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We got no rise so far for the E being thrown out. That is Odd

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finance.yahoo is showing financial report from saturday.. but it appears to be a little fubared due to the e being off.

anyone know what this was that was filed saturday?

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This is interesting- Barchart shows CSHD with "NASDAQQ4" instead of OTC

Here is CSHD (Remove space after q)
http://q uote.barchart.com/quote.asp?sym=CSHD&code=BEURS

Here is PAIV (OTC stock)
http://qu ote.barchart.com/quote.asp?sym=pavc&code=BEURS

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The beast is not being feed........the mm's are between the proverbial rock and a hard place...... [Wink]

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Well, i have to run. 5pm here!

Dont do anything crazy while im gone!! LOL

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quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by wallymac:
Portman,

Interesting and very real possibility.

As far as the MM's passing air shares, from the looks of the recent volume I'd say that is drying up quickly. Technically they cannot short the stock until they are off the SHO threshold report. As I said Technically. So it doesn't mean that they have stopped but I'm sure that it has slowed considerably.

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http://www.sec.gov/spotlight/keyregshoissues.htm

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"Regulation SHO does not require close-outs of "grandfathered" fails. As noted above, "grandfathered" status applies where the fail position was established prior to the security becoming a threshold security. However, any new fails in a security on the threshold list are subject to the mandatory close-out provisions."

What this is saying is that all the FTD's that were passed out BEFORE we went on the SHO list are "grandfathered" -looked over if you will.

But the kicker is the last line: "However, any new fails in a security on the threshold list are subject to the mandatory close-out provisions."

Or in other words... Any NEW FTD's will have to be cleaned up, under SHO it's 3 days I believe. So yes they can and ARE shorting it. That's NOT an opinion...

Here's how we know...
Those who have technical indicators pull up your charts and a "Accumulation/Distribution" Indicator along with Full Stochastoc 10/3/10.

What Acc/Distr. Indicator does:
A momentum indicator which tries to gauge supply and demand by discovering if investors are generally “Accumulating” (buying) or “Distributing” (Selling) a certain stock by identifying divergences between stock price and volume flow. It is calculated using the following formula:

Acc/Dist = ((Close – Low) – (High – Close)) / (High – Low) * Period's volume

Now, KNOWING what this indicator does is the key, now when you put a "Full Stochastic" indicator below it, you can CLEARLY see when Stochastic DIPS so does the Acc/Dist. indicator.

Look at the stock NXG on a YEAR/daily chart.
The middle of May there was a dip, ALL my indicators weakened JUST LIKE THEY "SHOULD."
*note Acc/Dist. is also POSITIVE.

Look at one more (IMPORTANT!)
Pull up a 6 month day chart on "ZION"
Notice the zero (neutral) line, the indicator
went negative around 7/10 when there was a selloff, when the uptrend started the Acc/Dist. line crosses back to the POSITIVE, and the price went up! -Normal ~

Now let's pull up CSHD...
6 month day chart, notice that Acc/Dist is buried in the NEGATIVE! -22!
It went Negative when we ran UP in price!! (??)

On 7/18 while Stochastic and MACD went up, Acc/Dist. went down!

How the heck can that be?!! -It CAN'T!

Acc/Distr. measuresures “Accumulating” (buying) or “Distributing” (Selling) of a stock, and on 7/18 there were 20 million shares bought on a continued run of CSHD.

I believe Portman is right when he said that there is a bigger short position here then what we think, and that there may indeed be some bankrupt short people. With all the buying and holding and even the "No Flip" list that was started at HSM, we are STILL Negative as far as investors accumalating? Come on!...

The only way that could happen is with FTD's (Naked Shorts). IMO ~

Now pull up SSSU, another stock in the news doing a NOBO list and in war with naked shorts. Here the Acc/Dist. indicator was at -125 at one time!

Again, study the two "normal" stocks NXG and ZION, look how the charts SHOULD look, then pull up CSHD and SSSU and "SEE" what naked shorting does to the Acc/Distr. Indicator.

Look at ADOT.
ADOT appears to be on the move UP sometime soon.
Notice here that Stochastic has been in the "oversold" level for almost 3 months! Acc/Distr. has been rising up just like a plane taking off while Stochastic has been oversold,
again this is normal, CSHD, SSSU charts, -NOT normal.

What I just showed you will keep you out of stocks that are being Naked Shorted.

BUMP (Important) also look at CHDT with Acc./Dist. indicator, being Naked Shorted to DEATH! IMO

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quote:
Originally posted by frank021474:
This is interesting- Barchart shows CSHD with "NASDAQQ4" instead of OTC

Here is CSHD (Remove space after q)
http://q uote.barchart.com/quote.asp?sym=CSHD&code=BEURS

Here is PAIV (OTC stock)
http://qu ote.barchart.com/quote.asp?sym=pavc&code=BEURS

Oh how I wish...

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Tim....I do not find any new filings on the SEC website...last filing there is the amended 10KSB filed on October 19th.

http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=furia+organization+inc&CIK=&file num=&State=&SIC=&owner=include&action=getcompany

Don't know what is going on with Yahoo? [Confused] .....

quote:
Originally posted by TimW:
finance.yahoo is showing financial report from saturday.. but it appears to be a little fubared due to the e being off.

anyone know what this was that was filed saturday?



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I'm sure that all the reporting agencies are having issues with the double name change happening. I wouldn't worry too much about it guys.

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quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I'm sure that all the reporting agencies are having issues with the double name change happening. I wouldn't worry too much about it guys.

I wouldn't think so, Doni - E's are pretty common, are they not?

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It has to be something weird with yahoo... no other site shows anything for saturday for CSHD or CSHDE.

Hrm.

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quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenna:
After we get our shares, if this gets to just under $15 / share..I will be a millionaire!!! Have you guys figured your millionarie magic #?

Well I won't be a millionare but I will be able to get myself out of debt and have some leftovers. [Smile]
I'm a little fish in the BIG SEA as well, but it will make the account green for a change [Smile]
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Actually it's just (NASDAQ4)...I can't seem to find what that means though...

I've compared it to OTC and OTC:BB stocks...and they do indeed say OTC:BB if that is the exchange...I used SSSU as my example...

Google gives me no valid results for NASDAQ4...anyone have any clue? I think it's just some internal error code or something denoting the symbol change today...


quote:
Originally posted by frank021474:
This is interesting- Barchart shows CSHD with "NASDAQQ4" instead of OTC

Here is CSHD (Remove space after q)
http://q uote.barchart.com/quote.asp?sym=CSHD&code=BEURS

Here is PAIV (OTC stock)
http://qu ote.barchart.com/quote.asp?sym=pavc&code=BEURS


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I "hear" lots of folks saying they won't be a millionaire....how do you know? Granted, we likely won't see $100 a share any time soon, but you would have had to have a VERY small amount of shares prior to the 16th not to have a possibility of it. I only had a couple thousand myself...and I know my numbers...ALL of them.

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TIM ~ Bump from the old thread...

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posted October 20, 2006 10:33
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Regarding the Yahoo financials. This is exactly what I was taking about when I said that we needed a 10KSB rather than audited financials in an 8K filing. Financial software looks for the numbers in the 10KSB filing, not in other misc. filings.

The 10KSB numbers a couple of days after the filing begin to get recorded in applications sush as the data company that feeds Yahoo Finance. The companies history was and always will be FHAL, but getting Conversion's numbers out will help financial institutions start drawing the picture of CSHD's future. The numbers show a company that made only 434 thousand then pissed away 719 thousand to have a total income of -285 thousand in 2005. That same company with this awesome reverse merger. In 2006 made 19.8 Million, spent 1.3 Million, and has $18.5 Million dollars to show for it. Not a bad year. these numbers will go a long way in improving the company's credit rating, physical growth, and financial strength.

Not only is it a testament to how much better a deal the reverse merger was for old FHAL share holders, but it shows a very positive future knowing that they only have minimal operating expendatures, and are already working in the green even before the merger.

here is the link again:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=CSHDE.OB&annual

I think the data is provided by Capital IQ which is a division of Standard & Poor's so this information is everywhere now. So look forward to the ride because now the financial world is more informed as to what we have here, and as the price grows their eyes will be constantly aimed in our direction.

http://www.capitaliq.com/

I really want the next PR to be meaty enough to take us over $5. That is the general "qualifier" for large institutions to get involved. The faster we get there the better. And once we are there I doubt we ever see this sub $2 ever again now that their software can do the math as easily as we have been able to for the past couple of months.

If you go to the Capital IQ web site look at the company list scrolling in the small blue section in the header. You will see and example of how many companies now have our "New" FIN numbers.

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Thanks Tax,

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Anyone notice last trade times are about 5 minutes in between trade.. this thing is coming to a real halt..
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"you don't count your money while you're sitting at the table, there will be time enough for counting when the day is done"

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Yes, thanks Tax.
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Not many weak hands out there this AM. MMs having trouble to get any shares. Too bad.
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quote:
Originally posted by 66inxs:
"you don't count your money while you're sitting at the table, there will be time enough for counting when the day is done"

kenny rogers

Yeah, we've all posted that before...and I certainly wouldn't spend a single dime, but I do believe in planning....you have to do some math to know if you want to sell or hold for tax implications. I am looking at it from that vantage point.

Speaking of DD, maybe that is something to dig into - the tax implications of the threshold reset? Anyone agree it is a worthy subject? If so, I will start digging...

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Don't Jinx us Sherri!!!!!!!!

Wow, a stock board where we all sit around singing Kenny Rogers tunes....This is surreal [Smile]

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no truer words were ever spoken sherriT. i will start digging on this too as short term capital gains are a tax perference item subject to amt. it is almost november and too late in the year for some of us to create a big tax liability

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quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Don't Jinx us Sherri!!!!!!!!

Wow, a stock board where we all sit around singing Kenny Rogers tunes....This is surreal [Smile]

Carefull, we might have to start a new thread for that... [Smile]
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From Yahoo:

FURIA ORGANIZATION INC /DE/ Financials
EDGAR Online Financials (Sat, Oct 21)


That 'DE' indicates that this 'PR' is supposed to be coming from Germany I think.

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quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Don't Jinx us Sherri!!!!!!!!

Wow, a stock board where we all sit around singing Kenny Rogers tunes....This is surreal [Smile]

Carefull, we might have to start a new thread for that... [Smile]
LOL - nice one, new2!

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the tax liability is created at the instant the stock is sold and has to be reported. no way to roll it or reinvest it. the only way to escape is if you have capital losses equal to or greater than your capital gains. maximum nonbusiness capital loss that can be realized is 3000 per year. hope this helps.

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Whats the link to the picture board?

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basis is basis...it all goes back to whatever you paid for your initial shares...that original amount and the amount you sold the equivalent shares for is all you go off of for tax purposes...

quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:
Originally posted by 66inxs:
"you don't count your money while you're sitting at the table, there will be time enough for counting when the day is done"

kenny rogers

Yeah, we've all posted that before...and I certainly wouldn't spend a single dime, but I do believe in planning....you have to do some math to know if you want to sell or hold for tax implications. I am looking at it from that vantage point.

Speaking of DD, maybe that is something to dig into - the tax implications of the threshold reset? Anyone agree it is a worthy subject? If so, I will start digging...


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From HSM:

Makes you wonder...
Very interesting...I typed in CSHD and it came up NASDAQ4

I typed in CSHDE.....(I know the E is gone now) but it came up OTC

http://quotes.barchart.com/quote.asp?sym=CSHDE

My point is I would have expected them to say the same thing........

And every single other OTC stock I type in says OTC

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exactly CRab. sales price less adjusted tax basis(cost plus any applicable commissions)= taxable long term or short term capital gain.

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Doni are we going to get pics of the baby!?

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/14 /t/002682/p/4.html#000154

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Whats the link to the picture board?



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quote:
Originally posted by 66inxs:
exactly CRab. sales price less adjusted tax basis(cost plus any applicable commissions)= taxable long term or short term capital gain.

Yes, but don't you pay less in the long term side than the short term? By enough percentage points that it makes a difference?

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This NASDAQ4 thing is mighty interesting. I'm searching into it now. So far, the only thing I've found is a website that lists companies in 5 different categories.

Also, if you put JDSU into the search, it brings back a NASDAQ4 as well.

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yes sherri the long term capital tax rate is capped around 18 to 22%. holding period is one year and a day. short term capital gains are taxed as ordinary income (less than one year holding period. my chsd is all under one year holding period.

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