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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
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Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
[If CSHD is going to turn out ok then there is no reason to continue with this banter right? Just let it play out IMO. No one is suggesting buying OR selling so whats the point of arguing what you do or do not know?

could'n'a said it better myself...
Howdy. I tried to PM you yesterday but your inbox was full. I dropped you an email instead.

Good to see ya...I hope all is well with ya

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quote:
Originally posted by Ironman64:
Of course Tex, wouldn't expect anything less from you. Goes back to what is your angle here question a few days back.

But, heck, lets play with your distorted answer. So, who has the diamonds now? Bob or Bill? Since the only one selling diamonds on the block "is....BOB.

Hmmmm.....

distorted? How so?

Who's still selling?

"Where did it go?" How would I know? All I know is Alexander claimed about 6 to 7 million$ in filings...

I know who *doesn't* have it...

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quote:
Originally posted by Ironman64:
Mr. Cat --

It appears that we have but one thing in common these days.....we have both had personal conversations with Paul.

The odd thing about that is that anyone that has spoken to him and discussed anything of substance would come away with what? Would it be a sour or rosey view of our future? The truth of the matter is this -- Paul should not be the target of any shareholder anger, but since most shareholders can't get their mitts on the true crooks...Heck, Harris gets to take the brunt of the attack. Next, I can tell you that Harris, if posting here would agree with most, if not all, of the content of my posts. I am not saying you have personally made any negative posts about Harris, but you do seem to support an environment for doing so.

My initial reason for coming here to post was due to comments about Harris and/or CSHD here. One thing I think Harris would say to me is that it is an exercise in futility, the balance of keeping the mood up by posting without divulging info that could harm the outcome.

I do not bear any ill will to any honest shareholders that post here. However, I know there are others here that have or will have significant legal problems in front of them due to their crooked past in this stock. To those, my wish is the justice system shows no leniency for what you have tried to do to honest people.

"I am not saying you have personally made any negative posts about Harris, but you do seem to support an environment for doing so."

See now thats what I call a spin.

I TRY to support an environment where facts are facts and opinions are left at the door. Im not always successful and I let emotion and opinion come into play too often but what I "seem" to support is not up for discussion, especially with someone that I have no history on....yet you can go back 2 years in my history if you want.

What I do not support is arguing with a few bashers that stop in the thread once in a blue moon and spout off some remark that quite honestly doesnt bother me, and shouldnt bother RPH either IMO. If you go back through this thread, and the several before it, you will see that we all fought the bashers when we felt it was necessary and eventually decided it was no longer worth our time.

You say you came here due to comments about Harris and CSHD...did you look at how many pages there had been since January? Take another look now and see what YOU have done. The bashing had basically come to an end other than a post every other week or so, now you have brought attention back to this thread.

I find it interesting that you feel you can speak for Harris, how he would agree with your posts....and so on. Those are bold statements from just a fellow shareholder. Yes, you and I have spoken with Paul. I spoke with him 3 different times. Did I leave the discussion with a sour or rosey view of our future? Neither, because i did NOT discuss anything of "substance" with him. I felt it would be foolish to do so being that the substance could be considered insider info.

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Please don't play the "insider info" card. Do you fully understand that possessing insider information is no crime? Do you realize the moment it becomes a problem is when someone trades on it. I highly doubt that anyone here is thinking of selling their shares when they are trading at this level.

Regarding this thread, it is comical that a message board is a forum for discussing the subject matter for the particular thread...Yet, you blame me for people focusing on this thread, coming here to do just that. Uh----ok.

Like I said before, although we both claim to be long shareholders, we really don't agree on much about CSHD, it appears.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ironman64:
Please don't play the "insider info" card. Do you fully understand that possessing insider information is no crime? Do you realize the moment it becomes a problem is when someone trades on it. I highly doubt that anyone here is thinking of selling their shares when they are trading at this level.


some people prefer to remain above doubt.

and? once you KNOW insider info, can you trade at all?
tricky questions that some of US who have seen much do know to ask.

you're just muck raking.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ironman64:
Please don't play the "insider info" card. Do you fully understand that possessing insider information is no crime? Do you realize the moment it becomes a problem is when someone trades on it. I highly doubt that anyone here is thinking of selling their shares when they are trading at this level.

Regarding this thread, it is comical that a message board is a forum for discussing the subject matter for the particular thread...Yet, you blame me for people focusing on this thread, coming here to do just that. Uh----ok.

Like I said before, although we both claim to be long shareholders, we really don't agree on much about CSHD, it appears.

Actually we dont agree on your reasons for posting here...you really dont seem to know my opinion on CSHD.

Someday when you choose to take off that mask you are wearing maybe we can truly discuss our opinions. Obviously MOST of us do live behind an alias...but MOST of us keep that alias. Ironman from Nowhereville leads me to believe you either dont want someone to know your past or you dont want them to know your future. In either case its dodgy IMO.

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And Mr. Cat, I respect your right to an opinion....about CSHD and about me. Time will tell which of us talked out of our hind end.
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Hummmm? Is this the new Channel 6?? LMAO I see a Cult following starting. Seems we have a Dufus or Griff clone posting here!

Hi Dirt and Harp!!

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quote:
Originally posted by Ironman64:
And Mr. Cat, I respect your right to an opinion....about CSHD and about me. Time will tell which of us talked out of our hind end.

IMO, unless you have read the last two years of the threads on here, or Mr.C's, posts ( all of them)
How can you base any opinion on Mr.C's posts?

As far as talking out of your hind end, well, you said it, not us!!

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quote:
Originally posted by IrishLife2:
Hummmm? Is the the new Channel 6?? LMAO I see a Cult following starting. Seems we have a Dufus or Griff clone in our mist!

Hi Dirt and Harp!!

There goes the neighborhood [Razz]

I doubt you will see a cult following start up here. We try to keep it real over here these days. A person can be Pro-CSHD without the unnecessary Tutisms and Griffisms....IMO of course. [Wink]

Welcome to the board....

Peace

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quote:
Originally posted by Ocqueoc:
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Originally posted by Ironman64:
And Mr. Cat, I respect your right to an opinion....about CSHD and about me. Time will tell which of us talked out of our hind end.

IMO, unless you have read the last two years of the threads on here, or Mr.C's, posts ( all of them)
How can you base any opinion on Mr.C's posts?

As far as talking out of your hind end, well, you said it, not us!!

Better question, how can I have an opinion of Ironman when I dont even know who that is? [Confused]
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by IrishLife2:
Hummmm? Is this the new Channel 6?? LMAO I see a Cult following starting. Seems we have a Dufus or Griff clone posting here!

Hi Dirt and Harp!!

There goes the neighborhood [Razz]

I doubt you will see a cult following start up here. We try to keep it real over here these days. A person can be Pro-CSHD without the unnecessary Tutisms and Griffisms....IMO of course. [Wink]

Welcome to the board....

Peace

What a relief!! And, thank you for the kind welcome! <smiling>
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Hey Ironman, you said you don't know when this will end. What about a range, like in the next 6 months or 5+ years from now?
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PCola --

Like I said before, all my posts/comments have been honest and forthright. And I will say upfront, no one knows when this journey is going to be over. The only person involved with CSHD that might have a clue is Paul. Whether he absolutely does or doesn't is unclear. I honestly think that we are not alone in this fight, which likely makes Paul not in full control of the fight against the crooks. We are merely in line waiting for this an event or series of events to break this thing loose. With that said, I do not look for this to move significantly until at Election time or shortly thereafter. THIS IS JUST MY VIEW IN LIGHT OF THE THINGS I HAVE OBSERVED. No one has ever told me a timeline and I have never asked.

Hope this helps some.

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lol, regardless of why you came, you sure post some funny stuff...will bold what strikes me, personally:

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I honestly think that we are not alone in this fight, which likely makes Paul not in full control of the fight against the crooks.
That's too, too rich...

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My initial reason for coming here to post was due to comments about Harris and/or CSHD here. One thing I think Harris would say to me is that it is an exercise in futility, the balance of keeping the mood up by posting without divulging info that could harm the outcome.
Now, look, before you lump me in with folks who get all bent about "paid bashers" or "paid pumpers" ... you gotta concede that *almost* sounds like a "job description." C'mon, now--am *not* saying anybody sent you over here...it's just funny how you phrase some of the stuff you do...

You ever find those regs on "Threshold Price Reset"?

As I recall now, what I found was by Googling "tax free reorganization" + IRS tax code, then some combo of (Threshold) (Price Reset).

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Tex --

As I recall, I responded to your post already....re-read it and print it if need be. You find the REG that prohibits it if you are so hot to trot on that. After all, you are hung up on the TPR just like the crooks. Right?

And, BTW, your post earlier about Alexander and shares pretty much summed it up on your stance. Right where we thought you were lined up.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ironman64:
Tex --

As I recall, I responded to your post already....re-read it and print it if need be. You find the REG that prohibits it if you are so hot to trot on that. After all, you are hung up on the TPR just like the crooks. Right?

And, BTW, your post earlier about Alexander and shares pretty much summed it up on your stance. Right where we thought you were lined up.

me!

lol, YOU said the TPR is what raised Hell...If I were in your position, ie, advocating that TPR is a legit technique/tactic/whatever...MAN O MAN! I'd have those links at my fingertips, ready to trot out for anyone to read...

No, dude, I know a divvy is a divvy--and you gotta give folks advance notice, including NASDAQ.

By the way? Who is "we"? Can't you/they read the filings? You disagree he raked off about 6 to 7 million dollars U$D?

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And I was always told that everything was bigger and better in Texas. hmmmm....

The Atlanta SEC wants Harris gone so bad they can taste it. Rather than come up with some lame excuse as you did earlier today by saying the SEC is saving the TPR issue as an "ace in the hole", you know better than that. They want him gone, bye-bye, whatever it takes, and they would have already used it if it were an issue. Several of us have talked to Alana and company along the way, it isn't hard to see they want this over oh so bad. So, no cigar on that one.

Everyone has seen those filings....late as they were. Perley, Alexander and no doubt many others have a whole lot splaining to do, no doubt. Wonder why Perley, Alexander, Gee, and company have been so quiet as of late????

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quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
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Originally posted by Ironman64:
Tex --

As I recall, I responded to your post already....re-read it and print it if need be. You find the REG that prohibits it if you are so hot to trot on that. After all, you are hung up on the TPR just like the crooks. Right?

And, BTW, your post earlier about Alexander and shares pretty much summed it up on your stance. Right where we thought you were lined up.

me!

lol, YOU said the TPR is what raised Hell...If I were in your position, ie, advocating that TPR is a legit technique/tactic/whatever...MAN O MAN! I'd have those links at my fingertips, ready to trot out for anyone to read...

No, dude, I know a divvy is a divvy--and you gotta give folks advance notice, including NASDAQ.

By the way? Who is "we"? Can't you/they read the filings? You disagree he raked off about 6 to 7 million dollars U$D?

Tex, the only thing that bothers me about the TPR was at the time Rufus PR'ed it, there wasn't enough shares in the authorized shares to accomodate the extra 6 shares that were to be issued. Someone said that Rufus was going to make that his next filing. I think that was said by Rufus on the radio or that conference call he had.
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Now your getting somewhere.

I feel like we are getting to the scene in the end of the movie, A few Good Men, when Nicholson says....You want the truth....you Can't handle the truth.

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San Antonio looks to be putting up a fight....might give the Lakers some resistence tonight.

Looking forward to a possible Celtics/Lakers final.

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quote:
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Originally posted by T e x:
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Originally posted by Ironman64:
Tex --

As I recall, I responded to your post already....re-read it and print it if need be. You find the REG that prohibits it if you are so hot to trot on that. After all, you are hung up on the TPR just like the crooks. Right?

And, BTW, your post earlier about Alexander and shares pretty much summed it up on your stance. Right where we thought you were lined up.

me!

lol, YOU said the TPR is what raised Hell...If I were in your position, ie, advocating that TPR is a legit technique/tactic/whatever...MAN O MAN! I'd have those links at my fingertips, ready to trot out for anyone to read...

No, dude, I know a divvy is a divvy--and you gotta give folks advance notice, including NASDAQ.

By the way? Who is "we"? Can't you/they read the filings? You disagree he raked off about 6 to 7 million dollars U$D?

Tex, the only thing that bothers me about the TPR was at the time Rufus PR'ed it, there wasn't enough shares in the authorized shares to accomodate the extra 6 shares that were to be issued. Someone said that Rufus was going to make that his next filing. I think that was said by Rufus on the radio or that conference call he had.
Hello, Harpeter,

Nice to see another new "face"...

If I knew that about share-count, I had forgotten it. I haven't followed every twist-n-turn on this thing; was following early, then was in-n-out quite a bit that fall.

Anyway, what bothered me was two-fold: first, given the date range of the PR(s?) and the announced, let's say, "effective date," I could not see how the paperwork could get to NASDAQ abd cleared in time to make the date; second, if there *was* an end-run around it being a divvy/split, I could not find any regs to support it. On the contrary, what I found was something to the effect that "less than full disclosure on any cash or stock distribution" is considered manipulative.

That's good to know about the share structure, though. Do you know whether the share structure you consider "genuine" can be verified? Or is that one of those "he said, she said" controversies? In other words, do the various camps agree that A/S would have needed to be increased in order to accommodate the 6-for-1?

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Muhahaha.....
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Jenna you have a PM

Hello everyone- just drive by to say hi and check out the banter [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by Ironman64:
And I was always told that everything was bigger and better in Texas. hmmmm....

The Atlanta SEC wants Harris gone so bad they can taste it. Rather than come up with some lame excuse as you did earlier today by saying the SEC is saving the TPR issue as an "ace in the hole", you know better than that. They want him gone, bye-bye, whatever it takes, and they would have already used it if it were an issue. Several of us have talked to Alana and company along the way, it isn't hard to see they want this over oh so bad. So, no cigar on that one.

Everyone has seen those filings....late as they were. Perley, Alexander and no doubt many others have a whole lot splaining to do, no doubt. Wonder why Perley, Alexander, Gee, and company have been so quiet as of late????

Have you been diagnosed with...something?

Judging by your inability to respond to points made, I'm guessing some form of adult attention-deficit disorder.

If so, please don't be so self-conscious--we'll adjust. The best thing is to just come out with it, ya know what I mean? Lol, get this--we had one dude on the board who claimed to be able to speak/post only in third-person. Now, that guy was a trip...But some really enjoyed his posts. Like Denny Crane says, "Hope Springs A Kernel!"

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Way to address the issues Tex.

Mighty fine, partner.

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BTW, have you really made 18,307 posts?

In all honesty....who needs the diagnosis?

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Paul doesn't know sh*. Stop by his office over here in mesa and ask him yourself.

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Poetter?

The Paul some of us have been discussing today is Rufus Paul Harris.

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Hello, Harpeter,

Nice to see another new "face"...

If I knew that about share-count, I had forgotten it. I haven't followed every twist-n-turn on this thing; was following early, then was in-n-out quite a bit that fall.

Anyway, what bothered me was two-fold: first, given the date range of the PR(s?) and the announced, let's say, "effective date," I could not see how the paperwork could get to NASDAQ abd cleared in time to make the date; second, if there *was* an end-run around it being a divvy/split, I could not find any regs to support it. On the contrary, what I found was something to the effect that "less than full disclosure on any cash or stock distribution" is considered manipulative.

That's good to know about the share structure, though. Do you know whether the share structure you consider "genuine" can be verified? Or is that one of those "he said, she said" controversies? In other words, do the various camps agree that A/S would have needed to be increased in order to accommodate the 6-for-1?

Tex, I'm going by the last filing that gave the A/S and when you compare the O/S at the time of the announcement, there wouldn't be enough shares to accomodate the 6:1. Now to throw a monkey wrench in the game, Rufus said the O/S was bought up at the time of the merger. So how can millions of shares have been traded since the merger. Makes you go hmmmm

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quote:
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BTW, have you really made 18,307 posts?

In all honesty....who needs the diagnosis?

DOH!

18, 308, now... [BadOne]


Seriously? That was my gentle attempt to remind you to stay on focus. You'll have a better time here if you don't "bob n weave" so much. Most of the core members here are sincerely interested in genuine dialogue.

Just a hedzup...

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Paul doesn't know sh*. Stop by his office over here in mesa and ask him yourself.

Please explain. Who has an office there? What's the office for? a named business?

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Hello, Harpeter,

Nice to see another new "face"...

If I knew that about share-count, I had forgotten it. I haven't followed every twist-n-turn on this thing; was following early, then was in-n-out quite a bit that fall.

Anyway, what bothered me was two-fold: first, given the date range of the PR(s?) and the announced, let's say, "effective date," I could not see how the paperwork could get to NASDAQ abd cleared in time to make the date; second, if there *was* an end-run around it being a divvy/split, I could not find any regs to support it. On the contrary, what I found was something to the effect that "less than full disclosure on any cash or stock distribution" is considered manipulative.

That's good to know about the share structure, though. Do you know whether the share structure you consider "genuine" can be verified? Or is that one of those "he said, she said" controversies? In other words, do the various camps agree that A/S would have needed to be increased in order to accommodate the 6-for-1?

Tex, I'm going by the last filing that gave the A/S and when you compare the O/S at the time of the announcement, there wouldn't be enough shares to accomodate the 6:1. Now to throw a monkey wrench in the game, Rufus said the O/S was bought up at the time of the merger. So how can millions of shares have been traded since the merger. Makes you go hmmmm

man, I have no idea...

are you saying Harris believed there was a problem with the share structure but he went ahead and announced the 6-for-1?

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by harpeter:
Hello, Harpeter,

Nice to see another new "face"...

If I knew that about share-count, I had forgotten it. I haven't followed every twist-n-turn on this thing; was following early, then was in-n-out quite a bit that fall.

Anyway, what bothered me was two-fold: first, given the date range of the PR(s?) and the announced, let's say, "effective date," I could not see how the paperwork could get to NASDAQ abd cleared in time to make the date; second, if there *was* an end-run around it being a divvy/split, I could not find any regs to support it. On the contrary, what I found was something to the effect that "less than full disclosure on any cash or stock distribution" is considered manipulative.

That's good to know about the share structure, though. Do you know whether the share structure you consider "genuine" can be verified? Or is that one of those "he said, she said" controversies? In other words, do the various camps agree that A/S would have needed to be increased in order to accommodate the 6-for-1?

Tex, I'm going by the last filing that gave the A/S and when you compare the O/S at the time of the announcement, there wouldn't be enough shares to accomodate the 6:1. Now to throw a monkey wrench in the game, Rufus said the O/S was bought up at the time of the merger. So how can millions of shares have been traded since the merger. Makes you go hmmmm

man, I have no idea...

are you saying Harris believed there was a problem with the share structure but he went ahead and announced the 6-for-1?

No, I'm not saying that at all. Just recently someone brought that problem up. And I'm saying that Rufus said recently that was going to be addressed in his next filing. But we were shut down and no filing was made concerning that.
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Ironman, what kind of time line do you see happening for possible future events to play out? Thats if by some miracle something actually happens.
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