quote:Originally posted by betting babe: Whiz, Just wondering where you got this figure? Was it from the signal test this weekend or PR? thx, ~BB
[QUOTE]Originally posted by whizknock: [b]ONE HALF TRILLION TARGETED AUDIENCE!
Consider if we only see 1% of that in revenue! Even if all 15 billion registered shares were outstanding we will easily see more than a buck a share if we only turn .1% of that $500,000,000,000 Billion in revenue!
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Babe!
This number Half a Trillion dollars or another way of saying it is $500,000,000,000. 500 billion dollars is the estimated disposable income of the approx 20 million G/L community in the US.
This number Half a Trillion dollars or another way of saying it is $500,000,000,000. 500 billion dollars is the estimated disposable income of the approx 20 million G/L community in the US.
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Is it possible for Cox and Comcast to know exactly how many people were watching Saturday? Has anyone seen any comments from someone who is gay or lesbian and saw the test Saturday. Straight people seemed to liked it , maybe we will get straight subscribers as well?
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quote:Originally posted by Booty Quest: Whiz, I think she means the 15 billion shares.
Sorry! I do not know that for a fact but I believe there are 15 billion shares registered. Half of them were supposed to be on the shelf. They were authorised but not issued. I could be wrong but I just like using a worse case senario so I don't have any illusions.
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The reason I asked if anyone has heard of Bill Craig in association with Qtv is that a company he controls bought Pridevision's operations- not rights to their program development- for $2.6 mil in December 2003. As stated, Pridevision retained their rights to develop programming outside of Canada & a 10% interest in Canadian operations.
Bill Craig started an unsuccessful television network broadcast on broadband around 2000 (like over the internet). It had issues with copyrights, namely that they were redirecting television broadcast signals without paying the original broadcaster.
He developed software called iWall which can control the broadcast area of a signal and determine the coutry of origin. Stated in the NY Times (June 2, 2000 - Toronto)
--> The iWall system uses "third party" techniques similar to those used by satellite television transmissions that can be received in the United States but not in Canada, Mr. Craig said. The software will be able to identify where a viewer is located and block those computer users in the United States. He said he would not discuss the software in more detail while the copyright was pending.
We've all questioned the reaction of anti-Q people and guessed that by making Qtv a subscription channel they can avoid the FCC censorship. I question if this iWall software can be used to control the signal broadcast of Qtv (I know nothing about how tv signals work) and can, PERHAPS, also determine the country of origin where the person is watching?
They do seem to be aligning themselves for International broadcasting. And if Bill Craig still (he must) have the 2.6 mil ownership of Pridevision's operations,, this could bring his business endeavors together.
As a matter of fact, Bill Craig states in an interview:
--> Q: Are there pay-per-view or subscription models possible with this?
A: Oh yeah, if we pull this off, it's going to dramatically alter program distribution on the Internet. Now the conventional programming is going to get on because the problem even Jack Valenti's people had was, as soon as you go over the Internet, it's all over the world. So they're being dumped into a market, they don't want to be dumped into. So they want to have some level of control, so we are proposing to give them that control. With that control they will have an amazing ability to start exploiting the distribution of their service to certain countries. So in other words, a CBS can go on ICAN and distribute their programming to just inside the U.S. Because in the past, the rights holders say "No no no, you can't put it on, because it'll up in Hong Kong." Well this system will get rid of all of that.
Pure speculation. Just brainstorming. And wondering... ~BB
But they also only have 82.4 million O/S shares compared to Qbids 8 billion. Sorry but no way to compare this to QBID just from pps.
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: If anyone would like to know, comparitively, what Pridevision's parent company, Headline Media Group, trades for:
It went as high as $1.00 before they announced the sale of Pridevision.
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I don't know why everyone wants to compare a company to another company without doing research. Price per share means nothing when you leave out outstand shares.
I think QBID is going up. I bought more last week hoping that anyway, but.....
The last time we heard anything offical about issued shared and outstanding shares was in Feb. Frank said then that there was 15 billion shares issued and 7.5 billion shares outstanding. I know he said in the same article that they planned a buy back in the future but heres my problem.
They needed to issue those shares for a reason. It was to get this network started. I really don't think they knew how fast the stock price was going to raise. Secondly, have they issued new shares to company's to air this test, to start airing the soft launch? No one know because they refuse to tell us. If they had already bought shares back, I think they would be more then willing to let us know because that would be great. But as I said earilier they need there money to run the business. They have no ads yet to pay the bill so our money is it. I understand that. That doesn't bother me but to lead us on about a possible buy back with no way to do it does bother me.
This leads to the last question. Lets say this goes to .10 or more next week, which I think it could. To buy back 7 to 10 billion O/S shares would cost 700 million to 1 billion dollars. Because they need to have only around 500 million shares to make this a legit company as far as Nasdaq is concerned. I think they can only make this work with a reverse split unless they want to be a pink sheet forever.
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it also has been as high as $6 a share 2 years ago
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: If anyone would like to know, comparitively, what Pridevision's parent company, Headline Media Group, trades for:
It went as high as $1.00 before they announced the sale of Pridevision.
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Sorry, I didn't mean to compare Headline Media to Qbid.
I wanted to point out more directly the DECREASE in their pps since announcing the would sell Pridevision.
Pridevision revenue is not reported (or I can't find it) in the link Rics posted, because it is discontinued (sold) by its parent company, as far as I can tell. Headline Media continues to operate two other media properties.
--> As stated here in the PR: Loss from discontinued operations (PrideVision TV) for the second quarter was nil compared to a loss of $0.2 million in the prior year. For the period November 29, 2003 to February 29, 2004, operating losses from PrideVision TV have been included in deferred charges, and will be recognized upon the closing of the sale of PrideVision's Canadian assets. Income from discontinued operations for the six months ended February 29, 2004 was $0.1 compared to a loss of $1.8 million in the prior year due to cost containment initiatives as well as gains on the settlement of liabilities.
Comparitively was probably not the right word to use, thx for pointing that out Rics. ~BB
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by betting babe: [b]If anyone would like to know, comparitively, what Pridevision's parent company, Headline Media Group, trades for:
It went as high as $1.00 before they announced the sale of Pridevision.
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Pridevision was sold in a deal that has yet to be disclosed by Headline Media, in December 2003, finalized Feb 2004.
Coincidentally, Qtv broadcast Pridevision programming in the test signal this weekend.
In no way have I suggested Qbid was being bought out. I did, however, suggest on pure speculation that Qtv has acquired Pridevision's operations and therefore parts of it's programming in some sort of private deal. ~BB
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Any reasonable guesses on the price this week. My guess is it will at least double to close to .03. But I also see it going to .10 with the right enviroment.
In no way did I mean you said anything about a buy out. People who read the whole thing will understand what I was saying. I said there is a possible buy out. It was for people to see what could happen. In no way was it aimed at you saying anything about a buyout. Now are you happy. I SAID ABOUT THE BUY OUT. ME BART. This would be the very worst thing that could happen to QBID. Here we go again.
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If we are somehow related to Pridevision Pepsi could be one of the big advertisers we have been waiting for:
Gay TV Provides Fizz for Pepsi
Friday, 5 April 2002 Source: Commercial Closet NEW YORK -- The Pepsi-Cola Company could become the choice of a gay generation as it eases into the new world of gay TV, making it the first soft drink brand ever to target the gay market. One of the first major sponsors of PrideVision, the 24-hour gay TV network launched last fall in Canada, Pepsi is putting its support behind the "Urban Fitness" show with Pepsi and Diet Pepsi commercials. "Urban Fitness" began in January and Richard Burjaw, Pepsi-Cola Canada's director of marketing, says it "has all the energy and youthful spirit of the brand. Attitudinally, it's a good fit." While its start is modest, Burjaw says Pepsi may add support to other PrideVision programs, and though he has decided to use mainstream commercials now, it's "absolutely a possibility" that gay-specific commercials could appear later. The company has also been broadly eyeing the U.S. gay market since 1997, when it was advised by a gay marketing agency to expand its policies for gay employees first. It added an inclusive non-discrimination policy then but has not yet made any corporate marketing moves here, though an independent Pepsi bottler is said to be interested in supporting a Pride parade in California this summer. Gay TV Race to the U.S. As reported by the Commercial Closet column last September, PrideVision has plans to expand its viewership into the U.S. by fall 2002, and Viacom's Showtime and MTV also intend to launch their own American gay network soon, once enough local cable carriers are committed. With neither network available yet in the U.S., it looks to be a race to launch. Showtime/MTV's still-unnamed gay network was tested among gay focus groups in Houston, Boston and Miami and Showtime researcher Kim Lemmon says, "This (gay-themed) concept has done incredibly well, perhaps better than any others." But before it gets off the ground, local cable companies must be convinced to pick up the offering and it is taking some convincing. "The trick is getting distribution, which will determine a lot about the future of this channel," says Gene Falk, senior vice president of digital media at Showtime. Pepsi eyes a thirst gay market. In Canada, PrideVision is doing well as a premium choice on cable channels nationally, and interest from American audiences has been strong too. According to Michael Serapio, a program producer for PrideVision, over 40% of its web site visitors are from the U.S. Both are to offer a dual-revenue plan between viewer subscription and sponsorship or advertising. Matt Farber, who is leading up the Showtime/MTV effort with Falk, says "you can't rely on advertising alone to reach the gay and lesbian community in this day and age." Farber referred to magazines, which have a combination of subscriptions with advertising, and web sites like gay.com, which have turned to paid personal ads and online retail for alternative revenues. But with no precedent for any gay network - let alone two - some worry if there's room for both. MTV's Farber simply offers that "competition makes things move faster," and Showtime's Falk adds, "Competition is a great thing." Pepsi Trouble Down Under But even as things get started in Canada, Pepsi has run into a snag with a mainstream commercial airing in Australia since February that has offended some. It features a wrestler who tries to kiss a female fairy. Their lips almost touch but, as he comes out of his dream, she disappears and turns into his real male opponent, who he then violently head-butts. Complaints from Victoria's gay community resulted in an investigation by the country's Advertising Standards Bureau. The ASB has asked for a copy of the ad and Pepsi's comments, but no action has yet been taken. Michael Barnett, who registered the complaint, told the Melbourne Star the commercial "conveys a somewhat unsubtle message that it's okay to be violent if a guy tries to kiss you if you're male. The message it is giving is none too subtle and reinforces homophobic attitudes." Darren Borg, marketing director of Pepsi Australia, defends the ad as "less gender-specific and not about that at all - it's a competition between two wrestlers." Borg notes that independent local bottlers in Australia have been supportive of the gay community as sponsors of gay events - but not corporate Pepsi, and the commercial in question will continue to run for now. This inconsistent result - initiating outreach to the gay community while offending it elsewhere - is reminiscent of United Airlines' launch into the U.S. gay market in 1999, when it simultaneously challenged a San Francisco law that requires corporations to offer domestic partnership benefits to employees. The importance of coordinating interest in the gay market, along with treatment of gay employees and larger mainstream moves by the company, cannot be underestimated, a lesson quickly learned by United. Invariably, companies today are compelled to think about all their marketing messages and employee policies more closely when approaching the gay community. Sensitivity can dictate the difference between fizz and fizzle
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Bart, Your former post has your comments inserted in bold in the middle of my original post. It implies that your Buy Out comments are mine. Since you feel so strongly, I'm sure you want people to know you are saying it, not me. I simply asked you to move your comments so they read as your own, not mine.
I'd really appreciate it if you'd edit the post. thx, ~BB
quote:Originally posted by Bart: In no way did I mean you said anything about a buy out. People who read the whole thing will understand what I was saying. I said there is a possible buy out. It was for people to see what could happen. In no way was it aimed at you saying anything about a buyout. Now are you happy. I SAID ABOUT THE BUY OUT. ME BART. This would be the very worst thing that could happen to QBID. Here we go again.
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I want to make sure that all understand. That BABE did not say anything about a buyout of QBID. I DID. It is for sure something we need to think about. Now I hope we can move on.
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I'd love to see .025, since thanks to a telephone order misunderstanding, I got in at that price on some of my shares!! Above & beyond that would be icing =)
quote:Originally posted by HitMe101: Open @.02 would be a good start.
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krecik, what program specifically was on the Qtv signal test this weekend that was a Pridevision show? Posts: 2651 | Registered: Apr 2004
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quote:Originally posted by betting babe: Bart, Your former post has your comments inserted in bold in the middle of my original post. It implies that your Buy Out comments are mine. Since you feel so strongly, I'm sure you want people to know you are saying it, not me. I simply asked you to move your comments so they read as your own, not mine.
I'd really appreciate it if you'd edit the post. thx, ~BB
BY YOUR COMMAND.
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Mission has been taken care of. Now if you would take care of one mission. Do not tell people what they can post and not post on any QBID site. Free speech is still in play. Everyone was doing just fine and then. 007
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Bart, much appreciated. IMO we are all free to post anything we wish to post, you, me and others. It's just how it's posted, and I thank you for correcting the post at issue. I know it was a technical oversight. Absolutely no ill will intended.
After all, free speech is what QBID is all about! ~BB
quote:Originally posted by Bart: Mission has been taken care of. Now if you would take care of one mission. Do not tell people what they can post and not post on any QBID site. Free speech is still in play. Everyone was doing just fine and then. 007
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Not trying to start anything but here is my take on this. Anyone with any degree of intelligence could plainly see what Betting Babe had stated and what Bart had stated in the above post. Please Please Please lets not nick-pick or split hairs on such a trivial issue. All who post on these threads do have opinions that we can all share, after all this is a FREE website supplied to us by Allstocks and I for one am truly thankful. We are all, to some extent, intelligent anyway......... Do you know why?
We own QBID!!!!!!!!!!
The Spunkster.
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hey so what's everyone's thoughts on what the opening bell price is going to be?
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Since there has been rumors in the past about a Pridevision connection with QTV ,I found it very odd Pridevision would be airing the same movie as QTV on the same day. I don't know how a network gains the rights to air a movie ? Is it exclusive or not? You would hope QTV would be very aware of their competition and try stay one step ahead unless of course it's not the competition? If there is no connection and QTV wasn't aware the movie was also being shown on Pridevision we are in trouble.
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