quote:Originally posted by penguinking: OK JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT QBID IS GETTING ALOT OF PR A GUY AT WORK SAID HE HEARD ABOUT QBID ON THE RADIO THIS MORNING AND A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE IN ALABAMA HEARD ABOUT QBID ON FOX NEWS.... $$$$$
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Something that I've been thinking about...and it may very well be a generation gap thing...but here goes.
From my first knowledge of the Q I've been under the assumption it was to be a "family" type channel with no porn, or if porn it would be very late at night like some of the other channels.
My take on MTV is and always has been that it's not a family channel. And IMHO, that's a whole different concept. I believe this is in our favor. I have many friends in the gay community and they're wanting a good, focused channel that they can be proud of. Is my concept wrong? If I'm right, then even if MTV stated their intent was to have a wholesome type format, would it be accepted as fact.
I would really like some opinions on this. If I've got a valid point, then would that not be a good marketing strategy?
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Wife just told me George Michael was gay. News to me. I guess my ears are more open to them now.
The best is when I caused an accident in San Francisco because a gay guy was starring at me in the car. He tried to flirt with me so I looked away, turned to him again and he was still starring and then bang. Nobody knows but the 2 friends I was with.
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MTV LOGO WTF? QTV QTELEVISION !!!!!!!!!! THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT QTV WTF IS GOING ON ??????
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I BELIEVE THE ONES COMING OUT FIRST WILL MAKE THE CUT ITS LIKE A RUN TO THE FINISH LINE WE ARE THERE ALREADY AND MTV JUST STARTED TO TAKE OFF WELL I THINK ITS TOO LATE FOR THEM.QTELEVISION WILL ENDURE AND CONQUER.QTELEVISION ALREADY AT THE FINISH LINE LAUGHING Posts: 156 | Registered: Apr 2004
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Hi everybody. I remember something from CEO/Rene, like This is a swing. hold../Competition is no problem (at convention site)....
Indeed. There are so very many straight channels:Namely. ABC,NBC, HISTORY, DISNEY,etc.etc.Besides, there is so big buying power of GAY.QBID needs to compete with self. Just because there are disclosure hard data and so we are panic?
My thinking is: Soft launch is set for CARRIERS'/ADVERTISERS' better decision making, starting only after soft launch. Our anticipations come a little AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.It's just a lack of confidence due to QBID's previous failure I assume.
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You know, I'm a bit upset that Deveny and QBID haven't done more to put us in the limelite also... Who knows, maybe they have a reason for it... A good reason.
However, I do feel that they could get some real good publicity out of this if tweaked in the right way... For example: a PR could read "QTelevision Network steals MTV's thunder and becomes the first GL network" ... They can even make Viacom look bad (if they wanted to go this route) with PRs like "QTelevision Network had the foresight to see a valuable market in the GL community years before Viacom. Shortly before QTV Network announced an official launch, Viacom had decided there was no buying power in the GL community (Followed up with segments from that PR that Viacom put out about missing out on this oppurtunity before deciding this was a lucrative billion dollar venture).
So... I have to believe that Deveny has a fighting spirit and thier mouths are salivating at the chance to beat the big pickle... So we'll see if size does matter... GOOO LITTLE PICKLE!
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quote:Originally posted by Bialystock: There could now be a wave of "regular" investors reading about "Logo" and saying to themselves "Oh, it's MTV and Viacom. Darn, can't invest there, they're already up." Then they spend a few minutes looking for other stocks in this suddenly hot "sector" and find Q with its dashing new website and hot new (to them) PR. Here's hoping anyway.
Slow tick to .013 just now. Think I'll go to the movies.
"Dashing" I love it, rhymes with "smashing" and both can be used interchangably!
quote:Originally posted by realityinc21: ok folks--The Q hits 2.00-- 2 weeks in Maine. Vacation capital of the world. Kennebunk Port, ME 15 miles. Boston, MASS 80 miles. Rochester, NH 30 miles. Ogunquit Beach, ME 18 miles. Portland, ME 60 miles. Camdon, ME 140 miles. White River Junction, VT 4-5 hours drive. Atlantic City, NJ 7 hours drive.
Live on the Q. The new reality show "daytraders dream vacation."
Wake up to the beautiful lake clear natural spring fed lake water (stand with water to your knee's and see your feet.)
EAT ALL THE FRESH COLD WATER SEAFOOD YOUR LITTLE HEARTS CAN HOLD, SWIM, DRINK, LOUNGE, FISHING, BOATING, SKIING, TUBE FESTS, BARBEQUE'S, VACATION, TRAVEL AND ENJOY. WE CAN GO UP TO THE "MOUNTAIN" AND DO SOME SKEET SHOOTING. ( I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE BEEN POSTING ON THIS BOARD LONG ENOUGH TO REMEMBER THE STORY ABOUT ME COLLECTING GUNS AND MY FIRST EXPERIENCE SHOOTING A M-11--RAPID FIRE--WITH A 30 ROUND CLIP UP ON THE "MOUNTAIN") IT WAS PRETTY FUNNY. ANYWAY, VACATION ON ME. MIGHT HAVE TO BRING A COUPLE OF SLEEPING BAGS. LOL
I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME I GOT ARRESTED IN MAINE. THERE HAD BEEN A STORM AND MY FRIENDS AND I WERE ALL DRUNK AND FULL OF DRUGS AND GOT THE MUNCHIES. WE CRUISED THE BEACH FOR LOBSTER TRAPS THAT WASHED UP. WE WERE SCOOPING UP LOBSTERS RIGHT AND LEFT. GOT BACK TO MY HOUSE AND WERE EATING LOBSTER, EGGS, BACON AND FRENCH TOAST WHEN THE POLICE ARRIVED. SOMEONE HAD TAKEN DOWN MY LICENSE PLATE #. IT WASN'T PRETTY....I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS A CRIME. PROBABLY WOULD HAVE DONE IT ANYWAY. JUST WOULD HAVE PARKED DOWN THE STREET AND BEEN A LITTLE MORE QUIET. LOL THE TWO OFFICERS ACCUALLY SAT DOWN AND ATE BEFORE THEY ARRESTED ME FOR TRESPASSING AND PUBLIC THEFT OF PRIVATE PROPERTY (OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT). LOL
THAT WOULD BE A BLAST..LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN.
I WATCHED SOME PEOPLE SELLING THE STOCK TICK BY TICK AND I WONDERED WHAT MUST BE GOING ON IN THIER MINDS? I HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF INSIDE THE BOX....I APPRECIATE THE VALUE OF THEIR AWARENESS OF THEIR OWN FINANCIAL TOLERANCE LEVEL. WITHOUT YING, YOU HAVE NO YANG.
INSANITY IS REALITY
I MIGHT BE LIVING PROOF............LOL
Diana you hit the nail squarely on the head regarding what to do in Maine, minus the stealing of lobsters, leave that to the professionals, LOL. Every weekend is like a small vacation, I usually go to Bar Harbor/Acadia Park, visit Portland, next month I'll climb Mt. Kithadin, will be too tired to skeet shoot, LOL. I'll spend a couple of weekends at Old Orchard Beach this summer. When you're really drunk with the rest of the fools after the bars close and you go out walking on the beach at night and you go in the ice cold water, it doesn't feel cold at all its pretty comfortable. During the day in the hot sun its ice cold! So I only swim late at night, LOL. Oh and don't forget Ogunquit is the gay capital of Maine, great place for QBID to send a camera crew this summer to capture the many sights, LOL.
quote:Originally posted by spence8254: its kinda wierd, the QBID hotline sounded more promising to me than the PR
I sent QBID a E-Mail this morning saying PR was all FLUFF; Here is their reply to me tonight. 5/26/2004 10:01:26 PM
To: info@qtelevision.com Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 7:23 AM Subject: PR today is ALL OLD NEWS all FLUFF !!!!!!!!
Your Q-Channel is suppose to Launch in only 30-Days and yet NO One outside of us shareholders even heard of this Q-Channel yet. ?? Look at MTV-Viacom they are all over the News, CNN Fox news everywhere today braging they will start a all Gay Channel next February no less and they get all the Billion dollar FREE Publicity today. What is Deveney doing to get the word out to 20-Million gays that this Q-Channel even exists yet ?? I hope to see the Q-Channel advertised all over the Nation or who in the world will subscribe to it, if NO One even knows about it but us QBID shareholders. One last thing the PR today was all FLUFF with all OLD news we already know about, either give us a Great PR with Meat to it, or do us all a favor and do not give us any PR. look at the share price back down to 0.0012 today. should tell you the News today is all FLUFF. Thanks for your time.
This was QBID's reply to me today: Re: PR today is ALL OLD NEWS all FLUFF !!!!!!!! Date: 5/26/2004 8:02:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: info@qtelevision.com To: Ronxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Received from Internet: I have passed your message on to the executives here along with many other emails saying the exact same thing. I hope they listen.
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"With affiliated networks MTV, VH1, Spike, Nickelodeon and CBS, Viacom has muscle in the industry that startup companies can't match. That's a lesson that Pridevision TV, a gay channel in Canada that has unsuccessfully tried to expand in the United States, has learned. "
This is MESSED UP!!!!
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I guess that I will get in on this. If you own this stock, I don't think you would be in here right near soft launch down playing your own stock causing it to go no where and if you do own it and are doing that, then how do you ever expect to make money. Where were you people when the stock wasn't doing anything. It just curious that some of you come in and start this when the stock is getting ready to run. With that said....
I think everyone is looking at this all wrong. For one thing, who says you can't have 2 gay stations. I mean there are many targeted networks out there and more then one per target group.
Second thing. I really don't think these 2 company's are going to compete with each other anyway as far as content. Yes, they are going after they same target group but Viacom has to worry about image. Reruns of Will and Grace type stuff but I think they may stay away from more controversal subjects, QBID being a pay service can give the gay and lesbian community more of what they want in up to date information and documentaries on issues relating to them. I feel that there is no harm with Viacom getting involved with this. Matter of fact it might bring QBID to light with free ads once they start there soft launch then hard launch that they may not have gotten any other way. JMHO
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I'm so dissapointed with the PR's given, with all the newspapers around, why isn't QBID splattered everywhere with a launch in just a few days. I guess we should be counting how many TV's the shareholders have since we are the only ones who know about qbid. It might justify the number of viewers Q will probably have. VIACOM has so much press right now, they make it seem like LOGO's launch is closer than Q's. Here in houston who's got the press "VIACOM" http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/features/2591772 Come on Deveneny, arent u supposed to be the masters of representation & pr's. Lets all get the word out, seems deveneny needs the help.
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Rick- this is an open forum for stockholders to discuss, share their opinions and concerns. Its not just a place to through out fluff and/or false optimism if there isnt any at the moment. WE are the stockholders and our voices should be heard.
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I agree that the news about MTV does give us competition but thats ok. I agree with those of us that say there can be 2 gay tv stations. Think about the many different movie channels. HBO,SHOWTIME,STARZ,CINEMAX AND OTHERS. You cant watch the Sopranos or Deadwood on showtime and you cant watch Queer as folk on HBO. People like each for their original programming. I think having some competition will make QTV work harder to put out Quailty programming. just my opinion but I think Competition is a good thing for us.
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: Bad Thing: CNN's 2 minute report at the close of the Headline News tonight titled "LOGO A GO-GO" with no mention of Q, just Mtv's groundbreaking in television.
Those are some very valid concerns, and the weak coverage on the PR is bothersome as well. ~BB
There's one way to squash any concern around Viacom's MTV stealing our thunder. Matter of fact there's a way to squash nay concerns period. I've been saying it for months now. So just in case anyone forgot,,,
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I don't own this stock but I must say that you have a very interesting thread. One thing I keep seeing are the terms "soft launch" and "hard launch". What is the difference between the two? Oh, and one other phrase, "chocolate pickles". What's up with that?
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Watching Letterman and he just did a spoof on LOGO- The new GAY TELEVISION CHANNEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Watching Letterman and he jsut did a spoof on LOGO- The new GAY TELEVISION CHANNEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The chocolate pickles are sold by the advertiser on their website: http://www.qtelevision.com go the advertisers link and there will be a click banner for a chocolate store. Click on the banner and you'll be at the store that sells those chocolate pickles.
As for soft launch, I think it's when the channel is offered for free on a few stations to stoke people's interest. The hard launch would be the time when they show their regular programming and people pay for it. I'm not entirely sure so anyone can correct me if they want.
quote:Originally posted by Upside: I don't own this stock but I must say that you have a very interesting thread. One thing I keep seeing are the terms "soft launch" and "hard launch". What is the difference between the two? Oh, and one other phrase, "chocolate pickles". What's up with that?
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Hey everyone. I've been reading this last page of posts and guess what, Enough already. Mtv is front and center and we're not Who cares. The attention span of america is 2.2 sec, so any talk or press about a gay channel is talk or press for us. When we launch people will say I remember hearing about that. Not who is Q I thought is was going to be a ViaCom network? We should do this or Dev should do that, i'm just a simple printer from MN but I do know this, no one on this board including me knows how to launch a network, or bring a new network into the public eye. I know this because Frank didn't hire any of us. Most people on this tread are holding long, so this little Viacom speedbump in the long run doesn't mean much, we're all waiting for a jump in pps, that will happen once we launch! Come July we'll all be asking, whats the best way to get some of my QBID $$$ bhind this Logo. You know why? Because gay is hot. Gay sells. Gay makes money. Not alot we can do until July so just relax and enjoy the ride. Bob the superstar orange dog Queers!
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An important issue is the backlash for advertisers. Every story that mentions Logo also mentions that since it is advertiser-supported it will have a huge hurdle to overcome and that groups of people have promised to boycott the advertisers that support it.
The gay issue is still too hot for a mainstream channel. I think they are just stoking the fire in anticipation.
--> Our Qtv is approaching it the right way, as a paid subscription, flying under the radar and just getting it on air, and that is their initial KEY to success. LAUNCH.<-- ~BB
quote:Originally posted by new2: SCREW MTV ****T CHANNEL
85% of the gay community supports products marketed to them. 65% of them are willing to pay more to get that product... MTV is all about the money... it will be easier for them to make a cchannel but everyone knows that qtelevision is made by the gay community for the gay community... we have a leg up *no pun intended) on mtv... IMHO they can only do good for us... GLTA
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just look at how satelite radio has done. two companies XM and Sirius. now XM was the first one out of the gate and i think it's clearly ahead of the point where Sirius is (eventhough i like sirius better) the same is capable of happening here. q television first out of the gate and does better business...what'd you guys think?
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Letterman even had something to say about LOGO.
Well me'thinks I will play somthing else till hard launch. Any ideas? I really don't see Qbid doing anything till then. I will buy more when the dip comes.
Assuming they're all live by next year, which proposed queer cable channel are you most likely to watch?
here! (pay per view) 1% MTV's Logo (basic cable) 60% PrideVision (premium cable) 11% Triangle Television (premium cable) 8% Some other LGBT cable channel 1% None of the above/don't have cable 18%
quote:Originally posted by GeckoVision: everyone.. VOTE for Q!!! tell your friends http://www.planetout.com
Poll at the bottom, current standings:
Today's PNO Poll
Assuming they're all live by next year, which proposed queer cable channel are you most likely to watch?
here! (pay per view) 1% MTV's Logo (basic cable) 60% PrideVision (premium cable) 11% Triangle Television (premium cable) 8% Some other LGBT cable channel 1% None of the above/don't have cable 18%
Went and voted. Now 57% to 13%. This goes to show that the public doesn't know about QTV or the Triangle Television Network. However, they do know about MTV and the news for LOGO. Also, do you think that the words "basic cable" and "premium cable" have anything to do with how people are voting? Some people just look at it like, "I don't have to spend more a month". QTV has to hit it hard with advertising and show it can run with the big dogs. Or we will all be staying on the porch.
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Who cares. The attention span of america is 2.2 sec, so any talk or press about a gay channel is talk or press for us. When we launch people will say I remember hearing about that. Not who is Q I thought is was going to be a ViaCom network? We should do this or Dev should do that, i'm just a simple printer from MN but I do know this, no one on this board including me knows how to launch a network, or bring a new network into the public eye. I know this because Frank didn't hire any of us. Most people on this tread are holding long, so this little Viacom speedbump in the long run doesn't mean much, we're all waiting for a jump in pps, that will happen once we launch! Come July we'll all be asking, whats the best way to get some of my QBID $$$ bhind this Logo. You know why? Because gay is hot. Gay sells. Gay makes money. Not alot we can do until July so just relax and enjoy the ride.
