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http://frogurt3.dyndns.org:8080/aero/hater.html

for all the haters

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Looks like hurricane IVAN has all the rats running for shelter. Me thinkest the basheres art getting a bit nervous. What's with all the negative vibes. Was there a disaterous PR that I missed? I thinkest not. Alas poor Wally, I knew him well (NOT). Et tu Basher...be gone with thyself. The beast hath consumed thee. Thou days are numbered.

Repent....Good night...


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Work,
Hast thou attended a Renaissance Faire in thy near past?

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Here's more, highwaychild. Some or most of it from recent 10QSBs as they refer to both companies or to UCAD alone.

In 2003, the company moved from the OTC BB to the pink sheets and changed its symbol to CMKM. During 2003 Casavant Mining Kimberlite International acquired a company that was in the process of mining zinc. However, in order to maintain their focus on diamond exploration Casavant Mining Kimberlite International decided to "spinoff" the zinc division as a separate company. Casavant International Mining was formed and each shareholder of Casavant Mining Kimberlite International was issued a share of the new company for each share of Casavant Mining Kimberlite International that they owned. Originally, the spinoff company was going to merge with Mirador, Inc., a publicly traded company, to make the newly issued shares tradeable. However, plans for the merger have been put on hold indefinitely.


LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 19, 2004--CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX - News) has agreed to invest US$1,000,000 in Casavant International Mining referred to as (CIM). CMKM Diamonds,Inc. will receive in return a 10% lifetime royalty on all mineral claims of CIM , specifically including the George Lake Zinc Deposit,

Q: Thought they spun this company off to “focus on diamond exploration”? Instead, now they are pouring money into it?

Casavant has been assembling the world's diamond experts to assist in developing
the company.

Q: Exactly how many of said “experts” ? Assuming he is still with them, isn’t it just ONE? Wasn’t that Mark Hutchinson?

" In addition the company will merchandise purchased diamonds under the "Casavant" brand name.

Q: How many have been purchased and how many have been sold?

... Casavant Mining Kimberlite International Hires Charles Bronson For Financial Public Relations. ...

Q: Remember that one? Suppose Melvin was responsible for proofing that release?

Re: UCAD's Value and other Questions

The Company's accountant has included the following statement in its notes to this filing:
"The accompanying financial statements have been prepared on a going concern basis, which contemplates the realization of assets and the satisfaction of liabilities in the normal course of business. The Company has incurred cumulative net losses of approximately $18,345,000 since its inception and requires capital for its contemplated operational activities to take place. The company's ability to raise additional capital through the future issuances of the common stock is unknown. The obtainment of additional financing, the successful development of the Company's contemplated plan of operations, and its transition, ultimately, to the attainment of profitable operations are necessary for the Company to continue operations. The ability to successfully resolve these factors raise substantial doubt about the Company's ability to continue as a going concern. The consolidated financial statements of the Company do not include any adjustments that may result from the outcome of these aforementioned uncertainties."

NOTE: The above is from UCAD’s 10QSB (dated 3/31/04, filed May,04). The above is what is called a “qualified” accountant’s statement.

Q: How viable do you think this company is and how valuable do you think it’s stock as a CMKX dividend really is?

On February 26, 2004, the Company entered into a joint venture agreement with CMKM Diamonds, Inc., a Nevada corporation, to conduct a airborne survey of the fort a la Corne Kimberlite fields, including the 500,000 acres held by NevCan

Q: If I remember correctly, didn’t CMKX conveniently forget to mention this when they released similar information? Do all those 100s of anomalies identified include those on UCAD’s claims as well? It appears that the company identified as “NevCan” may in fact be Nevada Minerals.

From UCAD’s most recent 10QSB (filed Aug,04):

In August 2001, the Company's Board of Directors adopted a resolution whereby it approved a 10-to-1 stock split of the issued and outstanding shares of common stock. In December 2001, the Company's Board of Directors adopted a resolution whereby it approved a 1-for-10 reverse stock split. In December 2003, the Company's Board of Directors adopted a resolution whereby it approved a 1-for-100 reverse stock split. In January 2004, the Company's Board of Directors approved a 125-to-1 reverse stock split of its common stock.

GOING CONCERN - The accompanying financial statements have been prepared on a going concern basis, which contemplates the realization of assets and the satisfaction of liabilities in the normal course of business. The Company is in the development stage, has no operating revenue and has incurred cumulative net losses of approximately $17,700,000 since inception.
These conditions give rise to substantial doubt about the Company's ability to continue as a going concern.

Q: What do the above two statements tell you about UCAD’s real value?

3. FIXED ASSETS
Fixed assets consist of the following as of June 30, 2004 and December 31, 2003:
December 31,
June 30, 2004 2003
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Equipment $ 13,023 $ 13,023
Less: accumulated depreciation 9,879 6,735
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$ 3,144 $ 6,288
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Q: Just how much mining can be expected from UCAD with equipment worth $3,144 on their balance sheet? That's about what an old car is worth.

Q: How does that effect the value of the dividend CMKX shareholders will receive?

Re: JUINA Mining

YELLOW RIVER GOLD MINE ACQUISITION

On March 22, 2004, the Company, by and through Juina Mining Corporation, acquired an 80% interest in the Yellow River Mining, S.A., an Ecuador corporation, in exchange for 5,000,000 shares of the Company's restricted common stock. Yellow River Mining, S.A. holds legal rights and claims to gold mining operations in "Provincia Del Oro" [Province of Gold] in southwest Ecuador. The area is well known for gold mining operations that have been carried on there since the 1600s. However, the present mining operations are rudimentary and much of the mining work is done by hand. Very little modern mining equipment is available or used. No aerial surveys, mini bulk sampling or full bulk sampling have occurred on the property. An independent expert geologist has not proved up the area as a reserve or a resource. No equipment exists on site or otherwise owned or controlled by the Company, that would allow full scale development of the mine should it satisfy all conditions precedent to it being determined to be a resourc e. Thus, in order for the Company to develop this asset, financing will have to be acquired in order to satisfy the conditions precedent for full-scale mining to occur, and there are no guarantees that the Company will obtain such financing.

Q: Just how much value here is can be attributed toward UCAD’s stock, and, then to the CMKX dividend of that stock?

10. IMPAIRMENT OF INTANGIBLE ASSET
In September 2002, the Company agreed to issue 1,300,000 shares of the Company's common stock to the CEO and director of the Company for the acquisition of equipment and intellectual property valued at $12,000 and $157,000, respectively. During September 2002, the Company issued 650,000 shares of common stock, and subsequently transferred these shares to an entity affiliated with the CEO ("Affiliate"). In addition, the Company recorded a liability of $84,500 reflected as Due to Related Parties for the additional 650,000 shares to be issued to the CEO and director to be transferred to the Affiliate. Due to the related party nature of this transaction, the Company recorded the property at the historical cost rather than fair value of the property.

10. IMPAIRMENT OF INTANGIBLE ASSET (CONTINUED)
During 2002, the Company determined the intellectual property had no future value and recognized an expense totaling $157,000 for the impairment of intangible assets. During 2003, the Company issued 650,000 shares of the Company's common stock in consideration of the $84,500 liability.

Q: What the heck does the above mean? First the property has value and then it does not? Yet they still issue shares for said intellectual property (whatever that is)?

The Company also received a stock subscription agreement from a related party to CMKM Diamonds to purchase 600,000 shares of the Company's common stock at a price of $5 per share. The $3,000,000 has been received by the Company and immediately used to exercise the options on the first 2% of the current and future claims of CMKM Diamonds, Inc. under the July 18, 2004 agreement, noted above.

CMKM Diamonds, Inc.
On July 18, 2004, the Company acquired 5% of all mineral holdings of CMKM Diamonds, Inc. for 7,500,000 shares of common stock of the Company. On the same date, the company acquired an option to purchase an additional 10% of such mineral holdings for $15,000,000.00 USD. On July 27, 2004, the Company made its initial exercise pursuant to this option in the amount of $3,000,000.00 USD which is equivalent to an additional 2% of such mineral holdings. Most of CMKM Diamonds, Inc.'s holdings are in Saskatchewan, Canada in the general vicinity of the Company's Fort a La Corne and Smeaton holdings.

Q: From one hand to the other and back again?

Fort a La Corne
On January 20, 2004, the Company entered into a joint venture agreement with Nevada Minerals, Inc. to develop up to 500,000 acres of potential Kimberlite mineral property located in Canada. Kimberlites are raw materials from which diamonds are extracted. The Company has conducted preliminary drilling and obtained core samples that are presently being examined in a geological laboratory. There is no guarantee that any of the samples, or samples taken from any other area near the property, will yield Kimberlite with diamonds. The property is owned by Nevada Minerals, Inc. The joint venture has a term that expires on January 20, 2005. On July 18th 2004, Nevada Minerals, Inc. sold an additional 20% interest in this property and sold its remaining 60% interest to CMKM Diamonds, Inc. The Company is entitled to 40% of the net revenues produced from this property. Until the drilling program is complete, the Company can not make an accurate assessment of possible development costs due to uncertainty as to size, depth and location of any diamondiferous bodies.

Q: Does this now mean that CMKX has a controlling interest in claims formerly owned by Nevada Minerals?

Want more FACTS?

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secman:

The next time you copy one of my post from another board copy the entire link...

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Glassman wrote:

hi-way....what are we gonna do with you????
wallace is just trying to point out to you that people don't change very often.....
every once ina while one gets elected president and becomes superman, but usually when somebody hires a lawyer it's to GET OUT of trouble....LOL
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Might I add to attempt to STAY OUT OF TROUBLE? LOL


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Looks like Secman / Rchaud98 is the one in trouble. CoachPhil sounds like he might twist his head off and shove it up his ........ Oh I can't say that.
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Looks to me like you are getting personal again.

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Looks like Secman / Rchaud98 is the one in trouble. CoachPhil sounds like he might twist his head off and shove it up his ........ Oh I can't say that.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Looks to me like you are getting personal again.

noahltl
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There won't ever be a post between me and that little worm that isn't personal Wallace. If you recall, he made it personal. I've seen him on other boards as rchaud98 and secman. No telling what name he will hide behind to continue his childish games. He has been thrown off of most reputable boards with his games. Yet you find kinship with him.


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My bet is this is the one Coach is upset about. Too well written for Rchaud98 / secman:


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in a PR we where promised the following:
1.results from carolyn pipe.
2. news of Vegas meeting.(per ir man melvin)
3.news of canadas meeting(per ir man melvin)
4. video of drilling (8-5-04)pr
5.national tv campaign 12 spots run thru 12-18-04(7-14-04)pr
6.Pacific stock t/a, nothing about why they stopped and went back tp Global(6-29-04)pr
7.shutting down msg board, will be back up soon(6-18-04)pr
8.ucad and cmkx to move forward together, more details in future news release(7-18-04)pr

these are just a few of the recent promises. I tried to stick to the PR ones because the ones from IR Melvin, are numerous. to say the least. IBC radio, Pal-Talk etc.

I feel we as stockholders are being drug along for a ride without any accountability from our company. I know everyone says just wait, but look at this outside the box and as an investor. All the other stocks we own, we would not be this patient. If Ford, Msft, GE or any other company made these statements we would be up in arms.

Yes I also know they are reporting companies, but isn't that what we are trying to do. Become reporting. Expect higher standards from companies that are reporting. If we are to assume a trillion $ valuation should'nt our Board of directors act as such.

Just food for thought gang, nothing bad meant by this thread just trying to get feed back.



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quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
My bet is this is the one Coach is upset about. Too well written for Rchaud98 / secman:


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You are correct, and thank you. When ever anyone wants to repost from another board, is fine by me as long as they copy the entire thread, instead of cut and paste. I am usually behind the scenes here on this board, but Noah knows Iam pretty vocal on the other board. Ricpic and some others, we talked about cmkx in length about a year ago, when Ric was really active on this stock. Keep up the DD and good luck to all. To much personal attacks going on in here for me to get real active. Some of you need to take some Meds.
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Fact: CMKX's land claims do not appear on any Government published claim map. The only place you will see their name is on the maps printed and published by CMKX for their own promotional purposes.
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I think you need to know who owns each parcel of land the claims are on to aquire that info. That information is out there... somewhere.


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quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Glassman wrote:

hi-way....what are we gonna do with you????
wallace is just trying to point out to you that people don't change very often.....
every once ina while one gets elected president and becomes superman, but usually when somebody hires a lawyer it's to GET OUT of trouble....LOL


In some cases,people hire lawers to collect more money than they would get without one.

Also would be helpful if you wanted to move up an exchange or two.Don't you think?D.Glenn man has alot of experience with S.E.C. related cases.
It's not like he's a Jonnie Cochran type lawer.


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Glassman
If R Glenn did not have the background he has in securities, I would totally agree with your comment about why most people hire lawyers. However, this particular lawyer has extensive experience in things like mergers, and getting companies in compliance for listing on big boards. I hope we can take comfort in that fact.

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quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
Glassman
If R Glenn did not have the background he has in securities, I would totally agree with your comment about why most people hire lawyers. However, this particular lawyer has extensive experience in things like mergers, and getting companies in compliance for listing on big boards. I hope we can take comfort in that fact.

Notice how secman always suggests that you might be gay if you disagree with him? Hmmmm, I wonder.

Based on the level of frantic bashing, cmkx must be getting ready to fly.


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quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
Based on the level of frantic bashing, cmkx must be getting ready to fly.



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quote:
Originally posted by tradingpennys:
Upside
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Trading
If they do things in the Canadian Gov. like in the U.S., many maps are not updated on a frequent basis. How many years has UC had these claims? Maybe the maps have just not been updated. I noticed that same thing several months back and was concerned. I'm not now though.


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DW
The filings @ registars office are current to about 3 days.
Drilling permits have been granted, in whose name ?
Maybe this is something we could reactivate and get this small answer?
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JUST eMAILED MELVIN
Would it be possible to scan & post the claim & permit to website where current drilling is being done ?
VAN

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Thanks Van. I was just talking about maps being updated. Good idea to have frequent updates posted.
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dwman wrote:

"...and getting companies in compliance for listing on big boards. I hope we can take comfort in that fact."
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dwman, there is only ONE "big board"! No more. NYSE (aka "the" Big Board).

Further, it will be a cold day in hell when CMKX gets listed on the Amex. As I have said before, EARNINGS! They will be lucky to get back on the OTC-BB, but won't be able to do that if they aren't reporting any longer. Look at all those companies with an "E" after their symbol and see how long it takes them to get back to a filing mode. No way it is three months or more, right?

PS: Should have added highwaychild here too, with the post about "moving up an exchange or two".

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Wallace
I used "big board" advisedly in the sense that, to me, AMEX is "big" compared to pink sheets activity. Don't nit pick.

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quote:
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"...and getting companies in compliance for listing on big boards. I hope we can take comfort in that fact."


Wallace... go back and read my post. I DID NOT say that Glenn was working to get us listed. I said he had vast experience in working in such matters with other companies and it could be comforting to some to realize that he is on our team.


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Did JBCak/Byrd/Blueyed get booted again? Haven't seen him here or his other usual haunts in a while.
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Wallace and all bashers....

Perhaps a reassessment is in order.

This is from another board.
Stock Symbol: SGF: TSX-VEN SHORE GOLD INC.
SASKATOON, SK, Sept. 15 /CNW/ - George H. Read, P. Geo., Senior Vice President Exploration, is pleased to announce the sixth set of diamond recoveries from the Star Kimberlite. The diamond recoveries to date total 1,392.83 carats from 12,124 dry tonnes processed. These results are for five kimberlite batches of a total of some 80 to 100 kimberlite batches that will be processed as part of the bulk sampling program on the Star Diamond Project, the aim of which is to recover a parcel of some 3,000 carats for valuation purposes. A total of 1,706 commercial sized diamonds (greater than 1.18 millimetre square mesh screen), collectively weighing 263.01 carats, has been recovered from the treatment of 1,198.88 dry tonnes of kimberlite. Forty-one diamonds greater than one carat have been recovered and the four largest stones are: 14.60, 10.14, 7.68 and 6.23 carats, respectively. In addition, 213 diamonds (3.35 carats) were recovered down to 0.85 millimetre square mesh. The colour of 64 percent of these diamonds has been classified as white, with a further 21 percent classified as off-white.
These five kimberlite batches (of a total of 33 processed) have been mined from the Southeast drive (Batches 22, 24 and 25) and the North drive (Batches 21 and 23) developed from the 235 metre shaft station. All of these kimberlite batches have been recovered from within the Early Joli Fou equivalent kimberlite. Results to date have shown that higher diamond grades are associated with the Early Joli Fou equivalent kimberlite than with the Late Joli Fou equivalent kimberlite. The relationships between these two kimberlites types are illustrated in cross sections available on the Shore Gold website: www.shoregold.com.

Batches 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32 and 12A (all from 235 metre level) have been processed on-site and the concentrates dispatched to the sorting laboratory for final diamond recovery. A total of 13,991 dry tonnes has been processed through the on-site DMS plant. Results from these batches are pending. All batches processed to date are classified as crater facies volcaniclastic kimberlites.

Kimberlite processed and diamond results for five sample batches are listed in the table below. Grades are expressed in carats per hundred tonnes (cpht).


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Batch Location Diamonds Total Grade Largest
No. (metres below Dry Number of (carats) (cpht) Stone
surface) Tonnes Stones (carats)
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21 235 m Level: N drive 226.29 337 32.89 14.53 1.29
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22 235 m Level: SE drive 268.71 460 50.05 18.63 3.41
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23 235 m Level: N drive 248.08 331 45.63 18.39 6.23
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24 235 m Level: SE drive 201.43 460 60.24 29.91 7.68
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25 235 m Level: SE drive 254.37 331 77.55 30.49 14.60
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Total 1,198.88 1,919 266.36 22.22
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The four largest stones are: 14.60 (Batch 25, White), 10.14 (Batch 25,
White), 7.68 (Batch 23, White) and 6.23 (Batch 25, Grey) carats, respectively.
Sixteen diamonds exceed two carats and 41 diamonds exceed one carat, of which
27 are white, 9 are off-white, 3 are grey and 2 are brown. A total of 86
diamonds exceed 0.5 carat. Sixty-four percent of the total diamond parcel is
classified white in colour, with a further 21 percent classified as off-white.
The diamond parcel includes 10 pink, 16 yellow and 6 amber stones. Over 98
percent of the carat weight of this parcel occurs in diamonds greater than
1.18 millimetre square mesh.
Senior Vice President Exploration, George Read, states: "These latest
results include a significant number of large stones and higher grades,
particularly for Batches 24 and 25. The frequency of plus one carat stones in
the Star Kimberlite will have a highly positive effect on the forthcoming
diamond valuation. Results to date indicate an average grade of 15.83 cpht for
the Early Joli Fou equivalent kimberlite (1,198 carats recovered from 7,570
dry tonnes)".
The diamond recovery procedure includes on site processing of kimberlite
through the modular dense media separator (DMS), after which DMS concentrates
are batch fed through an X-ray Flow-sort. In order to ensure the recovery of
low luminosity diamonds, the Flow-sort tailings are processed over a grease
table. Flow-sort and grease table concentrates are transported by a secure
carrier to SGS Lakefield Research for final diamond recovery. The SGS
Lakefield Research process includes drying, screening, magnetic separation,
manual sorting and diamond weighing and description. SGS Lakefield Research is
accredited to the ISO/IEC 17025 standard by the Standards Council of Canada as
a testing laboratory for specific tests.
Senior Vice President Exploration, George Read, Professional Geoscientist
in the Provinces of Saskatchewan and British Columbia, is the Qualified Person
responsible for the verification and quality assurance of analytical results.
The Star Diamond Project is designed to recover a parcel of at least
3,000 carats of diamonds to enable an accurate valuation of the stones. Up to
25,000 tonnes of kimberlite will be recovered from the shaft and drifts and
processed on site to produce this diamond parcel. Shore is a Canadian based
corporation engaged in the acquisition, exploration and development of mineral
properties. Shares of the Company trade on the TSX Venture Exchange under the
trading symbol "SGF".

"The TSX Venture Exchange has not reviewed and does not accept
responsibility for the adequacy or accuracy of this release"


http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/orgDisplay.cgi?okey=14555

For further information

Kenneth E. MacNeill, President & C.E.O.
George Sanders, Vice President Corporate Development
or George H. Read, P. Geo., Vice President Exploration at (306) 664-2202


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dwman wrote:

"...and it could be comforting to some to realize that he is on our team."
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Good luck to being comfortable. "Our team"?
He is CMKX's outside counsel (lawyer). He is also UCAD's outside counsel from what I understand. CMKS and UCAD have had dealings with one another and appear to be continuing those dealings from time to time. I would think that his real "team" is Edwards & Angell"!

PS: And Shore Gold is not CMKX. Nor are they mining the same claim. I suggested that Shore Gold was a good buy some time back.

Got to go now. Talk to you later.

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Oh gosh!!! Shore Gold is not cmkx? Darn. I'm gonna sell all my cmkx. I just KNEW they were one and the same...and I bet Shore Gold is working a claim that is a thousand miles from ours...and I bet R. Glenn didn't buy one share of cmkx. Thanks for looking out for me Wallace. You are better than Bill O'Reilly.
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I listened to the interview of UCAD CEO Rendal Williams by Green Baron TWICE in order to make sure I heard everything Mr. Williams said concerning UCAD's ongoing projects. I'm just paraphrasing a few things that interested me.

In talking about CMKX he states UCAD has several projects (note the "s") planned with CMKX apparently in the future, but are EXTREMELY excited about the area they are presently drilling. He went to Canada and met Urban, because Urban had the permits, mineral rights, and equipment to commence the drilling and a "combined" effort would help all the partners (talking about the other three co's. also).

He stated that UCAD has SECURED the financing for their projects and in addition assisted some "other" (didn't name them)companies with their financing in the same "financing bundle".

He said that UCAD is exercising their option for the additional 10% mineral rights purchase with CMKX.

This is just a little of the information revealed during the interview with Williams and there is a lot more. He did say that his stockholders would be very happy with UCAD's 3Q filing.

I don't have anymore worries about my investment in CMKX, but it sounds like it's going to take some time for everything to develop with the mining. I do think that questions about A/S, O/S, valuation, etc. will come pretty soon.

I would suggest that anyone interested should listen to the interview and just sit back, smile, and forget about these "nay sayers" and let things develop. If anyone thinks that these FIVE companies are not serious about their business then no amount of information is going to convince them otherwise.

I'm happy, contented, and going back to "Lurk". I tried to be as accurate as possible, but this is my own paraphrasing of some of Mr. Williams information. There is a lot of interesting information about the other projects UCAD is involved with in this interview. The link to the interview is on the CMKX board.

The "bashers" can go find something else to "flail" away at!!!!! LOL GLTA

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gmac, when speaking of the Green Baron, you might as well include Dr.D, Zen and Sterling as well as a few of the easily identified posters on this CMKX thread. All the same bent and venues.

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Hey guys, just a post I saw on another board!!


CMKX: Statistics in Exploring.

It doesn't matter if you are sampling for fisheries statistics, or variations in diameter for ball bearings in a manufacturing process stream, or searching for diamonds among millions of acres. Regardless, the science and methods of statistical derivation must be applied to the degree that it is practical, possible, and economically feasible.

"The problem involved with diamond grade estimation is due to the typically small number of (usually small) particles per unit volume (or mass). It is basically a SAMPLING PROBLEM WHERE THE LARGER THE SAMPLE, THE BETTER IS THE GRADE ESTIMATE- BUT THE HIGHER THE COST. A balance must be struck between the cost of the sample collection and processing, and the accuracy of the resulting estimate."

"The preferred size of the sample can be estimated by statistics. A sample size that returns about thirty diamonds (or "stones") will give a "statistically significant" result (THIS IS TRUE OF SAMPLING FISH IN A LAKE, THE HEIGHT OR WEIGHT OF GIRLS AND BOYS OF A GIVEN AGE IN A PARTICULAR SCHOOL DISTRICT, OR WHATEVER) but this may be impractical at the early stages of an evaluation program. In a preliminary sampling program, where there is no past data on the grade of the deposit, a useful starting point could be to use the world average for commercial diamond mining operations as follows:

1) average grade of 50 carats per hundred tonnes (cpht),

2) average diamond size of 0.1 carats per stone (ct/st) and

3) average diamond value of 50 US$/ct.

"on average, in the above example, 5 diamonds should be recovered from each tonne of processed source rock. To recover 30 diamonds we would therefore have to process 6 tonnes of source rock."

We are not there yet with the Smeaton Kimberlite Formation, so far as we know. However, Kensington and/or Shore Gold has sunk some shafts already in the Fort a la Corne area, in order to gain access to several tonnes of source rock, in order to gain a greater statistical sampling base. They would not have done so had their initial drilling results pointed the way to spending that amount of exploration money to further the data base of sampling results. Remember that most of the exploration money for diamonds in the world is going into Canadian exploration. And for good reason.

"Typically, a deposit with a high stone density will be easier to evaluate than a deposit with a low stone density because the sample size required to recover a significant number of stones will be smaller. At the very high grade Argyle Mine in Western Australia, where the mean stone size is small (» 0.08 ct/st),and the stone density is high (» 60 st/t), samples of only one tonne were more than adequate to obtain an initial grade estimate."

"The number of diamonds recovered from a sample will also depend upon the smallest size of particle recovered. In pipe evaluation, the macrodiamond is usually considered to be of a commercial size, ie. greater than about 0.5 mm, and below this size the diamonds are considered microdiamonds and are not usually recovered during commercial mining operations, except in the Sakha (Yakutia - Russian Federation) diamond mining operations."

"However many exploration companies use different definitions of what is a macrodiamond or microdiamond and care should be exercised in using this term; unless it is clearly defined. Australian and North American exploration companies usually use the term microdiamonds for diamonds less than 0.4 or 0.5 mm in size AND USUALLY RECOVERED DURING EARLY STAGES OF AN EXPLORATION PROGRAM".

TAKE CAREFUL NOTICE, FOLKS: WE ONLY HAVE THE RESULTS OF A FEW KILOGRAMS FROM A FEW SMALL DIAMETER DRILL CORES. THERE IS NO WAY A HIGHLY ACCURATE STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT EVALUATION CAN BE DERIVED FROM SUCH A SMALL SAMPLE. ONLY UNTIL WE HAVE PROCESSED AT LEAST 6 TONNES OR SO CAN WE EXPECT A BETTER SAMPLE BASIS FOR STATISTICAL EVALUATION.

Further consider this: If my estimate of a Fort a la Corne Kimberlite formation consisting of about 450 acres and 390 million tonnes is even close, and considering the geological fact that kimberlites occur in clusters, then which of the two following scenarios would you like to find yourself in, if you were a mining company:

1) 54,000 acres of mineral rights....

versus

2) 1.4 million acres of mineral rights.

Even if only 10% of the 1.4 million acres has economically attractive, relatively "accessible" diamondiferous kimberlite near the surface (about 400 feet below the surface or so), then we are talking about 140,000 acres of kimberlite. If I am even close in my estimates of the tons of kimberlites that kind of territory represents, then we are talking huge amounts of diamonds, potentially.

Not to mention the gold, platinum, palladium, rhodium, and other valuable minerals that are often associated and occur along beside diamondiferous mineral formations.

Locked and Loaded and Ready to Rock.

Tally Ho!

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To "assume" that 10% of our claims are pure kimberlite is ridiculous!
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quote:
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To "assume" that 10% of our claims are pure kimberlite is ridiculous!


Don't know why with Goldak and TDEM results.


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quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
gmac, when speaking of the Green Baron, you might as well include Dr.D, Zen and Sterling as well as a few of the easily identified posters on this CMKX thread. All the same bent and venues.

GLTA


Wallace: I listened to RENDAL WILLIAMS and what he had to say. You might try that!! I don't give a "flip" about Green Baron, could care less what they say. Rendal Willams obviously has a mission, and he is fulfilling what his shareholders want him to do!! My opinion is that we (CMKX, but maybe not AS CMKX) will benefit from everything UCAD does now, and in the future, if you listen closely during his talk he alludes to that. This is just MOA!!! You are just being foolish if you think Roger Glenn and Edwards & Angell are just there to keep them legal, and I think you know that!!! GLTY

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how about some statistics on how often 2 kimberlite pipes right next to each other produce the same results????
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A long read but interesting...don't know if anyone picked it up yet.
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St. George Metals revived to join pink sheet promotion

2004-09-16 09:12 ET - Street Wire

See Street Wire (U-SGGM) St. George Minerals Inc

by Lee Webb

St. George Metals Inc., a recently revived Nevada-incorporated shell that can trace its lineage to the former Vancouver Stock Exchange (VSE), has become the latest patron of Urban Casavant's pink sheet company, CMKM Diamonds Inc. St. George will ante up $10-million (U.S.) and a whopping 200 billion restricted shares for a five-per-cent stake "in any and all mineral claims" held by CMKM. (All amounts are in U.S. dollars unless otherwise indicated.)

As with many things involving CMKM, exactly how many mineral claims the company holds is a matter of some conjecture. Based on sketchy information provided by the company, it appears that CMKM may have varying interests in claims covering between 1.4 million acres and 1.9 million acres in Saskatchewan.

Most of the company's prodigious promotional and modest exploration efforts centre on its heavily touted diamond prospects in the Fort a la Corne area where there are two advanced diamond projects, one owned by a group headed by De Beers Canada Corp. and Kensington Resources Ltd. and the other owned by Shore Gold Inc.

Notwithstanding the many years and many millions of dollars spent by the De Beers and Kensington group and Shore Gold, neither of those projects has yet been established as economically viable. Nonetheless, they provide some promotional mileage for CMKM, which purports to be "racing to find more diamonds" in Saskatchewan.

It remains to be seen whether the cash infusion from St. George will give some traction to the racy CMKM promotion, widely touted as the "stock play of a lifetime."

CMKM reports that it has already received $5-million in two equal payments from St. George, the most recent on Sept. 13, and expects two additional payments of $2.5-million over the next 30 days.

At this point, the source of that $10-million is a mystery, and it may well remain so. Like CMKM, the resuscitated St. George trades on the unregulated pink sheets, free from the burden of even rudimentary disclosure requirements.

Another CMKM backer, U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc., trades on the OTC Bulletin Board and is subject to reporting requirements with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).

So far, U.S. Canadian Minerals has peeled off 7.5 million shares in exchange for five per cent of CMKM's mineral claims and has made two cash payments totalling $5.5-million under a one-year option agreement allowing it to purchase an additional 10-per-cent interest for $15-million.

Nearly penniless U.S. Canadian Minerals, flagged with a going-concern warning, executed an initial $3-million purchase under its option agreement with CMKM on July 28. An Aug. 23 SEC filing disclosed that the source of the $3- million was a subscription agreement for 600,000 shares of U.S. Canadian Minerals priced at $5 per share from an otherwise unidentified "related party to CMKM Diamonds."

After announcing on Sept. 8 that it had secured a further $3-million by way of a private placement, U.S. Canadian Minerals doled out another $2.5-million to CMKM on Sept. 9. The participant or participants in the Sept. 8 financing have not been even vaguely identified yet, inviting speculation among some skeptics that a party related to CMKM may have been involved in that private placement, too.

Meanwhile, questions have also surfaced regarding a relationship between Mr. Casavant's CMKM and the company's newest patron, St. George. According to a recent article by Dow Jones reporter Carol S. Remond, however, Mr. Casavant claims that he has nothing to do with St. George and knows nothing about it being a dormant shell.

The recently revived St. George is now headquartered in Vegreville, Alberta, a farming community with a large Ukrainian presence and several nearby Hutterite colonies. With a population of approximately 5,800, Vegreville is not known as a financial hub, but it does lay claim to being the home of the world's largest Easter egg.

Vegreville is reportedly also home to Mark Giebelhaus, president of St. George and the only identified officer of the company at this point. A directory search returns a surprising 21 Vegreville telephone listings for the surname Giebelhaus, but no public listing for Mark Giebelhaus.

St. George's investor relations spokesperson Vicki Curran also lives in Vegreville, as does her father, Victor Casavant, who happens to be Urban Casavant's brother. In a Stockwatch interview, Ms. Curran readily acknowledged that she was Urban Casavant's niece.

According to Ms. Curran, Victor Casavant is not involved with St. George. While he may not be directly involved with St. George, it does appear that he is at least "close" to the play.

A call to Victor Casavant's telephone number and a request to speak with Vicki brought the response that she was on another phone. Moreover, it appears that St. George at least briefly used a Vegreville postal box that has also been used by Victor Casasvant, including appearing below his signature on a 1995 settlement agreement with the Alberta Securities Commission.

Victor Casavant evidently ran afoul of Alberta securities regulators in connection with an illegal distribution of shares of a non-reporting issuer, Striker Minerals Ltd. The terms of the settlement agreement, a $1,000 (Canadian) fine and an acknowledgement of "the requirement to be more diligent when raising capital in the future," suggest that it was considered a relatively minor breach of securities regulations.

Ms. Curran told Stockwatch that she is new to St. George, but has about 13 years of experience in investor relations with other companies, both public and private. She would not disclose the names of the companies she was previously involved with, however, telling Stockwatch that the information would be provided in press releases issued over the next week.

While reluctant to discuss her specific background when contacted by Stockwatch, Ms. Curran offered some information regarding her former husband without any prompting at all. According to Ms. Curran, Kevin Curran served a brief stint as investor relations representative for Northern Star Resources Inc.

It is not clear why Ms. Curran volunteered that information regarding her ex-husband, but perhaps it had something to do with the fact that VSE-listed Northern Star was the successor to Petro Plus Inc., a company once headed by her uncle, Urban Casavant.

Mr. Casavant took charge of Petro Plus in November of 1995 when the stock price was languishing at about 15 cents. Under Mr. Casavant's guidance the share price climbed above $1 within a matter of months, amidst much nattering in news releases about "visible gold" in drill samples from one of the company's properties.

Petro Plus's stock price subsequently collapsed as quickly as it had risen and Mr. Casavant abruptly and rather intriguingly parted company with Petro Plus on Oct. 25, 1996. Petro Plus, which was halted at the time of Mr. Casavant's surprise departure, did not even bid him a fond farewell.

Three weeks after Mr. Casavant either jumped or was shoved out of Petro Plus, the company, which was still halted, served up a few more details about the affair including a share sale agreement between Mr. Casavant and the company's new president, Randy Studer. Under the agreement reportedly signed shortly after his departure, Mr. Casavant sold more than 1.9 million shares and more than one million warrants exercisable at 20 cents per share to Mr. Studer.

"Contemporaneously with the share sale agreement, an agreement was entered into between the company and Urban Casavant and certain extended family members to terminate any formal relationships or positions (excepting the rights under certain mineral claim option agreements)," the company went on to report in its Nov. 13, 1996, news release.

Petro Plus did not identify the "certain extended family members" whose formal relationships or positions with the company were terminated, so there is no way of knowing whether any of them are among the 22 Casavants disclosed as holding shares in CMKM. In any event, regulatory filings and various court documents related to litigation involving the Casavants suggest that family members are frequently associated with Mr. Casavant's enterprises.

Petro Plus closed out its news release with a rather curious statement.

"The transaction between Randy Studer and Urban Casavant was a positive agreement for all concerned and will now enable the company to focus on the business of mineral exploration," the company declared, perhaps raising the question of just what business the junior exploration company had been focusing on during Mr. Casavant's tenure.

As it turned out, the newly enabled focus did little for the company or the share price. With the stock changing hands at a Canadian penny in January of 1999, Petro Plus consolidated its shares on the basis of one new share for each five old shares and changed its name to Northern Star. Just over a year later, with the stock trading at five Canadian cents, Northern Star executed a similar rollback and changed its name to Odaat Inc.

Odaat, still under the direction of Mr. Studer, limped along until January of this year before executing yet another share consolidation, this time on the basis of one new share for each four old shares, and changed its name to Explor Resources Inc. Explor trades thinly and sporadically, sometimes going days between trades. It last changed hands on Sept. 9, registering a volume of 250 shares and closing at 34 Canadian cents.

While the Petro Plus affair is long behind Mr. Casavant, he at least briefly teamed up with his Petro Plus successor and current Explor president Mr. Studer again last year. On Aug. 27, 2003, CMKM awarded a reported $3-million mineral exploration and drilling contract to Mr. Studer's privately held Durama Enterprises.

Just how long that ballyhooed contract lasted and how much money changed hands, if any, are open questions. CMKM's last mention of Durama came in an Oct. 30, 2003, news release announcing that the company's Fort a la Corne diamond exploration had been delayed due "to unexpected magnetic storms caused by 'sunspots.'"

Meanwhile, some of the unanswered questions regarding CMKM's latest associate, St. George, should be answered over the next few days, according to Ms. Curran.

Among other things, Ms. Curran told Stockwatch that information regarding St. George's "brand new board of directors" would be released this week.

Ms. Curran would not disclose whether St. George had already raised the full $10-million needed to complete the announced deal with CMKM. Remarking that "it's definitely raising some flags to the investors," Ms. Curran said the "explanation will be in all the reports" to be issued this week.

According to Ms. Curran, "a handful of press releases" to be issued this week will provide the background of the company, where it is going, "levels of priority" and other information. A new Web site is also scheduled to be operational this week.

"I kind of feel like I'm helpless right now just because there is not a whole lot I can release unless it's public knowledge," Ms. Curran said.

At this point, there is very little information in the public domain regarding the revived shell.

According to company information provided on the pink sheets Web site, St. George had approximately 16.9 million shares outstanding as of Sept. 6. With a staggering 200 billion restricted shares comprising part of the deal with CMKM, that figure will see an astronomical revision. St. George is authorized to issue 950 billion shares, so the outstanding share total could be subject to more massive revisions.

While such lofty share figures are beyond the experience of most investors, they are old hat to shareholders of CMKM, which recently bumped its authorized share total to 800 billion. Based on information provided by the company regarding a dividend-in-specie distribution of 7.5 million shares of U.S. Canadian Minerals scheduled for Sept. 24, CMKM has more than 779 billion shares outstanding.

Notwithstanding the fact that the dividend ratio was first provided to regulators as required under U.S. securities regulations by CMKM's much touted lawyer, D. Roger Glenn, and subsequently revised by the company at about the time it raised its authorized shares to 800 billion, many of the hundreds of cult-like Internet followers of Mr. Casavant's promotion dismiss any suggestion that CMKM has issued more than 779 billion shares.

Indeed, some CMKM shareholders are prepared to argue, speculate and theorize at painfully convoluted length that there are really only a few billion shares outstanding. Others go even further, claiming that there are no real shares outstanding at all.

Given that fantasies trump facts among many of the starry-eyed CMKM shareholders, the dearth of information regarding the revived St. George may be much more of a boon than a bane for the company's imaginative devotees.

While there is little in the way of information regarding the current St. George, there is a considerable amount of historical information available regarding the former VSE-listed company. Some select and dated snippets regarding St. George caused quite a tizzy among CMKM's cultish followers.

Legend and History

Just how the former VSE-listed company came to be named is probably lost in the dustbin of history, but many people will undoubtedly associate the name with the legendary dragon slayer and patron saint of England, St. George.

The notion of dragon slaying may resonate well with many CMKM shareholders, particularly the band of loyal followers who congregate by the hundreds on PalTalk, an Internet chat site that provides participants with both text and audio communication.

Among the "dragons" that fantasy-loving CMKM shareholders would like to see vanquished are the market makers they believe are shorting this sub-penny pink sheet stock. The fantastic estimates of the size of the imagined short position, served up repeatedly by the PalTalk faithful, range from hundreds of billions of shares to a trillion or more.

The belief in a huge short position is evidently shared by CMKM's investor relations representative, Melvin O'Neill, affectionately known as Uncle Melvie. Mr. O'Neill is a frequent participant in the PalTalk palavers; indeed, he checks in almost daily.

"This company is being shorted to the bejeesus," Mr. O'Neill proclaimed on Aug. 12, much to the delight of the assembled throng. He went on to claim that Mr. Casavant and Mr. Glenn, the company's highly touted lawyer, are both convinced of the same thing.

According to the CMKM faithful, Mr. Glenn will be taking care of the shorting "problem," and many believe that Vegreville-based St. George will play a role in that trumpeted problem-solving exercise.

While the popularized exploits of St. George are widely known, including Disneyfied tales of his legendary dragon slaying in England, the actual historical figure never set foot in England. He was martyred in Palestine around 300 AD and pilgrims and crusaders carried the already embellished stories of his deeds back to England several centuries later.

Among the accounts of St. George that eventually found their way into manuscripts are tales that he was put to death three times, chopped up and buried, but resuscitated to carry on with his mission of converting heathens to the true faith. While the substance of those tales is generally discounted, some parallels might be drawn with the corporate history of the newly revived St. George.

St. George Minerals Inc., which was little more than a garden-variety VSE-listed junior mining company, began trading more than two decades ago. Among the early participants in St. George, however, were two people whose names have caused a tizzy among the excitable CMKM followers: Stewart Blusson; and Ross Blusson.

Stewart Blusson has near-legendary status among those familiar with Canadian diamond exploration. Along with the perhaps more widely known Chuck Fipke, Stewart Blusson discovered the diamond deposit in the Northwest Territories that became Canada's first diamond mine, the Ekati mine.

Alas, at least for the excitable CMKM fans, Stewart Blusson's association with St. George Minerals was fleeting and distant. He is recorded as receiving shares of St. George Minerals to satisfy a debt, something that occurred long before the company completed its makeover into St. George Metals in January of 1991.

Ross Blusson's association with St. George Minerals was more extensive and direct. He, too, received shares for debt, but he also participated in a private placement and served a stint as a company director.

Alas, again, at least for the CMKM fans excited by the very mention of the name, Ross Blusson was long gone before St. George Minerals executed its 1991 transformation into St. George Metals.

The liquidation of St. George Minerals and the amalgamation with its U.S. subsidiary was proposed by the company's five-member board of directors, which did not include anyone with the name Blusson, in January of 1990. The proposal received shareholder approval at the annual general meeting on May 31, 1990.

The liquidation and consolidation was consummated on Dec. 31, 1990, and St. George Minerals was delisted from the VSE on Jan. 29, 1991.

With St. George Minerals laid to rest, St. George Metals began trading on the VSE on Feb. 1, 1991. The resuscitated St. George Metals boasted seven directors, none of whom were named Blusson.

In less than a year after being called to trade on the VSE, St. George Metals racked up 12 delinquent filer notices before being cease traded by the British Columbia Securities Commission.

The company cleaned up its filings and the cease trade order was rescinded on Dec. 30, 1991, but less than six months later it was again being cited as a delinquent filer.

St. George soldiered on for a time, but the cash-strapped company ceased operations at its Dean Mine in Nevada in September of 1993. After tallying another eight delinquent filer notices, it was finally suspended from trading in 1995 and then ignominiously delisted from the VSE early in 1996.

Before its recent awakening, the shell traded sporadically on the pink sheets, eking out only occasional trades over the past year, most at one-10th of a penny. That changed rather dramatically following the Sept. 2 news release regarding the $10-million deal with CMKM.

On Sept. 8, St. George hit a dizzying high of 75 cents before settling back to 35 cents on a volume of more than 650,000 shares. More than 2.4 million shares changed hands the following day, but the price slid a bit further, ending the session at 26 cents. With just over one million shares trading on Sept. 10, St. George climbed back up to 37 cents.

The trading volume has dropped off this week as investors, including CMKM's faithful and excitable shareholders, await the promised announcements from St. George. None of the handful of information-packed news releases that were to be issued this week has yet appeared.

With a more modest 57,530 shares changing hands, St. George closed at 44 cents on Sept. 15.

Meanwhile, CMKM's share price has not enjoyed any lift at all from the deal with St. George, much to the consternation of the company's faithful followers. Indeed, the share price has been under some pressure, dipping as low as two-100ths of a penny over the past couple of days.

With more than 2.1 billion shares changing hands, and thanks to yet another of the rather frequent 50,000-share trades at the daily high logged at the bell, CMKM closed at four-100ths of a penny on Sept. 15.

The saga will continue.

Comments regarding this article may be sent to lwebb@stockwatch.com.


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