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Ok Guys I just left Sabra a message I told her that I just had a few questions for her & left her my #. We will see what happens...........to be continued..........
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quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Then again, Rufus has specified his reasons for doing the 6-for-1 were to create liquidity. If we are all holding the day it moves to the board, there won't be any shares for sale - on one hand, that could drive the price up, but on the other, shares would have to change hands, or you would lose the "hey I am new on the NASDAQ" interest...am I correct in this line of thinking or way off base in your opinions? [/QB]
Good point. However, I see a difference between liquidity and inviting a mass sell-off of 1/7 of the floating shares. Keep in mind that there are millions of shares outstanding that are not in the hands of little investors. I could be wrong but there might be more in that pot than is sitting in ours right now.
If liquidity needs a boost the shares are there.
... In My humble Opinion
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quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Humble - do you know how much advance notice a transfer agent needs before they issue shares?
Unfortunately I do not think the answer to that question has a regulatory answer. The TA is a private business and will serve its client as quickly as possible. If there are a lot of names, brokerage accounts, etc, to deal with this may take a few days.
This another reason I do not think that the allocation shares being in our account must definitely happen before the play moves on. Rufus has proven to this point that he attempts to minimize the risk of waiting on or being at the mercy of other entities/agencies. If he were going to sit back and wait for the TA and all of the brokerage houses to get everything settled, he would be putting the timing of the game on their shoulders. Does this sound like something he wants to do?
... In My humble Opinion
Normally the TA is very informed, as they must execute whatever strategy the company is pursuing...and will have explicit instructions: they are quite literally the company's agent. Sometimes, lol, the instructions get confused...
Anyway, the TA normally does not deal directly with brokers but with the DTC, which then forwards to brokers.
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Then again, Rufus has specified his reasons for doing the 6-for-1 were to create liquidity. If we are all holding the day it moves to the board, there won't be any shares for sale - on one hand, that could drive the price up, but on the other, shares would have to change hands, or you would lose the "hey I am new on the NASDAQ" interest...am I correct in this line of thinking or way off base in your opinions?
Good point. However, I see a difference between liquidity and inviting a mass sell-off of 1/7 of the floating shares. Keep in mind that there are millions of shares outstanding that are not in the hands of little investors. I could be wrong but there might be more in that pot than is sitting in ours right now.
If liquidity needs a boost the shares are there.
... In My humble Opinion [/QB]
Agreed. With the low volume we have been seeing of late, I think the majority of the shares are going to be in the hands of people who were holding on the 16th, and those people will all receive the extra shares.
However, I think we are going to see somewhat of a sell off regardless of whether they hit the accounts before or after the move to the NASDAQ. If it is after, a board less manipulated should drive the price up, but once they hit, some shares are going to hit the market whether it is 1/7 or a larger amount. Conversely, if the shares reach our accounts before the move to the big board, people will hold knowing the NASDAQ is imminent, then sell the 1/7 or X amount once it debuts. The only question is what the price will be on the sell off IMHO.
FWIW, I do greatly appreciate your posts as well, humble...
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quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Then again, Rufus has specified his reasons for doing the 6-for-1 were to create liquidity. If we are all holding the day it moves to the board, there won't be any shares for sale - on one hand, that could drive the price up, but on the other, shares would have to change hands, or you would lose the "hey I am new on the NASDAQ" interest...am I correct in this line of thinking or way off base in your opinions?
Good point. However, I see a difference between liquidity and inviting a mass sell-off of 1/7 of the floating shares. Keep in mind that there are millions of shares outstanding that are not in the hands of little investors. I could be wrong but there might be more in that pot than is sitting in ours right now.
If liquidity needs a boost the shares are there.
... In My humble Opinion
Agreed. With the low volume we have been seeing of late, I think the majority of the shares are going to be in the hands of people who were holding on the 16th, and those people will all receive the extra shares.
However, I think we are going to see somewhat of a sell off regardless of whether they hit the accounts before or after the move to the NASDAQ. If it is after, a board less manipulated should drive the price up, but once they hit, some shares are going to hit the market whether it is 1/7 or a larger amount. Conversely, if the shares reach our accounts before the move to the big board, people will hold knowing the NASDAQ is imminent, then sell the 1/7 or X amount once it debuts. The only question is what the price will be on the sell off IMHO.
FWIW, I do greatly appreciate your posts as well, humble... [/QB]
True, when the reissued shares hit our accounts we can expect a gold rush. To what degree is up to market forces, and hopefully the more equitable forces of NASDAQ.
The timing is key though because the Conversion Solutions/ Fronthaul merger agreement guaranteed that the reset consideration would hold at a minimum level for one day - enough time to give any previous holders of the original Conversion Solutions enoough time to realize payday for the merger. After that he has legally fulfilled his obligations and the market will take over. If I could delay all of the 'new shares' from hitting the market for that one day, and my name was Rufus, I would.
Of course, we are all hoping for the enviable scenario whereby the price is on a prolonged climb leading up to and continuing after we get the 'new' shares. That would lead to a more organized transition of shares to new money.
... In My humble Opinion
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quote:Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent: Alright, I also called Barchart.com, talked to PETE. All they REALLY know is something is being changed, I even asked if it could be from delinquent OTCBB to nondelinquent OTCBB and he said yes that could be... so we have to wait for tonight... but before you hold your breath check out SEVI and SEVIE same thing as CSHD and CSHDE. But my ETRADE acount isn't bringing up any thing in Either CSHD and CSHDE as far as company info or PPS... so something is going on there... That's all I know Ima
we need more than this to verify the call!!!
IMHO
phone number ? no anwswer?
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Jenna, Keep us updated...and ask about selling now and still getting the six extra shares or buying now and getting them...everyone keeps forgetting that question...
I'm sure everyone would be much obliged...
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quote:Originally posted by CRab: Jenna, Keep us updated...and ask about selling now and still getting the six extra shares or buying now and getting them...everyone keeps forgetting that question...
I'm sure everyone would be much obliged...
I remember Rufus saying...sell the share and lose the other six.
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I had a very different experience than the others when talking with Sabra... She was very short with me & told me she has spoken with more than 3,000 people...she acted like I wasn't worth her time.........
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quote:Originally posted by CRab: Jenna, keep us updated...and ask about selling now and still getting the six extra shares or buying now and getting them...everyone keeps forgetting that question...
we'd be much obliged...
no extra shares if i buy after the 16th i think right , so no worry longs will get their extra shares new buyers wont get NOTHING>>
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quote:Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent: Alright, I also called Barchart.com, talked to PETE. All they REALLY know is something is being changed, I even asked if it could be from delinquent OTCBB to nondelinquent OTCBB and he said yes that could be... so we have to wait for tonight... but before you hold your breath check out SEVI and SEVIE same thing as CSHD and CSHDE. But my ETRADE acount isn't bringing up any thing in Either CSHD and CSHDE as far as company info or PPS... so something is going on there... That's all I know Ima
we need more than this to verify the call!!!
IMHO
phone number ? no anwswer?
dollar13 I called as well and got pretty much the same answer as Ima.
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Even though it doesn't matter because I have no info for you here's how the conversation went........maybe she only likes to talk with the men...... Least to say I don't care for her very much....
Questions for Sabra
1) How far in advance do you have to notify the transfer agent about the share issuance?
Can Not Comment
2) Did Conversion Solutions order a new shareholder’s list dated for Oct. 16th , will it be on the website, & how long does it take to get it?
Will Not Comment
3) What happens to the people who sold their shares after the 16th, do they lose the 6 shares?
Cannot comment
4) Regarding the move to Nasdaq, is there any timeframe that you are shooting for perhaps before the share issuance?
Can not Comment
5) Can we expect a PR today or tomorrow?
Sorry, that is insider info, & I can not comment on that . Ok? Have a nice day….
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Can anyone tell me how to get in touch with Mitch Sepaniak? I emailed him a week ago regarding the shareholders list and I have not heard back. I then tried calling him at 770-420-8270 and when I asked for Mr Sepaniak, the young lady was not sure who I was asking for, so I asked if this was Conversion Solutions (which it was) and then she said he was not located at that location and did not have a forwarding number. I also tried Ext. 2382 which doesn't exist on the system apparently. Any instructions on getting this right?
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks
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I don't even think she cared what I was asking she knew how she was going to answer before I asked after the 3rd question she said, "I guess you're striking out with your questions aren't you?"
"Then I said well I guess I'm going to still keep trying & I finished asking."
"She said Ok - Go ahead"
She had a southern accent & was not warm or freindly, just very flat...I should've called Rufus & started the conversation by telling him I was talking about him in my sleep!!!
I'm sorry I let you down..........
I'm actually kind of disgusted so I'm going to take a break...
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Jen .... Sorry that happened. Now I wonder who the real Sabra is. Is she the one that wants to please all of the shareholders like she told St. Matt and myself or is the real Sabra the cold non-responsive person you spoke with. I know that you are never rude or forward when you speak with someone, so I am having some real concern here.
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quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Even though it doesn't matter because I have no info for you here's how the conversation went........maybe she only likes to talk with the men...... Least to say I don't care for her very much....
I would interpret these responses as they are getting close to making the move and she does not want to be responsible for screwing anything up. I hope she did not get in trouble for what she told me last week. JMHO
Thanks for trying...
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1) How far in advance do you have to notify the transfer agent about the share issuance?
She said to me "What do you mean share issuance?" I was stunned & said "The 6:1 shares, the reset share issuance... & she said "Why are you peope worrying about that, that's our problem when we notify the transfer agent, it has nothing to do with you!"
Nice Lady- NOT!!!
Why are we worried about it? Probably because we have a few dollars invested in your company!!!! THAT'S WHY!!!!
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quote:Originally posted by Jenna: By the way question #1:
1) How far in advance do you have to notify the transfer agent about the share issuance?
She said to me "What do you mean share issuance?" I was stunned & said "The 6:1 shares, the reset share issuance... & she said "Why are you peope worrying about that, that's our problem when we notify the transfer agent, it has nothing to do with you!"
Nice Lady- NOT!!!
Why are we worried about it? Probably because we have a few dollars invested in your company!!!! THAT'S WHY!!!!
Wow...maybe she has PMS or something. lol
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quote:Originally posted by Jenna: By the way question #1:
1) How far in advance do you have to notify the transfer agent about the share issuance?
She said to me "What do you mean share issuance?" I was stunned & said "The 6:1 shares, the reset share issuance... & she said "Why are you peope worrying about that, that's our problem when we notify the transfer agent, it has nothing to do with you!"
Nice Lady- NOT!!!
Why are we worried about it? Probably because we have a few dollars invested in your company!!!! THAT'S WHY!!!!
We should not lose sight of the fact that the 6:1 deal is only valid if the price does not organically rise to $15 by Oct 30th (my interpretation of the 10K). This does not matter to us value-wise as we will have the same dollar totals whichever way it goes.
I agree that Sabra has been overwhelmed by this whole thing. She is tired and not able to say much at this point. From here on we are along for the ride. Additionally, it might be insulting to her and the company to doubt their ability to hit that $15 dollar mark if she has a head full of information telling her that that $15 is a foregone conclusion.
I take the call in a very positive light except for the ill-will carried away by Jenna.
... In My humble Opinion
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quote:Originally posted by Jenna: By the way question #1:
1) How far in advance do you have to notify the transfer agent about the share issuance?
She said to me "What do you mean share issuance?" I was stunned & said "The 6:1 shares, the reset share issuance... & she said "Why are you peope worrying about that, that's our problem when we notify the transfer agent, it has nothing to do with you!"
Nice Lady- NOT!!!
Why are we worried about it? Probably because we have a few dollars invested in your company!!!! THAT'S WHY!!!!
boy, talk about getting blindsided . . . St. Matt and Doc tell you how nice she is and then bam! Not very professional - taking a lot of phone calls is not an excuse. IMO. Sorry, Jenna!
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I had a very different experience than the others when talking with Sabra... She was very short with me & told me she has spoken with more than 3,000 people...she acted like I wasn't worth her time.........
I'm sorry your experience with her was less than adequate Jenna. I have spoken to her many times and she was very up beat and pleasant. I would assume that taking thousands of calls from investors, asking the same questions would take its toll on anyone, but that is why they should have an IR department. I have never seen a company with the types of assets and conections that CSHD has, give us the VP, COO and CEO's contact numbers as points of contact. Even stocks that trade sub-penny have IR departments to handle investors so the company's officers can do their jobs and increase productivity. I think is is completely counter-productive for us to be calling them all day and night, but that is the way they have set it up... I guess on the bright side, Sabra always answers or returns investors calls. I'll try to contact her later today to feel out the situation...
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That's weird I just got an email from Mitch... I sent him an email the 1st night the list came out because I thought my name wasn't on the list but it is. But I followed up with another email immediately stating that I was on the list---wow he must be super busy!!! That was like 2 or 3 weeks!
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quote:Originally posted by Jenna: By the way question #1:
1) How far in advance do you have to notify the transfer agent about the share issuance?
She said to me "What do you mean share issuance?" I was stunned & said "The 6:1 shares, the reset share issuance... & she said "Why are you peope worrying about that, that's our problem when we notify the transfer agent, it has nothing to do with you!"
Nice Lady- NOT!!!
Why are we worried about it? Probably because we have a few dollars invested in your company!!!! THAT'S WHY!!!!
I dont them, They are constantly being hassled by the 'little' people on the street.
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Normally I always used to see a letter next to prim ex: on cshd l2s, but not now. And its not missing in any other l2s i bring up. Does that mean anything?
Btw anyone know what the letters mean? P, Q, V, U?
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I sure hope Simon's chat with the SEC lawyer goes well tonite, there will be lots of listeners.
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