posted
So was the "default" withdrawn or not? I was under the impressioon that nothing needed to be done today Because the signing of the TRO and the other was the "same as" an answer...and that the default was withdrawn??? I am beyond confused...
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: imho, the failure to answer the motion for default says it all. they should have had an attorney at the court house door when the courthouse opened this morning and then pr'ed it. today's drop is a lack of confidence that the company answered the motion. think about it. if you're right, show up, prove up, then shout it from the rooftops. if guilty, be quiet and slink dack into the shadows.
How long, re preceding events, did it take for docs for to show up? Am wondering whether it's still possible the company answered today...
-------------------- #1 Rule: Protect your capital! #2 Rule: Never fall for the BS on the boards!
IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: So was the "default" withdrawn or not? I was under the impressioon that nothing needed to be done today Because the signing of the TRO and the other was the "same as" an answer...and that the default was withdrawn??? I am beyond confused...
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by 66inxs: imho, the failure to answer the motion for default says it all. they should have had an attorney at the court house door when the courthouse opened this morning and then pr'ed it. today's drop is a lack of confidence that the company answered the motion. think about it. if you're right, show up, prove up, then shout it from the rooftops. if guilty, be quiet and slink dack into the shadows.
How long, re preceding events, did it take for docs for to show up? Am wondering whether it's still possible the company answered today...
dunno...Mark said this morning he didn't know, either. So perhaps the shareholder committee doesn't even know...
In lieu of new info, I have gone on the assumption the company had through today to answer. Last I knew, nothing was on a docket to withdraw the motion for default.
-------------------- Nashoba Holba Chepulechi Adventures in microcapitalism...
IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: WOW - Has anybody seen this post from JesusPower yesterday on HSM- Interesting.....First, Anthony changed his tune on SPR about Rufus, now JesusPower1, these are people who were in teleconference right? I think it speaks volumes....
JesusPower1 says:
I owe many of you an apology! I'm sincerely sorry if I have made myself out to be a complete moron for acting so blindly in my passion for the company. I know now that you can't trust just anyone! Proper discernment is vital and major emotions should not cloud your thinking.
I have learned so much from so many of you and applaud you for maintaining level-headed wisdom throughout this whole journey. Some of you are so stinking smart...and intuitive that it blows me away. Keep up the good work!
To answer the quote above...
I understand your thinking...it was mine as well until I sought and received help.
The responsibility of the Primary MM signed on is to protect the stock from crooked MM's and the MM that might be chosen should be a highly respected one in the industry that other MM's will not buck and try to bring the price down. This P MM will maintain the support.
Remember that those short positions prior to 10/16 now have 7x's as many and will now have to cover those within..I'm guessing 3 days..of the resumption of trading on the OTCBB.
After the other MM's file their own form, then we will see where we go from there. I don't know the answer to that yet.
And I hope great good comes out of the congressional hearing on Tuesday.
The true long on the other side of the shorting trade as CONCARNE alluded to...is interesting to say the least. Why did RPH say on SPR the other night that if we got 6 shares and a pps of $1.80 that we should take it? What happened to his conviction of the $11 BV? Why would he seem content to let the company fall apart and be completely de-listed...not hiring an attorney or dealing with the SEC professionally!?! I see ulterior motives!
All truth will come out in time I'm sure. All I can say is that I truly thank God for John, James, Mark and several others that had the integrity to take the necessary action and protect the company and it's AMAZING shareholders.
Continue to hang in there as the execs work through the items necessary to get us moving in the right direction. The business plan is a great one, hence the reason why it attracted so many shareholders of high calibur.
I can't give any timelines b/c I really refuse to play that game anymore. I am long and strong.
Peace
I wonder what caused him to change his position? Hopefully we start making progress soon!
-------------------- Success is having the time and money to enjoy all of life's wonders...
IP: Logged |
posted
Is there anyone here who is attempting to liquidate a position in this stock? If so, are you having any luck putting your sells through? I'm interested in the actual liquidity of this stock, and where the volume is coming from.
-------------------- "Entrepreneurship is the last refuge of the trouble making individual."
posted
No i'm attempting to stock my liquid. Let's see brandy, wine, chavez.... Oh ya and position it....80% by volume hope that helps.....
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: Is there anyone here who is attempting to liquidate a position in this stock? If so, are you having any luck putting your sells through? I'm interested in the actual liquidity of this stock, and where the volume is coming from.
posted
Thanks for the giggles. However, I am actually interested in how liquid this stock is, and if anyone here is attempting to trade it on the sell side.
-------------------- "Entrepreneurship is the last refuge of the trouble making individual."
posted
The biggest mystery to me right now is how some body can brag about a bond for 6 months and can't just plain old show proof of it when neccessary, let alone use it for all the business they brag about. Subpeona people to court, do what ever is neccessary. After all there is'nt supposed to be room for a penny stock mentality in this positon.
IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: If the judge has no position to shut the doors down on RPH and the company then I don't get what they filed the exhibits for?
One was sealed and apparently been dubbed the ace in the hole for CSHD.
I would think that if the SEC presents the court with a potential fraud case and the defendent has NO proof to the claims then the court would step in and stop the company from going back on the market and further defrauding the public.
Back in a bit- off to dinner
-fw
it is not easy to shut down a company no matter how massive the fraud! did you know that ENRON still trades!
Comparing this stock to Enron is crazy. This stock has not quantified a single asset since the start of this saga.
-------------------- Got CSHD? Its fun
IP: Logged |
posted
What's the deal with the block of stock on Euroclear? I'm still listening to the SPR show and Rufus is making a big deal about this. To me, it sounds like Rufus put some shares of CSHD onto Euroclear to prove that we have a Euroclear account. He told Simon that when we figure out why they are there, we'll have our answers (or something like that).
IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: If the judge has no position to shut the doors down on RPH and the company then I don't get what they filed the exhibits for?
One was sealed and apparently been dubbed the ace in the hole for CSHD.
I would think that if the SEC presents the court with a potential fraud case and the defendent has NO proof to the claims then the court would step in and stop the company from going back on the market and further defrauding the public.
Back in a bit- off to dinner
-fw
it is not easy to shut down a company no matter how massive the fraud! did you know that ENRON still trades!
Comparing this stock to Enron is crazy. This stock has not quantified a single asset since the start of this saga.
Enron was a good play after it emerged from bankruptcy.
-------------------- Stick with Repo's plan in '07 - FRPT/DKAM!
IP: Logged |
So what you are saying is that despite any obvious evidence of fraud you are saying that the SEC and Federal court could not have shut down the operations already?
What was the purpose of the exhibits provided to the judge? If it wasn't for some sort of TRO/Complaint argument I don't see what the purose of it was for. If the court and SEC couldn't act on what it was given why would the SEC agree to the TRO which still let CSHD operate?
I know its a long process for them to be accused of Fraud etc.. but the courts position in late oct with the complaint and all exhibits provided from the SEC and CSHD was for something....the judge made a determination then of some sort??
Was it to agree with the SEC and allow the company onto the market to trade again despite the SEC and court knowing the entire thing was fraud?
Doesn't sound right.
-------------------- Got CSHD? Its fun
IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by milliam: What's the deal with the block of stock on Euroclear? I'm still listening to the SPR show and Rufus is making a big deal about this. To me, it sounds like Rufus put some shares of CSHD onto Euroclear to prove that we have a Euroclear account. He told Simon that when we figure out why they are there, we'll have our answers (or something like that).
So what you are saying is that despite any obvious evidence of fraud you are saying that the SEC and Federal court could not have shut down the operations already?
What was the purpose of the exhibits provided to the judge? If it wasn't for some sort of TRO/Complaint argument I don't see what the purose of it was for. If the court and SEC couldn't act on what it was given why would the SEC agree to the TRO which still let CSHD operate?
I know its a long process for them to be accused of Fraud etc.. but the courts position in late oct with the complaint and all exhibits provided from the SEC and CSHD was for something....the judge made a determination then of some sort??
Was it to agree with the SEC and allow the company onto the market to trade again despite the SEC and court knowing the entire thing was fraud?
quote:Originally posted by milliam: What's the deal with the block of stock on Euroclear? I'm still listening to the SPR show and Rufus is making a big deal about this. To me, it sounds like Rufus put some shares of CSHD onto Euroclear to prove that we have a Euroclear account. He told Simon that when we figure out why they are there, we'll have our answers (or something like that).
I've seen this, but what the heck is it? I don't believe its a bond. From what Rufus says, its a block of CSHD stock. Why the heck is it here? Just to show proof of a Euroclear account?
If its for proof...I hope its enough for the SEC, but from the SPR show, Rufus says it won't work. I believe it was said that the only way the SEC will believe we own the bonds is if we sell them.
quote:Originally posted by milliam: What's the deal with the block of stock on Euroclear? I'm still listening to the SPR show and Rufus is making a big deal about this. To me, it sounds like Rufus put some shares of CSHD onto Euroclear to prove that we have a Euroclear account. He told Simon that when we figure out why they are there, we'll have our answers (or something like that).
I've seen this, but what the heck is it? I don't believe its a bond. From what Rufus says, its a block of CSHD stock. Why the heck is it here? Just to show proof of a Euroclear account?
If its for proof...I hope its enough for the SEC, but from the SPR show, Rufus says it won't work. I believe it was said that the only way the SEC will believe we own the bonds is if we sell them.
Good night all.
Could that block be all the stock that was bought up in the trust?
IP: Logged |
What is weird is when I find the PR online I can't find it anywhere with the address on the bottom.
Someone on HSM posted the PR but included this at the bottom (which isn't on the PR)
This release should not be construed as a solicitation for funds in any manner. Contact: Ecowood, LTD. 507 Main Street Suite A Lake Dallas, TX 75065 (940) 321-1075 info*fundamazon.com
Source: Ecowood, LTD.
I can't seem the find a PR with the address at the bottom...
quote:Originally posted by Kevin Bailey: Is there anyone here who is attempting to liquidate a position in this stock? If so, are you having any luck putting your sells through? I'm interested in the actual liquidity of this stock, and where the volume is coming from.
Ive had both buy and sell orders on and off the boards.
I got filled for a buy today when i was trying different things just to see if anything would happen.. it was filled with two orders... a buy for ONE HUNDRED shares at .30... took a 90 and a 10 order to fill it.
What is weird is when I find the PR online I can't find it anywhere with the address on the bottom.
Someone on HSM posted the PR but included this at the bottom (which isn't on the PR)
This release should not be construed as a solicitation for funds in any manner. Contact: Ecowood, LTD. 507 Main Street Suite A Lake Dallas, TX 75065 (940) 321-1075 info*fundamazon.com
Source: Ecowood, LTD.
I can't seem the find a PR with the address at the bottom...
This whole thing started because someone showed me the address from a PR someone pasted in on HSM- the address doesn't check out nor does the phone number. Hence the pictures.....
Why would the PR not include the same contact information as this post on HSM? Shady characters around here...........
K enough entertaining myself this evening. I am off to ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz
-------------------- Got CSHD? Its fun
IP: Logged |
posted
I keep getting the idea that the SEC is stepping way over their bounds with this. The crap that Conversion should have to sell the bonds is ludicrous or are they just wise azzez that are trying to mock that Rufus said that CSHD owns the bonds, therefore the freedom to sell them.
IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by frank021474: [QUOTE]Originally posted by frank021474: [qb] Crazy- if you look up the address in texas for the Ecowood location in the PR's you get this
What is weird is when I find the PR online I can't find it anywhere with the address on the bottom.
Someone on HSM posted the PR but included this at the bottom (which isn't on the PR)
This release should not be construed as a solicitation for funds in any manner. Contact: Ecowood, LTD. 507 Main Street Suite A Lake Dallas, TX 75065 (940) 321-1075 info*fundamazon.com
Source: Ecowood, LTD.
I can't seem the find a PR with the address at the bottom...
So what you are saying is that despite any obvious evidence of fraud you are saying that the SEC and Federal court could not have shut down the operations already?
What was the purpose of the exhibits provided to the judge? If it wasn't for some sort of TRO/Complaint argument I don't see what the purose of it was for. If the court and SEC couldn't act on what it was given why would the SEC agree to the TRO which still let CSHD operate?
I know its a long process for them to be accused of Fraud etc.. but the courts position in late oct with the complaint and all exhibits provided from the SEC and CSHD was for something....the judge made a determination then of some sort??
Was it to agree with the SEC and allow the company onto the market to trade again despite the SEC and court knowing the entire thing was fraud?
Doesn't sound right.
I get that...
That is, you "don't see it"...hang around long enough and you will.
Amidst your somewhat disjointed points, you seem consistently to be asking for the SEC to invoke "instant karma." Perhaps so as not to have think about it, anymore?
I dunno...
yes, there *are* emergency provisions in place; here's one from today:
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Surf- on the Euroclear site- any idea why the date all the way to the right is Oct. 9th?
It must be the day of the transaction. Or the post date.
The question is, exactly what kind of transaction took place?
On the Euroclear site I searched other companies for the heck of it- I found other symbols other than stock, which is what it says in the Instrament column for Conver. Sol. I can't figure some of them out...These other symbols were:
EQWR, HYBWR, BOND, STOCK, & DR
Any idea what these things are? I know what BOND & STOCK is obviously but what do those other symbols stand for under instrument....
-------------------- ..just remember....Family is EVERYTHING!!
IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Am I being impatient or is it taking the new COE too long to get things done? CEO
Are you kidding ? John has done more in a week than Mike ever did or Rufus did in his last two months. ...... Still enjoy your posts though.
IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: I keep getting the idea that the SEC is stepping way over their bounds with this. The crap that Conversion should have to sell the bonds is ludicrous or are they just wise azzez that are trying to mock that Rufus said that CSHD owns the bonds, therefore the freedom to sell them.
this is the most interesting/baffling thing ive heard all day
IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: I keep getting the idea that the SEC is stepping way over their bounds with this. The crap that Conversion should have to sell the bonds is ludicrous or are they just wise azzez that are trying to mock that Rufus said that CSHD owns the bonds, therefore the freedom to sell them.
this is the most interesting/baffling thing ive heard all day
FWIW, Take everything Rufie says with a grain of salt....
-------------------- ..just remember....Family is EVERYTHING!!
IP: Logged |
Topic Closed
UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!
Printer-friendly view of this topic
![[Confused]](confused.gif)
![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Are you kidding ? John has done more in a week than Mike ever did or Rufus did in his last two months. ...... Still enjoy your posts though.
