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GoldieStox
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posted June 17, 2004 12:39     Click Here to See the Profile for GoldieStox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Melvin on radio:

Said "How did you like the PR yesterday?" "It was good, yes?"

"Bigger and better things are on the way."

"Very impressed on what is happening."

He said he "....is on the way to the site."

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now will someone explain naked shorting to me?

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bulls
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posted June 17, 2004 12:40     Click Here to See the Profile for bulls     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
before cmkx hits dollars do you think we might see .0002 on cmkx again or even .0001 ?

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noahltl
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posted June 17, 2004 12:41     Click Here to See the Profile for noahltl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Melving cleared the message board again. Then spoke on IBC. Now the message board is down for 15 minutes. Something big coming?

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TradingWizard
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posted June 17, 2004 12:42     Click Here to See the Profile for TradingWizard     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sarki316:
LOOK BUDDY. JUST HOLD ON TO THIS STOCK. WHEN IT WILL HIT 3.00 I DONT KNOW BUT IT WILL. TRUST ME

DON'T BELEIEVE WHAT ANYBODY ELSE SAYS. DON'T GET NERIVIOUS AND SELL IT WILL BE THE BIGGEST MISTAKE YOU'LL MAKE.

ALL I CAN SAY JUST HOLD ON AND RELAX BUDDY.


Sarki or sparki who ever you are, please calm down. Were you the one crying your eyes out yesterday and now you think this will go to $5 blah blah balh. Get real, and get a real life please. We are trying to be reasonable here. Thank you and Good day!


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bulls
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posted June 17, 2004 12:43     Click Here to See the Profile for bulls     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
non covered stocks is like selling selling numbers through electronic funding.Market maker controls the pps and not the company

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cool1sh
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posted June 17, 2004 12:47     Click Here to See the Profile for cool1sh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks GS..
It'd been nicer if he said bigger, better and sooner.

Naked Shorting in 1 sentence:
Market Makers (MM) selling more shares than they were authorized to sell. Some ppl think there are 500B-1T CMKX shares even though the O/S is lot less.


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Originally posted by GoldieStox:
Melvin on radio:

Said "How did you like the PR yesterday?" "It was good, yes?"

"Bigger and better things are on the way."

"Very impressed on what is happening."

He said he "....is on the way to the site."

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now will someone explain naked shorting to me?


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WinsumLosesum
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posted June 17, 2004 12:48     Click Here to See the Profile for WinsumLosesum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[This message has been edited by WinsumLosesum (edited June 17, 2004).]

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MiggyTrader
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posted June 17, 2004 12:49     Click Here to See the Profile for MiggyTrader     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hate to burst ur bubble. I'm also dying for that SL 55 AMG, but if U guys see $3 - $5 in the near future, then I'm not gonna get my car, because the ONLY WAY THAT IT WILL HIT $3 - $5 IS THROUGH A REVERSE SPLIT AND NONE OF US WANT THAT!!!

0.0007 to $3 = 428571.43% - If someone can show me just one stock that rose 428571.43% in a year, the I will be a believer.

Come on....I know its a free country, but lets be real here.

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WWJD-thru-me
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posted June 17, 2004 12:51     Click Here to See the Profile for WWJD-thru-me     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Goldiestox-Naked shorting stock means selling shares of a stock you don't own (shorting) without seeing if they are available to borrow and not accounting for them or returning them. So basically they are creating shares out of thin air. Doing this creates an unlimited supply of the stock so even if our demand is very high- there does not have to be any pressure on the price since supply and demand doesn't matter with an unlimited supply. The MM's (market makers are allowed to be Naked short to create a liquid market but are supposed to nake sure shares are available and cover and settle at some point). It becomes fraud when it reaches the point it has with CMKX. They are possibly short the whole Outstanding share count and then some. The new law firm is going to help CMKX become a fully reporting company and I believe it will help the company fix the Naked shorts in an innovative, effective, iron fisted kind of way. Can't wait to see what happens.
IMO-DD-GLTA-Debi
There are many more experienced investors who can give a better description of this than I did. But at least you have an answer.

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justplayin
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posted June 17, 2004 12:52     Click Here to See the Profile for justplayin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we are all with ya Miggy. At least this kind of excitement is too far fetched to snag anyone.

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Upside
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posted June 17, 2004 12:54     Click Here to See the Profile for Upside     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Goldie:
here's the textbook definition:

Naked Shorting: The illegal practice of short selling shares that haven't been borrowed or do not exist at all.

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StonedPigeon
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posted June 17, 2004 13:00     Click Here to See the Profile for StonedPigeon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by sarki316:
[B]LOOK BUDDY. JUST HOLD ON TO THIS STOCK. WHEN IT WILL HIT 3.00 I DONT KNOW BUT IT WILL. TRUST ME

DON'T BELEIEVE WHAT ANYBODY ELSE SAYS. DON'T GET NERIVIOUS AND SELL IT WILL BE THE BIGGEST MISTAKE YOU'LL MAKE.

ALL I CAN SAY JUST HOLD ON AND RELAX BUDDY.

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Caution! Hype

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JBCak47
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posted June 17, 2004 13:01     Click Here to See the Profile for JBCak47     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay question, I am still a little unsure of one thing.

The shares I bought this past week, are in my account. If those shares have been shorted or naked shorted, do I infact really have them? At some point, if the MM's are forced to cover, they can't legally say that I have to give them up right? I mean, they can't say 'well these were non-existant shares, therefore these shares are null and void, not real?'

How would they 'cover' for these shares, the MM's I mean. My question is are the share si own now, safe? I am a little confused, just about this.

If the MM's have to cover, they are forced to pay the differnce I suppose, right? Is that why some are projecting a huge jump up, like to .02 or .03??? Or would it jump up to .1? If the MM's have to cover, couldn't they keep the price down to .0002, rebuying the shares and holding onto them??? Thanks in advance.

-John

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StonedPigeon
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posted June 17, 2004 13:03     Click Here to See the Profile for StonedPigeon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
they would have to buy them at market

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TradingWizard
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posted June 17, 2004 13:03     Click Here to See the Profile for TradingWizard     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think as long you have purchase slip from the institution you bought your stock - you should be okay, but I am not sure if this correct. Can anyone confirm?

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JBCak47
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posted June 17, 2004 13:05     Click Here to See the Profile for JBCak47     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That sounds fine to me... Thanks guys

Hola SP

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StonedPigeon
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posted June 17, 2004 13:08     Click Here to See the Profile for StonedPigeon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
right back at ya!

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VNGNTN1
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posted June 17, 2004 13:11     Click Here to See the Profile for VNGNTN1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TW
That is what Ameritrade told me A year ago.
REGULARS & ESPECIALLY YOU GARDENERS!!
Smell anything being carried in on the shoes today ?
VAN

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited June 17, 2004).]

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TradingWizard
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posted June 17, 2004 13:13     Click Here to See the Profile for TradingWizard     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I included naked shorting under thread I started 'Cool Definitions', hope some of you don't mind - I have credited all the contributors. http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum9/HTML/000369.html

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Upside
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posted June 17, 2004 13:15     Click Here to See the Profile for Upside     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You'll be fine unless the trillion share naked short theory comes to pass. Then, who knows what would happen. If they have to cover in excess of a trillion shares at say a dime, thats 100 billion dollars. Where's that money going to come from? Sure they have insurance but I don't think in those kind of quantities. There's talk about forcing a cover at over $1.00. It couldn't happen. Where is 1 trillion dollars going to come from? Anyway, yes your shares are fine, no need to worry.

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klempar77
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I try to speak with MELVIN on the air IBC. but no luck

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TradingWizard
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posted June 17, 2004 13:18     Click Here to See the Profile for TradingWizard     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
TW
That is what Ameritrade told me A year ago.
REGULARS & ESPECIALLY YOU GARDENERS!!
Smell anything being carried in on the shoes today ?
VAN

Thanks :-)

The rabbit probably took vacation, and now the cat is back.

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VNGNTN1
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posted June 17, 2004 13:24     Click Here to See the Profile for VNGNTN1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think in the 1 t short that brokers(clients) would get covered first by Insurance, then brokers, then MM(in many cases brokers & MM same) , in any case it would split as wide as possible.
Don't know about you but your account is insured for $250,000. I have shares in 4 accounts, doesn't that = $1m ????
VAN

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sarki316
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posted June 17, 2004 13:51     Click Here to See the Profile for sarki316     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The reason CMKX IS GOOD

1) THEY STATED THEY FOUND DIAMOND CONTENT IN THE KRIMBRILTE FINDINGS

2) AFTER STATING THAT. THEY HIRE A BIG NY FIRM. WHY????? THEY FOUND SOMETHING REAL BIG THAT IS WHY. AND TO PROVE THAT

3) THEY HAULT A PROJECT TO CONCENTRATE ON THERE CURRENT DRILLING WHERE THEY FOUND KRIMBRILTE.

THAT IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW.

IF YOU EVER ASK ME WHY I LIKE CMKX AGAIN. JUST SELL YOU SHARES SO I CAN BUY THEM BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT STOCKS.

I WON'T POST ANYMORE BEACUSE I SAID WHAT I STINK. I FEEL THERE ARE ALOT OF PEOPLE ON THIS SITE THAT DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO TRADE. WIZARDKID!!!

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Upside
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posted June 17, 2004 13:55     Click Here to See the Profile for Upside     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
originally posted by sarki316:
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Tradewhizard
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You're not going to bash him? What do you call this? You should probably move along now. No one would miss you much.

[This message has been edited by Allstocks (edited June 17, 2004).]

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Money_Penny
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posted June 17, 2004 13:57     Click Here to See the Profile for Money_Penny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sarki316:
I SAID WHAT I STINK.

LOL, I am glad this is only a virtual chat room, not a real one! Anyway, I like your enthusiasm and I too am sick of the negativity on this board. Let's focus on getting rich!

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will
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posted June 17, 2004 13:58     Click Here to See the Profile for will     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you don't pick the scab, UpMan, it will heal and go away. For my money that ignorant ass is dead, I can ignore his rudeness.
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Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by sarki316:
You're not going to bash him? What do you call this? You should probably move along now. No one would miss you much.


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Upside
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originally posted by will:
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If you don't pick the scab, UpMan, it will heal and go away. For my money that ignorant ass is dead, I can ignore his rudeness.

Good point Will but don't people like that get under your skin? Arrogant chest beater who's here for no reason other than to brag about how good he is. I'll ignore him.

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Bob_dog
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posted June 17, 2004 14:11     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob_dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone tell me were we sit on the bid?
Thanks
Bob

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osubucks30
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posted June 17, 2004 14:16     Click Here to See the Profile for osubucks30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lets say cmkx does do a reverse split this still could be good.

EXAMPLE ONLY

10 billion outstanding shares reverse by 1 share to every 100. Now there would only be 100 million shares. Then WHEN they find the BIG diamonds the MM's can't hold the price down.

1 million shares would become 10000! With only 100 million shares this would easily go over $1!

So even at these prices you can buy 1 million SHARES for $700 this could be turned into over $10000!

The problem with cmkx is that the MM's have tons of shares and can hold the price down. Although if people keep buying this stock could jump quickly suddenly!

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rsnws
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posted June 17, 2004 14:21     Click Here to See the Profile for rsnws     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BID
4@.0006
10@.0005

ASK

6@.0007
6@.0008
1@.009
1@.001


quote:
Originally posted by Bob_dog:
Can anyone tell me were we sit on the bid?
Thanks
Bob

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TradingWizard
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posted June 17, 2004 14:21     Click Here to See the Profile for TradingWizard     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks :-) you know who you are.
TW (Anna)

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Bob_dog
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posted June 17, 2004 14:23     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob_dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!!!
Bob

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BB
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posted June 17, 2004 14:23     Click Here to See the Profile for BB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there any advantage of having Certificates if something crazy happens to CMKX? For instance being heavily shorted and the MM's trying to cover and/or the insurance companies getting involved paying out on the shorting? Just trying to cover all bases just in case.

BB

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Wallace#1
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posted June 17, 2004 14:24     Click Here to See the Profile for Wallace#1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It appears we have quite a few new so-called "contributors" here on Allstocks that we never had before. Either they are coming out of the woods, from under rocks or from Brooklyn! LOL

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VNGNTN1
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posted June 17, 2004 14:27     Click Here to See the Profile for VNGNTN1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BB
I have mulled over same question and did request mine 2 years ago,but signed them back to broker. Just wanted to see if it could be done. These are a pain if you trade because they must be handled. Noone should have much (more) than they can lose here anyway, just let it run.
WALLACE
My Garden point earlier Guess you have never shovled manuer.
VAN

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sarki316
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posted June 17, 2004 14:29     Click Here to See the Profile for sarki316     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look WILL I just speak my mind. if that bothers you sorry, you too wizard. I am not here to bash you or anybody else.

I won't say anything more to PISS YOU GUYS OFF. lol!!!!

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Money_Penny
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Well then, why don't us NOOBS go ahead and introduce ourselves? I'll start with myself:

HELLO, my name is Kai, I am a 34 year old male from Ohio and I am addicted to Allstocks...

I am new to this board and I am new to investing as well. I bought a small quantity of CMKX for my kids and myself. I won't be able to "contribute" much at this stage, so I am mostly here to learn. I have been doing a lot of reading lately, and I am catching on (I think) - I even know now that we sell and buy our shares from "short & naked M&M's" LOL.

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BB
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Wallace, I use to be on this board a lot last year. I started buying shares @ .0004 (last yr.) and averaged down to .00012 and have 50 mil. shares now. I also have 10 mil. free shares of CIM which I hope will do something some day. After months of seeing CMKX @ .0001 you kind of lose interest in talking about the stock. Now that it's doing something it has rejuvenated a lot of us. I want to see the price go steadily up so there won't be that big drop back. Everyone knows when the price goes up too fast it comes down hard most times. Someone posted a chart on QBID earlier and I liked the way it showed how it went up gradually and came down some the same way. GLTY.

BB

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will
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There's a thread for that, please let's not clutter this thread anymore than it already is, thanks.
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Originally posted by Money_Penny:
Well then, why don't us NOOBS go ahead and introduce ourselves? I'll start with myself:

HELLO, my name is Kai, I am a 34 year old male from Ohio and I am addicted to Allstocks...

I am new to this board and I am new to investing as well. I bought a small quantity of CMKX for my kids and myself. I won't be able to "contribute" much at this stage, so I am mostly here to learn. I have been doing a lot of reading lately, and I am catching on (I think) - I even know now that we sell and buy our shares from "short & naked M&M's" LOL.


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quote:
Originally posted by osubucks30:
Lets say cmkx does do a reverse split this still could be good.

EXAMPLE ONLY

10 billion outstanding shares reverse by 1 share to every 100. Now there would only be 100 million shares. Then WHEN they find the BIG diamonds the MM's can't hold the price down.

1 million shares would become 10000! With only 100 million shares this would easily go over $1!

So even at these prices you can buy 1 million SHARES for $700 this could be turned into over $10000!

The problem with cmkx is that the MM's have tons of shares and can hold the price down. Although if people keep buying this stock could jump quickly suddenly!



That is if the investors look the the R/S as a good signal...The company would need to handle the R/S very carefully....Almost 99% of the time it is viewed as negative action & the stock drops right after the R/S....

I bought in 1000000 shares once the price started going up @0.0006....just on the hype....

I would expect it to go atleast to 0.0030 before any R/S....

How many O/S is there anyway ? Anybody has that info ?

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Intrsting post on company board about two things
1-Possible mistake made i PR about the mass of two diamonds found.
2-Someoen has figured out PR schedule 2 today and 1 friday 8 m.
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If the a size correction of 1000% .001mg to .001g this could be good. Also ina separate note Melvin said he was surprised by news from UCD and was better than reported ?????
VAN

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.0008 is back

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Upside
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originally posted by Money_Penny:
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I even know now that we sell and buy our shares from "short & naked M&M's" LOL.

Yep, little guys with no clothes. Mean little baztards too!

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osubucks30
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No one knows how many shres are out there!

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VNGNTN1
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O30
Not true
UC does
VAN

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noahltl
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NEWS NEWS NEWS

UCAD issued PR announcing change of accounting firm. May be first signal of the anticipated merger. Getting ducks in a row.
http://biz.yahoo.com/e/040617/ucad.ob8-k.html

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Wallace#1
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Someone ought to start a thread on rumors started and by whom. There are many reasons a company changes accountants. One reason is they do not want an honest firm...just one that will agree to everything the company demands.

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I think we had quite a interesting business developments around these sister companies beside the diamond finds in a past 2 weeks. I must say, we probably must sit tight for now and see what will happen next.

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noahltl
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There are many companies that change dental plans too, but they don't release a PR about it unless they are sending a signal to the market.

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