quote:Originally posted by Igor R: So how else is rufus going to get legal counsel without funds? Going to give them magic fairy dust?
Once again thats not the SEC's or the Judges problem , its the companies problem . How do you think the IRS , state comptrollers offices in every state , the DEA and the EPA end up with so much seized property ? When they come in , they seize everything they can get their hands on . You have to fight for it to stand a chance on getting it all or even a part of it back . If you cannot fight or in this case afford to hire a lawyer to fight for you , tough crap .
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quote:Originally posted by thesource: No but he could very well be picked up at court if he's got a bench warrant from the failure to appear on his last DUI court setting . I would also bet they are going to MTR (motion to revoke) his current probation since he's received another DUI charge .
None of this has anything to do with the SEC case , I just thought it was funny where it said "HABITUAL VIOLATOR" . That sounds like Dufus to me ........
You are seriously reaching now........
So, did you get that Pacer account like I suggested some time ago? Theres a new filing to check out.
edit : never mind I see LT helped out. Thanks LT
IMO please do not waste anymore time responding to him.If EVERYONE ignores him, maybe he will go away.I doubt it because he seems to like to argue.He has stated he has no shares, no interest blah , blah, so let him go to a board of one of the other places that he was pumping awhile back.He can no longer say that he is "protecting" other people from buying in.If the SEC had requested RPH's request to kept this on halt, than we would all be in a better place.
Have a great day!
Whats amazing is that you guys conitnue to bash me about stating the law but if this were reversed and Rufus some how by the grace of God caught a break and the stock took off like a rocket ship , the thread would go 10 times the lenght it is and half of the post would be about how stupid thesource was all along .......
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How can you fight for it if the SEC froze your assets, or prevented you from being able to continue business to get assets.
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quote:Originally posted by thesource: Thats his problem . When the IRS comes in and seizes accounts from businesses , the fact that they are cash broke so they cannot hire legal counsel does not fly in court . Its just like ignorance of the law is not an defense either .
Your game here is OVER unless you are filing your own suit against whomever twisted your arm into spending money you obviously could not afford to trade. NO ONE here even likes you because you are rude and offensive yet you stick around like a crazy uncle left off a party guest list. You are not "helping" anyone....we are obviously not selling at this point.
Get the point for F sake......we REALLY dont care what you think.
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quote:Originally posted by Igor R: So how else is rufus going to get legal counsel without funds? Going to give them magic fairy dust?
Once again thats not the SEC's or the Judges problem , its the companies problem . How do you think the IRS , state comptrollers offices in every state , the DEA and the EPA end up with so much seized property ? When they come in , they seize everything they can get their hands on . You have to fight for it to stand a chance on getting it all or even a part of it back . If you cannot fight or in this case afford to hire a lawyer to fight for you , tough crap .
And who's problem is it that you lost your a$$ in this stock? Thats YOUR problem....a problem you obviously cant get over. Get a therapist and work through it.
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quote:Originally posted by Igor R: How can you fight for it if the SEC froze your assets, or prevented you from being able to continue business to get assets.
You people just fail to comprehend the words I am saying . Do yourselves a huge favor . Stop the DD on this worthless azz company and its CEO . Take some time to research civil law and its procedures . Its like reading the Bible . Nothing bad can happen from it . You will be a smarter person for it even if you do not personally believe its right .
And for the record , I could care less what you people sell at or if you sell at all . As I've said before , Rufus has done way more damage to this stock than any basher or short seller could have ever done .
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quote:Originally posted by thesource: Thats his problem . When the IRS comes in and seizes accounts from businesses , the fact that they are cash broke so they cannot hire legal counsel does not fly in court . Its just like ignorance of the law is not an defense either .
Your game here is OVER unless you are filing your own suit against whomever twisted your arm into spending money you obviously could not afford to trade. NO ONE here even likes you because you are rude and offensive yet you stick around like a crazy uncle left off a party guest list. You are not "helping" anyone....we are obviously not selling at this point.
Get the point for F sake......we REALLY dont care what you think.
My game along with every one elses game was over when this was halted . Some just took a lighter loss than others . At this point , hell you might as well hold on to it unless you need the tax write off from other profits you made this year in the stock market which I highly doubt most of you will have that problem .
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quote:Originally posted by thesource: Thats his problem . When the IRS comes in and seizes accounts from businesses , the fact that they are cash broke so they cannot hire legal counsel does not fly in court . Its just like ignorance of the law is not an defense either .
Your game here is OVER unless you are filing your own suit against whomever twisted your arm into spending money you obviously could not afford to trade. NO ONE here even likes you because you are rude and offensive yet you stick around like a crazy uncle left off a party guest list. You are not "helping" anyone....we are obviously not selling at this point.
Get the point for F sake......we REALLY dont care what you think.
quote:Originally posted by thesource: Thats his problem . When the IRS comes in and seizes accounts from businesses , the fact that they are cash broke so they cannot hire legal counsel does not fly in court . Its just like ignorance of the law is not an defense either .
Your game here is OVER unless you are filing your own suit against whomever twisted your arm into spending money you obviously could not afford to trade. NO ONE here even likes you because you are rude and offensive yet you stick around like a crazy uncle left off a party guest list. You are not "helping" anyone....we are obviously not selling at this point.
Get the point for F sake......we REALLY dont care what you think.
My game along with every one elses game was over when this was halted . Some just took a lighter loss than others . At this point , hell you might as well hold on to it unless you need the tax write off from other profits you made this year in the stock market which I highly doubt most of you will have that problem .
I havent lost a penny on CSHD, im still in the game. As you just admitted, the game has been over for you for quite some time now. Im sorry you cant find peace in that. Good luck to you....im finished with this banter
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I've found peace in making a damn good amount of profit on other plays . Believe me that I sleep plenty good at night but would love to see Dufus behind bars and the investors get back atleast a portion of their money back but there's a better chance of it snowing in South Texas on Christmas day .
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Mr. CATIAEngineer has it right.....the DD will continue because thesource has no clue as to what is really going on here.... and soon he will find out how wrong he really is....and then the pain of being wrong as well as the pain from selling so cheap will hurt very bad.....Posts: 65 | Registered: Dec 2007
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quote:Originally posted by LT: Mr. CATIAEngineer has it right.....the DD will continue because thesource has no clue as to what is really going on here.... and soon he will find out how wrong he really is....and then the pain of being wrong as well as the pain from selling so cheap will hurt very bad.....
LMMFAO ..... I guess thats just a chance I am willing to take . Promise me one thing though , when it happens , can I be invited to the CSHD BBQ II ? You can all laugh and make fun of me in person that way .
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quote:Originally posted by LT: Mr. CATIAEngineer has it right.....the DD will continue because thesource has no clue as to what is really going on here.... and soon he will find out how wrong he really is....and then the pain of being wrong as well as the pain from selling so cheap will hurt very bad.....
LMMFAO ..... I guess thats just a chance I am willing to take . Promise me one thing though , when it happens , can I be invited to the CSHD BBQ II ? You can all laugh and make fun of me in person that way .
source just to show you what kind of person i am and how sure i am about things , i will personally meet you there and have the 1st drink with you and no laughing will be done...we will have a few drinks enjoy the evening with good people ....then watch as you go up to RPH and say "you were right" .... Posts: 65 | Registered: Dec 2007
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LT , when that day comes , I will do what ever is required for the CSHD club to forgive me for all my sins against their Lord Rufus and his band of merry morons .
Until then , I'll just keep bashing his ignorance and your loyalty to him .
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quote:Originally posted by Igor R: How can you fight for it if the SEC froze your assets, or prevented you from being able to continue business to get assets.
You people just fail to comprehend the words I am saying . Do yourselves a huge favor . Stop the DD on this worthless azz company and its CEO . Take some time to research civil law and its procedures . Its like reading the Bible . Nothing bad can happen from it . You will be a smarter person for it even if you do not personally believe its right .
And for the record , I could care less what you people sell at or if you sell at all . As I've said before , Rufus has done way more damage to this stock than any basher or short seller could have ever done .
stop the DD?
that's crazy.
Do yourselves a huge favor you should post elsewhere and focus on your own money.
if you just wanna trade insults? you are welcome to come over to the off-topics. we have made a sport of it. somehow i think you might be at a disadvantage tho.
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Achilles was arguably the greatest warrior of all time.
He defeated Hector of "invincible" Troy at the city gates and proceeded to drag Hectors dead body around the battle for as many 9 days, depending on which story you read. The Gods did not smile on this. The greatest warrior of all time was killed shortly thereafter by an arrow in the foot or knife in the back (depending on which story you read) by Hectors wimpy little bro.... Karma is tuffstuff. Achilles was on the "winning team", but he was still a loser.
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quote:Originally posted by thesource: LT , when that day comes , I will do what ever is required for the CSHD club to forgive me for all my sins against their Lord Rufus and his band of merry morons .
Until then , I'll just keep bashing his ignorance and your loyalty to him .
LOL Source
Remind me of your join date again!!! NUFF SAID!!!!
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My join date was about a month after I got into this crap hole . I was banned from HSM for questioning TUT and Rufus at the time . I stumbled on to this site and thought it to be more neutral territory but have since realized that the brain washing has been done on a very large scale and alot of people are still under the influence of CSHD .
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quote:Originally posted by thesource: My join date was about a month after I got into this crap hole . I was banned from HSM for questioning TUT and Rufus at the time . I stumbled on to this site and thought it to be more neutral territory but have since realized that the brain washing has been done on a very large scale and alot of people are still under the influence of CSHD .
LOL...
it was much more neutral, and it will stay that way if possible. it will also remain polite. agreeing to disagree is how adults play.
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I'd say the majority of the site is pretty neutral but for some reason this particular stock is just one of those topics that people refuse to see things for how they are . I have nothing against a single person on here . I know you want to believe that by some miracle things will turn around and everyone will be swimming naked in their fortunes but given the track record of this company and its fairy tale CEO , its not looking to good .
I will be so glad when RPH is sitting in jail whether its from this mess or from the DUI case . He really needs to be locked up for the good of every person in this mess regardless of the side you are on . I would also like to see the others get punished as well but they are running for cover hoping the feds will forget about them . I am sure old Ben is up to his neck in it just as much as RPH since they are running buddies .
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I will be so glad when RPH is sitting in jail whether its from this mess or from the DUI case . He really needs to be locked up for the good of every person in this mess regardless of the side you are on . I would also like to see the others get punished as well but they are running for cover hoping the feds will forget about them . I am sure old Ben is up to his neck in it just as much as RPH since they are running buddies .
you see? you and i agree on aloto fthings.
telling people to go away and shutup only facilitates the scammers. aslong as people keep posting the stuff? the issue is still alive, and the Feds can't just walk away...
i can tell you for fact that there's people involved that would like this thread to go away...
i've said this before and i'll say it again, leaving this up front and center gives newbies some point of reference.
all penny players get burned, it's part of the game. if this one bothers you then don't open the thread.
IMO, it's not the message you have to share that's a problem it's simply the style...
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quote:Originally posted by TimW: Got three docs on pacer.
Motion to Compel Affidavit in Support of Motion Response in Opposition to Motion
Rufus on the offense now.. Crazy.
Good
What kills me is the obvious effort this guy has put into this.
You would think funding the companies and getting the ball rolling that way would have been easier and less stressfull than trying to haul over the system.
More power to him.
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If he'd only put forth 10% of this effort a year ago with legal counsel , the stock might have actually stood a small chance but at this point , he's just spinning his wheels and running his mouth .
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I just read the filings on PACER . While they might seem impressive to someone who does not know what they are looking at , its just more fluff from Rufus . He's still trying to file motions on behalf of the company through himself and thats not going to work not to mention its been a year since the suit was filed . I highly doubt the judge is going to grant him a damn thing after all this time even if they had legal counsel but they don't so its not even an option right now .
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A couple of points here. First, this site has always been neutral. Very few post here in comparison to it's hey day. Therefore when you state that a lot of people are under the influence of CSHD, I'd say you are dead wrong. With the exception of newcomer LT, the majority here have questioned over and over the events that transpired.
Just because most here are civil and not attempting to win others over to their point of view but instead discuss and learn by this experience does not mean they are under the influence.
It simply means that MOST here are continuing to look for the truth as to what happened. Was Rufus a pawn or a willing participant? Was it MA. DP and Corey that orchestrated the rise and fall? What role did Sabra play? I mean these are all legit questions.
The only one I have read that feels we(CSHD) are golden is LT, as is her right. Even though I disagree with her, it is not my place to demean her or make her convert to my point of view.
I also believe the court case is over by reason of default BUTnot being an attorney can not be certain. If I remember correctly you are not an attorney either. So let's let the professionals handle it.
Post your position over and over is not convincing anyone, nor should it.
Those here that currently own shares paid the price of admission and have the right to see it through to the end.
I have not read one person who has advocated buying shares and therefore whatever is being discussed hurts no one.
I've lost money on plenty of penny stocks and have stuck around on some that were scams but I posted because there were people posting in an effort to attract new investors. There was a reason to alert the newbies. Here there is none.
It's all about discussion. Heck I know I have learned many things in the past year through postings of many individuals on this thread. I hope to continue to expand my base of knowledge by checking in and hopefully finding more pearl's of wisdom.
GLTA Wally
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Is there a post anywhere that contains the third filing? Ive read the two LT posted, but haven't seen the third.
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source you were a shareholder before that october 26th date correct? So if for some reason this thing did come back you should still be entitled to six times your original shares. Correct?
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