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CashMaker, AKA CashTaker
Did anyone ever ask you how much money you collected for your trip? I didn't give you any, so I never bothered to ask, but I was surprised that nobody else ever asked for a total amount collected, or for you to show who gave how much money? I'm still curious. How'd that work out for you, anyway?

I'm still glad you made it back from NO safely, and I'm sure Diana is also. Truth is, I got more info about NO covention and QBID at that time from Diana, even though she didn't go.

I'm tired of seeing some of the best people on this board being called onto the carpet after doing so much hard work and sharing their efforts. Catching up on Allstocks tonight, first I see the Dog being torched and now Diana. I don't like it!

Take care of your assets folks, or you will lose them. Uncle Milty is a good example. The Dog just came back recently, after leaving for awhile.
I'm very clear about the people that I trust on this board and Diana is at the top of the list.

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Sorry if I touched anyone's feelings but you can only play the lieing field before it blows up on you.

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quote:
Originally posted by denzen:
CashMaker, AKA CashTaker
Did anyone ever ask you how much money you collected for your trip? I didn't give you any, so I never bothered to ask, but I was surprised that nobody else ever asked for a total amount collected, or for you to show who gave how much money? I'm still curious. How'd that work out for you, anyway?

I'm still glad you made it back from NO safely, and I'm sure Diana is also. Truth is, I got more info about NO covention and QBID at that time from Diana, even though she didn't go.

I'm tired of seeing some of the best people on this board being called onto the carpet after doing so much hard work and sharing their efforts. Catching up on Allstocks tonight, first I see the Dog being torched and now Diana. I don't like it!

Take care of your assets folks, or you will lose them. Uncle Milty is a good example. The Dog just came back recently, after leaving for awhile.
I'm very clear about the people that I trust on this board and Diana is at the top of the list.

DZ
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LET'S JUST GET MARRIED. I CAN COOK. DOES THAT COUNT...LOL

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Finally you asked!LOL

What about that application?

I cook too, probably not as good.

dz



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quote:
Originally posted by denzen:
Finally you asked!LOL

What about that application?

I cook too, probably not as good.

dz


Send me an application and I will fill it out. At least I could go on the waiting list..lol

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That's funny.
LOL
Thought you were taking em.

If I had one to send it would probably suggest that the position may end after about three years.

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Originally posted by realityinc21:
Send me an application and I will fill it out. At least I could go on the waiting list..lol



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quote:
Originally posted by denzen:
That's funny.
LOL
Thought you were taking em.

If I had one to send it would probably suggest that the position may end after about three years.

dz

Sounds good to me. Three years is about how long it takes someone to figure out how many of me there really is. lol They are so confused by that time they generally have to bail for their own safety. lol


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Sorry I was absent yesterday had some real world stuff to do but I am back. I am hoping for a very nice trade day for QBID I guess we will see soon enough.... Good Luck To All!
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quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:


You know, stranger things have happened than a love match made on the internet. I'm "best man" in a wedding next month of two people meeting on the internet! (Yea I'm a female married to a guy..but gender is not pertinent regardless of your role in the ceremony!) She is from Milwaukee and he's from California.

You two keep us informed! LOL

Go QBID!@


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quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
INTERESTING SATELLITE INFO:

--> Loral Space & Communications went bankrupt and was acquired by Intelsat. They just finished their reorganization and Intelsat was about to have an IPO, which they abruptly cancelled on May 21st.
Now Intelsat is for sale and looking for a merger.

--> Q "will broadcast its signal on Intelsat America's 7 at 129°W on channel 1."


--> Here's the Intelestat PR:
Reuters
UPDATE - Intelsat pulls IPO, starts merger talks
Friday May 21, 3:13 pm ET

NEW YORK, May 21 (Reuters) - Intelsat Ltd., the No. 2 satellite operator, on Friday said it withdrew its planned initial public offering and said it would resume talks with potential buyers.

Bermuda-based Intelsat said it hired Morgan Stanley (NYSE:MWD - News) and Merrill Lynch & Co. (NYSE:MER - News) -- the same banks that were to lead the IPO -- to explore a sale of the company, which would come amid a spate of consolidation activity in the satellite sector.

Industry watchers said Intelsat could fetch up to $1 billion in a sale with likely buyers including leveraged buyout firms that have recently been active in acquiring satellite assets. While the industry is hampered by overcapacity and sluggish growth, it produces steady cash flow that can be borrowed against to finance LBO deals, they say.

"Private equity firms will look at buying Intelsat but the capital markets will have a significant influence on what price they are prepared to pay," said William Collatos, general partner of Spectrum Equity Investors, a buyout firm that specializes in media and telecom investing.

The market for high-yield financing that underpins most large deals, he noted, "is getting tougher" and Intelsat is already carrying a large debt load.

Intelsat, whose 27 satellites carry voice, video and data traffic, generated sales of $953 million and net income of $181 million in 2003. Lockheed Martin (NYSE:LMT - News) holds a 24 percent stake, while France Telecom and India's Tata Industries each hold 5 percent.

But Intelsat faces challenges from landline transmission and must service debt of $2.3 billion at the end of 2003, of which $1.1 billion came with the acquisition of North American satellite assets of bankrupt Loral Space & Communications (OTC BB:LRLSE.OB - News), which closed in March.

NEW OWNERS IN SATELLITE SECTOR

Among others in the sector, Inmarsat, which handles marine, aviation and military communications, last year was bought by LBO firms Apax Partners and Permira, while PanAmSat (NasdaqNM:SPOT - News) recently agreed to be bought by Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co. And New Skies Satellites (NYSE:NSK - News) recently put itself on the block and is attracting private-equity buyer interest.

Intelsat said previously it had been in talks with potential buyers, but said in recent weeks that it canceled the talks to hold an IPO as required under the so-called Orbit Act. The law requires formerly government-owned enterprises like Intelsat and Inmarsat to broaden their shareholder base.

However, Intelsat said on Friday that it won an extension to the Orbit Act to as late as December 2005, allowing it to resume merger talks.

Intelsat said it is awaiting a ruling by the Federal Communications Commission in an action brought by Inmarsat that would decide the issue of whether a sale of the company constitutes broadening its shareholder base and complies with the Orbit Act.

INTELSAT BONDS FALL

News of a possible sale caused Intelsat bonds to fall, reflecting an increased likelihood of an LBO and concern over a larger debt load and default risk that such a deal would bring.

Intelsat's notes maturing in 2013 with a coupon of 6.5 percent fell to 87 cents on the dollar, two cents below Thursday's close. The extra yield over Treasuries that investors demand for taking on Intelsat's credit risk has more than doubled since late April.

In the credit derivatives market, the cost of buying five-year protection against Intelsat defaulting vaulted to 370 basis points a year from around 310 basis points.

That is an almost five-fold increase since rumors of a possible LBO first emerged in late April and means it would cost $370,000 a year to buy default protection on $10 million of Intelsat debt. (With reporting by Dan Wilchins)

Why is Q building their network around a satellite company that's for sale?
~BB


BB-Do you think that he is just doing the soft launch there because is is virtually free? His plan may or should be to attract advertisers etc and position himself better in the cable/satellite areana. Yes????

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PHARM,

I HOPE YOU ARE RIGHT. I REALLY LIKE THE NICE 10% 12% DAYS. JUST KEEPEM' COMING.

WILL SOMEONE PLEASE, PLEASE START A NEW THREAD. THANK YOU SO MUCH.......

MALLOY--WHEN A NEW THREAD IS STARTED WILL YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US THE PROCESS OF CREATING A NEW TV NETWORK? PLEASE. I KNOW THAT WILL TAKE TIME FOR THE POST. THANKS FOR YOU TIME AND IMPUT.

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"Q Television, also a 24-hour subscription service, will be announcing its cable providers and availability in the next few weeks"
http://www.newyorkblade.com/2004/5-28/news/national/logo.cfm
http://www.southernvoice.com/2004/5-28/news/national/viacom.cfm

Viacom announces launch of gay TV channel
Logo to hit cable in February as Comcast considers offering for Atlanta market

By BRIAN MOYLAN
Friday, May 28, 2004

Logo, an all-gay basic cable television channel backed by MTV, will hit the airwaves on Feb. 17, 2005, Viacom officials announced this week.

“What has been missing is a home, a home on television [the gay] audience can call their own,” said Tom Freston, chair and CEO of MTV Networks. “We believe, with this new network, we’ll be providing that home.”

Officials at MTV Networks, which is owned by Viacom, said when the new the new cable channel launches, it will feature 25 percent original programming and 75 percent acquired programming, including previously aired shows and movies.

Judy McGrath, president of MTV Networks Group — which also includes VH1, Comedy Central, Country Music Television, Spike TV, Nickelodeon and TV Land — said that Logo has 40 specials or programs in the development phase and about 20 in the pilot phase.
No specific programming announcements were made this week.

“It’s so important that we roll out a slate of programming that represents the diversity of the gay and lesbian audience,” said Matt Farber, a consultant who proposed the channel and has been spearheading its development. “We want to have that ready and unveil it at a separate time.”

That time may come at the Television Critics Association conference in mid July.

McGrath said that Logo would co-produce shows and specials with other MTV networks and other Viacom-owned properties like Showtime and CBS. She said those behind Logo are working with CBS News to create everything from a monthly gay newsmagazine to regular MTV News-style newsbreaks.

Under current arrangements, Logo will initially be available in Los Angeles, New York, Boston, Philadelphia and San Francisco. More cities may be added by the 2005 launch date.


No gay TV in the ATL
A spokesperson for Comcast, the major cable provider in metro Atlanta with some 600,000 customers, said that no arrangements have been made to carry the channel yet.

“We applaud MTV for developing a programming network designed to meet the needs of an important group of customers and we look forward to learning more about the network’s programming and business objectives,” said Reg Griffin, spokesperson for Comcast’s southern region.

The company hasn’t yet met with MTV Networks to discuss the channel and the possibility of adding it to Comcast’s offerings, Griffin said.
MTV aims to have Logo in 14 million homes by the end of 2005.

As an advertising-based basic cable channel, Logo will be subject to the same standards for programming as any other basic cable channel, which means limited profanity and intense adult situations.

“We’re not using profanity; we’re not using sex,” MTV’s Freston said. “This is going to be mainstream programming that you see everywhere else, except for the fact that it’s targeted to the gay and lesbian community.”

Howard Buford, CEO of Prime Access, Inc., an advertising agency that represents Fortune 500 companies in gay markets, says that Logo has a better chance with advertisers since it’s backed by Viacom.

“[Logo] will be the quality of an MTV or a Comedy Central if Viacom is behind it, and that is going to put at ease any advertisers who might be concerned about content,” he said, adding that gay consumers are especially attractive to advertisers.

“Research indicates the tremendous loyalty that the GLBT community has toward advertisers that support their values and support their communities,” he said.


Boycott threatened
MTV officials said they expected no backlash over the channel, but hours after Logo was unveiled, the Traditional Values Coalition announced it plans to boycott Logo advertisers.

“It doesn’t improve television,” TVC Chair Rev. Louis Sheldon told the Associated Press. “It only continues to offer moral anarchy for a very seriously dysfunctional lifestyle.”

Buford, who is gay, said a boycott of Logo is ill-advised.

“If [Logo] is following the same standards [as other cable channels], a boycott becomes not about content, it comes down to hate,” he said.

“At this point, the long list of active marketers in the GLBT community has made it untenable to sustain a boycott action,” he said. “Virtually every airline is active in marketing or advertising to gay travelers. Are people going to stop flying?”

The Human Rights Campaign and the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation both issued statements applauding MTV’s announcement of the channel.

Viacom has said for years it planned on launching a gay channel, but those plans never panned out. The idea was bandied about by the company as early as 1994.

In 2002, Showtime and MTV announced the companies were researching the viability of a gay subscription channel, supposedly to be named Outlet. The plan was dropped, but supposedly resurrected in December 2003.

In March, Viacom Chair and Chief Executive Sumner Redstone told the Wall Street Journal that he ordered Freston to come up with a business plan for a gay channel.


Stiff competition?
Logo will join two other gay cable channels, here!TV, which launched on satellite providers DirectTV in August 2003 and the Dish Network in March 2004, and Q Television Network, which announced this week plans to launch in July.

PridevisionTV, Canada’s gay channel, which started in 2001 and is now in 25,000 homes, said in April that it was still looking for funding to launch on U.S. cable outlets this fall.

Here!TV is an on-demand service, where customers can order gay movies and original programming. It will launch as a 24-hour subscription service, similar to HBO or Showtime, with RCN Cable in Boston, New York, Philadelphia and San Francisco in August.

Q Television, also a 24-hour subscription service, is scheduled to announce its cable providers and availability in the next few weeks.
Paul Colichman, president and founder of here!TV, doesn’t see Logo as competition.

“Here!TV is a pay channel, and Logo is basic cable, so we’re on different tiers, we’re not competitors,” Colichman said. “I’m pleased because, as a pay channel, we need a place to sell our programming when we’re done with it. Now we have a place, so I’m rooting for them.”

The original programming for Here!TV includes “Dante’s Cove,” a gay series that just completed filming, and “The Complex,” a lesbian soap opera.


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I'm glad that Q is at least mentioned in the article.. AND that they mention the July date for air.... BUT, it looks like LOGO is out for blood if they really do have all of those specials / prime time shows in production. However, the key here is being first to the market... GO Q, GO !!! ... come on, whiz... say it for us one more time!............ <pharm has hand cupped to ear... waiting to hear whiz say it....>


..... one more thing... did anyone else catch this.... "as a pay channel, we need a place to sell our programming when we’re done with it."

this may be Q's secret to having 24/7 programming right off the bat...

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Everyone strap in and place your trays and seats in the upright positions. Qbid will be departing the gate at 9:30am on schedule please make sure your belongings are placed securly in the overhead storage. We should arrive at out destination by 4:00pm as we have prevailing tail winds.

HEAVY tarding before the bell!

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Started new thread...hope it's ok!
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what if

Frank is smarter than we give him credit for. What if he is planning for an hard launch for June1 as opposed to July.

this forces MTV hand to announce there date amd bam we launch early beetign them to market and maintaining our goal to be the first.

I have heard talking that this is a strong possiblity


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Diana, Pharm, anyone else...

i have a long list of email addresses of US and international (including Canada) radio stations, TV stations, newspapers, government groups, etc...

does anyone want to email them to plug QBID ??

if so, what email address can i send the file to ???

GO QBID !!!
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This topic has been CLOSED, just like the truck weighing stations. Please see new thread:
http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/007093.html

Source: Dakota's Missus

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quote:
Originally posted by pharmdman:
I'm glad that Q is at least mentioned in the article.. AND that they mention the July date for air.... BUT, it looks like LOGO is out for blood if they really do have all of those specials / prime time shows in production. However, the key here is being first to the market... GO Q, GO !!! ... come on, whiz... say it for us one more time!............ <pharm has hand cupped to ear... waiting to hear whiz say it....>


..... one more thing... did anyone else catch this.... "as a pay channel, we need a place to sell our programming when we’re done with it."

this may be Q's secret to having 24/7 programming right off the bat...

[This message has been edited by pharmdman (edited May 28, 2004).]


"All we have to do is launch!"

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My pleasure.

quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:

MALLOY--WHEN A NEW THREAD IS STARTED WILL YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US THE PROCESS OF CREATING A NEW TV NETWORK? PLEASE. I KNOW THAT WILL TAKE TIME FOR THE POST. THANKS FOR YOU TIME AND IMPUT.



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get out while you can, BAD NEWS coming......
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**cue sounds of impending doom**

this is the old thread. we are well into the new thread:
http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/007093-4.html

unr, please place your ominous warnings on the current thread ;-)

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quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
**cue sounds of impending doom**

this is the old thread. we are well into the new thread:
http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/007093-4.html

unr, please place your ominous warnings on the current thread ;-)

~BB


Actually I'm Ok if he keeps his dire warnings to himself.

By the way Babe! Just saw the Paula site. So you actually are a Babe. Should have known from your posts on WNMI!

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heah, thx whiz =) that post was sarcastic...

*** THREAD CLOSED ***

new thread well underway: http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/007093-4.html


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