? No diamonds. All stock market fun.
I wish I'd quit reading all this pro-diamond stuff. I've come here lurking, and posting, perhaps posting may not be right on my part, but still, seeking that GREAT thing that's supposed to happen. I'm trying to find out if CMKX is for real but find I'm only getting older.


Lanebro
I need a part time job. How much will your MMs pay me for posting such great bashes?


 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Cmkm Diamond Inc     (OTHER OTC: CMKX) Last Update: 9:30:00 AM ET Sep 22, 2004  
 
St. George Metals, Inc. Announces 3rd Payment of $2,500,000 Delivered to CMKM Diamonds, Inc.

VEGREVILLE, Alberta, Sep 22, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- St. George Metals, Inc. (Pink Sheets:SGGM) is pleased to announce that the Company has delivered a 3rd payment of $2,500,000 U.S. Dollars to CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) totaling now $7,500,000 U.S. Dollars of the $10,000,000 U.S.D. joint venture agreement between St. George Metals, Inc. and CMKM Diamonds, Inc.

In consideration for $10,000,000 US Dollars and two hundred billion (200,000,000,000) restricted shares of SGGM St. George Metals, Inc. will purchase a 5% unencumbered and absolute interest in any and all mineral claims held by CMKM Diamonds, Inc.

CMKM Diamonds, Inc. is one of the largest holders of claims in the Fort A La Corne Saskatchewan diamond exploration fields which include DeBeers and Kensington.

The Company is anticipated to deliver the remaining additional payment of $2,500,000 within the next 30 days.

There is no guarantee that further exploration or drilling will produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the company.

 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
WorkAHolic wrote:
For that matter, why are you here?
I think I know why...of course, that's just my biased opinion as a stockholder.
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Work, precisely what I meant..."biased opinion as a stockholder".
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tradingpennys,
Have been rather busy myself and have not had much time to check further. Eventually will get to it. Tina, I do think you did one hell of a good job finding that source for such information.

Been rewiring my dish network for another receiver. Hot attic and insulation is quite
a bad environment for me so cannot spend more than 10/15 min there each time.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
For a company that was in the financial condition it was in I find this extremely difficult to believe:

VEGREVILLE, Alberta, Sep 22, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- St. George Metals, Inc. (Pink Sheets:SGGM) is pleased to announce that the Company has delivered a 3rd payment of $2,500,000 U.S. Dollars to CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) totaling now $7,500,000 U.S. Dollars of the $10,000,000 U.S.D. joint venture agreement between St. George Metals, Inc. and CMKM Diamonds, Inc.
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Where did they get the money? Something seems to be very questionable here!

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Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posred by Wallace # 1:
quote:
Where did they get the money?

I'm assuming that's a rhetorical question, right?
 


Posted by rde3 on :
 
People, get real......

It's not hard for company's of this possible magnitude to get money.....

It's done every single day.....
 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
The word is...Jeff has left the building and will not return because there is no longer a market for CMKX. Seems that several people have called and confirmed. Who knows!!!
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
WOW JEFF disappeared from the L2 this morning. Not just off the lead, but nowhere to be found. Really retired from this stock, or head-fake?
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
Noah, people on the cmkx community board are saying that Jefferies Securities (Jeff) is no longer market makers on cmkx. Several people called and claim that Jeff confirmed it. What can that mean?
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
sorry. didn't see az cats post.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
From cmkx community board word is that news is coming soon. I would think it is a rumor except for the fact that Jeff is gone.

Here is what they are saying the news will be about.

1) CMKX will report share structure and OS.

2) CMKX to be fully reporting.

3) Core sample results.

4) Geologists report on new core samples.

5) Dividend share dates and share payout.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
dwman,
If that's true, that would really be something. That pretty much covers what everyone has been clamoring for. I hope it's true but I've got to see it to believe it.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
Me too Upside.
 
Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
From cmkx community board word is that news is coming soon. I would think it is a rumor except for the fact that Jeff is gone.

Here is what they are saying the news will be about.

1) CMKX will report share structure and OS.

2) CMKX to be fully reporting.

3) Core sample results.

4) Geologists report on new core samples.

5) Dividend share dates and share payout.


More likely the news will be something to do with the race car.

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~,-,-< GatorMan
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Well Gator, I'm the eternal optimist.
 
Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
Well Gator, I'm the eternal optimist.

Not saying I don't hope it's one of those, but the track record (pun intended) is that it will be something fluffly and of no real significance.

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~,-,-< GatorMan
 


Posted by pikespeakorbust on :
 
St. George Metals, Inc. Announces 3rd Payment of $2,500,000 Delivered to CMKM Diamonds, Inc.
September 22, 2004 09:30:00 AM ET


St. George Metals, Inc. (Pink Sheets:SGGM) is pleased to announce that the Company has delivered a 3rd payment of $2,500,000 U.S. Dollars to CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) totaling now $7,500,000 U.S. Dollars of the $10,000,000 U.S.D. joint venture agreement between St. George Metals, Inc. and CMKM Diamonds, Inc.

In consideration for $10,000,000 US Dollars and two hundred billion (200,000,000,000) restricted shares of SGGM St. George Metals, Inc. will purchase a 5% unencumbered and absolute interest in any and all mineral claims held by CMKM Diamonds, Inc.

CMKM Diamonds, Inc. is one of the largest holders of claims in the Fort A La Corne Saskatchewan diamond exploration fields which include DeBeers and Kensington.

The Company is anticipated to deliver the remaining additional payment of $2,500,000 within the next 30 days.

There is no guarantee that further exploration or drilling will produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the company.

This press release contains "forward-looking" statements as that term is defined by Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 (the "Securities Act"), as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (the "Exchange Act"), as amended. All statements that are included in this press release other than statements of historical fact are "forward-looking" statements. Although management believes that the expectations reflecting in these forward-looking statements are reasonable, it can give no assurance that such expectations will prove to have been correct. Important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the expectations as disclosed herein, including without limitation, in conjunction with these forward-looking statements contained in this press release.

Contact Information: St. George Metals, Inc. Investor Relations: Vicki Curran, 877-632-3133

© 2004 BusinessWire


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
JEFF shares trading down $1.70 this morning.
 
Posted by tic_toc on :
 
It looks like SGGM PR was written by the same person who writes the CMKX PR's. Even down the 'economic benefit' disclaimer at the bottom.

That sound's promising that JEFF is off the market. The volume is very low today as well.
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
I notice that Schwab is still a market maker on cmkx. I thought they got out of the business altogether. :P
 
Posted by Prdponce on :
 
By: DDPro
22 Sep 2004, 12:43 PM EDT
Msg. 556323 of 556475
Jump to msg. #
I haven't seen anyone mention this so I will...

JEFF did not come out of the starting gate today which means yesterday COB was as late as he and his client(s) were willing to trade in CMKX. This also means that T+3 for all JEFF transacted settlements occurs no later than Friday the 24th, the UCAD distribution date.

From another board concerning Jeff and UCAD Div.

 


Posted by dwman on :
 
This may be a dumb question but Schwab is showing up on the level two stuff. Maybe I dreamed it but I thought I read a PR where they were getting out of the mm business. If indeed they did, could it be that their presence today is because they know something big is about to happen and want to get in on the action by buying for institutions? Just wondering.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Block of 51,000,000 shares cancelled. That part of a total of 131,000,000 cancelled all at once. Something strange going on.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
SCHB was in and out quicly at .0003 ask. Now sitting with others at .0004
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
tradingpennys,
Have been rather busy myself and have not had much time to check further. Eventually will get to it. Tina, I do think you did one hell of a good job finding that source for such information.

Been rewiring my dish network for another receiver. Hot attic and insulation is quite
a bad environment for me so cannot spend more than 10/15 min there each time.

[/B]



Yeah ... I know what you mean, I have been working restoring the exterior and interior of my mom's house by myself. (patting myself on the back). And that attic is a killer with the heat. Living in So. California it get's REAL HOT! I only work in the attic very early morning or nights. lol
Oh and thanks for the compliment. Whenever I "dig" for info. I find the best place to start is the court system. As for Canada I think every provinice should be researched. Same for the US in every state. Urban has a paper trail. It's just a matter of finding it. Alberta and Saskatchewan is what I have had time to find so far.


 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tic_toc:
It looks like SGGM PR was written by the same person who writes the CMKX PR's. Even down the 'economic benefit' disclaimer at the bottom.

That sound's promising that JEFF is off the market. The volume is very low today as well.


Good observation about the statement in the PR.

 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Wizardress: Just got an IM from byrd over at pro boards 32. He wants you to contact him there. Using byrdturdak47
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Had to drop the Juina post. There is some question over whether we own 49% of the properties mentioned earlier. I'll keep DDing and get back on it.

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 22, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 22, 2004).]
 


Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Hi Everyone, I think that JEFF leaving was good news and NITE is gone now too. I celebrated by buying some more CMKX @.0003 while supplies last.

I don't want anyone concerned about me being able to afford it bleeding all over themselves from their heart of liberality. I am doing AOK. Made some great trades lately and still buying the next one.

I am helping to organize a CMKX Meet and Greet at Boston Billiards in Worcester, MA on Saturday, October 9, from 12-3. We have a private room with 3 pool tables, a seating area, 2 TV's and some cafe dining sets. There will be waitstaff in and out to take orders for food and drinks with individual checks. The cost of the room will be about $2-3 a shareholder. You can email me at BookDebi@aol.com for more info if interested. There will be an assortment of CMKX'ers from different boards and it should be fun. We picked Worcester because it is so close to NH, CT, RI, Albany, NY and Southern VT and Southern ME. It is easy access from 84 and 95 and the Mass Pike.

About the Stock Patrol calling in sick yesterday, it would have been a 'Lame Excuse' if he broke his foot. But it was his hand so that makes it OK. IMO-Debi
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:
Hi Everyone, I think that JEFF leaving was good news and NITE is gone now too. I celebrated by buying some more CMKX @.0003 while supplies last.

I don't want anyone concerned about me being able to afford it bleeding all over themselves from their heart of liberality. I am doing AOK. Made some great trades lately and still buying the next one.

I am helping to organize a CMKX Meet and Greet at Boston Billiards in Worcester, MA on Saturday, October 9, from 12-3. We have a private room with 3 pool tables, a seating area, 2 TV's and some cafe dining sets. There will be waitstaff in and out to take orders for food and drinks with individual checks. The cost of the room will be about $2-3 a shareholder. You can email me at BookDebi@aol.com for more info if interested. There will be an assortment of CMKX'ers from different boards and it should be fun. We picked Worcester because it is so close to NH, CT, RI, Albany, NY and Southern VT and Southern ME. It is easy access from 84 and 95 and the Mass Pike.

About the Stock Patrol calling in sick yesterday, it would have been a 'Lame Excuse' if he broke his foot. But it was his hand so that makes it OK. IMO-Debi



Good to see you back Debi, and good luck on your shareholder party. Will expect some reports from you when its done. Can you afford $2-$3 for it? LOL

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 22, 2004).]
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Debi:
quote:
We picked Worcester because it is so close to NH, CT, RI, Albany, NY and Southern VT and Southern ME.

But one heck of a long drive from Wisconsin. Oh well.
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
nite & jeff gone!!!!???? well we can get ready for the theorys now...lol from they made so much naked shorting they couldn't hide the income any more to UC's masterplan unfolding, he scared them off. the truth is something must be up for them to drop out either cmkx is ready to report and they somehow have insider info to know this or maybe they were not shorting and just plain ran out of shares to trade...lol. shareholders getting the ucad & CIM dividends was set before today so that can't really be of any effect. the ucad pay date is meaningless to any shares bought now. maybe they were covering as any shares sold lost the seller the ucad dividend. either way friday we start getting real info on cmkx even if they don't want to give it out. its either report now or change the pay date to keep hiding the o/s. sort of like watching the roulette wheel spin. com' on less then 400 billion...lol
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
in a related item, just in from our canadian partners.... the same pr came out for united carina also signed by rick walker. actually this is from the 17th
==========================================
Consolidated Pine Channel Gold Corp. is pleased to announce a private
placement of 2,000,000 units at a price of $0.10 per unit for total
proceeds of $200,000. Each unit will consist of one common share and one
share purchase warrant entitling the holder to purchase one additional
common at a price of $0.15 for a period of one year. Of the 2,000,000
units issued, approximately 1,000,000 of the units will be flow-through.

The funds raised by way of the private placement will be used for
exploration of the Company's Saskatchewan gold and diamond properties and
for general corporate purposes.

ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD

Rick Walker,
President

TEL: (306) 664-3828 Rick Walker, President
FAX: (306) 244-0042

[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited September 22, 2004).]
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
Wizardress: Just got an IM from byrd over at pro boards 32. He wants you to contact him there. Using byrdturdak47

Noah thanks for the message. I got user ID on probards now so I should get in touch with him shortly.

Kido if you reading this my id is not much different from this one, you will see and I started thread with title: CMKX Hey byrd where are you!
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Hmmmmmm...sign of good things to come?

Press Release Source

: Shore Gold Inc.


Shore announces graduation to Tier 1 of the TSX Venture Exchange
Wednesday September 22, 6:07 pm ET


Stock Symbol: TSX-VEN: SGF
SASKATOON, SK, Sept. 22 /CNW/ - Kenneth E. MacNeill, President and Chief Executive Officer of Shore Gold Inc. ("Shore" or "the Company"), is pleased to announce that in accordance with TSX Venture Exchange Policy 2.5, the Company has met the requirements for a Tier 1 company. Therefore, effective Thursday, September 23, 2004, the Company's tier classification will change from Tier 2 to Tier 1.
Shore is a Canadian-based corporation engaged in the acquisition, exploration and development of mineral properties. Shares of the Company trade on the TSX Venture Exchange under the trading symbol "SGF".


"The TSX Venture Exchange has not reviewed and does not accept responsibility for the adequacy or accuracy of this release."


http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/orgDisplay.cgi?okey=14555

For further information

Mr. Kenneth E. MacNeill, President and Chief Executive Officer
George Sanders, Vice President Corporate Development
or Harvey J. Bay, Chief Financial Officer, (306) 664-2202


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
No JEFF,no NITE.Well?And CMKX longs are so close to getting our dividends.Hum,their timing is impeccable.Really has me wondering.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by highwaychild:
quote:
No JEFF,no NITE.Well?And CMKX longs are so close to getting our dividends.Hum,their timing is impeccable.Really has me wondering.

As much as I hate agreeing with a lowdown pumper (just kidding highway) I have to admit that it's got me wondering too.
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
are nite and jeff NOT buying any shares? if so, then they can't cover a nekked shirt....
 
Posted by will on :
 
They're like terroist, kill one, and another takes it's place.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by highwaychild:
As much as I hate agreeing with a lowdown pumper (just kidding highway) I have to admit that it's got me wondering too.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Speaking of lowdown, where's Moo been lately? I feel like a fight tonight! Gotta respect the old Holstein for what he's doing but I'd still like to hear from that old ragged milkcow every now and then.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i hope he's OK too.....
i wonder if he likes stew....
hunting him a pick thats' new...
hope he doesn't get the flu...
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
They're like terroist, kill one, and another takes it's place.


I SURE don't know,but I think when they heard the word 'diamondiferous' they got worried and tried to cover their tracks.Who knows, they might have.The way they tired to keep the price down kind of points to "tag your it" to me.

Upman I miss moo too,but I don't think he's through.
When he get's back,you won't know what to do.
You can try to run,you can try to hide,but if CMKX hits big,he'll be along for the ride.
Mooooooooooooooooo, where are you?LOL

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited September 22, 2004).]
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Since we're acting foolish, how about a Moo limerick?

There once was a Cash Cow named Moo,
In Iraq to protect me and you,
When you tugged on his teat,
You'd get not a milk treat,
But a handful of diamonds would spew!


 


Posted by gmac78 on :
 
I think everyone should start using their heads. After the "Carolyn micro" results EVERYTHING became "dead" quiet, but the manuvering started! Roger Glenn retained, partnerships formed, smaller companies are bought or at least controlled, everybody wanting a "piece" of the mineral rights, money starts flowing, UCAD secures a "financial bundle" for all their projects along with several other companies included in that "bundle", Rendal Williams words not mine, new drilling equipment to being bought, on and on!! I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to begin to see what is happening!!! My opinion only!!!

------------------
gmac
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
i hope there are some good sparklers in their claims...

you guys poems were better than mine was..
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
I'd agree, everyone should start using their heads. Dead quiet since the Carolyn results? Those results were released on 6/10/2004. Since then they have issued a mere 28 press releases. That's dead quiet? Exactly the opposite. They've done everything in their power to divert our attention away from the Carolyn results. Since the results they have not mentioned one word about that pipe. I know, I know, it's all part of the master plan because as Dr. D says, the Carolyn pipe is spitting out diamonds by the ton and they just don't wan't us to know it yet. I suggest that the Carolyn pipe is as devoid of diamonds as it was in 1996 when it was first drilled by a different company and found to be virtually empty. Further, use your head a little and ask yourself why they would drill there in the first place when they knew they were going to find nothing!?
 
Posted by Waveslider on :
 
EAT THIS

I NEED ANSWER TO THIS I NEED I NEED YOU ALL NEED TO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EXACTLY
 


Posted by Waveslider on :
 
TO BUY CMKX

UPSIDE, WALLY, WILL AND ALL THE OTHER BABY'S THAT NEED ANSWER'S (GO GET A JOB YOUR IN THE WRONG GAME)


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Wave,
My only answer is that you have been posting these charts for a while now and nothing has happened yet. Keep posting them though, they're fun to look at.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
stevewen1
Diamondoligist


member is offline


Gender:
Posts: 462
Re: cmf is at .70!this is going through the roof!
« Reply #4 on: Today at 6:40pm »

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The cmf is the chaikin money flow indicator.
It uses data similar to the a/d line.
Normally, when the cmf is a positive number it indicates bullish trends and when it is negative it indicates upcoming bearish trends.
The degree at how positive the cmf is can indicate whether or not they are strong buys and how strong the upward pressure is forming.
To be sure of a bullish conditions the indicator should be at or above .10, anything below would indicate weak buys.

Big movers usually occure at .3 -.4 cmf.

Also, historically evidence proves that if the cmf indicates bullish conditions, as cmkx is showing now, and the pps does not reflect the price, then the pps will burst in the short future.

I have yet to see a positive cmf of .68 before- only cmkx. I forgot to mention the length of the positive divergence.

CMKX has a long and very strong positive divergence and it should be reflected in the pps soon!

hope this helps...

 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Mr. Slider,
One more answer. I actually agree with you that charting can be a valuable tool with "normal" stocks, and to a much lesser degree, penny stocks. However, there is no way that you can look at a chart that has an o/s of 400 - 800 billion and a pps of .0003 and glean anything at all from it. Sure, the trend lines might be bullish as hell but it's meaningless. Until this company answers all of the unanswered questions surrounding it, your charts aren't worth a hill of beans. One last thing, a couple of weeks ago our resident good guy Noah said that we would be surprised to find out who you really are, inferring that you're someone like Dr. D, Zen, Sterling, etc. If you're one of these guys or one of their disciples, please go back to where you came from. Your theories are groundless and reside in the realm of fantasy.
 
Posted by will on :
 
If I could only sell at the CMF, and not the current PPS, I would love that graph.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by will:
quote:
If I could only sell at the CMF, and not the current PPS, I would love that graph.

It should be there soon. LOL.

 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
The "wave" I have been seeing as a "slider" is CMKX. Keeps sliding down and down. Next stop .0002 which then becomes the top of it's "wave". And then? Another "slider"?

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 22, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Up, thanks for the good guy label. NO, Wave is no guru, just a former poster here from long ago, who had enough of the constant negativism here. No big mystery, he identified himself to me and never gave me permission to tell anyone else. He may tell you someday, don't know.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
No its not byrd.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Will,
Is your e-mail not working? Just sent you something that got bounced back.
 
Posted by will on :
 
We knew that lol. There was no profanity.
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
No its not byrd.

[This message has been edited by will (edited September 22, 2004).]
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
noahltl wrote:

"Wave is no guru, just a former poster here from long ago, who had enough..."
-------------------------------------------
Awwwwwww! Isn't he the one who just posted above about "babys"? LOL
 


Posted by will on :
 
Didn't see anything. Maybe snot mail is having a problem.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Will,
Is your e-mail not working? Just sent you something that got bounced back.


 


Posted by will on :
 
It's not important who he is. He posted his information. Made his point, called a few people babies. If he's right, I make money. If he isn't I lose a little. Beats what gonna happen to some if he's wrong, and I haven't seen that PPS move in a long long time.
I did see that some people are still buying.
 
Posted by lanebro on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by WorkAHolic:

Man, lanebro, I'm sure glad we've got you to set us straight. I thought the poker chips were real and they were giving us money. You and Freud make a great team. You must be wise beyond your years. Last time I checked,this company was headquartered in Las Vegas.[This message has been edited by WorkAHolic (edited September 21, 2004).]
[/QUOTE

Okay, if you are so smart, why do you appear so naive? (To the layman, of course.) I guess you, of course, you sir, know the game.
It truly makes me ILL to see my fellow drag race fans get caught up in a mining scam blitz owned by a former prison guard. Let me ask you this, have you been doing what you do best, excel at, for many years? Gee, me too. I did not walk into my dream job. I earned it. And not off shirt-tails, and caniving. Excuse me for my frank opinion. PAID? Sorry, you can't GIVE me con-artist money. I earn my money off my own sweat and hard work.
Just an opinion.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by will:
quote:
Didn't see anything. Maybe snot mail is having a problem.

Tried to send it again, same problem. It's telling me that your mailbox is full. Got a bunch of Viagra and/or enlargement ads that you haven't deleted yet, maybe cause you're still considering them? Not important anyway, I'll try again later.
 


Posted by user095263 on :
 
i think my major problem in taking those charts seriously is that on another board waveslider's profile proclaims "45,000,000 shares holding long" and both boards have him registered only since aug 2004...

but one can hope.
~BB
 


Posted by will on :
 
Who cares. Hope the genius is right. CMF, ABC, XYZ, PPS, damnit!
I'm looking to sell this crap and make some money. Management can't move the PPS, maybe his technicals can.

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i think my major problem in taking those charts seriously is that on another board waveslider's profile proclaims "45,000,000 shares holding long" and both boards have him registered only since aug 2004...

but one can hope.
~BB



 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
lanebro,

If you ever do run across one of those CMKX chips, I sure would like to see both sides of it on this thread. Any chance?
 


Posted by user095263 on :
 
actually will, i care, or i wouldn't have taken the time to post.
~BB

[QUOTE]Originally posted by will:
Who cares. Hope the genius is right. CMF, ABC, XYZ, PPS, damnit!
I'm looking to sell this crap and make some money. Management can't move the PPS, maybe his technicals can.[QUOTE]


 


Posted by will on :
 
OK, that begs the question. Why do you care? He is just another long, strong, beliver, that uses graphs instead of text.

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
actually will, i care, or i wouldn't have taken the time to post.
~BB

[QUOTE]Originally posted by will:
Who cares. Hope the genius is right. CMF, ABC, XYZ, PPS, damnit!
I'm looking to sell this crap and make some money. Management can't move the PPS, maybe his technicals can.[QUOTE]



 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
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[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited September 22, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
Must be you, Upman. I just emailed myself from another account, and I received it. Try, try, again.

 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Will, I don't know why anyone would need a graph or chart anyway. Just looking at the pps is enough to see that the line is and has been going down. I know what most would think about such a graph if it represented revenues, earnings, cash flow or any other meaningful statistics.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
highwaychild wrote:

You wanta pay $9.99 Wally they got 'em for sale.
-------------------------------------------
Hell no, child. That would buy 33,300 shs of CMKX at .0003. LOL

But, thanks, maybe I can look it up on ebay.
 


Posted by will on :
 
It is irrelevant, Wallace. He is irrelevant. They are all irrelevant. You're right, I make money when I sell at a higher PPS than I bought at, and I think they realize CMF ain't PPS. So, genius, sell your CMKX at the CMF .68, can't do it, can ya?
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Will, I don't know why anyone would need a graph or chart anyway. Just looking at the pps is enough to see that the line is and has been going down. I know what most would think about such a graph if it represented revenues, earnings, cash flow or any other meaningful statistics.


 


Posted by Grasshopper on :
 
Geez Will, way to welcome someone who doesn't post often!!! Isn't your usual proclamation to let people post their feelings without fear of criticism? Afraid of different opinions being expressed on this board or what???

I see the the W&W twins are going to be at it again tonight. Oh well, gives me an excuse to ge to bed on time. 'Night all!

quote:
Originally posted by will:
OK, that begs the question. Why do you care? He is just another long, strong, beliver, that uses graphs instead of text.



 


Posted by will on :
 
Again, grasshopper, you miss my point. Makes no difference who he is, where he's from, how long he's been around, he's irrelevant. He and what he posted is nonsense. Again, I sell at the PPS not the CMF.

quote:
Originally posted by Grasshopper:
Geez Will, way to welcome someone who doesn't post often!!! Isn't your usual proclamation to let people post their feelings without fear of criticism? Afraid of different opinions being expressed on this board or what???

I see the the W&W twins are going to be at it again tonight. Oh well, gives me an excuse to ge to bed on time. 'Night all!



 


Posted by user095263 on :
 
because he does use those charts instead of text, and asked "i need an answer to this" for which i was answering.

and as upside noted he has been posting these charts for a while.

and because he uses these charts to justify his position. one which i would like to believe, except that he has a vested interest in keeping the hope alive, 45,000,000 strong worth.

it was just an opinion. i simply didn't appreciate you discarding my opinion with a "who cares". no biggie.

i do feel that people give more credence when a chart is posted, but in this case i don't see it backed up with facts- hence, no text.

oh- and the fact that the chart was based on the wrong volume.

i want to keep holding, and i'm looking for a valid reason to do so, because i, too, want to sell this crap and make some money!
~BB

quote:
Originally posted by will:
OK, that begs the question. Why do you care? He is just another long, strong, beliver, that uses graphs instead of text.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
say goodnight, grasshopper!
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i think my major problem in taking those charts seriously is that on another board waveslider's profile proclaims "45,000,000 shares holding long" and both boards have him registered only since aug 2004...

but one can hope.
~BB



Betting Babe, as I posted above, Wave is an old time poster from here. He just changed his screen name over there recently.


 


Posted by Grasshopper on :
 
Willie, I wasn't postng to defend the "chart master", I was recommending you ease up on "Betting Babe". I trust that it isn't a "he" we're referring to!

quote:
Originally posted by will:
Again, grasshopper, you miss my point. Makes no difference who he is, where he's from, how long he's been around, he's irrelevant. He and what he posted is nonsense. Again, I sell at the PPS not the CMF.



 


Posted by will on :
 
NO, I understood who and what you meant, grasshopper.
I wasn't trying to embarrass, or dismiss, babe. babe, if it seemed that way to you, I apologize.
I simply meant, him and his post are irrelevant. Until I see a PPS through the roof, which matches his CMF, it means nothing to me.

quote:
Originally posted by Grasshopper:
Willie, I wasn't postng to defend the "chart master", I was recommending you ease up on "Betting Babe". I trust that it isn't a "he" we're referring to!



 


Posted by glassman on :
 
that chart shows continued BUYING.....
no rise in the PPS with continued buying MEANS something.....

someday they will run out of shares, and as long as people keep buying, the PPS will eventually go up....

problem i see is that UC seems dedicated to making sure everybody in North America gets some....
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Glassman wrote:

"problem i see is that UC seems dedicated to making sure everybody in North America gets some...."
------------------------------------------
Glass, you don't really suppose he's been selling CMKX shs all along, do you? You don't suppose that's why they increased the authorized, do you? LOL


 


Posted by user095263 on :
 
ok noah, i saw your post earlier...
so let me add i would then question why one would change both their screen names on boards and/or newly register in aug 04. we all know we build credibility with our names.

no harm will. i get it. my position on credibility of waveslider's charts stands.
just wish the possibility of an increase in pps would, too.
~BB
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Damn, I walk away for an hour and miss all the fun!
 
Posted by will on :
 
Try sending me an email, slacker.

I replied, I got your test.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Damn, I walk away for an hour and miss all the fun!

[This message has been edited by will (edited September 22, 2004).]
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
I did Moe.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
ok noah, i saw your post earlier...
so let me add i would then question why one would change both their screen names on boards and/or newly register in aug 04. we all know we build credibility with our names.

no harm will. i get it. my position on credibility of waveslider's charts stands.
just wish the possibility of an increase in pps would, too.
~BB


Bettin Babe, Wave has been on that board far longer than his registration shows. Please note that he has 809 posts over there as Waveslider. He didn't accumulate that in a few weeks. My position here is not to defend or explain Waveslider. I was trying to assure you that he is a long timer. He is also a nice person. IM him over there and express your concerns to him, and I am sure he will explain it all to you.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Bettin Babe is it true that you just registered over there today????
 
Posted by user095263 on :
 
yes, byrd told me about it.. didn't know it was there. (no big testimonial there, huh? heah.)
and thx for the reassurance. im on the fence with this one, and just holding long til i see reason not to. already took profit once and went back in.
just playing the skeptic...
~BB
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
yes, byrd told me about it.. didn't know it was there. (no big testimonial there, huh? heah.)
and thx for the reassurance. im on the fence with this one, and just holding long til i see reason not to. already took profit once and went back in.
just playing the skeptic...
~BB


Didn't byrd warn you about this thread? LOL
You're ok with me Bettin Babe, I remember you from the "run" days of WNMI. Good to see you again.



 


Posted by user095263 on :
 
byrd? he told me to hold his place! jk. i don't talk like a trucker. LOL

thx noah.
yeah, the next time i run into steve chamberlin it'll be "warn this baby"! can't believe the way that one turned out...
~BB
 


Posted by will on :
 
Hey noah, any wild theories on NITE & JEFF leaving CMKX? (you know from the geniuses, Dr D, Zen, Sterling). The last few posts you copied from and posted here from Zen weren't too bad. He must have laid off the KoolAid for a week or so.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
byrd? he told me to hold his place! jk. i don't talk like a trucker. LOL

thx noah.
yeah, the next time i run into steve chamberlin it'll be "warn this baby"! can't believe the way that one turned out...
~BB



Got out of that one at the top. But I keep it on my radar for the Fall, based on what you said about that being the best time for modeling agencies. Hey it's almost fall. Still think it might go?


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Hey noah, any wild theories on NITE & JEFF leaving CMKX? (you know from the geniuses, Dr D, Zen, Sterling). The last few posts you copied from and posted here from Zen weren't too bad. He must have laid off the KoolAid for a week or so.



Wild?? You know me Will. If it was "wild" I wouldn't post it here.
 


Posted by will on :
 
DRKD be a better play than that pigslop WNMI, noah.

quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:

Got out of that one at the top. But I keep it on my radar for the Fall, based on what you said about that being the best time for modeling agencies. Hey it's almost fall. Still think it might go?



 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Will still have fond memories of WNMI. Bought a few minutes after the Paris Hilton news and sold at the top. But it hasn't looked very good since.


But since you wanted something on JEFF, this is about the best I've read today.

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Smedley,

Now that I've sobered up somewhat (I've been partying all day since the news about JEFF), perhaps I can help.

JEFF has been the ring master of this circus all year. Whether you believe him to be a tool of Urban's (Sterling's theory), or you believe him to be part of the "Axis of Evil" (George Bush's theory) is irrelevant. JEFF's departure is a true signal of a change taking place.

If Sterling is correct, then JEFF is done performing his service to Urban - i.e. wholesale retirement of shares is over. If George Bush is right, then JEFF has finally thrown in the towel - which means that other law-breakers will shortly follow suit. In other words, the unbelievable, endless streak of market manipulation will give way to the more "normal" game playing. Bottom line: the PPS finally has a real chance of moving up on the next positive news. (Might be the reason the SGGM PR was not mentioned by CMKX this time).

Next big opportunity for news is coming on Friday. DON'T TOUCH THAT DIAL...!



 


Posted by will on :
 
Weak
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
weak maybe, but it's the best we've got so far tonight.
 
Posted by user095263 on :
 
good question noah. i havent thought about it for a while. they did acquire a few new models- working ones. any work, ie paris's guess campaign, that started running this summer (the ads came out in aug) would be paid by now. i guess revenues could be looking better.
see a few friends on their website. think ill start asking the girls if they're actually getting any work thru the agency.
starting with an email right now... letchya know.
~BB
 
Posted by will on :
 
Well, maybe they need to sleep on it. It'll be getting wild soon. Tomorrow's the 23rd, and Friday is the alledged pay date for the UCAD dividend. Remember, the "squeeze of the century" is still hanging out there somewhere.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
weak maybe, but it's the best we've got so far tonight.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Will:
quote:
Well, maybe they need to sleep on it. It'll be getting wild soon. Tomorrow's the 23rd, and Friday is the alledged pay date for the UCAD dividend. Remember, the "squeeze of the century" is still hanging out there somewhere.

Yep, the clock is ticking, until the new theory comes out.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by Will:
Yep, the clock is ticking, until the new theory comes out.


You guys really need to get out to more places. There are already several new target dates. Oct 1, 3 or 4, 7, & 15. And each one with a theory. My target date is the PR date that announces share structure and evaluation. Any run before that is just a bonus. And as each date comes along I'm sure you will chose to ridicule it or at least the person who came up with it. I can kind of see it now. It's 2005: will: "Well it'll never get over a dollar. This stock is just a piece of sh...and it'll be going down tomorrow." Upside: "will if you had just learned to read a chart, maybe we would have been stocked up on shares. I'm still happy, I got out at .01." Wallace: "I finally found it. There's a code on the back of the poker chip that says UC is a crook."

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 23, 2004).]
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
HA HA HA!,Thanks Noah I needed a good laugh before work.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
any squeeze because of dividends is over and has been since the 20th of aug. still something is up if nite & jeff stay dropped out. could be they wanted to mess with our minds like cmkx...lol and they will be right back at it today or monday from what ameritrade told me a month ago ucad dividend very well could be announced by a pr, the part about details to be announced later. the o/s will be there for all to see. it will be interesting if there is a differance between it and cim. maybe even the geologists report on the new drill site might be ready. the carolyn pipe was passed over too many times before cmkx to hold much hope. i have an idea we wont hear more about sggm till the final payment is made. and god forbid maybe even reporting is possible...lol. ucad said their s-10 was to be out soon so maybe that cmkx reporting & removal of the restriction will come all together. now till oct 2nd could have some possitive news finally
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Again, grasshopper, you miss my point. Makes no difference who he is, where he's from, how long he's been around, he's irrelevant. He and what he posted is nonsense. Again, I sell at the PPS not the CMF.


Will, with all due respect, let me remind you that you once chastized me severely for objecting to one whom I felt was bashing this stock. You told me I was in the wrong league. I have watched you posts since then and have grown to understand that you often have a lot of good common sense opinions. However, now you seem to be getting very personal. Nobody is irrelevant. I'm sure you don't just decide to buy a stock based on its pps. I'm sure you do extensive DD and take a very good look at fundamentals. Just as there are different styles of learning, there are different ways to learn about a stock. Technicians are visual. What's wrong with using what best fits one's needs when learning about a potential investment. JMO

Will, keep posting. I respect your opinion. I don't respect your personal attacks.


 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. (OTC BB: UCAD)

Issues: 7/18/2004 // 7/19/2004

Company Profile

U.S. Canadian Minerals (UCAD), Has several specific exploration objectives during phase one in its exploration efforts. Be it in Saskatchewan or one of the selected exploration targets identified by management,the decision process is clear and specific. First to use all technologies past and current to make each part of the exploration as cost efficient as possible. By use of geological stored data to satellite imaging, U.S. Canadian Minerals will make use of resources available to management forthe location of one or more Kimberlite/Lamproite pipes, dykes, or sills; and to determine whether the Kimberlite/Lamproite contains Diamonds; and to determine if the demand-bearing pipe has a high enough grade to justify a mine. http://www.otcpro.com/featuredco.asp
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
79 mil has traded and no current price, high, low, nor open. What's up with that?
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
I thought today was the ucad divvy date. I don't have mine yet. Anyone have theirs?
 
Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
DW
Buys or sells ? If buys maybe a cover @.0003
VAN
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
Van
My fidelity data does not tell me whether buys or sells but now things are back to normal. Thanks.
Don
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
I thought today was the ucad divvy date. I don't have mine yet. Anyone have theirs?

Tomorrow DW, if that is the real date. Still only have OTC BB to rely on. If it is the payment date, it may not show up in accounts until Monday.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
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JUST IN CASE YOU FORGOT

I posted an article months ago. CRWN is run by the brother of the guy that runs JEFF. Both were former traders at NITE before leaving to start their own market making companies. No surprise that CRWN is handling the action now. We'll see what happens. I just don't think there will be enough buying ever to stop them from shorting until it is real, actual, solid news on share structure and what the heck is going on. And even if they let it "pop" to .0004 or .0005 I expect tons of selling by weak longs at that point looking to just recoup their investment and get out. We'll see. Shorts will run this like the pros they are IMO.


Z

As always, these are my personal opinions.

Hopefully nobody in here is investing anything but "fun" money that they can afford to gamble with.
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Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
Tomorrow DW, if that is the real date. Still only have OTC BB to rely on. If it is the payment date, it may not show up in accounts until Monday.


Right Noah. I'm living a day in the past. lol


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
I know what you mean DW. I'd love to live a day in the past, if they'd let me chose which one. LOL
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Come on noahltl, this thread is getting boring. Maybe I can get a few posters whipped up! Looks like CMKX is a bit frosted, huh? LOL

Reminds me of a horsefly just as cold weather begins to set in. Cannot suck blood as much and slows down considerably. LOL

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 23, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
dwman, with all due respect, notice who is the perpetrator here, note time of my post vs. his:

Waveslider
Member posted September 22, 2004 21:26
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TO BUY CMKX
UPSIDE, WALLY, WILL AND ALL THE OTHER BABY'S THAT NEED ANSWER'S (GO GET A JOB YOUR IN THE WRONG GAME)

Now the fact that he chooses to hide behind a new identity, and the fact that he was clearly on the attack, makes him highly irrelevant to me.

quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
Will, with all due respect, let me remind you that you once chastized me severely for objecting to one whom I felt was bashing this stock. You told me I was in the wrong league. I have watched you posts since then and have grown to understand that you often have a lot of good common sense opinions. However, now you seem to be getting very personal. Nobody is irrelevant. I'm sure you don't just decide to buy a stock based on its pps. I'm sure you do extensive DD and take a very good look at fundamentals. Just as there are different styles of learning, there are different ways to learn about a stock. Technicians are visual. What's wrong with using what best fits one's needs when learning about a potential investment. JMO

Will, keep posting. I respect your opinion. I don't respect your personal attacks.



 


Posted by netsec on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Come on noahltl, this thread is getting boring. Maybe I can get a few posters whipped up! Looks like CMKX is a bit frosted, huh? LOL

Reminds me of a horsefly just as cold weather begins to set in. Cannot suck blood as much and slows down considerably. LOL

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 23, 2004).]


Wallace#1, I think everyone is waiting for tommorow. I know nothing has to happen for sure in the way of dividends but if nothing does happen tomorrow, with all the build-up and anticpation we have in the investor community, I think we could see trading at the $.0002 level most of the day. MO


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Waveslider:
quote:
Waveslider
Member posted September 22, 2004 21:26
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TO BUY CMKX
UPSIDE, WALLY, WILL AND ALL THE OTHER BABY'S THAT NEED ANSWER'S (GO GET A JOB YOUR IN THE WRONG GAME)

Doji say what?!!


 


Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
noah, will, uspide, glassman do i have to put ALL of you in timeout moo? your always fighting with eachother! its like the battle of the wills and wits to see who is macho!

milk the moo you get milk? no silly everyone knows moo gives diamonds not milk what you thinking moooooo
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by CashCowMoo:
quote:
its like the battle of the wills and wits to see who is macho!

Don't you mean machmoo?
 


Posted by will on :
 
MACHIZMOO !
 
Posted by will on :
 
Good catch, Upman. It does ressemble Doji man. The 45M is a little off, he had 78M. but I suspect he sold some off for profit and a free position.
I followed Doji. He was good, we both got killed in PAVP/CDVJ, but everyone picks a bad one. If I had the energy I'd go back to those PAVP/CDVJ threads and look for CMF arguement there. It just isn't important enough.
BTW, close .0003

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by Waveslider:
Doji say what?!!


[This message has been edited by will (edited September 23, 2004).]
 


Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
the only direction this stock is going is UP...look how low it is and even IF you nay sayers are right just the pure soon to be hype will make it rise....lots of you just dont know how to play the game do you
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Moo you sound a little upset. You didn't contract a case of mad cow disease did you?
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Saskatchewan Assessment Work Catalogue Search
Owner: CASAVANT, CAROLYN
Joint Venture Partner: (OPTION: C CASAVAN (40%)- SEAWEST RES. (60%))
Commodity Information - Diamond Exploration
http://www.ir.gov.sk.ca/dbsearch/MinAssessQuery/Default.asp?ID=73I15%2D0014

 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
dwman, with all due respect, notice who is the perpetrator here, note time of my post vs. his:

Waveslider
Member posted September 22, 2004 21:26


Sorry Will. I was too hasty.


 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Fort A La Corne area, Saskatchewan
Saskatchewan Assessment Work Catalogue
..............
http://www.ir.gov.sk.ca/dbsearch/MinAssessQuery/Default.asp




 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
noah, will, upside or whoever....was jeff & nite still out today? i see the post about crwn, seems to me i've seen that before looking at a free trial level 2. i'm asking cause the trial is over..lol. also out of all the c**p that was or will signal a pps change this might be something that actually has meaning. that is if it lasts
 
Posted by will on :
 
bill, I don't know. Don't have L2 on pinks.

quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
noah, will, upside or whoever....was jeff & nite still out today? i see the post about crwn, seems to me i've seen that before looking at a free trial level 2. i'm asking cause the trial is over..lol. also out of all the c**p that was or will signal a pps change this might be something that actually has meaning. that is if it lasts


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
noah, will, uspide, glassman do i have to put ALL of you in timeout moo? your always fighting with eachother! its like the battle of the wills and wits to see who is macho!

milk the moo you get milk? no silly everyone knows moo gives diamonds not milk what you thinking moooooo



so glad to see yooo
we worry about the mooo
we hate the insurgents toooo
hoping for your PR that is new....

 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
noah, will, upside or whoever....was jeff & nite still out today? i see the post about crwn, seems to me i've seen that before looking at a free trial level 2. i'm asking cause the trial is over..lol. also out of all the c**p that was or will signal a pps change this might be something that actually has meaning. that is if it lasts


JEFF was out. NITE has never left, just sits below the high on ask. He was sitting at .0004 today.


 


Posted by Waveslider on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Good catch, Upman. It does ressemble Doji man. The 45M is a little off, he had 78M. but I suspect he sold some off for profit and a free position.
I followed Doji. He was good, we both got killed in PAVP/CDVJ, but everyone picks a bad one. If I had the energy I'd go back to those PAVP/CDVJ threads and look for CMF arguement there. It just isn't important enough.
BTW, close .0003

[This message has been edited by will (edited September 23, 2004).]



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well i'll be dam*ed you guy's pegged me out..lol

waveslider is DOJI SAY WHAT!!! till i got in to it with the admin over a funny photo i posted. i thought it was funny ALLSTOCKS ADMIN didn't.

about the baby comment - SORRY IT WAS RASH & uncalled for.

cdvj Will THAT PLAY DID HURT THE BANK. I have 43,800 worthless csjj learned alot from that tanker & divy

78mil down to 45mil is where i'm at and there almost free... going even 50mil till the end of the year.

from DOJI SAY WHAT!!! I'M BACKKKKKKKKKK

[This message has been edited by Waveslider (edited September 23, 2004).]
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
netsec wrote (edited):
I think we could see trading at the $.0002 level most of the day. MO
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Wouldn't surprise me if it hits .0002 and bounces off .0001 tomorrow, no matter what, if anything at all, comes out re the div. This thing doesn't do anything but go down on any kind of news lately.

 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Waveslider:
quote:
from DOJI SAY WHAT!!! I'M BACKKKKKKKKKK

Welcome back Doji. If I pizz you off, just let me know. We can play point/counter point.
 


Posted by Waveslider on :
 

EVEN WITH ALL THE BASHING THIS IS WHY I STILL WAIT AND HOLD... CMKX HAAS BEEN A LONG WAIT BUT I FEEL IT WILL BE WORTH IT...

JUST TO MUCH NEGATIVE EFFORT AGAINST CMKX TO IGNORE...

STRONG BUY
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Christ, are we gonna start already?
 
Posted by Waveslider on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by Waveslider:
Welcome back Doji. If I pizz you off, just let me know. We can play point/counter point.

(NO on the point/counter point)

MY TYPING SKILLS SUCK... AND I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT COMMENT upside & will. wally you still suck....

doji say what / waveslider here in central florida where we are about to see our 2nd hurricane strike.. this time we are staying

wow this is a crazy year & that is why cmkx will pop...


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
This is A post worth reading..........by elcamino

As they say colloquially, the silence is deafening. We appear to be in a CMKX deprivation chamber void of information.

The biggest complaint right now from shareholders seems to be the lack of news to substantiate the rumors of cash dividends and a reason to celebrate at the Las Vegas Shareholder’s Party. Only now, we are beginning to realize that there may not be a reason to celebrate as the company moves towards building the fundamental elements needed to become a fully reporting company that can then report on its assets and its value. It is certainly possible, since I am a man of hope to think that there may be a reason for going to Las Vegas. A reason obviously is not enough people need cash to get there. Whether we will have that cash available is hard for anyone to say. I will be there since Las Vegas is only a stone’s throw from California. I am still hoping to see as many of you there as possible.

As I see it, there is Old Business and New Business at work in CMKX. The old business revolves around “cleaning house” and removing the cobwebs from deals consummated two years ago by CMKX. Some of these deals required pay offs and others just simply were cancelled. I will not go through the long list of expected ventures from those days, but everyone can go back to those PR’s and check it out. I strongly believe that Mr. John Ed Dhonau from Nevada Minerals rescued CMKX shareholders and assisted Urban in getting out of some potentially bad deals at the time after he and Urban became acquainted with one another. Mr. Dhonau has an impeccable reputation in the business world. He does compliance enforcement for the SEC, and is held in high regard by both government and industry. We are fortunate to have him on our team.

After some discussions, I realized that the two-year restriction on many of the restricted shares held by the 9000 or so registered shareholders are due to mature. The process of accounting for these shares and determining who got them and who did not has taken some time. This was the topic of a past press release. I believe accountability of these shares is complete and now the company has to determine whether to release the restrictions on them or not. With these restrictions lifted, the possibility of seeing these shares sold on the open market would appear to average shareholder as if the CMKX was selling shares. Most of the certificates are in Urban’s name held for the individuals. So anyone checking through a broker or market maker would be advised that this is the case.

On the other hand, the question of a naked short sell has been a topic of contention as well. Several people that I have spoken with including a market maker that I contacted by phone has confirmed the short. The question is just how large is the short position with CMKX. If anyone wants to really know, what I think about the short position then I will refer you to post # 59120 made by Oaks on August 4th in Sterling’s Classroom on Raging Bull. http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=59120

I do not believe that we have an extremely large short but there is a short. In a nutshell when we see a filing I believe we may see a different share structure than what we have been previously led to believe.

Today we saw Jeffries and Company disappear from the Level 2 quotes and some shareholders have even called to confirm that they can no longer make a market for CMKX. It was just a matter of time. We will see how long this lasts and if in fact, it is what it is. As we have seen, the volume is low and it appears that availability of shares is becoming scarce. This just a couple of days before the UCAD dividend appear in our accounts. This is an indication that we are very close to seeing the Casavant Maneuver (Oaks) in all its glory. As I indicated at one point, the Casavant Maneuver is Specific, Pertinent, Applicable and Measurable. As it all comes together what I look forward to seeing is the measurable aspect of the maneuver. That is the point were we could begin to measure the results through an increase in the price per share.

Under Old Business, also have the CIM shares issued to shareholders a year ago. Those who were in CMKX back then will be coming up on their one-year anniversary with those shares shortly. It is my understanding that those shares have tremendous value and potential especially since those people will be receiving new shares of the CIM dividend in addition to what they received last year. If unrestricted when CIM goes public those shares will give value to those that have the extra shares. Reason enough to hang around and see where this all goes.

The New Business centers on new deals and new companies that we have yet to even imagine or speculate. As we saw recently the public emergence of St. George’s Metals Inc. left us all dumbfounded. No one knew anything about this company or that it was about to go public at the end of a 30 day quiet period. Well what if a quite period is still in effect awaiting the emergence of more deals and more companies. At this point, that is the most likely scenario as we draw closer to becoming a fully reporting company and our associations with Nevada Minerals and U. S. Canadian Minerals flourishes and grows stronger each day.

Today we received a press release concerning the delivery of the third $2.5M installment of the $10M dollar deal with SGGM. According to their IR person, Ms. Vicki Curran we will shortly see press releases enlightening us more about the company. I hope that it will also shed some light as to the relationship between the two companies.

We hear that we will be fully reporting by Christmas of 2004 and that momentum for 2005 is even better for this company with incredible potential. Many very intelligent shareholders that I have the pleasure of speaking with have speculated on some of these deals and it will be exciting to see how, when or if some of these scenarios will play out. For now we hold on to millions of acres of claims, core samples that have the potential to forensically tell a story about our future and the deliberate and methodical manner in which Urban Casavant, D. Roger Glen and John Ed Dhonau and even Rendall Williams orchestrate the finale to this opera which began two years ago.

The issues surrounding the increase in the authorized shares and the distribution multiple for CIM revealing a potential short or potential upcoming increase to almost 1.6 trillion shares is in my opinion a head fake as Urban runs to the end-zone. These multiples can change before the payout date of the dividend and may serve a purpose other than just letting us know how many shares we will receive. Since many have already postulated the share structure I will not bore you with the details but I will say that part of the Casavant Maneuver was to buffer the shock of the shareholders through the distribution of these dividends. When the 10QSB is filed, we will already be anesthetized, however, I also believe that we will be extremely surprised at what we see in the report in regards to structure and valuation.

As many of you know, I do my best not to speculate but prefer to analyze factual data and put together information that I have heard or know to be fact. Many of the issues that I address in this post originate from conversations and inferences made to me by many.

I have heard Urban espouse his love for racing to many shareholders at the races and have heard him tell them that he personally has funded these races and not CMKX. In addition, Urban has personally been funding day-to-day operations until joint venture deals and cash began to funnel into CMKX through the many deals that we are now seeing. There is no auditor that I know of who can argue that a company that has cash on the balance sheet is not a solvent company. We are solvent and a very viable business concern. Now we need to produce earnings. Part of the new business that we have yet to be made aware of which includes core sample results, audit results, a 10QSB and framework denoting the plan for the future. I hope that this framework will reflect mineral claims that may be sold to other competent agencies and more joint ventures with prominent companies in the FALC area including long-term plans for mining operations.

At some point soon, we can expect CMKX to be fully reporting; our CEO to do a state of the union style address to the shareholders and see the beginning of a legacy materialize right before our eyes.

I encourage you all to sit tight and wait out the storm we are in the eye of the Perfect Storm (Sterling) and soon the whirlwind will carry us off to profits and reasons for celebration. The time draws nigh, the market makers and any devious individuals suspected of trying to do us in are facing their demise. House cleaning is complete and new deals are on the way.

This all appears complicated but is in fact marvelous in its simplicity. Do not think too deeply into it and keep things basic and fundamental. As I indicated in my Canadian trip report, it is Business 101.

My Best to all and God Bless

elcamino


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Well, I hope you stay safe in Florida. Lord knows you've taken enough of a beating already down there. As for the point/counterpoint thing, I probably won't be able to stop myself from posting when I disagree with you and I hope you'll do the same when you think I'm full of it. That's what keeps this thread fun.
 
Posted by will on :
 
No harm, no foul, Doji Man. I am a baby over this stock. Hope your right and that money flow graph turns into the price of this thing.
Hard to have faith in the techinicals on this one, for me at least. The management is so messed up, they could screw up a cream pie.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Will, check your e-mail.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Thanks Doji. And you are still irrelevant!!

Surprised you haven't told anyone to "shut up" yet. LOL
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Will wrote:
The management is so messed up, they could screw up a cream pie.
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What "management"??????

 
Posted by will on :
 
Should I have said mismanagement?

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Will wrote:
The management is so messed up, they could screw up a cream pie.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
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CMKX down pressure as expected for a huge NSSP
« Thread started on: Sep 23rd, 2004, 10:55am »

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We are seeing what I expected we would see in the market place on CMKX if the MM's truly had an extremely large NSS position. Too, there is every indication right now that CMKX has been advised to be completely silent for a period of time. By whom? We can only speculate, but I would say the advice came through Roger Glenn and his communications with the SEC about our securities problem with the NSS position. I do not see the SEC or anyone else putting a gag order on CMKX saying you can't report the SGGM monies that just came into the company nor do I see them officially being told to not mention that they are a part of the Vegas Party. What is suprising that UCAD doesn't mention CMKX in their PR about the party. I can see CMKX being silent, but for another company (UCAD) to not mention CMKX on a joint venture PARTY in Vegas is just plain weird. I willl not speculate on the possibilities that stimulates in my mind at this time.

I have to agree with Zen that CRWN is run by the brother of he that runs JEFF. I believe they are in so deep that they will have to continue to short, even at these levels, through the October 1st dividend. The downward pressure they are generating is easily seen through the above 90% retail buys showing that the sells are coming from the MM's and not you and I. In an even or clear trading market for CMKX we would have a near perfect percentage balance.

This is a major gamble on the part of the MM's, but they are believing that the downward pressure will be too much for investors after the dividends go through. Ater Oct 2, the MM's expect the weak handed investors to begin selling their positions which could easily be near 100 billion or more and unfortunately it looks like they will possibly get them to do just that. It doesn't take long reading the posts around some of the boards to see how vulnerable a lot of investors are at this point.

All in all we are going to see this down pressure for another 1 - 2 weeks or until we announce being fully reporting. With current developments inside CMKX no one can really guess accurately what news is going to come out next. We have our hopes and dreams, but until it officially comes out, that is all they are. When the air clears and CMKX is unveiled we will all be pleased in my opinion.

Keep the faith. The answers to the questions that many have are coming forth very soon.

Be well

Dr.D
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Anyone with L2 that shows MMs? Vol started off with a bang but has come to a screeching slow down. Are we in this alone or are there MMs lurking?
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Everyone watching their accounts for the dividend today? Nothing in mine yet.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
Appears the MMs all slept late this morning.
 
Posted by lionelbuff on :
 
My wife and I are new to posting. We started buying CMKX in March of this year and have accumulated 19.4M. The posting we find is interestig. We greatly appreciate those fifteen people that take time out each week to post at least three times a week. We have become more informed this year than the last ten years in the regular market. We like our brokers but do our own research.

Message for the stockholders with UCAD dividend coming. Contacted Ameritrade early this week and they stated that the preliminary count of 15.5 shares of UCAD for every million of CMKX. Again, contacted this same Department of Compliance & Safekeeping of Records & Dividends. As of 9/24/04 they stated, "officially UCAD dividend would be added to our account today." The officially has come from the Depository Unit(DTCC). However, at 9am(EST) the depository stated they did not receive the go ahead word yet.

Jack

 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Jack,
Going to be in York next month?
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Thanks for the info, lionelbuff, and glad you're posting now.
 
Posted by pokeypanda on :
 
I got a ? ... why do 1 billion shares of this thing get traded everyday? I mean I understand people buy at .0003 and holding till like .0004 even...but the price never moves! Do they just trade to lose commissions or what?
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
just a thought...if jeff & nite are still out...say they were naked shorting to whatever amount, since any sells also lost the ucad dividend and since being restricted shares that they can not buy or short to cover maybe their game is up. no squeeze, no run up in the pps to try and cover, just threw in the towel. like saying we're short, we're not covering so sue me. they may have been able to cover a large amount of shares over the last couple of months and only be short a few hundred million at .000whatever so what a few hundred thousand and its covered included cash for ucad, gemm and only god knows if cim will ever cost them anything. why not just walk. you think a shareholder with a few million shares is going to get a lawyer costing thousands at least for a .0003 stock?. maybe a fine from the sec and thats a maybe because its a pink sheet and shareholders, right or wrong are the bottom of the food chain
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by pokeypanda:
I got a ? ... why do 1 billion shares of this thing get traded everyday? I mean I understand people buy at .0003 and holding till like .0004 even...but the price never moves! Do they just trade to lose commissions or what?

Pokey. Everyday recently, 90% of the trades are "buys" only 10% sales. The MM's are obviously trading back and forth between themselves to hold the pps down.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Bill, naked shorting is criminal. They have more to worry about than being sued. And if a suit is necessary, it will be a class action, supported by a group of investors.
 
Posted by is300 on :
 
Looks like zeninvestor has finally flipped:
http://tinyurl.com/6vpnn

I would put some serious fire to the feet of Urban or any other insider that attends about
why we are not being given simple PRs about dividend ratio, distribution dates as well as the
updates from the Canada meeting that were expected weeks ago. I have preached patience and I
stand by that, but I also feel the company owes shareholders a MINIMUM level of
communication. I don't even care about the share price for right now. I just would like to
have basic information from the company that I can count on. Melvin has ceased to be a source
of any reliable information. I wouldn't trust a single word out of his mouth. Vicki at SGGM
is not CMKX's IR person. Chris at UCAD can only tell us so much. And the company refuses to
put out even remedial, obvious PRs. If we don't have UCAD shares in our accounts today, there
should be a formal explanation on this. I know we won't get it. Someone should drill (sorry
for the pun) management on this.

If they are asking us to show the kind of blind faith and loyalty they obviously are seeking
from shareholders, the LEAST they can do is give us the bare minimum of courtesy and respect
through proper shareholder communication. And enough of the Urban loves you crap and is doing
everything for you crap. This is still an INVESTMENT first and should be handled
professionally.

 


Posted by is300 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
Pokey. Everyday recently, 90% of the trades are "buys" only 10% sales. The MM's are obviously trading back and forth between themselves to hold the pps down.

Uh oh the B-S`ometer is going off.. how would you know what percent are sales and buys. And if 90% truely are buys then who is selling? Simple it's called DILLUTION of the 800 BILLION A/S. good grief if you are going to blindly pump at least make some sense. You lurk here 24x7, you would think you would of learned something by now.
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
BILL
= = = = = = =
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
just a thought...if jeff & nite are still out...say they were naked shorting to whatever amount, since any sells also lost the ucad dividend and since being restricted shares that they can not buy or short to cover maybe their game is up. no squeeze, no run up in the pps to try and cover, just threw in the towel. like saying we're short, we're not covering so sue me. they may have been able to cover a large amount of shares over the last couple of months and only be short a few hundred million at .000whatever so what a few hundred thousand and its covered included cash for ucad, gemm and only god knows if cim will ever cost them anything. why not just walk. you think a shareholder with a few million shares is going to get a lawyer costing thousands at least for a .0003 stock?. maybe a fine from the sec and thats a maybe because its a pink sheet and shareholders, right or wrong are the bottom of the food chain

= = = = = = = =
Any thoughts on how the brokers would react to this ?
1-Would it not be probable that each shareholder might pull all accounts if they hung you out to dry
2-Is it not the brokers responsiblilty to be sure that shares are settled to street name ?
3-Would every broker be willing to accept a fine ?

VAN


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
NITE is a PUBLICLY HELD CO they have shareholders to answer to....
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i agree it is criminal but a proven naked short news hitting the air waves would cause a panic thus not desirable. i dont think the brokers would be involved. the whole idea is that the mm's borrow the shares from the DTC thus a record of who borrowed what thus a direct link to each mm. the brokers would fall into the victim catagory. if they pay ucad today monday any naked shares are exposed no if &'s or but's
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
WOW...Zen's drugs wore off..lol must have ran out of that aged opium...lol
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
OFFICIAL ON OTCBB SITE:

UCAD ON 6 OCT @ SAME RATIO OF .00000962 http://tinyurl.com/5pzsx

"CIM" ON 16 OCT @ SAME RATIO: .0256 http://tinyurl.com/6z3c5


still nothing posted about GEMM under
ALL CMKX DIVIDENDS @ otcbb.com here:
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dividend.asp?sym_id=CMKX&sDateType=ex_dt
http://tinyurl.com/4gd65

what a f'ing joke wheres the pr on this one that is lame I think it is time to get out before it goes to .0001 oh I guess when we do get our "divies" it will be changed to dec of 2008 and for every share of cmkx we will get .000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 shares of ucad and half that for cim what a stupid joke



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by sdrobert:
quote:
for every share of cmkx we will get .000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 shares of ucad

That would make the total value of my UCAD dividend .0008 cents. Not too shabby.
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Better than the price of a share of cmkx, Up. LOL
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
lol
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
bill1352 wrote:
WOW...Zen's drugs wore off..lol must have ran out of that aged opium...lol
--------------------------------------------
Bill, LMAO at that one. It does look like Zen might have lost a lot of the "sparkle", doesn't it?


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
So now both the UCAD and the CIM dividends reflect an o/s of approximately 1.6 trillion. Noah, do you think you could post Dr. D's "this is good news" theory as soon as he releases it? I can't wait to see that one!
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
pokeypanda,

Be careful about what some of the posters here tell you. Remember, the markets require that in order for a trade to be consumated "for every willing seller, there must be a willing buyer.
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
well the truth is it is great news rumor has it from the most reliable source, ill tell you who at the end of this post. They had to gather all the accountants and all personel involved in getting the shares to come to the dig site. THEY FOUND A DIAMOND THE SIZE OF A SEMI!!! they needed the extra help to carry this to the back of there wharehouse. more info can be found at www.casavantmining for glass diamonds.com
oh on another note there has been rumor that the vegas party is actualy an fbi sting set up to bust grandma ethel because of her 600 dollars of naked short shares and her cousin the 16 year old miget who is actualy the president of the company. good luck on winning the kia. did you now it is as pretty as a chevette and gets the same gas mileage.
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
oh yeah the reliable source is urban's second cousins wifes sister's friends lawyer's son
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
oh yeah he also happens to be a distant relitive of grandma ethel's midget
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
LMAO robert...good one...
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
just off the phone with ameritrade...nasdqa trader also has the delay and the .000000962 or whatever listed...the guy i talked to has been waiting for the dtc to release the dividened himself, has been expecting a lot larger volume of calls on it. i brought up the aug 18th a/s increase and how the split changed 11 days later, said how selling 300 billion shares was not possible in that time. he said yes it was, that there are huge blocks sold in cmkx all the time that do not get into the volume totals each day. he said he didn't know but with cmkx that could have went in 1 or 2 blocks. sounded as if he was a shareholder, knew of zen & dr. d reads the bb's about this stock, has been to the cmkx web site at least the old one with the cars
 
Posted by is300 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
So now both the UCAD and the CIM dividends reflect an o/s of approximately 1.6 trillion. Noah, do you think you could post Dr. D's "this is good news" theory as soon as he releases it? I can't wait to see that one!

LOL .. talk about criminal!! My firm belief is there is no naked shorting and it was all a front to Dillute shares and Roger was called in to make it all legal smegal.
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
A while ago I figured out that 800 billion stock certificates stacked one on top of the other would reach halfway to the moon. Now at 1.6 trillion the pile would actually reach it. Figure that's what Melvin meant when he said "we're going to the moon"?
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
this just in...

HUGE STOCK SCAM!!!!

CMKX Diamonds was found to be scamming trillions of investors. Today news came out about Urban Casavant and his diamonds claims. Even though the stock price was .0004 for months people keep buying. Today the outstanding share count of 1.6 trillion shares was announced. This is added to a naked shorted count of 3 trillion shares. Said Mr. Casavant, “I saw all this shiny glassy stuff and thought forc sure it was diamonds, turns out it was just old rum bottles from a party we had a few years ago. The SEC said that since Urban had such a good lawyer and since he was so sure it was diamonds they wouldn’t prosecute. In fact Wall Street was looking into putting up a statue in honor of the great Casavant manuveur. More on the story on the next 60 Minutes II.


opps, just refreshed i guess the story was forged, something to do with Debeers.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
this just in...

HUGE STOCK SCAM!!!!

CMKX Diamonds was found to be scamming trillions of investors. Today news came out about Urban Casavant and his diamonds claims. Even though the stock price was .0004 for months people keep buying. Today the outstanding share count of 1.6 trillion shares was announced. This is added to a naked shorted count of 3 trillion shares. Said Mr. Casavant, “I saw all this shiny glassy stuff and thought forc sure it was diamonds, turns out it was just old rum bottles from a party we had a few years ago. The SEC said that since Urban had such a good lawyer and since he was so sure it was diamonds they wouldn’t prosecute. In fact Wall Street was looking into putting up a statue in honor of the great Casavant manuveur. More on the story on the next 60 Minutes II.


opps, just refreshed i guess the story was forged, something to do with Debeers.



Thank you Mr. Rather. LOL


 


Posted by legal1082 on :
 
Just got off the phone with Ameritrade, since their web site is down. I was told that the payable date is today (as we all knew), but that we may not see the shares for about a week. Apparently, they have to be delivered to each brokerage house.

Hope this isn't repeat information!
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Bill1352 wrote:

"huge blocks sold in cmkx all the time that do not get into the volume totals each day."
-------------------------------------------
How many of you missed the above?
 


Posted by legal1082 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Bill1352 wrote:

"huge blocks sold in cmkx all the time that do not get into the volume totals each day."



What does that mean to us?
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
This is VERY interesting reading -
All mining interests are mentioned and the info. from bulk samples... there's alot of good reading!

The bottom of page 26 notice the Company that has approx. 250 claims under PROPERTIES AVAILABLE FOR OPTION AND/OR JOINT VENTURE. Plus a cool map on page 27.
Geoscience and Mineral Exploration Publications

Saskatchewan Exploration and Development Highlights
Attachments
Saskatchewan Exploration and Development Hightlights 2003

PDF file - http://www.ir.gov.sk.ca/adx/asp/adxGetMedia.asp?DocID=3445,3440,3385,2936,Documents&MediaID=6155&Filename=2003-SEDH_3Feb04.pdf
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by is300:
Uh oh the B-S`ometer is going off.. how would you know what percent are sales and buys. And if 90% truely are buys then who is selling? Simple it's called DILLUTION of the 800 BILLION A/S. good grief if you are going to blindly pump at least make some sense. You lurk here 24x7, you would think you would of learned something by now.


IS, that information is available by susbscription. It is posted daily on several different boards.


For a person who has only been on Allstocks for six days you have a lot of nerve judging me.

But for your information, I am not here 24/7, buy I am at my computer most of the day because I spend most of the day in my wheelchair, but thanks for your consideration of my personal business.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
So now both the UCAD and the CIM dividends reflect an o/s of approximately 1.6 trillion. Noah, do you think you could post Dr. D's "this is good news" theory as soon as he releases it? I can't wait to see that one!

Upside if you look about a third of the way down on this page, you will see I have already posted Dr D's latest. And he anticipated what we would see here today, and influx of MM bashers trying to shake the weak hands on this stock. And it is going on, on most of the boards.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sdrobert:
OFFICIAL ON OTCBB SITE:

UCAD ON 6 OCT @ SAME RATIO OF .00000962 http://tinyurl.com/5pzsx

"CIM" ON 16 OCT @ SAME RATIO: .0256 http://tinyurl.com/6z3c5


still nothing posted about GEMM under
ALL CMKX DIVIDENDS @ otcbb.com here:
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dividend.asp?sym_id=CMKX&sDateType=ex_dt
http://tinyurl.com/4gd65

what a f'ing joke wheres the pr on this one that is lame I think it is time to get out before it goes to .0001 oh I guess when we do get our "divies" it will be changed to dec of 2008 and for every share of cmkx we will get .000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 shares of ucad and half that for cim what a stupid joke


There is a solution to your dillema. Sell now and get out at .0003 and we won't have to listen to your whining anymore.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
noahltl wrote:

And he anticipated what we would see here today, and influx of MM bashers trying to shake the weak hands on this stock. And it is going on, on most of the boards.
-----------------------------------------
Spin, spin, spin. Will you ever admit to the realities as to CMKX, noahltl? How much farther does it have to go down?

sdrobert and probably many others have good reason to complain, since most are probably in CMKX as a result of all the pumping on all the boards. Hold, hold, hold. That's a certainty on this board.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 24, 2004).]
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
WALLACE
= = = = = = = =
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Bill1352 wrote:

"huge blocks sold in cmkx all the time that do not get into the volume totals each day."



= = = = = = =
Do you have an explanation ?
VAN

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 24, 2004).]
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
You should be able to figure it out!
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
The "buy to sell" ratios will not match if the shares are being "created" in the NSS scenario, and being brought into the market as buys.
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
I've noticed while searching in mineral claims that Casavant had "classified" all info. so it is unavailable for public view now even green lakes zinc deposit that CIM has is non viewable. What's up with that I wonder.
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
WALLACE
= = = = = = = =
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wallace#1:
[b]Bill1352 wrote:

"huge blocks sold in cmkx all the time that do not get into the volume totals each day."



= = = = = = =
Do you have an explanation ?
VAN

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 24, 2004).][/B][/QUOTE]

it's called D I L U T I O N
 


Posted by Esteban on :
 
A quick question for some of the wiser traders on this thread:
We have one record date(08-20-04) for our dividens, however, we have two payment dates for said dividends (9-24-04 and 10-06-04). Why the different payment dates and different percentages?
Thanks,
Steve
 
Posted by is300 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
The "buy to sell" ratios will not match if the shares are being "created" in the NSS scenario, and being brought into the market as buys.

There are no Naked shorting no MM would nss a .0003 stock. The ratios are off because the 800 Billion A/s is being diluted into the O/S. What do you think the 300 billion A/s is doing? Just sitting there catching a good tan? They were authorized by CMKX to further dilute the company. Pre-school traders are the only ones things "Oh yes it's the master PLAN!!!!". Where are the new Carolyn samples?.. of course it's already forgotten where is the OFFICIAL FROM CMKX PR on the original carolyn results size? of course they never released them. Where is the PR on share structure.. of course they want that hidden as 800 billion A/s in a PR would drop the stock to .0001. Lies and manipulation by managment and paid pumper/lackeys like sterling and el camino have perpetuated the scam.
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
WALLACE
I need help
The "Stockpatrol" response to the "great Debate" just called me a name(experienced touts and starry-eyed naifs) could you pick the one that fits me, Thanks
VAN
 
Posted by lionelbuff on :
 
Called at 4:45pm(EST)about UCAD shares concerning CMKX and distribution date was put off until 10/6. According to Ameritrade, was obtained directly from the company and not the dispository.

Noah, thanks so much for welcoming us aboard and appreciate your hundred of hours of dedication.

Wallace, sorry will not be going to York but there is a Ted Mauerer auction every two weeks in my area and sell over $200,000 of worth of Lionel and other merchandise. You might want to check this out. The website is http://www.mauerail.com

Jack
 


Posted by glassman on :
 


hot off the press...


2004-09-24 17:44:08


CMKM Diamonds Announces Dividend Stock Will Be Paid on Oct. 6, 2004


***

Business Editors LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--CMKX-- CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX) announced that the dividend of U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. stock will be paid on Oct. 6, 2004, rather than today. "The delay was because of the enormous amount of administrative work that needs to be done by the transfer agents for both companies in order to make that distribution," said Urban Casavant, the company's chief executive officer. "We do not anticipate any further delays in paying the dividend." The record date for the dividend remains unchanged. Rendall Williams, CEO of UCAD, stated, "Through the suggestion of management of CMKX and their corporate attorney, D. Roger Glenn, UCAD's management has agreed to issue additional shares for the round-up process for this distribution. UCAD has agreed to issue additional shares so all CMKX shareholders can take part in this distribution." Williams continued, "The relationship with CMKX shareholders is a welcome addition to our new family." Glenn said, "The company's accountants are working to complete the audit of the company's financial statements. When that has been accomplished, the company will be well on its way to becoming a reporting company again." Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995: The statements, other than the statements of historical facts, may be deemed to contain forward-looking statements with respect to events, the occurrence of which involves risks and uncertainties, including, without limitation, demand and competition for the company's products and services, the availability to the company of adequate financing to support its anticipated activities, the ability of the
 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Too slow.

[This message has been edited by WinsumLosesum (edited September 24, 2004).]
 


Posted by user095263 on :
 
ahhhhh! doji (insert lightbulb here)
happy that was cleared up =)
~BB
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
well If it never does anything great I wont sell Ill just keep complaining if it goes down to .0001 Ill sell then and break even. but I like to complain. so Ill keep complaining. if it goes for a run Ill be happy and say great things. but if it does bad Ill cry all they way. Ok Noah since you are so knowing when it comes to this stock explain this. Only the company through its decisions and actions can change the dividend ratio and distrubution (sp) date, since that is the case and urban cares so much for his investors why not let the people he cares for know why. He does not even have to be specific. he could not even tell us why,just tell us period, not force us all to call our brokers and/or check the otcbb to see that it is changing. If you were the CEO and you considered your investors family members what would you do?? There hasnt even been a pr that states exactly what the ratio is going to be, but if you call etrade, ameritrade or you look on the otcbb they all state the same thing. why cant they tell us anything?? what would be the reason to not tell important info to your investors. if it was great news there would be no reason. if there was something fishy going on or something not on the up and up going on there would be a reason not to say anything. how about something like this. "the divedend was scheduled on ..... date with a ratio of ....
however because of ..naked shorting problem or .....so many investors or ......high interest in the free share divy... there will be a slight delay or ....an extension and the distro has been changed to date....... wow that was soooo hard to do. wait I have a better idea. LETS GO TO THE RACES.

 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
ROGER SPRINGS THE "TRAP". YEAH!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
oops wow that was wierd came over as I was complaining. thank you roger I am glad at least someone is on the ball.



 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
see complaining does help sometimes.

 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
OH PLEASE STOP THAT "BIZARRE I FOUND THIS IN MY EMAIL" ITS BEEN POSTED A MILLION TIMES YOU ARE A LIAR!!!!! QUIT POSTING THAT EVEN THE BIGGEST BASHER WOULD NOT BE STUPID ENOUGH TO REPOST AN ELEGID EMAIL FROM MONTHS AGO AND SAY HE JUST GOT IT COME ON GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
OH YEAH i SAW THAT SAME "BIZARRE EMAIL POST" ON TWO OTHER BOARDS THE PAST 6 MONTHS. BASHERS AND PUMPERS BOTH HAVE VALID POINTS BUT THAT REPETITIVE POST IS RETARDED.
 
Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
OK
The PR was 100% legal R.Glenn, that is good news. As to the other deatils, guess we are still waiting.
VAN
PS: WALLACE please get back to me quick on where I fall into the "STOCKWATCH" catagory so I know how to "SPIN' my posts.

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 24, 2004).]
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
VAN...i forget how he said it worked but the point was investers bought & sold 10's of billions of share blocks at a time often. as for the post a bunch up...ameritrade as of 3pm eastern time had no word from the DTC and thats where they get the shares and are told how many shares are in their street name account and the split amount. I told the guy about the OTC BB post he looked there & and the nasdqa trader site I think he said it was and both said the 6th. he took that to mean no shares today
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
welcome lional...i live about 15 miles from the factory in new baltimore MI
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well ya know what...thats not new baltimore its across gratiot so its chesterfield township....wouldn't want to post false info here i'd have noah & wallace calling me names...just kidding....though it might get them agreeing about something...lol
 
Posted by will on :
 
?????????????????????????????????


quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
ROGER SPRINGS THE "TRAP". YEAH!!!!!!!!


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
?????????????????????????????????



Will, I was going to explain the trap, but I will defer to our resident Wall Street experts to explain the trap. I'm sure they can recognize what happened. Come on guys, "splain" the trap.

 


Posted by glassman on :
 
Noah, you oughta go into politics....LOL
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by noahltl:
quote:
ROGER SPRINGS THE "TRAP". YEAH!!!!!!!!

I don't get it either. Please explain.

 


Posted by finky4x2 on :
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CMKM Diamonds Announces Dividend Stock Will Be Paid on Oct. 6, 2004
9/24/2004 5:44:00 PM


LAS VEGAS, Sep 24, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX) announced that the dividend of U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. stock will be paid on Oct. 6, 2004, rather than today. "The delay was because of the enormous amount of administrative work that needs to be done by the transfer agents for both companies in order to make that distribution," said Urban Casavant, the company's chief executive officer. "We do not anticipate any further delays in paying the dividend." The record date for the dividend remains unchanged.

Rendall Williams, CEO of UCAD, stated, "Through the suggestion of management of CMKX and their corporate attorney, D. Roger Glenn, UCAD's management has agreed to issue additional shares for the round-up process for this distribution. UCAD has agreed to issue additional shares so all CMKX shareholders can take part in this distribution." Williams continued, "The relationship with CMKX shareholders is a welcome addition to our new family."

Glenn said, "The company's accountants are working to complete the audit of the company's financial statements. When that has been accomplished, the company will be well on its way to becoming a reporting company again."





 


Posted by finky4x2 on :
 
srry for repost, Glass beat me to it
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Noah, you oughta go into politics....LOL

Already been there glass

 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
http://www.sec.gov/rules/final/34-50103.htm

B. Short Sales in Threshold Securities — Rule 203(b)(3)
1. Threshold Securities
The Commission has decided to adopt, with certain modifications from what was proposed, additional requirements targeted at stocks that have a substantial amount of failures to deliver. As adopted, Rule 203(b)(3) requires any participant of a registered clearing agency ("participant")80 to take action on all failures to deliver that exist in such securities ten days after the normal settlement date, i.e., 13 consecutive settlement days.81 Specifically, the participant is required to close out the fail to deliver position by purchasing securities of like kind and quantity.

With slight modification from the proposal, a "threshold security" is defined in Rule 203(c)(6) as any equity security of an issuer that is registered under Section 12, or that is required to file reports pursuant to Section 15(d) of the Exchange Act82 where, for five consecutive settlement days: there are aggregate fails to deliver at a registered clearing agency of 10,000 shares or more per security; that the level of fails is equal to at least one-half of one percent of the issuer's total shares outstanding; and the security is included on a list published by an SRO. 83 We believe this threshold characterizes situations where the ratio of unfulfilled delivery obligations at the clearing agency at which trades are settled represents a significant number of shares relative to the company's total shares outstanding. We believe that such circumstances warrant action designed to address potential negative effects.84 This narrowly targeted threshold will not burden the vast majority of securities where there are not similar concerns regarding settlement.85 Our OEA analyzed recent data from NSCC on fails to deliver and calculated that approximately 3.9% of all exchange-listed and Nasdaq securities, and 4.0% of all securities, would meet this threshold.86

In order to be deemed a threshold security, and thus subject to the restrictions of Rule 203(b)(3), a security must exceed the specified fail level for a period of five consecutive settlement days. Similarly, in order to be removed from the list of threshold securities, a security must not exceed the specified level of fails for a period of five consecutive settlement days.87 This five-day requirement will address the potential situation where a security exceeds the fails level on one day, based on an aberrant fail to deliver that may not be indicative of the usual pattern of that particular security, and thus would prevent potential "flickering" of securities in and out of the list of threshold securities.88 Rule 203(b)(3) is intended to address potential abuses that may occur with large, extended fails to deliver.89 We believe that the five-day requirement will facilitate the identification of securities with extended fails.

As is currently the practice for Nasdaq securities that exceed the threshold designated in NASD Rule 11830, the pertinent SRO will be responsible for publishing a daily list of the threshold securities that are listed on their markets, or for which the SRO bears the primary surveillance responsibility.90 The SROs derive the information necessary to calculate the list of threshold securities from data on fails to deliver currently received from NSCC.91


 


Posted by HarryHar on :
 
so what's the trap?
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
NASD Notice to Members 04-54

Operative Date of Short Sale ACT Reporting Requirements for OTCBB and Other Non-
NASDAQ OTC Equity Securities Extended to September 24, 2004
http://www.nasdr.com/pdf-text/0454ntm.txt
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Noah,
Instead of posting the new rules and regulations, why don't you tie it all up for all of us and explain exactly what you're thinking?
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Noah,
Instead of posting the new rules and regulations, why don't you tie it all up for all of us and explain exactly what you're thinking?

I wanted to give Wallace a little time to come up with, and posted SEC to give a couple clues.

 


Posted by glassman on :
 
somebody said, (and i agree with them) that if there are so many NS shares in people's accounts, a WHOLE LOT of brokers are going to be in BIG trouble too....

because it's their responsibility to report the failure to deliver......

this was supposed to have been fixed by new software earlier this year(brokers checking in their accts for undelivered shares)

Scottrade won't let you buy CMKX tho, maybe thats the real reason???
 


Posted by will on :
 
Well, remembering back a few months there was an ammendment to rule 203, 81, 82?, 80 somethings. It made it more difficult for the MM's to NSS. Gave the rule more teeth. It was implemented on issuance, your link says, but wasn't enforced until now. I don't understand the 5/13 day deal, can't put it together with original rule 203 post, too much missing. However it appears whatever the "catch" is RG is going to test it.

quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
I wanted to give Wallace a little time to come up with, and posted SEC to give a couple clues.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Jack & wife,

Hope you are into CMKX at a really low pps. I was hoping to maybe meet you both in York.
I enjoy repairing the locos. That's what I keep trying to do on this thread, but it's a losing battle! LOL I do wish you luck with CMKX.
--------------------------------------------

Now, as to noahltl,
Glassman posted release (edited):
"Glenn said, "The company's accountants are working to complete the audit of the company's financial statements. When that has been accomplished, the company will be well on its way to becoming a reporting company again."
-------------------------------------------
How long do you think it takes to audit a company with no earnings (actually negative), very few physical assets, unproven claims (except for arbitrary values placed on them by controlling shareholders), probably many liabilities (but easily identified), and a negative shareholders' equity? Three plus months? NO WAY!!! They would probably take not more than a week or two at the most.

What Glenn said, is nothing more than he said in his first released statement re an audit of the company. SAME WORDS TOO!!!

What level of mismanagement cannot even do so little as to set a definitive payment date on dividends? Don't you know that specifying related dates is a common practice when paying dividends? I bet Glenn knows that if he had been with the SEC and if he has even a modicum of securities knowledge. Where was your supposed "know-it-all" Glenn when said dividends were authorized and announced?

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 24, 2004).]
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Trap, noahltl?
"I wanted to give Wallace a little time to come up with, and posted SEC to give a couple clues."
-------------------------------------------
If there is/was any generally large NSS, the only thing Glen/CMKX could do is litigate. Maybe they figure that is the only way they can get any real $$$$s, instead of passing from one hand to the other and back again.
They certainly do not seem to be getting anything from their so-called diamond explorations and drilling. They do seem, however, to have been disposing of claims that they previously used to arbitrarily value the company. They're part of the ones that pumpers have been attributing so much
"potential" to.

Tell me what the deal is now with SGGM and Casavant's niece. Suddenly she's not IR? More confusion? More diversion from CMKX? Purposeful????


[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 24, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 

For the past several weeks, hundreds of people on the several different boards that I visit were reporting having received their UCAD dividends. Even a few here have reported such. How could that be when the TA announces they haven't even sent them out yet. The really amazing thing was that some people reported actually having sold their UCAD dividend shares. Now that can't be can it? Some might answer that a few brokerages were just jumping the gun on their accounting, and the sales were accidental. But to let shares be sold when they were restricted????? That is not going to happen that many times.

A couple of days ago, someone here asked how the MM's could short restricted shares. They can't. So the theory is that they substituted naked short shares of UCAD for the restricted ones. The brokerages put them in various investors accounts and they showed up when many went looking. They could be sold, because they were only naked shares, not restricted shares.

The MM's were shoving in naked shorts all day today in many people's accounts so that they would be diluted in the mix with all of the real dividend shares.

Buy guess what, no legit shares showed up today. Instead Roger announces that they will be put in our accounts on Oct 6. THE GOTCHA MOMENT Now it is easy to catch the naked shorters. They have placed all of these additionally shorted UCAD shares into accounts to cover, and now each placement can be traced directly to the Naked Shorter.

Coincidence that this occurs on the effective date of the SEC regs on naked shorting? Coincidence that CMKX will place the divies on the 12th day from now, the day before the 13th day for settlement?

I think this was a brilliant head fake by Roger to get the naked shorts to tip their own hands and show us what they got.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Noah, I have to tell you, I laughed for a full minute straight when I read your last post. Now be honest here, do you really believe this latest theory? Come on, you cant, can you? Still laughing out loud!
 
Posted by will on :
 
I ain't buying it. I still do not fully understanding how the changes to rule 203 translate to the current CMKX situation. Explain that to me like I'm a six year old, and then maybe I can see how it applies to the UCAD covers and all.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Noah, I have to tell you, I laughed for a full minute straight when I read your last post. Now be honest here, do you really believe this latest theory? Come on, you cant, can you? Still laughing out loud!


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Geezzz, noahltl, have you gone over the edge?
LMAO
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
If you can't bash the theory, bash the person. I know.
 
Posted by tigertony on :
 
And now a commercial break befor we return you to another episode of

AS FOR DIAMONDS WE YEARN
we have it all facts,fiction,deception ,denial,proven,unproven,fantasy ,reality,personal attacks,age attacks,name calling,love,hatred,joy,dispair
DREAMS OR BROKEN DREAMS
STAY TUNED AS WE ALL WAIT FOR THE PERSON THAT KNOWS THE TRUTH GOD. NO NOT GOD, MR. DIAMOND MAN HIMSELF THE RINGMASTER CASAVANT

HAVE a laugh keep smiling and GOOD LUCK
 


Posted by will on :
 
noah, is that your explanation of "springing the trap" ? If it is, I'm not laughing, just trying to understand it. Can you explain it a little better, I'm kind of slow.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Just thought you might be unwell! Where did you get that theory from? Still LMAO!!

Are you now saying that Oct 6 is the final day of reckoning? Is that now cut in stone?

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 24, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
Hold on a minute, he'll explain it so it makes sesnse.

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Just thought you might be unwell! Where did you get that theory from? Still LMAO!!


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Noah, I'm not bashing you at all. I'm just in disbelief over this theory and can't believe that someone would actually buy into it. At best, I'm assuming you're taking it with a grain of salt, right?
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
noah, is that your explanation of "springing the trap" ? If it is, I'm not laughing, just trying to understand it. Can you explain it a little better, I'm kind of slow.

The MM's loaded up accounts with naked shares today. Today the regs go into effect. They now have 13 days to make good on those shares. The MMs thought they didn't have to deal with these naked shares for a year. Under the regs, their nakedness now being very obvious, are going to have to cover them all by Oct 7 (depending on whether 13 days or 13 trading days)and the price of UCAD is going to skyrocket between now and then. (Note to self: BUY UCAD monday morning)


 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 

quote:
Originally posted by tigertony:
And now a commercial break befor we return you to another episode of

AS FOR DIAMONDS WE YEARN
we have it all facts,fiction,deception ,denial,proven,unproven,fantasy ,reality,personal attacks,age attacks,name calling,love,hatred,joy,dispair
DREAMS OR BROKEN DREAMS
STAY TUNED AS WE ALL WAIT FOR THE PERSON THAT KNOWS THE TRUTH GOD. NO NOT GOD, MR. DIAMOND MAN HIMSELF THE RINGMASTER CASAVANT

HAVE a laugh keep smiling and GOOD LUCK


The stock manipulator Casavant!
 


Posted by will on :
 
No UCAD shares in my account. I still ain't buying it.
 
Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
UCAD dropped like a stone around 3:30 today. What's up with that?
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Noah,
I couldn't agree with you more about the length of time it takes to do an audit. I know for a FACT that a week is long enough. NOT 3 MONTHS... that's a bunch of BS.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
UCAD dropped like a stone around 3:30 today. What's up with that?


Probably disgruntled shareholders selling when the dividends weren't posted.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
So, noahltl, are you saying that Glenn has transferred his main attentions to UCAD? What about CMKX?

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 24, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
Closed @ $4.50, down 10%, down approx 13.6% over the last two days.

quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
UCAD dropped like a stone around 3:30 today. What's up with that?


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
No UCAD shares in my account. I still ain't buying it.


It appears that the big brokerages like Ameritrade did not post them. Hmmmm wasn't JEFF their primary MM? It appears from people who stated they had their shares were in smaller brokerages and bank brokers.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
So, noahltl, are you saying that Glenn has transferred his main attentions to UCAD? What about CMKX?

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 24, 2004).]


What benefits UCAD benefits CMKX

 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
tradingpennys wrote:

Noah,
I couldn't agree with you more about the length of time it takes to do an audit. I know for a FACT that a week is long enough. NOT 3 MONTHS... that's a bunch of BS.
------------------------------------------
Tina, now I resent that!!! I thought that's what I posted. LOL Just kidding! Gives noahltl credit where not due! LOL
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
OK, everybody's ganging up too fast for me to answer. How about this, you all poke real holes in the theory. Not just laughing. Or, explain how millions of shares of UCAD that were never issued by the TA ended up in people's accounts all over the world, and were even being sold off. If you have a better answer, I'll go with you.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
tradingpennys wrote:

Noah,
I couldn't agree with you more about the length of time it takes to do an audit. I know for a FACT that a week is long enough. NOT 3 MONTHS... that's a bunch of BS.


I was just going to ask if we looked anything alike. LOL


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
noahltl, so sorry about ganging up on you! Not intentionally.

Can you answer my previous question? Is Oct 6th (or 7th) the final day of reckoning now?
Can we take your word for that?
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Who said the audit of the company financials had taken 3 months?
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
This maybe the best theory of all.

From another board
Lets try and put a few of the recent pieces together.
Retiring shares +++
Roger Glen comes on board ++
Will be fully reporting again ++
Switch transfer agents after audit?
New transfer agent reports high OS---
Back to old transfer agent?
News of Prepaid visa?
Lots of PR's from many other companies buying %+++
Raised A/S to Trillion plus-------
Dividend will be paid to all CMKX shareholders+++

What this tells me is that they are trying to confuse the heck out of everyone. I believe the new transfer agent was purposly told that number to make all believe the O/S was high and they had no intention on really switching transfer agents. And i believe the A/S was raised to give the illusion of dilution. I believe everything is happening for a reason and we will be more then happy in the long run. The best way to keep people from screwing up your plans is to throw them a curve every once in a while. They are just letting us all know everything is ok by letting us know the divys will be there. Well i'm probably babbling now so i'll leave you with that.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
noahltl wrote:

"I was just going to ask if we looked anything alike. LOL"
-------------------------------------------
I sure as hell hope not! If I looked that bad I would get plastic surgery. LOL Just kidding, noahltl.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
noahltl, so sorry about ganging up on you! Not intentionally.

Can you answer my previous question? Is Oct 6th (or 7th) the final day of reckoning now?
Can we take your word for that?



I think you know that this is a little too complicated to set a final day of reckoning. This story has a lot of chapters that haven't been published yet. I think you would rather have a date at which you could say see Noah was wrong. Nan a nan a nana. So, ain't falling for that one Wallace. Here's a thought, why don't you take a deep breath and watch how a pro like Roger plays this.


 


Posted by will on :
 
My God, man, these people will tell themselves anything to avoid the truth. It's better if we don't know, keep em guessing, throw them curves as to not interrupt the "master plan". Stop yourself, please!
Lie to me, tell me you love me, and I'll act confused about all your other male visitors, love. STOP IT!

quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
This maybe the best theory of all.

From another board
Lets try and put a few of the recent pieces together.
Retiring shares +++
Roger Glen comes on board ++
Will be fully reporting again ++
Switch transfer agents after audit?
New transfer agent reports high OS---
Back to old transfer agent?
News of Prepaid visa?
Lots of PR's from many other companies buying %+++
Raised A/S to Trillion plus-------
Dividend will be paid to all CMKX shareholders+++

What this tells me is that they are trying to confuse the heck out of everyone. I believe the new transfer agent was purposly told that number to make all believe the O/S was high and they had no intention on really switching transfer agents. And i believe the A/S was raised to give the illusion of dilution. I believe everything is happening for a reason and we will be more then happy in the long run. The best way to keep people from screwing up your plans is to throw them a curve every once in a while. They are just letting us all know everything is ok by letting us know the divys will be there. Well i'm probably babbling now so i'll leave you with that.


[This message has been edited by will (edited September 24, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Wallace, sorry, just a figure of speech, not intended to be insenstitve. Didn't notice until it was too late

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 24, 2004).]
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
No offense taken, noahltl. As a matter of fact, I didn't even read it that way. Assumed you wouldn't make fun of any handicap.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Why don't you two get a room.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Will,

dwman reposted (edited):
What this tells me is that they are trying to confuse the heck out of everyone.
------------------------------------------

At least this part may not be far from the truth.

Will wrote:

Why don't you two get a room.
--------------------------------------------
Very funny, will! LOL

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 24, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Will,

dwman reposted (edited):
What this tells me is that they are trying to confuse the heck out of everyone.



You can't inform the shareholders without informing the MM's and the competition.


 


Posted by will on :
 
That might be. To admit you're ok with being confused, and even think it's a good thing is unbelievable. Most of these wild theorist believe in some rediculous premise, but to say it's a good thing to be purposely confused by the company is a little too much for me. Most of the longs here believe they made an educated investment, they list, the amount of acres claimed, the potential for diamonds, RG, NSS theory, but to make an investment because being confuused is good, sorry, can't buy into that.
Back to, "he's dead Jim, he's dead.
Oh! That's ok, he only dead, he'll be ok. Dead is a good thing.

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Will,

dwman reposted (edited):
What this tells me is that they are trying to confuse the heck out of everyone.



 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
I give up............................for tonight.
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Well what this tell's me is D.R.G. could be floating like a butterfly and just might be getting ready to sting like a bee (rumble young man rumble).If this is just a game U.C. is playing it's either going to end up good,bad, or ugly.But so far it has been a game.From "Don't believe it unless it's in a pr" to "You should see what's on my desk".So I'm thinking planed.Didn't say master planed.But planed.Really we are where we were but basically with a 12 day furlough.Court adjourned.

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited September 24, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
Sorry, noah, I don't get it, and don't buy into it.
I know you did not buy because of the NSS, but now I'm sure the theorist will move the "squeeze of the century", from 8/20 to 9/24, from 9/24 to 10/6. Now I would say 10/6, unless changed, is the real "squeeze of the century", checkmate date.

 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Why is it that the theory of Urban selling 800 billion/1.6 trillion shares to line his own pocket so hard to accept? Then he pulls a few maneuvers to make things look good, and pays Mr. Glenn a handsome sum to legalize everything. This is a very simple theory, it ties everything together, and it fits Urbans profile. Why is this so hard to believe?
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
That might be. To admit you're ok with being confused, and even think it's a good thing is unbelievable. Most of these wild theorist believe in some rediculous premise, but to say it's a good thing to be purposely confused by the company is a little too much for me. Most of the longs here believe they made an educated investment, they list, the amount of acres claimed, the potential for diamonds, RG, NSS theory, but to make an investment because being confuused is good, sorry, can't buy into that.
Back to, "he's dead Jim, he's dead.
Oh! That's ok, he only dead, he'll be ok. Dead is a good thing.


There is a difference in being uninformed and confused. I own some stock in Northfield Laboratories who is finishing up on testing of a blood substitute. I don't see their tests results yet. I don't know what their attorney is doing with the FDA. When they dumped a bunch of shares in the market, I didn't moan and groan, because I knew it would be ok. Turns out they bought a bunch of manufacturing equipment so they could be ready on approval. I didn't run around questioning them with other shareholders. I didn't scream for a PR. I just waited to see why they did it. And when they sold a bunch more shares, the PPS dropped 8.00. But I didn't sell. And I won't because I trust the company, after doing my DD.

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 24, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
It's not difficult to believe at all. You could expand it further and make it just as juicy as the Sterlings, Dr D's do with the positive spin. (Notice I took Zen off the list). Now what if, a guy had a company, issued a trillion shares, used the cash from the shares sold for his own personal gain. Had control of another company, through sweetheart deals to the other company he controlled, he sihpons off the assets, (valuable claims), to that company leaving the original trillion share company worthless. One day he says, well folks, we tried hard, it didn't work, BK, padlocks. game, set, match, check, checkmate, FINISHED, thank you for your support.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Why is it that the theory of Urban selling 800 billion/1.6 trillion shares to line his own pocket so hard to accept? Then he pulls a few maneuvers to make things look good, and pays Mr. Glenn a handsome sum to legalize everything. This is a very simple theory, it ties everything together, and it fits Urbans profile. Why is this so hard to believe?


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by will:
quote:
It's not difficult to believe at all. You could expand it further and make it just as juicy as the Sterlings, Dr D's do with the positive spin.

But that's just the point, there's nothing to expand upon. It's clean, it's simple, and it fits. The problem is that people don't want to hear it, thats why all of these wild theories are spun and latched on to.
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
I mean Will...Upside...longer shots than CMKX has come through before.If you follow horseracing, a 50:1 screws up your exacta sometimes.I mean DA Bears beat the Packers just last week after coach Smith called his shot.By the way,Upman who ya like with G.B. & the other "horse" team this week?Two good Q.B.'s.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Why is it that the theory of Urban selling 800 billion/1.6 trillion shares to line his own pocket so hard to accept? Then he pulls a few maneuvers to make things look good, and pays Mr. Glenn a handsome sum to legalize everything. This is a very simple theory, it ties everything together, and it fits Urbans profile. Why is this so hard to believe?


Up, it's hard to believe because there is no evidence of it. Can you produce any? I'll be happy to look at it and reasses my opion. I think the OS is "0". Why is that hard for you to accept. Buying back all the naked shorts at .0001 after selling shares for .05 to .000?. That better fits what Urban is best known for. He is one of the most recognized men in the stock trading world right now. If he has pulled anything, there is no place he can hide. I can guarantee you that the last place a former prison guard wants to go is prison.

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 24, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
Then you can thank God you haven't invested $10,000, $20,000, $30,000 +, in this little venture. Your theory is closer to being right, reasonable, and much more acceptable then the ones the big investors belive in. What is unbievable is that everytime one of their predictions for this, that, or the thing happening comes and goes without "it" ocurring, they move the date, or come up with a new theory. There have been so many promises, predictions, happenings that were suppose to happen and didn't, and they are conveniently forgotten, burried, and never talked about again.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by will:
But that's just the point, there's nothing to expand upon. It's clean, it's simple, and it fits. The problem is that people don't want to hear it, thats why all of these wild theories are spun and latched on to.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by noahltl:
quote:
Up, it's hard to believe because there is no evidence of it. Can you produce any? I'll be happy to look at it and reasses my opion. I think the OS is "0". Why is that hard for you to accept. Buying back all the naked shorts at .0001 after selling shares for .05 to .000?. That better fits what Urban is best known for. He is one of the most recognized men in the stock trading world right now. If he has pulled anything, there is no place he can hide. I can guarantee you that the last place a former prison guard wants to go is prison.

No, there is no evidence of it nor is there evidence of a naked short other than rumor and comments by Melvin. It fits a pattern though. Re-read the two lawsuits Urban was involved in a few years back. There were allegations in both cases of stock manipulation on both Urbans and his partners part. Is it easier to believe that this particular leopard has changed his spots or could history be repeating itself? I'm sorry, but to believe that a stock with 800 billion to 1.6 trillion shares issued has a float of 0 is ridiculous. There is no need to buy back any shares or gain a controlling interest. Who's going to buy up a majority interest with that many outstanding? My belief is that the float is darn near 100% of the outstanding. If he has in fact been lining his pocket through share dumping all along, he's a very rich man, why would he care if he loses his company? Speaking of being a rich man, look at his lifestyle. Never been with a solid money making company his whole life (as far as I know) but all of a sudden, he can afford funny cars, trucks, bikes, lavish mobile homes, etc. Come on, look at what's staring you in the face. At least think about it.

Highwaychild, Indy's gonna win and probably win big and I'm gonna hate every minute of it.

 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by noahltl:
No, there is no evidence of it nor is there evidence of a naked short other than rumor and comments by Melvin. It fits a pattern though. Re-read the two lawsuits Urban was involved in a few years back. There were allegations in both cases of stock manipulation on both Urbans and his partners part. Is it easier to believe that this particular leopard has changed his spots or could history be repeating itself? I'm sorry, but to believe that a stock with 800 billion to 1.6 trillion shares issued has a float of 0 is ridiculous. There is no need to buy back any shares or gain a controlling interest. Who's going to buy up a majority interest with that many outstanding? My belief is that the float is darn near 100% of the outstanding. If he has in fact been lining his pocket through share dumping all along, he's a very rich man, why would he care if he loses his company? Speaking of being a rich man, look at his lifestyle. Never been with a solid money making company his whole life (as far as I know) but all of a sudden, he can afford funny cars, trucks, bikes, lavish mobile homes, etc. Come on, look at what's staring you in the face. At least think about it.

Highwaychild, Indy's gonna win and probably win big and I'm gonna hate every minute of it.


Once again UP, where are you getting that OS from. The only place it has been put out from is the OTC BB, whose information was proven wrong today. And I haven't seen anything that says Urban was found chargeable in those cases. I've been sued a bunch of times as a police officer, and a couple as a business man. But I was never found guilty of anything because I didn't do anything wrong.

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 25, 2004).]
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
Noah, UC is no where near the most visible person in the stock world..LOL

that's Martha Stewart and Kenneth Lay...LOL


why would he go to jail???

he hasn't done anything illegal...

he just sells stock..it's NOT illeagal...

there may be some things illegal going on, but they are mostly just the pumpers and the liars that are committting fraud....

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Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Noah, UC is no where near the most visible person in the stock world..LOL

that's Martha Stewart and Kenneth Lay...LOL


why would he go to jail???

he hasn't done anything illegal...

he just sells stock..it's NOT illeagal...

there may be some things illegal going on, but they are mostly just the pumpers and the liars that are committting fraud....

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But we know where they are.

 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Noah, UC is no where near the most visible person in the stock world..LOL

that's Martha Stewart and Kenneth Lay...LOL


why would he go to jail???

he hasn't done anything illegal...

he just sells stock..it's NOT illeagal...

there may be some things illegal going on, but they are mostly just the pumpers and the liars that are committting fraud....

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Stock fraud is a criminal offense if he committed it.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Noahltl:
quote:
Once again UP, where are you getting that OS from. The only place it has been put out from is the OTC BB, whose information was proven wrong today.

I'm using the known share distribution amount and the reported dividend payout percentages. Let's assume it's only 400 billion, would you agree it's at least that? It still has no effect on what I posted.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Highwaychild, Indy's gonna win and probably win big and I'm gonna hate every minute of it.


GO COLTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Noahltl:
quote:
GO COLTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Noah, I love bantering back and forth with you about CMKX but that one hurt.

 


Posted by glassman on :
 
Noah, they are selling hundreds of billions of shares of CMKX stock...it's right on the doggone charts man....


the NSS thing is PLAUSIBLE DENIAL, come on...

as far as the UCAD shares everybody is selling? that don't make NO sense dude, the volume is 19K today.....just the same as the 20 day MA and the 60day moving average...

isn't it just possible that there are dozens of people that are collaborating on the lies? could that possibly be prosecutable under RICOH?

ten people in different states all telling the same fake stories???
you are the cop, right?

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Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
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Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by Noahltl:
I'm using the known share distribution amount and the reported dividend payout percentages. Let's assume it's only 400 billion, would you agree it's at least that? It still has no effect on what I posted.


I can't agree on any OS UP, because the distribution amount and divy payout are now suspect. They have no credibity after todays actions and PR. It's back to square one on the OS. Nobody knows anything now. I can agree that there is a substantial number of shareholders, but I don't know if they are legitimate shares or not. No one can.


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:

Stock fraud is a criminal offense if he committed it.


what fraud did he commit? NONE! he just sells shares, it's the people POSTING all the lies that are doing the dirt...


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by Noahltl:
Noah, I love bantering back and forth with you about CMKX but that one hurt.


What can I say UP, I live near Indy.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Noahltl:
quote:
What can I say UP, I live near Indy.

That's right, I forgot about that. I guess it's justified then. Still hurts though.

 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Noah, they are selling hundreds of billions of shares of CMKX stock...it's right on the doggone charts man....


the NSS thing is PLAUSIBLE DENIAL, come on...

as far as the UCAD shares everybody is selling? that don't make NO sense dude, the volume is 19K today.....just the same as the 20 day MA and the 60day moving average...

isn't it just possible that there are dozens of people that are collaborating on the lies? could that possibly be prosecutable under RICOH?

ten people in different states all telling the same fake stories???
you are the cop, right?

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How do know that there are no NSS sales / buys? Just saying it isn't plausible doesn't prove anything. If there weren't any naked shorting going on, why did the SEC find it necessary to issue new regs? Come on, you know it's been a problem, and there wasn't a more likely target for it a few months ago.


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
i didn't say it's not going on of course SOME is going on but be real dude....
a trillion?????
no way

maybe a bilion or as much as 100billion... but my GUESS is they got covered BEFORE the "daimond find"
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
A trillion shares naked shorted? At a generous 3 billion a day, that's almost a year and a half worth of trading days with nothing but short sales going through. Doesn't seem possible to me unless this has been building up for a very long time.
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
tradingpennys wrote:

Noah,
I couldn't agree with you more about the length of time it takes to do an audit. I know for a FACT that a week is long enough. NOT 3 MONTHS... that's a bunch of BS.



OOOooopppsss!! Holy Socks! I must've had noah on my mind... LOL. Sorry Wallace, will you forgive me? T


 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Well said Upside!! Urban does have the experience and track record. I wish I would have found those court records before I invested in this stock. I would NOT have bought in.
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Why is it that the theory of Urban selling 800 billion/1.6 trillion shares to line his own pocket so hard to accept? Then he pulls a few maneuvers to make things look good, and pays Mr. Glenn a handsome sum to legalize everything. This is a very simple theory, it ties everything together, and it fits Urbans profile. Why is this so hard to believe?


 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Funny you should mention having control of another company.... perfect senario.
quote:
Originally posted by will:
It's not difficult to believe at all. You could expand it further and make it just as juicy as the Sterlings, Dr D's do with the positive spin. (Notice I took Zen off the list). Now what if, a guy had a company, issued a trillion shares, used the cash from the shares sold for his own personal gain. Had control of another company, through sweetheart deals to the other company he controlled, he sihpons off the assets, (valuable claims), to that company leaving the original trillion share company worthless. One day he says, well folks, we tried hard, it didn't work, BK, padlocks. game, set, match, check, checkmate, FINISHED, thank you for your support.



 


Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
Noahltl-----I think you are right on the money my old son. You're DD and your most impressive and informative posts have always been a pleasure to read since they have always been extremely informative. I admire your dogged sleuthing and deductions. Your detractors laugh and ridicule but cannot disprove or discedit any of your HO's which makes them, in my HO, utterly and completely FOS. Up, down or steady, your posts are straight up and a truly good read. Cheers mate.

4,000,000 long and strong
will soon be singing a joyful song.


 


Posted by JOED5500 on :
 
CMKX Pays +stk Per Share Record Date 08/31/2004
via CDS

September 25, 2004

Company: CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Common Stock Symbol: CMKX Amount: +stk Record Date: 08/31/2004 Payment Date: 10/18/2004

This information can be viewed at http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/dailylist/history/2004/Dividends/di09242004.stm


Tel: (203) 375-9609 NASDAQ Market Data Integrity

------------------
Ciao! Good Luck!!
 


Posted by will on :
 
CMKX Pays +stk Per Share Record Date 08/31/2004
via CDS

September 25, 2004

Company: CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Common Stock Symbol: CMKX Amount: +stk Record Date: 08/31/2004 Payment Date: 10/18/2004

This information can be viewed at http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/dailylist/history/2004/Dividends/di09242004.stm]http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/dailylist/history/2004/Dividends/di09242004.stm


Tel: (203) 375-9609 NASDAQ Market Data Integrity


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Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
CMKX Pays +stk Per Share Record Date 08/31/2004
via CDS

September 25, 2004

Company: CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Common Stock Symbol: CMKX Amount: +stk Record Date: 08/31/2004 Payment Date: 10/18/2004

This information can be viewed at http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/dailylist/history/2004/Dividends/di09242004.stm]http://www.nasdaqtrader .com/dailylist/history/2004/Dividends/di09242004.stm]http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/dailylist/history/2004/Dividends/di09242004.stm


Tel: (203) 375-9609 NASDAQ Market Data Integrity

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Hello Will, I can't seem to find that info, can you tell exactly where to go on the site please? thanks, M

 


Posted by will on :
 
Sorry, Justthis1nce, I can't get you a clean URL to the First Alert News, or the referenced URL. For some reason it's not letting me get to it. Was sent to me in an email from First Alert News, but isn't listed in First Alert News, under CMKX. Can't help ya, man. I have no idea what it means either.

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Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Sorry, Justthis1nce, I can't get you a clean URL to the First Alert News, or the referenced URL. For some reason it's not letting me get to it. Was sent to me in an email from First Alert News, but isn't listed in First Alert News, under CMKX. Can't help ya, man. I have no idea what it means either

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Appreciate your efforts Will, cheers. M


 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
Noah my friend

Dwman as well

How are you boys doing? A lot of happenings in the past two weeks with our stock!!

This is GOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDD!

Did I mention I missed you guys!

3.8 Million STRONG! GO CMKX!

-Byrd-
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
SEEN A LOT OF COMMENT ON THIS POST
= = = = = = = = = =
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:

For the past several weeks, hundreds of people on the several different boards that I visit were reporting having received their UCAD dividends. Even a few here have reported such. How could that be when the TA announces they haven't even sent them out yet. The really amazing thing was that some people reported actually having sold their UCAD dividend shares. Now that can't be can it? Some might answer that a few brokerages were just jumping the gun on their accounting, and the sales were accidental. But to let shares be sold when they were restricted????? That is not going to happen that many times.

A couple of days ago, someone here asked how the MM's could short restricted shares. They can't. So the theory is that they substituted naked short shares of UCAD for the restricted ones. The brokerages put them in various investors accounts and they showed up when many went looking. They could be sold, because they were only naked shares, not restricted shares.

The MM's were shoving in naked shorts all day today in many people's accounts so that they would be diluted in the mix with all of the real dividend shares.

Buy guess what, no legit shares showed up today. Instead Roger announces that they will be put in our accounts on Oct 6. THE GOTCHA MOMENT Now it is easy to catch the naked shorters. They have placed all of these additionally shorted UCAD shares into accounts to cover, and now each placement can be traced directly to the Naked Shorter.

Coincidence that this occurs on the effective date of the SEC regs on naked shorting? Coincidence that CMKX will place the divies on the 12th day from now, the day before the 13th day for settlement?

I think this was a brilliant head fake by Roger to get the naked shorts to tip their own hands and show us what they got.



= = = = = = = = = =
What was said here in a round-A-bout way stem from a fact that everyone seems to have overlooked.
Dividends are paid ONLY on O/S,this does not include retired,restricted(why would a company write a check to everyone in the world?;(This would be like the government collecting taxes and giving it to everyone who doesn't pay taxes! WHOOPS I guess they do that). IF there are naked shorts any difference in share value (to include dividends or difference in share price at sale) come from the MM. There goal is to make the difference a negative.
The game being played here is to expose the opposition R.Glenn vs MM's
MO
VAN
PS
The report of people having received & sold UCAD dividend might be a planted rumor ?

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Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
BYRD...is that really you...LOL
Good to see ya back man.
 
Posted by will on :
 
BYRD, I'm not even going to ask if you're going to behave this time around. I already know the answer. Good luck, see if you can last a week this time.
 
Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
Highwaychild...

Yes, it's me... lol... New and Improved, with better manners.

It is good to 'see' you too


 


Posted by will on :
 
OK is this:

CMKX Pays +stk Per Share Record Date 08/31/2004
via CDS
September 25, 2004

Company: CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Common Stock Symbol: CMKX Amount: +stk Record Date: 08/31/2004 Payment Date: 10/18/2004

Meaning the .000009... div is paid 10/6 and the additional to bring it to .0000155 paid 10/18? Guessing at the 0's, but y'all get my meaning.
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
WILL
Had some trouble following your question, but guess you think the math indicates higher shares of O/S
This means that the company will need to explain the dilution.
VAN

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Posted by will on :
 
No, Van, I'm saying the .00009.. dividend will be paid 10/6, and the round up, or additional dividend will be paid 10/18. They adjusted the UCAD dividend, but the record date of that was 8/20. Maybe today's news has to do with the CIM dividend??? Most confusing crap these people put out.
Maybe it will help if you explain what today's news means:

CMKX Pays +stk Per Share Record Date 08/31/2004
via CDS
September 25, 2004

Company: CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Common Stock Symbol: CMKX Amount: +stk Record Date: 08/31/2004 Payment Date: 10/18/2004

quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
WILL
Had some trouble following your question, but guess you think the math indicates higher shares of O/S
This means that the company will need to explain the dilution.
VAN

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Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
WILL
Hate to be so simplistic, but I think it is a stall. Don't know why. There are lots of possibilities Pos/Neg. Plus the SEC rules change may complicate.
VAN
 
Posted by will on :
 
I don't even know what dividend it is referring to now. Says the one with the record date of 8/31, thought that was the CIM dividend.
quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
WILL
Hate to be so simplistic, but I think it is a stall. Don't know why. There are lots of possibilities Pos/Neg. Plus the SEC rules change may complicate.
VAN


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
nothing would please me more than to see the SEC rules work for a change...

i know you guys don't like what i say here much, but i have seen plenty of transparent co's with excellent fundamentals get thrashed...

short-selling is the EZst explanation, it may be wrong, but.....


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Good afternoon, all.

Tina,
Easily forgiven! No big deal. LMAO

JBCak,
????????? Allstocks must really be forgiving. Do you think you can be civil, polite and behave yourself now?

noahltl,
How in hell can you even suggest there are no outstanding shares of CMKX? Did I misunderstand your post?


 


Posted by HarryHar on :
 
Can you guys explain to me why the title of the PR says paid via CDS? I'm not sure I understand that.

Do you guys not believe it possible that the A/S was raised in order to sell shares back to MM's that were naked shorting so that those MM's could cover the nakeds, and then Urban uses the proceeds from selling the "cover" shares to buy back and retire shares to eventually bring the O/S back down?
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
Wally wrote:

"Allstocks must really be forgiving. Do you think you can be civil, polite and behave yourself now?"

I can try... If that doesn't work, I had a teacher in second grade put duck tape over my friends mouth, while I got duct taped to a chair... (Catholic school for ya)... lol...

=============================================

CMKX has me racing against the clock... I need more shares! Hmmmmm... I can sell a liver, I can get by on one (Homer Simpson)...lol...

Anyone have any dividends magically show up in your accounts?

I have Choicetrade and they haven't posted anything to my account as of today... I was just curious, thats all

-John-


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Good afternoon, all.

Tina,
Easily forgiven! No big deal. LMAO

JBCak,
????????? Allstocks must really be forgiving. Do you think you can be civil, polite and behave yourself now?

noahltl,
How in hell can you even suggest there are no outstanding shares of CMKX? Did I misunderstand your post?



In hell, I won't suggest it. What I was saying is that it is as easy for me to say there is zero OS, as it is to say there is 800 billion or 1.2 trillion, because the OTC BB, that created those numbers, didn't even have the right date, so how can we assume anything else is fact.


 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
AGAIN

CMKX has REPEATEDLY said that shareholders and investors need to listen to OFFICIAL COMPANY Press Releases...

Any OTHER information (that INCLUDES otcbb DOT COM YES DOT COM.... AGAIN DOT COM, COMMERCIAL SITE... Are they biased? Who reaps the profits of this website?...) is not official information and should not be listened to. Again I trust CMKX and will listen to ONLY THEM... Not OTCBB. com

And what Noah is trying to say is that, in theory, since NO ONE EXCEPT CMKX Diamonds knows the true O/S count, it is possible for Roger Glenn to have backed financing to buyback a LARGE amount of the O/S... If there was a true NSS problem, buyback a large percentage of the shares would help to 'prove' Rogers case that infact a NSS problem is prevelant.

What Noah is trying to say, I think anyways, is that no one knows how many shares, and I for one DO NOT BELEIVE IT TO BE 800 BILLION O/S , MAYBE A/S but that doesn't mean squat...

The possibility of Noah being right is no more or LESS than Wallace being correct or wrong.

Since we DO NOT KNOW THE SHARE COUNT, ANY ONE OF US CAN BE RIGHT, OR WE ALL CAN BE WRONG...

Untilt here is proof of the share count, no one is less or more right... NO ONE HERE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITHIN THE COMPANY... And that is the way it should be

-John-
 


Posted by will on :
 
"Untilt here is proof of the share count, no one is less or more right... NO ONE HERE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITHIN THE COMPANY... And that is the way it should be"

That begs the question: Why should it be that way?
Wouldn't you feel much better knowing the share structure. The company has had months to publish it. An audit was completed before the T/A fiasco. Why do you feel comfortable not knowing, and don't say because you trust these people to have your best interest at heart, because let me tell you, they DON'T !
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
"Untilt here is proof of the share count, no one is less or more right... NO ONE HERE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITHIN THE COMPANY... And that is the way it should be"

That begs the question: Why should it be that way?
Wouldn't you feel much better knowing the share structure. The company has had months to publish it. An audit was completed before the T/A fiasco. Why do you feel comfortable not knowing, and don't say because you trust these people to have your best interest at heart, because let me tell you, they DON'T !



Will let me repost the answer to that from last night.


There is a difference in being uninformed and confused. I own some stock in Northfield Laboratories who is finishing up on testing of a blood substitute. I don't see their tests results yet. I don't know what their attorney is doing with the FDA. When they dumped a bunch of shares in the market, I didn't moan and groan, because I knew it would be ok. Turns out they bought a bunch of manufacturing equipment so they could be ready on approval. I didn't run around questioning them with other shareholders. I didn't scream for a PR. I just waited to see why they did it. And when they sold a bunch more shares, the PPS dropped 8.00. But I didn't sell. And I won't because I trust the company, after doing my DD. And I have owned that stock longer than CMKX.


 


Posted by will on :
 
So, it comes down to trust? Looks like your Northern Labs is a bit more stable, and better managed than CMKX. You may have reason to hang in there with them, but CMKX has shown that they haven't earned that type of blind faith.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
TRUST CMKX, UC, Glenn, Melvin?

First, ask yourself what have they done to earn your trust?
Second, ask youself what have they done to destroy your trust?

There is no question that the list to the 2nd question is much, much longer by far than that of the first.

Ask yourself simplier questions. What have they accomplished? Diamonds? Earnings? Informed Shareholders? SEC Filing? Objective Valuations of Claims? Issued/Outstanding? Full Disclosure? Non-Arm's Length Transactions? Shareholder Voting? Conflicts of Interest? Ambiguity?
Convoluted Deals? 800 Billion Authorized?
Reverse Splits? Worthless Dividends? Nepotism?

Lots more! How about Funny Car, Truck & Motorcycle, Visa Card, Past Track Records and Litigation?


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Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
So, it comes down to trust? Looks like your Northern Labs is a bit more stable, and better managed than CMKX. You may have reason to hang in there with them, but CMKX has shown that they haven't earned that type of blind faith.


They haven't earned mistrust either. Regardless of Wallace's rantings.

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Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
noahltl wrote:
They haven't earned mistrust either.
--------------------------------------------
noahltl, are you reading the same posts the rest of us are reading? Even the normal pumpers are asking a few basic questions that convey a certain level of mistrust...
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
noahltl wrote:
Regardless of Wallace's rantings.
--------------------------------
Got to go for now but will get back to you later about "rantings"...maybe even a few laughable quotes of yours.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
noahltl wrote:
They haven't earned mistrust either.


Some mistrust comes from a lack of understanding


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Well I trust CMKX is wanting to become a fully reporting Co again.
And if that were to happen, probably about 14 of your 17 questions are soon answered...

Wally wrote...

Ask yourself simplier questions. What have they accomplished? Diamonds? Earnings? Informed Shareholders? SEC Filing? Objective Valuations of Claims? Issued/Outstanding?
Full Disclosure? Non-Arm's Length Transactions? Shareholder Voting? Conflicts of Interest? Ambiguity?
Convoluted Deals? 800 Billion Authorized?
Reverse Splits? Worthless Dividends? Nepotism?
------------------------------------
Deuces and one-eyed-jacks are wild.
Could all be one he$$ of a poker face U. C. has.
Could be a bluff, could be a royal flush.But I'm all in, and I call.

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Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
noahltl wrote:
They haven't earned mistrust either.


----------------------------------------
Wallace1 wrote: "noahltl, are you reading the same posts the rest of us are reading? Even the normal pumpers are asking a few basic questions that convey a certain level of mistrust..."
----------------------------------------

Wallace1...

Lack of patience doesn't mean lack of trust. The only posters I have seen imply lack of trust are you and a few of your buds. Everyone else seems just anxious for some good news. How can you say it conveys mistrust? Your statements convey mistrust. Please don't speak for me or others.

 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WorkAHolic:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wallace#1:
[b]noahltl wrote:
They haven't earned mistrust either.

[/B][/QUOTE]

Question: Do you trust Melvin?
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by tradingpennys:
quote:
Question: Do you trust Melvin?

Implicitly! Melvins word is gospel, at least when he's not drunk. LOL!


 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Unfortunately for the innocent investors, especially in the world of the Bulletin Board and Pink Sheet stocks, a simple cold call to a company about exploring the possibility of discussing the concept of possibly negotiating a working relationship at some time in the future can magically turn into a "strategic alliance" between the two companies in a press release. A grant application to the government which hasn't even been filed, can suddenly be deemed to be "close to approval". A non-existent and completely fabricated "buy" recommendation, supposedly issued by an established investment house, that was simply conjured up in the devious mind of a stock manipulator can suddenly show up in a press release with all the apparent credibility of a highly respected Merrill Lynch telecommunications analyst's recommendation on a NYSE company. (OK, bad choice for an analogy but you get the point).

Since press releases by companies are not subject to verification of accuracy or truthfulness by the services that distribute them, the investing public has no idea that any of them are anything but reliable and truthful information and only subject to the usual safe harbor provisions which say, "all this might never happen as stated". Sadly it doesn't say, "every word here could just as easily be a big fat lie intended only for the purpose of ripping off the investing public and enriching the promoters and insiders".

It is true that, companies that manipulate their stocks through false or misleading press releases can be, and often are, held accountable by the SEC but, unfortunately, this can often take several years to come to light and that is long after the proverbial horse has left the proverbial barn and all that remains is the pain of loss and the bad taste left in the investor's mouth from another betrayal of trust.

There are only a handful of groups that work to inform the public about scams and rip offs by public companies that use illegal or questionable tactics in promoting their stock. These tactics usually include the publishing of false or misleading press releases.
--------------------------
LOL Upside!
 


Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
Question: Do you trust Melvin?


tradingpennys: I'm not sure if it was me that you directed this post to, but I will answer it.

I like Melvin. I think he truly believes in what he says, though he may be misinformed or confused about facts. Although he may not be the best IR guy around, I don't think he would intentionally lie. He may, in his own way, shade facts to keep from disclosing sensitive information, but I do not believe he would intentionally lie to us. His enthusiasm and excitement seem to get the best of him and some take him way too seriously. I like enthusiasm and excitement.

It is my opinion that most stockholders are frustrated because we don't have answers as of yet, and most believe there is a reason for not having those answers. It is the very, very few that associate lack of information for mistrust. Those are two important and different issues. Just because the time frame dosen't coincide with the rumors or guestimates of some on these boards, doesn't indicate lying and mistrust.

There has been nothing that this company has done to warrant mistrust and I resent someone stating otherwise without facts. Some on this board mix fact with theory and present the total package as fact. Not good. The facts are all representative of a good company fighting to keep this business viable. Just because we don't know all the facts dosen't mean they misrepresent.

I trust this company which is why I invested in it. If I did not trust them, I would move on. I suggest others do the same.

 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 

Noahltl wrote:
Some mistrust comes from a lack of understanding
Highwaychild wrote:
Deuces and one-eyed-jacks are wild.
Could all be one he$$ of a poker face U. C. has.
Could be a bluff, could be a royal flush.But I'm all in, and I call.
WorkAHolic wrote(edited):
Lack of patience doesn't mean lack of trust. Everyone else seems just anxious for some good news. How can you say it conveys mistrust? Please don't speak for me or others.
--------------------------------------------
Noahltl, it’s not a question of a “lack of understanding”. Understanding what is going on is what makes the problem obvious.

Child, whenever UC shows his face, especially at race tracks, he looks more and more like a con man to me, not a “poker face”. Bluff??? Sure, and the “flush” is you and others flushing your CMKX shs and dividends down the drain.

Work, lack of patience…anxious??? What is there about that whole CMKX operation, UC and others that does not convey mistrust? I speak neither for you nor for others. It is just apparent from posts that more and more of the CMKX diehards are seeing the light or at least having serious reservations.

I’d say you folks have a foul wind blowing and it’s not Jeanne, Ivan or anything natural…but IS man made! And, all three of you bought in to it…known as CMKX.

What kind of answers can any of you give me to the many questions being asked? “Rantings” (an obvious diversion)! “Deuces and one-eyed jacks are wild” (kid’s game and meaningless)! “Patience and anxious for good news” (hasn’t happened to date and probably never will)! Stock has been doing nothing but going down!!!!!! TELLING PERFORMANCE!!!!


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Wallace said:

"Noahltl, it’s not a question of a “lack of understanding”. Understanding what is going on is what makes the problem obvious."

Exactly Wallace, but it is your understanding, not ours. If you bring forward facts to go with your "understanding" then you may be able to get some of us to come over to your side. Your abstract posts do not convince anyone, it only takes up thread space. You try to use some unknown, unproven knowledge that you claim to have of Wall Street to support nothing other than opinion. Sorry, we need facts or we're not moving.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Work,

Only a fool would keep a known fool in an IR position! It is too important an entry to the public and to financing opportunities.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Work,

Only a fool would keep a known fool in an IR position! It is too important an entry to the public and to financing opportunities.


If you haven't noticed some of the prior posts here about Melvin, let me repeat. Melving is kept in that position to justify a paycheck so that he can care for his sick wife. Beleive it or not, Urban is just that way.

Shortl after Glenn got involved, Melvin was gagged about anything except drilling, of which he has some expertise.

When the reverse merger is done, Vicky Curran is already being "prepped" for the job as IR for SGGM.

So why not give Melvin a break?

 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
noahltl, you have been literally beaten over the head with fact after fact. You just plain do not listen or chose to ignore them. You keep spinning round and round with the same old redundant material re CMKX. Don't you get the least bit dizzy with all the SPINNING? Seems that you did last night! LOL
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
noahltl wrote:
Melving is kept in that position to justify a paycheck so that he can care for his sick wife. Beleive it or not, Urban is just that way.
----------------------------------------
Was that information released in an "official company PR" or is it just another of your speculative spins re CMKX? Maybe you are an "insider" and UC has provided you with that information unbeknownst to anyone else? Are you now the official CMKX IR spokesman?

 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:
Noah my friend

Dwman as well

How are you boys doing? A lot of happenings in the past two weeks with our stock!!

This is GOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDD!

Did I mention I missed you guys!

3.8 Million STRONG! GO CMKX!

-Byrd-


JB...We missed you too. Just now got back home and saw your greetings. Thanks.
Don


 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
noahltl, you have been literally beaten over the head with fact after fact. You just plain do not listen or chose to ignore them. You keep spinning round and round with the same old redundant material re CMKX. Don't you get the least bit dizzy with all the SPINNING? Seems that you did last night! LOL

Hey Walace, let Noah and the rest of us spin. It's gonna be all over but the shouting in a couple of weeks. The shouting you will hear are the shouts of joy for those of us who are long and shouts of pain for the bashers who failed their bosses.


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
noahltl, you have been literally beaten over the head with fact after fact. You just plain do not listen or chose to ignore them. You keep spinning round and round with the same old redundant material re CMKX. Don't you get the least bit dizzy with all the SPINNING? Seems that you did last night! LOL


Wallace, deduction is not evidence. That's all I see from you. You try to take some stock model that you are aware of and attempt to apply it to this stock. What you cannot see, is that this stock is not like any others. Even those who know pinks, know that this is true. You cannot apply models, therefore you cannot apply deductions based on those models. You are so convinced of yourself, that you believe that your opinion, is evidence. IT IS NOT.

This stock will not fit into any form or mold, until Roger is done getting it into full reporting status. Nor will the full story be known until security precautions are lifted.

Don't you think Kensington / DeBeers would love to know Urban and Roger are up to? Don't you think the MM's would love to know what's coming next? Why is it so difficult for you to understand why security is so important to this stock? As difficult as it may be for you, pretend for a moment that my theory on the UCAD dividend is true. Can you not see why they couldn't have told us about this in advance. The MM's wouldn't have placed the naked shares in peoples accounts and gotten caught.

There is more to come. More twists and turns and head fakes. We can't be told everything until it comes to pass. And the bashers will continue to use the companies inabilities to inform its shareholders, to turn around and bash them for it.

Once again, for the bashers, is this just a fun game for you? Haven't you already learned that we ain't movin' on some opinion that you carry here? It's a waste of time and thread space. We are only going to move on DD and PR.


 


Posted by case on :
 
I have a dumb question
about this news. How many
of you usually get a news on
a company on Saturday??

CMKX Pays +stk Per Share Record Date 08/31/2004
via CDS

September 25, 2004

Company: CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Common Stock Symbol: CMKX Amount: +stk Record Date: 08/31/2004 Payment Date: 10/18/2004

This information can be viewed at http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/dailylist/history/2004/Dividends/di09242004.stm

Tel: (203) 375-9609 NASDAQ Market Data Integrity
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Noahltl wrote:
You try to use some unknown, unproven knowledge that you claim to have of Wall Street to support nothing other than opinion.
---------------------------------------------

Starting to get into the personal attack mode again, noahltl?

---------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------
Noahltl also wrote (edited)”


Wallace, deduction is not evidence. That's all I see from you.

Exactly my point, noahltl. You refuse to see the facts that I, and many others, have presented here about CMKX.

Noahltl also wrote:
You try to take some stock model that you are aware of and attempt to apply it to this stock.
Q: With “some unknown, unproven knowledge that you claim to have of Wall Street…”? Q: How is that possible? Contradictions!!!

Even those who know pinks, know that this is true. You cannot apply models, therefore you cannot apply deductions based on those models.
Q: And all that from an admitted securities novice?

This stock will not fit into any form or mold, until Roger is done getting it into full reporting status.
Q: Who told you that? UC? Glenn? Melvin? Any one of those pumpers you post, such as DrD, Sterling, Zen (? Now), people from CT?

Nor will the full story be known until security precautions are lifted.
Q: What security precautions? Who told you said “precautions” are in effect or in place”? Again, do you have inside info?

Don't you think Kensington / DeBeers would love to know Urban and Roger are up to?
Don't you think the MM's would love to know what's coming next?
A: 10 to 1 they already know......NOTHING.

There is more to come. More twists and turns and head fakes. We can't be told everything until it comes to pass.
Q: Just what is coming?
Q: "More twists and turns and head fakes"?
Not a very good looking picture...snakes, slithering, convolutions, misinformation, deception, etc.

And the bashers will continue to use the companies inabilities to inform its shareholders, to turn around and bash them for it.
A: “Inabilities” require changes in management to correct said inabilities. Shareholders can certainly be told the I/O, Balance Sheet, Earnings and Cash Flow information. Those things are an ongoing process in any company...even a donut shop.
They are always readily at hand since current up-to-date account books are required both in the US and in Canada. They are simply ledger entries.

We are only going to move on DD and PR.
A: You didn’t purchase on reliable DD and PR, so many of you do not know how to move when you DO see reliability.


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
With news like this comming out more and more...
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath%3DCOMTEX%5Cbw%5C2004%5C08%5C31%5C30843011.html%26clientid%3D168%26provider%3DBUSINESS_WIRE&symbol=NNOS

No wonder Wall St. Wally's gettin' stressed.
Anyone remember when those huge blocks were going thru and Wally said he got some .0001 shares from connections?
Anyone remember those strange 911 shares trades?
Jeff out about 48 hours before the UCAD divvy.
Alot of strange 'Twilight Zone' chit going on.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
case,

Unusual but not unknown. Can happen at any time with any company.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Way-high-child wrote:
No wonder Wall St. Wally's gettin' stressed.
--------------------------------------------
Hell no! CMKX couldn't begin to stress me.
You've been dreaming about CMKX far too much! LOL


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
case,

Examples (all today 9/25):

Symbol News Release Release Time
FNPR First National to fund city wind generation projects valued at over $20 million 25/9/04 3:30:00 PM
SZKMF Suzuki's big plans for India hit roadblock as government raises objection 25/9/04 1:08:44 PM
FNPR First National to fund city wind generation projects valued at over $20 million 25/9/04 12:22:00 PM
TGYA TGYA Pays 10-1 F/S Per Share 25/9/04 6:37:30 AM
MSTI MSTI Pays .21 Per Share Record Date 10/12/2004 25/9/04 6:37:30 AM
HINKY HINKY Pays .19475 final Per Share Record Date 09/08/2004 25/9/04 6:37:30 AM
CNPWM CNPWM Pays .5225 Per Share Record Date 10/08/2004 25/9/04 6:37:30 AM
CMKX CMKX Pays +stk Per Share Record Date 08/31/2004 25/9/04 6:37:30 AM
TYNLY TYNLY Pays .297 approximate Per Share Record Date 11/12/2004 25/9/04 6:36:30 AM
BOSEP BOSEP Pays 1.0625 Per Share Record Date 10/08/2004 25/9/04 6:36:30 AM
ALPCF ALPCF Acquired ** 25/9/04 5:36:30 AM
LDTI LDTI OTC Deletion Eff. 09/27/2004 25/9/04 5:35:30 AM
GCCXQ GCCXQ OTC Deletion Eff. 09/27/2004 25/9/04 5:35:30 AM

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 25, 2004).]
 


Posted by case on :
 
Wallace#1
Thanks, usually on Saturdays
I just get hype emails from
newsletters! Usually never company news!
So, who is CDS?
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
case,

So who is CDS????? Not sure what you mean.

By the way, to check PRs such as the one I posted, you can always check out www.stockhouse.com and then click on "NEWS".
 


Posted by case on :
 
I have another dumb question.
Where did you get this news from?
Smallcapcenter.com???
I didn't find it on yahoo
or Pink sheets http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?symbol=CMKX
 
Posted by SmokingUSA on :
 
So who or what company is CDS?
I see StockHouse has the same news!
CMKX Pays +stk Per Share Record Date 08/31/2004

via CDS

Sep 25, 2004 6:37:30 AM
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
case,

No question is dumb. See above as to where I got releases. Noticed "Will" referenced CDS...news source.
 


Posted by SmokingUSA on :
 
Wallace:
I would also like to see
where this CDS news source is from?
I'd like to visit their web site!

[This message has been edited by SmokingUSA (edited September 25, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
The Press Relaease is from Smallcap center. You can find it here:

quote:
Originally posted by SmokingUSA:
Wallace:
I would also like to see
where this CDS news source is from?
I'd like to visit their web site!

[This message has been edited by SmokingUSA (edited September 25, 2004).]


[This message has been edited by will (edited September 25, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SmokingUSA:
Wallace:
I would also like to see
where this CDS news source is from?
I'd like to visit their web site!

[This message has been edited by SmokingUSA (edited September 25, 2004).]



From CERN Document Service
http://cds.cern.ch/news.shtml


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Thanks, Will.
 
Posted by will on :
 
No has said what it means or refers to yet. I don't think its the UCAD dividend. I saw no comments or interpretations yet.

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Thanks, Will.


 


Posted by SmokingUSA on :
 
Will:
Will, I get the Smallcapcenter
news. I see StockHouse has it.
What I'm interested in also
is where it came from. I get
alot of news and never heard
of via CDS?
By the way nice newsletter you put out!
 
Posted by SmokingUSA on :
 
Thanks from me also. I'm going to go visit this place.
Thanks again!

From CERN Document Service http://cds.cern.ch/news.shtml
 


Posted by will on :
 
OK, I received an email from First Alert News through smallcap center. It was right there. I didn't fabricate it. I have no idea who/what CDS is. I got the email and posted it here.

quote:
Originally posted by SmokingUSA:
Will:
Will, I get the Smallcapcenter
news. I see StockHouse has it.
What I'm interested in also
is where it came from. I get
alot of news and never heard
of via CDS?
By the way nice newsletter you put out!

[This message has been edited by will (edited September 25, 2004).]
 


Posted by SmokingUSA on :
 
Noah: I should of thanked you.
So far here is my results from that site.

Search term cmkx did not match any record. Nearest terms in any collection are:

4 cmk
1 cmk-5
1 cmk2
1 cmkdv
1 cmkin
- cmkx
14 cml
2 cml's
8 cmla
1 cmliris
1 cmlog
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Looks like its in reference to CIM dividend since that is the record date for that divy. Must be getting them on Oct 18. Good, I like free stuff.
 
Posted by SmokingUSA on :
 
Will:
I wasn't suggesting
that you made it up!
I received the same thing from
Smallcapcenter.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Will can you do something with that link? It's stretching out the page really far.
 
Posted by SmokingUSA on :
 
noahltl:
Can you point out the
right link for me.
All I can find is
Electronic Info from this site.
Thanks

From CERN Document Service http://cds.cern.ch/news.shtml

[This message has been edited by SmokingUSA (edited September 25, 2004).]
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
You know, this is ridiculous. In my opinion only, it's pretty obvious what's going on. I hope I'm wrong, I'm pretty sure I'm right. You guys have fun, I'm gone until something definitive happens one way or the other, got bigger fish to fry. Good luck to all, myself included! Take care.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Well, now isn't that special?
If that release came from CMKX, it sure is as clear as usual. Geezz!
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SmokingUSA:
noahltl:
Can you point out the
right link for me.
All I can find is
Electronic Info from this site.
Thanks

From CERN Document Service http://cds.cern.ch/news.shtml

[This message has been edited by SmokingUSA (edited September 25, 2004).]



Smoke, just a guess, but if they are selling this info to news services, they probably don't allow access from the general public.


 


Posted by will on :
 
I asked all day what it refers to and/or what it means lol.
Just their usual crap.
All the geniuses will be calling it a fake PR.


quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Well, now isn't that special?
If that release came from CMKX, it sure is as clear as usual. Geezz!


 


Posted by SmokingUSA on :
 
Wallace:
May be I'm just to tired and this is
nothing, but CMKX's web site doesn't even
say any thing from today about this!

there are currently 4 news postings
.
9/24/2004 : CMKM Diamonds Announces Dividend Stock Will Be Paid on Oct. 6, 2004
9/13/2004 : CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces Saskatchewan Drill Target Update
9/13/2004 : CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces 2nd Payment of $2,500,000 from St. George Metals, Inc.
9/2/2004 : CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces $10,000,000 Joint Venture Agreement
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Well, now isn't that special?
If that release came from CMKX, it sure is as clear as usual. Geezz!


News service may have picked up on a PR that is being released soon, and abbreviated it. I don;t really know much about these news services, but before distribution, they may send out "header" to reporting services in advance of the PR


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
I asked all day what it refers to and/or what it means lol.
Just their usual crap.
All the geniuses will be calling it a fake PR.




Will did you see my post above about CIM divy?


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Well guys, I am as stumped as you are about this one. I suspect it might refer to CIM as noahltl stated...assuming it is legit.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Yes, and I figured that off of the 8/31 date, UCAD was 8/20.

quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:

Will did you see my post above about CIM divy?



 


Posted by SmokingUSA on :
 
Well, I'm sorry I butted
in to your guys posts, but I was
wondering about this and couldn't help my self when you guys bought it up.
(Whether this stock is a scam or not we
will all find out before its all over.)
I'm playing to the end simply because
this all fasinates me!
I am curious about this report, what did it
was I couldn't look it up at Nasdaq Trader.
Where it referenced to.
Sorry again for butting in here though.
You guys take care! I'm tired!!!
Good Night!!!

 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SmokingUSA:
Well, I'm sorry I butted
in to your guys posts, but I was
wondering about this and couldn't help my self when you guys bought it up.
(Whether this stock is a scam or not we
will all find out before its all over.)
I'm playing to the end simply because
this all fasinates me!
I am curious about this report, what did it
was I couldn't look it up at Nasdaq Trader.
Where it referenced to.
Sorry again for butting in here though.
You guys take care! I'm tired!!!
Good Night!!!


Smoke, you're welcome to "butt in" anytime. That's what we all do here. LOL


 


Posted by will on :
 
Geez Smoke! I don't know anymore about it than you do. I got in an email, didn't understand what it was or which dividend it referred to. Took a couple of guesses, reread it, saw the 8/31 record and figured it had to do with the payment of the CIM dividend. If that's a PR then I'm an astronaut.

quote:
Originally posted by SmokingUSA:
Well, I'm sorry I butted
in to your guys posts, but I was
wondering about this and couldn't help my self when you guys bought it up.
(Whether this stock is a scam or not we
will all find out before its all over.)
I'm playing to the end simply because
this all fasinates me!
I am curious about this report, what did it
was I couldn't look it up at Nasdaq Trader.
Where it referenced to.
Sorry again for butting in here though.
You guys take care! I'm tired!!!
Good Night!!!


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
I'm gone too. Good evening.
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
WOW! Looks like Knight is gonna be in trouble!
quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
With news like this comming out more and more...
ht tp://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath%3DCOMTEX%5Cbw%5C2004%5C08%5C31%5C30843011.html%26clientid%3D168%26provider%3DBUSINESS_WIRE&symbol=NNOS

No wonder Wall St. Wally's gettin' stressed.
Anyone remember when those huge blocks were going thru and Wally said he got some .0001 shares from connections?
Anyone remember those strange 911 shares trades?
Jeff out about 48 hours before the UCAD divvy.
Alot of strange 'Twilight Zone' chit going on.



 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
The interesting thing is that Rupert Perrin
was appointed to CMKM's board of directors
in a December 2002 PR.
Not sure if he is still there tho?
But it show's how far this web of confusion
extends.
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2002_Dec_6/ai_94966989

quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
WOW! Looks like Knight is gonna be in trouble!

[This message has been edited by tic_toc (edited September 26, 2004).]
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
Here is something that I havent seen mentioned here.

Organized Crime and the Diamond Industry

Highlights
Organized crime groups and individuals
associated to organized crime have been
identified as showing interest in the
diamond industry for the purpose of
infiltration or manipulation.
http://www.cisc.gc.ca/AnnualReport2004/Cisc2004/diamond2004.html

Full details on the link.

The reason I brought this up was I saw an
article in a magazine about the Hells Angels
and how they are manipulating the Canadian
Diamond Industry. However on the surface
it does not seem like this is happening with
CMKX, but with the lack of forthright
information and UC's background as a prison
officer, it would make him an ideal
candidate to have the connections to some of
the shadier characters in Canada.
There is that much hype around this stock,
they would have to be blind and deaf to not
know about it. You can bet they will want a
piece of the pie at some point. It may be in
UC's best interests to work with them. Just a thought.

[This message has been edited by tic_toc (edited September 26, 2004).]
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tic_toc:
Here is something that I havent seen mentioned here.

Organized Crime and the Diamond Industry

Highlights
Organized crime groups and individuals
associated to organized crime have been
identified as showing interest in the
diamond industry for the purpose of
infiltration or manipulation.
http://www.cisc.gc.ca/AnnualReport2004/Cisc2004/diamond2004.html

Full details on the link.

The reason I brought this up was I saw an
article in a magazine about the Hells Angels
and how they are manipulating the Canadian
Diamond Industry. However on the surface
it does not seem like this is happening with
CMKX, but with the lack of forthright
information and UC's background as a prison
officer, it would make him an ideal
candidate to have the connections to some of
the shadier characters in Canada.
There is that much hype around this stock,
they would have to be blind and deaf to not
know about it. You can bet they will want a
piece of the pie at some point. It may be in
UC's best interests to work with them. Just a thought.

[This message has been edited by tic_toc (edited September 26, 2004).]


I really don't think Urban needs any help manipulating. lol He does need help learning how to mine tho. IMO with 22 family members that's enough people to park themselves in each of these forums and pump the heck out of this stock and we wouldn't have the slightest idea. The way Urban has been promoting I would bet he thought of it & his family is doing it. I know they read these boards. But if only 1 or 2 of the "family" is keeping up on all of them that wouldn't be effective but to have each forum individually covered - 1 for each forum... hhmmmm. Why I think this is because each forum has at least 1 person that is sooooooo devoted.
 


Posted by is300 on :
 
Ok, here is a quick run down of my day at the races. First of all, I understand that this would and should be classified as a race rumor to each and everyone of you. You guys do not have a clue who I am and therefore I understand if you take what I say with a grain of salt. Hopefully over the next few days, several others will confirm my experience. I am going to try and remember what was said to me as well as several other shareholders as we listened to Ed Donough (sp) speak regarding upcoming events with UCAD and CMKX. This is in no particular order, just things that come to mind that was told while I was present. I was only present probably an hour due to my 9 year old son being bored and wanting to watch the race cars.

Ed talked at length about the activities that are taking place in Ecudor (sp?). He said this was beneficial to CMKX; however, not exactly what I was there to hear.

He stated that Roger Glenn is CMKX coporate attorney and he is working diliegently to make CMKX fully reporting. He stated that they are making every effort to have us reporting bt the Las Vegas party. Roger Glenn will be present at the party as well. Furthermore, the governor of Nevada, a senator from the state, the founder of Pizza Hut/Blockbuster Video, and some other VIPs will be present as well. The party is expected to be huge and they have already spent $80,000 on the food.

Ed stated that there are large investors that are very interested in CMKX. He stated that they will not touch a non reporting company. He stated that with CMKX fully reporting and a massive buy pressure, this is what would cause the shorts to cover. Once again, they did not say that they would be reporting by the party; however, they are doing everything they can to become fully reporting by the party. Ed also stated that there are alot of positive things taking place in Canada that have not been made public.

As I was standing there, Ed received a phone call. This reportedly from a potential investor. A short time later, an individual arrived at the tent. I was told that it was the vice president of Corning, a huge corproration. I beleived that this has been confirmed.

I have been long on CMKX; however, I have had my bad days regarding the outcome of this company. Todays experience has changed all of that. I am more convinced than every that this is the stock play of a lifetime.

Briwadd
Diamond Hunter


member is offline

cmkxdiamond.********s32.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1096163842
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
A few months ago I said that when we see daily volume drop to the lower millions that that would be a turning point. I am thinking we are getting near. Now I am looking for the second PR; right after the first (IPO, Reporting, etc)that says Several large investors (solid big board guys) have joined our board and will be providing $gazillions. This solves two of the biggest problems all of us have discussed here MANAGEMENT & FUNDING.
This may come rather soon, if Canada is what everyone thinks it is.
VAN
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
stock play of a lifetime...a few math problems with this

800 billion shares divided by days in a yr (365) equals 2.2 billion $'s of diamonds mined per day to get $1 of diamonds per share per yr. now the pps will not be based totally on this but look at other mining companies, large up & running companies their pps is based more on yearly income then total claim value.
CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) has received all necessary drilling permits and Surface Exploration Permits to mobilize its drilling equipment to a new site located approximately 5 miles northwest of Kensington-DeBeers Kimberlite 122 and 6 1/2 miles northwest of Shore Gold Inc.'s Star Diamond Project in the Forte a La Corne, Saskatchewan. The drill site partnership includes Shane Resources (SEI.H-)CDNX, United Carina Resources Corp. (UCA.)CDNX, Consolidated Pine Channel Gold Corp. (KPG) CDNX, and U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. UCAD. All the partners shall have representation at the drill site at time of drilling.

cmkx doesn't own 100% of anything. since this pr we need to add sggm. they may be the lead partner but that doesn't equate into pps. anything is possible and with shares given in differant companies it helps but to be the stock play of a lifetime i'm guessing but 100 million shares minimium would need to be owned to be life changing. 1 million shares may one day make a nice profit but not life changing.

[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited September 26, 2004).]
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
Dwman Good to be back!

WOW, ALL I AM GOING TO SAY IS WOW...

Wallace#1,

"I’d say you folks have a foul wind blowing and it’s not Jeanne, Ivan or anything natural…but IS man made! And, all three of you bought in to it…known as CMKX. "

Again you try your hardest to discredit this company to me and others. Why are you so involved in this thread? It isn't about discussing the events as your words resonate your deeper meanings with this stock.

The harder you try Wally, the more and more confidant that CMKX is worth much more than it is now. The more your try and steer me or others away, and that is what you are doing by trying to post your opinions, which are that this stock is misleading people and can not be trusted in any way or degree.

Why? Wallace, you have been posting here for almost three months daily. You are not as HEAVILY involved in discussion on ANY OTHER THREAD EXCEPT CMKX... Why?

Trust what you say and write or trust CMKX, Roger Glenn a high profile lawyer and Urban who has used his skills to acquire 2 million acres of land and claims...

Believe YOU, or THEM?

Wallace#1 from a message board or Roger Glenn, who was once a lawyer with the SEC...

Wallace#1 from the Internet... Roger Glenn from the real world.

Wallce#1 who is 80 years old as he says...
Roger Glenn who isn't 80 years old and has closed MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN DEALS...

Wallace#1 who spends his days trying to discredit CMKX on a message board OR

CMKX Diamonds that own land next to DeBeer's 40-50 BILLION DOLLAR CLIAM...

Wallace#1 who starts posting on the CMKX Allstocks Thread at 11 am and finishes at Midnight...
or

CMKX Diamonds...

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Who should I listen to...
In the end you are asking people to trust yourself and ' your research and DD of CMKX'...

Versus actually trusting a company that has 2 million acres in mineral claims...

lol, thats a hard choice...

-John-

-John-

[This message has been edited by JBCak47 (edited September 26, 2004).]
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
JBCak wrote:

Wallce#1 who is 80 years old as he says...
---------------------------------------------
Never did say that!! WRONG!!!! Besides, it's not important with reference to CMKX. The rest of his CMKX comments are just as meaningless and/or incorrect as usual.

The least he could do is let his vendetta rest for a week instead of less than 24 hours.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
JBCak also wrote (edited):

It isn't about discussing the events
A: WRONG!!!
the more and more confidant that CMKX is worth much more
A: WRONG!!!
you have been posting here for almost three months daily
A: WRONG!!!
trust CMKX, Roger Glenn a high profile lawyer and Urban who has used his skills to acquire 2 million acres of land and claims...
A: WRONG!!!
Wallace#1 from the Internet... Roger Glenn from the real world.
A: WRONG!!!
Wallace#1 who spends his days trying to discredit CMKX on a message board
A: WRONG!!!
Wallace#1 who starts posting on the CMKX Allstocks Thread at 11 am and finishes at Midnight
A: WRONG!!!

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 26, 2004).]
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
Trust me Wally, I do not have a vendita against you.

So you are NOT, 80, I was a decade off.. 70... :

I am NOT more confidant in CMKX? That's wrong, I am!

Again, This has nothing to do with me and you, this has to do with you presenting your opinion of CMKX and myself presenting MY OPINION of CMKX.

Let us look at the facts:

FACT:

Who is Wallace? We don't know. Someone who posts on an Internet Message Board called Allstocks.com. This person considers CMKX a scam yet has presented no information to back that claim up. He insits he is trying to 'help' new investors out.

Who is Roger Glenn: He worked as a lawyer in the public field, at the Securities and Exchange Commission, then went to the provate sector where he has continued to build his business as a lawyer, handling MEGA-MILLION dollar deals...
Currently CMKX Diamonds has hired him to be their legal consule.

Who is Wallace#1? I am not sure...

Who is Urban Casavant? He is the owner of CMKX Diamonds, which holds some of the largest claims in Saskatchawan, Canada. Currently CMKX Diamonds has completed an aerial survey of all their lands, PLUS adjancent lands...

FYI, Debeer's holds a measily 55k acres of land, directly in the middle of our cliam area, that is worth 40-50 BILLION US DOLLARS...

Who is Wallace#1? He claims to be an older man, in his 70's...

Who is UCAD? United Canadian Minerals is a JV mining company that has linked with CMKX Diamonds in order to help recover many of the minerals and wealth on CMKX's property. UCAD has given us cash, stock and an advance knowledge of mining in exchange for a percentage of our mineral rights.

We are also getting a dividend of UCAD...

I can go on, and on, and on... But I won't.

My point is that someone 'outthere' is trying VERY HARD to show the negatives of CMKX.

Ask why they would try and do this? I am not trying to fight, in fact I haven't said ANYTHING remotely as mean or cynical.

I am presenting my opinion of Wallace#1 in regards to his stance and opinion of CMKX Diamonds.

He says it is 'wrong' that I said he has been here daily for three months... Okay how about ALMOST DAILY for two and a half months?

Because I can dig up posts going back to the first week of July Wallace#1, with your name on it. Today is September 26th, The first week of July makes it 10 weeks. OR TWO AND ONE HALF MONTHS of ALMOST DAILY posting. Or am I still 'wrong' on that point?

Notice how CMKX Diamonds has taken in MILLIONS of DOLLARS in the past six weeks, WHICH FOR A PINK SHEET IS INCREDIBLE, YET all someone asks is "Where did this money come from?" Always negative. I have YET to see a positive post in regards to the company. Even in light of CMKX Diamonds getting cash and stock...

This causes me to do one thing and one thing only:

B U Y M O R E S H A R E S OF C M K X

-John-

[This message has been edited by JBCak47 (edited September 26, 2004).]
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Good point.

Who is Wally and what are his expertise?

It is easy to rag a company. I could even rag microsoft. Someone has a new product, or they will be divided in anti-trust, or the European Union refuses their operating system.

I can think of a hundred ways CMKX could fail, but pessimism doesn't destroy overcomers. Often it motivates them more.CMKX I believe is a winner.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
JBCak wrote:
Trust me Wally, I do not have a vendita against you.
So you are NOT, 80, I was a decade off.. 70...
---------------------------------------------
WRONG!! As usual.

 
Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
Wallace wrote:

"Wrong... As Usual..."

Notice the ONLY point that he could say 'WRONG' to was my quote on his AGE?!?

LOLOLOL THAT IS COMICAL!!!

The only thing you could PROVE me wrong about was Wallace#1's age...

I guess ALL THAT OTHER STUFF I WROTE YOU COULDN'T provide any evidence to try and refute my claims.

WOW, CMKX IS LOOKING BETTER AND BETTER BY THE SECOND!

-Byrd-

P.S.

Hola Highway Child
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Rumor from the Sterling board is that Northstar (NSDM) may be joining in. So I found this on that company.

quote:

NSDM North Star Diamonds Inc (OTHER OTC) 9/24/2004 12:00:00 AM ET

Realtime Quote $0.03 + $0.00 (+6.25%) Refresh Quote



Press Release for North Star Diamonds Inc


NSDM Diamond Sales To Finance Diamond Exploration
9/9/2004 10:00:00 AM
BELLINGHAM, WA, Sep 9, 2004 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- North Star Diamonds, Inc. (NQB Pink Sheets: NSDM) is pleased to announce that it has reached a major milestone in its goal to become a vertically integrated diamond company.

The e-commerce website is now operational, featuring one of the largest selections of diamonds to the public. The inventory contains over 5000 diamonds valued at over $8,000,000.00. The selection contains virtually all shapes, sizes, colors and clarity. The diamonds can be selected by price, color, size and shape or any combination of characteristics. The inventory is updated every 24 hours by replacing the sold diamonds with new inventory.

Mr. Alec Peck is in charge of the day to day operations of all aspects of the e-commerce site. He is working with our technical and marketing staff on improving the website to reflect the quality and prestige of North Star Diamonds, Inc.

"This is a major accomplishment for NSDM as this will give the company a positive cash flow with which to expand its exploration program without the selling of shares and diluting the shareholders equity" stated Walter Stunder. "This gives the company new impetus which is required to attain the growth required." Mr. Stunder also predicts that the company will operate at a profit in the month of September.

For further information on NSDM, visit




Positive cash flow always helps.
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
Raider,

I agree...

The more they lash out at our stock, the more it tells me there is something BIG to it, not that I didn't feel that already, however, EVERYTIME they post and lash out, it just causes me to think, WOW, SUNDAY AFTERNOON and they are lashing out, WOW...

EVEN ON A SUNDAY...

-Byrd-
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
Raider,

Maybe they'll be an outlet for Urban to sell his Casavant Diamonds through?

5000 Diamonds at 8 MILLION dollars? I have heard UC wants to mine and MARKET the diamonds, being everything from miner, to middle man to retail seller... Which equates to $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

-Byrd-
 


Posted by netsec on :
 
Wallace#1 and JBCak47 I am asking very politely, can you take your issues with each other offline or to another board or you could even take it to email?

I don't have much time to read Allstock threads as it is so when I have to read through the hyperbole you 2 post about each other it frustrates me to no end.

Wallace#1 you are always so negative about this stock that I bet if the company came out with a PR stating that they hit diamonds and their total valuation was $100billion you'd still say it was a scam. JBCak you are always so positive about this stock that I bet if the company came out with a PR stating that they were bankrupt and their land was valued at only $4.27 (enough for a BigMac combo) you'd say it was just a ploy by the company to expose the naked shorting McDonalds was doing with CMKX stock.

Wallace with you being so negative and with JBCak being so positve it makes you wonder if maybe you are the same person. Now wouldn't that be the biggest news this thread has seen in awhile.
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
JBCak47 Wrote...Hola Highway Child

Word Byrd.HA HA HA...funny stuff.


 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
I am not fighting NOR am I being 'mean' to anyone...

Nor will 'I take it offline'... He is making comments about the company. I also have posted my opinions about such matters.

I shouldn't have to take my comments offline when they have EVERYTHING to do with this thread, i.e. CMKX... I am sticking to the topic at hand, CMKX, as in the past I have deviated from it and caused trouble.

Netsec,

All my comments have been on-topic for this thread. If there was DD I could find I would post, however I have not found anything that Noah, raide,r Highwaychild, Pharm, BBabe, or the other good posters have not found and posted.

Yes, I am PRO-CMKX however I understand that there is a rather large risk involved with pink sheets. I wouldn't say what you wrote if CMKX went bankrupt... All I have said is that doesn't it seem odd to find the same people posting about a stock they don't own? That's all...

Wallace (and others) keep posting their 'points'... and as much as I would like to ignore it (WOE FOR THEM WHEN WE GET THAT FEATURE) I can not and will not.

Here are some 'facts'.

No one REALLY know's Wallace...

People have met Urban and Roger Glenn. They are REAL people. They have REAL jobs and are working to make their REAL company a success...

Currently our PPS is between 300% - 400% higher then our 52 week low of .0001 and hit a high of 1200% back in June, simply on NEWS! It still has held at between 300% and 400% of it's run up to 1200%

I am not a Pumper... however I am a shareholder... Something that I know a few posters here can't call themselves... Yet they are here.

Remember, BASHERS ONLY BASH A STOCK THAT IS WORTHWHILE...

-Byrd-

 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
word byrd

Or is it, "Byrd's the wyrd"? heheh

How are you? I hope everything is good!

-John-
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:
I am not fighting NOR am I being 'mean' to anyone...

Remember, BASHERS ONLY BASH A STOCK THAT IS WORTHWHILE...

-Byrd-


GO BYRD...GO CMKX!!!!


 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
NETSEC

I can assure you I AM NOT WALLY...

Infact I think the Universe may rupture on this next part of mine:

The only thing me and WALLY can Agree on is that I am not him and she is not me.

besides you can ask the Admins, they know my IP and it doesn;t much Wally's and I know this for A FACT! ASK BOB FREY IF YOU REALLY THINK THAT.


-John-
 


Posted by user095263 on :
 
rest asyrd that byrds wyrds shall be hyrd.

oh, i couldn't resist. ~BB
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
Betting Babe

The Beautiful Betting Babe...

The Bubbly Betting Babe...

The Byrdie Bettign Babe

(Once you go byrd, you never go back!)
lolol

I couldn't resist either!
-John-
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
netsec,

Although I do disagree with your above statements, in general, I will make every effort to ignore "turds" posts. Sad to say it did not take him long to get back to square one.
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
Wally wrote :

"Square one"

So what, I am not allowed to post ANYTHING that contradicts your opinions? You post something to this board. We are allowed to pick it apart.

If I wanted to pick apart EVERY WORD you write, I can do it and post it as I see fit, provided I am not mean, or callous or whatever you want to call it.

Everytime you post something that I think isn't correct about CMKX or is off-based, YES, I WILL POST A COMMENT.

"Square One" How about 'Circle Two'? Huh!!? What? Hmmmmm?!?!
lol...

This is what 'Square One' is: I WILL COUNTER POST EVERY NEGATIVE POST I FEEL IS BEING CREATED ABOUT CMKX DIAMONDS.

As they wrote on the Atomic Bombs: "HAVE A NICE DAY"

Toodles!

EOM



 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Well then Wallace,since you're here,just anwser some simple questions.What is your take on this here?
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath%3DCOMTEX%5Cbw%5C2004%5C08%5C31%5C30843011.html%26clientid%3D168%26provider%3DBUSINESS_WIRE&symbol=NNOS

---------------------------------------
And this here on CMKM and Rupert Perrin
,from the news story
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2002_Dec_6/ai_94966989
---------------------------------------
Oh yea,and is the sky blue?

Just to see if you can dodge every question.
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:
Dwman Good to be back!

WOW, ALL I AM GOING TO SAY IS WOW...

Wallace#1,

"I’d say you folks have a foul wind blowing and it’s not Jeanne, Ivan or anything natural…but IS man made! And, all three of you bought in to it…known as CMKX. "

Again you try your hardest to discredit this company to me and others. Why are you so involved in this thread? It isn't about discussing the events as your words resonate your deeper meanings with this stock.

The harder you try Wally, the more and more confidant that CMKX is worth much more than it is now. The more your try and steer me or others away, and that is what you are doing by trying to post your opinions, which are that this stock is misleading people and can not be trusted in any way or degree.

Why? Wallace, you have been posting here for almost three months daily. You are not as HEAVILY involved in discussion on ANY OTHER THREAD EXCEPT CMKX... Why?
What other threads do YOU post on a regular basis?

Trust what you say and write or trust CMKX, Roger Glenn a high profile lawyer and Urban who has used his skills to acquire 2 million acres of land and claims...

It doesn't take much skill to aquire mining rights. And URBAN doesn't have 2 mill. acres of land OR claims...

Believe YOU, or THEM?

Certainly NOT you!~

Wallace#1 from a message board or Roger Glenn, who was once a lawyer with the SEC...

Another good reason Urban the manipulator hired him.

Wallace#1 from the Internet... Roger Glenn from the real world.

Oh here we go... the ALA be praised Rodger Glenn bit again.

Wallce#1 who is 80 years old as he says...
Roger Glenn who isn't 80 years old and has closed MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN DEALS...

Jealous?

Wallace#1 who spends his days trying to discredit CMKX on a message board OR[/B]

Wake up and smell the coffee, Wallace is only trying to put a objectional side to this stock as there should be to even this lopsided board out. Why single him out? Cuz he is higher profiled than you?

CMKX Diamonds that own land next to DeBeer's 40-50 BILLION DOLLAR CLIAM...

*CMKX DOES NOT.. (I repeat) NOT OWN LAND & makes a BIG HUGE difference if they MINE!! Otherwise it is only worth about the price of the paper it is printed on.


Wallace#1 who starts posting on the CMKX Allstocks Thread at 11 am and finishes at Midnight...
or
Is there a curfew?

CMKX Diamonds...

Of whom is NON REPORTING, NOT MINING, shall I go on...
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Who should I listen to...

* Obivously MELVIN! lol

In the end you are asking people to trust yourself and ' your research and DD of CMKX'...

Hmmm I never seen him say that.

Versus actually trusting a company that has 2 million acres in mineral claims...

* I think you better do your DD again!
lol, thats a hard choice...

-John-

-John-


[This message has been edited by JBCak47 (edited September 26, 2004).]



 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
It had been real mellow on here till the bryd came back and craaaaaaappppped all over everthing!
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
I think the byrd is one of the Casavant's "family".
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 

Betting Babe I think this is the first time that i've seen you in the cmkx board.
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
rest asyrd that byrds wyrds shall be hyrd.

oh, i couldn't resist. ~BB



 


Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
Or is it on the cmkx board, no matter. I like seeing you on your own web site more anyway.
quote:
Originally posted by DIGDOUGH:

Betting Babe I think this is the first time that i've seen you in the cmkx board.


 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
"Wake up and smell the coffee, Wallace is only trying to put a objectional side to this stock as there should be to even this lopsided board out. Why single him out? Cuz he is higher profiled than you?"

F-L-U-S-H-!

Wake up and smell what I ate for dinner last night...

Wallace=objectional? LOLOL...

Hitler= Nice Tea Party company...

No one is saying to TRUST 'ME'... All I am saying is I trust UC, Roger Glenn and CMKX as a whole MUCH MORE than I trust YOU (will) or Wally... Or anyone else here for that matter...


Jealous? Of Someone who is really successful (Roger Glenn) no, not jealous, HAPPY HE IS ON OUR TEAM!!!

And what of Wallace's credibility? If you take at face value somewone who has repeatedly called CMKX a scam, then claims to buy in at .0001 or has it been so long that we forgot of Wally's magical powers, errrr , should I say 'ability' to get cheap shares?

Lol..

Again, I am not saying you should 'trust me', as Wally has done...

And to the one who called me a Casavant 'family', no I am not, however if I was don't you think I'd have MUCH more ammo to use in my posts, as I would have an Insider's view?

And again Will, up to this point I use to read to what you wrote, however after reading this "Wallace is only trying to put a objectional side to this stock"

Again, no offense Will, but that one has to go F-L-U-S-H...

-Byrd-
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
Trading Penny:

Crapped?

Why because I asked why should people listen to the people who post negatives all day long?

Why, because I made 'points' as to who is Wallace versus who is Roger Glenn and Urban and UCAD?

And the only thing a certain poster could 'prove' me *wrong* about, out of EVERYTHING I listed, was his/her/it's age...


Lol, yes, CMKX is a scam, with ALL THESE companies...lol what a joke...

It is sad because there are a few people who think Qbid is still a scam... lol...

-Byrd-
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
It had been real mellow on here till the bryd came back and craaaaaaappppped all over everthing!

TP
I understand what you are saying, but There is nothing like getting your hands into S**T to bring you back to the reality of life.
I speak as a farmer/gardener.
When this happens a little humor is a welcome commodity which the Byrd does provide.
VAN

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 26, 2004).]
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
Trading Penny:

1. "It doesn't take much skill to aquire mining rights. And URBAN doesn't have 2 mill. acres of land OR claims... "

That's why Debeer's only has 55k acres...

We have 2 Million...

2. "Believe YOU, or THEM?

Certainly NOT you!~ "

Well certainly not you EITHER...

3.What other threads do YOU post on a regular basis?

Qbid, The Dinar Thread, this Thread, IBZT but haven't for a while, USCI...

so let me tell you AGAIN.
1. QBID THREAD
2. USCI THREAD
3. IBZT THREAD
4. CMKX THREAD
5. New Iraqi Dinar THREAD

I only post on the threads I OWN STOCK IN (I CAN'T EMPHASIZE THIS ENOUGH)


4. "Oh here we go... the ALA be praised Rodger Glenn bit again."

First, it's ALLAH... Second he is a good lawyer who has closed MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN DEALS... That speaks for itself.

5. "Jealous?"

Of??? Wally, You, or Roger Glenn? And no I am not jealous,Roger Glenn is helping us out!

6. "*CMKX DOES NOT.. (I repeat) NOT OWN LAND & makes a BIG HUGE difference if they MINE!! Otherwise it is only worth about the price of the paper it is printed on."

PLEASE PROVIDE EITHER LINKS OR DD to this statement.

7. "Is there a curfew?"
That wasen't my point, my point is why does someone post so many messages to a thread they don't own stock in, AND DON'T LIKE THE STOCK?!? Pretty stupid/silly to me... I have never seen Pharm, BB, Trading Wizardress, MYSELF, NOAH, DEBI, Dwman, RadieR or ANY OTHER peeps posting negative opinions AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE...

8."Of whom is NON REPORTING, NOT MINING, shall I go on..."

Go read past PRs Trading PENNY, the reason they hired Roger Glenn is TO HELP MAKE THEM FULLY REPORTING...

Not mining? Notice how the OTHER (UCAD,SGGM,ECT) JV Mining companies are EXPERINCED MINING COMPANIES? HMMMMMMMMMM....

We hold the land, they hold the knowledge...

9. "Hmmm I never seen him say that."

He has when he said "I AM TRYING TO HELP NEW INVESTORS"

10. "* I think you better do your DD again!"

I HAVE. Hence why I am able to counter-point every one of YOUR POINTS...


CMKX IS A STRONG COMPANY...

REMEMBER, B A S H E R S ONLY BASH A COMPANY THAT IS WORTHY OF BASHING...

-Byrd-

P.S. Toodles

[This message has been edited by JBCak47 (edited September 26, 2004).]
 


Posted by brandwilliams on :
 
Well after reading this post by the JB guy...I am all for ignore user option on allstocks.. There are way too many ppl on this board that without haveing any real trading knowledge post numerous times. Anyone and I mean anyone who says CMKX is a strong company has not only so much learning to do, but needs to try to put these type compnanies in perspective. I will ask this question, how long has CMKX with all its alias ticker symbols been in business? How much revenue have they generated over the years? Now after getting a real answer to this question I will go to part two....

Brandon
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by tradingpennys:
[b]It had been real mellow on here till the bryd came back and craaaaaaappppped all over everthing!


TP
I understand what you are saying, but There is nothing like getting your hands into S**T to bring you back to the reality of life.
I speak as a farmer/gardener.
When this happens a little humor is a welcome commodity which the Byrd does provide.
VAN

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 26, 2004).][/B][/QUOTE]

A while back Wallace confided he had a life threatening situation. Byrd took that and wished he was dead. To me that wasn't funny. NOT AT ALL. So anything bashing he does to Wallace from then on isn't funny, humorous or comical to me. I think Byrd/John is ignorant. JUST MY VERY HONEST OPINION.

 


Posted by netsec on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by brandwilliams:
Well after reading this post by the JB guy...I am all for ignore user option on allstocks.. There are way too many ppl on this board that without haveing any real trading knowledge post numerous times. Anyone and I mean anyone who says CMKX is a strong company has not only so much learning to do, but needs to try to put these type compnanies in perspective. I will ask this question, how long has CMKX with all its alias ticker symbols been in business? How much revenue have they generated over the years? Now after getting a real answer to this question I will go to part two....

Brandon


You beat me to it Brandon. "...stong company...". I know we all want to be rich guys, but can't we keep things here with us, in reality and not in fantasy land?
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 

********************

Good news must be close at hand!

It looks like all the bashers are out today, and in full force!

I guess this means NEWS is comming shortly, lol...

=============================================
Brandwilliams...

CMKX IS A LOT STRONGER TODAY then it was when I first bought shares in June.

Revenue from the past? Well what about R-I-G-H-T N-O-W We have taken in over 7.5 Million in cash in the last five weeks, and that is off the top of my head...

So Mr.Williams, what is important is not REVENUE NOW, but revenue in the past?!?

I won't lie I do not have x number of years of trading experince HOWEVER I must question why SO MANY people seem to be SO AGAINST THIS STOCK? Really makes me wonder....

============================================
Trading Penny:

Yes, you are 100% COMPLETELY right, I DID say those things to Wally...

To be honest I don't talk to you or BrandWilliams anyway, so if you ignore me, trust me, I really don't care nor will it bother me as you have had no real contact with me. Iggy me until you turn green. that is your right!

Lol, again, you'd have to accept at face value what Wally has said... So I guess you take those .0001 buys too Lolol!

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-Byrd-
 


Posted by netsec on :
 
Just throwing something out there. I've been doing some research into uranium deposits around the world. Canada and Australia are the biggest contributors with Canada represting about 29% of the current market (from "Resource Stock Investor", pg 13. distributed this past weekend in the "National Post"). A good deal of mined uranium comes from Saskatchewan. I don't know, but with mineral rights to 2million acres UC might have lucked out. We might not find diamonds, but uranium might be in them there hills.

URL's http://www.uic.com.au/nip34.htm
www.cameco.com/uranium_101/ uranium_science/uranium/index.php
http://www.xs4all.nl/~weikamp7/canada.htm

Comments?
 


Posted by will on :
 
So, my fine feathered friend, attacking Wallace is enough for you? You want to start with me?

"And again Will, up to this point I use to read to what you wrote, however after reading this "Wallace is only trying to put a objectional side to this stock""
"No one is saying to TRUST 'ME'... All I am saying is I trust UC, Roger Glenn and CMKX as a whole MUCH MORE than I trust YOU (will) or Wally... Or anyone else here for that matter..."

Do me a favor and repost the post where I said that. I like to see the context of that statement, not deny saying it. Wallace does have right to post his opinions, be them agreeable to you or not. You have a right to answer/counter them. I find somethings Wallace says true and accurate. I find things you say the partyline for the longs here, some true, some wishful conjecture. I even find some of your sick humor hillarious. Urinating on DQR struck me as funny. Wishing death on Wallace was a bit over the top though.
Well, if you want to turn this into a real circus, just say the word, and I will be happy to accommodate you.

[This message has been edited by will (edited September 26, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by will (edited September 26, 2004).]
 


Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Hi Noah and Byrd, TW and MP, Upside, -I read just this one page and it was enough. I posted on the ignore feature and Glass jumped down my throat. First post in a week and less than a minute later he is being nasty. This board has been so hijacked.

So much for welcoming differing opinions with an open mind. Byrd and Noah-I wrote you both a PM on board 32 but capitalized Noah and it didn't post and I lost it. So I will put it up again in about 20 minutes or so. -Debi
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
Will,

ERRRRRRRRR I am NOT attacking you. I do not wish to attack you. In fact why would I? I did not agree with something you wrote.

All I am trying to say is that I'd rather trust UC AND CMKX versus Wally...

-Byrd-


 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
"This board has been so hijacked"

Hijacked isn't the word...
 


Posted by will on :
 
OK buddy, I try to stay neutral regarding you and Wallace. Disagreeing with what I wrote is cool. I don't know sh|t from shinola about this stock. I just know what I see missing from them, and I don't accept the premise that thay have to keep things to themselves to fullfill the "Master Plan", the ever evolving "Master Plan".
quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:
Will,

ERRRRRRRRR I am NOT attacking you. I do not wish to attack you. In fact why would I? I did not agree with something you wrote.

All I am trying to say is that I'd rather trust UC AND CMKX versus Wally...

-Byrd-



 


Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
Byrd,

You're a breath of fresh air. Well, maybe not fresh air. This board has been a joke. The bashers have taken over and Noahlt, though doing a great job, has been overwhelmed with defending the facts.

Since I work too damn much, I don't have time to point..counter point....so I log on, read a few pages and leave. I also follow about 4 other boards. This one facinates me in that there are quite a few posters that rag day and night about how bad this stock is, claim they don't own it, nor woudl own it, but have a duty to warn us poor, unsuspecting lambs. Then talk about their buy in a .0001, which I doubt.

Although you do tend to go over the deep end at times, your wrath is welcome. Wow, I may have to come back and read this more often.

Notice how Wally doesn't respond, but rather some of his faithful followers. Talk about "Droids"...no,no...that's us, we'll call them "Voids", I for one, would like to know who this Wallace#1 is and what his claim to fame is.

Every point you posted about Wally earlier was valid. Every counter point that was in his defense, from others I might ad, was a joke. These people have no substance.

You may be a bit crude and rude, but you have substance.....Byrd-Turds to you....

back to Work....
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Allstocks...what hast thou wrought? LOL
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WorkAHolic:
Byrd,

You're a breath of fresh air. Well, maybe not fresh air. This board has been a joke. The bashers have taken over and Noahlt, though doing a great job, has been overwhelmed with defending the facts. .......................

These people have no substance.

You may be a bit crude and rude, but you have substance.....Byrd-Turds to you....

back to Work....


LOL that is funny-- defending the facts.....LOL

no substance....LOL

this is better than the comedy channel
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Glass,

Funny you should mention the "comedy channel". I was just watching WFV (World's Funniest Videos). This is better by far.
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:
Hi Noah and Byrd, TW and MP, Upside, -I read just this one page and it was enough. I posted on the ignore feature and Glass jumped down my throat. First post in a week and less than a minute later he is being nasty. This board has been so hijacked.

So much for welcoming differing opinions with an open mind. Byrd and Noah-I wrote you both a PM on board 32 but capitalized Noah and it didn't post and I lost it. So I will put it up again in about 20 minutes or so. -Debi



Debi
Don't let glass keep you away. We love you here.
Don

 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
And now a commercial break before we return you to another episode of
AS FOR DIAMONDS WE YEARN
we have it all facts,fiction,deception ,denial,proven,unproven,fantasy ,reality,personal attacks,age attacks,name calling,love,hatred,joy,dispair
DREAMS OR BROKEN DREAMS
STAY TUNED AS WE ALL WAIT FOR THE PERSON THAT KNOWS THE TRUTH GOD. NO NOT GOD, MR. DIAMOND MAN HIMSELF THE RINGMASTER CASAVANT

HAVE a laugh keep smiling and GOOD LUCK


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Yep.And this is where we're talking about.
http://www.casavantmining.com/locations.asp

Kind of puts a new spin on 'Sub-Penny Land',dosen't it?.LOL

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Posted by netsec on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
Yep.And this is where we're talking about.
http://www.casavantmining.com/locations.asp

Kind of puts a new spin on 'Sub-Penny Land',dosen't it?.LOL

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited September 26, 2004).]


Anyone find it a little weird that under the "Contact Us" link on the casavantmining.com website that the "Management" link still says "Coming Soon" when they've filled out almost everything else on this site? You'd figure this would be one of the easiest pages to fill out.


 


Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
LOL that is funny-- defending the facts.....LOL

no substance....LOL

this is better than the comedy channel


Hey Glassman..who pulled your chain? I don't remember your name being mentioned in this...buy...hmmm...maybe implied. The comedy channel has nothing on you. It's gotten to be a real joke with you guys.


 


Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Glass,

Funny you should mention the "comedy channel". I was just watching WFV (World's Funniest Videos). This is better by far.



Wally,
I don't for one minute think that you would take off enough time from bashing this stock to watch anything. You may want to watch the new show out..."Lost" if you can find the time.

The only thing you can be thankful for after all of your dogging of the stock, stockholders and priciples, is that maybe you did sneak in some shares for yourself.
If you were smart.


 


Posted by Esteban on :
 
Does anyone know if CMKX owns only the mineral rights for diamonds or does their lease include all minerals. Also, how long does their lease last without drilling / mining?
Steve
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
cmkx has rights to all minerals but those rights are split 6 ways, ucad, sggm, kpg, uca, cmkx & shane

byrd glad your back hope you can keep from name calling. also forget rich, start thinking nice profit. i'm sure buy holding for a couple of yrs a very good profit might be had but rich from a few million shares is long gone. any good discovery will increase the pps but with 800 billion o/s and that comes from the ucad split not guess work, even if it is a 100 billion less with it all being divided up 6 ways they can't find, mine or sell enough of any mineral, diamond or prescious jewel to get anyone rich off a few million shares. just not going to happen. maybe the pps would hit $1 but only after at least a 1/8,000 r/s or 125 shares left from 1,000,000. i'm sure one day they will find huge amounts of diamonds but the o/s kills any hope of rich just plain stock market 101 facts
 


Posted by will on :
 
This question was posted for over an hour, and bill gave it a partial answer.
What's the problems guys? Wasn't it framed in the form of an insult, so y'all ignore it?
I'll take a stab. CMKX owns all mineral rights of their claims. Regarding the duration of the calims, I heard useless Melvin say two years. What constitutes working a claim I don't know, probably $ spent in an effort to mine, not even sure if they have to drill. When Melvin said two years, I recall he later contradicted himself, and others had varying opinions.

quote:
Originally posted by Esteban:
Does anyone know if CMKX owns only the mineral rights for diamonds or does their lease include all minerals. Also, how long does their lease last without drilling / mining?
Steve

[This message has been edited by will (edited September 26, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
If anyone on this board has or had UCAD in your account, please let Debi know over at CT. Lists are being compiled for the company.
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
This question was posted for over an hour, and bill gave it a partial answer.
What's the problems guys? Wasn't it framed in the form of an insult, so y'all ignore it?
I'll take a stab. CMKX owns all mineral rights of their claims. Regarding the duration of the calims, I heard useless Melvin say two years. What constitutes working a claim I don't know, probably $ spent in an effort to mine, not even sure if they have to drill. When Melvin said two years, I recall he later contradicted himself, and others had varying opinions.

[This message has been edited by will (edited September 26, 2004).]


They have to be doing/have done something on the land after aquiring the claim. Be it sampling, mining and the like. It can't just sit.

 


Posted by Royals on :
 
I see it didn't take long for this JBCAK47 clown to start up with the personal attacks. Allstocks banded you not the ones you try to belittle. Stick to the stock.Your running smack here is old.
 
Posted by is300 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
If anyone on this board has or had UCAD in your account, please let Debi know over at CT. Lists are being compiled for the company.

Yeah ok geee I got free money now let me tell you so it can be taken away.

Dumb and Dumber heh
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
9:29 -

Lets get ready to rumble ----
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Compared to other days that opened on very high and rapidly increasing vol, today seems a bit slow. Perhaps the MMs hearts are not in it anymore. Staying long.
 
Posted by DeadSurf on :
 
hey isn't this what we've all been waiting for...was melvin right or what??? lol
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=753&e=1&u=/ap/20040927/ap_on_sc/st__helens_quakes
 
Posted by DeadSurf on :
 
"The key issue is a small explosion without warning. That would be the major event that we're worried about right now," said Willie Scott, a geologist with the USGS (news - web sites) office in Vancouver.

that guy must be a MM not a shareholder!
but we all want the big explosion right?
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
WOW!!!! Almost no trading for several minutes.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by is300:
Yeah ok geee I got free money now let me tell you so it can be taken away.

Dumb and Dumber heh


Is, sure appreciate the dumb and dumber remarks. Now let's see who it applies to. Do you really not think that the people that put it there know who they gave it to? When they want to, they will take it away. Your best shot at making that little bit of stock worth something is to help those who are trying to help this stock. Personal bashing like you are doing will only line you up with the other bashers here who can't come up with any negative DD on this stock and continue to bash individuals.

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 27, 2004).]
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Noah, if you recall, is300 just recently came to this board as a new member. He came bashing. His first post was a bash. I challenge him to produce on positive post. There are several others here who post the negative side of things but are not bashers. They are realists. The distinguishing characteristic is, that they also post positive things as they see them. Sadly, guys like is300 don't seem to understand how strong the longs here are long. No amount of pure bashing will achieve their goal. I hope they are paid enough by the MMs to salve their concience when they lay their head on their pillow at night.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
if they ever do give out ucad dividend according to the pr last week we will know the complete o/s as it states ucad is adding a few shares so that all cmkx shareholders can get shares

the time line of this whole thing does not sit well. first the announcment of the deal

CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Dividend to Shareholders of Record Date and Option Agreement
July 18, 2004 04:47:00 AM ET


CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) is pleased to have reached a purchase agreement with U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. (OTC BB:UCAD) to which U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. will be purchasing 5% of all mineral claims held by CMKM Diamonds, Inc. in exchange for 7.5 million shares of UCAD. CMKM Diamonds, Inc. will later issue these shares to all shareholders of record on August 20, 200


this gives both cmkx & ucad 1 month to get everything in place. then we find out through shareholder investigation that the a/s is raised 300 billion shares on the 18th of sept. the otc has a post saying the split is 15.5 per million which translates to a 483 billion o/s. next the otc changes the split to match the new 800 billion a/s. we wont even get into the new CIM split saying a 1.6 trillion o/s next 2 mm's disappear nite & jeff. then we get this pr the day the dividend is to be paid

Rendall Williams, CEO of UCAD, stated, "Through the suggestion of management of CMKX and their corporate attorney, D. Roger Glenn, UCAD's management has agreed to issue additional shares for the round-up process for this distribution. UCAD has agreed to issue additional shares so all CMKX shareholders can take part in this distribution." Williams continued, "The relationship with CMKX shareholders is a welcome addition to our new family."

it seems as if cmkx is letting the mm's off the hook for any naked shorts, just absorbing them at no reward for the rest of the shareholders. as there is no way to cover restricted shares by mm's they were given time to try & cover and then cmkx needed time to go through the books and find all shares, ucad adds a few shares and everything is included. ucad & cmkx had 1 month from 20 aug to 24 sept to get books in order and 2 months to figure everything out from announcment to pay date. its fair to naked shares but it kills all shares as it allows the mm's to dilute the stock about 70% if thats what the 300 billion are for. this is just theory but it also fits the very few facts we have

[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited September 27, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited September 27, 2004).]
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:

it seems as if cmkx is letting the mm's off the hook for any naked shorts, just absorbing them at no reward for the rest of the shareholders. as there is no way to cover restricted shares by mm's they were given time to try & cover and then cmkx needed time to go through the books and find all shares, ucad adds a few shares and everything is included. ucad & cmkx had 1 month from 20 aug to 24 sept to get books in order and 2 months to figure everything out from announcment to pay date. its fair to naked shares but it kills all shares as it allows the mm's to dilute the stock about 40% if thats what the 300 billion are for. this is just theory but it also fits the very few facts we have

[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited September 27, 2004).]


Some good points there, bill. However, it is hard for me to understand why they would reward the MMs and not the shareholders who have faithfully hung in there.


 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
Royal:

"I see it didn't take long for this JBCAK47 clown to start up with the personal attacks. Allstocks banded you not the ones you try to belittle. Stick to the stock.Your running smack here is old."

PLEASE POST ANY MESSAGES FROM THE PAST THREE DAYS OF WHEN I 'ATTACKED' SOMEONE!?

Funny that the majority of the people who own stock, or say they do, have no problem about me being here except for me to watch my mouth, which I said I would...


Funny that the people who DON'T own stock are the one's saying 'I ATTACKED PEOPLE' yesterday...

Bashers trying to get me banned??? Wouldn't be the first time...
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WORK A HOLIC


Thank you... Again, notice how they are ALL working together? And notice how they people who don't own anystock are the majority of people who want me 'OUT'? Why because I question CERTAIN NAMELESS POSTERS on this thread?

This thread has become a joke... There are about three to four active bashers on this thread with another two subtle bashers...

VERY, VERY SAD...

-John-
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i agree dw...the truth is there is no way to beat the mm's. there are lawsuits but any lawyer can stretch that out yrs and cost more then the loss in pps. the lawsuit could bankrupt a company. say you have solid fact and the mm's want to settle what do you do with the naked shareholders? they just lose out? or maybe they get everything they invested back. how do you determine any profit they might have made on the stock? the SEC? they will just fine or suspend the mm's licsence for a while as a full blown scandal would seriously hurt the market and expose the corrupt DTC. the powers that be won't let that happen
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
[Bthey will just fine or suspend the mm's licsence for a while as a full blown scandal would seriously hurt the market and expose the corrupt DTC. the powers that be won't let that happen[/B]

I think you hit the nail squarly on the head here bill. I have never felt that Roger was "going to teach the MMs a lesson". I'm quite sure that as long as he has been doing this kind of work, he has used them many times in legal activities that they perform. Market makers are the predominat reason that 1929 situations haven't happened again. We all need them. We just want them to be ethical.

 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Who has recent L2 data showing which MMs are at work. My fidelity vol shows a negative 2 billion plus. I wonder what that means. Is that, as some have suggested, a correction to erroneous vol posts?
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
dw, everyone here could be holding naked shares, even those of us who bought months ago. I wouldn't want to miss my divy, and it's obvious that UC and Roger do not want the shareholders punished, and they don't want to give the MMs a chance to tie this thing up in court. Imagine if 20 or 30 thousand shareholders suddenly discovered that they were not getting the shares. This thing would be tied up in courts forever, as no one can determine if their shares are naked or not. Some of these shares have been traded a hundred times since last year. There is no way to trace them all the way back to their fraudulent issuance.

The MM's would love to get this thing into court so that they can settle up with a flat amount. If they tried to cover by buying up the naked shares, the pps would take off and go out of reach, so the courts are the best place for them to resolve it.
Roger knows this, so he is taking steps to resolve this outside of the court's jurisdicton IMO. That is why we really can't object to some maneuvers on his part. Just know from JEFF's retirement last week, and Friday's PR, that he is doing something. If we could figure that out exactly, we wouldn't need him. My best guess is that he is dealing with some old friends in the SEC so that this can be resolved in the best interests of the shareholders, company, government, and the financial health of the market in general.
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
I fully agree Noah.
 
Posted by Pappy on :
 
ETADE SHOWS 2,260,646,625
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
the only problem with that noah is us...the cmkx shareholder, both real & naked. the dilution factor is huge. 6 companies have a stake in this property which dilutes the possible income then dilute cmkx's share with 800 billion more or less shares. it takes a company with bright possibilitys and crushes that to possible ok profits for shareholders
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i'm wondering what happened with gemm. no word on if cmkx got the other 24% or the dividend pay date which was to be oct. 1st
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
Noah, if you recall, is300 just recently came to this board as a new member. He came bashing. His first post was a bash. I challenge him to produce on positive post. There are several others here who post the negative side of things but are not bashers. They are realists. The distinguishing characteristic is, that they also post positive things as they see them. Sadly, guys like is300 don't seem to understand how strong the longs here are long. No amount of pure bashing will achieve their goal. I hope they are paid enough by the MMs to salve their concience when they lay their head on their pillow at night.


Dw, we undoubtedly have paid bashers here. I'm not going to get into naming them. But we also have some other kind of negative posters here. They are people who just enjoy arguing, or if you want to give it some legitimacy, "debating". I guess I'm one of those myself, on the positive side. And there is nothing wrong with debate over a stock, as long as it remains civil and professional.

IMO, the problems begin when one side or the other cannot provide DD or evidence in support of their position. Then personal opinion takes over. When a poster is questioned about his personal opinion, then personal bashing starts. It has happened over and over here.

There has been a debate going on about putting in an "ignore" button, on another thread, to try and deal with the problems we have had here. Even a thread to resolve them broke down into argument and personal bashing.

Some weeks back, Tamie started a positive thread that was supposed to be about DD only. That one broke down, and the bashing on that thread drove Tamie to sell out her position, at least according to her post about it.

It seems to me that what we need is two threads, one on the positive side and one on the negative side of any stock that has the volatility of a CMKX or a QBID. And the mods should quickly bounce anyone who tries to come down on the other side. This would allow both sides of the story to be told without the ongoing fighting that always occurs. It's obvious that any thread where both sides are being presented, will break down into fighting and name calling.

We have lost a lot of good people who used to post here, because of the fighting. We all will lose because of their departure. Most recently we have lost Debi. She is a fine Christian woman, and an informed investor, but coming here tests her faith inspired patience. So she now shares her investment acumen with others, at other boards.

I stayed away some this weekend because of the negative atmosphere. I spend a lot more time now on other boards because the mods there do not tolerate any bashing of the stock. They tolerate differing positions and even negative posts that are supported by DD. But when things start to get out of hand, the offenders are shown the door.

So enough of this. Once again I am wasting thread space that should be dedicated to the stock, and not to fighting about the stock and the posters.


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i do agree to a point noah. many in here just call each other names and make stuff up. but both positive & negitive are guilty. positive ppl dismiss facts as bashing and negitive dismiss the possibilities are fake. example and i'm not trying to argue, you stated that cmkx had owned 100% of these claims minus the 15% to ucad & 5% to sggm. when prs from the past state differant. i can't find a way to go back past june but this pr states there are 5 companies involved and this is before sggm

CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Converges on Saskatchewan Drill Target
August 05, 2004 01:51:00 AM ET


CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) has received all necessary drilling permits and Surface Exploration Permits to mobilize its drilling equipment to a new site located approximately 5 miles northwest of Kensington-DeBeers Kimberlite 122 and 6 1/2 miles northwest of Shore Gold Inc.'s Star Diamond Project in the Forte a La Corne, Saskatchewan. The drill site partnership includes Shane Resources (SEI.H-)CDNX, United Carina Resources Corp. (UCA.)CDNX, Consolidated Pine Channel Gold Corp. (KPG) CDNX, and U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. UCAD. All the partners shall have representation at the drill site at time of drilling. As with all CMKX drill sites, CEO and President Urban Casavant has ordered this drilling project to be video recorded for the CMKX website for viewing to the CMKX shareholders.

where shane came in i missed but it was known that ucad, kpg, uca & cmkx had 25% each. there are things cmkx needs to keep quiet because of differant reasons but they do keep things that effect honest shareholder descions quiet. this just fuels the negitive side to yell scam & the positive to defend themselves. it has taken all the possibilities of cmkx and tarnished them to no end. add cars, credit cards, mismanagment, mm manipulation and all you have is a mess that no lawyer can really get back to the possibilities cmkx had 18 months ago
 


Posted by user095263 on :
 
is300.. i hope you get your butt kicked off this board and back to whatever the internet was before al gore invented it.

truly sick, man.
~BB

 


Posted by dwman on :
 
is300
It may be true that Noah is in a wheel chair. I don't know. What I do know though is that it takes a pretty cold hearted person to post as you did.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ditto bettin babe & dw... is300 only a punk acts as you do

[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited September 27, 2004).]
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by is300:
nahhh you are just some criple in a wheelchair that society rejects so you come here 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Hoping and praying that this thing isn't a scam and will be the one gem to turn around your useless life.. thats why you are here all day ignoring plain facts and pumping away ..... trolling every single cmkx message board posting any nonsense someone types onto here. choo choo

Well now aren't you pathetic? You acuse Noah of trolling yet you certainly didn't miss his post. Doing a bit of trolling yourself is? Kinda hypocritical isn't it?


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
these bashers must be flamin liberals...they feel the need to protect us dumb a** shareholders from ourselves
 
Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
IS300 is just another odious and obnoxious little P***k who would never say such a thing in real time for fear of getting a wheelchair rolled all up IN his trashy ass
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
these bashers must be flamin liberals...they feel the need to protect us dumb a** shareholders from ourselves

LOL. So true bill. They probably helped Al Gore invent the internet.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Noahltl wrote:

Personal bashing like you are doing will only line you up with the other bashers here who can't come up with any negative DD on this stock and continue to bash individuals.
Also wrote:
everyone here could be holding naked shares
Also wrote:
Just know from JEFF's retirement last week, and Friday's PR, that he is doing something. If we could figure that out exactly, we wouldn't need him.
---------------------------------------------

Negative DD (aka FACTS), is about all anyone can come up with. There is almost nothing except BS “trust” and “faith” otherwise.

Told you folks that a long time ago re holding naked shares

UC needed him (Glenn), not the “we” you referred to.

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Dwman wrote:
However, it is hard for me to understand why they would reward the MMs and not the shareholders who have faithfully hung in there.

Don’t you get it dwman? They do not give a damn about the shareholders!!! That should be obvious by now to anyone of “faith”.

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Bill1352 wrote:
“the lawsuit could bankrupt a company”

Bill, for all anyone knows, CMKX could be BK already. And, I think you are 100% right as to what the SEC may or may not do concerning punishment or fine…probably equivalent to a minor slap.
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is300 wrote:
nahhh you are just some criple in a wheelchair that society rejects so you come here 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
--------------------------------

is300, noahltl, is very much biased when it comes to CMKX and does not admit to there being MANY facts that completely obliterate his (and WWJD’s) fanatical position on CMKX.

However, I DO TAKE EXCEPTION TO YOUR ABOVE COMMENT!!!!!!!!!
It was WRONG and you owe him an apology.

PS: Please do not lower yourself to someone Allstocks has recently permitted back on this thread.

I am out of here for now.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 27, 2004).]
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Justhis1ce:
IS300 is just another odious and obnoxious little P***k who would never say such a thing in real time for fear of getting a wheelchair rolled all up IN his trashy ass

My vote for post of the day!!!!! LOL



 


Posted by valves on :
 
I wouldn't waste my time arguing with the likes of this is300 person, so I will respond to the others.

What is always the funniest thing about these type of people is that they are the ones who probably weigh 110 wet and wouldn't have the guts to talk any trash to anyone if face to face. So BB getting his butt kicked off the site or just getting his butt kick is inevitable.

I won't respond to his posts that follow and waste anymore bandwidth but know that if we met he would be silenced if that wheelchair comment was made in my vicinity.


-Ken

[This message has been edited by valves (edited September 27, 2004).]
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Oh come on Wally! We know you are not out of here. We have grown acustomed to your being here. Truely, you are one of the more likable bashers on this board.
 
Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
IS300:

"nahhh you are just some criple in a wheelchair that society rejects so you come here 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Hoping and praying that this thing isn't a scam and will be the one gem to turn around your useless life.. thats why you are here all day ignoring plain facts and pumping away ..... trolling every single cmkx message board posting any nonsense someone types onto here. choo choo"

WIPE... WIPE...

PLUNK.

WIPE... WIPE...

PLUNK.


------F-L-U-S-H ---------

EOM.


 


Posted by GHOST on :
 
IS300:
That has to be the COLDEST reply
I've ever heard or read on this board.
Be careful what you say and DO!
It could come back on you ten fold!!!
I've seen it happen time and time again!
UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GHOST:
IS300:
That has to be the COLDEST reply
I've ever heard or read on this board.
Be careful what you say and DO!
It could come back on you ten fold!!!
I've seen it happen time and time again!
UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!

Ghost...Interesting that you gave that warning. Earlier, I started to tell is300 that when I was a kid, my mother gave me that advice more than once and that was many years ago. I hope that is300 did not really mean what he said. Some people have trouble measuring their words when their emotions are running high. JMO


 


Posted by will on :
 
Now now, noah! If I recall there was more reason then this "Some weeks back, Tamie started a positive thread that was supposed to be about DD only. That one broke down, and the bashing on that thread drove Tamie to sell out her position, at least according to her post about it.", that caused Tamie to sell.
I'm too lazy to go find her post, but if you take the time to look it up, and put her whole post here, and not take her out of context, I'm sure you will find more reason(s).
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
there are no emotions involved with is300...just a punk with no life
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
Will, I think I remember her post too. If I recall correctly, cmkx was trading down amidst the bashing that was ongoing and she made an assessment that she was going to get out before it went to the bottom or something to that effect. I think she was strongly influenced by bashers and that's too bad IMO.
Don
 
Posted by will on :
 
is 300, get your mouth shut punk, right now. Move on!
 
Posted by will on :
 
Nah, there was more to it than that, I think. Like I said, I'm too lazy to check. She might have been influenced by a negative, but not just a basher. The negative that influenced her might have been true, or perceived a tipping point for her, but it wasn't because people were just bashing, she interpreted it as something decisive for her.

quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
Will, I think I remember her post too. If I recall correctly, cmkx was trading down amidst the bashing that was ongoing and she made an assessment that she was going to get out before it went to the bottom or something to that effect. I think she was strongly influenced by bashers and that's too bad IMO.
Don


 


Posted by rde3 on :
 
you people suck !


 


Posted by Binky on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bill1352:
I can't find a way to go back past june but this pr states there are 5 companies involved and this is before sggm

--------------------------------------

Hi Bill

Try this site
http://www.findarticles.com

Try typing in Casavant Mining or the other company names. Also good for searching peoples names in PR.s

GLTU Binky

 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rde3:
you people suck !



rde3...what was that all about? We are just having a discussion during a slow thread day.

 


Posted by will on :
 
Melvin in one of his paltalk visits said the only office he knew of was in Urban's home.
That's what did it for Tamie:

Tamie
Member posted September 01, 2004 10:12
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
well I hate to say it but with all this uncertainty circling this stock I do not feel secure holding any stocks in it. I am going to sell what I am holding today. As a business owner there are things you do and dont do and to me a corporate headquarters being casavants home is a definite no no. IMO. Just seems to me that we are financing his extra curricular activity at this point. If things were to change and they were to become fully reporting it would be different. but at this point they have no one to answer to.

Tamie
Member posted September 01, 2004 10:52
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I think you can buy all the cmkx you want but you cant sell it....at least I havent been able to yet
[This message has been edited by Tamie (edited September 01, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by will (edited September 27, 2004).]
 


Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
dw-----save your bandwith old son, he was just another miserable little pubic hair on the public urinal that is his life that got p***ed off
 
Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
dw-----save your bandwith old son, he was just another miserable little pubic hair on the public urinal that is his life that got p***ed off
 
Posted by will on :
 
Interesting looking back, lol.
I glanced over the big "quiet period" debate, that turned out to be nothing too. The biggest proponent of that theory here never mentioned it again when that nonsense didn't happen.
 
Posted by will on :
 
So, dw, noah, it wasn't a basher, it was Melvin himself that gave Tamie the news that tipped her to sell.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
thanks binky...i found it but it costs to get & since its not a question in my mind I'm not paying..lol it was from a pr dated
September 26, 2003
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
So, dw, noah, it wasn't a basher, it was Melvin himself that gave Tamie the news that tipped her to sell.


Will, I'm sure you know about the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back.


 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
Nice a lot of you are backing NOAH. My bet he is enough of a man wheel chair or not to completely ignore this kind of stupidity. I'm surprised Bob Frey hasn't stepped in on this yet. And that's another thing: I must be one of the lucky ones ,but I have never received a bill for this site. I know it has gone down hill and maybe they are working on it also; I think if it was me me I would charge by the pound for BS.
VAN
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
you really cant find fault in getting out, way to much shady things done by cmkx. those of us that hold either need a big score badly or have a higher risk threashhold. personally i only bet football with parley cards so that shows you both my gambling nature and brain damage as i won zero times last yr and once this yr..lol
 
Posted by will on :
 
You're assuming that, noah. Her post seemed pretty clear to me that a home office was her MAJOR, reason.

quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:

Will, I'm sure you know about the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back.



 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Will,

Guess noahltl just made an inaccurate observation re CMKX, Tamie and this thread.
---------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------
noahltl wrote:
Dw, we undoubtedly have paid bashers here. I'm not going to get into naming them.
---------------------------------------------
Why not, noahltl? Name just 1 and then provide the unquestionable proof. You know you cannot! That is because they, in all likelihood, do not exist on this thread.

By the way, noahltl, since is300 was not big enough to send you apologies for his comment, I will. I am sorry for his extremely insensitive words.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 27, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
is300. I wasn't going to waste my time responding to you, but reconsidered. That kind of hatred is not something you developed in your few days here as is300. You developed it here as rchaud98, then secman, and now is300. You really have a problem that you should seek some professional help with. I'm not saying that as a bash but as a fellow human being.

Secondly, I don't measure my worth by my mobility, nor do most of the people that I have real contact with.

I am not paraplegic, at least not yet. I can walk a few feet and stand for a few minutes. I can still drive my vehicle after I get to it. So my problems are not as great as many of the handicapped and disabled people that I work with as a volunteer.

I really didn't feel the need to share this with the entire board, but your post has brought it front and center. I only mentioned that I spend most of my day in a wheel chair because I was questioned as to my intentions since I am online most of the day. But when I am not here, I am answering phone calls from people in real need. Or driving one of them to the doctor or for groceries etc. If not that, I may be with a government official, social worker, or a representative from a chruch or another charitable organization.

So,no I don't consider myself worthless, or a cripple. I am interested in this stock, and if it does fly, most of that money will be used to help those in much worse condition than myself.

Is, get some help. Seriously.

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited September 27, 2004).]
 


Posted by netsec on :
 
Hey Wallace#1, this has been bugging me for awhile now, I for the most part don't agree with Noah or JBCak when they start ranting about all the postive things do to with CMKX, but I know they own the stock, I can therefore see where they are coming from.

It is just hard for me to fathom why you post on this thread. I can see posting a couple of times to add your 2 cents but to continually post when you have no vested interest in the stock lends to the notion that you have some ulterior reason for being here. Quite frankly I don't believe in the whole "paid basher" myth but you come close on some days in my opionion of proving there is meat behind the myth. I know you have said in the past that you want to help "newbies" but it seems for the most part you are here solely to disagree with anything postive written by share holders about the stock. They might be dreaming but at least you know where they are coming from.

This is just my opionion from watching you post here for the last few months.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
With the above post, I think it is prudent for me to take a leave from this thread for awhile. If not, the bashers will use it to further bash me personally. If any here are interested in anything I post, I will be over at the Christian Traders board with Debi and some others that have already bailed here. Bahers; I'm not running away, believe me I would rather stay here and butt heads with you all day. But when me, and my personal situation becomes the subject here, instead of CMKX, it is time to take my leave. Hopefully Allstocks will come up with a way to prevent what has happened here for months, from happening again. When they do, I will probably come back, just like a "bad penny". LOL GOT CMKX?
 
Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
Justice... lololol....

-John-
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
Noah, I understand what you are saying...

This thread is teeming with them...


-Byrd-
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Justhis1ce:
dw-----save your bandwith old son, he was just another miserable little pubic hair on the public urinal that is his life that got p***ed off

I guess I have to say you should share the post of the day award with, I believe, Will.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
netsec,

The problem with CMKX is that there are few if any positive things about it to post. The few positive things existing have been redundantly posted time after time. On the other hand, they (CMKX) keep doing (and not doing) one stupid fact after another. Further, there are far more protagonists on this thread than so-called bashers or negative posters.

That, basically, is why I cannot say anything positive about CMKX. As a result of all those numerous opposing facts, I do feel they must be presented...and they have been many times. Not just by me, but also by others, including CMKX shareholders. Some seem to want them reposted time after time. They know what said opposing facts are and cannot provide any logical defense whatsoever. Further, I don't much care if anyone calls me a basher. If CMKX is not a scam, it certainly bears all the earmarks of one. For your and others' sakes, I hope it is not. I cannot fathom how all the opposing facts can so easily be ignored or spun.

I have owned CMKX and I have sold CMKX. To me, it is simply just another stock where I may or may not be able to make money. I never "fall in love" with any stock".

I think a lot of newbies here have been sucked into buying CMKX as a result of some of the major posters here and on other boards...and that, as far as I am concerned, is a disservice. Readers should at least be able to consider dissenting points of view. Although many holders of CMKX on this thread consider that negative, I do not. I take a strictly objective approach.

As far as I can determine with valid DD and logical observations of CMKX convolutions and activities, the only thing CMKX has going for it is a remote possibility of finding diamonds...and they seem to be doing little or nothing to advance that objective.
In reality, they seem to be doing everything other than finding diamonds. You know those facts as well.

As far as whatever time I spend on this thread is concerned, if you count the number of my posts vs those of others, you will find that others post much, much more than I do. No offense to him, but noahltl is a very good example...and I do not blame him for posting his views. How in hell do you think there will be a forum with exchanges of facts, ideas, theories and opinions if there are no dissenting (positive or negative) points of view?

Another reason I post here is because I find the thought processes both fascinating and interesting...and in many cases comical (with the exception of one or more posters). In many ways, this is truly the blind leading the blind...and, in real life, even the blind do a better job of it. No offense to anyone, but it is quite obvious that the majority of posters here, and who are also CMKX shareholders, have little experience.

Enough for now. Got to get back to bashing. LOL
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
wallace what would be a stock that you seem to like??
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
wallace i do agree with a lot in that last post and yes reading some of the drug induced theories from other boards is entertaining. i'm a problem solver by nature and in my job so with all involved around cmkx i find trying to piece things together interesting. but i own cmkx and any newbies that come in here will see all the bad and the little good points from mine and a few other shareholders posts. if you read my posts (i'll only speak for myself) you won't find any pie-in-the-sky dreams. if fact i've stated that if it wasn't for 2 or 3 points i'd say it was a scam too. i'm not alone in this. you of course have every right to be here & post here but you have to accept that if a person only posts bad with no hope or positive & doesn't own shares, the only word that comes to mind is basher. i'm just stating my opinion not trying to fight or argue and no offense is intended.
 
Posted by Money_Penny on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
I take a strictly objective approach.

No offense Wally but calling CMKX a "SCAM" without having irrefutable proof is not being objective. I just thought I had to say that and now I'll go back into stealth mode.

[This message has been edited by Money_Penny (edited September 27, 2004).]
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
I just want to say since there is no proof either way to bash or pump this stock is not good. just need to wait and see what happens. name calling is kind of dumb since no one knows anything other than facts that have come out through pr's the only problem the pr's dont always say alot and pumpers and bashers are trying too hard to read between the lines when there probably isnt anything to read in there. for the most part the prs have been good not great enough to pump and not bad enough to bash. oh well hope this one unfolds someday hopefully before 2008 as I predicted or the nonsence will continue.
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Melvin in one of his paltalk visits said the only office he knew of was in Urban's home.
That's what did it for Tamie:

Tamie
Member posted September 01, 2004 10:12


--------------
When I heard that news, I was taken aback too.

 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Noahltl,

Get your butt back here and fight like a man against offensive remarks such as made by is300. You are not the first and will not be the last to whom such things happen.

Yes, he was wrong. Just as wrong as you and
others were when you began your personal
attacks against me. Just as you and others were when you questioned my handicap. Just as wrong as you and others were when you questioned my Wall Street experience and my having worked at the NYSE. Just as wrong as you and others were when you questioned my honesty, integrity and credibility.
Not one of those things had anything to do with CMKX. And, having to do with CMKX, just as wrong as when you, Debi, Upside and others questioned my purchase of CMKX at .0001.

Most, including yourself, just added to fuel to the fire or even started the fires. Now, you are running off like a dog with it’s tail between his legs? Now you know what a small part of what you, Debi, JBCak,and many others did and you cannot take it? You got
your handicap attacked once. I got mine attacked at least five times, had my life threatened twice, was wished dead a few times, had my wife insulted, had my mother insulted and had a dauther that died insulted.

I may disagree with you, but I think you have more in you than hiding out on a thread where you will get little more than 100% agreement.

Although I would prefer it otherwise, you don’t have to like me and I don’t have to like you. Stop being a whining wimp and get back here and give me some challenges. If I could take all I got shoveled in my face in the past, you sure as hell should be able to as well.

Kind regards...and NO OFFENSE INTENDED
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Money_Penny,

As I just previously stated, CMKX has all the earmarks of a SCAM as I know a SCAM.
I don't recall specifically saying CMKX is a SCAM. I did, however, use the "If it talks like a duck" analogy suggesting it is a SCAM.
Why do you feel that is so horrible?

Am I not allowed to say what I think on this thread? It was about CMKX, as opposed to some of the things you followed up with in response JBCak/byrdturd insults.
 


Posted by Ruh916 on :
 
If I was the ceo of a scam company, i'd do it like lsta, prim, etc, etc etc...nice and quiet like.

I wouldn't be a public figure who has personally met probably hundreds of shareholders, signed on however many scam companys.

I wouldn't own a VERY public racing team, let alone 3??.

I wouldn't feel safe scamming 40,000+ people, knowing there have already been death threats towards employees(IMO re: Melvin on paltalk).

I wouldn't involve my extended family.. unless we were a crime family of course.

I wouldn't be joining one of these other scam companies in a Las Vegas party with 4-6000+ already RSVP'd.

This, just like most things in life, is nothing more then point of view. There is mine. Have fun.

 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
WALLY wrote...I did, however, use the "If it talks like a duck" analogy suggesting it is a SCAM.


Oh,NOW you're into analogies...

If it is, it could be the biggest duck that ever quacked.

If not ,it could be the big alligator.And it came up out of the merkiest of waters.And kills your little duck analogy!

You say you have experience.How many diamond mining Co.'s with millions of $'s thrown at them like in the CMKX(@.0003!) pr's?OK, then give some examples.

 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ruh420:
If I was the ceo of a scam company, i'd do it like lsta, prim, etc, etc etc...nice and quiet like.

I wouldn't be a public figure who has personally met probably hundreds of shareholders, signed on however many scam companys.

I wouldn't own a VERY public racing team, let alone 3??.

I wouldn't feel safe scamming 40,000+ people, knowing there have already been death threats towards employees(IMO re: Melvin on paltalk).

I wouldn't involve my extended family.. unless we were a crime family of course.

I wouldn't be joining one of these other scam companies in a Las Vegas party with 4-6000+ already RSVP'd.

This, just like most things in life, is nothing more then point of view. There is mine. Have fun.


Enron.

 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
Bre-X
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
Enron.

Diamond mines.But funny.
 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
Diamond mines.But funny.

Actually, it's not funny at all. Being a very public figure and throwing parties is what Enron was all about. Ken Lay was more visible than being at a race track. He was interviewed on CNBC, for crying out loud.

I want this to be legit. I have 10M reasons. But I'm looking to put my faith in something other than UC's "public-ness."

And here's where I find comfort. I admit that I know very little about the mining industry. I would feel more comfortable if I knew what experts think about CMKX. And then I look at the list of mining companies (experts) who are scrambling for a piece of the CMKX pie, and THAT's how I can sleep at night.
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
Wallace, you never said what you thought was a good penny stock to invest in just wanted to see your thoughts so I can possibly broaden my possition if it sounds like something good.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Winsum,

You wrote:
I look at the list of mining companies (experts) who are scrambling for a piece of the CMKX pie, and THAT's how I can sleep at night.
-----------------------------------
I would have to agree with you if maybe DeBeers, Shore Gold, Kensington or some other successful and reputable company was involved in the scrambling. Then, I could see some possibilities.

However, to the best of my knowledge, not one of the companies involved with CMKX show any earnings, some don't even file with the SEC and information is not made public. In addition, there are many other companies owned or controlled by the Casavant family that could become more involved, and to my knowledge, are also not showing earnings.

 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sdrobert:
Wallace, you never said what you thought was a good penny stock to invest in just wanted to see your thoughts so I can possibly broaden my possition if it sounds like something good.

Good luck...Doubt you'll hear anything come out of him.Unless it's something he thinks can post determinantal to CMKX.It's like an obsession...(or paid to do).That's what he does.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
sdrobert and highwaychild,

No dice. Looks like a set-up to me.

Might suggest you look for pennys with positive earnings. Most pennys end up in the dumper. Guess I am bashing pennys now, huh? OK.

Gone now for the evening.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 27, 2004).]
 


Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
August Focus Stock: CMKM Diamonds (CMKX)

CMKM Diamonds Announces Stock

Will be Paid on Oct. 6, 2004

Corporate Attorney Makes Comments on Filing Status

Last Friday, September 24 CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (CMKX) announced that the dividend of U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. (UCAD) stock will be paid on October 6, 2004 rather than today. “The delay was because of the enormous amount of administrative work that needs to be done by the transfer agents for both companies in order to make that distribution,” stated CEO Urban Casavant. “We do not anticipate any further delays in paying the dividend.” The record date for the dividend remains unchanged.

CMKX corporate attorney D. Roger Glenn stated later in the press release, “The company’s accountants are working to complete the audit of the company’s financial statements. When that has been accomplished, the company will be well on its way to becoming a fully reporting company again.”

It appears the UCAD dividend will be about 9.6 shares of UCAD for every one million shares of CMKX owed on the record date (although this number can still change). In the press release, it was noted that UCAD’s management agreed to issue additional shares for the round-up process for its distribution. Although the distribution seems to indicate that CMKX will pay out the UCAD dividend based on about 780 billion shares, The Green Baron Report believes CMKX is using a number close to the total authorized number of shares, and not the outstanding number of shares. We do not believe CMKX has issued the additional 300 billion shares it authorized back in August, but is holding these shares for possible acquisitions or joint partnerships.

The Green Baron Report is not concerned over the brief delay in the dividend payout. In a personal experience with one account due UCAD shares, the account originally was credited unrestricted, free trading shares of UCAD. The broker was immediately called by the back office to be sure not to allow any possible UCAD sells to go through because the shares were supposed to have been restricted. We are not exactly sure why there is a delay in correcting the problem, but we do expect delivery of restricted UCAD shares on October 6. (Note: there was no intent to sell the UCAD shares even if free trading)

It has been made clear to us that D. Roger Glenn was not only hired to get CMKX fully reporting, but also deal with share structure issues, achieve listing on a higher exchange, and handle issues related to a possible short position. We have been told that Mr. Glenn plans to attend and make a speech at the CMKX/UCAD shareholder event scheduled in Las Vegas on the weekend of October 29-31. The Green Baron Report views Mr. Glenn’s continued involvement with CMKX as vital, and a clear indication that the company is headed on the right path. At this point it is impossible to speculate on a date as to when CMKX will become fully reporting and attain a Bulletin Board listing, but we are confident that Mr. Glenn’s influence will speed up the process significantly.

Ed Miller, CEO of our parent company, was extremely pleased following this last weekend’s trip to Dallas. Although CEO Urban Casavant was not in attendance, Mr. Ed Dhonau and Mr. Rendal Williams representing U.S. Canadian Minerals (UCAD) were available to answer some questions. The Green Baron Report would like to convey to our members that we believe Mr. Dhonau and Mr. Williams are very impressive, experienced, top-notch businessmen. They are entirely dedicated and committed to the short and long-term success of CMKM Diamonds and U.S. Canadian Minerals.

Once again, our visit to a CMKX related event has resulted in brimming confidence. An outside contact of The Green Baron from the West Coast was able to join Ed Miller in Dallas. He made the journey because he wanted to meet first hand some of the players involved behind the story, and because none of the initial high-flying stock rumors and speculation had panned out. Although we were not encouraged by his bitter and frustrated attitude prior to the visit, he came back a happy, satisfied stockholder that is overtly positive about the prospects of CMKX and UCAD.

During the visit, we learned a great deal about the current and proposed operations of U.S. Canadian Minerals in Ecuador and elsewhere. We gained a much better feeling about the value of claims that CMKX owns in Canada, and the possibility of a revenue stream coming to CMKX in the short-term. We learned that Mr. Dhonau who claims to be one of CMKX’s largest shareholders, is not concerned about the CMKX share structure. Apparently it was Mr. Dhonau who helped secure Roger Glenn as corporate attorney for CMKX, and has been instrumental in helping bring new investment interest to Mr. Casavant. We learned that these men still believe a short position exists, and the “trap has been set”. We learned a great many other things that help us maintain our original confidence.

Perhaps this might be a good time to reiterate The Green Baron’s position on CMKX. Our parent company, Evergreen Marketing, has not sold a single share of stock since we took positions in July and August. We still believe that the best time to have purchased CMKX was when we upgraded CMKX to a fully profiled stock on August 9 and before all dividend record dates had hit (although we believe .0003 is very attractive). Even though we will not forecast price targets or projections without more information, we maintain that based on all press releases and public information about CMKX, independent due diligence, and data from other companies that hold mineral claims in the Fort a La Corne area, that CMKX remains significantly undervalued. In our boldest statement to date, we no longer feel it is a matter of if, but when CMKX becomes the Stock Play of a Lifetime!

Here's a bit more on The Duck, FWIW
Still long, still strong.
 


Posted by lanebro on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:
NETSEC

ASK BOB FREY IF YOU REALLY THINK THAT.


-John-



Bob Frey? Hmmm. The plot thickens.

 
Posted by Ruh916 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
Enron.

Point taken.
They have their similarities.
But..
Enron wasn't a pinksheet it was a huge corporation.

If I remember right, someone did die over it?
Suicide if I remember right, unless it was a assasination/coverup... LOL

People were convicted.

They had help by overseas bankers who are facing extradition hearings.

And if I understand right, Ken Lay the CEO wasn't the puppetmaster calling all the shots, it looks like executives who got too deep into the cow patties and ended up burying the shareholders in them.

That one sucked even more because of how many people lost most if not all of their retirements over it.

So back to my point of view/opinion... ****IMO****:Pinksheets scams like to scam quietly, maybe throw out a bunch of nice pr's to get the fundamental bunch into the fray and BAMM.. owned.... :P

Of course, that's not the only reason I hold my shares.

3.3 mil @ .0004x avg
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
I found this on another board. Since I don't see it posted earlier, here it is.

Posted by: zeninvestor32 Date:9/27/2004 1:47:04 PM
Post # 14606 http://tinyurl.com/5j695

THIS IS A REALLY EXCELLENT POST.

Onyx Pup posted this earlier from RB. It's very interesting to me and let me explain why. Again, I am not a securities attorney, so I do not know all the filing requirements or procedural issues that Roger may be addressing. But one thing I have wondered is whether CMKX would simply file a 10K with the SEC to become reporting again or whether they would approach this under the full-blown process of being listed with the otcc bb. If the latter, it explains a LOT. I had a friend whose company went through the approval process for listing on the otc bb awhile back. The process took around 9 months. It was brutal. You submit all your information to the SEC and await their comments. They will tag you on everything which you and your auditors have to then resubmit for a second round of "comments". My friend actually had to do a third round. It took a long while. But then again, he was not using a top-notch attorney and not using a top-notch CPA. My guess is that someone greatly familiar with SEC compliance like Roger (particularly if he has contacts there as a former SEC man) can get some expedited feedback. Still, if they are doing this the all-out way to become an otc bb listed company, the process is grueling and takes time. Roger has now been at it almost 4 months. If he has had his ducks in a row (and I'm guessing he has), I would not at all be surprised for the process to be nearly through. Roger probably has a pretty good idea at this stage on how much longer this process will take and can coordinate the "plan" around it.

But let me tell you. What REALLY excites me if in fact they are doing this is that this means the SEC has complete and full disclosure from CMKX. This means the company has basically laid every financial and every deal on CMKX in the last 5 years probably bare and available for the SEC to inspect. And THIS would be why, despite all the absolute absurdity in the stock's trading, there has been no investigation into CMKX and no halt. SEC would have everything. There wouldn't be a need to investigate. The SEC can see every step ever taken and understand what and why is happening. And since there has been no halt or problems, this is key. This would ultimately be a very smart move by Roger. Lay yourself prostrate before the SEC and then when they sign off on everything, YOU ARE GOOD TO GO. The downside is the timing issue. You just don't have control over the SEC's schedule or their comments. But if this is handled properly, and I suspect if anyone would handle it properly it's Roger, this is indeed a very big move for cmkx. What would it mean in the short term (unknown as to exact time frame):

1. Fully reporting on otcbb which makes the stock available for institutional/fund purchases (i still wish it was going to amex where credibility runs much higher)
2. SEC blessing on CMKX financials puts all bashers to rest
3. Full disclosure of every nit about CMKX
4. Company will now be committed to complete and total disclosure of alll future deals

I like where this is going. The last PR's comment about the auditors at work and becomeing fully reporting was important to me. If in fact Roger has CMKX's financials in front of the SEC and already through any comments phases, we are all going to be very, very, very happy imo.

Here's the link to the post I think is very interesting:
http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=87359


Z

As always, these are my personal opinions.

 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Very interesting! Yesterday at close, my Fidelity account showed a negative 1 billion plus vol. This morning before open, it showed a positive value just under 40 million.
 
Posted by valves on :
 
St. George Metals, Inc. Announces Final Payment of $2,500,000 Delivered to CMKM Diamonds, Inc.
9/28/2004 9:30:00 AM




VEGREVILLE, Alberta, Sep 28, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- St. George Metals, Inc. (Pink Sheets:SGGM) is pleased to announce that the Company has delivered the 4th and final payment of $2,500,000 U.S. Dollars to CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX) totaling now $10,000,000 U.S. Dollars of the $10,000,000 U.S.D. joint venture agreement between St. George Metals, Inc. and CMKM Diamonds, Inc.

In consideration for $10,000,000 US Dollars and two hundred billion (200,000,000,000) restricted shares of SGGM St. George Metals, Inc. will purchase a 5% unencumbered and absolute interest in any and all mineral claims held by CMKM Diamonds, Inc.

There is no guarantee that further exploration or drilling will produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the company.

This press release contains "forward-looking" statements as that term is defined by Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 (the "Securities Act"), as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (the "Exchange Act"), as amended. All statements that are included in this press release other than statements of historical fact are "forward-looking" statements. Although management believes that the expectations reflecting in these forward-looking statements are reasonable, it can give no assurance that such expectations will prove to have been correct. Important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the expectations as disclosed herein, including without limitation, in conjunction with these forward-looking statements contained in this press release.

SOURCE: St. George Metals, Inc.

St. George Metals, Inc.
Investor Relations:
Vicki Curran, 877-632-3133


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Posted by JEAL on :
 
Holy cow -

Awfully quiet in here......
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JEAL:
Holy cow -

Awfully quiet in here......


shhhhh You woke me up.
 


Posted by Pappy on :
 
WOW 3.5 BIL SHARES TRADED ALREADY
 
Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
"JBCak/byrdturd insults"

Wow, have you been up all night crying in your pillow... remember sticks and stones...

-Byrd-
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well good for cmkx....wonder if UC it going to add sggm shares to our dividend list..not that we ever get any of them...lol
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
interesting wallace does not give a good pick but only a good smear.
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
We want NOAH, We want NOAH, We want NOAH

* as the crowd cheers *
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
tbo452
Dr. Of Diamonds


member is online


Gender:
Posts: 227

*** NEW GEMM Dividend Info ***
« Thread started on: Today at 11:59am »
From OTCBB...

CMKX - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Common Stock

Declaration Date:

-- Ex Date:

-- Record Date:
10/01/2004

Payment Date:
11/15/2004

Dividend Type:
Stock Div. payable in another company

Dividend Amount:
+stk

Notes:
+Approximately .00012267 of a restricted share of Juina Mining Corp (OTC: GEMM) for each share held. Will not be quoted Ex.

« Last Edit: Today at 12:01pm by tbo452 »
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dividend.asp?sym_id=CMKX&dDate=10/01/2004&sDateType=Record_date

Hurrah for a 778 billion OS!!!
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
LOL!
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
you would think that with 10 mil. coming in they would have bought the other 24% of gemm and given out those shares too. but then gemm is the only company in this whole group actually digging something worth more then dirt out of the ground. guess that explains not getting the other 24%
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ok we have 2 dividends paying out just under 800 billion o/s & 1 at a 1.6 trillion o/s. i think we should start a charity drive here...lets send the cmkx accountants a few new calculators. the ones they are using seem to be broke
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
122.67 shares per million shares or $4.29345 of gemm stock per million shares. i have 2,062,000 shares of cmkx so i get 250 shares of gemm or $8.75. if i sell it costs $10.99...good deal for me i think...lol. its nice that frank is thinking of us shareholders by giving us shares in other companies but i'm starting to wish he wouldn't. 1 dividend if not handled right by the company may cost $250 after the restriction is lifted to sell. 1 dividend isn't a tradeable stock & 1 costs more then its worth to sell...lol
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Bill1352
Don't forget all those claims with fantastic potential. Whose are those? I'd also be careful about SGGM...expect "par for the course".

sdrobert,
Guess I figured that one right! Give me one "good" reason why I should give you a tip. Here's one - CMKX...right off the bottom of a dairy farmer's boot.
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
Wallace#1
Member posted September 28, 2004 15:01
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Bill1352
Don't forget all those claims with fantastic potential. Whose are those? I'd also be careful about SGGM...expect "par for the course".

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truth is nobody knows what those claims will bring. there is enough proof that they own something that has a real shot at diamonds. i'm sure you know i'm not a believer in the stock play of a lifetime idea but i do think that in the next yr or 2 my $850 could become $8500 and every broker out there aims for a 20% return per yr. that gives me 4 1/2 more yrs of waiting. plus where else can i read stuff from drug filled pumpers & hate filled bashers, have a company mess with my mind, watch mm's manipulate the heck out of a pps and if it does tank by owning stock I can have the dubious honor of being part of the biggest stock scam in the history of the market...lol
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Wallace -

You baffle me
 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
CORRECTING and REPLACING U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. Exercises Additional Purchase of CMKM Diamonds Inc.'s Mineral Claims for $2,500,000 USD
Tuesday September 28, 3:58 pm ET


LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 28, 2004--In BW5550 issued Sept. 9, 2004: First graph, third sentence of release dated Sept. 9, 2004, should read: With the exercise of this portion of the option and previous option exercises and transactions with CMKX, UCAD currently holds 8.16% of all of CMKX's mineral claims. (sted With the exercise of this portion of the option and previous option exercises and transactions with CMKX, UCAD currently holds 9.16% of all of CMKX's mineral claims.)
The corrected release reads:

U.S. CANADIAN MINERALS INC. EXERCISES ADDITIONAL PURCHASE OF CMKM DIAMONDS INC.'S MINERAL CLAIMS FOR $2,500,000 USD

U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. (OTCBB: UCAD - News) announced today that it has exercised a portion of its option with CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX - News) to purchase an additional 1.66% interest in all of CMKX's mineral claims for $2,500,000 USD. Under the agreement reached in July, UCAD has a one-year option agreement to purchase up to an aggregate total of 10% interest in all of the mineral claims held by CMKX for a total of $15 million USD payable to CMKM Diamonds Inc. With the exercise of this portion of the option and previous option exercises and transactions with CMKX, UCAD currently holds 8.16% of all of CMKX's mineral claims. Should UCAD exercise its remaining portion of its option, the company will hold 15% of all of the CMKX mineral claims.

Rendal Williams, CEO of UCAD, stated, "The company expects to exercise additional percentages under the option as we move forward, increasing our holdings and asset base with the acquisition of potentially high revenue properties."

Further details relative to this project will be forthcoming in future press releases and at http://www.uscanadian.net/.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

Statements contained in this document which are not historical fact are forward-looking statements based upon management's current expectations that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in or implied by forward-looking statements.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Contact:
U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc.
Chris Hanneman, 303-220-8476


 


Posted by dwman on :
 
bill1352 wrote
"where else can i read stuff from drug filled pumpers"

blli, iim not udrg flield. go kmcx
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
wasn't thinking of you dw...more along the lines of zen, dr. d and a few more from rb

[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited September 28, 2004).]
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i'm slow dw...just got home haven't had my coffee yet..lol...just got your post
 
Posted by tic_toc on :
 
remember people dr d is on christian traders radio soon.
http://familyvaluesradio.com/index.html
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
wasn't thinking of you dw...more along the lines of zen, dr. d and a few more from rb

[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited September 28, 2004).]


lol bill. I know you weren't. I try not to pump and I certainly won't bash. In fact, I don't really contribute much of value to the board. I just enjoy learning from guys who post good stuff on here...you included. I just couldn't resist the "drugged pumper" thing.
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
Okay where is everybody ????
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
good question TW, i think they are done pumping this thing cuz it's become obvious that without a major diamond find, it's pretty much not going anywhere.....
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
How many PRs today and still closed at .0003.
SGGM
CMKX
UCAD?

Think you are right Glass, without diamonds this is going nowhere. Question is how many diamonds will it take to provide any value?


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Bill1352 wrote:
plus where else can i read stuff from drug filled pumpers & hate filled bashers, have a company mess with my mind, watch mm's manipulate the heck out of a pps and if it does tank by owning stock I can have the dubious honor of being part of the biggest stock scam in the history of the market...lol
--------------------------------------------
Bill, really enjoyed the above. Hell, who knows, maybe they will find loads of diamonds.
--------------------------
-------------------------

JEAL,

I baffle you? How so? I say things as I see them...always have.

 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
How many diamonds do think are up there?They're a diamond mining Co. that's what they do.Drilling for 'em...ofcourse I'm waiting on diamonds.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Well, well, well. It's my good friend highwaychild. You wrote:

They're a diamond mining Co. that's what they do.Drilling for 'em...ofcourse I'm waiting on diamonds.
-------------------------------------------
Are they still drilling for diamonds? Do you know that for a fact? Have they put those so-called additional drilling rigs to work (assuming the are operable)? What happened to those other samples from "Carolyn"? More dismal results beyond the 2 micros announced?

"A diamond mining Co.? Are you sure they are not just in the business of passing PRs about money back and forth? Are you sure it is not just someone's "joy ride". Those things have happened before and no one listened either.


[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 28, 2004).]
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Look I feel sorry for those who were cought high @.0009 or 8.But I think maybe some MM('s) was caught that high too.And I'm pretty sure they would like to see it get going again as well as anybody.
Me I got in @ .0001 AND 1/2 were free.As in a free ride.So like I said before 'I'm all in'.I'll be riding this horse just to see where she takes me.Yee HA!
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Highwaychild,

At .0001, I really don't blame you for riding
the CMKX mule. LOL I hope you're not in it with a pile of $$$$.
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Hope not either...HA HA HA...But no thanks for all the $$$$ you keep dumping.LOL
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
highwaychild,

LMAO. Didn't realize the way my post read until you prompted me to read it again.
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
One good reason is you say you look out for the newbies so why not give something you feel positive about as well as what you are against. unless you are against every single stock out there. I am somewhat skeptical about this stock too but in order to take your advice I need to feel confident that you actually arent here to only post negative info on any given company but you actualy are good at predicting if a company is worth a risk or not, if you cant think of a good risk to invest in it would be hard to validate that a stock you think is bad truly is bad.
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sdrobert:
interesting wallace does not give a good pick but only a good smear.

He gave you the basic info. on how to find one. Who would want to be responsible for giving you a tip and due to unforeseen bad luck the bottom fell out...
AUML is what I would tell ya! lol or USCI or PRRM

 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
personally i think if they hold for about a yr even ppl at .0009 will do well. with all the info about the area and you need to look at shore not debeers because debeers really doesn't want more diamonds in the market, the place they are drilling now will more then likely find something worth mining now finding enough to make a 800 billion o/s move past .01 i dont think is possible and there is no way to mine that much in 1 yr. forget the fact that putting that many diamonds in the market would crash the price. now if you had the money to risk on 100 million or more shares and held for a while i think a yr or so from now you'd do very well. but $40,000 is a lot to risk.
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
bill I liked that post good optimism without unrealistic expectations and no bashing or pumping nice one for someone who is for the stock not over done. I think noah and wallace are actually the same person with a split personality. one pumps so much they should sell hot air balloons and the other half is so negative it leads me to believe he is actualy so depressed of a person that tried to jump off a bridge and only broke an ankle.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
sdrobert,

No offense, but do yourself a real big favor and go over to the post by RobinO about stock frauds. It's right here on the "under .10 topics". The second one which identifies an Allstocks site might be of particular interest to you or to anyone who at least wants to know what to look for.
It truly is an eye opener for someone who is not aware! You will also find some interesting similarities to CMKX.

Now, after reading that site, can you see why I might post as I do. Is Allstocks a basher as well? I have been posting the same basic things as they say to be wary of.

Since RobinO might not want to subject himself/herself to the usual comments on this thread, I have taken the liberty of reposting that Allstocks site. I do hope he/she does not object.
http://www.allstocks.com/copia/html/the_basics_of_otcbb.html

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 28, 2004).]
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by sdrobert:
quote:
One good reason is you say you look out for the newbies so why not give something you feel positive about as well as what you are against. unless you are against every single stock out there. I am somewhat skeptical about this stock too but in order to take your advice I need to feel confident that you actually arent here to only post negative info on any given company but you actualy are good at predicting if a company is worth a risk or not, if you cant think of a good risk to invest in it would be hard to validate that a stock you think is bad truly is bad.

Very well said and I agree 100%.
 


Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Wallace: I have tried to understand the reasoning behind your postings and to no avail. However, you do remind me of a few examples of people that I cross paths with each and every day:
#1. The Guy Who Has Found "God" and goes out of his way to make sure that he pushes his new found beliefs on everyone else.
#2. The Alcoholic who could not handle his drinking and joins AA, now he believes that no one else should drink, because he believes that everyone else is like him and can't handle their alcohol.
#3. The Reformed Smoker, who could not control his habit, either got cancer or quit and now believes that he needs to preach to everyone else not to smoke.
#4. The gambler who lost everything through poor judgement and now preaches about the evils of gambling.
#5. The Ex Day Trader who had dreams of making big bucks and invested more that he could afford and lost everything
#6. The person who has no one in life so he spends his entire on Allstocks, posting so that he is not so lonely in his own life.

I just do not know, but I would like to know why you spend so much time trying to save us from what you think is bad or will harm us. Are you able to give an answer, I am sure that there are many of us who post,that would like to know.
Wallace I am not saying that you are any of these people that I have mentioned, but I am puzzled as to why you are so persistant in wanting to save us all!!!!

------------------
"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"
 


Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Wallace: Another thought, maybe just maybe you are working for Urban Casavant and the gang. Because with all the negative things you have said about CMKX, its had a reverse effect on me as it has made me BUY MORE and made me HOLD. Its like telling me I should not see a new movie, that will only make me more curious and I will go to see it. So thanks for the negative postings because I have bought more and in the long run will be richer.I am sure that Urban is proud of your work. Thanks Wallace, many. many thanks, I cannot thank you enough.

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"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"

[This message has been edited by Doctoall (edited September 29, 2004).]
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
I can't understand why everyone doesn't understand. lol

I understand where Wallace is coming from, and I appreciate the questions he brings up. Out of all the people on this board he is the one that has taught me "what to look for". Being only into trading since May, I had slim and practically no idea about stocks and traits of possible scams.

Why everyone rags on him is beyond me. There is so many things about this stock's people that greatly lacks professionalism. And they are coming across like they are pretty dang shady. After finding those court records, and reading about Casavant's past dealings I definately got a BAD taste in my mouth.
I may talk crap about this stock, urban, melvin... And dig up dirt. But for some odd reason my gut tells me to hold. So I am, and in the mean time I am going to say what I want be it - or +.

 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
Wallace I am not saying that you are any of these people that I have mentioned, but I am puzzled as to why you are so persistant in wanting to save us all!!!!


Doctoall, I'm as high on cmkx as anyone on the board but I'm not a pumper. However, in defense of Wallace (and I'm sure that he doesn't need my defense), I really don't think he is trying to "save" anyone from this stock. In my opinion he is a pofessional basher basher who gets paid according to the number of times he posts something. If this indeed is his job, then he is very good at it and he can take pride in that. He's really not a bad guy. Rather, in my opinion, he is just misguided. Perhaps someone can re-post the excerpt that describes the characteristics of bashers. Sorry Wallace...no offense intended. JMO.
 


Posted by Doctoall on :
 
TradingPennies: It not that I have anything against Wallace, or want to rag on him. It just gets old, same old thing day after day. I come to Allstocks, to see what is happening and to get advice and chat with good friends that I have met here and have come to respect. I to appreciate the fact that there are those poeople who want to watch out for us, but you must admit it does get old. Maybe Wallace should open his own thread and we could go there if we want for his advice or perspective on a stock. Once again I am just trying to understand where he is coming from, not intending to rag on him. I am sure that he is mature enough to understand that.But I only need to be told once and then I respect the notion of free will and being able to make up my own mind.

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"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"

[This message has been edited by Doctoall (edited September 29, 2004).]
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Doctoall,

This is the last time I will respond to any of your posts. I DO remember a particularly objectionable post you made toward me.

If you are a doctor of any kind, I am sure you will appreciate the need for a second opinion.

As to buying in to CMKX because of my so-called negative postings (all of which happen to have been FACTS)...that, I find is a most unusual way of spending your money.

Did you go to that Allstocks site? There must be at least 5 separate warnings that fit CMKX and it's people.
--------------------------------------------

And to that someone else who likes to join with the jackals from time to time...get off the fence and state what you truly feel about CMKX. It's no one's fault but your own that you bought into CMKX the second time...even when you knew better.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
dwman wrote:

In my opinion he is a pofessional basher basher who gets paid according to the number of times he posts something. If this indeed is his job, then he is very good at it and he can take pride in that. He's really not a bad guy. Rather, in my opinion, he is just misguided.
------------------------------------------
"He's really not a bad guy." is the only thing about those statements that is correct.
You couldn't be more incorrect about the others.

Did you look up that Allstocks site above? How about you posting the various points that fit with CMKX? Then, it will save me the trouble and the remarks I get. Do you have the guts? If not, maybe that guy Upsides will provide the enlightenment.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 29, 2004).]
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
sdrobert wrote:
so why not give something you feel positive about as well as what you are against. unless you are against every single stock out there. I
-----------------------------------------
As I said before, I see almost nothing positive about CMKX to post except that they have unproven claims that MIGHT, just MIGHT contain diamonds.

"...against every single stock out there."?
Get real! Show me a stock with positive attributes and I will post it if I am interested in it. Here's a good one, but I am guessing it is out of your league...UCAD.
I have recommended this one before. Another is PDGE which, again, is probably out of your league.

PS: I'm out of here for now.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 29, 2004).]
 


Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Good Morning Wallace: Glad to see that you are alive and well. Any good day is a day when you can tell someone else how you feel, in your case how bad CMKX is

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"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"
 


Posted by atexan on :
 
Now that CMKX has received the last payment from SGGM, does anyone think we'll get a PR for the distribution of SGGM's 200 billion shares?

 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
dwman wrote:
.

Wallace, I don't know what point to which you refer but it doesn't matter. I don't re-post bashes. It's has nothing to do with guts. I still think you are a paid basher but, compared to some bashers, you seem like a nice guy.
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
You guys really need to come over to the CMKX ********s...

Wally and his crew seems to have worked their magic on this thread...

You know there are LOTS of dissenting views on the ********s, however they aren't BASHER like in nature, unlike many of the posts on this thread...

Debi left, Noah left, I am pretty much on lurk mode, The same goes for Wizardress... and others...

Dwman, I understand not wanting to give up on this thread, it's SAD that the people who don't own stock and who have been calling it a scam are the ones who caused many of us to 'leave'... And this has been pretty much the consent of a lot of people...

Again, Wallace posts here EVERYDAY and his usuall crew of people back him up...

It is beyond me how Trading Penny can sit there and say that Wallace gets 'ragged' on... Well crap on something for three months, almost every day, there will be people who don't like you...

Again, Trading Penny, you say you got started in May? Well I think Wallace has taken you for a sucker... considering you accept his LIES of buying at .0001...

This is beyond comical! Again, I suggest you guys try the cmkx ********s. This place(Allstocks CMKX Thread) use to be really good and fun, with pro and con ideas, however what Wally and Co. have done to this place is terrible... WAY TO MUCH NEGATIVITY...

Peace~

-John-
 


Posted by Doctoall on :
 
JBCAK47: Yes I agree with you Its Time To Move On. I joined Allstocks so that I would be informed NOT "Bashed To Death". I to will move on to another board. Maybe our paths will cross there. Let Wallace have the thread!!!!!!!!

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"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"
 


Posted by FasttrackerMo on :
 
Wallace#1Member posted March 10, 2004 20:37 Hippo - PaulI take it NITE and JEFF are certain MM's. How do you know their ID's? How do you know which stock(s) a MM is handling? How do you know how exactly how many shares are traded each time whether at a lower, equal or higher price? Sure would appreciate an explanation of each!!! [This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited March 10, 2004).]
Wallace#1Member posted June 10, 2004 23:28 Upside, your .0009 seems low to me. Wouldn't surprise me if it goes to between .001/.002. Remember, even small diamonds can be profitably used for industrial purposes.
Wallace#1Member posted June 18, 2004 21:19 Keith, WOW!!! That chart looks fantastic!!! Have you checked out the fundamentals at all? If not, let me know, and I will. By the way, I haven't seen any of Gregdogg's postings lately, have you? I know Glass is probably involved in his move. There seem to be an awful lot of "strange" new people on the "Under .10" group. Nothing like what we have been accustomed to. Dave -Somewhere back on that CMKX thread you had a question for me. Be glad to answer it here. [This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited June 18, 2004).]
CHIMAN34Member posted June 19, 2004 13:05 Hi Wallace. You had said "I just cancelled my BUY for 4 mil shs at .0004 and changed it to 10 mil at .0001." I asked if you really thought it would drop that far again? This is for the cmkx question I had. ThanksDave

Question for something that is such a scam, why would you buy 10mil shares @ .0001
Wallace#1Member posted June 27, 2004 14:52 For those of you who are convinced that CMKX is naked shorted, you may find the fact that Universal Express (USXP) has filed a "Memorandum" with the SEC about naked shorting by the MMs and the SEC doing nothing about it. Just do a search using Universal Express, SEC, Memorandum. Based upon that, CMKX may very well be naked shorted. However, that will do more damage than good to shareholders. Initially (if true), there may be a rise in CMKX share price with MMs trying to cover. In the long run, all will lose out. This does not negate my opinion that people are being misled by UC, Melvin and others at CMKX. They may be using the naked shorting as a diversion. [This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited June 27, 2004).] [This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited June 27, 2004).] [This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited June 27, 2004).]
Amazing how you act like you know so much , but in March you seemed clueless about MM’s
Wallace#1Member posted July 28, 2004 15:46 krose, You might try to follow some of the recommendations (not just the PRs) of people like Glassman and Dardadog, among others.I don't post tips because of bad experiences on the CMKX thread. By the way, would not recommend CMKX...too much confusion and too many unknowns surrounding it. -------------------------------------------Also a lot of strange people on that thread that think they know a lot of stocks and do nothing but pump it...might be worth your while to check it out for that reason only.
After going through your post I have come to the conclusion that you are trying to say you have all of this knowledge, when in reality you just started doing this and know nothing of penny stocks. Your contribution has been nothing and for someone that doesn’t believe in this stock, fine we get the point! You don’t like it, but honestly the majority of your posts are about CMKX why the hell do you spend so much time here? It makes no sense.
Now thanks to you and others like you, good people have left this site.
“Allstocks” I am really sorry to see that you have not gotten rid of Wallace, he has been of no aid to anyone and it is obvious that he is here just to bash this stock and people invested in it.
With that, I will be leaving this site and going to another board for good .
Thanks Wallace, and others for making good people leave.

Fast

 


Posted by skippy on :
 
As a lurker most of the time, I must say that I too am tired of all the excess nonsence that goes on here in this thread. I have also started to look elsewhere for my CMKX information. When I started with this board, it was excellent to read the discussion between members. That discussion has turned into bickering between members and has totally turned me off. The image I had of Allstocks has changed within the last 6-8 months. I'm just dissapointed it has turned out to be like other boards. This one use to be different.
 
Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
THIS IS 100% ALLSTOCKS FAULT...

Had they done there 'job' and gotten rid of the problem people, NO ONE owuld be leaving this site...
People who have left or Stopped posting because of Wallace and the bashers on CMKX Thread:

1. Noah -Left Completely
2. WWJD/Debi-Left Completely
3. JBCak47 - Lurk mode, stopped posting
4. Money Penny - Left Completely or stopped posting.
5. Trading Wizard - Stopped posting, luker.
6. Tammie- Left site
7. FASTRACKMO- Leaving site
8. SKIPPY- Used the site for a year, now is leaving...

Not to mention a few others... Tammie I beleive sold because of Wallace and Co...

Again, these six or seven listed people, and others may not mean anything in the long run, however Allstocks relies on people posting to it...

Again, Allstocks chose not to do anything about the group of bashers, so Noah, WWJD, and many others have decided to leave...

I bet if no one posted, and we all sent messages to Bob Frey saying if you don't get rid of Wallace, we will no longer post, which means A LOT less trafic for Allstocks... I bet Wallace would be gone...

This site use to be THE BEST STOCK forum...

It is very sad that the management has left a group of bashers run everyone off their site. I guess when no one clicks on the add's and they see traffic is slow, maybe they will get a clue.

-John-

[This message has been edited by JBCak47 (edited September 29, 2004).]
 


Posted by HarryHar on :
 
Good post JB, I agree.
 
Posted by FasttrackerMo on :
 
Allstocks I am asking that Wallace#1 be removed and banned from this site.
If no action is taken with Wallace#1, and his other basher buddies I will permanently leave Allstocks.
I now ask that everyone here that agrees with this would say so, and I would also ask that we refrain from posting until we get our response.

A very concerned member.
Fast

 


Posted by trgfunds on :
 
What amazes me about this stock is how *little* evidence is needed to convince most people in here that it is the stock play of a lifetime (like they'll get rich and buy an island) and how *much* is needed to convince said shareholders to think it is the worst play, if not a scam. When you play in the penny stock world, it should work exactly the opposite way. Thats all wallace and co. are saying. I mean take a look at Peter Leeds. He is a widely reknowned penny stock researcher with a proven track record and preaches essentially the exact same thing. If there was irrefutable evidence that this stock was a scam, I have a feeling half if not more would still try to make the buy and hold case. This case has all the earmarks of inexperienced investors mixed in with emotion -- a losing combination.

[This message has been edited by trgfunds (edited September 29, 2004).]
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
"Thats all wallace and co. are saying. "
No actually he is saying A LOT more, I am sorry you missed it. I don't know how you couldn't...

About three of the 'longs' on here and about half a dozen other people want Wallace Gone... Those three 'Longs' were valuable assests, who have left because of Wallace and what he has done to this board...

Again, Get rid of one or two of the known bashers OR let a dozen of your biggest posters go else where???

Again, this site needs traffic and Wallace and Co. has been driving them away... Now there is a financial reason to get rid of Wallace, as well as the dozen reasons, err, members who also want him and his 'knowledge' gone...

Let us get emotional with our stock, why do you or anyone care what we do? If we lose the house, let us worry about that...
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
Better yet, email webmaster@allstocks.com


 


Posted by ahcncinc on :
 
trgfunds, your post was right on the money. Think CMKX will be racing next year? Where will the $$ come from? The CMKX "advertising" budget? How about some info on the company drilling budgets??
 
Posted by buzz357 on :
 
I am also leaving this board because there is no one left but Wallace and his crew posting.How any one can post here day and night without even owning this is beyond me.Talk about beating a dead horse.Anyway I was a member here for a year and half, mostly lurking but sometimes posting.But I have grown tired of all the BS posts that have absolutly no information just schoolyard b!tching.Everything was great til Wally showed up and started to spread his cancer.See ya
 
Posted by trgfunds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:
"Thats all wallace and co. are saying. "
No actually he is saying A LOT more, I am sorry you missed it. I don't know how you couldn't...

About three of the 'longs' on here and about half a dozen other people want Wallace Gone... Those three 'Longs' were valuable assests, who have left because of Wallace and what he has done to this board...

Again, Get rid of one or two of the known bashers OR let a dozen of your biggest posters go else where???

Again, this site needs traffic and Wallace and Co. has been driving them away... Now there is a financial reason to get rid of Wallace, as well as the dozen reasons, err, members who also want him and his 'knowledge' gone...

Let us get emotional with our stock, why do you or anyone care what we do? If we lose the house, let us worry about that...


I was originally referring to the recent comment made and link posted to the allstocks penny stock warning. Granted, it isn't my problem if you lose money, but the bigger picture involves the general education of the investing community, particularly those who see forums like this and buy based on it. I can tell you this. A newbie who finds any CMKX forum gets a hugely positive impression right off the bat. If you follow the history in chronological order people start talking about how many islands they'll buy before any real DD is posted. If bashing were a problem that wouldn't be the case.

With regard to people leaving the site because of them, I say you choose whether or not to let it bother you. I question how valuable longs really are with a stock like CMKX. CMKX is *stagnant*. Everything they have to say is repetitive. We know why they bought. We know why they're holding. They'd risk it all in hopes of changing their lives forever, yada yada. Its akin to winning the lottery. If this situation were unique, we wouldn't need longs telling us what they heard or read. We would have the company or CEO telling us first hand.
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
MY OPEN EMAIL LETTER TO ALLSTOCKS:

I suggest we all do this: webmaster@allstocks.comDear Allstocks,


Dear Allstocks,

I suggest you go check out the CMKX Thread. Many
of us (CMKX Shareholders) are getting tired of what
Wallace#1 has been doing on that thread.

Many of us are a step away from mutiny. There have
been over nine members who have stopped posting or
have left entirely. Two of those were very good
members, Noah and WWJD/Debi.

Your site needs people like them and us in order to
survive. You need traffic and we provide that
traffic. The 'better' the enviorment, the more people
will post, and the more traffic goes to your site.

Wallace#1 has been destroying that. I suggest you
think long and hard about him. He has driven away ,
or is ABOUT to drive away over ten people...

Remember, your site needs traffic and if he is driving
them away, well, I don't have to tell you what
happens.

Your site is about to lose MANY of it's good posters
and topic starters... Is 'Wallace#1' really worth it?

Either he (He is the NUMBER ONE trouble maker) goes or
we all go...

Sincerely,

John/JBCak47


 


Posted by Doctoall on :
 
I second the letter posted by JBCAK47. Wallace #1 is doing a great dis-service to the members of Allstocks with his postings.

Wallace #1 needs to GO!!!!!!!!!

This will be my last post in CMKX unless he is removed. I have had my fill with his nonsense.
------------------
"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"

[This message has been edited by Doctoall (edited September 29, 2004).]
 


Posted by Allstocks on :
 
Most all are welcome at AllStocks.com.

All are welcome to come and go as they please.

Over 10,000 folks visited yesterday.

Do as you please.
 


Posted by ahcncinc on :
 
and the saga continues...........
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Allstocks:
quote:
Most all are welcome at AllStocks.com.
All are welcome to come and go as they please.

Over 10,000 folks visited yesterday.

Do as you please.


A rousing victory for free speech, a crushing blow for this thread.


 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
I wonder why the allstocks admin just came in here strange.
Thank you wallace for your positive picks.
and some of the warning signs in the link seem to be close to cmkx I think it is because it is a pink stock and most pink sheets stocks could be close also that is why I am holding my shares with cmkx and not buying more as for the two that you said are good I agree with you and they are at a price that would be out of my range to take on. So technicaly you are saying one positive thing about cmkx. the small amount of shares we are getting from UCAD could be worth something holding on to. I hope you are wrong about cmkx you do have some valid points.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Incredible! Absolutely incredible!

And these are some of the people I took an oath to protect when I served my country? What a PITY! What a WASTE!

Guess it hit a nerve when you saw that so much on that Allstocks site about stock frauds was specifically identical to CMKX?
And not one of you, uncluding Upside, had the guts to post the similarities? Wonder why? Too accurate? "Hit the nail on the head"? Cannot have it all the ways, Up - down, back, forth, in, out, left and right!

As far as this thread is concerned, one of the worst things anyone could have done was pussy foot around about CMKX. Instead, a supposed proponent against CMKX, chose not to "call a spade a spade". Never took a real stand one way or another, but sure as hell enjoyed himself when the jackals came slinking around. What a disservice!

As soon as a certain person who was banned three times came back, it started all over again. Now, that very same person wants posters to go elsewhere? Now that very same person thinks he has the credibility to suggest that someone else be banned? Each and every person he named above thought he was FUNNY? Sure, as long as it was not directed at you, but at someone else's expense! He was the most foul and vile poster I have ever seen on any thread...and he wants to become a Public Administrator? Already, I feel sorry for the public with which he may one day be in contact. Sad, sad, very sad! Downright disgusting!

Christ!!!!!!!

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 29, 2004).]
 


Posted by MarthaStirIt on :
 
Yeah, Wally, Your brilliant mind shines brighter than a 70 carat diamond. Oh, that was just the light reflecting off your head.

Allstocks, Freedom of speech is one thing. Leaving the trash out for all to see is sloppy housekeeping. Please take out the garbage.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
As noahltl says,

RATTLE! RATTLE! RATTLE!

I can hear CMKX's dying RATTLE!

Must leave you wonderful folks for a while now.
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i think a few have seen my name posting in here for the last 6 months...wallce has every right to post as he see's fit until it goes into name calling. byrd and a few other also go into the name calling. when someone has made a decision about a stock or anything for that matter and someone else is doing everything but calling them a fool for that decision it hurts and then the anger arises. it doesn't hurt or bother you if you believe in yourself or have the ability to take criticism sometimes the criticism is wrong or overboard. in stocks this happens when a person either believes as CMKXer's do this is the stock play of a lifetime or when someone falls in love with a stock. as anyone will tell you both are bad moves in the pennies & even worse in the pinks. i'm not defending wallace & friends as a lot of their posts are way negitive but the positive ppl are way to positive not allowing the mostly bad info known about cmkx to sink in. this cmkx thread has been hurt but its as much the positive ppls fault as the negitives. personally i'm not going anywhere because i could careless what either group says both just make me laugh. this stock is like bush supporters vs. kerry supporters way to much hate and all over a stock!?!?!?
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Wallace#1:
quote:
And not one of you, uncluding Upside, had the guts to post the similarities? Wonder why? Too accurate? "Hit the nail on the head"? Cannot have it all the ways, Up - down, back, forth, in, out, left and right!

As far as this thread is concerned, one of the worst things anyone could have done was pussy foot around about CMKX. Instead, an outspoken proponent against CMKX, chose not to "call a spade a spade". Never took a real stand one way or another, but sure as hell enjoyed himself when the jackals came slinking around. What a disservice!


Wallace, I'll respond to you one last time. To begin with, there is no need to point out the similarities between the stock fraud article and CMKX. A link was provided and anyone who so desired could click on it and see the similarities for themselves. It's not my job to take peoples hands and go over each point with them, that would be demeaning. You seem to delight in belittling people, I do not. As far as pussy footing around on the issue, please do a little dd on your own post. Go back and re-read this topic from its origin, started by CashCowMoo. My position on this stock has not changed, there is just no need for me to post it 5 - 6 times a day nor to respond to one of your many challanges. Why don't you ask yourself why so many called for you to be banned today. Do you really think it's because you hold a negative view of this stock? Better think that one through again. Lastly, regarding the outcry for your banning and the "jackal" comment, I just want you to know that when it all started, I was probably the only one here who sent an e-mail to Bob Frey stating that in my opinion you had done nothing to warrant being banned. While I don't agree with your methods, this is a forum where free speech (within certain guidlines) should prevail. Good day sir.

 


Posted by MarthaStirIt on :
 
HERE ARE 15 (Positive) REASONS TO BUY CMKX

Someone who shall remain nameless to protect his reputation just posted:

{"I'm worried about owning a stock where people due their DD at racetracks by overhearing drunken fools talk about how rich they're going to be."} WELL GET OVER IT !!

BE THAT AS IT MAY, THAT NEITHER HAS NOR WILL HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH MINERAL CLAIMS VALUES IN THE BILLIONS SELLING FOR .0003

Even though you are an extremely conservative kind of person, YOU NEED TO PUT ASIDE ALL YOUR DOUBTS AND BUY IMMEDIATELY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

Yes there is lots of negative crap that could easily deter anybody who is used to INVESTING and has never had much appetite for the RISK of SPECULATION on a penny or SUB-PENNY stock.

HOWEVER, YOU MERELY HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE POSITVE PROBABILITIES:
Here are the first 15 that leap to my mind - THERE ARE MANY MORE!
(all documentation in links below)

1) What is the probablity that D Roger Glenn, who has ONLY Fortune 500 companies for clients would represent a scam? - ZERO ! !

2) What is the probability that CMKX is OVER-valued given the cash flow currently being generated by both Junia Mining (GEMM.ob) from the Yellow River GOLD mine AND by El Capitan (ECPN.ob) from its 17 MILLION tons of IRON ORE per year shipped to the LARGEST STEEL PRODUCER IN CHINA? - ZERO ! !

3) CMKX INTEREST IN GEMM ALONE IMHO WORTH .0006 TO .001
TWICE, MAYBE 3 x, THE CURRENT CMKX BUY PRICE

4) CMKX INTEREST IN ECPN ALONE IMHO WORTH .0006 TO .001
TWICE, MAYBE 3 x, THE CURRENT CMKX BUY PRICE

GEMM & ECPN ARE THE CASH COWS WITHOUT ANY - ZERO - DIAMONDS! !

5) What is the probability that BOTH Kensington / DeBeers AND Shore Gold can pull out good qualaity jewelry grade diamonds less than 6 miles away (each in different directions) from the current cmkx drill site, which is somewhere close to the center of a GIANT KIMBERLIGHT MUSHROOM OREO DEPOSIT OF APPROXIMATLY 8 X 5 MILES IN SIZE (THE "HEAD" OF THE "MUSHROOM"), and that CMKX will not find any diamonds there? - IMHO, ZERO ! !
http://questfordiamonds.com/research/topic5a.htm

6) What is the probabilty that CMKX will find NOTHING on ANY of its TWO MILLION ACRES of Mineral Claims that will add valaue to the current PPS of .0003 ? - ZERO ! !

Kensington / DeBeers is color keyed SKY BLUE
Shore Gold is color keyed OLIVE GREEN

EVERYTHING ELSE IS CMKX OR CMKX+JVPs
http://tinyurl.com/7yg88

7) What is the probability that the repair of the share structure by the resolution of the huge naked short position in CMKX will not POSITIVELY IMPACT the CMKX PPS? - ZERO !!

8) What is the probability that this (shorts covering, structure being repaired) is NOT currently happening, since the daily volume in billions, since dumping would drive the ppS down, AND SINCE BOTH THE CHAIKEN MINEY FLOW AND ACCUMULATION LINE T A INDICATORS CLEARLY SHOW INCREDIBLE BUYING / ACCUMULATION (and NOT selling /distribution /dumping) ? - ZERO ! !
http://tinyurl.com/4gamw

9) What is the probability that the CMKX will not go significantly higher than .0003 once D Roger Glenn gets CMKX FULLY REPORTING AGAIN and Listed AT LEAST on the OTC (as on .ob vs an .pk stock) - ZERO ! !

10) What is the probability that the PPS has any downside on the news of the sale of mineral rights for other types of deposits to other companies? - ZERO ! !

11) What is the probability that the PPS will not experience a HUGE RUN just as soon as the news that GOOD QUALITY DIAMONDS HAVE BEEN DISCOVERED ? - ZERO ! !

12) What is the probability that the PPS will Not go UP on news that CMKX has merged or taken over / bought out any of its J V Partners; or UCAD ? - ZERO ! !

13) What is the probability that CMKX will have insufficient funds available to actually mine anything they want to get out of the ground, in light of MULTIPLE DOZENS OF MILLIONS of DOLLARS ALREADY thrown at CMKX from UCAD, SGGM, the BRITISH Investment Group (BTW, that will start trading TOMORROW, THRS SEPT 30 on London Exchange!) ? - ZERO ! !

14) What is the probability that it is of NO significance that CMKX is ALREADY in a CONTRACTUAL PARTNERSHIP RELATIONSHIP with Rick Kusmirsky, who has VAST experience mining URANIUM for Cameco and one of the largest mining consortiums in the world - The Lundin Group, owned by Adolf Lundin? - ZERO ! !

15) What is the probability that if CMKX needed even more money, that it could not get it as easily as telephoning the CEO of the Israeli company DGI, which desperately wants to acquire diamond producing assetts and is on record as having TWO BILLION US DOLLARS at its disposal to do so? - ZERO ! !


JUST BECAUSE THE CHICKS THAT HANG OUT AT BARS MAY NOT BE THE KIND THAT YOU'D WANT TO TAKE HOME TO MOTHER DOES NOT MEAN THAT THERE ARE NOT PLENTY OF FISH IN THE SEA SHE WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU WITH!

WHY WOULD YOU LET A FEW DRUNKEN IDIOT NEWBIE INVESTORS KEEP YOU AWAY FROM THE GREATEST PENNY STOCK OPPORTUNITY OF ALL TIME?

WHY LET THE IDIOCY OF OTHERS ECLIPSE THE TREMENDOUS UNDER-VAALUATION OF THE MULTIPLE FUNDAMENTAL REASONS FOR OWNING THIS STOCK?

WHY RISK MISSING OUT ON THE GREATEST SHARE PRICE EXPLOSION OF A LIFETIME - THE ERUPTION OF MOUNT SAINT HELEN'S ?

OR VESUVIOUS?

OR CRACKATOA ?

I can not believe that you do not see the ABSOLUTELY STUPENDOUS FREE MONEY OPPORTUNITY HERE if you have taken just TWO HOURS to read ANYTHING in either

the CMKX folder in {Links} @ ShortSharks http://tinyurl.com/3dn4g

If you do not find ANY TWO OR THREE reasons from the 15 above BOTH SUFFICIENT AND COMPELLING ENOUGH TO BUY CMKX ASAP, then IMHO either you lack rudimantary reading &/or comprehension skills.

Absolutely DUMBFOUNDED at the perception on CMKX by any not yet long & HOLDING FA$T,

jawz_2020

[This message has been edited by Allstocks (edited September 30, 2004).]
 


Posted by MarthaStirIt on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tic_toc:
remember people dr d is on christian traders radio soon.
http://familyvaluesradio.com/index.html

It is on now.


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
Martha...i'm not bashing but the post you pasted there is why ppl that are negitive go crazy about this stock...i'm not in anyway saying don't post things like that, i'm glad you did, i get a good laugh reading that stuff but anyone that knows anything about the stock market knows no stock with a 800 billion o/s is going to soar even if everything in that post came true and buying out ucad is even a bigger dream the r/s that would need to happen for that would turn 1,000,000 shares into about 200 shares. i'm not saying cmkx won't do its shareholders well if they hold long term but its not a lottery ticket.
 
Posted by will on :
 
....and here is your biggest problem:

"9) What is the probability that the CMKX will not go significantly higher than .0003 once D Roger Glenn gets CMKX FULLY REPORTING AGAIN and Listed AT LEAST on the OTC (as on .ob vs an .pk stock) - ZERO ! ! "

Along with:

Share structure
Sample reporting
Progress of becoming a reporting Co.

Resolve those issues, and you might be on your way to something other than .0003.
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 

 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
My stance on CMKX hasn't ever wavered.High risk/high reward.

I bought in @ .0001 when alot of people were down on it hard.Glad I did too.1/2 my 6 mill. shares are free.Coulda woulda shoulda they all might have been.As much as people want to push or pull CMKX to me it's still high risk high reward.Just how I like it.

Will,you still watching Plasticon(was wkdh?
Thanks for the tip buddy.

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited September 29, 2004).]
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
Wait a minute hold the presses. That allstock warning said that if a company does not report to the sec stay away I thought all pink sheet stocks dont have reports with the sec. It also says that if a company says they are planning to be fully reporting to stay away. SO QUESTION HAS A COMPANY THAT TURNED FROM NON REPORTING TO FULL REPORTING STATUS EVER NOT STATED THEY WERE GOING TO BEFORE HAND??
LETS SAY FOR EXAMPLE RIGHT NOW MICROSOFT IS NON REPORTING AND THEY RELEASE A PRESS RELEASE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE FULLY REPORTING BY THE END OF THE YEAR. RIGHT NOW THEY ARE A PINK SHEET STOCK. I am supposed to stay away. end of the year comes they are fully reporting as stated in their press release. oops
question on press releases
As far as I know any press releases aside from future goals and forward looking things info that is stated as a fact would have to be true. like in a press release i state I have 5 corvettes. If I actually only had 2 and it was verified to be as such I could be liable big time. So how does a company with thousands of shareholders be able to get away with a lie in a pr. I would think at least a couple would research and find out if it was false post it everywhere and report the offences to the proper authorities sec. Also Why would a lawyer that represents Legit companies waste his time with one that was a scam. If I was a lawyer and most of my clients were upstanding I would not want to tarnish my image representing a company that was a scam and it would take something of importance and crediblity for me to represent a company who has 800 billion shares worth .0003 Maybe you say Im doing for the money I think I rather be paid by a company that wont destroy all cred I have. Point is that if Roger Glenn is representing a company that is stealing from 10s of thousands of people out of their money that would be the stupidest thing anyone could possibly do. He would become so well known for being so unethical It is impossible to fathom. He would not only ruin his reputation but that of the entire lawfirm that he represents and if anyone who invests in stocks ever saw his name or the lawfirms name involved I think they would stay away. So point is I think this is not a scam it would be just too foolish to have a scam on this scale.
 
Posted by MarthaStirIt on :
 
Sdrobert-You are exactly right. Roger Glenn has no reason to risk his reputation to work with CMKX if they are in any way scamming people. If on the other hand they are doing what they said they will do, have diamonds like their nearby neighbors (fairly likely given the geology of the area), and are naked shorted and being dogged by offshore hedge funds; then he has a chance to make the 42,000 shareholders very happy when he manages to bring them from the brink of death to a fully reporting company on the AMEX with the naked short position finally gone. If that happens he will be more famous and his already great reputation will increase to legend status.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Dear, dear Martha,

I won't pick apart that whole post with the 15 so-called reasons to buy in or stay with CMKX, just a couple for now.

You wrote or reposted:
Yes there is lots of negative crap that could easily deter anybody who is used to INVESTING and has never had much appetite for the RISK of SPECULATION on a penny or SUB-PENNY stock.

A: "Investing" is one thing. "Risk/speculation on a penny stock is little more than gambling.

1) What is the probablity that D Roger Glenn, who has ONLY Fortune 500 companies for clients would represent a scam? - ZERO ! !

A: "ONLY Fortune 500 companies"? Since when did CMKX, UCAD and any number of other companies become such?

PS: Your words are beginning to sound very familiar...expecially the "walk on water" part about Glenn. I wonder....

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 29, 2004).]
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Martha,I like your posts.And I like your interests on your profile."cooking and CMKX".
I wonder what CMKX is cooking?Smells good to me.LOL.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Martha,

You live in Westwood, MA, huh? How well do you know Debi?
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
From another board
http://knobias.10kwizard.com/filing.php?repo=tenk&ipage=3012370&doc=1&total=&back=2&g=&attach=on
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
dwman,

Read through that site quickly so may have missed a few things.

Anyone ever heard of Crystalix Group International, Inc.?

Where did CMKXTREME.COM come from? Know anything about it?

Noticed that that 8K showed no /s/ for Urban Casavant. Maybe it isn't required for another's 8K?

Noticed also the following:
RECITALS

A. CMKX has agreed to loan to the Company Two Million Dollars
($2,000,000) (the "Loan"), which Loan is convertible into Common Stock and the
Company has agreed to issue to CMKX warrants (the "Warrants") to purchase up to
2,500,000 shares of Common Stock, provided, among other things, that certain
securities registration rights are granted to CMKX.

Why would they be using CMKX's trading symbol? Does CMKX own CMKXTREME.COM?
Where did the $2 mil come from...privately or from CMKX? What was the loan for?

Some digging to do here!!!! Could this 8K be a complete fake or is it for real?


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Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
This could be CMKX's route to the OTCBB.
Now, there's a possibility something good may happen with CMKX.

Crystalix Group International is listed there with the symbol CYXG.Last was .20 pps.
Deal with CMKXTREME provides a way for CMKX to secure 51% control of CYXG with the loan.
SEE PS BELOW...this stmt is not correct.

Following info from Crystalix's latest 10QSB, 23 Sep 04 (edited):

SIX MONTHS ENDED JUNE 30, 2004 COMPARED TO JUNE 30, 2003.

Our revenue for the six months ended June 30, 2004 decreased by $1,315,734 or 37.0% from $3,554,459 for the six months ended June 30, 2003 to $2,238,725 for the six months ended June 30, 2004. The decrease is principally due the disposition of our retail stores in Las Vegas, Nevada in April 2003, a reduction in the glass products we sell our licensees and a reduction in our lease revenue due to licensees canceling their contracts in late 2003 and early 2004.


Research and development for the six months ended June 30, 2004 decreased by $51,018 or 100.0% from $51,018 for the six months ended June 30, 2003 to $0 for the six months ended June 30, 2004. The decrease is principally due to a decrease in product development due to lack of funds to finance such activities.

Payroll and related benefits for the six months ended June 30, 2004 decreased by $343,659 or 27.2% from $1,265,091 for the six months ended June 30, 2003 to $921,432 for the six months ended June 30, 2004. The decrease is a result of a reduction in personnel due to corporate downsizing in light of the reduction on revenue and a reduction in personnel in our retail sales staff as a result of the sale of our retail stores in Las Vegas in April 2003.


At June 30, 2004, we had a working capital deficit of $7,893,306, as compared to $6,311,497 at December 31, 2003. We had cash and cash equivalents of $44,654 at June 30, 2004 as compared to cash and cash equivalents of $58,881 at December 31, 2003. Our current cash on hand plus cash expected to be generated from operations will not be sufficient to sustain our current operations for the next twelve months. We will need to issue debt or equity securities in order to sustain operations until such time that we can generate positive cash flow from our operations.

During the six months ended June 30, 2004, our financing activities provided cash of $1,569,272, while our operating and investing activities used cash of $1,527,440 and $56,059, respectively. The cash used in operating activities was principally a result of the net loss we incurred. Our negative cash flow from operations was principally funded by borrowing additional amounts under a revolving line of credit from a related party.

During the six months ended June 30, 2004, we obtained $1,576,402 from advances from a related party under a revolving line of credit.

We recently restructured all of our related party debt as follows:

o On July 21, 2004, we issued a convertible promissory note to Mr. John Woodward in the amount of $1,824,000, which represents principal due on a previously issued note payable in the amount of $1,343,722 plus accrued interest in the amount of $480,279. This note bears interest at 10% per annum and calls for monthly interest payments from August 1, 2004 to December 1, 2004. Beginning on January 1, 2005, this note requires monthly principal payments of $50,405 plus accrued interest with any unpaid principal and interest due on July 1, 2007. The monthly principal and interest payments can be paid with shares of our common stock at the option of the holder. The conversion price is the lesser of the average closing price of our common stock five business days immediately prior to the conversion notice or $0.08. We have agreed to register the shares issuable upon conversion of this note. We have determined that there is a beneficial feature associated with this convertible promissory note in the amount of $615,600. This amount will be amortized as financing costs over the term of the note.

o On July 21, 2004, we issued a convertible promissory note to Mr. Kevin Ryan in the amount of $5,396,764, which represents (a) principal due on two previously issued notes payable in the amounts of $852,680 and $1,010,000, (b) principal due under a revolving credit agreement in the amount of $1,766,500, (c) principal due under an additional note payable in the amount of $1,500,000 and (d) accrued interest on the above mention obligations in the amount of $267,584. This note bears interest at 10% per annum and calls for monthly principal payments from August 1, 2004 to December 1, 2004 of $45,000. On the last day of the month beginning on August 31, 2004 through November 30, 2004, the accrued interest will be added to the principal amount. Beginning on January 1, 2005, this note requires monthly principal payments of $174,584 with any unpaid principal and interest due on July 1, 2007. The monthly principal and interest payments can be paid with shares of our common stock at the option of the holder. The conversion price is the lesser of the average closing price of our common stock five business days immediately prior to the conversion notice or $0.08. In addition, we granted to Mr. Ryan a warrant to purchase 1,875,000 shares of our common stock. The exercise price is lesser of the average closing price of our common stock five business days immediately prior to the notice of exercise or $0.08. We have agreed to register the shares issuable upon conversion of this note and exercise of the warrant. In accordance with EITF 00-27, we first determined the value of the note and the fair value of the detachable warrants issued in connection with this note. The estimated value of the warrants of $200,625 was determined using the Black-Scholes option pricing model and the following assumptions: term of 7 years, a risk free interest rate of 3.5%, a dividend yield of 0% and volatility of 371%. The face amount of the note payable of $5,396,764 was proportionately allocated to the note and the warrants in the amounts of $5,203,330 and $193,434, respectively. The value of the note was then allocated between the note and the preferential conversion feature, which amounted to $3,188,488 and $2,014,842, respectively. The combined total discount is $2,208,276, and is being amortized over the term of the note.

o On July 21, 2004, we issued a promissory note to Ryan Capital Management, Inc. (this company is controlled by Kevin Ryan) in the amount of $452,137, which represents principal due on a previously issued note payable in the amount of $400,000 plus accrued interest in the amount of $52,137. This note bears interest at 10% per annum and calls for monthly interest payments from August 1, 2004 to December 1, 2004. Beginning on January 1, 2005, this note requires monthly

principal payments of $37,902 plus accrued interest with any unpaid principal and interest due on December 1, 2005.

o On August 1, 2004, we issued a promissory note to McCary & Rood (this company is controlled by Kevin Ryan) in the amount of $280,000, which represents past due consulting fees under a consulting agreement dated May 28, 2003. This note calls for monthly payments beginning August 1, 2004 of $30,000 with any unpaid principal due on May 1, 2005.

o On August 1, 2004, we issued a promissory note to McCary & Rood in the amount of $214,037, which represents past due reimbursable expenses under a consulting agreement dated May 28, 2003. This note calls for monthly payments beginning August 1, 2004 of $30,000 with any unpaid principal due on March 1, 2005.

In addition, on July 21, 2004, we issued 3,019,000 shares of our common stock to Kevin Ryan as additional consideration for the financing provided to us. Also, certain holders of our Series A preferred stock reallocated 2,647,900 of their shares to certain investors and senior members of our management team. We will take a charge to financing costs and compensation expense of $2,747,011 and $409,275, respectively, related to the issuance and reallocation of these common and preferred shares.
-----------------------------------
There was also a reference in the 10QSB to NASCAR. Am guessing they might etch some glassware for sale in connection with NASCAR events.
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Please do not get too excited though. Read the parts above with reference to earnings, etc. However, if CMKX can get control and if CYGX is selling around .20, then a reverse merger will get CMKX on the OTCBB...providing they get control. Have no idea, if it works that way, what it might do to CMKX. It couldn't hurt as far as I can see.

HOW'S THAT FOR A BASHER????

PS: SORRY!!! CORRECTION. I misread the part about 51% control possibilities. Control is not applicable with the loan from CMKX. It referred to issuance of more shares of CYXG as it applied to the loan.

On further review, CYXG has 34+ mil shs I/0. No way CMKX can get control that I can see. Only connection seems to be the NASCAR thing and UC's hobby. I now think I may be 100% wrong about the positive possibilities.


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Posted by sdrobert on :
 
Wallace I have not read that post yet but is it possible that you are pumping cmkx wait till I tell glass on you!
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
sdrobert,

Sorry, but I think I got carried away trying to find something positive to say about CMKX. I did not read the part about 51% issuance carefully enough.

Now, my thoughts are right back to square one minus a $2 mil loan. I don't know why UC or CMKX might have given said loan except that Crystalix is involved with NASCAR.
Of course, if CMKXTREME.COM has nothing to do with CMKX proper, I can see why UC would want the deal. If they default, he gets 2.5 mil shs for .08 that are currently at .20 pps.

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Posted by sdrobert on :
 
I hope they are acting as two seperate entities cmkx.extreme and cmkx but I think they are one in the same. The bad thing is for a company that is supposed to be a exploration and mining company why are they so involved with things that have nothing to do with mining. Maybe Urban is helping out a relitive he seems to have a big family. AGH!!!! I remember when i was upset about the change in divy dates and I mentioned GLASS diamonds maybe I WAS RIGHT AGHHH Just kidding. Something in my gut still tells me to hold I hope my gut is right. Ill give it till I have the three divies after if no change in cmkx pps I think I will pull out of that one for a while that gives them about a month and a half. oh yeah
last time my gut talked I pulled out of cdvj/pavp. man was my gut right I pulled out with a whopping 10 dollar gain. If I didnt pull out when I did I would have lost about 4 thousand. you want to talk about a scam WOWZER thank you guts and I think I need to become a basher of that stock.
go cmkx dont let us down.
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
IF THERE IS ANYONE NAMED ROBBOB OR CASE THAT PUMPS CMKX IM OUT BASED ON THE FACT THEY ARE TRYING TO SELL SOME SCAM 99 DOLLARS A MONTH SITE BE WARNED AND PLEASE ANYONE TELL ME IF THEY COME IN HERE!!
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
sdrobert,
There is a poster here named case. You can see his posts on page 14 of this thread.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Got a robbob too. I don't think he's posted on this thread though.
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
CASE SEEMS TO BE OK PERSON ITS JUST THAT THE FIRST THREE LINES OF THE "JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON" SEEMS NO GOOD SOUNDS LIKE A BADLY WRITTEN COMERCIAL. TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO PAY 99 DOLLARS A MONTH TO FIND OUT WHICH STOCKS WILL DOUBLE MONTHS AHEAD OF TIME. YEAH RIGHT THAT HAS TO BE A SCAM. ILL CHECK ROBBOB I MIGHT GET BOOTED FOR MY BASHING ON THAT THREAD OH WELL CHECK IT OUT AND SEE IF YOU AGREE WITH ME

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Posted by sdrobert on :
 
THE THREAD TO SEE IS "JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON" PAY ATTENTION TO THE FIRST THREE LINES" anyhow Wallace you should check this out too. I hope I am wrong but some of the people that are pumping a crystal ball, charge you 99 dollars a month investor site, are speaking highly of cmkx that does not do good for my confidence in my stock pick please give me an honest opinion. I must check other threads and see if I can find other scams like that one like if there is anyone pumping a triangle scam and see if they talk about cmkx. I hope I am not on to anything dang it.
 
Posted by will on :
 
A triangle scam? Now you're sounding like Sterling with his double naked shorts.
LOL This never stops. Everyone gets whipped into a frenzy oneside or the other.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
sdrobert,

I don't recall seeing that thread, but will take a look. I damn well won't get involved there though. This thread is, by far, enough!
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
please check the thread "jump on the bandwagon" pay close attention to the first three lines and after check my last post my first ones are just smashes so just read my last one in there if you think I am right please leave those yahoos a responce too. Wallace I know you dont like scams.
This is an easy one and maybe we can start finding bad pumpers!!!
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
I bumped it too the top its in the micropennies section
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
sdrobert,

I think you have misunderstood that thread.

I am familiar with that $99 site, and, to the best of my knowledge, it is NOT A SCAM.
It provides a particular service more advanced than most posters here use. I do not use it because of the $99 cost. Guess I am cheap.

However, Dardadog does use it. He is one of the VERY BEST you will find posting on any of these Allstocks threads. Just like the rest of us, he is not always 100% right, but he wins in the longer run. You must remember that people like him are in and out very fast.

You will find a lot of those FREE sites Dardadog uses to be extremely useful for your own purposes. Add them to your favorites and try them out from time to time.

I have seen posts by other posters there as well and they do not seem to be promoting any scams whatsoever.

Maybe it was there, but I saw no reference to CMKX.

Again, it seems that you may have misunderstood the intent and content of the thread.
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
It seems to me I have run across what in my oppinion who are very possible paid pumpers, rich by 06, dardadog, and robob if you check all of there post there is not one skeptical remark with any stock all pumps. they messed up big time though with the "Jump On the bandwagon thread" if you go to my third to last post in there it makes alot of sence. watch out for these guys. I hope they are not the admins of allstocks or I might be gone.

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Posted by sdrobert on :
 
Wallace, You could be right so ill stop with this Ill check that 99 dollar thing too and leave my comments out of so I dont annoy anyone too much.
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sdrobert:
Wait a minute hold the presses. That allstock warning said that if a company does not report to the sec stay away I thought all pink sheet stocks dont have reports with the sec. It also says that if a company says they are planning to be fully reporting to stay away. SO QUESTION HAS A COMPANY THAT TURNED FROM NON REPORTING TO FULL REPORTING STATUS EVER NOT STATED THEY WERE GOING TO BEFORE HAND??
LETS SAY FOR EXAMPLE RIGHT NOW MICROSOFT IS NON REPORTING AND THEY RELEASE A PRESS RELEASE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE FULLY REPORTING BY THE END OF THE YEAR. RIGHT NOW THEY ARE A PINK SHEET STOCK. I am supposed to stay away. end of the year comes they are fully reporting as stated in their press release. oops
question on press releases
As far as I know any press releases aside from future goals and forward looking things info that is stated as a fact would have to be true. like in a press release i state I have 5 corvettes. If I actually only had 2 and it was verified to be as such I could be liable big time. So how does a company with thousands of shareholders be able to get away with a lie in a pr. I would think at least a couple would research and find out if it was false post it everywhere and report the offences to the proper authorities sec. Also Why would a lawyer that represents Legit companies waste his time with one that was a scam. If I was a lawyer and most of my clients were upstanding I would not want to tarnish my image representing a company that was a scam and it would take something of importance and crediblity for me to represent a company who has 800 billion shares worth .0003 Maybe you say Im doing for the money I think I rather be paid by a company that wont destroy all cred I have. Point is that if Roger Glenn is representing a company that is stealing from 10s of thousands of people out of their money that would be the stupidest thing anyone could possibly do. He would become so well known for being so unethical It is impossible to fathom. He would not only ruin his reputation but that of the entire lawfirm that he represents and if anyone who invests in stocks ever saw his name or the lawfirms name involved I think they would stay away. So point is I think this is not a scam it would be just too foolish to have a scam on this scale.

I really think it would be a great idea to research what type of lawsuits he has expertise in. If you look you'll see that he and his firm help unethical people that are in trouble. Who loses when they win is the stock holders. It's not imagine they are in business for, they are in it for the money.
Which of course thier reputation when they are able to help keep the company out of trouble!

PR's can and often are exageration. A few twists and turns. As far as CMKX's PR's are concerned there is lack of or confusing or uncomplete statements made.

 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
Maybe someone can start a list of cases that he has dealt with good and bad and let people decide. I think if anyone got in at .0001 or .0002 they are still safe. But if all the guy did was help out unsavory individuals we should find out now. Or if he helped good individuals great. if he helped both good and bad individuals than I guess the debate goes on.
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
ok lets say they help out a failing company and keep the company from going bankrupt wouldnt that help the shareholders? Since shareholders are technicaly partial owners in the company if the company is helped how can the shareholders not be considered helped also? I am not arguing I am actualy asking. how would they hurt us.
 
Posted by lanebro on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
netsec,

The problem with CMKX is that there are few if any positive things about it to post. The few positive things existing have been redundantly posted time after time. On the other hand, they (CMKX) keep doing (and not doing) one stupid fact after another. Further, there are far more protagonists on this thread than so-called bashers or negative posters.

That, basically, is why I cannot say anything positive about CMKX. As a result of all those numerous opposing facts, I do feel they must be presented...and they have been many times. Not just by me, but also by others, including CMKX shareholders. Some seem to want them reposted time after time. They know what said opposing facts are and cannot provide any logical defense whatsoever. Further, I don't much care if anyone calls me a basher. If CMKX is not a scam, it certainly bears all the earmarks of one. For your and others' sakes, I hope it is not. I cannot fathom how all the opposing facts can so easily be ignored or spun.

I have owned CMKX and I have sold CMKX. To me, it is simply just another stock where I may or may not be able to make money. I never "fall in love" with any stock".

I think a lot of newbies here have been sucked into buying CMKX as a result of some of the major posters here and on other boards...and that, as far as I am concerned, is a disservice. Readers should at least be able to consider dissenting points of view. Although many holders of CMKX on this thread consider that negative, I do not. I take a strictly objective approach.

As far as I can determine with valid DD and logical observations of CMKX convolutions and activities, the only thing CMKX has going for it is a remote possibility of finding diamonds...and they seem to be doing little or nothing to advance that objective.
In reality, they seem to be doing everything other than finding diamonds. You know those facts as well.

As far as whatever time I spend on this thread is concerned, if you count the number of my posts vs those of others, you will find that others post much, much more than I do. No offense to him, but noahltl is a very good example...and I do not blame him for posting his views. How in hell do you think there will be a forum with exchanges of facts, ideas, theories and opinions if there are no dissenting (positive or negative) points of view?

Another reason I post here is because I find the thought processes both fascinating and interesting...and in many cases comical (with the exception of one or more posters). In many ways, this is truly the blind leading the blind...and, in real life, even the blind do a better job of it. No offense to anyone, but it is quite obvious that the majority of posters here, and who are also CMKX shareholders, have little experience.

Enough for now. Got to get back to bashing. LOL


Wow, Wallace, you're my hero, could not have said that better.... my feelings, as well.
Thanks for putting it on paper(sic).
Hey, check arrive yet? Kidding.


 


Posted by lanebro on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ruh420:
If I was the ceo of a scam company, i'd do it like lsta, prim, etc, etc etc...nice and quiet like.

I wouldn't be a public figure who has personally met probably hundreds of shareholders, signed on however many scam companys.

I wouldn't own a VERY public racing team, let alone 3??.

I wouldn't feel safe scamming 40,000+ people, knowing there have already been death threats towards employees(IMO re: Melvin on paltalk).

I wouldn't involve my extended family.. unless we were a crime family of course.

I wouldn't be joining one of these other scam companies in a Las Vegas party with 4-6000+ already RSVP'd.

This, just like most things in life, is nothing more then point of view. There is mine. Have fun.



My POV?
Would anyone really not take a huge chance for 40M in your wallet? Death threats? Not a bodyguard at the track I've seen yet.
Good PR aye?
Please, be serious. Money changes people. Drag racing is so empowering, you'll ALWAYS find the money to continue on. Seen it first hand. Many years now.
That is the one thing you guys truly do not understand. It's a racing jones. Really. I mean no bad will for UC, little jealous perhaps; I just can't fathom your desire for this REAL diamond corporation. I hope you are right, for all your sakes. And NO, I am not a paid basher, I wish. Cake Walk.

 


Posted by lanebro on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by Wallace#1:
I was probably the only one here who sent an e-mail to BOB FREY stating that in my opinion you had done nothing to warrant being banned. While I don't agree with your methods, this is a forum where free speech (within certain guidlines) should prevail. Good day sir.

It's so ironic- Bob Frey is also THE announcer of the NHRA. The voice of NHRA. Freaky. I kept seeing this name... Funny how paths cross...

Additionally, free speech has truly broken down here. And who says we don't all own this stock, very speculative. (Perhaps just hate to admit it)
Intelligent people should appreciate Wallace's insight, even banter with him. Scary stuff I'm reading. You really SHOULD all go now. Who's got a gun to you.

 


Posted by Bob Frey on :
 
"Bob Frey is also THE announcer of the NHRA."

Not the same.
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i watched dardadog make around 3 grand earlier this week on 1 stock by noon. i've seen this happen a number of times in the last 6 months. if the site he uses helps him do that i'd have to say scam isn't part of the equasion. plus the site is mostly tools not picks.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
sdrobert,

Sorry, but I think I got carried away trying to find something positive to say about CMKX. I did not read the part about 51% issuance carefully enough.

Now, my thoughts are right back to square one minus a $2 mil loan. I don't know why UC or CMKX might have given said loan except that Crystalix is involved with NASCAR.
Of course, if CMKXTREME.COM has nothing to do with CMKX proper, I can see why UC would want the deal. If they default, he gets 2.5 mil shs for .08 that are currently at .20 pps.

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Wallace...I'm ashamed of you. lol See, this is why I told someone recently that I thought you were not a bad guy. But you are destroying the image I have of you.... Just kidding. Good work!!


 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
If you look you'll see that he and his firm help unethical people that are in trouble.

Trading... Please give examples. What unethical people? How do you know they are unethical? Is that an opinion? Post the URL please. If what you say is true we need to see it for ourselves. Thanks.


 


Posted by Captain_Nemo on :
 
CFGE very low float stock. They has big news out this morning. Could be first time big mover here
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bob Frey:
"Bob Frey is also THE announcer of the NHRA."

Not the same.


Now i am BUMMED.....

 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sdrobert:
It seems to me I have run across what in my oppinion who are very possible paid pumpers, rich by 06, dardadog, and robob if you check all of there post there is not one skeptical remark with any stock all pumps. they messed up big time though with the "Jump On the bandwagon thread" if you go to my third to last post in there it makes alot of sence. watch out for these guys. I hope they are not the admins of allstocks or I might be gone.


[This message has been edited by Allstocks (edited September 30, 2004).]



SD, pumpers(paid or not) spend hours trying to sell a stock. people like dog and now myself (i have been a dog student for months) will ALERT you to our OBSERVATIONS and move on. we are nothing more than people who realise that as Judas Preist put it...
out there is a fortune waiting to be had, if you thnk i'll let it go YOU'RE MAD.
LOL
 


Posted by pharmdman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Allstocks:
Most all are welcome at AllStocks.com.

All are welcome to come and go as they please.

Over 10,000 folks visited yesterday.

Do as you please.


And that's exactly what we'll do. Wallace is the main reason that I no longer post on this thread. I barely lurk on this thread anymore. At first, I just tried to ignore the wallace fights with everyone. I thought I'd just skip them and read the usefull stuff. THERE IS NO USEFULL INFOMATION PROVIDED HERE, IT'S JUST NONSTOP WALLACE ATTACKS ON OTHER POSTERS!

If you continue to allow this, you'll lose many people. If you're not worried about the loss of traffic, then you're doing better than I thought.

This thread should just be renamed "wallace". I'm out of here.

JUST REMEMBER FOLKS! WALLACE CLAIMS TO BE A STOCK EXPERT, BUT JUST A FEW SHORT MONTHS AGO HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT MM'S WERE OR 'WHO' JEFF AND NITE WERE. GO BACK AND READ THE LAST CMKX THREADS AND DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS!!... BUT IF IT WALKS LIKE A DUCK, AND TALKS LIKE A DUCK...."
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
Wallace, if you stop posting here, maybe it will go away, and we can all get on with life, liberty and the pursuit of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

let it go.....
if they decide to come back and continue the blatant pump, then go for it...
in the menatime, if this thread disappears from the board, LET IT!
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 

 
Posted by thinkmoney on :
 
Nothing personal glassman but I owm cmkx and want them to post. What I dont like most is Wallace's bashing of folks not just cmkx.

What I dont get is your attitde towards this stock. Why this one? Most folks pump the stocks they own. Nature of the game. I will agree ...if this is a scam then we should save the newbies. But as allstocks says 90% are probably scams in pennyland. I learned the hard way. When you make money, get out...

Why didnt you get on the reality and others with all the pumping on qbid?


 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
ThinkMoney.
Why Galssman is only here on this thread saving the newbies ?Thats because he lost his argument on this one when it went from 0001 to 0012. He wants to be right at least this time. I don't care if its a scam, if it goes back again to 0006 or more, I will make more money again and thats why I am here.

P.S: Glassman and Wallace may have buy orders at 0001 (and may be 0002)

GLTA

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Posted by JEAL on :
 
Hey what gives with UCA.V ??? No PR and up 26%?

UNITED CARINA (CDNX: UCA.V) Delayed quote data by Reuters

Last Trade: 0.48
Trade Time: 12:47PM ET
Change: 0.10 (26.32%)
Prev Close: 0.38
Open: 0.37
Bid: 0.46
Ask: 0.49
1y Target Est: N/A

Day's Range: 0.37 - 0.48
52wk Range: 0.125 - 0.41
Volume: 1,374,650
Avg Vol (3m): 56,450
Market Cap: N/A
P/E (ttm): N/A
EPS (ttm): 0.00
Div & Yield: N/A (N/A)



 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Sorry - Now up 30.26% and the volume is huge
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Shore Gold Inc. - Star Diamond Project: 1,590 carats to date
Thursday September 30, 1:22 pm ET


12.8, 8.3 and 4.5 carat diamonds in 196 carat parcel
Stock Symbol: SGF: TSX-VEN
SASKATOON, SK, Sept. 30 /CNW/ - George H. Read, P. Geo., Senior Vice President Exploration, is pleased to announce the seventh set of diamond recoveries from the Star Kimberlite. The diamond recoveries to date total 1,589.7 carats from 13,129 dry tonnes processed. These results are for four kimberlite batches of a total of some 80 to 100 kimberlite batches that will be processed as part of the bulk sampling program on the Star Diamond Project, the aim of which is to recover a parcel of some 3,000 carats for valuation purposes. A total of 1,297 commercial sized diamonds (greater than 1.18 millimetre square mesh screen), collectively weighing 194.65 carats, has been recovered from the treatment of 1005.56 dry tonnes of kimberlite. Thirty-three diamonds greater than one carat have been recovered and the four largest stones are: 12.84, 8.33, 4.05 and 2.91 carats, respectively. In addition, 152 diamonds (1.82 carats) were recovered down to 0.85 millimetre square mesh. The colour of 73 percent of these diamonds has been classified as white, with a further 15 percent classified as off-white.
These four kimberlite batches (of a total of 37 processed) have been mined from the Southeast drive (Batches 26, 27 and 28) and the North drive (Batch 29) developed from the 235 metre shaft station. All of these kimberlite batches have been recovered from within the Early Joli Fou equivalent kimberlite. Results to date have shown that higher diamond grades are associated with the Early Joli Fou equivalent kimberlite than with the Late Joli Fou equivalent kimberlite. The relationships between these two kimberlite types are illustrated in cross sections available on the Shore Gold website: www.shoregold.com.

Batches 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35A, 35B, 36 and 12A (all from 235 metre level) have been processed on-site and the concentrates dispatched to the sorting laboratory for final diamond recovery. Results from these batches are pending. A total of 14,974 dry tonnes has been processed through the on-site DMS plant. All batches processed to date are classified as crater facies volcaniclastic kimberlites.

Kimberlite processed and diamond results for four sample batches are listed in the table below. Grades are expressed in carats per hundred tonnes (cpht).


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Diamonds Largest
Batch Location Dry Number of Total Grade Stone
No. (metres below surface) Tonnes Stones (carats) (cpht) (carats)
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26 235 m Level: SE drive 184.04 319 60.82 33.05 12.84
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27 235 m Level: SE drive 292.38 330 41.52 14.20 2.86
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28 235 m Level: SE drive 297.51 493 60.21 20.24 2.91
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29 235 m Level: N drive 231.63 307 34.31 14.81 2.63
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Total 1,005.56 1,449 196.86 19.58
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The four largest stones are: 12.84 (Batch 26, Off White), 8.33 (Batch 26,
Grey), 4.05 (Batch 26, White) and 2.91 (Batch 28, Off White) carats,
respectively. Ten diamonds exceed two carats and 33 diamonds exceed one carat,
of which 17 are white, 9 are off-white, 6 are grey and 1 is yellow. A total of
66 diamonds exceed 0.5 carat. Seventy-three percent of the total diamond
parcel is classified white in colour, with a further 15 percent classified as
off-white. The diamond parcel includes 3 pink, 6 yellow and 4 amber stones.
Kimberlite Batch No. 28 has produced the largest pink diamond recovered to
date (0.72 carats). Ninety-nine percent of the carat weight of this parcel
occurs in diamonds greater than 1.18 millimetre square mesh.
Senior Vice President Exploration, George Read, states: "We have now
explored the 235 metre level with over 800 metres of underground lateral
development and we are rapidly approaching our bulk sample target of 25,000
tonnes of kimberlite. The results of this news release continue to show that
large diamonds are found throughout the underground development, particularly
in the Early Joli Fou equivalent kimberlite. Results to date show that the
overall average grade for the Early Joli Fou kimberlite has increased to
16.27 cpht (1,395 carats recovered from 8,576 tonnes)".
The diamond recovery procedure includes on site processing of kimberlite
through the modular dense media separator (DMS), after which DMS concentrates
are batch fed through an X-ray Flow-sort. In order to ensure the recovery of
low luminosity diamonds, the Flow-sort tailings are processed over a grease
table. Flow-sort and grease table concentrates are transported by a secure
carrier to SGS Lakefield Research for final diamond recovery. The SGS
Lakefield Research process includes drying, screening, magnetic separation,
manual sorting and diamond weighing and description. SGS Lakefield Research is
accredited to the ISO/IEC 17025 standard by the Standards Council of Canada as
a testing laboratory for specific tests.
Senior Vice President Exploration, George Read, Professional Geoscientist
in the Provinces of Saskatchewan and British Columbia, is the Qualified Person
responsible for the verification and quality assurance of analytical results.
The Star Diamond Project is designed to recover a parcel of at least
3,000 carats of diamonds to enable an accurate valuation of the stones. Up to
25,000 tonnes of kimberlite will be recovered from the shaft and drifts and
processed on site to produce this diamond parcel. Shore is a Canadian based
corporation engaged in the acquisition, exploration and development of mineral
properties. Shares of the Company trade on the TSX Venture Exchange under the
trading symbol "SGF".

"The TSX Venture Exchange has not reviewed and does not accept
responsibility for the adequacy or accuracy of this release"


 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Points to note in PR from SGF

1. 12+ carat diamond ( the wife woudl like that one I am sure )
2. Notice towards the bottom, they speak of the process for the sampling of kimberlite using, "The diamond recovery procedure includes on site processing of kimberlite
through the modular dense media separator (DMS), after which DMS concentrates
are batch fed through an X-ray Flow-sort. In order to ensure the recovery of
low luminosity diamonds......"
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
UCA
http://tinyurl.com/6waqz
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
tic_toc

I only have Yahoo open at work.
Thanks for the insight.

JEAL



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
quote:
Notice towards the bottom, they speak of the process for the sampling of kimberlite using, "The diamond recovery procedure includes on site processing of kimberlite
through the modular dense media separator (DMS), after which DMS concentrates
are batch fed through an X-ray Flow-sort. In order to ensure the recovery of
low luminosity diamonds......"

Well, that's one sampling method. I prefer CMKX's method of pulling up a bunch of slag with a fifty year old busted down drill that's held together with duct tape, then watch for the geologists eyes to "light up like a Christmas tree" as Melvin so aptly put it.

 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thinkmoney:
Nothing personal glassman but I owm cmkx and want them to post. What I dont like most is Wallace's bashing of folks not just cmkx.

What I dont get is your attitde towards this stock. Why this one? Most folks pump the stocks they own. Nature of the game. I will agree ...if this is a scam then we should save the newbies. But as allstocks says 90% are probably scams in pennyland. I learned the hard way. When you make money, get out...

Why didnt you get on the reality and others with all the pumping on qbid?


the QBID thing worked because they (QBID) weren't (IMO) dumping shares into the market.....i could be wrong, but interest just died off---if interest picks up again on QBID the PPS will go back up....

you guys know i'm not a basher. i just offered my opinionsabout what is going on here.....
the float here has been increasing since the beginning of the year....steadily....
the charts say so....
why does everybody ignore them????
because somebody insisted that there was a huge Naked Short. so huge that the perps would go bankrupt ....

where is NS squeeze???
was this a controlled rumor or just misjudgement?? do you think this NSS issue was malicious or was it just bad judgement and rumors??????

Wallace should watch his blood pressure IMO....

ask MOO and HI-way...i told them long ago this was going on. the question now is what is being done with the money raised....
is it being used to increase share value or is being used to start the next pump-n-dump?

as far as "scam" goes, i never called this a scam.....they are drilling for diamonds...but.......

 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
What this whole back and forth on this thread is about,people trying to defend something that would scare a mother away from her own son.If you look at cmkx there is no way anyone would buy right now other than a lottery ticket and with the o/s it's now a scratcher worth alot less even if it hits.Not one company they sold a percentage to had any money for years.Look i hope you all get rich,just be realistic and think how crazy these planned theory's are.I have one myself mlon, i might be left holding the empty bag.When negative facts come out i accept them.some of the things people defend for cmkx is crazy.Look at it from the outside if you follow what they have done and were an outsider you would say it was a scam.And you all know it's a big possibility.Just don't bury your heads in the sand.So IMHO you have a lottery ticket which on the surface has been looking worse.Facts are facts,truths are truths ,theory's are theory's.This is just my theory on the fued on this board.The people that post against it is because some people want to defend something that on any other stock would be called crazy.I truly hope there are diamonds,and want you to make money.Good Luck
 
Posted by thinkmoney on :
 
I actually find credibility - some intelligence - to your responses -
I just dont get why you singled cmkx as the "bash"?

Seems qbid may get the interest but IMO it was a PUMP awhile back. I dont know whether qbid or cmkx are scams but both have not produced anything to investors YET.

What is your take on cmkx loaning cyxg 2.5 M?
 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
I am not saying it is a scam.What i am saying is if you look at from the outside it sure looks like it could be.And if i owned this stock i would admit that it looked like it.And when negative things happened i would'nt try to defend them with some magic theory.Of course iwould still say i thought they were going to find diamonds and would still be hopefull.Also to be fair behind the scenes nobody knows whats going on.Have'nt looked into that deal.Good Luck
quote:
Originally posted by thinkmoney:
I actually find credibility - some intelligence - to your responses -
I just dont get why you singled cmkx as the "bash"?

Seems qbid may get the interest but IMO it was a PUMP awhile back. I dont know whether qbid or cmkx are scams but both have not produced anything to investors YET.

What is your take on cmkx loaning cyxg 2.5 M?



 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
Just aside to CMKX, the Mt. St. Helen is about to errupt: http://www.pnsn.org/NEWS/PRESS_RELEASES/MSH_09_2004.html
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Damn, that Melvin is a genius!
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
to bad we didn't get shares of our canadian partners too but then we couldn't treade them any easier then CIM

well next week we are supposed to get UCAD. i think we need a bookie in here for odds on if its going to happen. wonder why GEMM was pushed back 1 1/2 months. green baron has a new posting about cmkx but it wasn't worth pasting in here.
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by thinkmoney:
I actually find credibility - some intelligence - to your responses -
I just dont get why you singled cmkx as the "bash"?

Seems qbid may get the interest but IMO it was a PUMP awhile back. I dont know whether qbid or cmkx are scams but both have not produced anything to investors YET.

What is your take on cmkx loaning cyxg 2.5 M?


mutiple answer question...LOL

a) don't treat people with VALID points rudely....somebody told me i was dumb and wrong...guaranteed to get a war started.i enjoy debating, esp. when i'm correct.

b)pennies is a big poker game, don't deal from the bottom of the deck.

c)don't ABuse religion. i agree with Wallace on this one. it's wrong to take advantage of people's FAITH in money and politics..just my opinion.....

e)this has had the STRONG smell of $$pump on it.......there are pennies that are actually worth this strong of an effort that don't get the time of day....wonder why??????

the cyxg loan i have yet to DD. i'm not really interested in DD'ing this right now, there is much more intereting stuff going on....
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Damn, that Melvin is a genius!

you said it, but I was thinking the same - what a coincidence!
 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
Question for CMKX longs:

What'd you do if you don't get UCAD divy next week or if its pushed back again? Would you sell?
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Nope, why sell?
 
Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
Upside,
I never knew that you are long?
Ok then, would you atleast say 'something is fishy'?


quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Nope, why sell?


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
The only reason I'm long is because I have to be. I was originally in at .0002, then in a moment of weakness I doubled my position at .0005. My average is .0035 now, not in a bad spot but I'm not selling because I still believe that somehow, someway this thing will have another run someday. I'll hold until that happens or they go under. Something fishy? Ever smell a week old barrel of fish left out in the sun? Yeah, somethings fishy alright.
 
Posted by case on :
 
TruthTeller:
I wouldn't sell!
I've played stocks that in no way no how seemed like a scam, and had them turn out to be scams. I have to admit I have doubts now and then, but Heck I even had doubts about Qbid and seen the people saying the same thing about Qbid as with CMKX and every day my faith builds that Qbid isn't going to be a scam. http://www.chicago2006.org/media/article.php?aid=42
(just wish I would of picked up more)
Plus I'd feel a little funny at the Party if
I didn't have some shares!!!


"What'd you do if you don't get UCAD divy next week or if its pushed back again? Would you sell?"


 


Posted by will on :
 
I am not a long, but I will answer for most of them, probably. Seeing that there has to be an accounting for all O/S if/when this dividend is paid, (actually that should have been reconciled by 8/20/04), that should be avaiable also. Lastly regarding this divdend "they" were counting on it triggering the "squeeze of the cebtury".
Their answer is NO I WON'T SELL. They will tell you they didn't buy the stock for dividends or for the "squeeze of the century." They did however, bet their hat ass and gloves that it would happen. One of them would buy more, and announce they did when a dividend was declared, the reasoning was the "squeeze of the century." When this payment date was changed one said, "Roger springs the trap", and explained it with some type of premature UCAD payment in peopels account. It's on this thread, you can go read it, it's laughable.
Now if the dividend is not paid 10/06/04, and it postponed, guess what? The "squeeze of the century", will be delayed, yet again. By all logic and reasoning the "squeeze of the century", should have ocurred 8/20/04, and it never materialized. You see, I asked the same question of them back on 9/22/04, or so, and pretty much am paraphrazing their answers back then.
Now will I sell? NO! Do I have 50 million shares+, do I have $10,000, $20,000, $30,000+ tied up in this doubtful, dubious, slippery, lying, nonforthcoming, company. NO! Most of the diehard longs do. Will they admit an error in jusdgement? NO! They will read this, dismiss as bashing, call it laughable, tell me I find negatives where there aren't any, and finally I don't understand what is going on with this stock. Well I hope it takes a little double from the curretn PPS, and I won't have to understand anything. They on the other hand are jammed for big money.
This is cheap entertainment for me, and probably expensive stress for some of those heavy holding longs.

quote:
Originally posted by TruthTeller:
Question for CMKX longs:

What'd you do if you don't get UCAD divy next week or if its pushed back again? Would you sell?



 


Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
Does anybody know how or if the 200,000,000 shares of sggm are going to be distributed?
 
Posted by will on :
 
Here let me give you an example of denial. Look at this post. Tamie clearly left because of Melvin saying CMKX's offices were in Urban's home. She clearly says that in her own unedited text. Yet since seeing this, one long commented, "the proverbial straw", another ignored it, and said the reason Tamie left was Wallace's constant bashing.
There you go, even when faced with a simple fact, in black and white, text, typed from her own little fingers, they DENY it, and blame it on Wallace. I guess her comment makes Melvin a basher now.

quote:
Originally posted by will:
Melvin in one of his paltalk visits said the only office he knew of was in Urban's home.
That's what did it for Tamie:

Tamie
Member posted September 01, 2004 10:12

"well I hate to say it but with all this uncertainty circling this stock I do not feel secure holding any stocks in it. I am going to sell what I am holding today. As a business owner there are things you do and dont do and to me a corporate headquarters being casavants home is a definite no no. IMO. Just seems to me that we are financing his extra curricular activity at this point. If things were to change and they were to become fully reporting it would be different. but at this point they have no one to answer to."


[This message has been edited by will (edited September 30, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by will (edited September 30, 2004).]
 


Posted by glassman on :
 

the price tanked because;
there was no NSS
the AS was raised to 800 mmmmmbillion


not because anybody bashed it...LOL

 


Posted by will on :
 
...and they will deny that too.
You could hold white hot coals to their eyes, and they will swear to you that the "squeeze of the century", will ocurr. That Urban owns all the O/S, everyone else is naked.
Shucks, they might even tell you that they're going to buy more at these sales prices.

quote:
Originally posted by glassman:

the price tanked because;
there was no NSS
the AS was raised to 800 mmmmmbillion


not because anybody bashed it...LOL



 


Posted by will on :
 
There are so many dividends I can't keep track. Was there a dividend announced for SGGM? I don't recall a dividend, I know of three, UCAD, CIM, and GEMM.
quote:
Originally posted by DIGDOUGH:
Does anybody know how or if the 200,000,000 shares of sggm are going to be distributed?


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Glass wrote:

a) don't treat people with VALID points rudely....somebody told me i was dumb and wrong...guaranteed to get a war started.i enjoy debating, esp. when i'm correct.

b)pennies is a big poker game, don't deal from the bottom of the deck.

c)don't ABuse religion. i agree with Wallace on this one. it's wrong to take advantage of people's FAITH in money and politics..just my opinion.....

e)this has had the STRONG smell of $$pump on it.......there are pennies that are actually worth this strong of an effort that don't get the time of day....wonder why??????
-------------------------------------------

My sentiments exactly!

By the way, my blood pressure is fine. Always has been.

I did review CYXG. There is nothing to recommend pouring $2 mil into it by CMKX if that is where the money came from. Just the opposite...put it into drilling and drilling equipment. Look at the 10QSB.

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited September 30, 2004).]
 


Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Here let me give you an example of denial. Look at this post. Tamie clearly left because of Melvin saying CMKX's offices were in Urban's home. She clearly says that in her own unedited text. Yet since seeing this, one long commented, "the proverbial straw", another ignored it, and said the reason Tamie left was Wallace's constant bashing.
There you go, even when faced with a simple fact, in black and white, text, typed from her own little fingers, they DENY it, and blame it on Wallace. I guess her comment makes Melvin a basher now.

[This message has been edited by will (edited September 30, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by will (edited September 30, 2004).]


Will,

This is the post that you use to verify your reasons for not being long on CMKX? This is your quote to show us all how stupid we are? I, for one, don't know Tamie...never knew her...don't even know if she's for real. For that fact, you don't know if I'm for real. Kind of funny, huh? We all make these bold predictions of wealth and doom, yet nobody knows if we have the goods or not.

I'm not going to let pathetic DD like this determine my stand on a company. I'm not got to rely on pumping theories, either. I didn't buy into this stock because I thought it was naked shorted to death. I'll bet that 95% of the stockholders bought because there is a good chance that there are diamonds/minerals that will show some value.

The core sample results will dictate to me whether I hold or sell. I've quit reading this thread on a regular basis because there is very little discussion of diamonds.

DIAMONDS, that's the whole reason this may or may not be a good investment. Anything else discussed, short of share structure, is trivial. Whether you are in it for the long haul or to make a quick buck, it's the core sample results that will make or break this thing.

I believe that we've found something very big along the lines of minerals. There's nothing else that would explain the silence. If the diamond/mineral find is as good as I'd hope, there would be no way I would release those results without cleaning house and getting this company reporting and ready for institutional investing.

Why would they want to announce that at this time?


 


Posted by will on :
 
Look at the majority of my posts as far back as early June. You will see I have been saying this company is not forthcoming. When they do PR they are, unclear, incomplete, confusing, ambiguous. The only thing I have been asking are for the same things you sited:

O/S, share structure
Sample Reports
Progress of becoming a reporting company.

My couple of previous posts were answering a question if longs would sell if the dividend wasn't paid on 10/6, and to show even simple facts are denied by some. What little I have (1.5M), yes I will hold to make money on them. This company is terribly mismanaged. I never said you were stupid for holding, I just pointed out how easily some folks here deny facts, and replace them with hopes, dreams, and impossible theories. If you're stupid, I'm stupid, because I own this POS too.

quote:
Originally posted by WorkAHolic:
Will,

This is the post that you use to verify your reasons for not being long on CMKX? This is your quote to show us all how stupid we are? I, for one, don't know Tamie...never knew her...don't even know if she's for real. For that fact, you don't know if I'm for real. Kind of funny, huh? We all make these bold predictions of wealth and doom, yet nobody knows if we have the goods or not.

I'm not going to let pathetic DD like this determine my stand on a company. I'm not got to rely on pumping theories, either. I didn't buy into this stock because I thought it was naked shorted to death. I'll bet that 95% of the stockholders bought because there is a good chance that there are diamonds/minerals that will show some value.

The core sample results will dictate to me whether I hold or sell. I've quit reading this thread on a regular basis because there is very little discussion of diamonds.

DIAMONDS, that's the whole reason this may or may not be a good investment. Anything else discussed, short of share structure, is trivial. Whether you are in it for the long haul or to make a quick buck, it's the core sample results that will make or break this thing.

I believe that we've found something very big along the lines of minerals. There's nothing else that would explain the silence. If the diamond/mineral find is as good as I'd hope, there would be no way I would release those results without cleaning house and getting this company reporting and ready for institutional investing.

Why would they want to announce that at this time?



 


Posted by will on :
 
Work wrote:
"I believe that we've found something very big along the lines of minerals. There's nothing else that would explain the silence. If the diamond/mineral find is as good as I'd hope, there would be no way I would release those results without cleaning house and getting this company reporting and ready for institutional investing."

Nothing else to explain the silence?
How bout if they found nothing?
Would they be so ready to announce that fact, or be silent?

I hope they did find a sh|t load of diamonds. I hope they become reporting, but just how long does that process take?
 


Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
Will wrote:"Nothing else to explain the silence?
How bout if they found nothing?
Would they be so ready to announce that fact, or be silent?

I hope they did find a sh|t load of diamonds. I hope they become reporting, but just how long does that process take? "


Your point would carry weight if there was not a lot of activity and discoveries in the area. There are millions of dollars being invested in the immediate area and the results of sampling have been bordering on amazing. This area is not a long shot. Just the amount of anomolies discovered throught the aerial survey points to an almost certainty of mineable resources.

I'll admit that taking a shot in the dark or even on some decent geology is a long shot and very risky at best. However, in this area, it appears to be like shooting fish out of a barrel...(ok, maybe not that sure of a thing), but you get the idea.

IMO, we have a better chance of finding something valuable than not finding anything. However, only time will tell. If the core samples were bad, these guys could have dumped and run. That's not happening here.

They are digging in.

I don't think anyone can question that. Just because we don't have concrete answers doesn't mean the answers are not what we want. On the contrary, it appears the answers will be good news.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Will,

I went back and checked the PRs on SGGM. There was no mention that those 200 billion shares would be distributed as a dividend.

However, I do seem to remember something to the effect that UC stated all shares of other companies acquired through deals would be distributed. Could be wrong though on this.
 


Posted by will on :
 
Just another carrot, Wallace. Could come about, but there wasn't any SGGM dividend.
They're selling off claims, and replacing them with restricted dividends. Just how valuable are these dividends? How valuable will they be in a year? Did I read someone figured they're getting $9 dividend of GEMM for every million shares of CMKX? WOW! isn't that bonus. All these dividends are nothing more than a lollypop your not going to be able to lick for year, and by then they'll taste like sh|t.
Where is Roger Glenn's skill, abilty, experience, genius? I say three months having him aboard, and no evidence of progrees to become reporting, why not?

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Will,

I went back and checked the PRs on SGGM. There was no mention that those 200 billion shares would be distributed as a dividend.

However, I do seem to remember something to the effect that UC stated all shares of other companies acquired through deals would be distributed. Could be wrong though on this.



 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Will, I'm not going to touch any of those questions you asked!!! Please ask someone else, OK? LOL
 
Posted by will on :
 
They can't be answered. None of the open issues, questions that matter can be answered by anyone but CMKX. They are not in the habit of disclosing or publishing anything that isn't incomplete or ambiguous. Those are questions that the believers need to ask themselves.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Will:
quote:
Did I read someone figured they're getting $9 dividend of GEMM for every million shares of CMKX?

Yeah, that was me and that's based on CMKX only having 400 billion outstanding and a .035 price for GEMM which is at .031 today.
 


Posted by will on :
 
That one isn't restricted, is it?

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by Will:
Yeah, that was me and that's based on CMKX only having 400 billion outstanding and a .035 price for GEMM which is at .031 today.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Nope, You can trade it immediately.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Well, at least you don't have to wait a year to see what the other lollypops will taste like. The GEMMpop will let you know what you're in for.


quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Nope, You can trade it immediately.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Sure, if you don't mind winding up with next to nothing after commission. I'll sell mine, thanks for the 5 bucks Urban! You're a great guy!
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
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How To Go Public Without Cost

By William Cate


How Can You Become a Public Company Without Cost?

The 1934 Securities Act states that any private company with over 500
public shareholders is a public (reporting) company. In his book, Going
Public, Frederick Lipman, an experienced securities attorney, observes
that any public company may sponsor a private company by distributing
free stock of the private company to their shareholders. The industry
refers to a private company that goes public using this stock
distribution strategy as a Spinoff.


Why Will Public Companies Sponsor Spinoffs?

The public company sponsor usually gets 10% of the private company's
stock. The public company distributes half this stock (5%) to their
shareholders. By regularly paying their shareholders Spinoff stock
dividends, the public company keeps their shareholders. The public
company retains 5% of the private company's stock as a corporate asset.
This stock enhances the net worth of the public company. The public
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company's stock to their shareholders. This makes going public a cost
free service for the private company.


Why Should Any Private Company Go Public?

* Doing private placements is easier for a public company. Your company
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* A public company can use its stock to buy corporate assets. By buying
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* When it comes time to sell your public company, the sale price will be
your company's share price multiplied by the number of issued shares.
The share sale price is usually greater than a sale price based on your
company's balance sheet.

* Business groups buying recently privatized Foreign Government
industries gain substantial insurance against a future Government
nationalization by becoming a U.S.Public Company.


How Does a Spinoff Compare With an Initial Public Offering (IPO)?

For an operating company, the average cost of doing an IPO is around
$750,000. It takes 18 months. Over half the private companies that
decide to go public with an IPO abandon the process before they become a
public company.

In a Spinoff, the public company sponsor pays your costs. It takes about
four months for your private company to become publicly trading.

If you do an IPO, you're not required to distribute any free stock to
the public. However, most IPO underwriters price the IPO stock at 15%
below the net worth of the company. This effectively gives the public
shareholders 15% of the private company free.


Where Do Spinoffs Trade?

A Spinoff is a public company. It will trade over-the-counter (OTC), if
it doesn't qualify to trade on a stock exchange. The public companies
that regularly sponsor Spinoffs, usually arrange to have the new public
company trade on the NASD Automatic Bulletin Board.


Why Shouldn't a Private Company Do a Spinoff?

* It's rarely cost effective to arrange a PUBLIC financing for a U. S.
Public Company. Unless you can arrange a private placement, you must be
certain that your broker or consultant has the contacts to fund your
Spinoff.

* The sponsoring company usually wants a seat on your Board of
Directors. As Mr. Lipman comments, the sponsor can be legally liable for
the misdeeds of the Spinoff.

* It's nearly impossible to find a Spinoff sponsor for a concept-
company. The potential of legal liability ensures that sponsors want
quality operating private companies for this process.

* A public company has a responsibility to its shareholders. As a matter
of corporate self-interest, the public company must insure a strong
share price. This responsibility adds ongoing costs to any company's
operation. Whether your public company trades OTC or on the NYSE,
investor relations will be part of your annual expenditures.


Why Aren't Spinoffs Popular?

* Every industry wants to sell products that make their members the most
money. The Spinoff saves you money. But, securities attorneys lose
income. U. S. brokerage firms make less money doing Private Placement
than public offerings. Financial printers lose money, etc. It isn't in
the Industries best interest to mention a Spinoff to the CFO of a
private company.

* Most OTC company insiders want to dump their stock quickly. The stock
in a Spinoff is restricted stock (subject to SEC Rule 144). Since
insiders can get free trading stock by buying a Trading Shell, they
avoid Spinoffs.

* Few public companies will sponsor Spinoffs because of the legal
liability problem.

Spinoffs work, but they may not work for your company. Discuss this
business strategy with your attorney & accountant. Seek an opinion from
a business consultant or stock broker familiar with Spinoffs. Knowing
that Spinoffs exist means you have half your answer about using a
Spinoff.
==========
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finance consultant for various public & private companies and individual
investors since '81, edits & publishes Investor Alert, and offers the
Equity Financing Workshop for private companies seeking to go public.

-----
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Posted by Royals on :
 
Since many are talking about leaving this thread I would like to say that I find the DD here informative and for the most part entertaining. I don't add much in the way of facts or banter but like to lurk. Thanks again.
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
hey royals are you from KC?
 
Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
So not many longs answered the question. Thanks to those who answered.
My answer/strategy is pretty much same like Upside. I am holding my 8M because I think (hope??) it will have another run some day.

GLTA
 


Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TruthTeller:
Question for CMKX longs:

What'd you do if you don't get UCAD divy next week or if its pushed back again? Would you sell?


Didn't even see the question, but since you pointed it out...

I'd probably not sell. I don't have a lot of cash invested. My pps is about .00015, so if it tanks back to .0001 I'm out about a grand. Would I be concerned? Absolutely. I've been through something similar with GMDP.

What I think is going on with CMKX is management spending way too much time wheeling and dealing and way too little effort looking for diamonds. I think eventually CMKX will be reverse merged with some other company (which will turn out to be an effective reverse split) and the process will continue. The only thing is can some of us "little guys" manage to make some money on all this. Some will but most of us won't because we believe in "the dream" of getting fantastically rich on this and will get caught when the stock "resets".

Sorry to be a cynic. And I'm not bashing, just stating what I think is going on. For what it's worth I plan on holding for the dream (yeah, I'm probably being foolish on this). But just like the lottery, you know deep down your probably going to loose but you get a lot of pleasure know you at least have a chance to get filthy rich and it's fun to imagine the "what ifs".


------------------
~,-,-< GatorMan

[edited to correct spelling mistakes]

[This message has been edited by GatorMan (edited October 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TruthTeller:
Question for CMKX longs:

What'd you do if you don't get UCAD divy next week or if its pushed back again? Would you sell?


The UCAD divvy's: they don't mean a thing 'cause they ain't got that swing...like DIAMONDS!! SGGM, CIM, GEMM, AMFM, ACDC, LSMFT, NASA...just letters on a slow scrolling page. Since you asked I'll either sell or lose the whole lot when I find out there no DIAMONDS!! Absolutely NOTHING here to get worked up about. 4 MIL at '2 & '3, not much to lose, but a considerable gain if... The long shot has always been the sentimental favorite. Too many chefs watching this pot and they don't even have the main ingredient...DIAMONDS!!
Another problem on this thread: failure to communicate i.e. intellectual failures attempting to communicate. All up in the Kool Aid and don't even know the flavor. MPO

 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
STOCK IS TANKING AGAIN.
Shares are being dumped like mad today!
9,999,900 blocks.
 
Posted by Vinny on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
STOCK IS TANKING AGAIN.
Shares are being dumped like mad today!
9,999,900 blocks.

It's bs...don't believe it...just mm's trading shares between themselves...glta
 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
May be..
I have a buy order for 0002.. no fill

quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
STOCK IS TANKING AGAIN.
Shares are being dumped like mad today!
9,999,900 blocks.

[This message has been edited by TruthTeller (edited October 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
1/2 billion shares dumped in 3 hrs.
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
Ok maybe there isn't a divdend on sggm ,but I read that they payed 200,000,000,000 shares of their stock along with 10 million dollars to get a piece of cmkx and I don't know where that loot is going

quote:
Originally posted by will:
There are so many dividends I can't keep track. Was there a dividend announced for SGGM? I don't recall a dividend, I know of three, UCAD, CIM, and GEMM.


 


Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
I wish they would find uranium, theres a legitimate shortage of that in the world right now.


quote:
Originally posted by Justhis1ce:
The UCAD divvy's: they don't mean a thing 'cause they ain't got that swing...like DIAMONDS!! SGGM, CIM, GEMM, AMFM, ACDC, LSMFT, NASA...just letters on a slow scrolling page. Since you asked I'll either sell or lose the whole lot when I find out there no DIAMONDS!! Absolutely NOTHING here to get worked up about. 4 MIL at '2 & '3, not much to lose, but a considerable gain if... The long shot has always been the sentimental favorite. Too many chefs watching this pot and they don't even have the main ingredient...DIAMONDS!!
Another problem on this thread: failure to communicate i.e. intellectual failures attempting to communicate. All up in the Kool Aid and don't even know the flavor. MPO


 


Posted by pharmdman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DIGDOUGH:
I wish they would find uranium, theres a legitimate shortage of that in the world right now.



Maybe they should dig in Iran or North Korea! LOL

[edit spelling]

[This message has been edited by pharmdman (edited October 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DIGDOUGH:
Ok maybe there isn't a divdend on sggm ,but I read that they payed 200,000,000,000 shares of their stock along with 10 million dollars to get a piece of cmkx and I don't know where that loot is going


Race cars and parties.

------------------
~,-,-< GatorMan
 


Posted by netsec on :
 
Anyone watch those 9,999,999 blocks go through? About 7 of them in 2 min all at .0002$.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/cik.pl.c
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by netsec:
Anyone watch those 9,999,999 blocks go through? About 7 of them in 2 min all at .0002$.

Yep! It will probly be tanking to 0.0002 soon.
 


Posted by Rags2BetahRags on :
 
NEW BUSINESS: Our Profile List stock St. George Metals, Inc. (OTCBB: SGGM 0.01 x 0.02) issued a Press Release announcing that the Company has finalized a joint venture agreement where St. George Metals, Inc. (Pink Sheets:SGGM) will purchase a 5% unencumbered and absolute interest in any and all mineral claims held by CMKM Diamonds, Inc. in consideration for $10,000,000 US Dollars and two hundred billion (200,000,000,000) restricted shares of SGGM.
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/cik.pl.c

Link didn't work

 


Posted by Rags2BetahRags on :
 
I dont follow this stock nor do I personally like it But this looked interesting to those that are invested in it and wanted to show what I came across even if it is behind everyone else. I just thought I would share it not that it is rocket science or that anyone didnt already know.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
It gives cik index number. I'm trying to figure out how to access the full report.

Looks like they filed today.
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
looks like they filed something at 15:58 today.
 
Posted by musicamex on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/cik.pl.c


huh? link didn't work.

gator man---i'm with you on that one. race cars like "notfunny cars". i used to race drag cars in my youth. from what i have seen of their drag machines i know they have some major jack tied up in them and wonder why that money didn't go into a good drill rig.

i have been following this stock for so long, i think their real calling is a tv mini series. best plot i've seen in years.


 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Sorry... Looks like I jumped the gun. I called SEC and gave them the CIK number that I pulled up and she said that the latest filings were from Jul 2003 for Casavant mining kimberlite international. Forgive me.
 
Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Just got this reply from Ameritrade:. If this is old news, sorry - I can't keep this stuff straight anymore.

Thank you for contacting us today concerning CIM.

Preliminary information has indicated that the payable date for the CIM spin-off shares has been pushed back to 10/18/04. You may contact the company directly for more information.

If you have further concerns or inquiries, please reply to this message.

Sincerely,

Rebecca Henson
Apex Client Services, Ameritrade
Division of Ameritrade, Inc.
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
http://stockpatrol.com/schlock/doghouse/u_cmkm5.html

CMKX is on watch with STOCK PATROL.

Be careful !!!
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
Earth-shaker
That was posted back on the 7th. It may have been posted more than once. Old news is not too scary especially coming from stock patrol.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
the uranium in north korea is ours, clinton gave it to them, now the stuff in iran???...lol
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ppl speculating on uranium..ya think maybe shore gold or debeers might have found uranium too since the place we are now drilling is right between both them?? the only thing cmkx will find is diamonds. if shore or debeers found uranium we would know it. as for finding it in some of the other claims we have?? well they have drilled 2 - 2 1/2" holes in 2 places in 1 yr with 100 anomolies at the rate they are moving 200 yrs from now we might know. i still believe we will be rewarded for holding long term but for the thousands of shareholders with a few million shares we won't be buying any new cars with the reward.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
netsec,

That number (9,999,999) does not have to be considered unusual. Choice Trade allows trades up to 10,000,000 minus 1 share. So, they could be from someone with either that or a similar account.
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
just remember, no matter how slowly they drill, as long as the DO drill, they are NOT a scam........
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
i dont know if any one has brought this forward. but i got a letter today stating that they ucan shares that where supposed to be paid out on Sept 24th are now being paid out on Oct6th. I know we all knew that much, but they also have lowered the amount being paid out. they originally where giving 15 shares per million and as of todays letter that i recieved they have lowered it to 8.5 per million.

i thought that i read that they where going to increase the number of shares.

please fill me in if im out to lunch on this one.


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
looks like they even lowered it more. it went from 15.5 per million to 9.5 per million which gave us the 783 billion o/s number that figure makes the o/s 882,352,941,176 which unless its been changed again is over the a/s of 800 billion seems like every month another 100 billion gets added to the o/s at .0003 thats $30 million somebody sure is making a few bucks on this and its not the shareholders.
 
Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
Bill..
Can't agree more, it sure looks like CMKX is dumping more shares. May be UC is dumping more shares so that more people get hold of them and more millionaires can be made.


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Rumor was Tommy Boy,er I mean, Melvin was gone...

His response yesterday...
Melvin says;

Good afternoon, I have not been replaced or quit this fine company.

I will continue to do my job for the company.

I would like to apologize to the bad comment I made about the motherload. It was uncalled for and I'm sorry.

I would never jepordize this company by saying things that are not true.

I believe in this company and Urban. But mostly I believe in you people.

I know you all want answers and I will continue to do my best to get them for you. I respect each of you, and all I ask is respect in return. In closing All I ask is you believe in this company and you believe in me the IR person. With your help we will make this company vialable and make this company work.

Thank you for your time, god bless.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
My response,on his response...I just think he's felling guilty Mt. St. Helens was erupting before CMKX did.LOL...I bet He didn't expect that happening.


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
with 800 or 900 billion o/s this company can not work the way a number of ppl were talking. there are a number of better then $1 pps but the biggest o/s in any of them i've seen is 90 billion and they make money. this stock is going to need huge news just to get to .001. should get an account that can trade canadian stocks & buy UCA & KPG then when they hit those diamonds might make big money.
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
Rumor was Tommy Boy,er I mean, Melvin was gone...

His response yesterday...
Melvin says;

Good afternoon, I have not been replaced or quit this fine company.

I will continue to do my job for the company.

I would like to apologize to the bad comment I made about the motherload. It was uncalled for and I'm sorry.

I would never jepordize this company by saying things that are not true.

I believe in this company and Urban. But mostly I believe in you people.

I know you all want answers and I will continue to do my best to get them for you. I respect each of you, and all I ask is respect in return. In closing All I ask is you believe in this company and you believe in me the IR person. With your help we will make this company vialable and make this company work.

Thank you for your time, god bless.


---------
"I would like to apologize to the bad comment I made about the motherload. It was uncalled for and I'm sorry."
^
Sooooo what does that mean? He was lying???
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
---------
"I would like to apologize to the bad comment I made about the motherload. It was uncalled for and I'm sorry."
^
Sooooo what does that mean? He was lying???

Well let me see my crystal ball here says...Nope.No dice.It's too clouded by all of his other comments that he has made.
But you should really see what's on MY desk!I'm gone.
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
i think Melvin might have a future in POLITICS...LOL
 
Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
Dr. Diamonds MP3 from paltalk:Oct 1 http://www.bigskysoftware.net/CMKX/DrD_CMKX_Oct0104.mp3
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
Well let me see my crystal ball here says...Nope.No dice.It's too clouded by all of his other comments that he has made.
But you should really see what's on MY desk!I'm gone.

LMAO

 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Az...Cats:
Dr. Diamonds MP3 from paltalk:Oct 1 http://www.bigskysoftware.net/CMKX/DrD_CMKX_Oct0104.mp3

Who is Dr Diamond anyways? Is he just a pumper? Or does he work for CMKX in another way?

 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
More pump juice from Dr.D

He sees a PPS of .50+ in 60 – 360 days without R/S. I don't care if he is a paid pumper or not but I do feel sorry for the people who believe this. Man I'd LOVE to eat crow in 60 - 360 days.

-------------------------------------

Where do we go from here?

CMKX has came a long way from the days when Urban, Carolyn, and relatives were staking claims in the Big Sandy and other promising sites. I’m sure for Urban it has been a roller coaster ride for 17 years as we have just been riding a few years to a few days. We can within reason trace the steps forward from the early days to the present, but where do we go from being:
1. A non reporting Pink Sheet Diamond Exploration Company
2. with 1.4 plus million acres of mineral rights and options in the worlds largest diamond fields
3. carrying upwards of a 40,000 member shareholder base
4. with an 800 billion A/S and an unknown O/S.
5. extra baggage of probably a trillion or more NSS positions
6. with a PPS seemingly stalled between .0002 and .0004
7. holding millions of dollars from selling of percentages in the company’s mineral rights
8. holding 200 billion shares of SGGM worth near 50 billion dollars
9. an undeterminable market value but guessed to be near $240 million
10. Way undervalued and seemingly struggling in the market, yet gaining partnerships
11. Issuing 3 share dividends to the faithful shareholders to establish value beyond the market determinations
12. unreported core samples and lab results in several kimberlitic pipes
13. holding an aerial survey exposing hundreds of magnetic and non magnetic anomalies in a kimberlitic cluster heaven
14. a management team at the helm that companies only dream about
15. etc………….

Budgieboo’s answer would be “To DAA MOOON”

In short I believe that we will be successful in stages; short – mid – and long term.
I believe:
SHORT TERM
1. we will become fully reporting as a top priority
2. we will immediately make application to the OTCBB with our sites on the AMEX
3. we will expel fears about the share structure by reporting a low O/S and removing the ideas of a R/S
4. we will reveal our financials and show relatively no debt as most acquisitions have been satisfied mainly with share payments and establish a valuation that can be calculated
5. we will see revenue begin flowing in from investments and holdings in other companies and the PPS begin to rise as CMKX valuation begins to appreciate in the market
6. we will update the findings on the core samples and lab results that have been withheld pending our fully reporting status
7. identification will be made to our new joint venture partners and their roll with CMKX
8. clarity will be brought to many of CMKX’s investments, assets, financial accounts and private fundings
9. we will receive our 3 share dividends and see our portfolio values begin to grow
10. we will arrive on the OTCBB with a growing PPS, huge shareholder base and interested and inquisitive institutional investors coming to the table

Mid Term (60 – 360 days)
I believe we will see
1. a PPS .50+
2. a decreasing shareholder base as many investors sell out prematurely only to be replaced by eager institutional investors that are fewer but with big bucks
3. 2 to 3 open pit mines are planned to begin stages of bulk sampling in our super kimberlitic pipes as they have already been “proved up” and feasibility determination has been reached
4. Core sampled and valued target pipes are put on the market to raise more revenue and capital for the mining plans to be realized
5. Continued discovery of minerals and ores will be divided out to JV partners for extraction of gold, uranium, zinc, oil, gas, etc... while CMKX focuses primarily on diamonds
6. Uranium deposits are sold off to IUC or JVed out to JNR Resources and United Carina as government monies are provided for the undertaking as well
7. The management team is flowing as UCAD, CIM, GEMM, and others kick in to their respective flow and investors begin realizing continued valuation in their portfolios from additional share dividends and a modest cash dividend.
8. Shareholders see a boost from a 3 to 1 forward split from UCAD as they splash onto the Nasdaq with momentum from their CMKX investments and their gold processing plant coming into full operation
9. Ecuador plays favorably for CMKX and UCAD as the gold flow continues and revenue incoming is appreciated in the marketplace
10. CMKX steps up to the AMEX

Long Term (1 year +)
I will leave this in code for later.

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Hope your weekend is doing well.

Looking forward to next week.

Just my opinion and I ask that you treat it as such. Thank you.


 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
How in the heck do they figure .50 pps with 200 billion short of a TRILLION?!?!?

That's more stock than there are stars!!
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Okaaaaay here we go....

CMKM Diamonds mired in outstanding muddle

2004-10-01 21:13 ET - Street Wire

Also Street Wire (U-UCAD) US Canadian Minerals Inc

by Lee M. Webb

CMKM Diamonds Inc., a highly touted pink sheet diamond exploration play featuring a funny car dragster as a promotional vehicle, is mired in an apparent muddle over its share structure. Published ratios for two CMKM dividend-in-specie schemes peg the outstanding total at approximately 780 billion shares, but a third dividend-in-specie ratio seems to set the total at an even more staggering 1.56 trillion shares.

Many CMKM shareholders, particularly members of the cult-like following that congregates on an Internet chat site called PalTalk, dismiss any suggestion that the company has anywhere near 780 billion shares outstanding, let alone an outstanding total of more than 1.56 trillion shares.

The outstanding muddle

CMKM is headed by Prince Albert, Sask., native Urban Casavant, a former prison guard and then U-Haul entrepreneur who moved on to become a self-taught prospector and minor stock promoter. Mr. Casavant now makes his home in Las Vegas, Nev., from whence he launched his latest promotion, which once featured another 22 Casavants as shareholders.

The company stopped filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) in July of 2003, so there is little in the way of current information regarding CMKM available from official sources. Among other things, speculation regarding CMKM's share structure has been rampant since the company bowed out of reporting.

A brouhaha erupted in late June when a newly hired transfer agent, Pacific Stock Transfer, publicly pegged the number of outstanding shares at a staggering 400 billion. CMKM immediately dismissed Pacific Stock Transfer, but did not bother provide its own disclosure regarding the number of outstanding shares.

In a series of transactions in July, CMKM acquired shares in three other companies and subsequently announced three dividend-in-specie distributions of those shares. The company acquired 7.5 million shares of OTC Bulletin Board-listed U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc., 40 billion shares of privately owned Casavant International Mining and approximately 95.5 million shares of Juina Mining Corp., which changes hands on the pink sheets.

On Aug. 18, after announcing the dividend-in-specie schemes, CMKM filed an amendment with the Nevada Secretary of State increasing its authorized share total to 800 billion.

U.S. securities regulations require that information regarding dividend distributions, including the dividend ratios, be provided to the National Association of Securities Dealers. That information is now in the public domain, courtesy of the OTC. However, the muddle over the number of outstanding shares remains.

According to revised information regarding the distribution of 7.5 million shares of U.S. Canadian Minerals now payable on Oct. 6, shareholders will receive 0.00000962 of a restricted share of U.S. Canadian for each share of CMKM. A simple calculation using that ratio sets the number of outstanding CMKM shares at a staggering 779.6 billion.

A calculation based on published information regarding the dividend distribution of 95.5 million shares of Juina Mining reportedly payable on Nov. 15 yields a similar figure. Shareholders will receive 0.00012267 of a restricted share of Juina Mining for each share of CMKM held, setting CMKM's outstanding total at a comparably lofty 778.5 billion.

However, a calculation involving the dividend-in-specie distribution of shares of Casavant International Mining reportedly payable on Oct. 18 and falling in between the two other dividend-in-specie distributions yields an outstanding figure that is approximately double the amount produced by the other two calculations.

According to the published information regarding the dividend distribution of Casavant International Mining shares, shareholders will receive 0.0256 of a restricted share of Casavant International Mining for each CMKM share held. Assuming the full 40 billion shares of Casavant International Mining are distributed, that calculation pegs CMKM's outstanding total at more than 1.56 trillion shares.

While the distribution of only half of the 40 billion shares held by CMKM or even a share consolidation of Casavant International Mining on the basis of one new share for each two old shares might account for the peculiar discrepancy in the calculations, public information regarding privately owned Casavant International Mining is even sketchier than the public information available for CMKM.

Stockwatch contacted the Nevada Secretary of State for what little information is available regarding Casavant International Mining, formally headed up by CMKM's chief executive officer Mr. Casavant and now at least nominally led by Ron Casavant.

No information was provided that might explain the discrepancy in the calculations. Adding to the general muddle surrounding CMKM, however, the Nevada Secretary of State reported that as of Sept. 28 Casavant International Mining was only authorized to issue a modest 25 million shares.

Evidently some paper work will have to be completed before the Oct. 18 dividend-in-specie distribution of shares of Casavant International Mining.

In the meantime, many Internet followers of CMKM simply do not believe the company has issued approximately 780 billion shares or more.

A favourite mantra among the CMKM PalTalk faithful is, "Don't believe anything unless you see it in a PR." Melvin O'Neil, the company's investor relations spokesman, has intoned the same mantra during his frequent participation in the PalTalk chats.

Since CMKM has not disclosed either the number of outstanding shares or even the dividend-in-specie ratios in press releases, the faithful profess not to believe the officially published ratios or the staggering number of outstanding shares revealed by those ratios.

Of course, that particular mantra is only selectively invoked. It does not seem to apply, for example, to fantasies about a massive short position responsible for depressing the company's share price, an "intrinsic valuation" of a trillion dollars or higher, unsupported claims about the largest diamond find in the world or many other wild speculations embraced by the CMKM faithful.

Whether by design or chance, CMKM has managed to attract a remarkably large number of naive, excitable, imaginative and intensely loyal shareholders, many of whom have brought relatives, friends, co-workers and other acquaintances into the stock. Indeed, CMKM seems to have tapped into a promoter's dream, a growing, proselytizing vanguard of believers zealously searching out potential converts for the promotion.

The promotion

CMKM's promotion turns on the company's various interests in a number of Saskatchewan mining claims, particularly some property in the vicinity of Fort a la Corne, where there are two advanced diamond exploration projects entirely unrelated to CMKM. The company's own modest drilling efforts in the Fort a la Corne area have not produced much in the way of toutable results.

Indeed, as disclosed on June 15 by CMKM's Canadian joint venture partners, Consolidated Pine Channel Gold Corp. and United Carina Resources Corp., only one of 12 samples from a five-hole drilling program on the previously drilled Smeaton property yielded any microdiamonds, two tiny stones with a combined weight of 0.000005 carat.

While the less than impressive drilling results had some negative impact on CMKM's subpenny stock price, they did not seem to have much of an impact at all on the enthusiasm of many of the company's devoted followers. Indeed, a remarkably large number of the CMKM acolytes believe that the company has made a massive diamond discovery, but is keeping the find secret until it is ready to reveal a so-called "master plan."

The touts

Promotion is an important part of any mining play, and paid touts are a rather common feature of mining promotions. CMKM has benefited from both compensated and reportedly uncompensated touts.

Earlier this year, an outfit based in Boca Raton, Fla., distributed a CMKM tout consisting of an article lifted from the Prince Albert Daily Herald, 11 factoids widely available on the Internet regarding diamond exploration in Saskatchewan and a two-paragraph closing blatantly plagiarized from an Oct. 21, 2003, Stockwatch article. The real investment pitch was none too subtly inserted into the material plagiarized from the Stockwatch article.

The Boca Raton tout outfit, which seems to have since vanished into cyberspace, received one billion free trading shares of CMKM for its efforts. According to the disclaimer that no longer appears in cached versions of the tout, PartTime Management Inc. anted up the one billion CMKM shares.

Interestingly, a search of Nevada-registered corporations reveals a company named Part Time Management Inc., with "Part" and "Time" not elided. The registered agent for Part Time Management is David Desormeau, who has a number of connections to Mr. Casavant. Part Time Management's officers are identified as James Kinney and Ginger Gutierrez. Mr. Kinney and Ms. Gutierrez previously served as investor relations representatives for CMKM.

Mr. Casavant's pink sheet promotion has more recently piggybacked on a paid tout for an associated company that trades on the OTC Bulletin Board, U.S. Canadian Minerals.

On July 18, OTCPro.com published a tout for U.S. Canadian Minerals that led off with two paragraphs primarily devoted to CMKM and followed up with several more mentions of the company and eight bulleted factoids about diamond mining in Saskatchewan.

"OTCP has been compensated 50,000 free trading shares of UCAD (U.S. Canadian Minerals) by IB2000, a non-affiliated third party," the disclaimer at the end of the tout notes. At the time the tout was published, U.S. Canadian Minerals was changing hands for $4.50 per share and within seven trading days jumped to $7.35 per share. (All amounts are in U.S. dollars.)

Interestingly, a search of Nevada-registered corporations reveals a company named IB 2000.com., with "IB" and "2000" not elided. The resident agent and only officer of IB 2000 is identified as John E. Dhonau, reportedly a key figure behind CMKM, U.S. Canadian Minerals and associated companies.

CMKM has perhaps received even more promotional mileage from reportedly uncompensated touts who have flocked to the play.

Harold (Hal) Engel, who does his compensated and uncompensated promoting under the banner of ***********.com, supplemented by thousands of Internet posts, was an early cheerleader and remains one of the most prolific CMKM touts.

Mr. Engel, who ran afoul of U.S. regulators in connection with some compensated touting three years ago, reportedly holds approximately 940 million shares of CMKM, but has not received compensation for his yeoman's work spinning out fantastic tales about the company's prospects.

The Green Baron, headed by Ed Miller, is a relative newcomer to the stable of CMKM touts and has provided free tout services for both CMKM and U.S. Canadian Minerals. He has also touted CMKM as a guest on a radio program called Prosperity for God's People.

Mr. Miller apparently holds a position in CMKM, as does his father upon his recommendation, but the extent of those holdings has not been disclosed. The Green Baron has been beating the drum for CMKM as "the stock play of a lifetime."

Pastor Dewayne Reeves, chief executive officer of Christian Traders and radio host of Prosperity for God's People, has also been spreading the good word about CMKM. Like *********** and the Green Baron, Christian Traders holds shares of CMKM, but the good pastor disclaims receiving any compensation for touting the stock.

In addition to some of the more established touts, a number of bullish CMKM gurus have staked out positions on several Internet message boards where fantastic tales are served up to like-minded CMKM supporters.

The most bullish, imaginative and faithful group of CMKM Internet followers congregate daily on PalTalk in a virtual room called Sterling's New Classroom, named after one of the most popular CMKM Internet touts, Sterling Collins.

The PalTalk room, hosted at a cost of approximately $600 per month, offers text, audio and even video capabilities. The room has a capacity of 500 participants and on some occasions when the room's namesake appears to address the followers an overflow room has been opened to accommodate a few more hundred people.

The PalTalk following

The hundreds of CMKM fans who congregate on PalTalk under the watchful eyes of a few bullish administrators charged with maintaining some order in the room bristle at any suggestion that they are members of a cult-like following. Indeed, many claim that they welcome differences of opinion and open discussion.

In fact, it should be acknowledged that there has been a great deal of open discussion regarding different opinions among the PalTalk CMKM followers. For example, different opinions regarding the relative significance to this nascent mining giant of diamonds, gold, silver, uranium, oil, potash, zinc and so on have been entertained and roundly discussed.

Opinions regarding the "intrinsic value" of CMKM, imagined by many to be upwards of a trillion dollars, have likewise been the subject of much discussion.

Different opinions regarding the size of the imagined massive short position have also been discussed at length, with estimates ranging from hundreds of billions of shares to a trillion or more.

While these and other matters are the subject of extensive discussion and at least modest differences of opinion, there are very clear and narrow limits with respect to the extent of acceptable differences.

While wild fantasies regarding a wide spectrum of mineral resources, a multitrillion-dollar valuation and a massive short position are accepted and embraced, anyone with the temerity to argue that CMKM is far from establishing any mineral reserves, or that its properties are little more than "moose pasture" at this point, or that the company is grossly overvalued with its current market capitalization of approximately $235-million, or that there is no evidence at all of a short position would quickly receive a drubbing and almost undoubtedly be bounced or even banned from the room.

Among PalTalk's CMKM following, where "believe" is one of the most frequently used words, very little criticism of the favoured fantasies is tolerated and open skepticism is simply not on.

The influence of the cult-like PalTalk following extends beyond the virtual gathering of the CMKM faithful. Indeed, many members of the group have been active with the real-world CMKM promotion involving the sponsorship of a funny car dragster.

The promotional vehicle

Prior to dropping its SEC filing obligations, CMKM reportedly intended to acquire a time-share interest in an "ancient Chinese jade collection" purportedly appraised at $50-million.

"The Company believes that the jade collection will provide it with both a $50,000,000 asset base for reporting purposes and it will also serve as the centerpiece for a traveling jade museum show in venues throughout North America, including Las Vegas, NV (where major hotels and casinos have offered world master artwork collections, treasuries of the Russian Czars, treasurers from the Titanic, and motorcycle collections as revenue generating tourist attractions)," CMKM reported on Feb. 3, 2003.

Apparently CMKM planned to use the ancient Chinese jade collection as a promotional tool, but that plan was scrapped.

Earlier this year, CMKM unveiled a new plan and a new promotional vehicle: a funny car dragster. At first, even some of the company's faithful followers arched an eyebrow over that news, but CMKM has garnered a remarkable amount of promotional mileage from the funny car.

While gaudily painted cars thundering down a quarter-mile track in less than five deafening seconds before deploying a parachute might not be as highbrow as, say, a travelling ancient Chinese jade collection, CMKM may have targeted an appropriate market.

In any event, members of the PalTalk following who have gone to the races around the U.S. to rub shoulders with the executives and key players in CMKM and associated companies, meet fellow shareholders and file the latest "race news," not to mention heavily embellished rumours, seemingly invariably return reaffirmed in their belief in the company and quite enthused with the racy promotion.

In addition to the beer and burgers, the pep talks and the general camaraderie, shareholders attending the races share in promoting the company. Promotional literature, CMKM poker chips and T-shirts emblazoned with "Got CMKX?" are stuffed into bags and reportedly given away by the thousands.

While some shareholders have openly described their promotional efforts as "working the crowd," others simply report that giving away T-shirts and other promotional items is just a great way to meet people and chat about the company.

Just how many of the funny car crowd regaled with tales of a subpenny pink sheet stock with an "intrinsic valuation" of a trillion dollars or more, a convoluted "master plan," a massive short position soon to be remedied by a price-spiking short squeeze or other PalTalk "beliefs" have been sufficiently wowed to plop down some money on "the stock play of a lifetime" is an open question.

In any event, the PalTalk consensus seems to be that the funny car is a great promotional vehicle and that every shareholder should make an effort to attend at least one of the races.

As it happens, many shareholders are at least tentatively planning to attend a funny car race and shareholder appreciation party hosted by CMKM and U.S. Canadian Minerals in Las Vegas at the end of October. For many, however, those plans are contingent upon being able to free up some cash by selling some shares of CMKM at a profit before the end of the month.

Perhaps not surprisingly, a widely held belief among the PalTalk faithful is that enough of the so-called master plan will be revealed well before the end of October to drive CMKM's share price up so that they will be able to attend the Las Vegas party.

In any case, the outstanding muddle should be resolved, at least for most people, by next week, following the distribution of the dividend of restricted shares of U.S. Canadian Minerals payable on Oct. 6.

Meanwhile, there has been some unusual trading activity in U.S. Canadian Minerals. On Oct. 1, a record 963,234 shares changed hands and the stock gained 65 cents to close at $5.40.

CMKM, however, has been losing traction and struggling to keep from falling further into the subpenny basement. Approximately 6.1 billion shares of CMKM traded during the final session of the week and the stock ended the day at three-100ths of a penny.

The saga will continue.

Comments regarding this article may be sent to lwebb@stockwatch.com.

(More information regarding CMKM Diamonds and associated companies can be found in Stockwatch articles dated Oct. 21, 2003; June 22; and Sept. 16 and 24, 2004.)

 


Posted by will on :
 
Very interesting !

"Pastor Dewayne Reeves, chief executive officer of Christian Traders and radio host of Prosperity for God's People, has also been spreading the good word about CMKM. Like *********** and the Green Baron, Christian Traders holds shares of CMKM, but the good pastor disclaims receiving any compensation for touting the stock."


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
i found that interesting too....LOL
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
I just read the previous post by tradingpennys and had to post something. I went to the Chicago races on Saturday. Got picked up in SE Wisconsin by an infrequent poster her, joeyisthebest, and drove down there and met a frequent poster here known as Will. I've gotta say that meeting Will and spending a day with him was an experience in and of itself but that's a different story for a different day. We got to the track around noon and I was expecting a CMKX circus but was dissapointed, we saw no evidence of them at all. We got up to the track, watched a few qualifying runs, then decided to go in search of the CMKX trailer. It took a while walking around what was called "Nitro Alley" but with the help of two track employees, we came across the CMKX display. Their car wasn't running for about an hour so it was there on display for all to see. That's where we met up with the CMKX loyal. Some guy named Anthony was handing out CMKX flyers with the poker chip attached and talking up the company. There was another guy from PalTalk there named ElCamino who was touting the stock. We decided to chat with Anthony for a bit and I asked him to "throw us a bone" about CMKX. That's when he told us they had just inked a deal with Universal Studios to make a movie with Oliver Stone directing it. When we pressed him a bit about what kind of movie it was, he said "well, you know, kind of a reality movie about the life of CMKX". One other thing about Anthony, every other word out of his mouth was f***, as though that was proper language to portray intimacy with us lowly race fans. After Anthony, we moved on to ElCamino who claimed to have 85 million shares and was going to be delivering the Sunday service at the Las Vegas party. I then asked him if he was a Minister/Pastor and his reply was "Well, not one of those ummm, you know the kind, but the Lords been very good to me". I had to ask him if he was looking for the word "ordained" to which he replied, "yeah that kind of Minister". I asked both Anthony and ElCamino what they thought the o/s was and they both assured me that "it doesn't matter, don't worry about that" although ElCamino stated that he thought it would be under 500 billion. Then Ron Casavant pulled up in the CMKXtreme golfcart and we were introduced to him as shareholders. He seemed to be in a hurry but invited us to the private party after the cars next run and promised us a ride there. We agreed and left to watch the Xtreme machine race. It lost. We went back to the trailer and sure enough, there was Mr. Casavant ready to give us a lift to the party on the Xtreme golf cart. We appreciated it as the party was on the other side of the track. Myself, Will, joeyisthebest, and Ron got on the cart and headed off. Will was in the front with Ron, Joey and I were in the back facing the other way. Will said he was going to kiss him on the way to the party if he had to in order to get information from him but I don't know if he ever did as we we had our backs to them. You'll have to ask Will about that, I took an oath of silence. (Just kidding Will). Anyway, Ron dropped us off at the party and it was ok but not much. They were cooking hotdogs and hamburgers on a grill, had two kegs of beer set up, coolers with soda, etc. We ate and drank and just sat back and watched what was going on. At most there were 30 people there just eating and talking about the stock, that's when I noticed a guy with a shirt on that said " GreenBaron . com" on it. Figured I had to find out who he was so I went over to him and it turns out he is the owner of Evergreen Marketing, the parent of the green baron. I don't want anyone to think I'm judging people by their looks because I try not to do that but this guy just looked like he needed help. He was at least a 300 pounder with terribly discolored teeth. Ron Casavasnt shuttled him off as soon as he saw me speaking with him so I didn't get anything out of him. In the meantime, joeyisthebest notices box after box after box of CMKX shirts and pokerchip handouts just laying around open. He asks Ron Casavant if he can take 10 shirts for himself and his friends. Ron grabs 12 of them and tosses them to him, joeyisthebest takes them to the car leaving Will and me. One thing I forgot, Will and joeyisthebest eat like cows! At least 2 dogs and 2 burgers apiece while I eat one hotdog and partake of their beer. After about an hour at the party we notice an older guy taking pictures of the crowd, he's even standing on top of the mobile homes taking shots. We decide to chat him up and ask him his connection to CMKX. Claims to be just a shareholder yet he is at every race and every CMKX event they have had. I ask him what he thinks the o/s is and I get the same pat response, "it doesn't matter, dont worry about it". He then goes on to tell me that CMKX is going to be reporting tons of gold soon, followed by diamonds. With that we decided to leave, joeyisthebest grabbed another 5 shirts, (17 total!) while I grabbed a handfull of pokerchips and Will just shook his head. All in all it was a fun day but really did nothing to make me or the others change their opinion one way or the other.
 
Posted by netsec on :
 
"Then Ron Casavant pulled up in the CMKXtreme golfcart and we were introduced to him as shareholders. He seemed to be in a hurry but invited us to the private party after the cars next run and promised us a ride there. We agreed and left to watch the Xtreme machine race. It lost. We went back to the trailer and sure enough, there was Mr. Casavant ready to give us a lift to the party on the Xtreme golf cart."

This was the only thing worth reading in your story Upside. Comments about what people look like aren't relevant to how a stock will play.

Everyone always questions how much we can trust these Casavants, but I always believe actions speak louder than words. Ron had no real reason to offer you a ride and no real reason to come back to pick you up after he did offer. After all you (and your 2 partners) are just a single investor. In the scheme of things, not very important.

Thing important thing, the thing that speaks volumes, he said he was going to do something and he did it.

 


Posted by will on :
 
Wrong! He shuttled people all day long, back and forth. It seemed to be his job, not his choice. It wasn't in the context of any great favor.
I didn't even bother him with a question about CMKX. He seemed like a pretty decent sort. We just talked about the crowd and how NHRA didn't like their promoting at the races. He asked that we drop the NHRA an email telling them we had never attended the races, and the only reason we were there was because we were stockholders of CMKX.
There was more in Upside's post than what people looked like, that mattered, it is what and how they said there obviously rehearsed lines.
Did I hear anything that would make me buy more? NO. Did I hear anything that would make me sell? NO. Did I hear anything worth reporting? NO. Did I enjoy the hotdogs and hamburgeres? YES. Did I kiss Ron Casavant? Ask Ron!

quote:
Originally posted by netsec:
"Then Ron Casavant pulled up in the CMKXtreme golfcart and we were introduced to him as shareholders. He seemed to be in a hurry but invited us to the private party after the cars next run and promised us a ride there. We agreed and left to watch the Xtreme machine race. It lost. We went back to the trailer and sure enough, there was Mr. Casavant ready to give us a lift to the party on the Xtreme golf cart."

This was the only thing worth reading in your story Upside. Comments about what people look like aren't relevant to how a stock will play.

Everyone always questions how much we can trust these Casavants, but I always believe actions speak louder than words. Ron had no real reason to offer you a ride and no real reason to come back to pick you up after he did offer. After all you (and your 2 partners) are just a single investor. In the scheme of things, not very important.

Thing important thing, the thing that speaks volumes, he said he was going to do something and he did it.



 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
1.5 trillion o/s

hmmmmmm that is quite a discrepency.

what a mess.

Urban has to be sitting on pins and needles.


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
thanks upside...you must not work for cbs as you gave us a honest & balanced race report
======================================

anyone reading the stockwatch report without their head buried in the sand has to see that cmkx is so far down the scam road its ridiculious. a lawyer is a lawyer they only care about the person handing them a check. cmkx could turn around and head back to a respectible company. they do have a large number of claims that some will prove to have valuable assets but most will be worthless as is true with most jr mining interests. they dont have the experiance or the money to pick only choice claims. even debeers has worthless claims. anyone that thinks a company with an 800 billion o/s can hit .50 needs a 12 step program. i have 2,062,500 shares & wouldn't sell without a big profit for anything if for no other reason then entertainment value. if the dividend gets paid this week & i have doubts about that maybe reality will set in for a few that still believe this is the stock play of a lifetime

[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited October 03, 2004).]
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Will:
quote:
Did I kiss Ron Casavant?

Well, again, joeyisthebest and I were facing the other way but if I had to guess, I'd bet you snuck one in. You were sweet on him weren't you?
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
The race sounds like it was fun.Take any pictures?

Jeff Arend actually had his best run of the season this weekend with a 320+mph run to qualify him when it looked like he was out of it.Guess you guys are good luck.

Appericate the play-by-play.I thought you were up to something this weekend.LOL

Tell me you asked Ron what's going on with the Zinc?LOL

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited October 03, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
How anyone can embrace that ear shattering, chest vibrating, fly by as entertainment is beyond me. Each to his own, I guess.
However, I enjoyed meeting and spending the day with Joey and Upside, they're good company.
I met a few other people not affiliated with CMKX. A guy with a 6" mohawk hairdo and facial hair, a motor cycle freak. A few Army recruiters who I thank for serving. Those were the most memorable, the rest were dragster dregs.
We didn't see Jeff's second run, that must have been the good one. We were too busy eating, getting Joe his 100 shirt quota, and being pumped by the faithful.

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
The race sounds like it was fun.Take any pictures?

Jeff Arend actually had his best run of the season this weekend with a 320+mph run to qualify him when it looked like he was out of it.Guess you guys are good luck.

Appericate the play-by-play.I thought you were up to somthing this weekend.LOL


[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited October 03, 2004).]



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by netsec:
quote:
Comments about what people look like aren't relevant to how a stock will play.

I beg to differ with you netsec. Let's say you're going to a business meeting or anywhere else where your appearance just might matter. Are you not going to do all you can to put on your best picture or are you going to go there looking like hell? Unfortunately, appearances do matter. This guy did nothing to make himself look the least bit appealing yet he was advertising the fact that he was involved with CMKX. That's ok with you? Sorry, not with me.



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Hey highway,
Never even thought to ask about the zinc claims. Screwed up again. Joeyisthebest was going to take pictures but couldn't get his camera to work. It was a fun day. Will & Joey are two good guys and I enjoyed their company. Hope they can say the same!
 
Posted by will on :
 
Well, that was our day at the races.
I'm more interested in this now that someone brought it up:

Dewayne Reeves, chief executive officer of Christian Traders and radio host of Prosperity for God's People.

I wonder how many shares he and/or Christian Traders owns. Seemed to be a lot of Christian folks that migrated to and from this message board over the last 4 to 6 months. Just wondering how altruistic the good reverend and their motives are.
???????????????????
 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
Thanks Upside & Will for the report..

May be Ron Casavant (and other CMKX/UCAD people) are nice with the shareholders at these races because they know it will be all over these online boards, they get the good publicity and can sell more shares.
Just more negative speculation..

 


Posted by will on :
 
They're people doing their job. That's what I saw, at least the people that were actively hawking and working for CMKX. The majority of the folks at the hospitality tent were shareholders. Some of them were stuffing plastic bags with shirts, others just discussing all the nonsense that is talked on paltalk. Some made the KollAid, some drank the KoolAid, I just watched for anyone to keel over and had a couple of hotdogs, hamburgers, and Cokes.

quote:
Originally posted by TruthTeller:
Thanks Upside & Will for the report..

May be Ron Casavant (and other CMKX/UCAD people) are nice with the shareholders at these races because they know it will be all over these online boards, they get the good publicity and can sell more shares.
Just more negative speculation..


[This message has been edited by will (edited October 03, 2004).]
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
I'm still just in disbelief about Mt. St. Helens emanate eruption this week.I just saw "emanate" on Headline News.UCAD divvy in 3 days.Wouldn't it be something to get a good pr the same time the Mt. does what it does?
 
Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by netsec:
I beg to differ with you netsec. Let's say you're going to a business meeting or anywhere else where your appearance just might matter. Are you not going to do all you can to put on your best picture or are you going to go there looking like hell? Unfortunately, appearances do matter. This guy did nothing to make himself look the least bit appealing yet he was advertising the fact that he was involved with CMKX. That's ok with you? Sorry, not with me.


Hey Up..these guys were well dressed, manicured and very smart...

Andrew Fastow:

Former chief financial officer, sacked as the scandal unfolded, and alleged author of the deceptive accounting practices.

Kenneth Lay:

Enron's former chief executive and chairman since 1986 refused to testify at the last moment after saying he had been pre-judged.

David Duncan:

Enron's chief auditor at Andersen who shredded key documents relating to the case. It was his job to check Enron's accounts.


Looks can be deceiving..

 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Work, I agree with you there but come on, you should have seen the guy. He was meeting with his "customers" and he was a disheveled mess. My impression was that Ron Casavant took him away to avoid embarrassment.
 
Posted by will on :
 
I saw the guy. He was a slob, an embarrassment!
 
Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
I've got an old aunt I would hate for anyone to meet. She's not a very nice individual. I see your point to an extent, but I've learned never to judge someone by their looks. Some of the finest people I know would blend in at Ghetto Central. I think UC is not ready to get the big guns invested in this company as of yet. There may be a time later on when he will need to present a more polished face. Hopefully we will know very soon.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
So he's sending out the uglies first as part of the master plan?
 
Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
i still say that first impressions are important. I fail to see how this is acceptable on any plain, other then maybe a Tattoo company. enough said.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
So he's sending out the uglies first as part of the master plan?


 


Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
Upside..It pains me to hear you write this stuff. How can you have such disreguard for another because of appearance? Did this individual do something to you that made you loath him so much? Was it just his appearance that disturbs you? How about posting a picture of yourself...let us judge how wonderful you are by the God given dashing good looks that you possess. Let us bask in the warmth of your heart, follow the truthfullness of your words and live the honorable life you live just by showing us how handsome, suave, clean shaven and well groomed you are.

I'll take my changes with the "embarrassment" as you and Will have so aptly named him. Also, that Ron would not shun him because of his looks tells me volumes about his character, too.

I'm embarrassed that I even responded to this childish issue. We should all be.

If this stock goes up a heafty amount, you and Will be be high fiving this guy.

I've lost what little respect I had for you both.
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
LOL, they gave you the facts as they saw it and you chastise them???

 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Damn, lost the respect of one more. Oh well, life goes on.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
must be ruff, losing the respect of all these astute investors....
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by netsec:
I beg to differ with you netsec. Let's say you're going to a business meeting or anywhere else where your appearance just might matter. Are you not going to do all you can to put on your best picture or are you going to go there looking like hell? Unfortunately, appearances do matter. This guy did nothing to make himself look the least bit appealing yet he was advertising the fact that he was involved with CMKX. That's ok with you? Sorry, not with me.


Presentation is the keyword. I couldn't agree with you more Upside! He could have at least brush his teeth. Or use teeth whitening stuff... lol Nothing is more awful beside BO than someone's koodied mouth smilin' at ya. eeeeeewwwwww
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Appreciated the update and observations re the visit to the races.

Can anyone remember what that firm controlled by the Casavant children or someone in the Casavant family was? It was identified in that litigation that appeared a while back. Wasn't it Part Time Management as mentioned below?

Tradingpennys repost of Lee Webb's report:

Interestingly, a search of Nevada-registered corporations reveals a company named Part Time Management Inc., with "Part" and "Time" not elided. The registered agent for Part Time Management is David Desormeau, who has a number of connections to Mr. Casavant. Part Time Management's officers are identified as James Kinney and Ginger Gutierrez. Mr. Kinney and Ms. Gutierrez previously served as investor relations representatives for CMKM.


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
sponsoring a racecar BEFORE you ever show any REVENUE should be a sign that there is something wrong in management. whatever the guys look like...LOL
 
Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Rumor is we signed a contract for three drilling rigs and a crew of 25.


Hope it is true.



 


Posted by will on :
 
Again I'll say it made little different how these people looked. What was more obvious was their rehearsed pump lines.
Go to race a Work, have a look for yourself. Have a listen for yourself.
My impression was that no one there had any factual information to sway me to buy more. It was more of the same that I have seen here, believe, hold, master plan, time will tell. Nothing solid, nothing.

[This message has been edited by will (edited October 03, 2004).]
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
What get's me is that Urban has all these sloppy seconds hanging around. There is ABSOLUTELY no professionalism at all.

Apperance and intelligence beyond the 7th grade would help. Along with all the other BS... ugh!

I think I might start bailing out on this crap tomorrow morning. I'll be taking approx. 8k loss because of this MoFo stock manipulator... gggrrrrr

As far as I am concerned Urban and his low lifes can shove it sideways and rotate! They obviously are not doing that in the ground.
 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
typical CMKX responce. if its not what theywant to hear then it is wrong.

quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
LOL, they gave you the facts as they saw it and you chastise them???


 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Appreciated the update and observations re the visit to the races.

Can anyone remember what that firm controlled by the Casavant children or someone in the Casavant family was? It was identified in that litigation that appeared a while back. Wasn't it Part Time Management as mentioned below?

Tradingpennys repost of Lee Webb's report:

Interestingly, a search of Nevada-registered corporations reveals a company named Part Time Management Inc., with "Part" and "Time" not elided. The registered agent for Part Time Management is David Desormeau, who has a number of connections to Mr. Casavant. Part Time Management's officers are identified as James Kinney and Ginger Gutierrez. Mr. Kinney and Ms. Gutierrez previously served as investor relations representatives for CMKM.


Wallace,
I sent a copy and the links to stock patrol that same day I posted that info here. LOL
I wanted to see if they would dig up anything more we should know about.
I think the info here is on page 27 or around there.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
tradingpennys,

Got that info you posted and edited below:
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and -

URBAN CASAVANT, ALLAN MOEN, MCM MINERALS INC.,

FULL TIME MANAGEMENT INC., AND PAN PACIFIC GEM

INDUSTRY (TIANJIN) CO., LTD.


Defendants
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That company owned by the children was a different company. However, it is interesting that the name of one company above is "Full Time Management" and the one in Lee Webb's report is "Part Time Management".

Tina, I am very sad that you may be taking an $8K loss if you sell. Truly sorry.


 


Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
LOL, they gave you the facts as they saw it and you chastise them???


Hey glassman...you seem to always come to their defense. I'm not surprised. These guys don't need you to wipe up after them. That's what you call facts. That's about what you do around here. You take something you think may be fact, put in a little of your know how, and presnt it as gospel. Wrong. You, as well as the others have shown your true colors. These guys go to the races and look for something ugly to report and all they come back with is some poor guys looks they don't like and no answers. Well that's enlightning.

You guys must really be nervous. Maybe you didn't buy enough of this stock.

And Tradingpennys....if you're leaving this stock, why tell us all? Do you think we really care? Do you want us to beg you not to leave. OK..please don't sell, please. No, no wait...I'll take your shares...how much do you want? I'll bet there's quite a few people who'll take them. Hey, I know, I'll double your money and give you .0002/share. That should make you happy. Anyone else...Will, Up, Wallace? Will you take cash?

Won't sell, huh? I thought not. Wait till the run and hopefully you'll be gone.

Can't wait...
 


Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
typical CMKX responce. if its not what theywant to hear then it is wrong.


I was commenting on the ugly comments made by Upside and Will about someone at the races, not anything on CMKX. They didn't have to say that on this board. It was unacceptable. Bash the stock, but don't belittle someone that can't respond. Those guys are cowards. PERIOD...


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Work,

I am willing to take you up on that offer to purchse with the following provisions:

1. Contract effective 10/04/04.
2. You pay .0005 per share for 20 million shs.
3. You pay in cash or cashier's check tomorrow.
4. Upon delivery of said cash/check above, I will purchase 20 million shs of CMKX, will obtain physical certificates so you are protected against NSS, and deliver said shs. within 3 days of receipt.
5. CONTRACT MUST BE FIRM, LEGAL AND NON-CANCELABLE.

Put your money where your mouth is!

Incidentally, any such exchange between you and I would not show up on daily trading since it would not be taking place through the normal channels...perfectly legal too.

PS: Have you ever seen anyone on the Bowery of NYC? Do you think they look any worse than the person described? What would you think of a Bowery bum if you saw him dress as described...and, believe me, that is how they dress?

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited October 04, 2004).]
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Workaholic...
quote:
Originally posted by WorkAHolic:

Hey, I know, I'll double your money and give you .0002/share. That should make you happy.
Won't sell, huh? I thought not. Wait till the run and hopefully you'll be gone.

Can't wait...


How do you figure I would double my money at 0.0002? What an alien.

[This message has been edited by tradingpennys (edited October 04, 2004).]
 


Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Glassman wrote: quote:
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Originally posted by thinkmoney:
I actually find credibility - some intelligence - to your responses -
I just dont get why you singled cmkx as the "bash"?
Seems qbid may get the interest but IMO it was a PUMP awhile back. I dont know whether qbid or cmkx are scams but both have not produced anything to investors YET.

What is your take on cmkx loaning cyxg 2.5 M?


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mutiple answer question...LOL

a) don't treat people with VALID points rudely....somebody told me i was dumb and wrong...guaranteed to get a war started.i enjoy debating, esp. when i'm correct.

b)pennies is a big poker game, don't deal from the bottom of the deck.

c)don't ABuse religion. i agree with Wallace on this one. it's wrong to take advantage of people's FAITH in money and politics..just my opinion.....

e)this has had the STRONG smell of $$pump on it.......there are pennies that are actually worth this strong of an effort that don't get the time of day....wonder why??????

the cyxg loan i have yet to DD. i'm not really interested in DD'ing this right now, there is much more intereting stuff going on....
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Glassman: I can't believe I am taking the bait here, but I'll bite: Re: C) What is the Abusing religion part? Curious to the max. I don't Read the CMKX thread here that often anymore and there are too many pages to sift thru.

I am also Curious if either you or Wallace are invested in an offshore Hedge Fund that will be in big financial trouble if CMKX's filing proves they have big value and a lower share count than anyone posting here is willing to admit is possible? That is the best reason I can fathom why two people who appear to be sophisticated investors could be camped out for literally months bashing a stock that is selling for .0003. I came to Wallace's defense in the early months on this board when he was accused of being a basher. I doubted he would be one. It didn't make sense that he would be. After a few more months I doubted myself on thinking he wasn't a basher when that seemed to define his role on this board. Recently I thought that maybe he has an offshore hedge fund investment and could see a huge loss if CMKX succeeds. I still don't want to think that of him, but I can't fathom any other reason unless he is bored and likes conflict. That is a possibility. I know some people really enjoy that. (I don't and that is why I rarely post or read this board. It brings out the worst in me and like most people that is NOT a good thing).

I still am of the opinion that for CMKX to not have diamonds would be like diving into the middle of the ocean and coming up dry. Their kimberlite pipes are 6 miles from both DeBeers and Shore Gold's kimberlites which are yielding high quality macrodiamonds. Go ahead and call me a pumper. I am pumped up at the potential this stock has. If pumping this stock would budge the price it would be $1.00 already. CMKX will not move on a pump IMO. But it will move when they file if the filing reveals true value. With the company presently valued at $240 Million or less I thought it was a no brainer to buy shares. For 1.4 million acres of mineral rights in this diamondiferous hot spot that is a bargain. All the above is IMO and Thanks in advance.

For the record the Christian Trader's do not recommend CMKX in their portfolio of stock picks. CT has 10 million shares he bought at .0001 and sees it having entertainment value. I have to agree it is entertaining. But I think it has more going for it than that.

One thing: I know the question has been asked about where is the naked short cover? When will it happen? It hasn't happened yet. When it does, I don't think you will need to ask about it. It will be obvious to everyone. This is also my opinion. I have a short, medium and long term outlook in this stock and I will not be parting with my shares too early.

I do have a large investment in this stock but I am not worried about losing a penny of it. I have been accused of pumping this stock because I have a large investment in it and have no choice. That is a lie. I have the same choices anyone else has: Buy, hold or fold. I have plenty of stocks with a large investment in the Red. Currently I have about 15 stocks in the RED and 25 in the green. For some of the RED I have reduced my holdings or sold out. If the stock has good potential I wait. Patience is always rewarded when the stock has underlying value. I have never pumped a stock to try to create bagholders and I never will. If that was my style I would have recommended buying MED last year at $12 to try to prop the price up. At $4.66 it may be on the comeback trail but at $12 it was only heading South. All the above is in my opinion only and Good Luck to everyone in CMKX. I hope you see the kind of return you are hoping for. -Debi
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:
Glassman wrote: quote:

obviously, you attach your picks to your EGO much more seriously than i do Debi......

you have done you're research on me anyway, as have the rest of your freinds unless you are also several unregistered people ...you traded in MED as well as i recall.....aren't you the one that got whip-lash from it?
aren't you also the one who was able "to trade ONEV all wrong, and still make money"?

here's a thought for you Debi....
do a little more research into my ponderings and reccomendations here at allstocks and you will find that i recommended that it was time BAIL out of the WHOLE market at exactly the TOP.....
after that it's all smoke and mirrors until the market returns to BULL status.....
my musings about the religious promoters of this stock is not speculation.
there is a clear pattern of Godly people promoting this stock going all the way back to BEFORE you came here......
i disagree with this type of promotion, thats' all....
if you don't like my OPINION, that's fine, it'snot like i have been attacking people over it...
as a matter of fact, i gave a fairly balanced opinion about CMKX---seeing as how they have raised the AS since i pointed out that they were selling a lot of shares into the market..you can't say i was wrong, only attack me personally....

it is not very Christian to attack people who are ONLY trying to help others is it?
i said all along i have no financial interest here so there was NO other motive than to be helpful...

i WISH i was financially well of enough to be into offshore hedge funds as you suggest...
it still wouldn't fit my persoanlity tho, i'm a BULL, right down to the manure....LOL

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited October 04, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
Go to a race Work. Like I said take a look and listen for yourself. It's PT Barnum, complete with the side shows.

quote:
Originally posted by WorkAHolic:
I was commenting on the ugly comments made by Upside and Will about someone at the races, not anything on CMKX. They didn't have to say that on this board. It was unacceptable. Bash the stock, but don't belittle someone that can't respond. Those guys are cowards. PERIOD...



 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
UCAD showing great volume again today. MM's covering the Divy IMHO. Can you say SHHHHOOOORT SQUUEEEZE!!
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
SIGH
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
what i don't understand is how ppl still say the o/s is much lower then it is. this quote is from stockwatch and is the law...
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U.S. securities regulations require that information regarding dividend distributions, including the dividend ratios, be provided to the National Association of Securities Dealers. That information is now in the public domain, courtesy of the OTC. However, the muddle over the number of outstanding shares remains.

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this fact has been pointed out more then once by more then 1 person. the positive side even pointed this out as a way to prove that we would soon see that the o/s was lower then thought. that was before otcbb posted the splits. from a call last week to ameritrade i was informed that seriously huge blocks of cmkx get traded quite often, billion share size blocks, that never see the daily volume report. somebody is making good money trading this stock but who is the question. buy a billion shares at .00032 & sell at .00037 & tell me thats not a nice profit. do this day in & day out as is possible with cmkx. you would need serious advertising of the stock to do this. a race car comes to mind. this stock is starting to remind me of a new type of pyramid scheme. i bought in like everyone one else hoping for a huge gain. at the time it seemed possible and i still think there is a run up in pps coming. i bought before the 400 billion rumors started. now the o/s is just under 800 billion and this does come from cmkx. the otcbb can not & would not post this split number just to bash a stock. an 800 billion o/s kills any huge profit no matter what they finally find in canada and i'm sure one day they will get around to finding the diamonds this whole thing is based on. i don't think UC started out for this type of plan but mismanagement has turned a good speculation play into a nightmare. if ucad is not delivered in 2 days i think the s**t will hit the fan. of course this is just my veiw of the continuing cmkx saga.
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
mm's can not cover restricted shares with unrestricted shares. anything bought on the open market is differant from the restricted shares we are to recieve in 2 days. it only works if the restriction is lifted before they deliver them. plus there is no need to naked short if mm's or hedge funds can buy billions of shares and then sell them for a .00005 profit. stockwatch says over 6 billion were traded the day before that article. say a fund buys a hidden block of 5 billion on a friday at .00032 then every day the next week they sell 1 billion at .00037 they made $250,000 that week minus trading costs. if done offshore, no taxes. the numbers to support this has been there for at least 9 months. with an 800 billion o/s this could be done without naked shorting so why risk getting caught or squeezed. i hate to say it but ucad & gemm's pps sure could benifit by a believed cover move and walk away with clean hands. cim could be the cover bait. i'm not saying this is whats happening but it is possible
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Thought I would stop by for a visit. Been very busy at the Christian Traders board, but couldn't help but come and see what a board, now dominated with negatives might have become. Y'all gotta be "proud" of what you have here.

Well, it's your board, do what you want. But just to add a little balance for the people you are trying to save, I thought I would bring over some info and links that would be very beneficial to those who don't wake up under very dark clouds.

Dr. Diamond has been bashed many times on this board when I brought his opinions or DD here. But no one really knew much about him. I have done a little DD on him in order to understand where he is coming from. I now know some about him, and some of the personal info I won't post, except to say that he is a very intelligent and sincere individual. He possesses two doctorate degrees, operates three businesses, and is a member of the President's Business Council, and has been in touch with both the President and Congress concerning the problems of naked shorting, especially as it relates to CMKX. He has involved himself personally in an extensive investigation of CMKX and his DD is considered the finest on all of the boards where CMKX longs congregate.

Dr. D has his own PalTalk site for CMKX and it is a real treat to visit it, as it has not deteriorated like Sterlings has. There are links below to his most recent visits to that site this past weekend. You will never find more complete DD anywhere, and the info there, might evem convert Wallace, glass and will. He DD's the stock, not individuals personal hygiene. My challenge, is onlt to listen and read what he is saying. This guy doesn't mess around when he is DDing CMKX. He has sources close to the company and he has even flown some research flights charting our holdings up there, and found 4 drills operating on our property.

I know that my "friends" here will bash what he has to say in the name of being "saviors" to the newbie. But I highly suggest taking the time to download the MP3's of his discussions, it is worth the time, and after all, it's your money you have invested in CMKX. Isn't that worth the time to hear all of the facts on that investment.

I won't be back for awhile. It's too negative here with all of the personal bashing that goes on. The real news of CMKX will be opening up this week. IMO Any longs left here should be planning what their exit strategy will be. And don't sell your shares short, unless you have listened to the following and believe Dr D is crazy. LOL

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Where do we go from here?

CMKX has came a long way from the days when Urban, Carolyn, and relatives were staking claims in the Big Sandy and other promising sites. I’m sure for Urban it has been a roller coaster ride for 17 years as we have just been riding a few years to a few days. We can within reason trace the steps forward from the early days to the present, but where do we go from being:

1. A non reporting Pink Sheet Diamond Exploration Company
2. with 1.4 plus million acres of mineral rights and options in the worlds largest diamond fields
3. carrying upwards of a 40,000 member shareholder base
4. with an 800 billion A/S and an unknown O/S.
5. extra baggage of probably a trillion or more NSS positions
6. with a PPS seemingly stalled between .0002 and .0004
7. holding millions of dollars from selling of percentages in the company’s mineral rights
8. holding 200 billion shares of SGGM worth near 50 billion dollars
9. an undeterminable market value but guessed to be near $240 million
10. Way undervalued and seemingly struggling in the market, yet gaining partnerships
11. Issuing 3 share dividends to the faithful shareholders to establish value beyond the market determinations
12. unreported core samples and lab results in several kimberlitic pipes
13. holding an aerial survey exposing hundreds of magnetic and non magnetic anomalies in a kimberlitic cluster heaven
14. a management team at the helm that companies only dream about
15. etc………….

Budgieboo’s answer would be “To DAA MOOON”

In short I believe that we will be successful in stages; short – mid – and long term.
I believe:

SHORT TERM
1. we will become fully reporting as a top priority
2. we will immediately make application to the OTCBB with our sites on the AMEX
3. we will expel fears about the share structure by reporting a low O/S and removing the ideas of a R/S
4. we will reveal our financials and show relatively no debt as most acquisitions have been satisfied mainly with share payments and establish a valuation that can be calculated
5. we will see revenue begin flowing in from investments and holdings in other companies and the PPS begin to rise as CMKX valuation begins to appreciate in the market
6. we will update the findings on the core samples and lab results that have been withheld pending our fully reporting status
7. identification will be made to our new joint venture partners and their roll with CMKX
8. clarity will be brought to many of CMKX’s investments, assets, financial accounts and private fundings
9. we will receive our 3 share dividends and see our portfolio values begin to grow
10. we will arrive on the OTCBB with a growing PPS, huge shareholder base and interested and inquisitive institutional investors coming to the table

Mid Term (60 – 360 days)
I believe we will see:

1. a PPS .50+
2. a decreasing shareholder base as many investors sell out prematurely only to be replaced by eager institutional investors that are fewer but with big bucks
3. 2 to 3 open pit mines are planned to begin stages of bulk sampling in our super kimberlitic pipes as they have already been “proved up” and feasibility determination has been reached
4. Core sampled and valued target pipes are put on the market to raise more revenue and capital for the mining plans to be realized
5. Continued discovery of minerals and ores will be divided out to JV partners for extraction of gold, uranium, zinc, oil, gas, etc... while CMKX focuses primarily on diamonds
6. Uranium deposits are sold off to IUC or JVed out to JNR Resources and United Carina as government monies are provided for the undertaking as well
7. The management team is flowing as UCAD, CIM, GEMM, and others kick in to their respective flow and investors begin realizing continued valuation in their portfolios from additional share dividends and a modest cash dividend.
8. Shareholders see a boost from a 3 to 1 forward split from UCAD as they splash onto the Nasdaq with momentum from their CMKX investments and their gold processing plant coming into full operation
9. Ecuador plays favorably for CMKX and UCAD as the gold flow continues and revenue incoming is appreciated in the marketplace
10. CMKX steps up to the AMEX

Long Term (1 year +)
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Hope your weekend is doing well.

Looking forward to next week.

Just my opinion and I ask that you treat it as such. Thank you.

Dr.D
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This new CMKX/Dr. D MP3 is over 2.5 hours long (19.5MB), so be patient with the download -- it is well worth the time (as this MP3, IMO, contains some of the best DD on CMKX to the present day and it is right up to date as of Oct. 2/04). Some of the most interesting DD comes near the end also, so it is a good idea to try to listen to the whole thing.
Also, Dr D wanted this disclaimer attached wherever the MP3 is listed:

"This is Dr.Diamonds opinion and is not to be taken as professional trading advice. Dr. Diamond is not a paid professional financial adviser and security decisions should not be made off of this information. Dr.Diamond recommends that no one invest money at any time in any security that they are not fully prepared to accept as a 100% loss especially in the Pink Sheets market."

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Posted by glassman on :
 
noahltl
Member posted October 04, 2004 11:51
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Thought I would stop by for a visit. Been very busy at the Christian Traders board, but couldn't help but come and see what a board, now dominated with negatives might have become. Y'all gotta be "proud" of what you have here.

gee Noah, i guess you should be so proud of trying to convince so many people to buy into the NSS of the century.....
i don't think anybody here is proud to have their name associated with CMKX in any way...ARE YOU??????????
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
WWJD wrote (with re to Wallace):

I can't fathom any other reason unless he is bored and likes conflict. That is a possibility. I know some people really enjoy that.
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I suppose that is what jesus would do or say?
Sunday's past now so the rest of the week is "open season" against people with whom you disagree, huh? I have seen and experienced your so-called christianity. It has no place in the stock market and it leaves a hell of a lot to be desired. All BS. Suggest you really find out what it is all about!!!!

CT is nothing more than a pumper site. Anyone with a modicum of objectivity can easily see that is the case. No discussion except lay it on thick and heavy. Doesn't matter if it's all speculation, rumor and hype. That is just a perfect place for someone who wants objective information about any stock? IMO, that is a site to stay far, far, far away from.

Sure, you don't read this CMKX thread. That's why you know exactly what everyone (with whom you disagree) has contributed.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
I have been telling you that the issued and outstanding shares is probably well above 500 billion shares for some time now. Where do you think those shs. would have come from if that is true? Isn't that obvious? I am guessing that Bill1352 is pretty damn close with his estimate of 700+ billion I/OS.

Where do you think UC got the money to loan $2 million to Crystalix? Makes a lot more sense than any money going to CMKX from either UCAD or SGGM!
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Now all the pumpers are coming out of the woodwork.... LOL
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i guess i've fallen into the negitive side in here myself but only because of the o/s and lessons learned in stock trading 101. i do believe a run of some sort is coming and maybe it will be big but how someone with degree's, businesses or whatever can say .50 is possible is beyond me. i'm very willing to be proven wrong as i own over 2 million shares. heck i'd be there passing out poker chips if it hit a dime, might even kiss dr. d's ring for a pps of .25. (it would stop there no matter what the pps before the comments start..lol) those other boards remind me of the ppl you see hanging around casino's believing the big pay day is 1 bet away. i do believe the goods are there but they'd have to find more then the mother load with an 800 billion o/s. i'm guessing soon there will be a cmkx 12 step chat room
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Actually this stock is at 0.00025 not the 0.0003 everyone sees. They round off the numbers.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
and thats where the money is made in huge block trades the .00005 differance during the day.
 
Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
"Now all the pumpers are coming out of the woodwork.... LOL"

Don't worry the bashers have been here for months...
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
and thats where the money is made in huge block trades the .00005 differance during the day.

I agree.
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
8,000 dollar loss WOW
thats terrible I am glad I got in at .0001 if I get out next week as planned I may only have a 300% gain but man I am sorry to hear that. that stinks.


tradingpennys
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What get's me is that Urban has all these sloppy seconds hanging around. There is ABSOLUTELY no professionalism at all.
Apperance and intelligence beyond the 7th grade would help. Along with all the other BS... ugh!

I think I might start bailing out on this crap tomorrow morning. I'll be taking approx. 8k loss because of this MoFo stock manipulator... gggrrrrr

As far as I am concerned Urban and his low lifes can shove it sideways and rotate! They obviously are not doing that in the ground.


 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
question.
Should I see the UCAD divy in my account in two days or is that when the brokers recieve them if that is the case how long does it take for the all the processing for the shares to finally end up in my account.
on a possitive note UCAD is at 6.30 nice gain.
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Yeah it sucks... I have a sell in and it ain't moving. Right now I show a loss of $5,634. Everytime it dips I lose approx. $2,700. THAT REALLY SUCKS! So I don't know how that person workaholic figures I would double my money if I sell at 0.0002. LOL It is NOT possible!
quote:
Originally posted by sdrobert:
8,000 dollar loss WOW
thats terrible I am glad I got in at .0001 if I get out next week as planned I may only have a 300% gain but man I am sorry to hear that. that stinks.


tradingpennys
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Posted by sdrobert on :
 
another question if cmkx is soo cheap if it made it to .01 that would be such a gain why wouldnt everyone want to sell making the price drop back down to where it is at now??
 
Posted by osubucks30 on :
 
Must be dumping more shares. All those 9000000 blocks!

[This message has been edited by osubucks30 (edited October 04, 2004).]
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i was thinking of selling also but the more i thought about it the more a small run in the near future made sence. it might not happen but i think i'll wait out at least the dividend payments
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
http://cobrand.knobias.com/templates/aware/story1.3.htm?

market news

CMKX (OTC) CMKM DIAMONDS, INC

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CMKX: Stock Dividend Payable Today

FRIDAY , OCTOBER 01, 2004 06:58 AM
According to the NASDAQ Dividend List, today is the expected Payment Date for the Stock dividend previously declared for CMKM Diamonds, Inc (OTC: CMKX).



 


Posted by glassman on :
 
this might sound ODD coming from me...
but if you are in already, it MIGHT make sense to hold....

iknow, iknow, but hear me out.....

they have been increasing the AS----logic says they do that to SELL more stock to the public. BUT sooner or later, they wil run out....UNLESS they increase the AS again.....
IF they do run out and the demand reamins constat, then you may be able to get a better PPS...
just a thought....
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 


market news

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CMKX (OTC) CMKM DIAMONDS, INC

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CMKX: Sets Dividend; stock; X-Nov 15

TUESDAY , SEPTEMBER 28, 2004 01:43 PM

According to the NASDAQ Dividend List, CMKM Diamonds, Inc (OTC: CMKX) has declared a stock dividend. This dividend will ONLY be available to shareholders of record as of October 01, 2004.

DECL-DATE X-DATE REC-DATE PAY-DATE
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09/28/2004 11/15/2004 10/01/2004 11/15/2004
AMOUNT: stock
FREQUENCY: N/A
CHANGE: N/A
ADDITIONAL INFO: +Approximately .00012267 of a restricted share of Juina Mining Corp (OTC: GEMM) for each share held. Will not be quoted Ex.
http://cobrand.knobias.com/templates/aware/story1.3.htm?
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
OH MY GOD GLASSMAN SAID TO HOLD!!!!!!!!!!
AGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW!!
WHAT IN THE HELL IS GOING ON!!!!!!!!!
What if they just decide to authorize more when they run out??
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
great Im starting to sound like a basher
but with 27 million shares the gemm divy is worth only about 111 dollars. I dont think that is worth mentioning.

 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
again the gemm dividend matchs the numbers from ucad 778.5 billion o/s. the option for more gemm shares expired saturday i guess they wont be adding the 127,336,036 the option was for. we all know of course the o/s is nowhere near 778 billion, the otcbb is a paid basher, common knowledge (i'm being sarcastic of course) works out to about 122 per million shares
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sdrobert:
OH MY GOD GLASSMAN SAID TO HOLD!!!!!!!!!!
AGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW!!
WHAT IN THE HELL IS GOING ON!!!!!!!!!
What if they just decide to authorize more when they run out??

i said CONSIDER it..LOL

i toleya i'm not a basher, just trying to improve the quality of DD.......
i have no control over what they(or anybody) do....

 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
I have a strange question is pump and dump when you make people believe a stock is great get them to buy the stock and when the price rises you sell a bunch and drop the prices back down?? if thats the case they are not doing a very good job the price has been standing still forever.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
there are dozens of way to run pumpandumps...

insiders almost always have to participate, they at least have to look the other way, depending on the circumsatnces...

prior to the bursting of the bubble after Y2K, you could turn on the TV to Bloomberg or MSNBC, see an analyst come on TV promote a stock they own, and watch it go up....
is that pumping dumping if they sold it as it ranup from their recomendation?

the internet has just made it all more confusing for now...


[This message has been edited by glassman (edited October 04, 2004).]
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
One last question or favor. I am trying to get information on Roger Glenn, both good and bad, does anyone have any cases he might have been involved. I know he was involved in publishing a book so I dont need to know that. Maybe a list of company he specificaly represented not the companies his lawfirm represented but whom he specificaly represented. I tried to find on search engines with no luck and the lawfirms website doesnot seem to be specific per each person
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
my recomandation to shareholders here would be to organise and DEMAND more drilling...

let them know how you feel about the dilution esp the part where they are selling off %ages of the claims so cheaply...
 


Posted by will on :
 
I never thought of selling at this level, but I know I won't be buying either.
The believers just might be right and this thing might pop so I can make a little $. If it runs back to .0009 / .001, rest assured I'll be on free parking.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i agree will. i'll sell enough to make a small profit and then hold the rest till 1 million shares becomes 100 shares (after r/s)
 
Posted by tic_toc on :
 

try these...
http://www.fklaw.com/news-45.html
http://www.fklaw.com/news-43.html


quote:
Originally posted by sdrobert:
One last question or favor. I am trying to get information on Roger Glenn, both good and bad, does anyone have any cases he might have been involved. I know he was involved in publishing a book so I dont need to know that. Maybe a list of company he specificaly represented not the companies his lawfirm represented but whom he specificaly represented. I tried to find on search engines with no luck and the lawfirms website doesnot seem to be specific per each person


 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
Debi,
I guess you wouldn't sell if we don't get UCAD divy this week. But would you become skeptical about the company? Your least estimated pps value is 0.017 (I think), do you still think the same? Thanks

quote:
Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:
Glassman wrote: quote:


 


Posted by whitefeather on :
 
Hello CMKX Shareholders!

Just to let you know I just booked my reservations at Texas Station in Las Vegas.
They have one room left at full price.
I am paying $159.99 for Friday and $189.99 for Saturday. They do have thier sister hotel, which is directly across the street from Texas Station called Fiesta Rancho.
Cmkx/Ucad had reserved 150 rooms at a discount rate which all are sold out.
Texas station has a total of 202 rooms.
Fiesta has 70 rooms reserved for CMKX/UCAD for 129.99 for Sat. & Sun. which discount rates ends today, today is the last day for discount rate. I don't post often but I truly believe in this company... I am long and holding 44,833,333 shares Hope to see some of you at this once in a lifetime event.
 


Posted by WorkAHolic on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Work,

I am willing to take you up on that offer to purchse with the following provisions:

1. Contract effective 10/04/04.
2. You pay .0005 per share for 20 million shs.
3. You pay in cash or cashier's check tomorrow.
4. Upon delivery of said cash/check above, I will purchase 20 million shs of CMKX, will obtain physical certificates so you are protected against NSS, and deliver said shs. within 3 days of receipt.
5. CONTRACT MUST BE FIRM, LEGAL AND NON-CANCELABLE.

Put your money where your mouth is!

Incidentally, any such exchange between you and I would not show up on daily trading since it would not be taking place through the normal channels...perfectly legal too.

PS: Have you ever seen anyone on the Bowery of NYC? Do you think they look any worse than the person described? What would you think of a Bowery bum if you saw him dress as described...and, believe me, that is how they dress?

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited October 04, 2004).]



Hey Wally, you've just declared CMKX undervalued!!

The only "Bowery Bums" here are you and your coharts. The only difference is that you guys are much bigger bums in that you hide behind a keyboard. You possess nothing of worth that I want.

I'll have nothing to do with your deals mainly because I don't trust you.

Funny, huh? I'd trust that "Bowery Bum" (at the races) as you called him before I'd trust you. I know the kind of person you are from your words, not your appearance.

Buy and Sell your shares the normal way...through legitimate brokers.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 

After reading the race report, I had to stop by one more time to let everyone see a different report from the race. I guess maybe people just see what they want to see. Investors have to decide which report might be more accurate.
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Freedom's report from the races
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 1:09 am

by Freedom2sail
Gemologist

Joined: 18 Jun 2004
Posts: 662
Location: Chicago Area

Okay here is the information I heard while at the races in Joliet on Saturday October 2nd. Feel free to confirm or disconfirm any of what is written here. That is, after all, the value of posting information in a public forum.

First let me report that there were no members of management at these races other than Ron Casavant. The single most valuable aspect of the information that I obtained was based on the fact that it was acquired from individuals who had attended multiple races and had many conversations with management. Most of what I heard was essentially a re-affirmation that much of what is reported on the boards can be substantiated by individuals who were present when it was said by someone in management. Everyone’s spirits were very high and most seemed very confident.

Ron Casavant

I met Ron briefly but did not carry on a conversation with him. He struck me as having a genuinely humble disposition. Other shareholders were saying that he was being especially tight lipped. His demeanor and body language seems to convey that he was not looking to get into any conversations. He could have simply been busy with the race. It was speculated however that management didn’t come because we are very close to bringing this thing home and they didn’t want to risk any mis-steps.

Topogigo

Spoke with Topogigo (Anthony) within a group setting. Anthony is a CMKX employee who is the driver for their Humvee. During a conversation between him, I, another shareholder and Ed Miller, Anthony talked towards Ed about reports in a hushed tone that UC was supposedly seen at the Indy and Dallas races. He was betting that UC would show up in Chicago due to the fact that Jeff had just raced his fastest time ever. This led me to believe that UC was coming to the races covertly because he simply wanted to be there for the races and had a hard time staying away. I took the opportunity to ask why he hadn’t been attending. Ed said that he was advised by ‘others’ not to attend, not because of what he might say but what others might report that he said. Anthony nodded in agreement.

John from Bloomington, IL.

Spoke to a shareholder named John from Bloomington, Il. who attended the TN., Indy and Chicago races. He had spoken directly to Rendall Williams at the TN. race. What he reported of the conversation confirmed that he heard everything that we had seen posted about statements Rendall had made at prior races which I won’t repeat to avoid redundancy and save time. He saw the piece of Gold Rendall was passing around and heard him say that we plan on pulling one kilogram of gold a month out of the Yellow River Mine. John said he heard from Jose that Kazmurski was at the Sask. meeting. Jose later neither confirmed nor denied this and may have side stepped the question.

El Camino (Jose)

Jose struck me as a very calm, sincere and confident individual. I’ve never taken the time to read his posts so this was really my first impression of the guy. We talked one on one and in group settings for a good hour. I would venture to say this is a man of character. His father was an electrical engineer who immigrated to the states when he was a boy. He said his father was unable to get a job due to ‘racism’ and they ended up in the Bronx on welfare where Jose grew up. He is probably in his late 40’s. He said he got himself out of the Bronx and gave me the impression of being relatively successful in his investments (e.g. he said he receives $500 monthly from a GM investment). He mentioned this when people were asking him about exactly how long they should hold. His point being, “why would I ever sell GM?” He has a degree in music and theology and will be giving the benediction at the shareholders meeting in Vegas. He is not an ordained minister. Said he never felt called to be but it was evident that he feels strongly about his faith.

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Re: FREEDOM'S REPORT FROM THE RACES
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He was at the Saskatchewan meeting. He had a laptop set up with all the pics being shown in a slideshow. I set next to him as he narrated different parts of the trip. He was obviously practiced at not saying too much and not answering certain questions.

He said the first part of the trip was entirely fishing. And yes, Roger Glenn was up there for the fishing part of the trip. I saw pictures of him in a red sweatshirt hanging out with the guys at the cabin(LOL). I also saw pictures of Ed Dhonau and Rendall Williams at the fishing part of the trip.

Jose said the second part of the trip was strictly business meetings in which the shareholders were not a part. He side stepped a question about who all was there but mentioned that there were 18 in all including 4 shareholders. Jose said it was originally his idea and he called Sterling, who he has some history with, and asked if he wanted to go. It was also rumored around the race that Kazmurski from Cameco who also sits on UCA’s board was at the Sask. meeting. Jose would neither confirm nor deny this and side stepped the question about him and the others. He acknowledged only those in the photos. I regret not pushing a bit more on this point because I feel in retrospect I might have gotten a bit more conversation out of this point.

He also had a picture of a cracked drill bit. Circumstantial evidence to support the rumor of the cracked drill bit. So know we know there was a cracked drill bit but what that means is still pretty open. I know people love to believe that we hit this huge pocket of diamonds or a really big one but that seems unlikely and illogical to me. Possibly a flaw in the metal or it was poorly cast or it could’ve been operator error and they were just pushing it to fast and hard.

He gave the distinct impression that he had insights that he could not share. I hope that if that is true UC has had the forethought to give these guys employee/insider status. I believe it probable that these guys know more then we do judging from their behavior and the fact that they have attend multiple functions in which they’ve interacted with management.

I asked about whether Dhonau was the majority shareholder for UCAD and if he had started UCAD. He factually stated that he was and that he had. He said that he initially approached Rendall Williams when he was running Barrington Foods and took over the company. Dhonau apparently liked what he saw in Williams and kept him on. Jose said Barrington foods was a company that was in part intended to feed the hungry.

During our conversation Ed Miller was present for most of the time. He was mostly quiet in the group setting. I corralled him individually later but I’ll get to that. When I asked Jose if he thought the O/S was 800 billion they both were quick to respond with a “No, no way.” They wouldn’t elaborate but stated it as if they had information that allowed them to know it for certain. The only other statement Jose made was the “UC has a responsibility to continue to retire shares.” The latter statement was stated in a very deliberate and scripted way. Take it for what it is worth.

Ed Miller

Now here is a man who knows CMKX and seems very confident in the stock. Most of what he shared with me were based on conversations Ed Dhonau had with him and other shareholders at the Dallas race.

He confirmed that Dhonau started and owns the majority of UCAD. He said that Dhonau is the deep pockets money behind this whole deal with CMKX. Apparently Dhonau comes from the Valvoline family as in Valvoline Oil. Ed said at age 22 he walked in and fired the CEO and took over. He also said Dhonau was in college at age 14. While Jose said that CMKX is central to everything that is happening Ed said that Dhonau’s the money and is calling the shots. . He said that UC and Dhonau have a close friendship and that he was the single largest shareholder of CMKX…with his own private money, not including Nevada Minerals. He said he thought his position must be huge and was surprised that Green Baron wasn’t the single largest shareholder!

He said that UCAD management was in Ecuador during the race weekend looking at picking up a ‘few’ goldmines. He said all the mines were actively producing. He said the Dhonau began picking up goldmines because he wanted CMKX to have a revenue stream now, not when the Canada properties started producing. He said they had picked up one mine for a song, $60,000 dollars. Damn, I could’ve gotten financed for that. One thing Ed brings to the table is connections. Apparently this guys is networked worldwide including with the Ecuadorian government. He also said miners in Ecuador usually make $70 a month and that Dhonau opted to pay them $140 a month. He said that when these guys go back to their villages they live like kings. Miners in that country are already considered to be highly paid and with Dhonau they make double.

Regarding UCAD itself he said the Rachael property is really about the processing plant. He said that they have mining companies lining up already. UCAD keeps 11% of whatever they process and that’s incentive to the whole deal.

He said that there will be no merger between UCAD and CMKX and that they won’t touch us with the present share structure. He wouldn’t elaborate on precisely what that meant. He did say that CMKX would have to be fully reporting for a year first.
He also said the Rendall told him the next move for UCAD is to the NASDAQ and that this process is in the works. He thought that UCAD has the a potential to be a $30 stock. He stated CMKX’s next stop was the OTCBB.

Regarding the O/S he said that companies can base the divi’s on whatever they want, the O/S, the A/S, the float. They can give it to you and not me, whatever. He also thought that it was possible that they had already filed and were presently waiting for SEC approval so keep an eye on Edgar. He said that the history part of the financial had been completed ( the most extensive piece) and they were now working on present day financials. He also said that U.S. law prevents mining companies from including in there valuation minerals that are still in the ground. They can include things like trees and potash. Canadian owned companies can include minerals in there valuations. He said that he felt there was definitely a NSS situation as did Jose. They both anticipate a short squeeze and talked about selling 10% through the squeeze and going long on the rest as one possible scenario. He said that according to Dhonau a r/s was not an issue and to make the point he said they wouldn’t even consider doing one below .10 cents.

He said that the 10 million was from an investor from outside the companies involved based in Nevada. He said that UC worked out a deal with the head of SGGM to get Vicki Curran the job. Finally he said he believed that DeBeers was very very interested in buying us and ultimately they would. He said UC wouldn’t even talk to them and that he really doesn’t like them but the not talking to them was a strategy to increase the potential money for any future deal.

There was a phrase going around the races that I heard from Jose, Ed Miller, New York Joe (great guy and seemed to be in the know and was also a New York fireman). Whenever the topic of the Las Vegas party would come up they would look at you with a knowing smiles and say, “Just go.” And if you anyone offered any kinds of yea but’s or questions they smile a little bigger and say “Just GO.” New York Joe also assured me that he’d see me there. (LOL) It’s open to interpretation because that is the way if was left. They also said that they had a big announcement to make at the party and that Roger Glenn would be speaking as well.

Finally, when I was talking to Ed Miller, who again was basing most of what he told me off conversations he had with Ed Dhonau, he said that the GEMM dividend had not been exercised. He did however say that it had been extended. Reportedly, UC wants to wait and see what happens with Juina. It is possible he may not want to end up owning more of it. Apparently they are still having difficulties with the Ecuadorian government. Sounds like a wise and prudent move IMO. It also suggests that we can’t rule out that GEMM dividend just yet and would also explain why they bumped it back a full 6 weeks.

That’s it guys. Best of luck to all of us!

Oh yea and “Just go.”

Freedom

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Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
Noah....nice to have you back.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
glad to see ya noah....if the dividend split was based on the a/s the numbers would work out to exactly 800 billion as we do know for fact that is the a/s. the ucad split number would be .000009375. since this is not the split number reported to the sec by cmkx then the dividend split can not be based on the a/s. since the float is lower then the o/s as its o/s minus restricted shares chances are its not being based on the float but the entire o/s
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
NOAH - Glad to see you and hope all is well - thanks for the different spin on the race - it just goes to prove yet again, people will interpret what one believes.

Take care
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
Noah, you didn't answer MY question. are you proud of your involvement with CMKX so far?
 
Posted by Bob Frey on :
 
glass why would anyone care?
 
Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Noah, you didn't answer MY question. are you proud of your involvement with CMKX so far?

Pride??? Glass, what has pride got to do with anything?
 


Posted by glassman on :
 

noahltl
Member posted October 04, 2004 11:51
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Thought I would stop by for a visit. Been very busy at the Christian Traders board, but couldn't help but come and see what a board, now dominated with negatives might have become. Y'all gotta be "proud" of what you have here.


i was just continuing his conversation.....

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited October 05, 2004).]
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by noahltl:
quote:
After reading the race report, I had to stop by one more time to let everyone see a different report from the race. I guess maybe people just see what they want to see.

In that statement, you are 100% correct.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
I keep trying to leave, but always get drug back in.

Glass, Am I proud of being in CMKX? I don't have any real emotions one way or the other about my investment in CMKX, unless you count confidence. My comment about being proud, was what those of you who coninuously express negativism about CMKX, have done to this thread and this board.

Personally I think you all take pride in believing that you have truly "hijacked" this thread as others are saying. You have taken it over, simply because many people just don't like the smell of negativism and personal bashing, and gone on to where the air is fresher.

Upside, I purposely made my statement about people seeing what they want to see, in order to encourage the readers to make up their own minds about the differing race reports, and which one they believe. You saw what you wanted to, and Freedom saw what he wanted to. It just points up the difference between being negative and being positive. And I am sure that most of the readers can see the difference between the two reports.

Wallace, I couldn't help but notice your comments about the Christians and your slight of the Lord and Savior of the world, by purposely writing His name with a small "j". You don't normally make capitalization mistakes in your writing, so I have to believe that it was an intentional attempt to demean Him and those of us who believe in Him. I don't know what that had to do with CMKX, so it only points up more of the "smell" I was talking about that has permeated your posts and some of the others.

JEAL, thanks for welcoming me back, but I really just stopped in to see what was going on here, and my comments to that are listed above. There really are other boards where CMKX is discussed, both positive and negative, but "bashing" is not permitted. At those boards, the whiteness of someone's teeth is not a criteria, and the Lord is not demeaned. And now that I mention it, it's time to go back there, and see what CMKX is doing today.

Peace and prosperity. Know the source.

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited October 05, 2004).]
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
noahltl wrote:

Personally I think you all take pride in believing that you have truly "hijacked" this thread as others are saying.


Wallace, I couldn't help but notice your comments about the Christians and your slight of the Lord and Savior of the world, by purposely writing His name with a small "j". You don't normally make capitalization mistakes in your writing, so I have to believe that it was an intentional attempt to demean Him and those of us who believe in Him. I don't know what that had to do with CMKX, so it only points up more of the "smell" I was talking about that has permeated your posts and some of the others.
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The only person (other than yourself in the above particular post) that I have ever seen state this thread has been hijacked is WWJD.
That is because others were willing to counter her cult-like fanatical pumping of CMKX.

You are damn right I purposely used a small "j" in my post. I had said nothing about WWJD, had been saying next to nothing about CMKX. Then, as soon as some so-called christian posts, she attacks me viciously again?

As far as your and other's religious beliefs are concerned, I obviously do not believe as WWJD does, may or may not believe as you do and prefer that it not be used on a stock market forum. I have my own beliefs about religion, but I do not pump that here as do you, WWJD and others. It has no place here!!!

As far as "smell" is concerned, that too is a matter of opinion. I have never been to that christian trader site, but I can "smell" it every time one of you posts on this thread. Therefore, I know what kind of crap to expect there.

Now about "bashing". No one could bash CMKX any more than have the people running CMKX. That is another FACT none of your avid pumpers fail to recognize or admit. That is where the responsibility for the previous reduction, the current pps and the future pps of CMKX rests. No where else. If anything, it is the pumpers who are probably maintaining the pps by buying more and more shares to line the pockets of UC and others as they sell more and more of the authorized shares. Where in hell do you think those shares are coming from?

Better things to do for now...so, BYE.


 


Posted by osubucks30 on :
 
If they keep diluting like they have we could see our first 1 for 1 million shares R/S!
LOL
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i think that was BOTH barrels....

any response Noah?
 


Posted by mdec on :
 
noahltl

Whenever i see "the Lord this or jesus this" in a post its ususally from a Pumper.
mdec
 


Posted by mdec on :
 
Maybe someone could set up an escrow account to hold the wagers that participants could make on the chances of CMKX reaching a share price of .002 within 2 months.
 
Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
UCAD traded as high as 10.50...any thoughts on the subject?
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
Justhis1ce
Member posted October 05, 2004 13:44
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UCAD traded as high as 10.50...any thoughts on the subject?
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i've been watching that too. unless the restriction has been removed these shares can not be used to cover any naked short. the dividend shares to go to our broker accounts from the DTC, ucad's t/a sends them there. now if the DTC sends brokers restricted & unrestricted shares dont you think the brokers would know? lets say thursday our brokers depoisit both types of shares in the differant accounts. some ppl would have rerstricted shares & others unrestricted. the DTC nor the broker can restrict shares, only UCAD can. the news from ucad certainly couldn't cause this kind of run, something must be up.

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.S. Canadian Minerals to Release Schedule for Funding
October 05, 2004 08:42:00 AM ET


U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. UCAD announced today that it will be releasing the timetable for completion of the previously announced funding transaction with a London based private investment company within the next few days. Upon public release of information by the private investment company, UCAD will provide further details.

John S. Woodward, President of UCAD stated: "We are eagerly awaiting completion of this transaction as it will allow us to continue on our path of rapid growth and acquisition."

Further details will be forthcoming in future press releases and at http://www.uscanadian.net/.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

Statements contained in this document which are not historical fact are forward-looking statements based upon management's current expectations that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in or implied by forward-looking statements.

Contact Information: U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. Chris Henneman, 303-220-8476

© 2004 BusinessWire


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mdec:
noahltl

Whenever i see "the Lord this or jesus this" in a post its ususally from a Pumper.
mdec


mdec, I didn't bring the subject up, Wallace did. Does that make him a pumper?


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
i think that was BOTH barrels....

any response Noah?


Yes glass, my answer, UCAD running.

 


Posted by netsec on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
mdec, I didn't bring the subject up, Wallace did. Does that make him a pumper?


Nice!
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mdec:
Maybe someone could set up an escrow account to hold the wagers that participants could make on the chances of CMKX reaching a share price of .002 within 2 months.

Maybe someone could set up an escrow account to hold the wagers that bashers could make on the chances of any of them ever again getting a paid bashing position since they failed so miserably to shake longs on this stock.

 


Posted by Leardron on :
 
Did anyone get their UCAD shares yet? When are we expected to get them?
 
Posted by osubucks30 on :
 
They keep DUMPING AND DUMPING AND ....
 
Posted by netsec on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by osubucks30:
They keep DUMPING AND DUMPING AND ....

...again OSU, "IMO" please.
 


Posted by cool1sh on :
 
IMO You are right..
Several people are able to buy for 0002

quote:
Originally posted by osubucks30:
They keep DUMPING AND DUMPING AND ....


 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
if ucad keeps going maybe we can all stop worrying about cmkx we got our money and then some with ucad divy
 
Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
MY UCAD DIVVY JUST HIT MY ACCOUNT
Bought 1000@5.15 Early August; Sold today @ 10.15. I guess you can apply any name you want to it.
VAN
 
Posted by DeadSurf on :
 
no they did not


quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
MY UCAD DIVVY JUST HIT MY ACCOUNT
Bought 1000@5.15 Early August; Sold today @ 10.15. I guess you can apply any name you want to it.
VAN


 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
GEMM up 81%
UCAD up 54%
CMKX down 33%
KPG down 13%
UCA down 10%

Go figure....lets hope CMKX makes a turn upward. I really hate closes of 0.0002.
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Van:
quote:
Bought 1000@5.15 Early August; Sold today @ 10.15. I guess you can apply any name you want to it.
VAN

Van,
All I can say to that is good job. I remember you saying months ago that UCAD and the other partners might be the value play and you were right. I for one am encouraged to see this happening. I just hope it bodes well for the CMKX holders too.
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
UPSIDE
Just flipped ECPN 5000@.14 for .66.
Been a good day and we are not done yet.
My bet was IF MM were shorting they would try to cover with JV's. I think this is what happened today SHAKE CMKX and COVER with JV's
VAN
PS
It is getting very tiresome to kick the manure off my shoes & come into the house to handle these trades. What does one do ??

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited October 05, 2004).]
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well ucad minus the dividends shares was about 7.5 million so over 10% of the float was traded today. but still if it was for covering naked cmkx shares it would only cover about 50 billion when the split says the o/s is 783 billion thats not anything like the huge naked short ppl were talking about. and i bet what happened today with ucad was why gemm ran. cmkx shareholders thinking a cover was coming buying it up. not that making money on these other shares is a bad thing but it 1) doesn't prove a naked short & 2)sort of causes cmkx to absorb any naked shares thus further diluting cmkx and UC has diluted it more then enough all by himself.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Van:
quote:
It is getting very tiresome to kick the manure off my shoes & come into the house to handle these trades. What does one do ??

Keep doing what you're doing and you'll be able to hire someone to work the manure for you while you trade all day.
 


Posted by VNGNTN1 on :
 
UPSIDE
You don't understand. Unless you are willing and able to do the manure(nature) thing: nothing else matters. The money is ok, but making many different plants grow cannot be exceeded.
VAN
 
Posted by Doo-Man on :
 
Does anyone have a link for Melvins room at Paltalk ???????????
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
Does anyone know the scedule of events for the cmkx/ucad party in vegas????
I can only go one day but I dont know which is best. SOMEONE HELP ME PLEASE.
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Dividends coming soon.( http://www.investopedia.com/articles/02/110802.asp )

Everybody else goes up and CMKX goes down.
Not too sure what's going on here,just seems odd to me.

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=ucad
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=GEMM
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=cmkx


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Noahltl, with reference to your post at 14:06 (quote) - "I didn't bring up the subject (religion), Wallace did."

As a matter of FACT, noahltl, your christian trader mate, WWJD, brought up the subject prior to my mentioning it.

In that post, she also attacked me for no reason whatsoever. I hadn't addressed her, I hadn't spoken of her and I had said nothing negative about CMKX. She said:

"I can't fathom any other reason unless he is bored and likes conflict. That is a possibility. I know some people really enjoy that. (I don't and that is why I rarely post or read this board. It brings out the worst in me and like most people that is NOT a good thing)."

Now, I ask you, noahltl, who is it that appears to be "bored and likes conflict"? That is EXACTLY what she is doing in that post!! That, too, is a FACT! It would seem that maybe "CMKX brings out the worst" in her...providing one is not in agreement with her cult-like, fanatical opinions and speculations. Then, everyone who has even the slightest opinion otherwise is a "basher", a hijacker" or some other such
negative adjective.



 


Posted by HarryHar on :
 
When's the shareholder party again? And how does one rsvp? THanks.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Here's another one for anyone planning to go to that party to think about.

Whenever such things bring a large quantity of customers to a hotel or motel, the people who originate the party or show get their rooms and other things (such as food and party needs) free of charge. Guess who? And, guess who is paying the chit for them to get things free?

Better yet, who owns the hotel or motel where the party is being held? Does anyone get a cash kickback from bringing in all that business? Rooms, food, service, tips and possibly gambling.

I can just hear them laughing!! Hey, guys, we're going to have a party and the shareholders are going to pay for it!!! LOL

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Posted by sdrobert on :
 
The party is sceduled for oct 29-31st go to www.casavantmining.com for the link I think today is the last day to register. Im trying to get a schedule of events form so I know which day would be the best day to go but as far as I can tell no one has a clue. I even emailed the people of ucad and cmkx and no responce. oh well at least I have a nice divy. hope there are alot of strong longs when the restriction is lifted that way I can sell before any drop if it is looking to be heading that way.
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
http://www.ourbusinessweb.com/cmkx/default.asp
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
All food and drinks are going to be paid for by cmkx and ucad. travel and hotel is the responsibilty of the individual. question is again that no one can answer is when is the food going to be there and when are the important people going to be there. does anyone know??
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
Oh yeah I forgot. Because someone I know brought in a crap load of bussiness to one of the casinos durring that startreck convention. he is getting to use the penthouse of the casino's hotel for one free week, this year and one next year. if he continues to bring them the gamblers he could get some more cool gratis
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Re noahltl's repost 10/5/04 @ 2:09:

There was a mention of John Ed Dhonau. I don't know if this is the same person, but you might be interested in reading info from this site.
http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:hRUiDUfRAXAJ ub159.***********/fdiligizerfrm18.showMessage%3FtopicID%3D394.topic%26index%3D19+Ed+Dhonau&hl=en

Going to watch the debate now.

Sorry, tried to pull it up but did not work.
Will try again later.

Try this: http://pub159.***********/fdiligizerfrm18.showMessage?topicID=394.topic&index=19

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Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
I know the above link did not work. Will try again later...debate.

Here's something else to think about re the loan to Crystalix Group International:

20-Sep-04 SIMS, JIMMY & NANCY
300,000 Planned Sale $29,2501
14-Aug-04 WOODWARD, JOHN S.
Private or Shareholder 341,131 Planned Sale $51,1691
22-Jul-04 CASHMAN, MORGAN & KAREN FAMILY TRUST
Private or Shareholder 341,131 Planned Sale $57,9921
20-Jul-04 RYAN, KEVIN T.
Chief Executive Officer 569,000 Statement of Ownership N/A
20-Jul-04 DILL, HAROLD A.
60,000 Planned Sale $9,6001
6-Jul-04 VIDEO ENTERTAINMENT
Private or Shareholder 135,900 Planned Sale $27,1801
1-Jul-04 RIGGS, RALPH
Treasurer 147,000 Planned Sale $29,0001
30-Jun-04 DHONAU, JOHN E.
331,131 Planned Sale $66,6001

The above are insider transactions of Crystalix. In particular, note Woodward and Dhonau. Interesting! I knew there had to be a connection somewhere!!!!

Will dig more later.

 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
9 red flags to message board scammers
posted by someone else not me

Someone who hyper-posts on only one stock.


Someone who uses multiple identities.


Some who repeatedly attacks or belittles others on a stock's message boards.


Someone who emerges as the stock's moderator, or even the leader of the discussion group on that stock.


Someone, with a short history in their member profile, who suddenly shows up during a stock run-up, and appears to know "all about" the company.


Someone who is nearly always the first to respond to company developments.


Someone who continuously hints at upcoming news and unannounced contracts.


Someone who hypes the company during the run-up and then "changes" his/her mind and begins attacking the company, its insiders and the project.


Someone who goes out of their way to find bad news about the company and makes a "case" out of it.

I wonder how many I fit??
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 

The below is what I was trying to give the site for re: John E Dhonau. I have edited where I have said "NOTE":
www.securities.state.oh.u...M%2FDhonau

State of Ohio
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE
DIVISION OF SECURITIES
COLUMBUS, OHIO 43215


Order No. 98-195

IN THE MATTER OF: JOHN E. DHONAU; MHM COMPANY, INC.

CEASE AND DESIST ORDER


DIVISION ORDER

WHEREAS, the Ohio Division of Securities (hereinafter "the Division") is charged with the responsibility of protecting investors and finds that this order is necessary or appropriate in the public interest or for the protection of investors, and is consistent with the purposes of the Ohio Securities Act, Chapter 1707 of the Ohio Revised Code; and

WHEREAS, the Division has conducted an investigation into the activities of John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc., whose last known address was 8731 Cincinnati-Columbus Road, West Chester, Ohio 45069, and as a result of said investigation, the Division finds as follows:

(1) John "Ed" Dhonau (hereinafter "Dhonau") is a natural person who conducted business in the State of Ohio.

(2) Dhonau is the president and CEO of MHM Company, Inc.

(3) MHM Company, Inc. is an Ohio corporation currently in good standing with the Ohio Secretary of State's Office.

Note:
(4) through (7) redacted...names in (8) below.

(8) Witt, Ledford, Harmon and Cornett were solicited by salesmen for MHM Company, Inc. to invest in a venture through MHM Company, Inc. to finance expenses involved in a divestiture/acquisition transaction involving assets of a multinational oil company.

(9) Witt, Ledford, Harmon and Cornett were informed by salesmen for MHM Company, Inc. that funds given for the above-referenced venture would be returned within thirty days with a return of 20 to 1, i.e. an investor would be repaid $200,000.00 for a $10,000.00 investment.

(10) Witt, Ledford, Harmon and Cornett were also told by the MHM Company, Inc. salesmen that they would be issued a promissory note for any money given, to be secured by the receivables of Detox Industries, a Houston, Texas environmental clean-up firm.

(11) Witt gave $9,500.00, a credit union withdrawal in the form of a money order, on or about May 12, 1995 to a salesman for MHM Company, Inc. for the above-referenced venture, and was issued a promissory note in the amount of $10,000.00, executed by Dhonau, President for MHM Company, Inc.

(12) Ledford gave $9,500.00 on or about May 19, 1995 to a salesman for MHM Company, Inc. for the above-referenced venture, and was issued a promissory note in the amount of $10,000.00, executed by Dhonau, President for MHM Company, Inc.

(13) Harmon gave $4,750.00 on or about July 13, 1995 to a salesman for MHM Company, Inc. for the above-referenced venture, and was issued a promissory note in the amount of $5,000.00, executed by Dhonau, President for MHM Company, Inc.

(14) Cornett gave $19,000.00 on or about April 20, 1995, and $19,000.00 on or about April 23, 1995 to a salesman for MHM Company, Inc. for the above-referenced venture, and was issued two separate promissory notes in the amount of $20,000.00 each, executed by Dhonau for MHM Company, Inc.

(15) MHM Company, Inc. and Dhonau issued promissory notes to at least 30 individuals, of which promissory notes were issued to at least 23 Ohio investors from April 1995 to July 1995, according to documents given to investors as part of the sales presentation and records received by the Division.

(16) On or about June 27, 1996, Witt rolled over his $10,000.00 into four (4) corporate debentures of MHM Company Inc., at $2,500.00 each, that had a "stated rate of 12%," upon being solicited by a salesman for MHM Company, Inc.
(17) Witt was given a document entitled "Accredited Investor Subscription Agreement" to sign which was executed by Dhonau, President of MHM Company, Inc., and is dated June 27, 1996.

(18) The promissory notes described in Paragraphs (11) through (14) and the debentures described in Paragraph (16) fall within the definition of "security" as that term is defined in Revised Code section 1707.01(B).

(19) The transactions described in Paragraphs (11), (12), (13), (14) and (16) fall within the definition of "sale" as that term is defined in Revised Code section 1707.01(C).

(20) Revised Code section 1707.44(C)(1) prohibits the sale in Ohio of securities that are not exempt from the registration requirements of Revised Code sections 1707.02, not the subject matter of an exempt transaction under Revised Code sections 1707.03, 1707.04 or 1707.34, not registered by description, coordination or qualification, or not the subject matter of a transaction that has been registered by description.

(21) The promissory notes sold in Paragraphs (11) through (14) and the debentures sold in Paragraph (16) are not exempt from the registration requirements of Revised Code sections 1707.02, not the subject matter of an exempt transaction under Revised Code sections 1707.03, 1707.04 or 1707.34, not registered by description, coordination or qualification, or not the subject matter of a transaction that has been registered by description, and, therefore, the promissory notes and debentures were sold in violation of Revised Code section 1707.44(C)(1).

WHEREAS, based on Paragraphs (1) through (21) above, the Division finds that John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc. have violated the provisions of Ohio Revised Code section 1707.44(C)(1);

WHEREAS, on February 27, 1998, the Division issued and thereafter served a Notice of Opportunity for Hearing, Division Order No. 98-061, to John E. Dhonau via Certified Mail No. P 123-964-296 and MHM Company, Inc. via Certified Mail No. P 123-964-297, in accordance with Ohio Revised Code Chapter 119, giving notice of the opportunity to request a hearing within thirty (30) days from the date of the mailing of the notice;

WHEREAS, Certified Mail Nos. P 123-964-296 and P 123-964-297 were returned to the Division undelivered to John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc.;

WHEREAS, on April 2, 1998, the Division issued and thereafter served an Amended Notice of Opportunity for a Hearing, Division Order No. 98-061, to John E. Dhonau via Certified Mail No. P 123-964-326 and MHM Company, Inc. via Certified Mail No. P 123-964-324, in accordance with Ohio Revised Code Chapter 119, giving notice of the opportunity to request a hearing within thirty (30) days from the date of the mailing of the notice;

WHEREAS, Certified Mail Nos. P 123-964-326 and P 123-964-324 were returned to the Division undelivered to John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc.;

WHEREAS, in accordance with Chapter 119 of the Ohio Revised Code, notice of Amended Notice of Opportunity for a Hearing, Division Order No. 98-061, was published in the Daily Court Reporter of Montgomery County, Ohio, on April 27, 1998, May 4, 1998 and May 11, 1998;

WHEREAS, in accordance with Chapter 119 of the Ohio Revised Code, the Division mailed to John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc. at their last known address evidence of such publication via Certified Mail No. P 123-964-348 on May 14, 1998;

WHEREAS, John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc. failed to timely request an adjudicative hearing as permitted by Chapter 119 of the Ohio Revised Code; and

THEREFORE, IT IS ORDERED THAT, pursuant to Ohio Revised Code section 1707.23, John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc. CEASE AND DESIST from the acts and practices as described above which constitute violations of Chapter 1707 of the Ohio Revised Code.

KLT/mm

Note: Redacted portion...redundant.


Witness my hand and the official seal of this Division at
Columbus, Ohio this 22nd day of May, A.D. 1998.


Thomas E. Geyer, Commissioner of Securities


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Here's an interesting link:
http://courtgate.coca.co.clark.nv.us/DistrictCourt/asp/SearchKeywordOptions.asp

In the keyword 1 box, type in Casavnat. Maybe someone more astute than I can do some digging around with the results. You can also do a party search with his name and get a few different results.
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Just posting random junk I come across.

Crystalix Group International and NASCAR.COM to Debut New Products on Sept. 30, 2004
Thursday September 30, 7:48 pm ET


LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 30, 2004--Crystalix Group International Inc. (CGI) (OTCBB: CYXG - News) has reached agreement with NASCAR.COM to launch several new exciting products after the very successful debut of the #3 Richard Childress Racing and Jeff Gordon #24 car in major retail/consumer markets.
"The featured products presented by CGI and NASCAR.COM are scheduled to be available for sale beginning Sept. 30, 2004, and will feature custom products developed for the Jeff Gordon #24 car, as well as the Kevin Harvick(TM) #29 car, Jimmy Johnson(TM) #48 car, #3 car owned by Richard Childress Racing and Joe Nemechek #01 car," stated John J. Lais III, CGI's chief marketing officer. "The new product launch for these top NASCAR drivers feature very attractive price points, and we believe the NASCAR.COM fans are looking for great new products in time for the holiday '04 season," stated Dave Blakeman, CGI motorsports manager.

"NASCAR.COM is excited to welcome CGI as a new licensee to the family," stated Joe Mattes, VP of NASCAR.COM. "The CGI patented process allows NASCAR.COM to enter into a new arena in the collectibles market, and we believe our fans will love these new products of their favorite drivers and cars," stated Mattes. All products are "Officially Licensed" by NASCAR.jgrizzo.

Through a very aggressive licensing and marketing campaign, Crystalix Group International Inc. began exposure of its exquisite, licensed 3-D facial images of NASCAR drivers and its full 3-D replica of sponsored racecars for the collectible markets. Our goal is to maximize our license agreements and deliver excitement of this new product to the NASCAR.COM fans.

About Crystalix Group International Inc.

Crystalix is the leading manufacturer, distributor and marketer of laser subsurface engraved optical-quality glass products. Its principal product is a personalized three-dimensional engraved crystal that features the facial image of one or more persons or other three-dimensional images. As of Sept. 30, 2003, Crystalix had 44 kiosks owned by its marketing partners in retail shopping malls, resorts, promenades, casinos, and theme parks where its crystals are engraved and sold. Its engraving process involves the use of a high-resolution digital camera, a laser image scanner, and a laser that is configured together by a standard desktop personal computer, using its proprietary software and a Windows operating system. The laser image scanner converts images from the digital camera, a customer's digital image, or a hard copy photograph into a three-dimensional or two-dimensional digitally formatted image that will be engraved into the center of the crystal by the laser.

This press release contains "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such statements can be identified by lead-in "Looking Forward." These statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve significant risks and uncertainties. Actual results may vary materially from those in the forward-looking statements as a result of the effectiveness of management's strategies and decisions, general economic and business conditions, new or modified statutory or regulatory requirements, and changing price and market conditions. No assurance can be given that these are all the factors that could cause actual results to vary materially from the forward-looking statement.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 


Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
This board became a little redundant

can anybody explain the rise in volume and in price of ucad.
what about jiuna?
it almost doubled

is cmkx next?
maybe tommorow ?
together with an erruption of mt. st. helens
the time should be upon us!

by the way nobody in their right mind would have dumbed shares today before the dividend is payed out.

the shares sold today by the MMs where did they come from?
Naked?
IF news come out tommorrow what would happen?
Covering?
I`m a little lost here,but i asume one day the rules of regular trading will apply also to cmkx.
at this point i have to buy into the naked short theory

 


Posted by Spunky Jay on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by XchangeMODE:
This board became a little redundant

can anybody explain the rise in volume and in price of ucad.
what about jiuna?
it almost doubled

is cmkx next?
maybe tommorow ?
together with an erruption of mt. st. helens
the time should be upon us!

by the way nobody in their right mind would have dumbed shares today before the dividend is payed out.

the shares sold today by the MMs where did they come from?
Naked?
IF news come out tommorrow what would happen?
Covering?
I`m a little lost here,but i asume one day the rules of regular trading will apply also to cmkx.
at this point i have to buy into the naked short theory



I think the rise in price with UCAD is becasue the MM's have been forced to buy these shares on the open market @ retail. That way they cover our divies. The closely watched (no doubt by Roger, Uban the SEC, DTC, to name a few.) and limited amout of UCAD shares cause a "supply vs. demand" rise in price. The same thing with Juina.

I think we will know soon, Roger Glenn did say "we will be well on our way to becoming fully reporting". My guess is by Friday we will have a much clearer picture into CMKX's immediate future. As far as your question regarding, where the MM's shares are coming from, and the volume? The real question to ask is "Where are those shares going to"? I believe Urban has been aggressively retiring shares all along, right up to the minute just before submitting the proper legal paperwork for becoming a fully reporting company. Paying for it with some the the proceeds of the recent cash infusions, and share exchanges with the JV's. Push is coming to shove, and I believe the MM's are up against the wall IMO. The rules and regulations applying to the CMKX will change! Because they will be on another Exchange.

Richest of Blessings to any and all who own this most celebrated of Pinksheet stocks.


The Spunkster.

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Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
So that makes strike 2 for Dhonau. In 2 seperate states. I wonder how many other states he has done some dirty work.
Good work Wallace!
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:

The below is what I was trying to give the site for re: John E Dhonau. I have edited where I have said "NOTE":
www.securities.state.oh.u...M%2FDhonau

State of Ohio
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE
DIVISION OF SECURITIES
COLUMBUS, OHIO 43215


Order No. 98-195

IN THE MATTER OF: JOHN E. DHONAU; MHM COMPANY, INC.

CEASE AND DESIST ORDER


DIVISION ORDER

WHEREAS, the Ohio Division of Securities (hereinafter "the Division") is charged with the responsibility of protecting investors and finds that this order is necessary or appropriate in the public interest or for the protection of investors, and is consistent with the purposes of the Ohio Securities Act, Chapter 1707 of the Ohio Revised Code; and

WHEREAS, the Division has conducted an investigation into the activities of John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc., whose last known address was 8731 Cincinnati-Columbus Road, West Chester, Ohio 45069, and as a result of said investigation, the Division finds as follows:

(1) John "Ed" Dhonau (hereinafter "Dhonau") is a natural person who conducted business in the State of Ohio.

(2) Dhonau is the president and CEO of MHM Company, Inc.

(3) MHM Company, Inc. is an Ohio corporation currently in good standing with the Ohio Secretary of State's Office.

Note:
(4) through (7) redacted...names in (8) below.

(8) Witt, Ledford, Harmon and Cornett were solicited by salesmen for MHM Company, Inc. to invest in a venture through MHM Company, Inc. to finance expenses involved in a divestiture/acquisition transaction involving assets of a multinational oil company.

(9) Witt, Ledford, Harmon and Cornett were informed by salesmen for MHM Company, Inc. that funds given for the above-referenced venture would be returned within thirty days with a return of 20 to 1, i.e. an investor would be repaid $200,000.00 for a $10,000.00 investment.

(10) Witt, Ledford, Harmon and Cornett were also told by the MHM Company, Inc. salesmen that they would be issued a promissory note for any money given, to be secured by the receivables of Detox Industries, a Houston, Texas environmental clean-up firm.

(11) Witt gave $9,500.00, a credit union withdrawal in the form of a money order, on or about May 12, 1995 to a salesman for MHM Company, Inc. for the above-referenced venture, and was issued a promissory note in the amount of $10,000.00, executed by Dhonau, President for MHM Company, Inc.

(12) Ledford gave $9,500.00 on or about May 19, 1995 to a salesman for MHM Company, Inc. for the above-referenced venture, and was issued a promissory note in the amount of $10,000.00, executed by Dhonau, President for MHM Company, Inc.

(13) Harmon gave $4,750.00 on or about July 13, 1995 to a salesman for MHM Company, Inc. for the above-referenced venture, and was issued a promissory note in the amount of $5,000.00, executed by Dhonau, President for MHM Company, Inc.

(14) Cornett gave $19,000.00 on or about April 20, 1995, and $19,000.00 on or about April 23, 1995 to a salesman for MHM Company, Inc. for the above-referenced venture, and was issued two separate promissory notes in the amount of $20,000.00 each, executed by Dhonau for MHM Company, Inc.

(15) MHM Company, Inc. and Dhonau issued promissory notes to at least 30 individuals, of which promissory notes were issued to at least 23 Ohio investors from April 1995 to July 1995, according to documents given to investors as part of the sales presentation and records received by the Division.

(16) On or about June 27, 1996, Witt rolled over his $10,000.00 into four (4) corporate debentures of MHM Company Inc., at $2,500.00 each, that had a "stated rate of 12%," upon being solicited by a salesman for MHM Company, Inc.
(17) Witt was given a document entitled "Accredited Investor Subscription Agreement" to sign which was executed by Dhonau, President of MHM Company, Inc., and is dated June 27, 1996.

(18) The promissory notes described in Paragraphs (11) through (14) and the debentures described in Paragraph (16) fall within the definition of "security" as that term is defined in Revised Code section 1707.01(B).

(19) The transactions described in Paragraphs (11), (12), (13), (14) and (16) fall within the definition of "sale" as that term is defined in Revised Code section 1707.01(C).

(20) Revised Code section 1707.44(C)(1) prohibits the sale in Ohio of securities that are not exempt from the registration requirements of Revised Code sections 1707.02, not the subject matter of an exempt transaction under Revised Code sections 1707.03, 1707.04 or 1707.34, not registered by description, coordination or qualification, or not the subject matter of a transaction that has been registered by description.

(21) The promissory notes sold in Paragraphs (11) through (14) and the debentures sold in Paragraph (16) are not exempt from the registration requirements of Revised Code sections 1707.02, not the subject matter of an exempt transaction under Revised Code sections 1707.03, 1707.04 or 1707.34, not registered by description, coordination or qualification, or not the subject matter of a transaction that has been registered by description, and, therefore, the promissory notes and debentures were sold in violation of Revised Code section 1707.44(C)(1).

WHEREAS, based on Paragraphs (1) through (21) above, the Division finds that John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc. have violated the provisions of Ohio Revised Code section 1707.44(C)(1);

WHEREAS, on February 27, 1998, the Division issued and thereafter served a Notice of Opportunity for Hearing, Division Order No. 98-061, to John E. Dhonau via Certified Mail No. P 123-964-296 and MHM Company, Inc. via Certified Mail No. P 123-964-297, in accordance with Ohio Revised Code Chapter 119, giving notice of the opportunity to request a hearing within thirty (30) days from the date of the mailing of the notice;

WHEREAS, Certified Mail Nos. P 123-964-296 and P 123-964-297 were returned to the Division undelivered to John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc.;

WHEREAS, on April 2, 1998, the Division issued and thereafter served an Amended Notice of Opportunity for a Hearing, Division Order No. 98-061, to John E. Dhonau via Certified Mail No. P 123-964-326 and MHM Company, Inc. via Certified Mail No. P 123-964-324, in accordance with Ohio Revised Code Chapter 119, giving notice of the opportunity to request a hearing within thirty (30) days from the date of the mailing of the notice;

WHEREAS, Certified Mail Nos. P 123-964-326 and P 123-964-324 were returned to the Division undelivered to John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc.;

WHEREAS, in accordance with Chapter 119 of the Ohio Revised Code, notice of Amended Notice of Opportunity for a Hearing, Division Order No. 98-061, was published in the Daily Court Reporter of Montgomery County, Ohio, on April 27, 1998, May 4, 1998 and May 11, 1998;

WHEREAS, in accordance with Chapter 119 of the Ohio Revised Code, the Division mailed to John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc. at their last known address evidence of such publication via Certified Mail No. P 123-964-348 on May 14, 1998;

WHEREAS, John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc. failed to timely request an adjudicative hearing as permitted by Chapter 119 of the Ohio Revised Code; and

THEREFORE, IT IS ORDERED THAT, pursuant to Ohio Revised Code section 1707.23, John E. Dhonau and MHM Company, Inc. CEASE AND DESIST from the acts and practices as described above which constitute violations of Chapter 1707 of the Ohio Revised Code.

KLT/mm

Note: Redacted portion...redundant.


Witness my hand and the official seal of this Division at
Columbus, Ohio this 22nd day of May, A.D. 1998.


Thomas E. Geyer, Commissioner of Securities



 


Posted by Esteban on :
 
Today is the day for our dividends. Is everyone holding their breath? Surely, Urban would not push back the date again.
Esteban

p.s. Much toung and cheek in the above note<G>
 


Posted by ed19363 on :
 
All I know is I doubled my money on the UCAD shares I already held, so now I really dont care what CMKX does.....I GOT MINE!!!

 
Posted by Esteban on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
All I know is I doubled my money on the UCAD shares I already held, so now I really dont care what CMKX does.....I GOT MINE!!!

Congradulations! Glad to hear someone is making money off CMKX / UCAD.
Esteban


 


Posted by Esteban on :
 
I just checked with Yahoo and MyTrack, no news about the dividends, however, it is still early for an announcment of that magnitude.
Esteban
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
our brokers probably wont get the ucad shares till end of day. they should start showing up in our accounts tommorrow. if the ucad rise in the last 2 or 3 trading days is for covering some will get unrestricted shares. if everyone gets the right nunber os shares (about 9.5 per million) and all shares are restricted there was no naked short. if noboby can prove they have unrestricted shares we will of course hear how the DTC restricted those shares without ucad's knowledge. the mm's & the DTC working together to destroy a .0002 company and thus cover both their behinds.
 
Posted by Esteban on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
our brokers probably wont get the ucad shares till end of day. they should start showing up in our accounts tommorrow. if the ucad rise in the last 2 or 3 trading days is for covering some will get unrestricted shares. if everyone gets the right nunber os shares (about 9.5 per million) and all shares are restricted there was no naked short. if noboby can prove they have unrestricted shares we will of course hear how the DTC restricted those shares without ucad's knowledge. the mm's & the DTC working together to destroy a .0002 company and thus cover both their behinds.

Thanks for the explination Bill


 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
Question -

How can CMKX trade before the bell?
On Yahoo it shows that as of 9:07 ,there is over 65,000,000 trades already.

Is this normal? Am I missing something?
 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
Good luck everyone
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
OK - Now I am really confused - at what point yahoo showed additional trades to take it over 74,000,000 and then on refresh it droppped back to 65,000,000.......

*scratching head*

Anyone else see this or is Yahoo out to lunch?
 


Posted by Doctoall on :
 
It showed the same tranaction on E-Trade Marketcaster, can anyone explain!!!

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"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"
 


Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Weird things going on today: E-trade just showed a price of 0.0009 and a days high of 0.0020. Anyone care to speculate as to what is happening with CMKX today besides getting ready to sky rocket!!!!!!!!!

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"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"
 


Posted by will on :
 
Scottrade showed a low of .0001, high of .0009, now it's been corrected to low .0001, high .0003.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ameritrade streamer is showing .0001 to .0003 with almost 5 billion traded. that volume is very high even for cmkx. sure would like to know the buy, sell ratio
 
Posted by tic_toc on :
 
Bill the volume was around 20 billion yesterday.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
was it more buys then sells tic toc
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
just talked to ameritrade about ucad dividend...lady says may take 5 to 10 business days to show up in our accounts. she said call back in 7 business days if not there. also if yesterdays ucad run was from mm's buying to cover those shares would be unrestricted, say nite bought a huge amount to cover and then sent them to the DTC to distribute with the dividend, first the DTC would have to go along with it second they would not become restricted and 2 listings for ucad would show up in any accounts that got both types of ucad shares or you'd get all restricted or all unrestricted

[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited October 06, 2004).]
 


Posted by legal1082 on :
 
My UCAD dividend just hit my Ameritrade account. It says retricted and the amount of shares but no value is listed at all, also the symbol says "n/a*"
 
Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Just now got my restricted shares of UCAD in my Ameritrade account.
 
Posted by valves on :
 
same on my ameritrade account but not on my fidelity yet.

[This message has been edited by valves (edited October 06, 2004).]
 


Posted by legal1082 on :
 
Sorta restores your faith in humanity! lol
 
Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
Just now got my restricted shares of UCAD in my Ameritrade account.

So what did the dividend ratio turn out to be? What is the estimated O/S?

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~,-,-< GatorMan
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
nothing yet in my etrade. they for some reason usualy take about a week to give me any divy I have comming so I dont expect to see it till next week if I see it sooner Ill post
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
tradingpennys wrote:

So that makes strike 2 for Dhonau. In 2 seperate states. I wonder how many other states he has done some dirty work.
Good work Wallace!
--------------------------------------------

Thanks, Tina.

I am becomming more and more convinced that John (Ed) Dhonau, is THE major stockholder in control of UCAD. Further, it appears that he may be the owner (or in control) of the two private companies Nevada Minerals and IB2000...both LV, NV companies. He and Woodward are or were both major shareholders in Crystalix Group International. Another company to keep an eye out for is Horizon Prime Corp...might be Dhonau's as well.

As of now, CMKX has had dealings with UCAD, Nevada Minerals and Crystalix...all with ties to Dhonau.

If VAN's thinking about stocks of companies dealing with CMKX is correct, Crystalix may be worth watching or buying. Don't know for sure.

Still, if this is the same John E Dhonau previously mentioned, extreme care would be a prudent approach.

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Posted by noahltl on :
 
Could be a good day. Got my dividend at Ameritrade. They say that they got them from DTC. This raises the question as to why they didn't get them directly from the TA. Ameritrade also says they are using the ratios from OTC BB, just as they have been. My ratio was 9.6 per million. That means they did not round up as promised by the PR. At that ratio, the OS would be 779,625,779,625. That means that with an AS of 800 billion, that Urban has given up total control of his company, since he wasn't receiving dividends. FAT CHANCE HE DID THAT. So looks like we are back to square one of guessing on the true OS.
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
I dont think the amount of shares we get can tell us the o/s of cmkx since it can be changed with out notice being a pink sheet.
they could have retired or authorized billions of shares today and we would not have to be informed
 
Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
Could be a good day. Got my dividend at Ameritrade. They say that they got them from DTC. This raises the question as to why they didn't get them directly from the TA. Ameritrade also says they are using the ratios from OTC BB, just as they have been. My ratio was 9.6 per million. That means they did not round up as promised by the PR. At that ratio, the OS would be 779,625,779,625. That means that with an AS of 800 billion, that Urban has given up total control of his company, since he wasn't receiving dividends. FAT CHANCE HE DID THAT. So looks like we are back to square one of guessing on the true OS.

Is it possible that he did not receive the dividends and they just stayed with CMKX? So, the ratio was based upon the O/S including his shares but he simply let CMKX keep his shares. I don't recall how it was worded about him not taking the dividend.

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Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Just got this email from Ameritrade.

The rate was .000000962:1

If you have any questions and wish to contact us via e-mail, please log into your account and send your inquiry using the "E-mail Us" link which can be found in the navigation bar at the left side of any page within your account. Select the Reorganization & Dividend Inquiry Form.

Joy Busse
Apex Reorganization and Safekeeping, Ameritrade
Division of Ameritrade, Inc.

 


Posted by will on :
 
Where's the "squeeze of the century"?

Any proponents of the squeeze theory have an opinion why CMKX didn't show evidence of a NSS?

 


Posted by rde3 on :
 
That can't be right, cause I got 38 shares for 5mil of CMKX
 
Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
U S Cdn Minerals Inc     (OTC BB: UCAD) Last Update: 3:32:00 PM ET Oct 6, 2004  
 
U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. Announces Financier Cleared for Trading on London Stock Exchange

LAS VEGAS, Oct 6, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. (UCAD) announced today that Langley Park Investment Trust Plc was admitted to the Full List of the London Stock Exchange and that dealings in Langley shares will commence on Oct. 7, 2004. U.S. Canadian had previously signed an agreement with Langley to engage in a transaction for the funding of the company. The agreement calls for the purchase, by Langley, of U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. common shares, valued at the time of the closing at $9,005,355 USD, in exchange for shares of the investment company.

Langley has been established specifically to invest in U.S. micro cap companies with long-term growth potential.

Langley has entered into a "lock-up" agreement with U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. pursuant to which it has agreed not to trade U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. shares it will receive as a result of this transaction for a period of two years from the closing date. In full payment for the shares of U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc., Langley will issue to U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. $9,005,355 USD equivalent of its shares at a price per share valued at One Pound Sterling.

Fifty percent of Langley's shares issued to U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. will be held in escrow for two years following their issuance and in the event the per share market price of U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. common stock at such time is less than the per share value of U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. stock at the time of the closing, Langley shall be entitled to the return out of escrow a percentage of the investment company's shares equal to the market value of such decline. The remaining shares held in escrow shall be released to U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. at the time of any such release back to Langley.

 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
noahltl, you wrote:

"that Urban has given up total control of his company, since he wasn't receiving dividends. FAT CHANCE HE DID THAT."
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Agreed. Very possible UC has some type of voting arrangement such as Pfd shs which could still control CMKX and always outvote the common shs.

Another possibility is that other family members and he still retain control...the majority of it with the family members (including his wife and children). All he would have to do is sign the certificates over to them prior to that announcement.
 


Posted by rde3 on :
 
I bet Paltalk will be rollin tonight .....
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
noahltl
Member posted October 06, 2004 15:10
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Could be a good day. Got my dividend at Ameritrade. They say that they got them from DTC. This raises the question as to why they didn't get them directly from the TA. Ameritrade also says they are using the ratios from OTC BB, just as they have been. My ratio was 9.6 per million. That means they did not round up as promised by the PR. At that ratio, the OS would be 779,625,779,625. That means that with an AS of 800 billion, that Urban has given up total control of his company, since he wasn't receiving dividends. FAT CHANCE HE DID THAT. So looks like we are back to square one of guessing on the true OS.
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well we do now know the o/s as of aug 20th. it doesn't matter what UC got or not as to this dividend. the split says the o/s can not be less then 779.6 billion. what is not good is that 2 days before the a/s was 500 billion. so UC increased the a/s by 300 billion and in 2 days got rid of 279 billion of those shares. if you remeber aug. 18th was the day the a/s was increased. thats $111,600,000 of shares sold in 2 days at the .0004 it was then $83,700,000 if sold at .0003. now my question is why the need for funding? also since it seems all shares are restricted then there was no naked short as the shares bought yesterday on the open market are not restricted and thus if used to cover would show up in accounts as unrestricted.

[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited October 06, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
bill352, looks and sounds factual to me. How long do you think it will take for the believers to shoot holes in those facts you just posted?

779.6+ Billion O/S has already been challenged.
noah wrote: "So looks like we are back to square one of guessing on the true OS."

No NSS
Well, that has been challenged plenty already. The UCAD run yesterday is what they'll use to prove it. They don't believe there is a difference between restricted and nonrestricted. Maybe they can sell their restricted then?
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
noahltl
Member posted October 06, 2004 15:10

Bill we didn't see any 150 bil volume days back then, or ever

 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
they are already hopelessly trying but the truth always hurts. there are no facts coming from cmkx but there are enough from real sources to piece a few things together. we know from stockwatch (stockwatch got the number from the state of nevada) that CIM was only authorized 25 million shares yet UC says the dividend was to be 40 billion. odds are he cut the dividend to 20 billion thus at some point he has to file with nevada to increase the a/s of CIM public company or not its law. the gemm split which just came out a few days ago works out to 779 billion, back up proof. the part the faithful wont accept is that these numbers come right from cmkx. they are the ones that file the dividend splits with the SEC which is where OTCBB gets its postings
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
noah...call ameritrade talk to the dividend division. i did on the 24th when ucad was first to come out and asked the same thing you just said. the guy told me blocks of 10 to 50 billion get sold without ever getting into the days volume all the time. plus if the a/s is 500 billion on the 17th gets raised to 800 billion on the 18th and then on the 20th the o/s is 779 billion what else can explain it.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i'll give you this noah...maybe there was a naked short of about 300 billion, maybe 400 billion & UC found out the whole truth in the numbers so he raised the a/s to cover the naked short for the mm's and got paid by them for the shares or just did it out of the goodness of his heart, for the shareholders. does that make it any better?
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
It's obvious that since the longs left that this thread wants to believe the worst about CMKX. What I believe is that we still don't know what has been going on in the background. This is not just a trading stock, it is a stock whose future is being guided by a top Wall Street attorney. There are serious problems going on at the DTC. If some here would DD that, instead of trying to find some obscure lawsuit against a JV principal, they would find that many companies have applied to the SEC to be REMOVED from the DTC. Research that one, and you might have some clues about what is going on as we speak. IMO
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Pardon the newbie from butting in, but if it helps, I am holding 27,000,000 CMKX at .0001, and my account was just credited with 259 UCAD restricted shares. Math was never my strong point, but maybe somebody can make something out of that.
Ed
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i agree with the problems in the DTC noah and i am long and holding. i still believe i'll make a nice profit but the facts are the facts even if they didn't come from a press release. read the rules...all dividends to be paid must be reported to the SEC not the DTC also ameritrade said all dividends get put into their account from the DTC which gets them from in the case of shares from the t/a. i do agree that the mm's & the DTC could pass along cover shares bought by the mm's to the broker street accounts but they can't restrict them. to prove a naked short we need proof of ppl with unrestricted shares of ucad in their accounts
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ed19363
New Member posted October 06, 2004 17:02
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Pardon the newbie from butting in, but if it helps, I am holding 27,000,000 CMKX at .0001, and my account was just credited with 259 UCAD restricted shares. Math was never my strong point, but maybe somebody can make something out of that.
Ed
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259 ucad shares divided by 27 million = 9.59 per million. the exact split announced
 


Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Do any of these numbers relate to the O/S, or is that something we will have to wait for from CMKX??
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ucad gave 7,500,000 shares to cmkx for this dividend if you divided the 7.5 million number by the split number you get how many cmkx shares got the dividend thus the 779 billion o/s number
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Thanks, Bill, wish I knew more about these things, but I'm accustomed to dealing with larger stocks that pay cash dividends. May as well ask another question, if you dont mind. Restricted shares (if I understand) have no value, so how long will it be before they become un-restricted? I also have 2 million restricted shares of Casavant mining, and they show no value either.
 
Posted by will on :
 
I saw a close of .0002, not "the squeeze of the century". Maybe the "nonsqueeze of the century".
 
Posted by gmac78 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
ucad gave 7,500,000 shares to cmkx for this dividend if you divided the 7.5 million number by the split number you get how many cmkx shares got the dividend thus the 779 billion o/s number

If I'm not mistaken Rendal Williams was quoted the other day as saying that UC could pay the dividend using the numbers for the A/S, O/S, or the "float", whichever he chooses. It looks like he chose the A/S which still leaves us with not knowing the O/S or the float, retired shares, or anything else. I'm still betting the O/S is low!! IMHO!!!

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gmac
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 






Press Release Source: NanoSignal Corp.


NanoSignal Corp. to Issue Special 20% Restricted Stock Dividend
Wednesday October 6, 1:24 pm ET


LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 6, 2004--NanoSignal Corp. (Pink Sheets: NNOS - News) has determined, after an extensive review of a detailed shareholder audit, conclusive and stunning documented proof of the market making activity involving the approximately 7,000 mystery names of various DTC and NOBO lists obtained by the company document that many names obtained by the company are not shareholders.
To address this very troubling issue, NanoSignal Corp. called a special meeting of legal, accounting and forensic experts together with litigators to discuss this problem and how to resolve this dramatic event. One conclusion approved by the board of directors is to issue a special one time 20% restricted stock dividend to our known shareholders as of Nov. 3, 2004.

The results of this special 20% restricted stock dividend, when issued to proven shareholders who actually do tender their recognized and verified certificates to the company's transfer agent, should prove that although the company can identify approximately 240,000,000 issued shares, other records tend to indicate that there are an additional 500,000,000 shares allegedly held in Street and retirement accounts that regrettably are not recorded shareholders of ours at our transfer agent. To resolve this presumed imbalance of sales to the unsuspecting, NanoSignal Corp. will be issuing a special 20% restricted stock dividend to those actual verified shareholders of record at the transfer agent only.

Details of the pending distribution of restricted shares will be filed in sufficient time to allow newly designed certificates to be issued along with new restricted dividend share certificates from the transfer agent to the actual proven owners of record. "We wish to reward real shareholders while also keeping in mind our desire to provide better security for our real shareholders we are redesigning our share certificates and issuing new ones in conjunction with this special dividend," stated Sir Rupert Perrin, chairman of NanoSignal.

About NanoSignal Corp.

NanoSignal Corp. is a medical technology company introducing its patented Slices(TM) technology to the MRI industry, allowing radiologists and technologists to perform advanced imaging features beyond the capabilities of the standard MRI computer.

Information about NanoSignal Corp. is available at www.nanosignalcorp.com.

This press release contains "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such statements can be identified by the lead-in "Looking Forward." These statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve significant risks and uncertainties. Actual results may vary materially from those in the forward-looking statements as a result of the effectiveness of management's strategies and decisions, general economic and business conditions, new or modified statutory or regulatory requirements, and changing price and market conditions. No assurance can be given that these are all the factors that could cause actual results to vary materially from the forward-looking statement.

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Contact:
NanoSignal Corp.
investor@nanosignalcorp.com
or
Princeton Research Inc. for NanoSignal



 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
if they used the o/s the split would be differant it would be .000009375. the split today was .0000096 thus they could not have used the a/s. if they did thats even worse...it means the purposely increased the a/s 2 days before the own by date by 300 billion. i'd say that kind of move is not sharteholder friendly. you might disagree but cutting a dividnd by 300 billion shares 2 day before is wrong.

as for the restriction...we dont knoiw when it will be lifted

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Posted by Upside on :
 
Noah,
I agree with you, there are people here that for whatever reason don't want this stock to succeed, I however am not one of them. I want this thing to fly to the lofty heights that many have predicted. Wanting though is not an excuse to turn a blind eye to the facts surrounding this company. I'm in this now for 1,400 dollars, a lot to some, a pittance to others either way, I however can't let it cloud my objectivity. You bring up the focus on the negative with this thread but if you look at them, they are for the most part grounded in fact and history. The longs or believers (and there's still plenty of them here) are basing their hopes on wild theorys and ridiculous assumptions that have never happened in the entire history of the stock market. Regarding my post about the races the other day, it was an impartial post with the exception of the Green Baron gentleman which I did on purpose to prove a point. The believers in this company will latch on to anything they can to discredit any negative statement. What did you, Workaholic, and others do? You jumped on that one point yet failed to mention that I prefaced my comment with a "judging on looks" statement. Who's clouding the truth here? Regarding the digging up of obscure lawsuits comment, If I could find a site that showed Urban was up for a humanitarian award or had done good deeds in the past, I would post those as well. Believe me, we share the same want for this stock, I just believe in looking at both sides of the story, good and bad.
 
Posted by will on :
 
The facts are in our accounts in black and white, and yet there is still denial.
There wasn't any "sqeeze of the century", sorry to say, I was hoping I was wrong.
 
Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
At least we got dividends.. How much the UCAD pps going to be when they become unrestricted is a different story...

[This message has been edited by TruthTeller (edited October 06, 2004).]
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Let me just explain quickly. When the story unfolds, you can bash me if I'm wrong. I think everyone knows that there is a naked shorting problem. If you don't think it is true for CMKX, at least admit that the hundreds of companies bringing lawsuits against the MM's have some proof of their claim. Look above at what I posted from Nano Signal. Many, many, companies are having to go this route.

If you can believe that naked shorting is a reality, then you would also have to agree that for it to be widespread, that the DTC has to be involved and complicit.

Today, our shares in UCAD were distributed by the DTC according to what numbers. Ours
or theirs? Can anyone see a trap being sprung? Can anyone else see that this "Squeeze" is actually coming down on the DTC as well as the MM's?

 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
noah...i do not disagree with you. the mm's & the DTC are criminal. i've emailed both my congressman & house rep about it. and we might find out in the next few days that ppl did not get ucad shares. maybe the DTC knew which shares were naked & they got unrestricted ucad shares today. but there are certain facts that can't be escaped

1) the otc split number comes from the SEC who gets this number from cmkx. if cmkx is playing honest this is the way it worked. ameritrade is my broker, it was them that explained to me how it works it is also has been posted in cmkx threads before, the SEC rules about dividends

2) if the a/s was used the split would have been 8.5 not the 9.6 we got. do the math

3) 2 days before the own by date cmkx raised its a/s by 300 billion shares. 279 billion of these shares showed up in the ucad split. why or who got the money we don't know. we do know our dividend and o/s was diluted by 279 billion from the a/s as of aug. 17th

noah & whoever else, i think all of you are not stupid ppl for any split number to get used it had to come from UC. lets say these 279 billion are not in the o/s. that means he just diluted our dividends by 279 billion. is there any reason to make that a good thing? in the shareholders interest?. i'm not trying to bash cmkx. these are just putting the facts that many ppl, positve ones & negitive ones have spent time & effort to put together
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
Let me just explain quickly. When the story unfolds, you can bash me if I'm wrong. I think everyone knows that there is a naked shorting problem. If you don't think it is true for CMKX, at least admit that the hundreds of companies bringing lawsuits against the MM's have some proof of their claim. Look above at what I posted from Nano Signal. Many, many, companies are having to go this route.

If you can believe that naked shorting is a reality, then you would also have to agree that for it to be widespread, that the DTC has to be involved and complicit.

Today, our shares in UCAD were distributed by the DTC according to what numbers. Ours
or theirs? Can anyone see a trap being sprung? Can anyone else see that this "Squeeze" is actually coming down on the DTC as well as the MM's?


Noah, if you are right then UC is TRULY a Robin Hood.....
if you are right i will be the FIRST to apologize to you and esp. DEBI......

i am a SKEPTICAL optimist. i agree that there are NS issues all over the penny market, but i still don't see the numbers in CMKX trading to support these claims....


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Noah, I agree that there is a naked short problem, to what extent should be debated by others more knowledgable than you or I. What bothers me is that so many are banking on the fact that Urban & Mr. Glenn are going to make history and expose the whole mess. Again, this would be unprecented in the history of the market and a tiny pink sheet company is going to bring it all to light? I just have a difficult time swallowing that.

[This message has been edited by Upside (edited October 06, 2004).]
 


Posted by toddr545 on :
 
anybody know why etrade is not showing any ucad divy? Ive had my cmkx cince april and may.
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
I check the trading records and there were 2 or 3 - 0.002's and right next to them it said "error". What is really wierd is this chart on CMKX - http://host.businessweek.com/businessweek/corporate_snapshot.html?Symbol=cmkx
52 Wk High: 51.500 <- NO WAY!

52 Wk Low: 0.001

quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
Weird things going on today: E-trade just showed a price of 0.0009 and a days high of 0.0020. Anyone care to speculate as to what is happening with CMKX today besides getting ready to sky rocket!!!!!!!!!



 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
trading...we missed our chance!!!!!! lets see $51 X 2 million minus taxes & commision ya i could except that profit margin...lol
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
noahltl wrote:

(1)"it is a stock whose future is being guided by a top Wall Street attorney.
(2)There are serious problems going on at the DTC.
(3)If some here would DD that, instead of trying to find some obscure lawsuit against a JV principal,"
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1) "Guided"?? Then, why didn't he DEMAND disclosure of the increase in authorized? He had to know the impact when found out or leaked out! That does NOT sound much like a "top Wall Street attorney" to me.

(2)You mentioned hundreds of companies. Is that true or is it an exaggeration? I have seen no evidence of "hundreds of companies", whether going after the MMs or the DTC with lawsuits.

(3)"an obscure lawsuit against a JV partner"??
As I understand the FACTS, it is not the only lawsuit. Apparently that company (MHM Company, he was Pres. and signed all documents) was selling something where they guaranteed a 20 to 1 return...and that is not a SCAM? If you were investigating Dhnoau as a police detective, is that what you would conclude with such evidence? Obscure? How many others might he have been involved with?
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I doubt there are few, if any, on this thread who do not want CMKX to succeed. Some see the majority of the FACTS directed toward a BK situation or worse. For my part, I do not care one way or the other. I do wish many of the hopeful lots of luck.

Pay attention to what Bill1352 is saying about the issued and outstanding shs amount!
THAT is just ONE more key reason CMKX is going down (.0002 today). It appears to be nothing more than a circus act or shell game! What a book this one will make!!!

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited October 06, 2004).]

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Posted by user095263 on :
 
Ok, admittedly I haven't been following... not done DD on UCAD.
it's such a circus in here.

if it's too lame a question, I apologize..

but what are we supposed to do with these shares of US CANADIAN MINERALS INC RESTRICTED that just showed up in our accounts that have no assigned value?

~BB
 


Posted by will on :
 
They are restricted. You cannot trade them until the restriction is lifted. The company has not advised when that will be.
So, you have to just let them sit there, when they become free trading they will assign the value at that time.
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
Ok, admittedly I haven't been following... not done DD on UCAD.
it's such a circus in here.

if it's too lame a question, I apologize..

but what are we supposed to do with these shares of US CANADIAN MINERALS INC RESTRICTED that just showed up in our accounts that have no assigned value?

~BB



 


Posted by user095263 on :
 
ah, ok...

so don't unwrap 'til next christmas?
~BB
 


Posted by will on :
 
Kinda/sorta, maybe. lol
Just hope they aren't .0002 when they do unrestrict them.


quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
ah, ok...

so don't unwrap 'til next christmas?
~BB


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Posted by noahltl on :
 
Wallace said:

1) "Guided"?? Then, why didn't he DEMAND disclosure of the increase in authorized? He had to know the impact when found out or leaked out! That does NOT sound much like a "top Wall Street attorney" to me.

(2)You mentioned hundreds of companies. Is that true or is it an exaggeration? I have seen no evidence of "hundreds of companies", whether going after the MMs or the DTC with lawsuits.

(3)"an obscure lawsuit against a JV partner"??
As I understand the FACTS, it is not the only lawsuit. Apparently that company (MHM Company, he was Pres. and signed all documents) was selling something where they guaranteed a 20 to 1 return...and that is not a SCAM? If you were investigating Dhnoau as a police detective, is that what you would conclude with such evidence? Obscure? How many others might he have been involved with?


1) Why didn't he demand disclosure? We are a "pink" no requirement for disclosure. A good attorney doesn't allow much to be said if it applies to his strategy.

2) OK I'll give you that one. I finished with many, many. I really don't know if there are hundreds of lawsuits yet, but there are hundreds of companies complaining either by lawsuit, or by PR. Admitted, some of these are using ns as a cover for their mismanagement. But there is too much smoke not to be fire. Some of those many, many I have posted here in past threads.

3) The lawsuit that was posted here was in Ohio, if I recall. It was local and involved only a few "victims". If it had been a nationwide "scam" the Feds would have been involved civily or criminally. I remember doing an investigation on a couple of Kirby sweeper salesmen in my jurisdiction. They were making some pretty outrageous claims about their product. The victims filed suit as well, against the Kirby Co. and their President. But after investigation, it was just the salesmen trying to earn a little commission. I never suspected or had any reason to suspect that the President of the Kirby Co. was involved. But the company was slapped on the wrists, just as the lawsuit used here. It is common in business, it does not indicate a nationwide criminal network.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
noahltl,

My repost of that lawsuit stated as follows:

(15) MHM Company, Inc. and Dhonau issued promissory notes to at least 30 individuals, of which promissory notes were issued to at least 23 Ohio investors from April 1995 to July 1995, according to documents given to investors as part of the sales presentation and records received by the Division.
----------
You stated:

3) The lawsuit that was posted here was in Ohio, if I recall. It was local and involved only a few "victims".
---------
Noahltl, that suit involved just a few investors that appear to have been hoodwinked. Not so local either...23 found in Ohio from Apr '95 to Jul '95 (4 mos)...and that is state wide. Total of 30 found during that time. Doesn't it make sense that they were operating far longer than 4 months? It would take longer than that to just do a little dirty work! Looks like at least 7 others found were outside Ohio. Not so local either. How many more could have been found outside Ohio with further investigation beyond the 4 month span. Inside Ohio?
---------
You also stated:

They were making some pretty outrageous claims about their product.
--------
Apparently that was the Kirby salesmen exaggerating about their product. Maybe Dhonau's salesmen DID exaggerate as well with the 20 to 1 return. However, that was not the illegal act for which a "Cease and Desist" order was issued against MHM and John (Ed) Dhnoau. He apparently illegally issued securities.

This is what that "order" was about:

"therefore, the promissory notes and debentures were sold in violation of Revised Code section 1707.44(C)(1)."

That was a violation of Ohio securities law by MHM Company and it's President, John (Ed) Dhonau (not by the salesmen).
--------
You also wrote:

1) Why didn't he demand disclosure? We are a "pink" no requirement for disclosure. A good attorney doesn't allow much to be said if it applies to his strategy.

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No requirement for disclosure? Of course there was. Information about the 300 billion increase in authorized had leaked out and it is obvious some traders had the information while others did not have access to that information. Further, it was Glenn who indicated the need for full disclosure in the SEC rulings. In addition, it was the "proper" thing to do from a business point of view by a publicly trading company.

The "strategy" response is too weak and without merit.


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Posted by tigertony on :
 
Noahltl you should be a defense attorney.You can spin anything.Either that or be working with Cmkx ahh ha maybe you are.LOL Nothing personal but none of this whole mess does'nt bother you.It might work out i hope it does for all share holders,but you can honestly say it does'nt,seem,look and feel,and with the facts so far look like a scam.Would you recommend that i buy in right now.Good Luck
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
trading...we missed our chance!!!!!! lets see $51 X 2 million minus taxes & commision ya i could except that profit margin...lol

LOL... You read my mind! BTW Bill, I like your posts. You impress me.

Tina

 


Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
Has anyone with Trading Direct received their divvy's?

 
Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by toddr545:
anybody know why etrade is not showing any ucad divy? Ive had my cmkx cince april and may.

Don't know. Not in my ETRADE account either. I think they are just slower than some of the other brokerages.

------------------
~,-,-< GatorMan
 


Posted by right42day on :
 
I have Etrade, nothing yet.

GLTA
 


Posted by ludinlo on :
 
I'm not seeing my UCAD shares coming in. I use Action Direct which is through Royal Bank.

Anybody else?
 


Posted by Justhis1ce on :
 
Trading Direct says UCAD will be distributed in a week's time....sent me an e-mail with details of divvy.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i was suprised when they showed up in my ameritrade account. not 5 mins before they did i was told by them on the phone that it might be 5 to 10 days. if cmkx was naked shorted it will take 10 days to play out & find the evidence. either ppl will not get shares or they will get unrestricted shares of ucad. unrestricted shares mean the mm's & the DTC covered their butts
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Good thing they gave me restricted UCAD shares. I would have sold them like a hot rock this morning for an instant profit.
Ed
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i'd hold ucad...they hold the most rights to the claims. if any of the 6 companies benifit from a big diamond find it will be ucad. it would be nice to open an account in canada and buy into the 3 canadian companies involved. 1's around .15
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
bill - which one are you referring too?

 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
this is from my watch list on msn


CA:KPG
Consol Pine Channel Gold (CA:KPG) $0.11 0.00 0%
CA:SEI.H
Shane Resources (CA:SEI.H) $0.36 0.00 0%
CA:UCA
United Carina Res (CA:UCA) $0.42 +0.02 +5%

[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited October 07, 2004).]
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
Rick Walker runs both kpg & uca. at one time both had 25% of the claims. I'm not sure when or how much shane got. i can't find a pr stating how they got in on this only 1 stating the were part of the group of involved companies meeting in canada. the famous meeting a couple months ago
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
originally it was cmkx then they divided it up into 4 companies with each holding 25%...cmkx, ucad, uca, kpg. then cmkx sold 15% of their 25% to ucad and then 5% to sggm. you have to go back to late last yr & early this yr to find the prs. if i remember right you might find all deals in feb. 2004's prs except the newer ucad & sggm deals
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Bill,

Here are the ones I am watching on Yahoo
CMKK
UCA
KPG
UCAD
SGF
GEMM
ECPN
SGGM
CYXG
Beleive it or not, they are all involved together one way or another -
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i agree jeal.. i was talking about the companies that had claim right to the place cmkx is drilling right now or where they just finished and are moving too.
 
Posted by JEAL on :
 
Just dont ask me how they are related ok.
 
Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
So now to the really related ones as of today thursday around noon

CMKX up 50%

UCAD up 20.42%

GEMM up 20%

SGGM up 6.25%

by the way st. george looks really good
from technical point of view.

and cmkx
well
we
wait
and
see!

good luck to us all!
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
no divy yet etrade what is going on grr
 
Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
I have Ameritrade and got my dividends at 9.6/Million rate..
I heard that Fidelity ppl got the divys as well.
E-trade & TD - nope
What abt Choicetrade, Freetrade, Lowtrade and Schwab?
Just curious..
 
Posted by case on :
 
Some of the on line trading sites
like to wait about a week after
they are given to make sure they actually have them!!(at least on pennies)
___________________________________
no divy yet etrade what is going on grr
____________________________________
 
Posted by Prdponce on :
 

Lowtrades no divy yet.


quote:
Originally posted by TruthTeller:
I have Ameritrade and got my dividends at 9.6/Million rate..
I heard that Fidelity ppl got the divys as well.
E-trade & TD - nope
What abt Choicetrade, Freetrade, Lowtrade and Schwab?
Just curious..


 


Posted by GatorMan on :
 
Called ETRADE regarding the dividend. I'm told they need to elevate the question to another level and will get back to me when they get a response. I did get confirmation that the payout is 1 UCAD for each 103,950 CMKX.

[Added response from ETRADE]

The shares should reflect on your account tomorrow. I apologize for the delay. If you have further questions please call us at 800-786-2575.

------------------
~,-,-< GatorMan

[This message has been edited by GatorMan (edited October 07, 2004).]
 


Posted by case on :
 
sdrobert:
I was sneaking on at work, so was kind of short reply earlier. Here is what Trading Direct told me when I asked about them!

"It is anticipated that it will take at least a week from the payable date, in
order to receive the new shares from the transfer agent, and then deposit
them to your account. Here are the details of distributions from CMKX:"

"no divy yet etrade what is going on grr"
____________________________________


 


Posted by JEAL on :
 
U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. Announces Langley Park Investment Trust Plc Now Trading on London Stock Exchange
Thursday October 7, 3:23 pm ET


LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 7, 2004--U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. (OTCBB: UCAD - News) announced today that Langley Park Investment Trust Plc was admitted to the Full List of the London Stock Exchange and that dealings in Langley shares commenced on Oct. 7, 2004. U.S. Canadian had previously signed an agreement with Langley to engage in a transaction for the funding of the company. The agreement calls for the purchase, by Langley, of U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. common shares, valued at the time of the closing at $9,005,355 USD, in exchange for shares of the investment company.
Langley has been established specifically to invest in U.S. micro cap companies with long-term growth potential.

Langley has entered into a "lock-up" agreement with U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. pursuant to which it has agreed not to trade U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. shares it will receive as a result of this transaction for a period of two years from the closing date. In full payment for the shares of U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc., Langley will issue to U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. $9,005,355 USD equivalent of its shares at a price per share valued at One Pound Sterling.

Fifty percent of Langley's shares issued to U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. will be held in escrow for two years following their issuance and in the event the per share market price of U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. common stock at such time is less than the per share value of U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. stock at the time of the closing, Langley shall be entitled to the return out of escrow a percentage of the investment company's shares equal to the market value of such decline. The remaining shares held in escrow shall be released to U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. at the time of any such release back to Langley.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

Statements contained in this document which are not historical fact are forward-looking statements based upon management's current expectations that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in or implied by forward-looking statements.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Contact:
U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc.
Chris Hanneman, 303-220-8476

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Source: U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc.
 


Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Does anyone have any idea what is taking so long to get CMKX website back up?? I built my website in one day....you would think professionals could do it a lot faster.
 
Posted by Pieman99 on :
 

Try CMKM


quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Does anyone have any idea what is taking so long to get CMKX website back up?? I built my website in one day....you would think professionals could do it a lot faster.


 


Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
ucad looks good ,with a leg up
sggm looks great
cmkx ? when?

question?
does anybody know if date-line
is going to air the STOCKGATE special
or anything about it!
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
STOCKGATE!

Its long otherwise I'd post it here.
http://www.investors.com/breakingnews.asp?journalid=23425161&brk=1
 


Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
BIG QUESTION???

WHY A DIVIDEND???

to boost UCAD ?

it`s going through the roof!

or did anybody think about this one????
(i haven`t been following other boards or other peoples theories too much lately,so excuse me if it has allready been posted)

if the dividends are all accounted for,in a week or so.
what`s going to happen?

guess what,they will know how many people have been holding cmkx,which might be greater than the O/S plus the shares traded during this time-period
(and this is speculation) the shares that have been retired

as far as i know there are 800 billion authorized shares
the outstanding shares have been just speculation from a few individuals on their dividend calculation.
so there goes the proof of the o/s beeing 783 b. or whatever it was.


something is happening
and it will be soon!
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
Hey anyone with TD Waterhouse? Any sign of divident? I see NOTHING in my account!

And do brokers charge fee for putting divident into your account?
 


Posted by will on :
 
What?

quote:
Originally posted by XchangeMODE:
BIG QUESTION???

WHY A DIVIDEND???

to boost UCAD ?

it`s going through the roof!

or did anybody think about this one????
(i haven`t been following other boards or other peoples theories too much lately,so excuse me if it has allready been posted)

if the dividends are all accounted for,in a week or so.
what`s going to happen?

guess what,they will know how many people have been holding cmkx,which might be greater than the O/S plus the shares traded during this time-period
(and this is speculation) the shares that have been retired

as far as i know there are 800 billion authorized shares
the outstanding shares have been just speculation from a few individuals on their dividend calculation.
so there goes the proof of the o/s beeing 783 b. or whatever it was.


something is happening
and it will be soon!



 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
I have a question...If UCAD were to do a forward split before our restrictied shares are lifted,would our restricted shares reflect the forward split as well?
By the way Barchart thinks alot of UCAD,100% buy accross the board.And R.W. has mentioned a forward split in the past.

 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Let's try this theory. 800 billion AS minus the 21 billion PR'd as retired equals 779 billion, just about the ratio number of UCAD distributed.

The last PR on the dividend said that they wanted "every" shareholder to receive the dividend. So let's say the Roger contacts the SEC and says there is a major NS on CMKX and that they are going to issue a dividend to every share outstanding, including the NS shares. How can they do that if they don't know how many shares have been naked shorted? Roger says we'll just issue a dividend to every share, up to the total AS / 500 billion less 21 billion, and see how the DTC handles them.

The authorization is communicated to the DTC and the DTC begins distribution yesterday. They distribute as far as they can, and UH OH, not enough to go around. SEC is watching. FED CALL. Lots of brokerage houses don't have divys for the shareholders. Excuses are being made to shareholders of long delays, and "Trap" sprung. MM's given a few days to a couple of weeks to cover. NSS trading comes to a screeching halt and the market for CMKX comes back to a normal flow as it did today, and the pps begins rising, as it did today. Sound like the beginings of a squeeze. Only time will tell now.
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
cmkx website is back up
it is www.casavantmining.com

on line brokers should not get a commision from a dividend. I got one a dividend I am in etrade and they did not charge me a commision when I got it. only when I sell it or if I buy anything.
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
go question do restricted shares get the split if there is one????
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
it is kind of strange that with the divy being sent out that the stock would go high. I thought they issued more to give out a stock divy. maybe this is some sort of shorting and if it is how hight will ucad go before we all have our true divies.
what I mean by true is that show a value in our accounts. I got a restricted divy. gives a cusip number but it also shows a value
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
noah i'm proud of ya...lol its the first idea that pie in the shy wasn't involved...just yankin your chain a bit...i do agree to a point. this could have been done without increasing and thus diluting the o/s by 300 billion. it could have been done at 500 billion with the same result. if it turns out that there are not enough ucad shares there still will be ppl without the dividend and those of us that did get shares have the dividend diluted by 60% even if the 279 billion were never sold
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i've been wondering why ucad has gone up so much too...111% this last month and no real news. if ucad has a forward split our shares also split. they are restricted common shares
 
Posted by will on :
 
noah wrote:

"Excuses are being made to shareholders of long delays, and "Trap" sprung."

I wouldn't think the excuses are being made for the reason you state. It is more like certain brokerages do not distribute in a timely manner. It seems to be the same houses with every dividend. I doubt your theory very much, but cannot disprove it.
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Thanks Bill,that's what I hoped I'd here about a UCAD fs.
 
Posted by will on :
 
"IF"
They're all "IFS". We only know there was a dividend, or at least I do, it's in my account, restricted.

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
Thanks Bill,that's what I hoped I'd here about a UCAD fs.


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
"IF"
They're all "IFS". We only know there was a dividend, or at least I do, it's in my account, restricted.


HA HA HA
Yea "IF"
Got mine too.(go UCAD)
Pennyland is just one BIG "if",is it not.
I don't know R.W. or "if" what he said was true or not,but I remember reading he wanted to let it run to $30 and fs.Again,again,ect.
But who doesn't want to see that?LOL
 


Posted by will on :
 
Seeing it in my account is believing it, child. Anything short of that is fantastic fantasy, like most theory and conjecture connected to this 7 headed freak of a monster stock.

 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
"IF"
They're all "IFS". We only know there was a dividend, or at least I do, it's in my account, restricted.


Ditto, I got mine this morning.
 


Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
I have to admit that I wasn't happy with the was things were going until yesterday. At least I am happy today with receiving the dividends and closing 50% up. Some people still did not get the dividends, hearing many things from people who called their brokerages. Every thing is a mystery with the stock. I doubt about the short squeeze in penny range (more than .01) even though I will be very happy if it happens.

 
Posted by lostone on :
 
Question here..
I read sometime ago that it would cost several hundreds of dollars on Ameritrade to sell these Restricted shares after the restriction is lifted.. am i wrong? cuz it doesn't make.. i hope i am, b/c i only got 5 shares, and that would suck if i have to put in money to sell these.. bleh..
 
Posted by TruthTeller on :
 
I remember it as $250, not sure though. Why don't you call them up and find out?

quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
Question here..
I read sometime ago that it would cost several hundreds of dollars on Ameritrade to sell these Restricted shares after the restriction is lifted.. am i wrong? cuz it doesn't make.. i hope i am, b/c i only got 5 shares, and that would suck if i have to put in money to sell these.. bleh..


 


Posted by will on :
 
That be a kick in the nuts, ain't it? Cost $250 to sell $50 worth of stock.
Guess it depends on your broker. I haven't checked with mine. I use freetrade, owned by Amitrade. If I recall Ameritrade charges $250 to sell when restrictions are lifted, not sure, seem to remember that.

quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
Question here..
I read sometime ago that it would cost several hundreds of dollars on Ameritrade to sell these Restricted shares after the restriction is lifted.. am i wrong? cuz it doesn't make.. i hope i am, b/c i only got 5 shares, and that would suck if i have to put in money to sell these.. bleh..


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ameritrade said $250 only if you sell the shares. also that charge may not apply. it depends on how the restriction is lifted which of course was supposed to be told to us in a pr from cmkx. remember the pr announcing it information to be announced at a later date. ppl with mytrack will be getting their ucad shares in the mail unless mytrack has change their policy. they told me that they do not hold any restricted shares at all. when the restriction is lifted they will need to be mailed to ucad's t/a for exchange to unrestricted shares and then sent back to your account. you can do this with ameritrade also if that charge does end up applying but it will cost $40
 
Posted by will on :
 
noah wrote:
"MM's given a few days to a couple of weeks to cover. NSS trading comes to a screeching halt and the market for CMKX comes back to a normal flow as it did today, and the pps begins rising, as it did today. Sound like the beginings of a squeeze. Only time will tell now."

I had to read that a couple times. It looks as if I am being told that the "squeeze" has begun. The dividend is paid, been paid, why would the squeeze ocurr afterwards? I think I need this explained better than it was.
 


Posted by GatorMan on :
 
UCAD shares showed up in my ETRADE account. Ratio was 1 per 111,111. I was told yesterday it was supposed to be 1 for 103,950. It looks like I'll be calling ETRADE today.

------------------
~,-,-< GatorMan
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i'm wondering whats going to be said if no pps increase by the CIM dividend in a few weeks. i'm not real confident that cmkx is going to explain the differance in the dividend splits. 1 before CIM has 779 billion cmkx shares in on the split as does the one after it but CIM split says 1.6 trillion. info from stockwatch says CIM is authorized only 25 million shares. the CIM dividend has to have been cut in half to 20 billion. the a/s i'm guessing will be raised to 40 billion thus leaving 20 billion in the treasury so company control is not lost. now if any of the rumors of jumping into a shell company to reduce the stupid 779 billion o/s are true it would give us a 40/1 rs or 1,000,000 shares would become 25,000 shares the pps would go to .012 and if done before the gemm pay date it would give that dividend value. it would also mean that the entire float would be owned. if there was not much of a i'm pi**ed off sell a real diamond find report not a it was diamondferous report could drive the pps up if roger is doing his job he knows there is no way for a company with a 779 billion o/s to ever increase shareholder value

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Posted by bill1352 on :
 
at least your cmkx shares weren't naked gator

 
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Posted by right42day on :
 
I have Etrade and received 21 UCAD for my 2,400,000 CMKX. Is this correct?
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
WMC Resources... Section six is particularly interesting.
http://www.wmc.com/pubpres/annrep03.htm
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
for a moment there DW i thought you got that from cmkx...lol your share count for 2.4 mil is about right. i got 19 for 2,062,000
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
thats not fair bringing in real company type info into cmkx...lol ya might make a few ppl feel inferior
 
Posted by right42day on :
 
Thanks guys, Hi Ho, Hi Ho, off to work I go.

GLTA
Laurie
 


Posted by dwman on :
 
LOL bill. Actually, the reason for the post is that on another board, some guy claims that he got a letter from some European broker telling him or her that shares of WMC Resources were being deposited in his account. Somehow related to GEMM. For what it's worth.
 
Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
Cmkm Diamond Inc     (OTHER OTC: CMKX) Last Update: 9:30:00 AM ET Oct 8, 2004  
 
CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Joint Venture on Uranium Claims

LAS VEGAS, Oct 8, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- CMKM Diamonds, Inc., (Pink Sheets:CMKX) is pleased to announce it has reached an agreement with United Carina Resources Corp. (UCA) CDNX whereby CMKX can earn a 50 percent interest in recently acquired uranium properties in the Athabaska Basin area of northern Saskatchewan. The terms of the agreement call for CMKX to pay $100,000 dollars on signing and spend $500,000 on exploration during the first year. A further $100,000 is payable on the first anniversary and $750,000 dollars is to be spent during the second year of the deal.

The properties consist of approximately 35,800 acres and are located in the Wollaston Lake - Hatchet Lake area of Saskatchewan. A substantial amount of exploration has been carried out on these properties in the past and United Carina Resources Corp. is undertaking a compilation of all the data available and will undertake fieldwork as soon as possible. Previous work on the claims outlined several conductive zones, which yielded assays in excess of 1% U3Oa. The properties are located 30 kilometers north and northeast of four known uranium deposits (Rabbit Lake, McLean Lake, Collins Bay, and Eagle Point). United Carina will be the operator of the project and Mr. Dave Billard of Saskatoon will be the Qualified Person for the project.

The Wollaston area is one of the world's most prolific districts for rich uranium deposits. Two classifications of deposits are present: the unconformity-type and the basement-type. The unconformity deposits are related to the base of the Athabasca sandstone and usually occur at the contact of the Archean granitoid gneisses with the Aphebian meta sediments (e.g. Collins Bay, McClean Lake). Basement deposits are hosted solely in the meta sediments (e.g. Rabbit Lake, Eagle Point).

All known deposits are related to the junction of north-easterly and northerly-trending faults, and have a close association with graphitic rocks. These deposits may be up to 1000 meters long, 100 meters wide, and less than 20 meters thick. The ore pods consist of a high-grade uranium ore. The deposits are surrounded by extensive alteration halos of chlorite, cericite, illite, and tourmaline. The majority of these deposits straddle the edge of the Athabasca sandstone and exhibit varying degrees of geophysical responses and radiometric signatures.

The claim blocks held by United Carina Resources Corp. have many of the above geophysical characteristics and hence have good exploration potential for uranium.

To view further company updates, you can go to our website locatedat http://www.casavantmining.com.

 


Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Anyone know about the joint Uranium venture CKMX signed

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"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"
 


Posted by netsec on :
 
CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Joint Venture on Uranium Claims
Friday October 8, 9:30 am ET


LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 8, 2004--CMKM Diamonds, Inc., (Pink Sheets:CMKX - News) is pleased to announce it has reached an agreement with United Carina Resources Corp. (UCA) CDNX whereby CMKX can earn a 50 percent interest in recently acquired uranium properties in the Athabaska Basin area of northern Saskatchewan. The terms of the agreement call for CMKX to pay $100,000 dollars on signing and spend $500,000 on exploration during the first year. A further $100,000 is payable on the first anniversary and $750,000 dollars is to be spent during the second year of the deal.
The properties consist of approximately 35,800 acres and are located in the Wollaston Lake - Hatchet Lake area of Saskatchewan. A substantial amount of exploration has been carried out on these properties in the past and United Carina Resources Corp. is undertaking a compilation of all the data available and will undertake fieldwork as soon as possible. Previous work on the claims outlined several conductive zones, which yielded assays in excess of 1% U3Oa. The properties are located 30 kilometers north and northeast of four known uranium deposits (Rabbit Lake, McLean Lake, Collins Bay, and Eagle Point). United Carina will be the operator of the project and Mr. Dave Billard of Saskatoon will be the Qualified Person for the project.

The Wollaston area is one of the world's most prolific districts for rich uranium deposits. Two classifications of deposits are present: the unconformity-type and the basement-type. The unconformity deposits are related to the base of the Athabasca sandstone and usually occur at the contact of the Archean granitoid gneisses with the Aphebian meta sediments (e.g. Collins Bay, McClean Lake). Basement deposits are hosted solely in the meta sediments (e.g. Rabbit Lake, Eagle Point).

All known deposits are related to the junction of north-easterly and northerly-trending faults, and have a close association with graphitic rocks. These deposits may be up to 1000 meters long, 100 meters wide, and less than 20 meters thick. The ore pods consist of a high-grade uranium ore. The deposits are surrounded by extensive alteration halos of chlorite, cericite, illite, and tourmaline. The majority of these deposits straddle the edge of the Athabasca sandstone and exhibit varying degrees of geophysical responses and radiometric signatures.

The claim blocks held by United Carina Resources Corp. have many of the above geophysical characteristics and hence have good exploration potential for uranium.

To view further company updates, you can go to our website located at http://www.casavantmining.com.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995: The statements, other than the statements of historical facts, may be deemed to contain forward-looking statements with respect to events, the occurrence of which involves risks and uncertainties, including, without limitation, demand and competition for the Company's products and services, the availability to the Company of adequate financing to support its anticipated activities, the ability of the Company to generate cash flow from operations and the ability of the Company to manage its operations.



 


Posted by Doctoall on :
 
You are fast Winsum Thanks
 
Posted by cool1sh on :
 
I had 7M buy order that I placed a long time ago, it filled couple of days back. I wan't happy for not cancelling it.
I placed a sell order at 0003 for 5M, it filled a minute ago.

SELL filled at ASK price??

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Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GatorMan:
UCAD shares showed up in my ETRADE account. Ratio was 1 per 111,111. I was told yesterday it was supposed to be 1 for 103,950. It looks like I'll be calling ETRADE today.


I called ETRADE and they said they will have to look into why the ratio changed and get back to me. I DID find out, however, that when the restriction is listed and the shares become free trading there will be a $150 fee. She said this was because they have to research the stock using legal counsel to verify that the restriction no longer applies. Sounds like just another way to get money from the customer to me. I can't see how it would cost that much (times all the customers who have the stock) to insure the restriction is lifted.

Oh, and one more thing. If the 111,111 to 1 ratio holds that means 833 billion shares O/S. Somewhat over the last known A/S.
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Posted by tic_toc on :
 
we is radiOactive
 
Posted by legal1082 on :
 
Now, tell me this isn't the most under valued stock around! And the pps still wont move, watch! This is coming to a great big climax! I just learning this stock game, but business is business
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
I just wish they would make up their minds what business they are in.....cars, uranium, diamonds, next we will be prospecting for cow poop.....
Ed
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
I just wish they would make up their minds what business they are in.....cars, uranium, diamonds, next we will be prospecting for cow poop.....
Ed

They are a conglomerate in the making. They are in the acquisition business.


 


Posted by Esteban on :
 
FYI

Thank you for contacting us today regarding CMKX.

For CMKX, the spin off rate will be .00000962:1 for restricted shares of US Canadian Minerals Inc. The old rate was .0000155:1. The record date was 8-20-04. This means your CMKX buy trades needed to settle on or before 8-20 in order to receive the spin off shares. The payable date was moved from 9-24 to 10-6.

Restricted means that the shares are not registered with the SEC for trading availability. Once the shares are registered, a valid symbol would appear. Ameritrade does not know the anticipated time frame or details pertaining to the restriction at this time.

If you have any questions and wish to contact us via e-mail, please log into your account and send your inquiry using the "E-mail Us" link which can be found in the navigation bar at the left side of any page within your account. Select the Reorganization & Dividend Inquiry Form.

Joy Busse
Reorganization and Safekeeping, Ameritrade
Division of Ameritrade, Inc
 


Posted by DiQuiRiesco on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
They are a conglomerate in the making. They are in the acquisition business.


The only thing they are aquiring is tons of BS.

 


Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GatorMan:
I called ETRADE and they said they will have to look into why the ratio changed and get back to me. I DID find out, however, that when the restriction is listed and the shares become free trading there will be a $150 fee. She said this was because they have to research the stock using legal counsel to verify that the restriction no longer applies. Sounds like just another way to get money from the customer to me. I can't see how it would cost that much (times all the customers who have the stock) to insure the restriction is lifted.

Oh, and one more thing. If the 111,111 to 1 ratio holds that means 833 billion shares O/S. Somewhat over the last known A/S.


Got a reply from ETRADE. Not happy with it but what can you do?

"The UCAD dividend was paid at a rate of 0.000009:1. This means you received 0.000009 of a UCAD shares for each share of CMKX held. The 99 shares you received is correct.

"This is an updated rate received from DTC. The spin-off rate of 1:103950 that was provided by Bloomberg is incorrect."

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Posted by DiQuiRiesco on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GatorMan:
Got a reply from ETRADE. Not happy with it but what can you do?

"The UCAD dividend was paid at a rate of 0.000009:1. This means you received 0.000009 of a UCAD shares for each share of CMKX held. The 99 shares you received is correct.

"This is an updated rate received from DTC. The spin-off rate of 1:103950 that was provided by Bloomberg is incorrect."




Hillarious, somehow "I told you so" just doesn't cut it.


 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GatorMan:
Got a reply from ETRADE. Not happy with it but what can you do?

"The UCAD dividend was paid at a rate of 0.000009:1. This means you received 0.000009 of a UCAD shares for each share of CMKX held. The 99 shares you received is correct.

"This is an updated rate received from DTC. The spin-off rate of 1:103950 that was provided by Bloomberg is incorrect."


Ameritrade's rate was .000000962:1.

That's an entire decimal difference.

?????

 


Posted by DeadSurf on :
 
i have ameritrade...my rate was the 0.00000962:1

i had the 5 0's not 6 0's


quote:
Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
Ameritrade's rate was .000000962:1.

That's an entire decimal difference.

?????



 


Posted by WinsumLosesum on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DeadSurf:
i have ameritrade...my rate was the 0.00000962:1

i had the 5 0's not 6 0's



Oh, right. Ameritrade actually put an extra zero in their email, but doing the math confirms five zeros. Thanks.
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
"next we will be prospecting for cow poop....."

Hey there is a lot of money to be made in selling magical mushrooms!

Enjoy the Earth, don't eat the apples... Remember that.

 


Posted by will on :
 
OK, trading hard at .0002. Not to worry it's the shake before the "squeeze".
Where are the squeeze proponents with their explanation?
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Methinks something is rotten in the state of Denmark. How can CMKX trade BILLIONS of shares every day, and the price does not move?
 
Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 

if cmkx get`s 50% of uca
i`m shure there is another partner in the other 50%
who anybody????

p.s.
i used to laugh when people said they are going to find uranium.
the uranium rumor was no joke!


 


Posted by will on :
 
Well, with 780B+ O/S, think about it. If the volume is 20B, which is 2.5% of the O/S, do you really think that's enough to increase the PPS.
Yesterday noah led us to believe that the short squeeze has begun. Following his logic we should have seen an increase, not a decrease in PPS.
Just too many shares O/S.

quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Methinks something is rotten in the state of Denmark. How can CMKX trade BILLIONS of shares every day, and the price does not move?


 


Posted by DiQuiRiesco on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
OK, trading hard at .0002. Not to worry it's the shake before the "squeeze".
Where are the squeeze proponents with their explanation?

Hiding for good reason.

 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
gator...they should fix that because its not the correct pay rate. maybe they didn't get enough shares & just divided what they had by the number of cmkx shares they held in the street account. i'm not a big believer in cmkx being naked shorted but it is possible and this is the way it would be proved
 
Posted by will on :
 
NO! They left because the thread was hijacked. Don't try to tell me that they left becuase if there wasn't a "squeze of the century", they wouldn't be able to defend it or admit being wrong. They are much better than that. rightious, upstanding, people that would admit there isn't any squeeze, and people should not buy in hopes of one coming about.

quote:
Originally posted by DiQuiRiesco:
Hiding for good reason.


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
the uranium was bought into not found UCA bought that claim a month ago. it is not part of the 1.9 million acres. its in a differant part of canada
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
gator...i'd be on the phone with e-trade. every other brokers split is .00000962. e-trade can not change it
 
Posted by JBCak47 on :
 

Funny all those bashers who said Uranium 'could not' be involved were wrong...

I wonder what else Bashers & Co. have been wrong about...

Hmmmm...

Again, some people are entering month three and half camped out on this board...

---V E R Y P A T H E T I C---

DiQueroass is a prime example...

Hey , where is 'La Fem'? I haven't seen him lately... Maybe he lost his breath somewhere! HA HA!


 


Posted by slpj1960 on :
 
To all that are trying to save us poor investors. At just todays rate on UCAD, my dividends are worth more than what I have invested in CMKX, and there are more to come. I know, let me save you all the trouble, "these are restricted and lets see what they are worth later on". Well just go ahead and send me all of your restricted dividends, I'll take them for you.
 
Posted by tic_toc on :
 
Well I'm a sucker 0002. the way I figure it must be good for at least 50% next week.
 
Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
slpj1960

Lol, Congrats! The Bashers here on this board are desperate...

Hey look, an O2 tank rolling down my street.. It say's Property of 'Le Fem'.


 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
tic_toc at .0002 you can't beat that, well you can, at .0001
 
Posted by slpj1960 on :
 
Go JB, tell them like it is. I like your style and you crack me up with that left jab of yours. Keep up the good work.
 
Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
first I never saw a volume of 20 billion
for cmkx
as we all know wherever you look you will see a diferrent volume (yahoo,ameritrade even on the streamer, website...etc

and who would be selling the day before the dividend.
where did the MMs get the shares from they were selling.
out of a hat?
are MMs in their birthday suit.
i would say most likely.

the authorized shares are supposed to be 800 b.
(i didn`t do my research and i just believe it)
and then people just came up with 784 b.O/S after doing some simplefied calculation.

there is no proof of this!

and we don`t know why the a/s are 800 b.
if true i don`t think to dilute
it would not make sense,if it keeps pps
down.

think about it!!!!!!!!!!!


 


Posted by XchangeMODE on :
 
p.s.
here is the answer there are more than 500 billion shares in peoples account
they had to raise the authorised shares

they are counting as we speek

time is ticking!!!
 


Posted by DiQuiRiesco on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
NO! They left because the thread was hijacked. Don't try to tell me that they left becuase if there wasn't a "squeze of the century", they wouldn't be able to defend it or admit being wrong. They are much better than that. rightious, upstanding, people that would admit there isn't any squeeze, and people should not buy in hopes of one coming about.


God ****** paid bashers have ruined any hopes of this company being a sucsess. Is there any sancuary from their evil deeds?

 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
georgeburns
God of Diamonds


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CASH DIVIDEND (simple) now in yellow!
« Thread started on: Oct 7th, 2004, 6:45pm »

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This is a very simple operation. A simple way to get a cash dividend.

This was originally posted before the UCAD and GEMM runs. At the recommendation of Braindamage, I will update it as events unfold. I believe this theory has partially been verified by the runs of UCAD and GEMM. I will put updates to the following in yellow.

The following has so far been proven by FACTUAL information.(Volume).

Roger Glenn’s plan is incredible. It is benefiting our friends, UCAD and GEMM, and will benefit all CMKX shareholders at the end. It is all explained below. I am sticking with this plan completely. I am 99.9% positive that this is how it will unfold.

Have a good night. New is in YELLOW.


Could it be this simple?

08/20/2004 Record date for UCAD
Broker-dealer/market maker options.

A. Cover all shares in their account tagged short and later receive restricted UCAD shares to distribute legitimately.
B. Not cover all shares in their account tagged short and be responsible for the dividend themselves.
C. Not deliver at all. Investigated by SEC, fined, possibly barred from trading.

Option A. (Painful) Causes Broker-dealer/market maker to run up CMKX on a short squeeze. Increases the price of all CMKX tagged short in their account. Cost per million CMKX tagged short is 300 dollars if price doesn’t move on a short squeeze.

Option B. (Less painful) Take the hit on all the UCAD shares they have to distribute themselves. Either buy them open market or naked short them into your account. They are responsible if you sell them. Cost per million CMKX tagged short is 50 dollars. (10 UCAD per million CMKX with the round-up multiplied by a 5 dollar price per share) Or put fake, virtual, restricted, fraudulent shares into your account.

Option A. 300 dollars (variable depending CMKX short squeeze)

Option B. 50 dollars (variable depending on UCAD price per share)

It is very apparent to me that they chose option B. Furthermore, if you look at the volume of UCAD prior and after the announcement of the record date for the UCAD dividend… it seems some of the MMs were smart and decided to cover the dividend in a quieter fashion earlier. I have just realized this. What was nice to see was the procrastination of the MMs. This is causing a huge gain on the price of UCAD. It is also costing them more.

10 shares at 11 dollars is 110 dollars. This is still cheaper than a short squeeze on CMKX. Many people have not received their shares in their online account. I have received a marker for my shares in my online account. My broker has confirmed the shares are still not there. They are awaiting them from the transfer agent.

I still believe some may receive restricted shares and some may receive free trading shares. (Unless the market maker’s and broker/dealers have a way to attach the restricted legend to a free trading share. I have looked for this in the NASD and SEC rules and found nothing on it. Any help would be appreciated in that area.)

Currently… based on the volume of UCAD… it looks like we have a naked short position of over 200 billion on CMKX. http://www.stockwatch.com/swnet/utilit/utilit_snapsh_result.aspx?action=go&symbol=UCADion=U&snapshot=SX

The math is pretty simple. You just look at the average daily volume before the run and subtract that from the days of the run. That tells you how many shares they needed to obtain. If they needed 7.5 million shares, that would mean the naked short of CMKX is double of the actual shares of CMKX. It is not that bad… maybe. They still have a few more days to buy more.


08/31/2004 Record date for CIM
Broker-dealer/market maker options.

A. Cover all shares in their account tagged short and receive CIM shares later to distribute legitimately.
B. Not cover all shares in their account marked short and be responsible for the dividend themselves.

Option A. (Painful) Causes Broker-dealer/market maker to run up CMKX on a short squeeze. Increases the price of all CMKX tagged short in their account.

Option B. (Less painful) Take the hit on all the CIM shares they have to distribute themselves. They will have to either buy them open market (if CIM becomes public by then) or create fraudulent, fake, virtual, private shares and put them into your account.

This is leading me to speculate. I personally think CIM will be public before the payment date. I don’t know what shell D. Roger Glenn will use (maybe SGGM). This could lead to a CASH DIVIDEND for us. Whatever shell he uses, will need a share structure that he can modify. The OS of the new shell will have to be equal to the amount of the actual shares to be distributed and the naked shorts. Urban and Ron will own all shares beyond those distributed to us. The Market Makers and broker Dealers will be forced to buy these additional shares in the open market.

This will be awesome. Our company will have bought this shell for dirt cheap… perhaps .0001. They can sell based on the demand. The demand by the Market makers and broker dealers will be equal to whatever they need to cover their short on CMKX. THIS IS HUGE. The demand for shares is not like demand for other companies. The demand for these shares is absolute DEMAND. The market makers have no other way out except to purchase these shares at the MERCY OF ROGER GLENN. These can run up to huge profits for the company.

These profits can later be distributed to the shareholders as a CASH DIVIDEND. THAT’S RIGHT. CASH DIVIDEND. You have no idea the power of what is unfolding.



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Posted by bill1352 on :
 
UCA getting into the uranium & then bringing cmkx in is a good thing. and yes one day cmkx will be worth more then .0003 but since the law is that a companies value is based on what they mine and not how much is in the ground and the fact that 779 billion shares of cmkx got ucad dividends yesterday there is no way for this to be the stock play of a lifetime. it will probably be a very nice profit one day but thats it. i too wish that basic math didn't apply. now if they cut the CIM in half and spun cmkx into CIM with a float of 20 billion that is completely bought & held i'd be thrilled. i'd take 50,000 shares of this company with a 20 billion float as long as we had proof the o/s would not be raised. i could even see the pps getting close to $1 without getting to the mining stage but it will never happen with 779 billion shares.
 
Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
gator...i'd be on the phone with e-trade. every other brokers split is .00000962. e-trade can not change it

According to ETRADE the .000009 rate came from the DTC. The question is, who is correct, ETRADE or the other brokers? I'm hesitant to ask people who got the better rate to question their brokers because it may result in them having some shares taken back. It may get corrected anyway but I don't want to be responsible for starting it. Perhaps I could call CMKX and get it straight from them.

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Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
Why do I have to be left out - I did not get any divs in my TD waterhouse. There got to be some one here with waterhouse brokerage account?
 
Posted by GatorMan on :
 
Does anyone know who the DTC for CMKX is and have a toll free number for them? Or non-toll free if that is all that's available.

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Posted by bill1352 on :
 
gator...you wouldn't be starting anything only demanding your fair share. if you dont get the same split as everyone else e-trade is scr**ing you. if everyone else got it wrong then it will be changed anyway. you can point out that their split number means the o/s is more then the a/s which is illegal and they better fix whatever problem they have.
 
Posted by dwman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DiQuiRiesco:
The only thing they are aquiring is tons of BS.

Then why are you even here? Surely you are not interested in buying BS. You sure sell a lot of it though.


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
sure don't trading. i'd like to know all the differant split numbers brokers are using. ppl with mytrade will be waiting for them in the mail
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
great article on stock boards, bashers, pumpers, sounds like they have been following this thread...lol http://www.investing.wsj.com/tools-body4.html

 
Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
gator...you wouldn't be starting anything only demanding your fair share. if you dont get the same split as everyone else e-trade is scr**ing you. if everyone else got it wrong then it will be changed anyway. you can point out that their split number means the o/s is more then the a/s which is illegal and they better fix whatever problem they have.

bill, I appreciate what you are saying, and your concern. I think the problem is when it comes down to it, no matter what I demand they are going to take the DTC's word over mine and I will have just wasted a lot of my bosses time on the phone. I don't see it as a fight I can win by making demands. So, I've written CMKX to see if they can tell me what the ratio should be, and I'd like to contact the DTC myself. Now, if someone who got the better rate were willing to call their brokerage and ask where the rate they used came from, and if they are told the DTC and it's current information, I might be able to use that. But there IS something fishy going on with this.

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Posted by bill1352 on :
 
glad to call gator. my account is ameritrade. be back soon with an answer.
 
Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
glad to call gator. my account is ameritrade. be back soon with an answer.

thanks

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Posted by bill1352 on :
 
gator...ameritrade said normally the shares come straight from the t/a along with the split count. ameritrades split was 108,552.63 to 1 the guy said contacting ucad's t/a would be a good place to start. who they are i don't know. should be on one of their reports i'd guess.
 
Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
gator...ameritrade said normally the shares come straight from the t/a along with the split count. ameritrades split was 108,552.63 to 1 the guy said contacting ucad's t/a would be a good place to start. who they are i don't know. should be on one of their reports i'd guess.

Thanks. I wonder if the T/A and DTC are the same thing. I'll be they are. If the T/A is the same one they've had all along it's probably the one in Salt Lake City.

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Posted by bill1352 on :
 
t/a & DTC are 2 differant beasts. the t/a is a company working for companies the DTC is part of SEC sort of
 
Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
t/a & DTC are 2 differant beasts. the t/a is a company working for companies the DTC is part of SEC sort of

The T/A is 1st Global Stock Transfer LLC in Las Vegas. Long distance call so I'll have to wait until I get home. Hope they are still open. But since this is not the same as the DTC then it may not help.

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Posted by bill1352 on :
 
the t/a represents ucad. they are the ones that decide the split not the dtc or the broker. this is the whole idea of exposing a naked short which the dtc was supposed to be in on. if you got that same split others with e-trade did too and that could add up to a lot of shares in e-trades account or they may not have had enough to go around. ameritrade said every broker used the same number but rounded each account a bit to even out shares. no split shares

[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited October 08, 2004).]
 


Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
the t/a represents ucad. they are the ones that decide the split not the dtc or the broker. this is the whole idea of exposing a naked short which the dtc was supposed to be in on. if you got that same split others with e-trade did too and that could add up to a lot of shares in e-trades account or they may not have had enough to go around. ameritrade said every broker used the same number but rounded each account a bit to even out shares. no split shares

[This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited October 08, 2004).]


I'll try to take care of this when I get home in two and half hours.

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Posted by safeguard on :
 
Good today, huh! Hope it is anyway.
 
Posted by rivercity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GatorMan:
Does anyone know who the DTC for CMKX is and have a toll free number for them? Or non-toll free if that is all that's available.



gator, here's the # for 1st global stock transfer llc: 1-702-656-4919, if you have trouble getting info from them then try ucad's t/a : 1-702-361-3033. good luck getting any info from these people...rivercity

 
Posted by safeguard on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:

Enjoy the Earth, don't eat the apples... Remember that.

Not apples...it was fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil...that is what made us accountable.


 


Posted by STAR GAZER on :
 
ed19363
Member posted October 08, 2004 10:37
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I just wish they would make up their minds what business they are in.....cars, uranium, diamonds, next we will be prospecting for cow poop.....
Hey, don't poo poo poop. If I remember correctly, some companies are collecting cow and pig poop in order to obtrain the methane I understand that they are all fired up about it.
 
Posted by sdrobert on :
 
but if they were coconuts do you think they would have still tried to bight it
 
Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
coconuts??? lol
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
ameritrade said $250 only if you sell the shares. also that charge may not apply. it depends on how the restriction is lifted which of course was supposed to be told to us in a pr from cmkx. remember the pr announcing it information to be announced at a later date. ppl with mytrack will be getting their ucad shares in the mail unless mytrack has change their policy. they told me that they do not hold any restricted shares at all. when the restriction is lifted they will need to be mailed to ucad's t/a for exchange to unrestricted shares and then sent back to your account. you can do this with ameritrade also if that charge does end up applying but it will cost $40

I use MyTrack and my UCAD shares show up as UCADZZ.
 


Posted by STAR GAZER on :
 
Nobody has done a followup on our pending uranium property. First of all, a property that contains 0.15% u3o8 is considered to be a high quality uranium find, and our property has 1% u3o8 which is almost 700% richer in uranium. Also, the price of uranium has been steadily climbing and is up over 100% in the last year. Because nuclear generators are pollution free, more and more countries are now building nuclear generators. There used to be tons of stock piled processed uranium ore available and that is now virtually gone. Therefore, many commentators are saying that the price of uranium is only at the beginning of its upward price movement. CMKX at .0002? You've got to be kidding. Even with +700 billion shares, that is a rediculous price. Luckly, it may stay down there for quite a while in case any body wants to try buying at that price. It is going to take quite awhile to explore the properties. However, if high grade uranium deposits are found, the price of CMKX is going to start edging up, especially as updates of drill results are released. And don't forget that we have what is considered THE BEST DIAMOND PROPERTY IN THE WORLD. It is only a matter of time before we announce a BIG diamond find. AND WE HAVE A MAJOR LAW FIRM on our side and they are specialists in arranging for firms to obtain listing on a major stock exchange. And finally, don't forget that this part of Canada is famous for its gold deposits, plus now people are also discovering platinum in the area. I've always said that this is a long term stock hold, not a quick trade. United Carnia Resources has 14.16 million shares. In February it was .14 (Canadian) and has been steadily climbing. Today it closed at .41, another up day. Stockhouse grades stocks using a group of 30 technical indicators and they grade it as bullish. Their web site is: www.unitedcarnia.com
 
Posted by STAR GAZER on :
 
Oh, and don't tell anyone, but Stockhouse rates CMKX as bearish. Shows what they know.
 
Posted by cool1sh on :
 
Any1 has today's volume?
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
trading....they must have changed policy then at mytrack. when i first heard about ameritrades $250 charge they were one of the brokers i considered changing to. i was told they would be mailed to me and i'd be charged $25 which seemed a lot better then $250 but they said there might be a t/a charge add that to a 1 mil limit on penny trades i never switched.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i'll never understand ppl. i was talking to a broker at an investment firm in birmingham, michigan, a very rich city outside of detroit ( the Lakers stayed right across from the office during the champoinships) while giving them a quote for some work, i brought up cmkx, he was a younger guy, mid-30's thought he might know about boards and thus heard of cmkx. he did & had and he says the same thing i do. cmkx has very good potential even with the car thing but 779 billion o/s kills it no matter what they find in the ground. he said he owns a few million shares and figures to one day make a nice profit on the $1,000 or so he has in it but the talk of getting rich is crazy. he agrees about the market & the naked short problem but cmkx has diluted the stock so much it doesn't matter. with this many shares on the market covering isn't too hard to do. he does believe we will make a very nice profit on our investment but that he wasn't looking at new houses.
 
Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rivercity:
gator, here's the # for 1st global stock transfer llc: 1-702-656-4919, if you have trouble getting info from them then try ucad's t/a : 1-702-361-3033. good luck getting any info from these people...rivercity

Thanks. I've gotten to the bottom of the issue.

First of all, ETRADER's rejoyce! They DID use the wrong ratio and it should be corrected by Monday morning.

I called UCAD's T/A and they referred me to CMKX's T/A, 1st Global. They told me the correct ratio is .00000962. I called ETRADE ready to do battle and they informed me the issue had already been resolved and accounts will be corrected. They said they did not go out enough decimal places! So all is well, at least for now.

Thanks for those who helped with this issue!

By the way, all parties were very friendly and helpful. I tried to UCAD share structure but they said their computers were being upgraded and they didn't have access right now. I knew better than to ask for CMKX share structure

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~,-,-< GatorMan

[This message has been edited by GatorMan (edited October 08, 2004).]
 


Posted by SmokingUSA on :
 
cool1sh

Volume 81,965,049 - according to Small Cap center
81,965,049 according to http://quotes.freerealtime.com/rt/frt/M?IM=quotes&symbol=CMKX&type=Quote
 


Posted by cool1sh on :
 
Thank you, but thats not accurate. Its the number after reset.

quote:
Originally posted by SmokingUSA:
cool1sh

Volume 81,965,049 - according to Small Cap center
81,965,049 according to http://quotes.freerealtime.com/rt/frt/M?IM=quotes&symbol=CMKX&type=Quote



 


Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Did I hear 800 BILLION????
or is it Million??
Either way, somebody tell me the date of the reverse split !!!!
Ed
 
Posted by SmokingUSA on :
 

[This message has been edited by SmokingUSA (edited October 08, 2004).]
 


Posted by STAR GAZER on :
 
Here is a post from another board. They also think that are teaming up with United Carina is a real event and shows that we are in the big leagues. Posted by: zeninvestor32
In reply to: None Date:10/8/2004 5:17:37 PM
Post #of 16712

WHAT I BELIEVE THEY WILL TRY TO DO

I believe the MMs will do their very best to keep the price suppressed even right through a filing. I think they continue to labor under the misimpression that people will sell en masse the longer they can keep the lid on the price, ESPECIALLY through the periods of high expectations (like the first dividend). They will do this for as long as they can. This may sound depressing but that is their tactic. So how will we win? I don't know. I feel Roger's trap will have a trigger. A straw to break the camel's back. That final jenga piece that causes the whole tower to collapse. Until then, everything will seem as is (and very painful) until then. What stinks is that I have my money in cmkx and not ucad, gemm, sggm and other related cmkx stocks. I'm banking that the returns on cmkx will far outpace those of the others. In the mean time, I do wish I had invested in the peripheral cmkx stocks. LOL Oh well.

Believe it or not, today's news was one of the most significant pieces of news we've had thus far. I consider Rick Kusmirski a big player. He is in bed with the Lundins through his JNR joint ventures. He is one of the foremost uranium guys. I believe today's news closely aligning cmkx with him was SIGNIFICANT. This was the first real DIRECT sign to me that we are aligned with big players and big money. To date, there has been a lot of circumstantial evidence. I again reiterate. Carina did NOT need us as a partner. They have JNR. They have IUC. They have Cameco. They have CONSIDERABLE other options to finance these claims. The fact that they chose cmkx is significant to me. Rick is a bigwig. This was an important deal to us ... and to him imo. A deal like this does not happen with a big player unless there are DEFINITE reasons.

I'm pleased (despite the pps). Very pleased. This was a big sign of things to come to me.




 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
and scamming is scamming.

look at the timing of the payout of the dividend. that was a carrot to dangle in front of you to keep you holding till they slowly crept the PPS back down. how many held to get the extra shares only to find out that now you are really red.

we touched on .0001 today and guess what that is where we will be for a long long time to come.

Uranium lol you know there probably isn't enough uranium in the entire county to move this price back to .0004.

this is the largest scam of the century.

I can see Casavant laughing his fool head off right now with uncle melvie saying I told you we where going to get this money.

speaking of dividends has anyone seen these dividends in their accounts? they where supposed to be paid out on the 6th

under valued i don't think so over diluted, you bet. water isn't this diluted.

quote:
Originally posted by legal1082:
Now, tell me this isn't the most under valued stock around! And the pps still wont move, watch! This is coming to a great big climax! I just learning this stock game, but business is business

[This message has been edited by penny-trader (edited October 08, 2004).]
 


Posted by sdrobert on :
 
you kind of have some money in them dont forget your divies
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
noah wrote:
"MM's given a few days to a couple of weeks to cover. NSS trading comes to a screeching halt and the market for CMKX comes back to a normal flow as it did today, and the pps begins rising, as it did today. Sound like the beginings of a squeeze. Only time will tell now."

I had to read that a couple times. It looks as if I am being told that the "squeeze" has begun. The dividend is paid, been paid, why would the squeeze ocurr afterwards? I think I need this explained better than it was.


Will,

Sorry I can't be in here as frequently as I used to be. but rest assured that I am not hiding from anyone here.

On my last personal post, I was in a hurry and probably didn't explain myself as well as I should have, but I've got some time now, so I will try to break it down.

All of this is just my OPINION and should not be misconstrued as anything else. It is based on things I have learned from DD as well as other boards and posters. So with disclaimers out of the way, let me tell you what I think has happened, and is still happening.

The "squeeze" took place already, as Roger Glenn approached his friends in the SEC and showed them that Urban and Co. were holding all of the AS/OS this summer. Urban had already purchased back everything that he had previously sold. Once the issue of NS was proven to the SEC, a plan was devised to negotiate a settlement with the MM's, through the DTC rather than cause a scandal, and financial problems in the market.

At the July meeting in Sask, the plan was made operative with Rendall Williams agreeing to issue restricted shares of his company to Urban, to be used as a dividend for CMKX shareholders.

UC and Roger issued a PR announcing the distribution of that dividend. It was decided that "every" shareholder would receive the dividend, even the naked shareholders. This was clarified in the subsequent PR, after all MM's were on board the agreement. CMKX could not issue dividends to more shares than were authorized, so the AS was increased to 800 billion to cover the 779+ billion and the 21 billion retired.

When the share audit was completed, and the float plus NS were calculated, CMKX and UCAD's side of the agreement was to issue dividends to each of those shareholders, not to include Urban's or company held shares. That total was determined to be 779,625,779,225. Remember, that this was the total of float and NS combined.

The ratio was determined and the DTC was notified to begin the distribution, even without the shares having yet arrived by snail mail. Some brokerages went ahead with the distribution, while others waited for the actual hard copies to arrive. This after they got burnt last Friday on the distribution.

Part two of that agreement for UCAD to "loan" the divys to the DTC for the distribution, was that the NS MM's would purchase restricted dividends from Rendall and UCAD over the next few days to two weeks. Rendall was in a position to demand his own price for the shares, and obviously did. And that pps is being reflected in the pps increases on the open market. That was part one of the squeeze.

In 10 days, we are to receive a dividend in CIM. For those divys, shares of CMKX must be held through distribution date in order to qualify. If the MM's do not purchase back their NS from shareholders between now and then, they will have to go to UC to buy them, since they are private. They can't buy them on the open market, or NS them. And this time, the distribution will be for all shares, OS, float and naked shares. That is why we are looking at 1.5 trillion. Once again, they will be at the mercy of the company if they don't get out of their NS positions. Which option do you think they will chose? Deal with us, or deal with the guy they tried to destroy. \

I don't think they will be playing around anymore, they know the game is up and they are being watched by the SEC.

So what was going on today? Hedge funds and off shore "investors" have been warned to "get right". Some of the activity has been these "types" of people getting "light". The rest was "churning" to try and convince some weak hands to divest. Remember, not everyone reads the boards. They see their pps dropping, and they panic and sell.

After the shake is over, we will see a mild run on the stock. But we will not see the major run, until we are fully reporting. Roger and Urban do not want this stock to see its "surge" while on the Pinks. So I expect to see our status report coming out very soon, with a move to the OTC BB, before moving on to NASDAQ or AMEX. That will take a complete new set of maneuvers which will probably come very close to what GeorgeBurns anticipates in the repost that I made above. Expect CIM and SGGM to come in to play then, as we move up to a higher board.

Once we have settled in to one of the boards, we will see valuation of our holdings and income flow, from our various holdings of JV's as well. But we will also see the results of the drilling, which IMO, is in the "teens", with a high percentage diamondiferous. I think we will also see the results of the Carolyn sample that has been "locked" away, come out with some "eye-popping" diamonds, that they have known about since drilling. The first sample, that bore micro diamonds, was only released because of the PR problems with our JV's back in the early summer.

When these sites, are drilled, they start with one hole in the middle of the drill target. After that, they drill holes some distance away, at 3,6,9 and 12 o'clock from the "pilot" hole. There was only the one hole drilled at Carolyn, indicating that they found all that they needed in the pilot hole. Since then we have been drilling far more holes than have been PR'd or reported by Melvin, all with excellent results.

This information was not going to be released until we were out of the clutches of the MM's, and on a board where institutional and deep pocket investors could invest in CMKX.

We are at that point, now. I won't be selling out cheaply here, as I think we will be able to pretty much name our own price. On the long term, I will be holding shares for my grandchildren to see the results of the "empire" that Urban is building in Sask and Nevada, in London and Antwerp, in S.A. and China.

Remember, this is all IMO. OK go ahead and pick it apart.

Thanks to DR D for some of this information. That guy has a mind like a steel trap.


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
There you go Will, a nice, simple, concise answer. Things like this happen all the time in the markets, day in and day out. What don't you understand? Are you stupid or something? Just let the master plan unfold!

[This message has been edited by Upside (edited October 08, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
If I had 5 apples and gave you 2, and noah had 4 oranges and ate 1, and gave me 1 and you 1, and you 7 bananas and turned 4 of them into apples and gave me 1, how many shares would of UCAD would the SEC and DTC give the MM's to cover the secret deal with United Fruit Workers of America?

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
There you go Will, a nice, simple, concise answer. Things like this happen all the time in the markets, day in and day out. What don't you understand?


 


Posted by Ric on :
 
Greatest post I have read.

quote:
Originally posted by will:
If I had 5 apples and gave you 2, and noah had 4 oranges and ate 1, and gave me 1 and you 1, and you 7 bananas and turned 4 of them into apples and gave me 1, how many shares would of UCAD would the SEC and DTC give the MM's to cover the secret deal with United Fruit Workers of America?



 


Posted by will on :
 
Could it really have had happened like that?
I doubt that the SEC, DTC, would engage in deal making with CMKX, UCAD, and MM's.
It's just another a conspiracy theory.

[This message has been edited by will (edited October 08, 2004).]
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
noahltl, I know you put all kinds of disclaimers on that post, but what in hell have you been smoking? I don't know where to start!! WOW! Now that IS spin. LOL
Bottom line is today's closing pps. What does that tell you? Now it's flirting with .0001.
 
Posted by GatorMan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
If I had 5 apples and gave you 2, and noah had 4 oranges and ate 1, and gave me 1 and you 1, and you 7 bananas and turned 4 of them into apples and gave me 1, how many shares would of UCAD would the SEC and DTC give the MM's to cover the secret deal with United Fruit Workers of America?


42?

------------------
~,-,-< GatorMan
 


Posted by slpj1960 on :
 
What I do understand, is what my trading account shows. My UCAD dividends as of today, are worth more than what I have invested here, with more dividends to come. Oh, I know, "what will they be worth later on". I'll save you the trouble with a different opinion. A whole lot more.
 
Posted by will on :
 
LOL! Good one GatorMan. WRONG!

quote:
Originally posted by GatorMan:
42?



 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Will - - LMAO twice!
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
so noah and i'm not trying to fight i do believe we will make a nice profit, UC said ok i'll dilute my companies share structure, i'll stick it to all my faithful shareholders by the count of 300 billion shares (800 billion a/s minus 21 billion is the same as 500 billion minus 21 billion) even though i have a stupidly high o/s of 479 billion just so the mm's can get away with stealing from small investors. he thinks if its naked shorted and it does get covered we will be ok with a 60% smaller cover? 300 billion is 60% of 500 billion. sorry i'm not ok with that. if the mm's were short 300 billion shares they get held accountable for 300 billion shares not stick it to me or dilute my stock by 60%. there wont be any run on the pps. it will bounce around right where it has. CIM was cut and cmkx will somedayy have to come clean about that. what your saying is that mm's have to cover 100% of the a/s in 2 weeks. I'm not selling are you? they can't distibute a dividend to more shares then the a/s thus either it isnt short or 800 billion shares will not get the CIM dividend or better yet UC will sell the mm's 800 billion CIM shares and he can have 2 companies with a 800 billion o/s
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Will, you're my friend but sometimes I just don't understand you. The plain truth is staring you right in the face and you won't accept it. We are in the midst of the squeeze which is part 1 of the master plan. We probably only have 47 steps and 34 years to go until it all unfolds. Again, are you just ignorant? Urban and Roger only have our futures at heart, just lay back and let them take care of us.
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
From IHUB

Posted by: mudd43
In reply to: None Date:10/8/2004 10:49:00 PM
Post #of 104325

MM's raided! Dave Patch of www invetigatethesec com mentioned this as well...
By: shocked54
08 Oct 2004, 04:46 PM EDT
Msg. 59030 of 59049
Jump to msg. #
IT's about time!!! Knight Securities, Wien Securities, and Schwab Cap have been raided today and yesterday by FBI and Dept of Justice. Still checking about potential arrests. Pressure is on with Jan 5th coming!! Nothing like taking over 1 year for that to happen.

More to come, thanks to the myth of illegal short selling

 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Could it really have had happened like that?
I doubt that the SEC, DTC, would engage in deal making with CMKX, UCAD, and MM's.
It's just another a conspiracy theory.

Well I think there is conspiracy on CMKX.
They were going up on no news,but when they released this at 9:30 am http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/041008/85155_1.html they got this chit here http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=CMKX.PK&t=1d almost seems they would have been better off not releasing anything.
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well that is good news if true noah....they do naked short it has been proven
 
Posted by will on :
 
Squeeze this!
God! I've been waiting to say that.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Will, you're my friend but sometimes I just don't understand you. The plain truth is staring you right in the face and you won't accept it. We are in the midst of the squeeze which is part 1 of the master plan. We probably only have 47 steps and 34 years to go until it all unfolds. Again, are you just ignorant? Urban and Roger only have our futures at heart, just lay back and let them take care of us.


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
it went down because the o/s is now proven to be 779 billion shares
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
so noah and i'm not trying to fight i do believe we will make a nice profit, UC said ok i'll dilute my companies share structure, i'll stick it to all my faithful shareholders by the count of 300 billion shares (800 billion a/s minus 21 billion is the same as 500 billion minus 21 billion) even though i have a stupidly high o/s of 479 billion just so the mm's can get away with stealing from small investors. he thinks if its naked shorted and it does get covered we will be ok with a 60% smaller cover? 300 billion is 60% of 500 billion. sorry i'm not ok with that. if the mm's were short 300 billion shares they get held accountable for 300 billion shares not stick it to me or dilute my stock by 60%. there wont be any run on the pps. it will bounce around right where it has. CIM was cut and cmkx will somedayy have to come clean about that. what your saying is that mm's have to cover 100% of the a/s in 2 weeks. I'm not selling are you? they can't distibute a dividend to more shares then the a/s thus either it isnt short or 800 billion shares will not get the CIM dividend or better yet UC will sell the mm's 800 billion CIM shares and he can have 2 companies with a 800 billion o/s

Bill read the post again. He didn't dilute with the extra 300 billion shares of CMKX AS. He had to raise the AS because it would be illegal to issue dividends to more shares than there were legal.

 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Will:
quote:
Squeeze this!

You know, sometimes the initial "squeeze" doesn't result in an eruption. Sometimes it takes time, manipulation, further squeezing and what not to achieve the end result. Understand?

 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Hey, Will, correct me if I am wrong as follows:

Will ends with 4 apples and 1 orange

Noah ends with 1 orange uneaten and one in the belly.

The "you" mentioned ends up with 3 bananas and 3 apples.

The MMs get "0".
 


Posted by will on :
 
Now that I understand. LOL

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by Will:
You know, sometimes the initial "squeeze" doesn't result in an eruption. Sometimes it takes time, manipulation, further squeezing and what not to achieve the end result. Understand?


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Originally posted by Will:
quote:
Now that I understand. LOL

Ok then, same thing. Just relax and let it happen.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
From IHUB

Posted by: mudd43
In reply to: None Date:10/8/2004 10:49:00 PM
Post #of 104325

MM's raided! Dave Patch of www invetigatethesec com mentioned this as well...
By: shocked54
08 Oct 2004, 04:46 PM EDT
Msg. 59030 of 59049
Jump to msg. #
IT's about time!!! Knight Securities, Wien Securities, and Schwab Cap have been raided today and yesterday by FBI and Dept of Justice. Still checking about potential arrests. Pressure is on with Jan 5th coming!! Nothing like taking over 1 year for that to happen.

More to come, thanks to the myth of illegal short selling


Hope none of the bashers have any pay stubs laying around these places. LOL

 


Posted by will on :
 
Right, and no one is short anything.
Look, no one is denying that NSS ocurrs. It probably ocurred with CMKX to some extent. The wild trillion share NSS, and the double NSS theories, just didn't exist. You won't see the evidence of "the squeeze of the century". When you the opposite emperical evidence of squeeze happen, decrease in PPS, how do you site that as a beginning of a squeeze. I thought a squeeze would increase the PPS. You cannot hold to a premise when reality shows you wrong. You cannot change the truth to suit your arguement. The price went down! That means NO squeeze, not that one is coming. The record date was 8/20, paid date 10/6. The UCAD chickens are in the henhouse, it's over, no squeeze happened.
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Hey, Will, correct me if I am wrong as follows:

Will ends with 4 apples and 1 orange

Noah ends with 1 orange uneaten and one in the belly.

The "you" mentioned ends up with 3 bananas and 3 apples.

The MMs get "0".



 


Posted by glassman on :
 
i started to read a post here, but i had to stop when i read someone saying that nuclear power plants are POLLUTION FREE...no wonder they think CMKX is such a good stock...sorry, but......
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Ok Will my basher friend, if the squeeze isn't going to happen and we now have untradable UCAD shares with untradable CIM/CMI shares coming and GEMM shares worth anywhere from 2 to 15 dollars per million CMKX shares on the way, where does that leave us? Hoping for a big diamond find? Please say it ain't so Joe!
 
Posted by Bigrod40 on :
 
Enough of all this BS about joint ventures and O/S, what a bunch of CRAP.
Give me the CORE results of the Carolyn Pipe from 6 months ago.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
From IHUB

Posted by: mudd43
In reply to: None Date:10/8/2004 10:49:00 PM
Post #of 104325

MM's raided! Dave Patch of www invetigatethesec com mentioned this as well...
By: shocked54
08 Oct 2004, 04:46 PM EDT
Msg. 59030 of 59049
Jump to msg. #
IT's about time!!! Knight Securities, Wien Securities, and Schwab Cap have been raided today and yesterday by FBI and Dept of Justice. Still checking about potential arrests. Pressure is on with Jan 5th coming!! Nothing like taking over 1 year for that to happen.

More to come, thanks to the myth of illegal short selling


i hope so, but Noah, i think i'll take the advice you gave earlier...i'll beleive it when i see an official PR...LOL
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by glassman:
quote:
i started to read a post here, but i had to stop when i read someone saying that nuclear power plants are POLLUTION FREE...no wonder they think CMKX is such a good stock...sorry, but......

Clean energy for our future glass!
 


Posted by osubucks30 on :
 
Now the only question is when will they raise the authorized shares to 1 TRILLION?
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ok, that is the way you worded it, sorry...so UC just diluted my dividend by 60% thanks UC oh ya he lied to the SEC to do this, glad he has a lawyer. sorry about the sarcasism but please the SEC will not get involved in a cover up yes they are not the most honest group in town. with all the lawsuits over this problem you think they would give anyone the smoking gun? they do that and they are targeted for blackmail also i thought Roger was so ethical wanted straight up play by the SEC wouldn't stand for underhanded backdoor dealings. i'm not saying cmkx is a scam i'm saying this grand slam stock is going to turn out to be a double at best
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
bill,
Does that mean .0004 is all we can hope for?
 
Posted by Bigrod40 on :
 
Well I guess Im starting to smell SCAM. Not very professional on Rodger Glenn's part to be involved in this!!!!!!!!!
A huge New York law firm has alot to lose with this POS.

[This message has been edited by Bigrod40 (edited October 09, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
Most probably it will leave us at .0001. As far as the UCAD dividend is concerned, can't say. When will the restriction be lifted? No one knows. The CIM dividend is messed up like Hogan's goat. The GEMM will cost you more to sell then they're worth. A diamond find? Seems the faithful believe CMKX have found them in great quantity. Have they? I doubt it.
The thing I am counting on is that the faithful are just crazy enough, and can bring in more faithful, and this thing can run again.
Like I said though, at .0001 I'm stuck for $250, pretty cheap late night entertainment for 4 months+, and with no sign of the faithful giving up it will go on for a year or more. So, for $250 I get to see this unfold/collapse, whichever way it goes.
I don't think the faithful are right, but I do think we might have some value. When? I have no idea.
The ones I feel sorry for are those that have $15,000, $25,000 + in this mess. They were betting heavy on an October surprise. I just hope the surprise isn't .0001 until October of 2005.
I thought I saw a post last weekend that the poster expected this week to be a good week, and was buying or had bought more at .0003, already having over 50M shares. I know I saw the same person post that they expected that all the things that convinced them to buy would be validated by the end of October.
So, let's not give up now. Let's not hold anyone to 8/20, 9/24, 10/06, let's wait to the end of October for .51 buy out.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Ok Will my basher friend, if the squeeze isn't going to happen and we now have untradable UCAD shares with untradable CIM/CMI shares coming and GEMM shares worth anywhere from 2 to 15 dollars per million CMKX shares on the way, where does that leave us? Hoping for a big diamond find? Please say it ain't so Joe!


 


Posted by RobinO on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bigrod40:
Give me the CORE results of the Carolyn Pipe from 6 months ago.

You'll never see that. Why? They never did one. All of you people who bought into this scam just paid for Urban's race cars. Consider yourself punk'd.

-R
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by will:
quote:
I thought I saw a post last weekend that the poster expected this week to be a good week, and was buying or had bought more at .0003, already having over 50M shares.

Who are you referring to?
 


Posted by will on :
 
I went back to find the post. I didn't find it yet. When I do I wil repost it for you.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by will:
Who are you referring to?


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Will:
quote:
I went back to find the post. I didn't find it yet. When I do I wil repost it for you.

Begin with a B.?
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Will:
quote:
I went back to find the post. I didn't find it yet. When I do I wil repost it for you.

End with a C.?
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Just might be able to help you with that one if that's the case!

 
Posted by will on :
 
Yep!

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Just might be able to help you with that one if that's the case!


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
I forget that persons name though. Can you help me out with that?
 
Posted by will on :
 
I'll find them and repost them, ok, pal.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
I forget that persons name though. Can you help me out with that?


 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by Will:
quote:
I'll find them and repost them, ok, pal.

Might not be the smartest thing to do now.
 


Posted by will on :
 
Well, it's after midnight, so I think the smartest thing to do right now is, go to bed.

 
Posted by dwman on :
 
The best assurance that this is not a scam is the fact of all of the new posters. Have you noticed how many new posters there are suddenly and none have anything good to say about cmkx?
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
New posters mean nothing. I have been on this stock since the days of CMKI, thru CMKM to CMKX. My first buy was at .03, and I continued to buy as the price dropped, finally averaging out at just north of .0001. I'm tired of waiting, and wading thru tons of BS about O/S. When is this company going to tell us what is really happening? Melvin is useless, UC is a mirage, still I hold 27M, hoping something positive will happen. All I've seen so far is bashers and pumpers who know absolutely NOTHING! Why dont you all STFU until REAL news comes out?
I wish us all good luck, but in the pit of my stomach, I see this stock as a white elephant.
 
Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
LOL
quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
The best assurance that this is not a scam is the fact of all of the new posters. Have you noticed how many new posters there are suddenly and none have anything good to say about cmkx?


 


Posted by RobinO on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
I have been on this stock since the days of CMKI, thru CMKM to CMKX. My first buy was at .03, and I continued to buy as the price dropped, finally averaging out at just north of .0001.

Whoa waitasec. People are supposed to be impressed by the fact that you sat through 3 symbol changes and have been 'averaging down' for a total loss of 30,000% ???? Wow I know whose advice I'll be taking from now on! Yes I'm a new poster in this thread but I've been reading it off and on from the beginning and find the attitude here completely shocking. The fact that anyone bought into this scam amazed me to begin with, but the fact that people are willing to take losses of 30,000% and STILL hang on is just amazing to me. Completely amazing.

quote:
I'm tired of waiting, and wading thru tons of BS about O/S. When is this company going to tell us what is really happening? Melvin is useless, UC is a mirage, still I hold 27M, hoping something positive will happen.

Hellooooo McFly! A non-reporting Nevada based corporation with 800B o/s looking for diamonds in Canada that releases nothing but BS fluff PR's. Have you not figured it out yet???? What 'real' news are you waiting for? How many people have to tell you that you bought into a scam before you actually realize it?

quote:
but in the pit of my stomach, I see this stock as a white elephant.

I think what you're feeling in the pit of your stomach isn't a white elephant, but a brown turd. That's all this thing is and all it'll ever be. I'm not sure when you'll get around to realizing that, but I hope it'll occur sooner rather than later.

-R
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Oh well,I got 57 shares of UCAD trading @ $11.40 just for owning CMKX.
You arn't going to get anything like that owning QueerBID -robino.

 
Posted by will on :
 
Well, well, well, what do we have here? Hello Robin, read a little of your posts on the QBID thread. I don't check that thread often, got sick of it long ago with the chocolate pickle nonsense, just check it for entertainmanet now. You running out of punching bags over there?
Unfortuantely, there aren't many believers and faithful left here, most have packed up and moved on, claiming the board has been hijacked by bashers, and even called for the banning of a fellow who posts negatives, mostly factually stuff, but negative. I think you missed the good cuts of meat to gnaw on. Kind of a shame, it would have been good entertainment, hopes and dreams being smashed to bits by sobering evidence and facts.
For me, well, I will be loooking for a little run. I know all indications say there isn't much here, but not holding much is comforting. The faithful are just crazy and dogged enough to maybe run this little piggy one more time.
Sorry, you missed the real faithful. It would have been fun to watch, they would have kept you busy, and gave your mind pleanty of excercise. They do stop by ocassionally with fantastic conspiracy theories, you'll find one on just about every other page of this thread. Last one was closed with something about Dr D having a mind like a steel trap. I have said from the beginning, anyone willing to listen to Dr.D , and couple of others drink the KoolAid. Now I can add, anyone listen to Dr D and takes his theories serious has a mind like a piece of crap, not a steel trap.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Hi child, I have 14 shares of UCAD @ $11.40. I think I will sell them Monday morning.
Godamnit! I can't, they're restricted.

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
Oh well,I got 57 shares of UCAD trading @ $11.40 just for owning CMKX.
You arn't going to get anything like that owning QueerBID -robino.


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
LOL,They won't be forever.
 
Posted by will on :
 
How ignorant of me. You're right. someday I'll have 28 @ $15.00, after the $30.00 PPS F/S. Maybe 42 if it splits twice. Hope they can deliver the cash to Hell, because that's probably where I'll be by then.

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
LOL,They won't be forever.


 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
this stock isn't what the pumpers say it is that's true but there are too many things that have happened to call it a scam. cmkx has bought into a couple real reporting companies. this latest one UCA is a good example, UCAD is another. SGGM is a shell nothing else. CIM is a way to make ppl think there will be a short squeeze and another shell CMKX may one day end up in either one in an r/s move. is cmkx completely honest? not even close. the carolyn drill project is a bust, nothing new in mining. the new site probably will hit pay dirt but not enough to make 800 billion shares worth $1. the uranium will help but remember 5% of that is sggm's as the deal said ALL mining interests which includes gemm & ucad's cuts. but in a yr or 2 a lot of what is now just getting started will be close to paying for themselves & money will start rolling in and then a 20% profit per yr of holding cmkx stock is more then possible. this is my target and opinion i have $1,000 invested without any dividend profit i'm guessing my grand will become 10 to 20 grand which is a pps of .005 to .01. i have 2,062,500 shares. of couse UC is going to have to stop raising the a/s for that to happen because from the dividend we can see that any raise in the a/s goes right into the o/s. the hype around cmkx will help that pps increase because at some point only the "faithfull" will own shares and as we know they think $1 is a low estimate in pps no matter what the o/s is. this will drive demand and thus the pps.. of course this is only my opinion and what i think is possible for my investment.
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Will,you're to much.HA HA HA
Well if that happens,I hope we're both alive to see it.So I can say I told you so.LOL

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited October 09, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
You're probably much younger than I am. When it does happen, just look down to the steaming, firey, smoldering, pits of Hell, and say, "I told ya so, will, burn in Hell you filthy skeptic, you"

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
Will,you're to much.HA HA HA
Well if that happens,I hope we're both alive to see it.So I can say I told you so.LOL

[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited October 09, 2004).]



 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Bill,that's how I feel about it too.
In sub-penny land it's better not to put all your eggs in one basket.
But with CMKX they're taking my one egg and putting it in several baskets.
I've got time to wait and I think it'll be fun to watch while finding other stocks to play along the way.
 
Posted by slpj1960 on :
 
Nice showing of respect for others on your latest posts Will. The time that some of you spend here on this lottery ticket is amazing.
 
Posted by will on :
 
I have no idea what you're talking about. Seems you feel disrespected. You are responsible for how you feel, not me. I don't recall saying anything particularly insulting to you. So quiet yourself, and move on, pal.

quote:
Originally posted by slpj1960:
Nice showing of respect for others on your latest posts Will. The time that some of you spend here on this lottery ticket is amazing.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Will wrote:
Now I can add, anyone listen to Dr D and takes his theories serious has a mind like a piece of crap, not a steel trap.
--------------------------------------------

Who dat?

I don't plan to wait for Hell. Don't mind telling the avid, fanatical pumpers, "I told you so!", before that. LOL

 


Posted by will on :
 
I'm not even going to bother telling them, " I told you so". Anyone sitting with $10,000 or more of their hard earned money are already kicking themselves in the ass. Of course, they will tell you that there are secret deals between Federal and Quais-Federal agencies involved in a "deal" with all the players and principals here. It's just amazing how far the will think and go to justify their poor judgement.
Now I have to be pestered with some jamoke lecturing me about respect. Just another johnny come lately spouting some ungrounded, unfounded, nonsensical crap.

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Will wrote:
Now I can add, anyone listen to Dr D and takes his theories serious has a mind like a piece of crap, not a steel trap.


 


Posted by Just Looking on :
 
Beware of the Basher!
Investopedia Staff (Investopedia.com)

Whether you are fairly new to online investing or a seasoned veteran, you've probably seen the message boards and chat rooms that focus on stocks. Many of these boards make tabloids look tame, churning out rumor after rumor 24 hours a day. Some of the more popular boards are getting upwards of 10,000 posts daily. Here we look at how the practice of bashing takes place on these boards, and how you can handle bashers when you encounter them.

The Advent of the Internet
No technology has changed the financial industry more than the Internet, which has allowed individual investors from every corner of the globe to meet and talk about the prospects and risks of companies. The free flow of information has changed the very way we invest, but this mass communication does not come without a price. The anonymity of the Internet has allowed unscrupulous people to distort and control artificially the price of a stock--these people are the bashers.

What Is a Basher?
A basher is a person who lurks in the shadows of investment chat rooms spreading calculated, and almost always unfounded, confidence-shaking news about a stock. The basher's purpose is to instigate a sell off that will in turn drive the stock price down, either for his or her own benefit or that of his or her employer.

This practice may seem fairly simple, but there is a science behind it. Supposedly, reputable companies and investment firms sometimes hire bashers to help make the conditions for a takeover more favorable. You see, when one company wants to buy another, stock price is king. If the stock of a multi-billion dollar target company changes even by one dollar, the difference in the price of the takeover can be millions of dollars. A basher who successfully pushes down the price of a stock may receive a very lucrative compensation.

How Bashers Get Paid
Bashers may also get paid by the number of responses they get from their postings. They act as catalysts, hoping to spread a firestorm of bad news about a stock. Due to the highly unethical and, in some cases, illegal act of hiring a basher, employers almost always remain anonymous. Bashers' employers will want to depress a stock price usually for one of two reasons: to increase their position in a company for a lower price, or to profit on the short side of the stock.

Here are some basher tactics that online chatters should be aware of:

Bashers lie! – Bashers have no ethical code that prevents them from lying. They will lie blatantly and often.

Bashers usually bash stocks that are more volatile – Bashers usually only go after stocks that could show a large increase or decrease in price. There's a low probability that a basher would ever be able to influence a company with a huge float like General Electric, for example.

Bashers will use any news – Bashers will not favor recent news over old news, or vice versa. They'll take information out of context if it will help depress a stock.

Bashers exploit investors' lack of knowledge – Most bashers rely on the notion that most investors don't check their facts and, as such, will use false information to sway people.

Bashers post frequently – Bashers are a persistent bunch. Through the use of repetition, they attempt to wear down those on the long side of stocks.

Bashers can travel in packs – It is common for a group of bashers to enter a chat room quietly and carefully and feed off each other's posts to dominate subtly the sentiment of the room.

Who Are Bashers' Prey?
As you can probably gather from the above list of tactics, bashers do not target well-informed investors but those who are easily persuaded. Bashers know that "green" or rookie investors are inherently wary of the market and oversensitive to bad news.

Anyone in a chat room who claims to be your friend and have your best interests in mind is likely a basher--after all, why would anyone give good advice for free in a chat room ? It's doubtful that experts such as Warren Buffett and Peter Lynch frequent these rooms. (Read more on Peter Lynch here.)

Levels of Bashers' Skills
The most effective bashers have strategies that are very well thought out. They often develop a character who draws attention and builds trust from others on the chat board. Good bashers try to appear sophisticated: they never use profanity because that would cause people to ignore them. Quite often, these bashers will respond condescendingly to their questioners for asking such "stupid" questions.

The purpose is to get a reaction from other posters: the more reaction, the more the room will be disrupted. To throw yet another wrench into the works, bashers often send in another person to side with the longs of a stock. Again, the idea behind this is to distract people, and to spread rumors and confusion throughout the room.

Not all bashers display such proficiency and dedication. Like any profession or sport, the bashing world has participants at different skill levels. It helps to know how the experts operate differently from the novices, so here is a list of the skills displayed in the different "leagues" (to use a baseball analogy) of bashers:

Major League – The major league bashers are excellent at what they do. The better the bashers are at their game, the tougher they are to spot. They are online constantly, always attacking and attempting to make positive postings look unreasonable. Those in the major leagues are masters at manipulation, knowing how to convince other chatters that a particular stock should be sold immediately.

AAA – These bashers are able to twist the meanings of words, phrases, quotes, and press releases quite compellingly; however, they do not have the same influence over others as those in the major leagues.

AA - These bashers are still learning the subtleties of the art of appearing like a trustworthy, sophisticated fellow investor. For example, a AA basher may react overzealously to comments that question his or her perpetually bearish attitude.

Bat Boy – Although this level of basher knows the profession and has known some major leaguers, he or she is utterly useless in the ways of bashing. The bat boy bashers make themselves obvious, using profanity, name calling and irrational arguments. These bashers are easily identified.

How to Handle Bashers
There are basically two ways in which chatters can handle bashers. Firstly, you should simply ignore them because they want and feed off attention. If they aren't getting any, they'll likely slink away and attempt to prey on more receptive victims. But sometimes the tenacious basher invading a good chat room needs to be confronted. Here are some tips that, if you must confront a basher, will likely help:

Do your due diligence. The phrase, "knowledge is power" is no more true than in this instance. Try to post a number of well-researched messages that confound the premise of a basher's arguments.

Do not engage bashers directly, but instead post general and open-ended messages disputing bashers' posts.

Remind those in the chat room that the mere fact that something is in writing does not make it the truth.

Conclusion
Bashing is always happening, so it's important for you to realize there are people out there who make a good living out of manipulating investors. Participating in a chat forum can be both enjoyable and insightful, but always remember to look at each message with the knowledge that its sender may not be sincere.

Cheers,

Investopedia Staff
 


Posted by will on :
 
JustLooking wrote:

"Many of these boards make tabloids look tame, churning out rumor after rumor 24 hours a day."

The only rumors I see here are the pie-in-the-sky theories that all is well and will be better.

The one fact I do know is: Close CMKX = .0002 !
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
The one fact I do know is: Close CMKX = .0002 !

Is it,or is that just what they want you to think?LOL
But seriously,here's a good read. http://www.investors.com/breakingnews.asp?journalid=23435497&brk=1
 


Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i have to agree will..i do think profit will be made and i dont agree with those calling cmkx a scam but the only theories in here are from those that still think cmkx will make them rich and they get mad at anyone saying otherwise. they blame allstocks for not letting this thread becoming another "we will all soon be rich" site. in truth it would take all of 10 minutes to complete real "DD" on cmkx because there is none. they think a theory is real "DD". nothing i have posted on this site could be considered "DD". everything i post is from basic math & realistic stock market principles. too many of the "faithful" think these things dont apply to cmkx. they think of this as the cmkx family, well when UC invites me personally to x-mas dinner i'll think of it as family, till then its a stock that i believe will in the next yr or so make me a nice profit on my investment
 
Posted by will on :
 
child, child, child, you're making me believe you're not grounded in reality. You see it in black and white. There is nothing else to think. It isn't a typo, or misprint, it is .0002. Please don't make me belive you're one of "them". That tape wasn't painted, it traded hard at .0002 for two sessions, it's seriously flirting with .0001 again. What is, is, what ain't, ain't, it's just that simple.

Y'all claim we don't know the O/S, well believe it, it's 780B+.
We never found out about the second group of core samples, no PR regarding them, believe it.
We have no idea what progress is being made, or has been made to become a reporting company, no word from CMKX, believe it.

I don't want a freaking Christmas dinner with these people. I would settle for some honest, forthright, forthcoming, reporting. Until they play fair, I have no reason to believe that there isn't something not right here. A scam, I think not, forthcoming, I know not.

You don't have to DD the fact that someone is handing you a bag of smelly dogcrap, and telling you it's ice cream. If you had one ounce of street sense you would know. You can't make chicken salad from chicken sh|t. Well, at least you and I can't, but it seems that UC and family/coharts, have succeeded with the faithful.

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
Is it,or is that just what they want you to think?LOL
But seriously,here's a good read. http://www.investors.com/breakingnews.asp?journalid=23435497&brk=1


 


Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Will, me and my 27M shares will be right with you to the end, regardless of where it ends. Go CMKX.
quote:
Originally posted by will:
child, child, child, you're making me believe you're not grounded in reality. You see it in black and white. There is nothing else to think. It isn't a typo, or misprint, it is .0002. Please don't make me belive you're one of "them". That tape wasn't painted, it traded hard at .0002 for two sessions, it's seriously flirting with .0001 again. What is, is, what ain't, ain't, it's just that simple.

Y'all claim we don't know the O/S, well believe it, it's 780B+.
We never found out about the second group of core samples, no PR regarding them, believe it.
We have no idea what progress is being made, or has been made to become a reporting company, no word from CMKX, believe it.

I don't want a freaking Christmas dinner with these people. I would settle for some honest, forthright, forthcoming, reporting. Until they play fair, I have no reason to believe that there isn't something not right here. A scam, I think not, forthcoming, I know not.

You don't have to DD the fact that someone is handing you a bag of smelly dogcrap, and telling you it's ice cream. If you had one ounce of street sense you would know. You can't make chicken salad from chicken sh|t. Well, at least you and I can't, but it seems that UC and family/coharts, have succeeded with the faithful.



 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
I basically left because of bashers. I have owned over 25 million, avg about .0002, for some time. Months.

I did sell some at .0008 and bought some other stocks, but I am pretty happy right now.


Those who say this is a scam are pretty dumb imo.


What is fun to see is how fickle people are. When United Carina announced they bought claims with uranium content many of the bashers were saying, "now that is a real company, wish CMKX could be like them, etc.


Now we have options on 50% and now UCA is a scam too. Nothing is legitimate. They are just fluffing a pr etc.


At least the bashers could be consistent.

Also, if we have AS of 800 B and OS of 770 b, why would CMKX pump this. We have no more stock to unload. If investors own it all then any pps rise benefits the investor.

Companies pump stocks when they have shares to sell. They let it fall when they want to buy back.


Nothing bashers are saying is logical.



 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
The only concern about this stock is OS. The company has not hidden this fact. They issued a dividend at that leve.

Thus they are not hiding anything. They have given investors a high end worst case figure.


You may call this a bad investment, but you are disingenuous when you claim CMKX is hiding it to scam anyone.

Take the numbers and news about claims. Add it up and see if you think CMKX will make you money. If yes invest, if not leave it be.


Right now I am convinced that this company will make money for us. According to my numbers I believe we can be ten cents per share in two years.

779 billion X .10 = 77.9 billion


If we find 77.9 billion in Gold, Uranium, Palladium, Iron, Silver, Oil, etc on our claims then we have a real value, a book value of .10.


This is if the company really has an OS of 779 b.

At 25 million a .10 pps = 2.5 million on a 2600 dollar investment.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
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Re: MM's THAT GOT RAIDED YESTERDAY & TODAY
« Reply #9 on: Today at 08:04am »

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On the TECHNOLOGICAL Front:
---the creation of the Short Virus Scan software will allow the tracing of all suspicious transactions.

Read the highlight of the article below:
August 4, 2004. (FinancialWire) Charles Schwab, eTrade, Automatic Data Processing and NASDAQ are described as players, bad and good, in the new book from Austin-based 3DIntel, ?Naked Short Selling: The Illegal Hacking of the U.S. Financial System,? by Alan Lomax (http://www.thirtythumbs . com ).

To complement its publication, 3DIntel said it has unveiled a new patent pending program, called The Naked Short Virus Scan, which enables US based public companies to determine their short position in their stock. ?The scan will identify in the size of short, date of occurrence, and the brokerage houses holding the short positions,? the company stated. its unique patent pending process allow them to trace the illegal trades in their shares.?

The group recently brought suit against the Depository Trust and Clearing Corp. for allegedly participating in the short-selling conspiracy through its ?stock borrow? program which the attorneys say is nothing more than an illegal electronic printing press for stock certificates

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On the REGULATORY Front:
---the Patriot act will bring forth a rash of SAR's (suspicious activity reports) when illicit behavior is observed.
---the canadian authorities have issued warnings about "know your Client" and "failure to supervise" violations by giant BCO Nesbitt..
---the new SHO regulations that will make it more difficult ot short stocks (see below).
---the realization of the SEC that the confidence in them is at an all time low (Enron,Worldcom)
---the memories of the Bre-X mining scandal is still painful for Canadians

In a June 23 release, the SEC stated it has put into place Rule 202(T), which establishes procedures to allow the Commission to temporarily suspend the operation of the current "tick" test in Rule 10a-1, and any short sale price test of any exchange or national securities association, for specified securities. Through a separate order, the Commission will suspend, on a pilot basis for a period of one-year, the tick test provision of paragraph (a) of Rule 10a-1, and any short sale price test of any exchange or national securities association, for approximately one-third of stocks in the Russell 3000 index. The order also will suspend, on a pilot basis for a period of one year, the tick test provision of paragraph (a) of Rule 10a-1 for short sales executed in any security included in the Russell 1000 index after 4:15 p.m. Eastern, and all other securities after the close of the consolidated tape, and until the open of the consolidated tape the next day. The pilot will commence on January 3, 2005 to permit broker-dealers and self-regulatory organizations to make the necessary programming adjustments.

Rule 203 also imposes additional requirements on designated "threshold securities." Rule 203 defines a threshold security to mean an equity security for which there is an aggregate fail to deliver position for five consecutive settlement days at a registered clearing agency of 10,000 shares or more and that is equal to at least 0.5% of the issue's total shares outstanding. Where a clearing agency participant has a fail to deliver position in threshold securities that persists for ten consecutive days after settlement, the participant must take action to close out the position. Until the position is closed out, the participant, and any broker-dealer for which it clears transactions, may not effect further short sales in the particular threshold security without borrowing or entering into a bona fide arrangement to borrow the security. Rule 203 will become effective 30 days after publication with a compliance date of January 3, 2005, to permit firms to make programming and procedural adjustments.
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On the FINANCIAL Front:
---the defeat of the Naked Short Share machine by CMKX will cause huge losses if Shorty is indeed as heavily invested as many speculate. Some believe the UCAD dividend fiasco of "Ghost Shares: and the apparent "short squeeze on UCAD, SGGM and GEMM show that covering of the dividend is occuring. Additionally, judging by the money Shorty is spending to convince people CMKX is a scam,he is in trouble. Additionally, the impact to the offshore hedge funds, crooked market makers and assisting brokerage houses could be painful for a select crooked few. As things begin to tumble around them, I expect many of Shorty's compatriots to break ranks and begin providing authorities with the information needed to peel the next layer of the rotten onion. This ongoing flow of information is the missing piece that's frustrated all previous attempts to access the innards of Shorty's Cash Machine.

--The 45,000 loyal shareholders Urban has will provide the Army that NO OTHER penny stock has ever gone to battle with. We have the potential to beome a political and financial power that cannot be ignored. That's why I expect to see several politicians at the party in Las Vegas.

---Charles Schwab & Co. recently read it decided to exit the market-making business. It is one of several market makers that have been the subject of accusations and/or legal entanglements over naked shorting allegations and issues. The company had said it is either the number one or number two market-maker in more than half of all of NASDAQ?s (OTCBB: NDAQ) listed stocks.

Recently observers were surprised to find a comment letter submitted to the SEC by Mike Alexander, Senior VP of Charles Schwab, that admits outright that brokerages regularly ignore rules and regulations, saying it is not rules that need to be written; it is changes in behavior that is needed. http://www.sec.gov/rules/concept/s71304/charlesschwab061604.pdf .

--NITE is currently undergoing a corporate restructuring and has sold some divisions to Citicorp.

Some background on NITE
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=NITE&read=82059
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On the EDUCATION Front:
---the final nail in Shorty's coffin may just be the Dateline expose rumored to be released in late October.

First, my thanks to gojmha from the RB boards for bringing my attention to this article
Here's the link to his post: http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=NITE&read=81743


So, what bombshells could the expose contain?
1) Former Under Secretary of Commerce Robert Shapiro has reportedly told Dateline that the Illegal Shorting and stock manipulation has attributed to $500 Billion to $1 Trillion in economic losses to Investors.

2) Recently convicted individuals for securities fraud have reportedly informed Dateline of the mechanisms to the stock manipulation including the bribing of US Brokers via the use of pre-paid credit cards as well as the Bribing of Regulatory Officials empowered to protect the Investors.

3) Dateline has reportedly spoken to "Players" who have identified the Banking locations (Bahamas, Bermuda, etc?) where Offshore Hedge Funds are being used as the tool to manipulate the securities. Major US Firms are Investors in the Funds seeking quick and easy profits.

4) Dateline has reportedly been provided evidence of the 5 major US Organized Crime families being implicated in this securities fraud scandal as well as links to Terrorism leading into Saudi Arabia among other locations.

5) Finally, Dateline has reportedly spoken to ex-executives of the Depository Trust who have explained in great detail the operations of the DTCC and how that operation is helping in this fraud. The DTCC hides the level of illegal trades (settlement failures) that are the means to the stock manipulation.

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Everyone should contact Dateline and insist that they air the story on illegal shorting. The further education of the public is critical at this time. Here is the e-mail address: Dateline@NBC.com (Sharon Hoffman is the producer for this piece.)
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In summary, I am encouraged that a concerted effort to trace the short sellers down has begun and seems to be progressing in an orderly, albeit, painfully slow manner. While we cannot bankrupt the credibility of our financial markets, it is nonetheless, critical that we take this opportunity to change the way Shorty operates.

As I've shown above, this "confluence of negative events" is in effect creating a "Perfect Storm" that will sink Shorty's 300 foot yacht. We must push our Legislators, our Attorney General's, our Brokers and even the Television Networks to do the right thing. We have NEVER HAD the opportunity to expose Shorty before and we MUST take advantage of the favorable circumstances that have come our way. .

Good Luck and it's all speculation

 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Will,CMKX has stated they want to become a fully reporting company in the same breath as D.R. Glenn.So then why would you think that they would tell everything they know before that day comes?
Look I'm just having fun here,and tring to learn a little bit as well.I have nothing to lose.In @ .0001, 1/2 free shares and now with 57 free UCAD shares.(restricted)
I'm just sitting back waiting and seeing.
Besides I'm not smart enough to be one of "them".However I think you were kidding.

 
Posted by will on :
 
Yeah, I was jagging ya little, child. You're in pretty good shape with 1/2 free, depending on what half is, and how much the other half cost, but I don't really care, but wish us both luck.
This is fun for me too, at .0001, $250 worth of fun, like I said yesterday. I pay for my ticket, I get to boo or cheer, whichever is appropriate at any given time. I see some slob of a batter strike out 4 times in one game, he gets booed, I can see that same slob the next day hit 3 home runs, I'll cheer him. Problem with CMKX is they been in a terrible slump, and other rabid fans keep telling them how good they're doing. Well, IMHO, they're deserving every boo I can give them right now. Send that sickass PPS to .0009 or better, and I'll cheer my freaking head off.

quote:
Originally posted by highwaychild:
Will,CMKX has stated they want to become a fully reporting company in the same breath as D.R. Glenn.So then why would you think that they would tell everything they know before that day comes?
Look I'm just having fun here,and tring to learn a little bit as well.I have nothing to lose.In @ .0001, 1/2 free shares and now with 57 free UCAD shares.(restricted)
I'm just sitting back waiting and seeing.
Besides I'm not smart enough to be one of "them".However I think you were kidding.


 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
The volume has been something else this past month.The past week very interesting.

DATE_______GEMM____UCAD____SGGM____CMKX

08 OCT 04 - 3,377,351 - 79,060 - 566,806 - 12,508,637,168

07 OCT 04 - 1,160,520 - 528,940 - 136,797 - 1,432,690,681

06 OCT 04 - 3,764,493 - 438,133 - 283,305 - 14,838,183,007

05 OCT 04 - 4,008,001 - 1,187,778 - 159,029 - 16,615,152,695

04 OCT 04 - 127,300 - 71,896 - 160,439 - 4,853,359,087

01 OCT 04 - 56,290 - 963,234 - 163,394 - 6,078,129,119

30 SEP 04 - 42,942 - 8,860 - 484,687 - 4,294,580,136

29 SEP 04 - 279,716 - 8,640 - 634,466 - 2,525,294,490

28 SEP 04 - 44,863 - 17,733 - 400,205 - 5,213,844,234

27 SEP 04 - 231,300 - 21,238 - 261,243 -3,656,459,965

24 SEP 04 - 214,328 - 20,283 - 371,318 - 1,834,010,126

23 SEP 04 - 220,700 - 8,387 - 585,161 - 2,551,827,924

22 SEP 04 - 71,050 - 17,560 - 597,195 - 1,867,623,325

21 SEP 04 - 205,568 - 102,218 - 268,730 - 1,695,235,748

20 SEP 04 - 791,669 - 26,980 - 472,910 - 2,520,801,150

17 SEP 04 - 830,806 - 15,800 - 429,594 - 1,665,758,984

16 SEP 04 - 311,118 - 12,205 - 239,968 -2,428,047,277

15 SEP 04 - 60,920 - 5,649 - 57,530 -2,145,087,691

14 SEP 04 - 175,400 - 15,480 - 61,854 - 3,141,064,258

13 SEP 04 - 256,697 - 20,351 - 552,117 - 3,861,470,269

10 SEP 04 - 201,500 - 11,170 - 1,028,313 - 2,516,716,662

09 SEP 04 - 813,283 - 33,005 - 2,454,846 - 1,732,597,712


[This message has been edited by highwaychild (edited October 09, 2004).]
 


Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
Why are they in a slump?

1. Bought into a Gold mine.
2. Are currently drilling on some good prospective diamond claims.
3. Just issued a dividend.
4. Just bought into uranium claims.
5. Fully reporting soon.

I see a lot of good with this company. If you want everything over night then maybe it is a slump. If you see them as methodically working their claims then it isn't a slump.

PPS is down because prospecting takes time. People are waiting for good news to jump in. Shorty may be shorting. OS is high.

If people have a better current investment then they should sell and go there. If you are in for a while then this has as good of prospects as any.
 


Posted by will on :
 
.....and people, especially this people can see it and call it as he pleases. All well and good that they're into all these deals. I bouhgt CMKX, in anticipation of the price rising, not to see how many claims they could sell and/or buy, and watch the price go down.

"2. Are currently drilling on some good prospective diamond claims."
Are they drilling?
"5. Fully reporting soon."
You know something the rest of us don't?
"If people have a better current investment then they should sell and go there. If you are in for a while then this has as good of prospects as any."
Other people should be concerend with their portfolio, and not tell anyone what they "should" do. As far as being as good as any, arguable at this point. I see nothing REAL, no announcement of the value of these claims, just that they bought into some. Yea, yea, pie-in-the-sky value, but no REAL value. I'll believe it when the check clears the bank, until then it's speculation on the faithful's part.
 


Posted by RobinO on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
You running out of punching bags over there?

Nope, there's no shortage of dumb people on the internet

quote:
I think you missed the good cuts of meat to gnaw on. Kind of a shame, it would have been good entertainment, hopes and dreams being smashed to bits by sobering evidence and facts.

Yeah it's great entertainment value. Especially when I'm accused of being a paid professional. So flattering I've been reading this thread off and on for a long time now in utter and complete amazement. I'm seriously thinking of starting my own mining company and dumping hundreds of billions of shares on the market. I could probably get rich pretty quick don't you think.. people will buy ANYTHING. I'm just holding out for the mother of all I Told You So threads these days. Should be a good one.

Good luck on the buy in. The handful of whackjobs who 'believe' in these things certainly have the ability to buy it up a notch or two so you might be able to work something out of it. I prefer to sit on the sidelines though.. reading the threads here is kinda like watching Cops. It *shouldn't* be funny to watch how stupid other people can be, but darnit, it just IS...

-R
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
All right!! Who's the clown, pumping jackal that sent me a CMKX T-Shirt?

My neighbors made me take it off the Halloween scarecrow outside saying it would lower real estate values and that it was beneath their intelligence.

On top of that, there was a bunch of pump literature in the package with a chip stuck to one page. Thought it might be a diamond in the rough. No such luck! When I saw that it said "Limited Edition" on the back side, I realized it referred to CMKX and it's anticipated life span. Maybe that is UC's way sending a new kind of PR...you know, hidden messages.

Remember, folks........"Limited Edition"!!!!

 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Will wrote:
It's just amazing how far the will think and go to justify their poor judgement.

Will, that’s not poor judgement. It’s NO judgement!
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Just Looking wrote (edited):
Beware of the Basher!
Investopedia Staff (Investopedia.com)

JL, suggest you start doing a just a little bit of looking!
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RaiderJR wrote
Thus they are not hiding anything. They have given investors a high end worst case figure.

RJR, that makes no sense whatsoever! Same with the balance of your two posts!
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Noahltl,

Your last post sounds very much like someone I once knew.
How are you doing buddy? Well, I hope.
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RobinO,

You a "paid professional basher"? Can there be two of us on the same thread?

You better get the hell off! This hijacked thread is MINE!!! I bought it! LOL

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited October 09, 2004).]
 


Posted by Upside on :
 
wallace,
you have a CMKX T-Shirt and a poker chip? How do you rate? Wear it with pride and read all the literature, it makes for good bedtime reading! Sends you to sleep with sweet dreams. I curl up with my poker chip every night! I've got 19 of them, anyone want one?
 
Posted by osubucks30 on :
 
The more DD I do the more I believe this is a scam.

CMKM(CMKX) also gave U.S. Canadian a one year option to acquire an additional 10% of CMKM's mineral claims for $15 million in cash. On July 27, 2004, CMKM announced that it had received $3 million from U.S. Canadian, representing a partial exercise of the option.

On the surface it seemed unlikely that U.S. Canadian would be able to come up with the necessary funds. Unlike CMKM and St. George, U.S. Canadian does file periodic reports with the SEC - the price it must pay to preserve its listing on the OTC Bulletin Board. Those reports suggest that U.S. Canadian faces considerable financial challenges. As of March 31, 2004, U.S. Canadian had $408 in cash, no current revenues, and concerns about its ability to continue as a going concern.

Matters hardly improved in the third quarter of 2004. As of June 30, 2004, U.S. Canadian had $1,321 in cash, no revenues, and cumulative losses of $17.7 million. So where did U.S. Canadian get $3 million - and why would it invest those precious funds in CMKM?

The answer can be found in U.S. Canadian's Form 10-Q financial report for the quarter ended June 30, 2004. According to the Form 10-Q, U. S. Canadian agreed to sell 600,000 shares of its stock to an unnamed party related to CMKM at $5 a share. The $3,000,000 received by U.S. Canadian from that transaction was then paid to CMKM.

In other words, an individual related to CMKM funded U.S. Canadian's investment in CMKM - just one more swap in this series of intriguing transactions.
 


Posted by tradingpennys on :
 
Wallace - you are too funny!! LOL
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Upside,

Are we back to being buddys again or did you slip up on your promise not to address me again? LOL If, buddys again, please capitalize the first letter of my name. Remember, I caught hell from noahltl for not capitalizing "j"!! LOL

Tradingpennys,

Glad you enjoyed that. Sorry you lost so much $$$ if you sold. So very sorry.
 


Posted by Penny-Trader on :
 
now theres a sound reason to buy a stock.


lol

you crack me up

quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
The best assurance that this is not a scam is the fact of all of the new posters. Have you noticed how many new posters there are suddenly and none have anything good to say about cmkx?


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Bill, or anyone, who thinks there is truly a 800 bil OS, could you explain how it will climb to 1.5 trillion + by next Monday or Tuesday for the CIM distribution? Are you thinking we will have an AS increase to 1.5 trillion and 900 billion shares sold between now and then? If no one hns a believable answer for this, then you have to believe that something is going on behind the scenes that we are not seeing.
 
Posted by osubucks30 on :
 
According to the published information regarding the dividend distribution of Casavant International Mining shares, shareholders will receive 0.0256 of a restricted share of Casavant International Mining for each CMKM share held. Assuming the full 40 billion shares of Casavant International Mining are distributed, that calculation pegs CMKM's outstanding total at more than 1.56 trillion shares.
 
Posted by osubucks30 on :
 
The Nevada Secretary of State reported that as of Sept. 28 Casavant International Mining was only authorized to issue a modest 25 million shares.

Evidently some paper work will have to be completed before the Oct. 18 dividend-in-specie distribution of shares of Casavant International Mining.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
tradingpennys,

Well, the end of that CMKX T-Shirt story is that I took it up to the farm and tried to get the bull to wear it. No dice, so I threw it on a pile of BS. And, would you believe it, a bear came out of the woods and grabbed it. It's now called the CMKX bear and hides out under an old, broken down oil
drilling rig out in the boonies.
 


Posted by lanebro on :
 
I pulled the three (of 3) following off the State of Nevada SOS Corporate Info Website. Why do I not see Urban's name on anything but the Golf Co.?
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Dean Heller
Nevada Secretary of State
Corporate Information

Name: CASAVANT RACING CORPORATION

Type: Corporation File Number: C6068-2004 State: NEVADA Incorporated On: March 10, 2004
Status: Initial list of officers filed Corp Type: Regular
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC (Accepted)
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
President: DAVID DESORMEAU
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
Secretary: DAVID DESORMEAU
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT
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Dean Heller
Nevada Secretary of State
Corporate Information

Name: CASAVANT GOLF COMPANY

Type: Corporation File Number: C184-2003 State: NEVADA Incorporated On: January 06, 2003
Status: Default Corp Type: Regular
Resident Agent: DAVID DESORMEAU (Accepted)
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89014-
President: URBAN CASAVANT
Address: 30 PRINCIVILLE CT

LAS VEGAS NV 89113-
Secretary: DAVID DESORMEAU
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
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Dean Heller
Nevada Secretary of State
Corporate Information

Name: CASAVANT INTERNATIONAL MINING CORPORATION

Type: Corporation File Number: C1291-2003 State: NEVADA Incorporated On: January 21, 2003
Status: Current list of officers on file Corp Type: Regular
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC (Accepted)
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
President: RON CASAVANT
Address: 30 PRINCEVILLE

LAS VEGAS NV 89113-
Secretary: DAVID DESORMEAU
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT.

HENDERSON NV 89074-
Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT.

HENDERSON NV 89074-




 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Wallace,
Note capitalization. Buddys? I'm not really buddys with anyone here but all in all I really do think your ok. What I do want to know is how you came up with the shirt and poker chip?
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Upside,

Like I said, probably one of those jackals. Maybe B.C? LOL
 




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