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I am trying to figure out why there is so much smear on Palin. She really doesnt seem that bad. She is a politician for crying out loud what do you want? A lof of them are a bunch of lawyers that want to have all the power.
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quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: I am trying to figure out why there is so much smear on Palin. She really doesnt seem that bad. She is a politician for crying out loud what do you want? A lof of them are a bunch of lawyers that want to have all the power.
First off I really don't think it's a smear, you've been listening to the McCain campaign too much.
She is/was new and off the charts so to speak. People really didn't know anything about her when McCain picked her. It's natural that with only a couple of months to go before placing a vote people would want to know more about her and her stand on issues.
You also have to remember that she is the one that made the claim about the Bridge to nowhere. Unless people want to take politicians at their word and not check facts, then of course people would want to know more aobut it. Well, the research showed a much different story than what she portrayed. If she had backed off her statement a little it might be overlooked as padding one's resume but instead she has continued to use the line even after it has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that she didn't do what she said.
Think of her as a stock that you are doing DD on. Do you believe everything that is PR'd by the company? Do you take CEO's at their word? Heck, many times, even in doing DD(I'm talking multiple people), we still get fooled.
McCain and Biden are like Big Board stocks that have been around for years. People know more about them but even on big board stocks you need to do ongoing DD. Bear Stearns and Lehman are good examples. Obama, IMO, is like the OTCBB, we know more about him and can find more information because he has been on the campaign trail for around 2 yrs. Sarah Palin is a Pink Sheet. Yes she does have a record in the State of Alaska but we need to ferret out who she is.
Think of a company doing a Reverse Merger into a Pink. There will be pumpers and bashers. You can't believe either one completely you need to verify it for yourself.
Why do you think we always ask for links? So that we can read it and verify it.
I read her State of the State speech on the Alaska Gov site and was impressed with it but of course the campaign hasn't bothered to put that info out there, instead they would rather play up her everyday woman appeal and protect her from the big bad media.
I don't believe she is a kook. I think she had/has a promising career but has tried to move up too fast. I don't think she is ready for the big leagues not Nationally and especially not internationally.
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I'll give you another illustration. Not once in this campaign or during the primaries has there been any mention of McCain and his link to Charles Keating. Why? Because it was brought out in the past so it's old news. Though he was cleared of wrong doing in the investigation, the final report said he used wrong judgement. Yet you have the ongoing discussion about Obama and his Pastor and Ayers because Obama went to a certain church and served on a board.
If you don't know who Keating is look up John McCain/Keating or what was known as the Keating 5.
Old news is old news. Right now Sarah Palin is news and therefore topical.
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quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: I am trying to figure out why there is so much smear on Palin. She really doesnt seem that bad. She is a politician for crying out loud what do you want? A lof of them are a bunch of lawyers that want to have all the power.
You are asking now that the democrats not do with Palin exactly the same thing you insisted was ok and eagerly participated in when it was done to Obama only days ago.
quote:Originally posted by bond006: When I was making under 50,000.00 a year I was paying a good amount of taxes. And I could have used it for food clothes tires and many more things
Social security & Medicare take 7.5%. Look at the charts you should have paid very close to no income tax.
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Palin Won't Cooperate in Probe of Trooper Firing, Campaign Says
It’s a purely political decision. By not cooperating she will continue to get much of the press. This will keep the focus on her. Remember the old saying that any press is good press. The Republican ticket and further bemoan her treatment by the media and right wing b loggers justifying it by calling it one more example of Palin being attacked.
I doubt that anything she did would result in any action against her. The worst would be that she used poor judgement. Yet, the idea that the investigation would say she used poor judgement would be damning at this point. Since she is virtually new to national politics and has not established a real record, people would need to reassess. That is one thing the campaign would not want to have happen. It’s much better to keep it as a divisive issue allowing the individual to come to their own conclusions. The Left will cry foul and the right will look back and say SEE we told you they are being unfair.
By her not cooperating, the campaign has accomplished the very best scenario.
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Sarah Palin said she is ready for Sean Hannity. In fact, she spent all day today writing out the questions he's going to ask her.-Jay Leno
If you saw the big interview with Gibson, Sarah Palin quoted Abraham Lincoln. Lincoln said, "Let us not pray that God is on our side in a war or any other time, but let us pray that we are on God's side." Here's the amazing part. You know who Abraham Lincoln said that to? John McCain.
In the Gibson interview, a lot of people thought Charlie Gibson was unfair to her. They thought he was talking down to her. That was one of the comments. Like when he asked her about the so-called Bush doctrine. Most people aren't familiar with the Bush doctrine. I mean, we are, but we know it by another name: "Murphy's Law."
Here's something I mentioned last week. For some reason the Secret Service revealed this. Sarah Palin's Secret Service code name is "danali." Turns out danali is an old Eskimo word that means Dan Quayle.
If you watched TV last night, you know that Charlie Gibson did something John McCain has never done: interviewed Sarah Palin.
Leno is pretty funny...
They also revealed that Sarah's husband Todd, who works in the oil field...His Secret Service code name is "driller." I guess they figured Bill Clinton wasn't using it anymore.
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As recorded by a reporter allowed to observe the 35-minute fundraiser appearance, this was the first time Gov. Palin herself relayed the story of how a fouled-up teleprompter forced her to ad-lib big swaths of her acclaimed acceptance speech at the Republican Convention Sept. 3.
But that story has been largely debunked. Reporters who saw the equipment that night say -- and the party has not denied -- that any teleprompter issue was minor at most. In the days after the event it was touted -- on a hush-hush, off the record basis -- by top Republicans as a way to show how swift-thinking is their newest star, despite her avoidance of any and all unscripted moments on the trail.
Gov. Palin's telling was a Canton crowd-pleaser: "There Ohio was right out in front, right in front of me. The teleprompter got messed up, I couldn't follow it, and I just decided I'd just talk to the people in front of me," she said. "It was Ohio."
Like the Alaska jet put on eBay and her pit-bull opposition to pork like the Bridge to Nowhere, the T.T. of the T.T. is great theater, but not quite, not entirely, true.
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Palin supports $600 million 'other' bridge project By GARANCE BURKE, Associated Press Writer Tue Sep 16, 6:58 AM ET
ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Gov. Sarah Palin may eventually have said "no thanks" to a federally funded Bridge to Nowhere.
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But a bridge to her hometown of Wasilla, that's a different story.
A $600 million bridge and highway project to link Alaska's largest city to Palin's town of 7,000 residents is moving full speed ahead, despite concerns the bridge could worsen some commuting and threaten a population of beluga whales.
Local officials already have spent $42 million on plans to route traffic across the Knik Arm inlet, a narrow finger of water extending roughly 25 miles northeast of Anchorage toward Wasilla. The proposal exists thanks to an earmark request by Republican Rep. Don Young, whose son-in-law has a small stake in property near the bridge's proposed western span.
A Democratic council member in Anchorage will try Tuesday to spike the city's sponsorship of the project, which Palin supports with some reservations.
"This is basically an incredibly expensive project that doesn't help commuters, doesn't help create jobs and may drive whales to extinction," said Justin Massey, an attorney advising environmentalists opposed to the proposal. "It is also a project that serves the area where the governor is from, which is near and dear to her heart."
The Knik Arm was one of two bridge proposals in Alaska awarded more than $450 million from lawmakers who requested money for special projects in 2005, when Young chaired the House Transportation Committee. Young, Alaska's 18-term congressman, has said Alaska still lacks basic roads, railroads and bridges that were developed long ago in older and less spacious states.
At the time, Palin's running mate for the Republican ticket, Arizona Sen. John McCain, derided both projects as wasteful. He called Young's highway bill a "monstrosity" that was "terrifying in its fiscal consequences."
"I want no part of this," McCain said in a July 2005 statement. "This legislation is not — I emphasize not — my way of legislating."
The governor initially championed the first so-called Bridge to Nowhere, which would have connected the southeastern Alaska town of Ketchikan to its airport on nearby Gravina Island. She later pulled the plug on the project after it became a national symbol of extravagant federal spending.
Palin's record on the Bridge to Nowhere has emerged as a central point of controversy in the campaign over her recent public claims that she had opposed it, aligning herself with McCain's anti-earmarks philosophy.
Palin still supports the second bridge, officially named Don Young's Way in honor of the congressman. She called for a review of the bridge's financing plans and raised concerns about its financial risks for the state. Still, the planning process is marching forward.
"Governor Palin's demand for accountability and transparency around this project is exactly what she has called for across the board to ensure taxpayers' dollars are being used wisely," spokeswoman Maria Comella said.
Dianne Keller, who succeeded Palin as mayor in Wasilla, has said the new $600 million crossing could lower traffic congestion in the fast-growing community. A Federal Highway Administration study shows the project would cut down some area commutes, but could add to others as more people move to the suburbs.
The average commuter trip to work for Wasilla residents is 34 minutes, compared to an average of 25 minutes for the rest of the United States, according to 2000 Census figures, the most recent available.
The bridge is popular with property developers — including a group comprised of Young's son-in-law, the former legislative director for indicted Republican Sen. Ted Stevens and three others — who own land across from Anchorage on the inlet's western side.
The National Marine Fisheries Service is evaluating whether the isolated beluga whales that breed and feed in the waterway's strong tides should be listed as endangered under the federal Endangered Species Act. Palin has publicly urged the government not to list Cook Inlet beluga whales as endangered.
Anchorage Assembly members Patrick Flynn and Matt Claman, both Democrats, plan to introduce a proposal to kill the bridge on Tuesday. They argue the money would be better used to set up commuter van pools and fix Alaska's existing highways, some of which are so rutted that cars go skidding off the road.
"She clearly hasn't said 'no thanks' to this particular bridge," Claman said. "If money were not an issue and we had no limits, maybe we'd build a bridge. But this is not a pragmatic or efficient way to spend scarce resources."
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All I have to say is....."Just wait for the Presidential Debates"
Obama and his mate will make the Republicans look like Asses!!!
I'm not saying the Republicans are Asses...it's just that Obama was born to speak and debate, and Mcain, like Bush, simply are not natural born Speakers.
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Considering that the republican campaign is a sequence of smearing proven lies, delivered by candidates that offer only loud dishonest bragging and a void toward any rational solutions to our foreign policy fiasco and the economic deathtrap their republican free market philosophy inevitably deposits on the people, the people have started realizing that the republican candidates already are looking like asses, Ace, and deservedly so.
Currently, we have McCain, one of the Keating five, that brought us to near economic disaster with the savings and loan industry under the Ronald Reagan free market efforts, assuring us we must trust his vast experience and wholesome good judgment in matters of economics, particularly in how to work with lending institutions.
If you trust his judgment on financial measures, then you disagree with the U. S. Senate Ethics Committee, that found him guilty of "poor judgment" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five).
This current economic mess isn't the first brought to us via free market bull sh-t and, if McCain's vast experience in working with huge lending institutions has brought him anything but personal financial gain, it isn't "good Judgment". (Like always, they gave in to McCain and didn't have him charged, because of symphony he gets from having been a POW, not because he was less involved or less guilty than those convicted and sent to prison.)
Like a Dan Quayle, Sarah Palin flits about the Country, flitting about stages, before TV cameras, spewing memorized lines that claim that the republican candidate that picked her has judgment so vast and so honorable, that it becomes obvious that she isn't savvy enough to even realize they are lies. (And then there are the trouper-gates and tanning cages and OTHER bridges to nowhere and multi-millions in earmarks sweet Sarah refuses to admit or even denies.)
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quote:Originally posted by Lockman: The democrat's should dig up as much dirt as they can about Palin, even make stuff up if needed.
Then when McCain wins the presidency they can't be accused of not trying.
Of course the real good stuff on joe biden hasn't even been released by the clinton's yet.... oh wait aren't they campaigning for OBAMA.
You are about as knowledgeable on politics as a high school freshman is on football when he is cheering for his 0 and 7 high school team, with one finger pointed to the sky and screaming "We're number one".
With volumes of real and significant information out there, you spend time and space cheer leading the republican party with it's near dunce level presidential candidate that has shown a distinct lack of leadership and judgment over three decades of political effort (topped off, by naming as a VP candidate a chick whose most valuable and successful experience is how to keep a smile on her face during the swim suit competition and how to lie and act like you have anything to intelligent say when it is time for her response to the questions portion of the beauty contest.)
Yep, here you are suggesting the election be about scratching your simple minded and confused notion of what constitutes a democratic election process and your confused and childish notions about what makes a democracy.
Let's get back to reality. I say again:
"Considering that the republican campaign is a sequence of smearing proven lies, delivered by candidates that offer only loud dishonest bragging and a void toward any rational solutions to our foreign policy fiasco and the economic deathtrap their republican free market philosophy inevitably deposits on the people, the people have started realizing that the republican candidates already are looking like asses, Ace, and deservedly so.
Currently, we have McCain, one of the Keating five, that brought us to near economic disaster with the savings and loan industry under the Ronald Reagan free market efforts, assuring us we must trust his vast experience and wholesome good judgment in matters of economics, particularly in how to work with lending institutions.
If you trust his judgment on financial measures, then you disagree with the U. S. Senate Ethics Committee, that found him guilty of "poor judgment" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five).
This current economic mess isn't the first brought to us via free market bull sh-t and, if McCain's vast experience in working with huge lending institutions has brought him anything but personal financial gain, it isn't "good Judgment". (Like always, they gave in to McCain and didn't have him charged, because of symphony he gets from having been a POW, not because he was less involved or less guilty than those convicted and sent to prison.)
Like a Dan Quayle, Sarah Palin flits about the Country, flitting about stages, before TV cameras, spewing memorized lines that claim that the republican candidate that picked her has judgment so vast and so honorable, that it becomes obvious that she isn't savvy enough to even realize they are lies. (And then there are the trouper-gates and tanning cages and OTHER bridges to nowhere and multi-millions in earmarks sweet Sarah refuses to admit or even denies.)"
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Like I said dig up as much dirt as you want, I wouldn't want it said that bdgee didn't do his part at the failed attempt to elect OBAMA president.
I'll even send a letter to the DNC and tell them what a good soldier you've been.
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quote:Originally posted by Lockman: Like I said dig up as much dirt as you want, I wouldn't want it said that bdgee didn't do his part at the failed attempt to elect OBAMA president.
I'll even send a letter to the DNC and tell them what a good soldier you've been.
Considering that the republican campaign is a sequence of smearing proven lies, delivered by candidates that offer only loud dishonest bragging and a void toward any rational solutions to our foreign policy fiasco and the economic deathtrap their republican free market philosophy inevitably deposits on the people, the people have started realizing that the republican candidates already are looking like asses, Ace, and deservedly so.
Currently, we have McCain, one of the Keating five, that brought us to near economic disaster with the savings and loan industry under the Ronald Reagan free market efforts, assuring us we must trust his vast experience and wholesome good judgment in matters of economics, particularly in how to work with lending institutions.
If you trust his judgment on financial measures, then you disagree with the U. S. Senate Ethics Committee, that found him guilty of "poor judgment" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five).
This current economic mess isn't the first brought to us via free market bull sh-t and, if McCain's vast experience in working with huge lending institutions has brought him anything but personal financial gain, it isn't "good Judgment". (Like always, they gave in to McCain and didn't have him charged, because of symphony he gets from having been a POW, not because he was less involved or less guilty than those convicted and sent to prison.)
Like a Dan Quayle, Sarah Palin flits about the Country, flitting about stages, before TV cameras, spewing memorized lines that claim that the republican candidate that picked her has judgment so vast and so honorable, that it becomes obvious that she isn't savvy enough to even realize they are lies. (And then there are the trouper-gates and tanning cages and OTHER bridges to nowhere and multi-millions in earmarks sweet Sarah refuses to admit or even denies.)
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I honestly don't care if OBAMA gets elected or not. After what I've seen our government do with our financial situation the last couple of days it seems where headed towards a socialistic state a lot faster than I ever imagined.
Maybe Obama will surprise me and reverse some of this nonsense.
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quote:Originally posted by Lockman: Bdgee- Your such a broken record! lol
I honestly don't care if OBAMA gets elected or not. After what I've seen our government do with our financial situation the last couple of days it seems where headed towards a socialistic state a lot faster than I ever imagined.
Maybe Obama will surprise me and reverse some of this nonsense.
The hell you don't care.
You have constantly posted lies and trash about the democrats, while posting lies that would excuse the double dealing of republicans. Moreover, you are doing your best to post after anything negative about McClain or Palin so as to force the truth to not be seen.
If you don't care, then stop posting so that you cause the facts about McCain's involvement the Keating 5, his pitifull poor judgment in helping to bring the current crisis in the financial markets, and his lies on the campaign trail to not be seen.
Again: Considering that the republican campaign is a sequence of smearing proven lies, delivered by candidates that offer only loud dishonest bragging and a void toward any rational solutions to our foreign policy fiasco and the economic deathtrap their republican free market philosophy inevitably deposits on the people, the people have started realizing that the republican candidates already are looking like asses, Ace, and deservedly so.
Currently, we have McCain, one of the Keating five, that brought us to near economic disaster with the savings and loan industry under the Ronald Reagan free market efforts, assuring us we must trust his vast experience and wholesome good judgment in matters of economics, particularly in how to work with lending institutions.
If you trust his judgment on financial measures, then you disagree with the U. S. Senate Ethics Committee, that found him guilty of "poor judgment" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five).
This current economic mess isn't the first brought to us via free market bull sh-t and, if McCain's vast experience in working with huge lending institutions has brought him anything but personal financial gain, it isn't "good Judgment". (Like always, they gave in to McCain and didn't have him charged, because of symphony he gets from having been a POW, not because he was less involved or less guilty than those convicted and sent to prison.)
Like a Dan Quayle, Sarah Palin flits about the Country, flitting about stages, before TV cameras, spewing memorized lines that claim that the republican candidate that picked her has judgment so vast and so honorable, that it becomes obvious that she isn't savvy enough to even realize they are lies. (And then there are the trouper-gates and tanning cages and OTHER bridges to nowhere and multi-millions in earmarks sweet Sarah refuses to admit or even denies.)
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I honestly don't care if OBAMA gets elected or not. After what I've seen our government do with our financial situation the last couple of days it seems where headed towards a socialistic state a lot faster than I ever imagined -------------------------------------------------
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WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP THIS IS! I'm truly surprised that you of all people would post this stuff.
Once a Dumocrat always a Dumocrat!!!
Don'rt worry, Locknam, we are not in a contest to determine which of us is the most intelligent.
However, I do note that the fact that you can't escape from being of the the Party first before country fascism of republican dogma does demonstrate that you have less than the intellect of a junebug and less than the morals of a cowchip.
The idiocy of you and your kind have turned the activities of this Nation into a disgusting and dangerous stain on humanity.
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WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP THIS IS! I'm truly surprised that you of all people would post this stuff.
Once a Dumocrat always a Dumocrat!!!
Don'rt worry, Locknam, we are not in a contest to determine which of us is the most intelligent.
However, I do note that the fact that you can't escape from being of the the Party first before country fascism of republican dogma does demonstrate that you have less than the intellect of a junebug and less than the morals of a cowchip.
The idiocy of you and your kind have turned the activities of this Nation into a disgusting and dangerous stain on humanity.
Oh you dumocrat's are so smart.
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Barbra Streisand Headlines Fundraiser for Obama
Tuesday, September 16, 2008 2:20 PM
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DENVER -- How does Barack Obama lure wealthy donors to a big-money fundraiser in Hollywood? Bring in Barbra Streisand as the headline performer. The Oscar-winning singer and actress was to perform Tuesday night on Obama's behalf in Beverly Hills.
It was to be a two-step evening with a reception and dinner costing $28,500 a person followed by a later event featuring Streisand at $2,500 a ticket.
Obama was flying to Los Angeles after an appearance Tuesday morning in a Denver suburb.
The wealthy fundraiser comes on a day when the crisis in the U.S. economy remained an urgent issue for many Americans. Monday's sharp sell-off left the Dow Jones industrials and the Standard & Poor's 500 index down by more 4 percent, eroding the value of individual retirement and investment accounts, for example.
Streisand originally backed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton but switched to Obama when he emerged as the Democratic presidential nominee.
Streisand has been outspoken in criticizing John McCain's selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate on the Republican presidential ticket.
"This calculated, cynical ploy to pull away a small percentage of Hillary's women voters from Barack Obama will not work," Streisand wrote on her Web page. "We are not that stupid!"
"I believe John McCain chose Gov. Palin because he truly believes that women who supported Hillary — an experienced, brilliant, lifelong public servant — would vote for him because his vice president has two X chromosomes," Streisand said. "McCain's selection of Gov. Palin is a transparent and irresponsible decision all in the name of trying to win this election."
Obama is financing his presidential race with private contributions after abandoning a pledge to take public financing capped at $84 million. His campaign announced Sunday it had collected $66 million in August, a fundraising record for any presidential candidate in a monthlong period.
By comparison, McCain raised $47 million in August, a personal best for his campaign as well. After claiming the GOP nomination, McCain accepted the $84 million in taxpayer funds allotted the public financing system for the race.
WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP THIS IS! I'm truly surprised that you of all people would post this stuff.
Once a Dumocrat always a Dumocrat!!!
Don'rt worry, Locknam, we are not in a contest to determine which of us is the most intelligent.
However, I do note that the fact that you can't escape from being of the the Party first before country fascism of republican dogma does demonstrate that you have less than the intellect of a junebug and less than the morals of a cowchip.
The idiocy of you and your kind have turned the activities of this Nation into a disgusting and dangerous stain on humanity.
Oh you dumocrat's are so smart.
Yep. It's a result of not banning books and reading and judging material and information rather than cowtoeing to the Republican Party Masters and parroting whatever we are told to.
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quote:Originally posted by Lockman: But you do parrot whatever your told by the ultra liberal media.
Forever a Dumocrat!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, I don't often read what you call "the ultra liberal media", but unlike you, I do sometimes (I don't take it to heart, though, but it is often funny stuff), just like I sometime listen to Fat Rush, the Doper and read something written by rat faced Ann Coulter (nothing funny in those two, just sickness and bile).
However, I have been told several times by some that read a lot of that "liberal" drivel that they quite often parrot what I have said.
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