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quote:
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Wally this is "dilution", However in most cases when a company is diluting it is the company that is selling shares into the open market to obtain the funds...In this case the company is "giving" the shares to the share holders, the company is getting nothing from this...actually giving more control to the shareholders as to what the PPS does...sell it goes down...hold it goes up.
When one thinks of dilution...they think of a company throwing more shares out there and bringing the PPS down because the company has not increased its assets where this one is actually "giving" free shares AND more assets...so yes...dilution but of a different kind...for share holders sake..not company sake...IMO



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quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Wally this is "dilution", However in most cases when a company is diluting it is the company that is selling shares into the open market to obtain the funds...In this case the company is "giving" the shares to the share holders, the company is getting nothing from this.
When one thinks of dilution...they think of a company throwing more shares out there and bringing the PPS down because the company has not increased its assets where this one is actually "giving" free shares AND more assets...so yes...dilution but of a different kind...for share holders sake..not company sake...IMO

10, I do understand this. I understand what Rufus is trying to accomplish.

There are a couple of factors that will play a big part in how this all turns out.

(1) The negative posting by those who view this or should I say want to portray it as normal dilution, will latch onto it and not let go. At this time I cannot point to a rule or an example to prove them wrong. Let's just say I want to be locked and loaded when the attack comes.

(2) How will the market(meaning NASD, MM's and Broker's deal with it) will there be a corresponding adjustment of the share price as soon as the new shares are issued, like when a Forward split of Dividend is issued. I know that Rufus says this is neither one, but once again I can't find anything that supports it.

If we don't have the answer's or at least a fesible argument, other than Rufus said so. We will look like a cult that drank the Koolaid. I'm asking for help through examples and discussion. Remember that as of the 16th the idea that it doesn't matter what happens to the PPS, ended. THe price reset was accomplished through the additional issuance of shares. Therefore whatever the PPS is at the time we recieve this shares and how they are dealt with will directly reflect on our portfolio's.

We actually do need more than Rufus's word. I don't know how I would explain to someone looking to enter the stock on Monday, knowing that the 6 for 1 is comming and they are not participating, how they won't be negatively affected. I know putting myself in their shoes, I would wait until after it's settled to enter the stock.

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wally this is what glassman was talking about last night. how can we show by example that rufus can pull this off?

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quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
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Originally posted by 10of13:
Wally this is "dilution", However in most cases when a company is diluting it is the company that is selling shares into the open market to obtain the funds...In this case the company is "giving" the shares to the share holders, the company is getting nothing from this...actually giving more control to the shareholders as to what the PPS does...sell it goes down...hold it goes up.
When one thinks of dilution...they think of a company throwing more shares out there and bringing the PPS down because the company has not increased its assets where this one is actually "giving" free shares AND more assets...so yes...dilution but of a different kind...for share holders sake..not company sake...IMO


I both agree and disagree.

For the term "dilution" to ever be used we have to thin the valuation of the stock. Naked Short Selling is clear dilution. However, increasing the number of shares while increasing the base valuation of each share cannot be dilution. Each shareholder will not only own more shares but each share is worth more.

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quote:
Originally posted by 66inxs:
wally this is what glassman was talking about last night. how can we show by example that rufus can pull this off?

That's the million dollar question. Now, it may be that we can't. Even the officers of CSHD have said that it is something that has never been done before. Yet they had to have a basis in which to work off of. Rufus has said that it is done with P.I.P.E.S and Bonds on the other exchanges. I am currently looking into it.

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quote:
Originally posted by portman:
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Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Wally this is "dilution", However in most cases when a company is diluting it is the company that is selling shares into the open market to obtain the funds...In this case the company is "giving" the shares to the share holders, the company is getting nothing from this...actually giving more control to the shareholders as to what the PPS does...sell it goes down...hold it goes up.
When one thinks of dilution...they think of a company throwing more shares out there and bringing the PPS down because the company has not increased its assets where this one is actually "giving" free shares AND more assets...so yes...dilution but of a different kind...for share holders sake..not company sake...IMO


I both agree and disagree.

For the term "dilution" to ever be used we have to thin the valuation of the stock. Naked Short Selling is clear dilution. However, increasing the number of shares while increasing the base valuation of each share cannot be dilution. Each shareholder will not only own more shares but each share is worth more.

I do agree with you Portman, as we've had this discussion in the past. The kicker however is that the Book Value will be higher, not neccessarily the Price Per Share, unless the market agrees. I feel the key here is whether Rufus can actually issue the shares without the (market meaning NASD, OTCBB and the MM's) adjusting the Price Per Share lower to reflect the new shares. Book Value is great but as we can see now stocks don't always reflect the Book Value. I mean the current Book Value according to the 10K is over $7 a share and we are having trouble maintaining $2. It's all about perception.

Those of us who have been on the rollercoaster for months understand the concept. Those who recently entered or are looking to may not.

GLTA
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i thought moving cvsu through fhal that was acquired by furia organization that formed chsd was a stroke of genius. the water got so muddy that it was hard to follow what was really going on. the secretary of the state of delaware's site for the authorization to issue more shares might be critical too. to me, market perception will either make or break us. also, never underestimate the power of greed as people try to grab their cash first.

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quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
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Originally posted by portman:
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Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Wally this is "dilution", However in most cases when a company is diluting it is the company that is selling shares into the open market to obtain the funds...In this case the company is "giving" the shares to the share holders, the company is getting nothing from this...actually giving more control to the shareholders as to what the PPS does...sell it goes down...hold it goes up.
When one thinks of dilution...they think of a company throwing more shares out there and bringing the PPS down because the company has not increased its assets where this one is actually "giving" free shares AND more assets...so yes...dilution but of a different kind...for share holders sake..not company sake...IMO


I both agree and disagree.

For the term "dilution" to ever be used we have to thin the valuation of the stock. Naked Short Selling is clear dilution. However, increasing the number of shares while increasing the base valuation of each share cannot be dilution. Each shareholder will not only own more shares but each share is worth more.

I do agree with you Portman, as we've had this discussion in the past. The kicker however is that the Book Value will be higher, not neccessarily the Price Per Share, unless the market agrees. I feel the key here is whether Rufus can actually issue the shares without the (market meaning NASD, OTCBB and the MM's) adjusting the Price Per Share lower to reflect the new shares. Book Value is great but as we can see now stocks don't always reflect the Book Value. I mean the current Book Value according to the 10K is over $7 a share and we are having trouble maintaining $2. It's all about perception.

Those of us who have been on the rollercoaster for months understand the concept. Those who recently entered or are looking to may not.

GLTA
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*Warning...Speculation Below*

You are already adjusted lower...you are naked shorted. Supply and demand has dictated your position.

You cannot have meaningful covering of the short position without liquidity of real shares. Your current float is too low to work on a larger market. Your share structure must be adjusted to trigger covering and therefore properly adjust the PPS to valuation.

It is my opinion the short position is much larger than anticipated. Even at current prices it may be impossible to cover the position. If I am right those short today cannot cover without bankruptcy. They have no option but to continue to short and have a volatile price with momo in order to even attempt to cover losses.

IMHO the shorts already know they lost...the only hope they have is RPH screws up and the deal really is smoke. Even the E garnered them few shares. Those short have to sit and wait. Do you think they do not know those siting * $5 have real shares? They also know that as soon as they go after them they are screwed. The three sides are in a stare down...first to blink loses...RPH, shareholders and those short. Your trigger is no longer PPS and margin calls but shares in conjunction with all the other typical triggers.

Again the only question is how fast can the legal part of the deal be completed.

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IMO...there MUST be more coming. This PPS can not hold up and through the 30th with out more info, 8K PR and actual REASONS to buy into this at present...Yes all were jumping in for the "reset" well that has actually come to pass...why did Rufus do it this way? Is there something coming between now and the end of the month that he was simply buying time...to keep share holders holding?

There is a reason for it..and instead of just giving "us" our $15 bucks...he wanted us to hold...
in order for this particular company to hold it's PPS at or above where it currently is...RUFUS must and I believe he will, be "putting out" something...
I can't believe that he came this far to stay where it is at currently...
People are talking about DD and it needs to be done? Well we can't DD until Rufus makes the next move...in the mena time...holding and hoping!

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are the mm's able to trade iou's for shares back and forth to cover their short positions within the 3 day limit? that way they would just owe each other the difference in the share prices when they trade and even it out among themselves later. just an idea, i could be way off base on this, opinions, anyone ?

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quote:
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are the mm's able to trade iou's for shares back and forth to cover their short positions within the 3 day limit? that way they would just owe each other the difference in the share prices when they trade and even it out among themselves later. just an idea, i could be way off base on this, opinions, anyone ?

They are passing air back an forth...sometimes it is old and stale and some have speculated it is band new crisp autumn air. Regardless, air for air does not reduce the short position.

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How many times do you select few have to start a new thread ? Everytime Rufus takes a sh__ ?
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i agree with that but it buys them 3 more days to play the game, etc. etc. etc.

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Babe, great post. You must be well rested to have dug up all that.! [Wink]

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
10ksb subpenny summary 10.16 (compiled from the board members not my personal transcription)


CONVERSATION WITH RUFUS:

"Everything’s been a strategic move for the shareholders"

"Getting several hundred million in interest!"

They have 15 Billion total that can be booked which is available right now. It's not an overnight deal. we have been working on this for a long time.

Rufus said Right- NOT DILUTION!!!


"The Big Show is always the plan" referring to Nasdaq

"PPS should increase" "The shares you have right now have 6 more attached if you dump your share you're dumping everything that goes with it"


RUFUS:

A share issuance due to a reorganization through a merger. These are not dividend shares or forward splits. It's been filed since the original 8K merger agreement.


These shares will NOT be restricted If you sold today your out of luck, if you bought today you get the 6, no settlement waiting or anything

"Go away for 2 weeks, play soccer, go fishin' do whatever, in 2 weeks your new shares will be there."


"Everything’s starting from here I said after the 10K the ball starts rolling, now it's all down here from here."


The reset was posted in the filings from the original 8K to the 8KA. It's not a forward split per say, it's an issuance of shares due to a reset based on the reorganization merger.

That's what I've gleaned from RUFUS. He just mentioned PIPE resets. Not normal here on the OTCBB but normal on bigger stocks.


Q: Was it part of the plan all along?

A: This was all laid out... This way he doesn't need approval, knew he was going to do it this was from the beginning


"It's still $15 / share if you can't do the math I can't help you, it's so simple it's stupid!"

"We met the Qualifications for Nasdaq Tues of Last week!!!!!"

Said that CSHD has met the requirements for up listing since last Tuesday- and to watch for news.

"Go read documents very carefully.........JV's do not receive any funds until we file S3's"

Q: If the PPS is below $11 on the 30th will you reset to $11?

A: No, you've all received your shares... we're giving you the money.....it's for your benefit, it's for your liquidity, not ours"


Rufus said he still has some ACES up his sleeve!

Q: If the PPS stays at around $2 / share in January, then what?

A; "Impossible, there’s a few more steps in the ladder, if it does that I'll be one surprised puppy.

Q: Why wait 'til the 30th?

A: Because I have to let Nasdaq know.

Q: Do they have to approve it?

A: What do they have to approve. I don't have to ask them. I just have to notify them. The only thing they regulate is the time frame - 1o days"

Q: Do you believe it can go to $100?


A: Yes

Q: When?

A: in a few weeks!!

It's up to the shareholder...starve the beast....if you don't flip it hold it, name your price...if you starve the beast..he will go away.......if no one sold for 2 weeks there's no telling where the PPS can go!!!!


Rufus just said that everyone is getting confused because they are thinking of this as a dividend or Forward split and it is neither.
It is part of a reorganization merger and the shares were given in consideration of the Price reset. Cash dividends are in the future of the company. It a share issuance not a dividend or split.


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this dilutes the stock even more. naked shorting is more flagrant where the mm's don't even attempt to hide it.

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Portman,

Interesting and very real possibility.

As far as the MM's passing air shares, from the looks of the recent volume I'd say that is drying up quickly. Technically they cannot short the stock until they are off the SHO threshold report. As I said Technically. So it doesn't mean that they have stopped but I'm sure that it has slowed considerably.

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quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
you are right, i wasnt specific enough.
the auditor, the attorney... whomever.
i mean, does a CEO really read his own entire 10K and proofread/correct the professionals he hired to draft it?

i.dont.think.so.

and fyi, see my quote above from the 10KSB-A.
the date says IS THE 30TH OF OCTOBER.

and we dont need to argue what the definition of is, is. Do we Bill? [Wink]

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the auditor is not the person who files the 10k rufus and the company are. the auditors job ends when he provides the opinion. however it would be interesting to know who prepared the 10k for filing. rufus could have been let down by his attorney!


Cool...Wally is back...thanks man. BB, Dog, Crab (and I'm only through the first page), GREAT JOB of reposting links and Interviews to old DD.

Babe, since the Enron deal, all CEO's are supposed to read and sign off on all 10-K's and 10-Q's. New rule put in by Bush. Rufus (like Bush) seems like the kind of guy that would do his homework before he hires someone and then...he trusts them completely. As we have learned with Bush, this can be a bad thing.

Bet that won't happen again... [Wink]

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quote:
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Portman,

Interesting and very real possibility.

As far as the MM's passing air shares, from the looks of the recent volume I'd say that is drying up quickly. Technically they cannot short the stock until they are off the SHO threshold report. As I said Technically. So it doesn't mean that they have stopped but I'm sure that it has slowed considerably.

GLTA
Wally

The less shareholders trade the more apparent what they are really doing is. Take away the cover and there they are in all their glory.

Does anyone get it yet?

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Hope I wasn't too confusing and that everybody answered your question. He needs to file through the state he incorporated in (Delaware). Any change in the a/s, issuing of dividends, splits must be performed through the Secretary of State's office. The question I was hinting at was why hasn't he done it already?

He hasn't filed now because it would cripple CSHD's PPS. According to Rufus- he believes CSHD to be an undervalued stock at the current PPS- but still the market doesn't appear to believe him, otherwise they'd be snapping it up at this price.

To add a filing calling for an addition of shares(through whatever mechanism hedeems fit) would place even more doubt in the head of new investors and send the PPS spiraling even lower.

IMO opinion he's delaying the filing as late as possible so that 1) So he can release a barrage of PR's that will hopefully light a fire under the PPS 2) Force shorts to cover in the frenzy. I'm not sure if it'll work; I guess it'll all play out once he starts putting the wheels in motion.

Of course I could be completely wrong and he could surprise everybody again. Such is the saga of CSHD. Whatever Rufie boy does, I hope it works.

Sorry for being confusing.

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Originally posted by Jenna:
Bilgert - yesterday in different words you said you were concerned that Rufus had not filed anything with the State of Delaware regarding the share issuance. I thought all he had to do was notify Nasdaq about it. Your statement confused me. I was searching all last night for what the requirments are for giving shares as part of a merger & found nothing about filing anything except with SEC & Nasdaq.

Do you know for sure if he was supposed to file that with anyone else?


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quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
How many times do you select few have to start a new thread ? Everytime Rufus takes a sh__ ?

sorry tyleemary, you missed the boat, please go to penny stocks, thanks.
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quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
How many times do you select few have to start a new thread ? Everytime Rufus takes a sh__ ?

no tylee just everytime I take a sh__
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Book Value is great but as we can see now stocks don't always reflect the Book Value. I mean the current Book Value according to the 10K is over $7 a share and we are having trouble maintaining $2. It's all about perception.


The only thing is while this statement is true, remember it probably would be at Least * 7 / share if the stock was not being manipulated right now by the MM's! We watch sales going through & yet the PPS does not go up or it goes up .01 Then a small sale goes through & we see it drop .10!! Manipulation at its best...They couldn't get away with this as much if we were on the Big Board!!! I hope we can move to Nasdaq quick so this manipulation will stop, then our PPS will reflect what they are really worth.

The question is can we get there now that we had an "E"...that's what I'm "investigating" now...

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quote:
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There is also another area we should explore. I believe that Rufus has mentioned this in the past.

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quote:Originally posted by dog:
My concern is that the "E", from the auditor's opinion not being on the 10-k will hurt a possible NASDAQ move.

I agree. Maybe not in the long run but in the short term. I could be wrong but I remember something about also filing an Form S-3. One of the qualifications is that all of your previous filings have been compliant. Here's the S-3 form.

http://www.sec.gov/divisions/corpfin/forms/s-3.htm

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Wally...FWIW, Sabra told me it would not affect the move in any way. Maybe Rufus was right...they have already been accepted.

Still scratching my head over this one though. [Confused]

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quote:
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Originally posted by 10of13:
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Originally posted by 10of13:
Wally this is "dilution", However in most cases when a company is diluting it is the company that is selling shares into the open market to obtain the funds...In this case the company is "giving" the shares to the share holders, the company is getting nothing from this...actually giving more control to the shareholders as to what the PPS does...sell it goes down...hold it goes up.
When one thinks of dilution...they think of a company throwing more shares out there and bringing the PPS down because the company has not increased its assets where this one is actually "giving" free shares AND more assets...so yes...dilution but of a different kind...for share holders sake..not company sake...IMO


I both agree and disagree.

For the term "dilution" to ever be used we have to thin the valuation of the stock. Naked Short Selling is clear dilution. However, increasing the number of shares while increasing the base valuation of each share cannot be dilution. Each shareholder will not only own more shares but each share is worth more.

IMO this is not dilution, the only ones huting will be the shot sellers.Rufas is just getting us our due money's back from mm's that have kept our origal shares worth pennies. I beleive everyone will make out except for short sellers.
When every long share holder gets +6 shares that stay's with the CO. CSHD, We are CSHD. We (CSHD) get + 6 shares and the pps is higher than when we were granted them.
The CO. (CSHD) our company, benifits highly. Shorties are not the CO. and they will not benifit, they will lose. If we are long and those who stay long are CSHD, I do think we should take paychecks as needed though.

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For the term "dilution" to ever be used we have to thin the valuation of the stock. Naked Short Selling is clear dilution. However, increasing the number of shares while increasing the base valuation of each share cannot be dilution. Each shareholder will not only own more shares but each share is worth more.

I do agree with you Portman, as we've had this discussion in the past. The kicker however is that the Book Value will be higher, not neccessarily the Price Per Share, unless the market agrees. I feel the key here is whether Rufus can actually issue the shares without the (market meaning NASD, OTCBB and the MM's) adjusting the Price Per Share lower to reflect the new shares. Book Value is great but as we can see now stocks don't always reflect the Book Value. I mean the current Book Value according to the 10K is over $7 a share and we are having trouble maintaining $2. It's all about perception.

Those of us who have been on the rollercoaster for months understand the concept. Those who recently entered or are looking to may not.

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Great post Wally...this is the only REAL question remaining as far as I'm concerned. Not sure how Rufus will pull this part of it off. I'm hoping the "bomb" and the "one fell swoop" will take care of that.

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Thanx Bilgert & Wally too. That was some info I didn't know so much appreciated.

So many times Rufus has proved that every step is calculated & stategic, so I wonder if your theory of hitting us with some PR's (which would cause the PPS to go up) THEN filing is the plan!

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Hope I wasn't too confusing and that everybody answered your question. He needs to file through the state he incorporated in (Delaware). Any change in the a/s, issuing of dividends, splits must be performed through the Secretary of State's office. The question I was hinting at was why hasn't he done it already?

He hasn't filed now because it would cripple CSHD's PPS. According to Rufus- he believes CSHD to be an undervalued stock at the current PPS- but still the market doesn't appear to believe him, otherwise they'd be snapping it up at this price.

To add a filing calling for an addition of shares(through whatever mechanism hedeems fit) would place even more doubt in the head of new investors and send the PPS spiraling even lower.

IMO opinion he's delaying the filing as late as possible so that 1) So he can release a barrage of PR's that will hopefully light a fire under the PPS 2) Force shorts to cover in the frenzy. I'm not sure if it'll work; I guess it'll all play out once he starts putting the wheels in motion.

Of course I could be completely wrong and he could surprise everybody again. Such is the saga of CSHD. Whatever Rufie boy does, I hope it works.

Sorry for being confusing.

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Bilgert - yesterday in different words you said you were concerned that Rufus had not filed anything with the State of Delaware regarding the share issuance. I thought all he had to do was notify Nasdaq about it. Your statement confused me. I was searching all last night for what the requirments are for giving shares as part of a merger & found nothing about filing anything except with SEC & Nasdaq.

Do you know for sure if he was supposed to file that with anyone else?




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quote:
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For the term "dilution" to ever be used we have to thin the valuation of the stock. Naked Short Selling is clear dilution. However, increasing the number of shares while increasing the base valuation of each share cannot be dilution. Each shareholder will not only own more shares but each share is worth more.

I do agree with you Portman, as we've had this discussion in the past. The kicker however is that the Book Value will be higher, not neccessarily the Price Per Share, unless the market agrees. I feel the key here is whether Rufus can actually issue the shares without the (market meaning NASD, OTCBB and the MM's) adjusting the Price Per Share lower to reflect the new shares. Book Value is great but as we can see now stocks don't always reflect the Book Value. I mean the current Book Value according to the 10K is over $7 a share and we are having trouble maintaining $2. It's all about perception.

Those of us who have been on the rollercoaster for months understand the concept. Those who recently entered or are looking to may not.

GLTA
Wally

Great post Wally...this is the only REAL question remaining as far as I'm concerned. Not sure how Rufus will pull this part of it off. I'm hoping the "bomb" and the "one fell swoop" will take care of that. [/QB]
Didn't Dabbs say the bomb was dropped, what you see is what you get ST. Its happening now.
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Watch the pps next week, up, up and away!!!
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I got the quote below from a 8/31/05 PR. Could be out of date, but it appears that CVSU had a 40% interest in the AISS joint venture. I can't find any financials on AISS or Georgia Aerospace, so it's difficult to assign a value to the buyout- and how much CSHD was liable.

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/08-31-200 5/0004097538&EDATE=

"Georgia Aerospace is excited about the 40% equity position of Conversion Solutions in this venture. The great leadership at Conversion will bring excellent financial credentials with their Wall Street knowledge and exposure to the new entity AISS," stated Dr. Thomas Mensah, inventor, CEO and Founder of Georgia Aerospace Systems.


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Bilgert - yesterday in different words you said you were concerned that Rufus had not filed anything with the State of Delaware regarding the share issuance. I thought all he had to do was notify Nasdaq about it. Your statement confused me. I was searching all last night for what the requirments are for giving shares as part of a merger & found nothing about filing anything except with SEC & Nasdaq.

Do you know for sure if he was supposed to file that with anyone else?

In order for a company to change the Authorized Shares structure they need to file an amendment to the articles of incorporation with the Secretary of State in the state that they are incorporated. Which in this case is Delaware. That step will be neccessary prior to them being able to issue us additional shares(the 6-1 threshold price reset shares).

On another related note, when the board of directors took action to remove Thomas Mensah from AISS, they stated that individuals: From the PR and 10K
KENNESAW, Ga., September 21, 2006-- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC BB: CSHD), a Delaware Corporation announces the following current events have taken place.

"CSHD would like to announce that during an Emergency Board meeting called for the Joint Venture Corporation of American International Smart Structure it was voted and resolved to remove Dr. Thomas Mensah as President and CEO of AISS and to offer a share swap transaction to all Georgia Aerospace shareholders.

Notice: To all Georgia Aerospace shareholders please contact Mitchell Sepaniak at 770-420-8270 Extension 2382 to arrange a share swap transaction for CSHD."

We need to be prepared for this because, IMO, the Authorized Shares structure will have to be increased to between 800M and 1B shares. Believe me when I say that much will be made of this. Those critical of the company and intent on bashing it will use it as the sign of massive dilution. We need to discuss it as well as be prepared for it.

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bilgert, read back thru the threads and you will find the answer to that one!
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bilgert, read back thru the threads and you will find the answer to that one!

Show me, please.
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quote:
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bilgert, read back thru the threads and you will find the answer to that one!

Show me, please.
You want me to look thru all those posts for you, sorry, been there done that! WE wen't thru this 6 weeks ago! Look back and you will see, do your DD
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I truely feel like we've done all we could-

I'm bored! So , I think I'll take Rufus' advice......

"Go away for 2 weeks, play soccer, go fishin' do whatever, in 2 weeks your new shares will be there."

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I just want to take a quick minute to clear the air and let people know where I was comming from with my last post on the other thread. I just want to get it out and behind us. Okay?

First off, I wasn't mad or upset at anyone. I think blowing off some steam is good, as long as it doesn't get overdone. I had been under the impression that the late evenings and weekends were appropriate. Even so it was the calls I began receiving from Friends and relatives who had either invested or were looking to invest that completely frustrated me. I had pointed them to our board because of it's excellence. That day during market hours with the PPS in flux some of the newer investor, who aren't neccessarily as comfortable with the events that have transpired, were worried. Comming to the board looking for info and finding very little they became nervous. I attempted a few times by posting questions etc to get us back to the stock. Some were attempting to respond and give some info but with the pictures it made it hard to find. By the way 10, I do enjoy the picture thread just don't have any of my own to share, still in the dark ages when it comes to digital cameras.

I thought of other investors who had recently purchased or might be looking to purchase and the alternative of them going to IHUB and reading the bashfest or HSM and if not getting blown off completely then being accused of being a basher and pounded. Not good thoughts to invision since our position in the stock is now PPS sensitive.

If I offended anyone. I apologize. But I do feel it is neccessary to have a place to go and ask questions, get answers and have great discussion like we are now. Thanks Dog for starting a new board. Thanks St. Matt for your DD and comming up with the idea of a DD board, even though I believe 10 originally tried to start one that kind of fizzled, I wish it hadn't.

I hope everybody comes and contributes. This is a critical week for us all.

I'm addicted to Allstocks, CSDH and the fine people I have come to know on this board.

GLTA
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