quote:Originally posted by Lockman: The real question does graduating from college mean you have the instincts to lead?
I've met people considered to be scholars or aleast consider themselves to be scholars, that I wouldn't follow across the street. Working as a college professor is an example of someone being an expert on what they've been taught but never appling it to the real world.
Again you have displayed your ignorance of the academic world.
Exactly where did you come by that line and what makes you qualified to make such a judgment? Just how many professors have you actually known and of them, how much of their work did you ever know or understand?
(You are getting this trash talk from either Spiro Agnew or Rush Limbaugh, aren't you? (It shows, ya know?) Haven't you noticed that they are both generations out of date?)
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I certainly want my governing officials to have high intelligence and reasoning power. also I would require good communication skills,proper ettiquette,extensive knowledge of the constitution and the intracacies of the governing bodies, extremely knowledgable in foreign policy(executive office applicants) and how to handle foreign leaders without pisssing em off. someone who is a thinking person, who is deliberate and always looking for an alternate solution to war. diplomacy comes to mind....ya know, all those things that are completely opposite of georgieboy...
quote:Originally posted by Lockman: The real question does graduating from college mean you have the instincts to lead?
I've met people considered to be scholars or aleast consider themselves to be scholars, that I wouldn't follow across the street. Working as a college professor is an example of someone being an expert on what they've been taught but never appling it to the real world.
Again you have displayed your ignorance of the academic world.
Exactly where did you come by that line and what makes you qualified to make such a judgment? Just how many professors have you actually known and of them, how much of their work did you ever know or understand?
(You are getting this trash talk from either Spiro Agnew or Rush Limbaugh, aren't you? (It shows, ya know?) Haven't you noticed that they are both generations out of date?)
Oh wait your a "college professor" aren't you. A real expert at what you were taught and not much else.
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LOL... that's the same thing i heard about Dubya...
and look where we are now...
If it was a Dem with those numbers you know that Lockman and others then would "care"...
What difference does it make what Obama's GPA was? Is he going to impress the president of Russia with how smart he was in college? Obama actually sounded very informed about the 700 billion bailout. It's just his wealth distribution plans that bother me. Of course what is this bailout but wealth distribution.
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I do not accept any part of your characterization of what that implies, particularly your ignorant claim that I or any other "professor" is "A real expert at what you were taught and not much else."
I happen to be expert in a number of areas, some academic and some not, some I learned as a student, some not, most no one taught me but me (and I shouldn't be surprised to learn that among them is whatever area of knowledge you believe you yourself most qualified in).
Your narrow minded lack of understanding that allows you to imagine you being even a fraction as knowledgeable on ANYTHING as is the average "professor" is childish and amounts to the arrogance of being simple minded and mentally stilted enough to not know what is out there to know.
(Again, You are getting this trash talk from either Spiro Agnew or Rush Limbaugh, aren't you? (It shows, ya know?) Haven't you noticed that they are both generations out of date?) (Borrowing from Billy Martin, one's convicted, one's indited.)
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: It's just his wealth distribution plans that bother me. Of course what is this bailout but wealth distribution.
so? the next rational question is do you want somebody who lies about it? or do you want somebody who is honest..
lemme remind you that Bush said he wasn't for nation building (neither am i) and then he took on a nation to build by his own choice...
and? he's handed out cash to "stimulate" the economy...
Bush isn't running for president. I'm not a big Bush fan, especially on his immigration policy or lack of one. The mistake in Iraq was that we stayed, I agree nation building is not something we should be involved with. The problem where faced with now is how do we get out of Afganistan? The economic mess were in has to be shared by Bush but our congress is suppose to be in charge of monitary policy where were they. We need term limits on congress, we also shouldn't have life time appointments to our supreme court.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: You still don't get it.
I accept and plead guilty to being one.
I do not accept any part of your characterization of what that implies, particularly your ignorant claim that I or any other "professor" is "A real expert at what you were taught and not much else."
I happen to be expert in a number of areas, some academic and some not, some I learned as a student, some not, most no one taught me but me (and I shouldn't be surprised to learn that among them is whatever area of knowledge you believe you yourself most qualified in).
Your narrow minded lack of understanding that allows you to imagine you being even a fraction as knowledgeable on ANYTHING as is the average "professor" is childish and amounts to the arrogance of being simple minded and mentally stilted enough to not know what is out there to know.
(Again, You are getting this trash talk from either Spiro Agnew or Rush Limbaugh, aren't you? (It shows, ya know?) Haven't you noticed that they are both generations out of date?) (Borrowing from Billy Martin, one's convicted, one's indited.)
Let's face it the average college professor is teaching college courses because they can't make it in the real world. Now there are the exceptions and if your one I applaud you.
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Let's face it the average college professor is teaching college courses because they can't make it in the real world. Now there are the exceptions and if your one I applaud you.
you don't beleive that do you?
most people teaching in classes work for professors...
most professors work about 60 hrs per week...
and a cat 1 professor makes over 150 grand salry...
that's not including granting moneys they collect for their projects.. and most grants are from private instituions INVESTING in new knowledge...
the UC system makes more money off their patents than they do anything else...
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: Let's face it the average college professor is teaching college courses because they can't make it in the real world. Now there are the exceptions and if your one I applaud you.
you don't beleive that do you?
most people teaching in classes work for professors...
most professors work about 60 hrs per week...
and a cat 1 professor makes over 150 grand salry...
that's not including granting moneys they collect for their projects.. and most grants are from private instituions INVESTING in new knowledge...
the UC system makes more money off their patents than they do anything else...
Na not really, I was just trying to get The begee all spazed out. lol
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: Let's face it the average college professor is teaching college courses because they can't make it in the real world. Now there are thepisant exceptions and if your one I applaud you.
you don't beleive that do you?
most people teaching in classes work for professors...
most professors work about 60 hrs per week...
and a cat 1 professor makes over 150 grand salry...
that's not including granting moneys they collect for their projects.. and most grants are from private instituions INVESTING in new knowledge...
the UC system makes more money off their patents than they do anything else...
Na not really, I was just trying to get The begee all spazed out. lol
I'll be a long cold day in hell before I get upset by a pip-squeak intellect that hardy could mount a challenge in a debate with a pissant.
Like all good little boys and girls, I set goals when I first started out on life's journey. I reached and exceeded all mine and several I never thought to pursue. Leaving out the chance that you set out to be a Party line republican parrot and, thereby, would, by constant example, be a winner, did you come close to any?
quote:Originally posted by glassman: Let's face it the average college professor is teaching college courses because they can't make it in the real world. Now there are thepisant exceptions and if your one I applaud you.
you don't beleive that do you?
most people teaching in classes work for professors...
most professors work about 60 hrs per week...
and a cat 1 professor makes over 150 grand salry...
that's not including granting moneys they collect for their projects.. and most grants are from private instituions INVESTING in new knowledge...
the UC system makes more money off their patents than they do anything else...
Na not really, I was just trying to get The begee all spazed out. lol
I'll be a long cold day in hell before I get upset by a pip-squeak intellect that hardy could mount a challenge in a debate with a pissant.
Like all good little boys and girls, I set goals when I first started out on life's journey. I reached and exceeded all mine and several I never thought to pursue. Leaving out the chance that you set out to be a Party line republican parrot and, thereby, would, by constant example, be a winner, did you come close to any?
Didn't think so, really......
Are you admitting to being a pissant?
You've reached all your goals? You are amazing! At least for a Dumocrat.
I've lived a very satisfing life and I'm not all constipated like you.
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Poor Lockjaw. He has no idea what is being said or how to react, because it doesn't come from Fat Rush or dubya or the RNC, with specific directions how to respond.
What I said is that, if being a really dense and really sick Party line parrot was the only goal you ever had in life, you can consider yourself successful. And, if you had any goal in life that included being credible, you failed completely.
I don't know who first said such a thing, so I can't award deserving credit, but I will borrow the line: What you exhibit is diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the brain.
Sadly, with educational opportunities passed by long ago, I fear you have reached a state of equilibrium that will be always with you.
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begee your just a sad little man sitting in a closet trying to come up with new ways to force your socialistic point of view on anyone that will listen.
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quote:Originally posted by Lockman: I should have looked up the rhodes scholarship, my bad. I still don't see the significance of a persons GPA , twenty years ago.
Palin may have gone to several colleges before getting her degree. Determination and a need to be a success are a good trait to have.
Yah, you put your foot in your mouth about the Rhodes scholarship lol As well as why a GPA could signify a better executive... look what a dumb witted person like Bush got us in the last 8 years...
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September 2008 Palin linked electoral success to prayer of Kenyan witchhunter The pastor whose prayer Sarah Palin says helped her to become governor of Alaska founded his ministry with a witchhunt against a Kenyan woman who he accused of causing car accidents through demonic spells.
At a speech at the Wasilla Assembly of God on June 8 this year, Mrs Palin described how Thomas Muthee had laid his hands on her when he visited the church as a guest preacher in late 2005, prior to her successful gubernatorial bid.
In video footage of the speech, she is seen saying: “As I was mayor and Pastor Muthee was here and he was praying over me, and you know how he speaks and he’s so bold. And he was praying “Lord make a way, Lord make a way.”
“And I’m thinking, this guy’s really bold, he doesn’t even know what I’m going to do, he doesn’t know what my plans are. And he’s praying not “oh Lord if it be your will may she become governor,” no, he just prayed for it. He said “Lord make a way and let her do this next step. And that’s exactly what happened.”
She then adds: “So, again, very very powerful, coming from this church,” before the presiding pastor comments on the “prophetic power” of the event.
An African evangelist, Pastor Muthee has given guest sermons at the Wasilla Assembly of God on at least 10 occasions in his role as the founder of the Word of Faith Church, also known as the Prayer Cave.
Pastor Muthee founded the Prayer Cave in 1989 in Kiambu, Kenya after “God spoke” to him and his late wife Margaret and called him to the country, according to the church’s website.
The pastor speaks of his offensive against a demonic presence in the town in a trailer for the evangelical video “Transformations”, made by Sentinel Group, a Christian research and information agency.
“We prayed, we fasted, the Lord showed us a spirit of witchcraft resting over the place,” Pastor Muthee says.
After the spirit was broken, the crime rate dropped to almost zero and there was “explosive church growth” while almost every bar in the town closed down, the video says.
The full Transformations video featuring Pastor Muthee’s story has recently been removed from YouTube but the rest of the story is detailed in a 1999 article in the Christian Science Monitor, as well as on numerous evangelical websites.
According to the Christian Science Monitor, six months of fervent prayer and research identified the source of the witchcraft as a local woman called Mama Jane, who ran a “divination” centre called the Emmanuel Clinic.
Her alleged involvement in fortune-telling and the fact that she lived near the site of a number of fatal car accidents led Pastor Muthee to publicly declare her a witch responsible for the town’s ills, and order her to offer her up her soul for salvation or leave Kiambu.
Says the Monitor, “Muthee held a crusade that “brought about 200 people to Christ”.” They set up round-the-clock prayer intercession in the basement of a grocery store and eventually, says the pastor “the demonic influence – the ‘principality’ over Kiambu –was broken”, and Mama Jane fled the town.
According to accounts of the witchhunt circulated on evangelical websites such as Prayer Links Ministries, after Pastor Muthee declared Mama Jane a witch, the townspeople became suspicious and began to turn on her, demanding that she be stoned. Public outrage eventually led the police to raid her home, where they fired gunshots, killing a pet python which they believed to be a demon.
After Mama Jane was questioned by police – and released – she decided it was time to leave town, the account says.
Pastor Muthee has frequently referred to this witchhunt in his sermons as an example of the power of “spiritual warfare”. In October 2005, he delivered ten sermons at the Wasilla Assembly of God, the audio of which was available on the church’s website until it was removed around the time Mrs Palin’s candidacy was announced. The **** Irregular Times has listings and screen grabs of the sermons.
It was during that these sermons that Mrs Palin, who was then preparing for her gubernatorial run, was anointed by Pastor Muthee. His intercession, she says, was “awesome”.
Her June 8 speech was to mark the graduation of students from the Wasilla Assembly of God’s Masters’ Commission, which, as Pastor Ed Kalins explains, believes Alaska will be the refuge for American evangelicals upon the coming “End of Days”. After her speech, Mrs Palin was presented with an honorary Masters’ Commission diploma.
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quote:Originally posted by Lockman: I should have looked up the rhodes scholarship, my bad. I still don't see the significance of a persons GPA , twenty years ago.
Palin may have gone to several colleges before getting her degree. Determination and a need to be a success are a good trait to have.
Yah, you put your foot in your mouth about the Rhodes scholarship lol As well as why a GPA could signify a better executive... look what a dumb witted person like Bush got us in the last 8 years...
So your criteria for President is based on what their GPA was in college? I guess learning how to take advantage of a young woman intern was the result of a rhodes scholar education. I wonder if the cigar idea was hatched in that great hall of education.
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quote:Originally posted by Lockman: I should have looked up the rhodes scholarship, my bad. I still don't see the significance of a persons GPA , twenty years ago.
Palin may have gone to several colleges before getting her degree. Determination and a need to be a success are a good trait to have.
Yah, you put your foot in your mouth about the Rhodes scholarship lol As well as why a GPA could signify a better executive... look what a dumb witted person like Bush got us in the last 8 years...
So your criteria for President is based on what their GPA was in college? I guess learning how to take advantage of a young woman intern was the result of a rhodes scholar education. I wonder if the cigar idea was hatched in that great hall of education.
Taken advantage? No, Monica is a adult and knew what she was doing when she was on her knees and when she stored a stained dress. What a President does in his off time doesn't affect what he does when he is deciding policies and such politically. I don't know every Presidents academic achievements nor IQ but I would betcha that Bush is probably in the top 3 of the worst academic achievements and IQ... Now ask yourself whose policy decisions have made more damage to this country... Bush's or anyone else's? The only other Prez I would compare to Bush is probably Herbert Hoover and his decisions... So notwithstanding I would rather have a President in Office with high academic achievements rather then a C student who is/was controlled by 2 evil men (Cheney and Rove) and is easily manipulated... say what you want about Clinton or most other Presidents but we weren't in this mess since really the Great Depression...
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Your seriously going to blame the whole Clinton scandal on Monica! Your kidding right? Either She's the craftiest 19 yr. old I've ever heard of or he's the dumbest jerk in the world.
And I believe he was getting head in a hallway next to the oval office. I wouldn't say that was his off time.
And the worst part about the whole situation was he left himself exposed to blackmail. The man left himself vunerable to his enemies as we saw during his impeachment.
He also proved that he was willing to compromise the office of the President of the United States. If you still think he was the greatest president ever I think I'd do some more research.
I'll go on record as saying that Bush has been a disaster but I don't think it was his C average in college that caused it. Actually I would love to have known how Big Al would have reacted to 911.
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quote:Originally posted by Lockman: Your seriously going to blame the whole Clinton scandal on Monica! Your kidding right? Either She's the craftiest 19 yr. old I've ever heard of or he's the dumbest jerk in the world.
Ahhh so Monica is such a little innocent naive girl who didn't know what being on her knees and having a d*ck shoved in her mouth meant? LoL And had no clue why she kept a stained dress under lock and key long time after the affair... yes your right Monica is naive and none of what happened was because of her... it was all Clinton...
quote:And I believe he was getting head in a hallway next to the oval office. I wouldn't say that was his off time.
He did live there no, during his 8 years there? You can't have offtime in your residence?
quote:And the worst part about the whole situation was he left himself exposed to blackmail. The man left himself vunerable to his enemies as we saw during his impeachment.
ah so your saying Monica wasn't so innocent and some of the blame of the scandal lies on her lap?
quote:He also proved that he was willing to compromise the office of the President of the United States. If you still think he was the greatest president ever I think I'd do some more research.
It's been said that most if not pretty much all Presidents have had affairs in the 20th Century. Whether that was while in office or not is debatable. So perhaps you should go do some research on the topic.
quote:I'll go on record as saying that Bush has been a disaster but I don't think it was his C average in college that caused it. Actually I would love to have known how Big Al would have reacted to 911.
I would venture to say that with Big Al we would not be in Iraq and we would be $12 Billion per month richer. Anything else is debatable.
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Palin apparently embarrassed herself--or the party--with Couric's interview earlier this evening. Who's her handlers? They're not doing a very good job...
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