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Well no one deserves hate mail Glassman. Feel free to keep your anonymity, and if that is the reason for your republican cover story I apologize for taking you to task and will not question that in the future.
It does not appear that way on these threads Glass. Course you label me all the time so my returning the favor should be expected.
"Tom Delay, Jack Abramoff, Carl Rove and a few others is why they lost control.. you take what i been telling you as attacks when i am trying to clue you in as to how the game is being played...that's not speckeelashun dere in the New American Century budd, that's what they wrote..."
You give them way too much credit. But let's get back to what I said earlier. Exactly how was I disagreeing with you about that group? Go back and look at what I said, neighbor. I said "agreed" the only area of contention is they did not cause 9/11 to happen.
"Pat Robertson and Jerry Falweel are the ones creating your religiophobic" oppositition...."
boy we agree on that one. Them and the far left. Go back and give me some comment on Sunnyside's statement
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Scattered \Scat"tered\, a. (Bot.) Irregular in position; having no regular order; as, scattered leaves.
Or: hiding under the fridge until the light goes off again. LOL
quote:Originally posted by john wayne: Nobody here has scattered yet Gordon. Same thing you said on the Clinton Vietnam thread I wonder, what is your definition of scattered?
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You give them way too much credit. But let's get back to what I said earlier. Exactly how was I disagreeing with you about that group? Go back and look at what I said, neighbor. I said "agreed" the only area of contention is they did not cause 9/11 to happen.
i give them way too much credit???
you are hopeless...
i KNOW how the game works... i told you i grew up in a political family....
i am following my coscience in my posts...
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Glassman- You think I'm Iranian right? Now how could I be in the KKK if I were Iranian? So which is it you are accusing me of or do you actually believe I am an Iranian Clansmen? Man you look for conspiracy in everything but that would be one heck of a stretch.
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There is absolutely no proof to the contrary. Why did Bush attempt to block investigation?
quote:Originally posted by Griffon: GB, there is absolutely no proof of that. You are being manipulated by circumstances that do not fit the facts we know.
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quote:Originally posted by Griffon: GB, there is absolutely no proof of that. You are being manipulated by circumstances that do not fit the facts we know.
and? if nobody asks the hard questions OUT LOUD? nothing gets fixed if something is wrong...
you and JW seem to be "out to" silence other people not discuss...
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"That said, this has been a wonderful experiment in how conflict begins and I thank you for that."
Grif, this has been my experience of you since the beginning of all your threads: You are extremely condescending and are rigorously pushing your religio-political agenda. Not lively discussion or debate.
While you preach your moderatism, peace-making, peace building, love for humanity, and all your other self proclaimed wonderful attributes, your intolerance is expressed in your condescension. But you appear too embroiled in your own position that you can't see the forest for the trees. In my professional jargon "passive-aggressive" behavior.
I especially appreciated your statement, to the effect that, you needed to clean up the academic jargon before posting. Well, gee, I'm glad you cleared that up for us.
And a bit of anti-semitism in there: You said you've helped the Arab Israelis, does that exclude the Jewish Israelis? Don't they deserve your altruism too? I thought your goodness was humanitarian, for all human kind.
I'm not feeling you at all.
And, JW, I'm speaking to your brother, in case you needed to rise to his defense.
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"you guys really do need to read the New American Century stuff...
it's chillingly "prophetic"..."
already read it. No evidence, no genuine evidence whatsoever. Now guys, I know the game too, and I can tell you that you accept that stuff because you have a political position that fits that type of story. Since I have no such blinder, I am free to not look for CTs in every misfortune that befalls the country.
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"Does anyone here feel that 9/11 has been fully examined and that we know the whole story?"
No we do not
"In my professional jargon "passive-aggressive" behavior."
You are a great deal mistaken.
"And a bit of anti-semitism in there: You said you've helped the Arab Israelis, does that exclude the Jewish Israelis?
Wow, since I teach with Jewish professors and celebrate Passover with Jewish friends, I think your comment is graping at straws. But if you want the plain facts, I help Arab Isrelis because their schools are funded at 2/3 funding given to Jewish schools which are closed to Arabs. Would you like the whole report to examine my belief structure. I see myself as Judeo-Christian-Muslim, there is no anti-Semitism in me. Hence the post-script I was ripped for last night.
"Don't they deserve your altruism too? I thought your goodness was humanitarian, for all human kind"
I never called myself good, Sunny. I am an humanitarian who givens to charitable cuses to help Christian, Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, Animist, Taoism and Atheist across ethnic divides.
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Glassman- I think I see one problem here. I pretty much don't believe in very many consiracies, Republican or Democrat, or really non political conspiirices. I pretty much need a confession before I believe in a conspiracy. I believe Oswald acted alone, at least he was the only shooter there. I believe FDR did not know about Pearl harbor. I do not believe all the wacky stuff about Clinton dealing drugs etc or George Bush Senior killing Kennedy. I believe you are somewhat into conspiricies. But I don't see any reason we can't overcome that. I love talking about them.
But I don't think you have a leg to stand on about us trying to silence people. As neatly as that would fit into your conspiracy mindset, I don't think you'll find much proof to back up that assertion. Now I may say I don't think a certain conversation belongs on a thread, such as religion on a grilling thread, or Bush's service on a Clinton thread, but that is as far as I will go to silence anyone.
Glassman- my brother and I are two bald headed guys living in Iowa, He lives in Morning Sun, farming country, and I live in Johnston, suburb of Des Moines. We love to fish together, although rarely do we catch much to brag about. We both love to grill. I have a recreation degree, I know it shows in some of my posts, so for me to have some grand agenda is beyond my grasp. I am here to defend what I believe in, others feel free to do the same.
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Which one? There are so many different theories. Mine is that the Government let it happen. Why is that so hard to believe, given the fact that Bush was a near lame-duck President on September 10? Would we be in Iraq today without it?
The official story has many holes as well.
quote:Originally posted by Sunnyside: I don't believe it has been fully examined or that we know the whole story. But, that conspiracy theory has its own holes in it.
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quote:Originally posted by Gordon Bennett: Indeed. Glassman, are you fully satisfied that 9/11 was nothing more than an amazingly well-timed coincidence?
quote:Originally posted by glassman: you guys really do need to read the New American Century stuff...
it's chillingly "prophetic"...
fully? no way....
i keep looking for the links to this day...
however? i don't think our people knew this exact thing was coming...
something? YES, and i hold BUSH repsonsible for being on watch, which the larger part of my party was too WUSSY to do.. there JW...put that in your pipe and smoke it...wussy, that's what i call it
the party should have put soemoene else out there to run in 04... period...
and i said so right here at allstocks... it's on record
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I got an idea, let's see if we can get this thread from 3 to 10 pages before the weekend's out. Still waiting on Glass' response to my follow-up on peace.
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Wussy notwithstanding, (LOL) it's not so far-fetched to believe, as I do, that they actually let it happen. Whether they knew it would be this exact thing, or just any attack in general, is almost irrelevant.
They did nothing to prevent an attack because they wanted an attack.
quote:Originally posted by glassman: fully? no way....
i keep looking for the links to this day...
however? i don't think our people knew this exact thing was coming...
something? YES, and i hold BUSH repsonsible for being on watch, which the larger part of my party was too WUSSY to do.. there JW...put that in your pipe and smoke it...wussy, that's what i call it
the party should have put soemoene else out there to run in 04... period...
and i said so right here at allstocks... it's on record
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quote:Originally posted by Gordon Bennett: Which one? There are so many different theories. Mine is that the Government let it happen. Why is that so hard to believe, given the fact that Bush was a near lame-duck President on September 10? Would we be in Iraq today without it?
The official story has many holes as well.
quote:Originally posted by Sunnyside: I don't believe it has been fully examined or that we know the whole story. But, that conspiracy theory has its own holes in it.
I don't believe the story we have been fed that 9/11 was a carefully orchestrated attack by Ben Ladin and his terrorists. Way too many questions. But, the conspiracy holes I refer to are some of the ones depicted the Loose Change video.
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