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brian2361 Member |
Did anyone else see the .006. I almost s?@t my pants. LOL IP: Logged |
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PAUL Member |
IMO Bashing does not bother me too much. I have not been at this very long but, the way I figure things is that bashing will only have a short term effect. Perhaps I am missing something. I am just looking for this company to continue to put out honest PR's about where the company is with regard to the business. In time I expect a PPS increase as a result of facts being given to the public. I agree w/ Debi, this is going to be fun to watch. PAUL ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Bo14172 Member |
I didn't see it, but thought I smelled something. ![]() Bo IP: Logged |
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Leardron Member |
quote: Okay, thanks for the clairification. I never totally understood it. IP: Logged |
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rsnws Member |
Yea, I saw it. $28,000.00 looked good for a min there. Too bad it was a mistake. Maybe someday soon it will be real. quote: IP: Logged |
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noahltl New Member |
quote: I agree it's slanted. Just didn't see anything that woould cause an informed investor to hover over the sell button. So many reporters are 'pimps' for the big money people like MM's, DeBeers, etc. I'm not saying this guy is one, but we have to be as careful about what we read in the media as we are about the "bashers" here. IP: Logged |
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TradingWizard Member |
Debi I liked your post on the other thread about bashers, may be you should repost it here. I was going to ask you there, but all I would do is bump the thread up again. Thanks. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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CB Member |
http://www.stockwatch.com/swnet/newsit/newsit_newsit.aspx?bid=B-357750-U:CMKX&symbol=CMKX&ne.. IP: Logged |
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WWJD-thru-me Member |
Thanks TW here it is: All longs on this stock. Please don't even reply to bashers on this thread. Bashers are paid on the piece rate. They can earn up to $6.00 an hour plus tips if you use their name or respond to their posts. The people who are short in this stock are fairly desperate. If they drop the price-we will buy the shares they need. So they need to get people to sell at this price especially if they bought higher. This is really tough. They need a lot more shares than any of us have been willing to sell. I am holding my 22 Million + shares like a pit bull on a piece of raw meat. They will need to raise the price to about .05 and I will think about it. That would be over $1,000,000.00 profit and might get my attention. We'll see. It may be worth much more than that. Time will tell and I can wait. IMO-DD-Debi IP: Logged |
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noahltl New Member |
quote: Osubucks: You started your own CMKX thread. Why are you here???? Too hot on that one???? IP: Logged |
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WWJD-thru-me Member |
I just wanted to post the comments to the article on the stockwatch page. This is an exact copy of what is there with no deletions. They didn't get one comment agreeing with the writer. -Debi Reader Comments - Comments are open and unmoderated, although abusive remarks may be deleted. Opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect the views of Stockwatch. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Will, Have a great day!! : )
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There are many discrepancies with this article and the main one is the lack of mentioning of the law firm.. Don't you find it interesting that there are so many news releases and quite a few what is seemed as professional writtings only to have been completely fabricated.It seems to me that certain Market Makers and not bashers are behind this endeavor..This is another sign of things getting quite worrisome for the market makers. Folks, I view this as very exciting.. Have a good day Varok
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"CMKM's Smeaton play began in March..." what play??? "Those plans hit a big snag..." what plans??? "a fraction even smaller than CMKM's recent share price..." journalistic freedom to be sarcastic??? "Based on earlier work on the Smeaton play, there should have been few surprises in any of the recent results form Smeaton..." source??? "As a result, what CMKM now calls its new Carolyn pipe is actually the old Smeaton kimberlite..." conjecture/fact, based on what???? "Entertaining press releases are not the only unusual quirk with CMKM..."more journalistic freedom to be sarcastic??? The fact that the De Beers Canada Corp. and Kensington Resources Ltd. group find the area to be profitable and reside as abutters to the CMKX group's property has been washed over by Will. I would think that with a little more journalistic knowledge that Will, would have found that the same pipe runs through both properties. Is Will a broker, diamond dealer, miner, SEC representative or in any way professional enough to make the assumptions made above? I think not. Will has gathered a lot of information and has then decided to use his imagination and hearsay to write a "Professional" (sic) article about a company without actually doing basic journalistic due diligence. Unbelievable all I can say. The fact that StockWatch published this article without any disclaimers at all leads me to believe that they also concur with Will's wildly imaginative assumptions. I therefore, have come to my own conclusion that StockWatch is not putting out reliable information and I must discontinue using StockWatch as information tool. Also, I feel compelled to voice my opinion to all of my stock "Buddies". Sorry and goodbye...
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osubucks30 Member |
Not a BASHER! Started question QBID on April 21!! It was at .018 has fallen since! Now at .012 thats a 33% decrease. I do not just bash a stock I just think this has more of a chance seeing .0001 before seeing .001!! DO NOT OWN AND WILL NOT BUY! IP: Logged |
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pharmdman Member |
quote: reminds me of another wayward wooly wanderer that's been sheared! IP: Logged |
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pharmdman Member |
quote: Ok, so you've made your choice, the next step is for you to move on... otherwise, you must not actually believe that... You'd only stay if you thought you were going to miss something. Adios! IP: Logged |
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CB Member |
stockwatch was pissed @ the fact there PR was claimed to be a FAKE "Those details presented a far gloomier outlook for the pipe than had CMKM's brief proclamation that the lab results had confirmed Carolyn was diamondiferous, leaving a number of the company's more exuberant faithful to speculate loudly that the Canadian news had been faked." Thats why this is article was onesided...IMO IP: Logged |
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TradingWizard Member |
Some of you invited osubucks30 here, and now we all will be paying price for seeing junk again. Thanks. :-0 Just do not respond to bashing or name calling posts and we all be happy again. :-) ------------------ 'Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much.' - Helen Keller [This message has been edited by TradingWizard (edited June 22, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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osubucks30 Member |
I will only do this today!! I will follow up in a week or two. So unlike Wallace I will not continue to post. I will continue to read this post however! IP: Logged |
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VNGNTN1 Member |
Insider trading is an extremely important signal on larger stocks. Is it possible that one reason UC delisted was to make the trades without reporting? VAN IP: Logged |
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Upside Member |
Van, I guess it would depend on which theory surrounding this stock you subscribe to. If you believe he is a less than honest man, it would make all the sense in the world. Release news that you think will drive the pps up, print and sell shares all day long, make a fortune. Do it over and over again, make many fortunes. IP: Logged |
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STAR GAZER Member |
The more bashers bash a stock, the more the stock looks interesting to me. They don't bash loosers. IP: Logged |
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CB Member |
Shore Gold PR out http://biz.yahoo.com/cnw/040622/shore_gold_recoveries_1.html I don't know were this drill site was, but I do know CMKX has sites in and around Shore Gold and De Beers [This message has been edited by CB (edited June 22, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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Booty Quest Member |
quote:
I think "SK" stands for Saskatchewan? IP: Logged |
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TradingWizard Member |
With so many CMKX shares being traded, and also possibly naked shorted, is there a possibility that this stock can reverse split? EAOP ------------------ IP: Logged |
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WWJD-thru-me Member |
Van-One of the rumors is that UC stopped reporting so he could buy back shares without reporting and stick it to the MM's who were shorting his stock. I do subscribe to this theory and I hope it is correct. I am confident that this company will be forthcoming with the share count, the number of short shares, any and all partnership agreements and the lab reports of various core samples. --------------------------------------------- It is getting a little old to hear the same old questions-the truth is still the same answer. Meaning that the half truth crap in the article that was posted from stockwatch that invites the longs to answer have all been answered on the previous 40+ pages. If they are not satisfied with those answers we don't have anything new to offer. But we will when we get the press release from the company that we are waiting for. The number of O/S has not been released yet and is unknown by the investors at this time. The quality law firm and lawyer hired by CMKX to give immediate attention to problems facing our company is one of the PR's that the article writer neglected to mention along with the fact that the company is in the process of working to become a reporting company again. Is any of this news to you? Why waste our time? The company believes there is a large naked short position in this stock and is forcing the issue by an audit and subsequent change of transfer agent. Not mentioned by such a high caliber newswriter? Who wrote it? Was it the Wall Street Journal. No? The National Enquirer? No, not even the caliber of the National Enquirer. No, Will gets to write his one sided stories for Stockwatch. I wonder who pays for that. --------------------------------------------- GLTA-IMO-DD-Debi We need a better quality of bashers on this board. They sent in the second string or they are in bigger trouble than they want to believe. [This message has been edited by WWJD-thru-me (edited June 22, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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Upside Member |
originally posted by WWJD-thru-me: quote: Debi, IP: Logged |
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VNGNTN1 Member |
DEBI You are correct ,but I know personally you have a second option ??? VAN PS hope you got an email from P IP: Logged |
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penny-trader Member |
Where is this report that you are refering to . I would like to read it myself. I welcome all negative feedback on this stock. the only way you can know the truth of the matter is to look at the possitive with the negative. i will not fall in love with any stock. as some have the custom in pennyland. bring on the negatives. 5 million strong and growing.
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WWJD-thru-me Member |
Hi Upside-I am interested in hearing anything new from the other side. But the same old, same old, hashed over questions are tiresome. This all boils down to the question of with the available information do you buy, sell or hold? For me it is a buy and a hold. I have bought as many as I will at this price. If it goes on sale further I will be buying as will the MM's. They will have a lot of competition getting those cheap shares. Everyone who thinks they will be able to buy in cheap is dreaming. There may be some newbies who will sell their shares back. But many longs believe the rumor of NS shares needing to be bought back, believe that the diamond PR's we will ultimately get is substantially better than the little tidbit put out under pressure to halp our Canadian partners resume trading. Many think the vast mineral rights have a huge monetary value and I agree. This is nothing new. The filings and the lawyer and law firm-still not news. The folks who want to sell-don't believe any of this apparently and are concerned about the large number of authorized shares. There are 500 Billion shares authorized. We don't know the Outstanding share count. I think it is on the low side of under 37 Billion but it is unknown. We do know the company was buying back shares and we know the company thinks this is naked shorted. It would seem reasonable to conclude (at least to me) that the company was buying back shares when it was flatlined and they could get plenty at .00005 or less. Either way we will know soon. There was a post yesterday that was positive and wrong (the jade one and once again anyone who has been in this stock for more than a month should have known that) and I would have eventually gotten around to correcting the poster but there was enough bashing going on that I didn't feel like entering the arena. I still think the downside to this stock is pretty small compared to the Upside potential. Do you still have your shares? I really will be buying more if it goes on sale. I would be happy to join the 50 million club. GLTA-IMO-DD-Debi IP: Logged |
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bill1352 Member |
this article did miss a bunch of very important stuff it did however bring up a few important things...bottom line none of us know the outcome. we may all be millionaires or we may all lose a few bucks. but for my money & shares where can i get so entertained for so many months for a grand.its exciting, frustrating, get to learn a thing or two and who knows a yr or 2 might even get me my house on the lake. or at least a picture post card of one...lol [This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited June 22, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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Upside Member |
Debi, Yes, I still have my shares and I also believe I will be able to sell them at a higher price. I don't believe that I will be buying more though even on the lowest of dips unless something comes out from the company to change my mind about them. I stated in a post a few pages back that I was almost starting to believe in this company until the last two p/r's came out (not counting the one about the bulletin board being shut down). Those two re-established my original beliefs about this company. They both smacked of deceit and the old type of CMKX p/r. Perhaps as some have speculated they were deliberately vague or "teasers" but it makes no sense to me to place your shareholders in a state of confusion. Lastly, I believe that old news shoud continue to be discussed and dissected. Many new investors come here, read at most a page or two of this thread and formulate an opinion. I think old news should be brought up on a regular basis and discussed so new potential investors will see both sides of the story. As always, I do respect your opinions and enjoy our diasgreement on this one, as up to now, it has been civil and polite. IP: Logged |
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Upside Member |
originaly posted by penny-trader: quote: Page 45 of this thread, posted at 13:21 by tradingpennys. IP: Logged |
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penny-trader Member |
Thank you Upside
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cabbage22 Member |
Shore Gold Inc (C-SGF) - News Release Shore Gold serves up initial Star kimberlite results Shore Gold Inc SGF
STAR DIAMOND PROJECT INITIAL DIAMOND RECOVERIES: 344 CARAT PARCEL Shore Gold Inc. has released the initial diamond recoveries for the first six sample batches processed from the Star kimberlite. These are the initial results of about 80 to 100 kimberlite batches that will be processed as part of the bulk sampling program on the Star diamond project, the aim of which is to recover a parcel of about 3,000 carats for valuation purposes. A total of 3,355 commercial-sized diamonds (greater than 1.18-millimetre square mesh screen), collectively weighing 338 carats, has been recovered from the treatment of 4,913 dry tonnes of kimberlite. Thirty-three diamonds greater than one carat have been recovered and the three largest stones are: 3.50, 3.31 and 3.19 carats, respectively. In addition, 352 diamonds (six carats) were recovered down to 0.85-millimetre square mesh. The colour of over 80 per cent of these diamonds has been classified as white, with a further 12 per cent classified as off-white. Initial kimberlite processing commenced in three areas of the Star kimberlite: 1.) The top of the kimberlite (batch 1) was used to commission the plant as low diamond grades were anticipated due to dilution caused by abundant mudstone xenoliths in the immediate vicinity of the shaft. 2.) Kimberlite was processed from the shaft above (batch 5) and below (batch 7A) the 175-metre shaft station, in addition to the kimberlite extracted to construct the 175-metre station (batch 6). 3.) Kimberlite from the 235-metre shaft station (batch 9) and kimberlite from the base of the shaft (batch 10). The kimberlite batches from the 175- and 235-metre shaft stations were processed to confirm lateral drift development proceeding on these levels. Batches 2A, 2B, 3A, 3B, 4A, 4B, 7B, 7C (all from shaft), 11 and 12 (from 235-metre level) have all been processed on site and the concentrates dispatched to the sorting laboratory for final diamond recovery. Results from these batches are pending. All batches processed to date are classified as crater facies volcaniclastic kimberlites. The batches from the upper portion of the Star kimberlite (batches 1 and 5) are late Joli Fou stratigraphic equivalent kimberlites while the batches from the lower part of the shaft (batches 7, 9 and 10) are early Joli Fou equivalent kimberlite. batch 6 is located approximately at the boundary of the early and late Joli Fou kimberlite phases. Batch 6 exhibits some dilution from country rock mudstone xenoliths. The results suggest significant grade differences between the early and the late Joli Fou kimberlites. Batch 7A is a highly altered kimberlite breccia. The first shaft station was established at 175 metres below surface, above this altered breccia, for mine safety reasons. It is anticipated that lateral drift development will intersect this highly prospective breccia to the east of the shaft. Current mining on the 235-metre level has intersected similar breccias to batch 7. Initial kimberlite processed and diamond results for these six sample batches are listed in the table below. Grades are expressed in carats per hundred tonnes (cpht).
5 Shaft: 6 Shaft and 7A Shaft: 9 Station: 10 Shaft: Loca- 1 Shaft: 5 Shaft: 6 Shaft and 7A Shaft: 9 Station: 10 Shaft:
Senior vice-president exploration, George Read, states: "These initial diamond results justify the significant work that has been required to commission this bulk sampling project. We are greatly encouraged by these results, in particular, the size and abundance of large stones and the overall high percentage of white stones." The diamond recovery procedure includes on-site processing of kimberlite through the modular dense media separator (DMS), after which DMS concentrates are batch fed through an X-ray flow-sort. In order to ensure the recovery of low luminosity diamonds, the flow-sort tailings are processed over a grease table. Flow-sort and grease table concentrates are transported by a secure carrier to SGS Lakefield Research for final diamond recovery. The SGS Lakefield Research process includes drying, screening, magnetic separation, manual sorting, and diamond weighing and description. SGS Lakefield Research is accredited to the ISO/IEC 17025 standard by the Standards Council of Canada as a testing laboratory for specific tests. Grease table tailings and samples of the DMS light fraction have been sent to Rio Tinto's Thunder Bay Mineral Processing Laboratory for audit. These tailings fractions will be audited for both free and locked diamonds down to 0.85-millimetre square mesh. The audit process includes screening, drying, magnetic separation, crushing and manual sorting. The audit process was delayed due to an abundance of sulphide in the grease table tailings of kimberlite batch 1. Grease table tailings audits for free diamonds have been completed for batch 1 and part of batch 6. Low diamond recoveries from the audit samples confirm the integrity of the processing plant. Most of the diamonds recovered from the audits are small (1.18- to 1.70-millimetre square mesh) and poor quality (brown or grey in colour). Audit sample processing continues and results will be integrated with final results. The Thunder Bay Mineral Processing Laboratory is accredited to the ISO/IEC 17025 standard by the Standards Council of Canada as a testing laboratory for specific tests. Mr. Read, a professional geoscientist in the provinces of Saskatchewan and British Columbia, is the qualified person responsible for the verification and quality assurance of analytical results. The Star diamond project is designed to recover a parcel of at least 3,000 carats of diamonds to enable an accurate valuation of the stones. Up to 25,000 tonnes of kimberlite will be recovered from the shaft and drifts and processed on site to produce this diamond parcel. The company is hosting a conference call at 9 a.m. Eastern Time on Wednesday, June 23, 2004. Please dial 1-877-888-7019 or 1-416-695-5259 to participate. IP: Logged |
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WWJD-thru-me Member |
Cabbage-Now that is what a sample report should look like. Hopefully we will get to read ours like that soon. GLTA-Debi IP: Logged |
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tradingpennys Member |
quote: .................................... Yes, I found it this morning... http://new.stockwatch.com/swnet/newsit/newsit_newsit.aspx?bid=U-s0119278-U:CMKX-20040622&symbol=CMKX&news_region=U&name=CMKM+DIAMONDS+INC&title=CMKM IP: Logged |
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tradingpennys Member |
Prince Albert Area Labour Market Bulletin - June 2004 MINING, OIL & GAS EXTRACTION CMKM Diamonds Inc. CMKM is primary operator with three other partners; United Carina Resources Corp., Consolidated Pine Channel Gold Corp. and U.S. Minerals Inc. for 27 mineral claims totalling 22,447 acres. CMKM can acquire a 25% interest in the claims by paying $500,000 U.S. and spending $200,000 on exploration and development before March 31, 2005. They are currently drilling on the Carolyn kimberlite pipe near Smeaton. IP: Logged |
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tradingpennys Member |
WallStreetNewscast.com - Where Wall Street Invests! CMKM Diamonds "Carolyn Pipe' Shows Some Promise Saskatchewan Research Council (SRC), an independent lab located in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan reported to the company today that the core samples from the "Carolyn Pipe" has come back positive for diamond content. The Smeaton property in Saskatchewan, Canada is jointly held by CMKM Diamonds Inc., being the primary operator of the claims, United Carina Resources Corp., Consolidated Pine Channel Gold Corp., and U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc.. In procedure of fair disclosure the company also announced that there is no guarantee that further exploration or drilling will produce any economic benefit to the company or the shareholders of the company. CORPORATE STRUCTURE CMKX has been gathering a lot of attention lately with their plans of retaining a new auditor and law firm. If CMKX is serious about cleaning their company up to become fully reporting and compliant, then they seem to be making to correct first steps, but still have a ways to go. As a first step, CMKX is correct to have a full audit conducted on the company, so as to know exactly how many shares and shareholders in the company. This will allow CMKX to review exactly what it is they are working with, and better work towards cleaning up the capital structure of the company. After the final audit, it would not be to surprising to see CMKX conduct some sort of reverse-split to reduce the number of shares outstanding, for they will most likely need this extra capital for production of their 'Carolyn Pipe" property. Of course, this would not be of great support to current shareholders, but would be a wise move for CMKX if they wish to clean up their capital structure to better reflect a higher exchange. I wouldn't expect a move on the capital structure issue until the auditing firm has had a chance to comb through the companies shares first. www.casavantmining.com Afterwards, CMKX should then use their new law firm to make all the appropriate filings to get CMKX fully reporting, and apply for relisting on the OTC exchange. A good law firm can also help CMKX retain friendly financing, or better yet, some strategic partnerships for production on the diamond property. Over all, there is still a lot work CMKX needs to do to clean up their capital structure, and get the company on a higher exchange, but in the mean time they seem to making the correct first steps to making this issue a reality. IP: Logged |
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TradingWizard Member |
quote: I asked and I had a feeling that no body wanted to touch this issue. I guess some elese is thinking about it: ....CMKX conduct some sort of reverse-split to reduce the number of shares outstanding, for they will most likely need this extra capital for production of their 'Carolyn Pipe" property. - this is a quote from above, and hope its speculation for now So what is the remedy to this issue - buy some more shares? What happens if it is 1:1000 reverse split?
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Upside Member |
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CB Member |
quote: Here is the location on the map from todays News PR for Shore Gold.This gives New Light to CMKX's Next drill Site..I think this is good news for CMKX share holders for the fact that CMKX is planning on drilling on one of there sites next to De Beers 75 cluster location in and or around a corner of that location. http://casavantmining.com/images/17x11_Oct03.pdf IP: Logged |
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From another Board I FOUND to BE INTERESTING: SPOKE WITH MELVIN: Posted by: robbbbbb98
Melvin is doing well, was glad to hear form him we talked about the races this past weekend, we talked about drilling, They are all working hard to continue the progress we so eagerly await. IMHO, Rob IP: Logged |
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HANG ON TO YOUR SHARES -- READ THIS... I read this on the CMKX unofficial website and it was a very exciting "MUST READ" Sterlings Latest (big) Post.. Your thoughts? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Many of us are Pawns in this game of Chess or even in what we know as life. The Pawn is considered your weakest piece for acknowledgment of power as compared to your Knights, Rooks, Bishops, Queen and King. Wisdom is what allows for the true understanding of how often the Pawn could be your strongest piece that puts your opponent in…Checkmate! I am about to go out in left field on this post. Those that read, understand, and somewhat agree with what I discuss below, come on out in left field with me. For those who don’t understand… I understand, go ahead and stay in the clubhouse. As for the Market Makers (MMs), that have naked shorted CMKX, hope for rain before the fifth inning. Urban increased the Authorized Shares to 500 billion back in Mar 04 and many had shown panic from fear of not understanding. What I am about to discuss is nothing more than what I think I understood to justify why he had done so mixed with some options of what I would do if I was Urban. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Most MMs such as NITE, BSIC, JEFF, etc. have so many thousands of stocks that they are monitoring and trade on a daily basis that CMKX is not yet even on their radars yet, if I had to guess. Eventually once we get on the radar of the MMs, the MMs would soon realize that resistance is futile. That time is nearing in my opinion. The MMs have different levels of awareness that a stock must graduate to obtain growing recognition. We have graduated to the next level. When Urban increased the AS to 500 billion shares, it caught ALL of the MMs off guard to think of them as your average pink sheet stock according to statistics. This was the best and most powerful move CMKX could have ever done. Previously, the MMs had reason to look at CMKX as one of those 90%+ penny stocks that never succeed in the penny world. Brilliant!!! Urban increased the AS to 500 billion to first show accountability of the entire share structure for CMKX. Then Urban bought/retired back roughly 480 billion shares since the OS was roughly about 20 billion before the retiring of shares had began according to old SEC filings. Eventually, Urban’s goal is to retire each and every share to only leave what we will call the variable X for an OS. The variable X will be restricted. This could mean that we have no Outstanding Shares (OS) or one that has been carefully orchestrated through share retirement to be very low. This means that most of us probably have naked shorted shares. The new official share count for CMKX will be whatever Urban reports to have for the recorded transactions for owning, not what we bought. There is a chance that Urban bout the remaining 20 billion to retire the entire OS and Float. With the thought of not having an OS, this means that we don’t have a denominator to use for establishing fundamental value since the OS is what’s used for such determination. For now, let’s assume that Urban left at least 1 share to allow for a denominator to simplify the assessment of fundamental value. We will use the variable X for the number 1. Let’s assume that X will be no lower than 1 until further specified to be considered different at the given times. This means that Urban has retire CMKX shares down to the level of a number known as X. This means that what Urban is creating is a brand new term that I call Infinite Valuation. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Infinite Valuation = Earned Income ÷ X = EPS (Earnings Per Share) Understand that X represents a number for the denominator when determining fundamental value as the OS keeps decreasing towards zero, but infinitely never reaches zero. This variable X will always be high enough to always capture the lowest OS before fully retiring in the example that I will be posting later. The thought is that the denominator keeps decreasing infinitely as it approaches zero, but never reaches zero. Earned Income is considered to be Revenue – Expenses or the “Intrinsic Value” that was made into an actual value. (Within the Intrinsic Value the expenses are already included.) Earned Income would be considered as your net profits from revenues minus expenses. Let’s capture how this would work. I am guessing that we have so much land full of kimberlite that there is no way we are going to mine all of what we have in our populated kimberlite areas. I am guessing that we will be selling some of that to those who are probably highly interested. Let’s take for an example that Urban releases confirmed valuation of $5 billion in CMKX. This means that because of what I explained above, our Infinite Valuation and EPS would equate to $5 billion per share. This is very powerful. What’s even more powerful, earlier I mentioned that we use X to show the number of the OS to represent the lowest number to use as a denominator. To fully understand the power of this example, let’s make the assumption that X=1 for the reasons above. Observe… Earned Income = $5,000,000,000 So… This means that Infinite Valuation is equal to $5 billion, which would be equal to the EPS. Yes, this would mean that we would have an EPS of $5 billion per share. Now back to the importance of retiring all shares except for 1 share. That 1 share could now be forward split to whatever number Urban desires to have for an OS. Now, Urban could pick any number to make this scenario work at this point. Let’s say he uses 5 billion. This would mean that Urban would now do a 5 billion to 1 forward split. This would give Urban an amount of 5 billion for our OS and we would have to multiply our shares by 5 billion to be given the same CMKX forward split ratio. Since us shareholders are all holding naked shorted shares, this magnifies the naked shorted problems by 5 billion times the amount it was already naked shorted to significantly further compound the problems for the MMs. This would no doubt force an accelerated naked short covering. With Urban having 5 billion for our new OS, he would simply retire those 5 billion shares by simply returning them back to the Treasury since those shares are restricted shares that had originated from the 1 pre-split share that was restricted, as I had previously mentioned. This would mean that in essence, we would then be already private because he would have already bought all shares needed and accounted for with taking CMKX private. All he would then have to do is just name his price for the Tender Offer of taking the company private and the MMs would have to cover by his price named by the execution date stated by Urban in the PR. This would be like Urban buying out himself since he would own all of the accountable shares. Urban could also do as stated above and do a Tender Offer while having 1 share for the OS of $1.00 per share. This means that if he has accountability of all shares minus 1, then all he would be required to legally pay for is that 1 share. The MMs would be responsible for covering with cash the $1 Tender Offer price that Urban had stated at his deemed execution date. The power of the example above is that Urban could execute the same concept at any number he deems fit to have temporarily as the OS. The same logic would apply to the naming of the Tender Offer. These actions would be arranged and designed to not be at his expense. Something else to ponder… After retiring all shares down to 1 share, Urban could do a forward split ratio of 100,000,000 to 1 to have CMKX do a 1 for 1 merger into what might be known as Saskatchewan Diamonds (the Triad of their JV partners - UCAD, UCA, & KPG). Still, with a merger, why have one company of value when you can two or multiple companies of value. Urban would then issue us a share dividend from Saskatchewan Diamonds too to entice holding to further make things difficult for the MMs to obtain shares/inventory needed to cover. Shareholders would hold to receive the share dividend of Saskatchewan Diamonds. Urban could issue a double, triple or more dividend of power to further compound the covering. Each would have their story for understanding. We could see the issuance of spin-off share dividends in new entities such as below: Another option to consider for making the MMs cover would be to issue a cash dividend such as… “For every 1 share of CMKX you own, you would receive a .01 cent or even .10 cents cash dividend.” Whatever price named would instantly make CMKX to be worth the price named x 2 in value. Here’s the power behind this. A cash dividend price named at .10 cents would give CMKX instant valuation of .20 cents. This is so because CMKX would hit .10 cents at minimum because that would be the same as assessing valuation for CMKX shareholders. Then once .10 cents is reached, CMKX would still have the remaining .10 cents coming to them to execute the cash dividend by the execution date. That’s a psychological double. This would equate to a certain amount that Urban would give to award such dividend. This would not be at any to very minimum cost to Urban. The cover would no doubt have to be forced to make sure each .10 cents increment matches each share according to the amount of shares verified per CUSIP number that the company’s Transfer Agent reports. Still, if Urban verifies accountability of a huge position, then the payout of the dividend would be minimal because it would act as if he was paying out himself. Another option to consider for making the MMs cover would be to re-issue the CIM dividend with an extension of the old 30 Sep 03 date to be at some date in the future. This would serve three primary purposes: 1. Entice shareholders to hold during any covering to put more pressure on the MMs. I am sure that Urban wants to retire the entire OS and the float. If and when he has, this means that we are the float. This means that all of our shares are probably naked shorted shares. This means that the MMs have a serious problem. This means that shares recently bought over the past few months are naked shorted shares. This means that shares bought today and in the future are naked shorted shares. This means that the MMs are allowing for this problem to continue escalating to a level where some major rectification is going to have to take place. This means SEC and NASD interface for resolution will become manifest. Now I really see why Urban had to get the best New York law firm in this field of resolution. This is starting to get very interesting. I’m sure with Glenn having prior SEC law writing experience, he would know exactly how to get this resolved. Many were not sure whether or not if Glenn was there for the defense of CMKX or the support of CMKX for going after the MMs. All of the above are only some “food for thought” as to how I would consider resolving this issue if I was Urban. They are “theory” until proven to be “facts” by the company. I believe that prosperity is upon us with CMKX! Check mate! Game Over! All is well! http://www.sterlingsclass.com/ ;-) [/QUOTE] [This message has been edited by kevinscott (edited June 23, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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cool1sh Member |
from IHUB.. good read..
Is there a silver lining in the middle of this murky time frame? Yes. The company is actually starting to act like a real company. And this must be scaring the shorts far more than anything else right now. We have hired a top tier law firm. We have switched transfer agents. We have shut down our message board. Melvin's IBC appearances have now been yanked. The "Get it while it's hot" self-promotion on the website has been removed. In the past 12 days, despite a sagging stock price, no PRs have been put out to try to prop the price up (the lawyer PR was one paragraph and straight forward, and the message board PR was obviously not intended to promote the company, just to inform investors (albeit in an immature way)). All of this is pretty much contradictory to the way most otc or pinks operate at this juncture. And that must be pretty scary to some shorts. Most otcs or pinks at this point begin an even MORE aggressive promotional push to "combat" everything being thrown at them. To the contrary, things are frustratingly quiet on the long front. And they should be. The problem with most otcs and pinks is that good lawyers are NOT involved and the CEOs end up doing all the things that the shorts just sit back and LAUGH at. Let me give you a good example. Here's a press release from a company that I suspect is under a short attack. Their stock price reached almost two dollars and got slammed back to 60 cents. So how do they respond? With this press release: Laughable. A self-proclaimed piece of promotional rubbish that actually has the gall to declare themselves the next TASR. How did the shorts react? Oh no!!!!! They let the buying frenzy run the stock from 63 cents to 95 cents on the day of that press release. And they have comfortably shorted it back down to 78 cents today with probably much more to go. Or how about QBID's daily "message hotline" which basically feeds advanced notice of their press releases to the public. All efforts by pennyland CEOs to fight back exactly as the shorts anticipate them to fight back. My point is that instead of seeing such desperate moves, CMKX has been strangely quiet. They didn't even put out a press release to try to "explain" the press release from UCA/KPG, a move I almost for sure thought Urban would try to squeeze out. Nope. Nothing. Any coincidence that in the middle of this silence is a PR simply stating that the new law firm is beginning its work? I think not. I think we are starting to finally see the wheels of the law firm start to turn. Slowly at first. More rapidly I hope as true progress emerges. If we're for real, than this is the path I find MOST encouraging. If we were NOT for real, I suspect we'd be seeing some pretty aggressive promotional efforts going on right now in an effort "support the share price" and "increase shareholder value". The fact that we have Edwards Angell in our corner right now is presenting a very unique wrinkle to the naked shorts -- they have likely never faced an otc or pink sheet with actual legal firepower behind them. To compound matters even worse, there are so many "free riders" at this stage (people who are letting their shares ride after taking an initial investment off the table) that those shares are simply not coming loose. Not in enough volume at least to counteract the buying. I know this is tough and it's almost laughable after we've fallen from .0011 to .0005 but my honest guess is that the shorts are now starting to get reasonably concerned and our game plan is starting to mature behind the scenes. In ten years of penny investing, I've never seen these forces align quite like this. I can't say that I "like" our position since I'd rather us be in the pennies already. But I can say that this is the path I would most likely script out for a small, emerging company that actually has something tangible and real and wants the world to take them seriously. Good luck to us. There will be many pain threshholds. I think where we are right now is the first among many to test our will. Z As always, these are my personal opinions. Hopefully nobody in here is investing anything but "fun" money that they can afford to gamble with. IP: Logged |
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kevinscott Member |
JUST REMEMBER -- HOLD ON TO YOUR SHARES TODAY -- Don't let the MM's get them and to cover their shorts IP: Logged |
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cool1sh Member |
I am not selling a SINGLE share before 0010 (even for swing trade). If the lose hands fall and the MMs are covered, there is a greater chance for this stock to run. JMO GO CMKX! IP: Logged |
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Vinny Member |
quote: I expect some big news today!! Gonna make some good money IP: Logged |
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pharmdman Member |
quote: I hope you're right... but i'm thinking thursday night or friday.... hope i'm wrong! LOL IP: Logged |
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pharmdman Member |
wow! anyone else just see a couple hundred MILLION shares trade at once!? IP: Logged |
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