posted June 13, 2004 13:03            

quote:

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Originally posted by STAR GAZER:
fjean you brought up a question of what would
happen if cmkx hit oil during their drilling.
I have another qustion about oil, hope it doesn't upset people, but:
If corn oil is made from corn
and
vegetavle oil is made from vegetables
and
fish oil comes from fish
then
what is baby oil made from?

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posted June 13, 2004 13:08            

MMs follow a simple code of business when making a
market in a stock especially an OTC BB / PS. That is the
level that stocks will seek that yields the most
volume. Now this is very important because they
make money on the volume buying at the bid and
selling at the ask. In other words, by making the
market they are buying low and selling high. Now
smart money adheres to that rule, so do all the
market makers. They could careless whether the
stock is at $22 or at $0.0002. All they care about
is the action thus being able to sell stock at the
offer (The high) and buy stock at the bid (The
low). To increase their profitability, they make
the spread as great as possible on as many shares
as they can especially if the volume falls off.

When they have mostly all "buy" orders, that's not
the price that's going to yield the most volume.
They need both buy and sells to get the maximum
action. Remember, MMs play the volume. If the
volume decreases and there are mostly Buys that
become a one way volume, Buy volume. So what they
do is let the stock run up to a price where it runs
out of steam. They fill all the buy orders there
that they can and then comes the pullback one way
or another naturally or induced. During the pull
back they can buy tons of shares and flip them to
those averaging down or trying to catch the bounce.
At some price, the stock will be relatively stable
and yield the most volume. Now that is the average
price you will see

The average price is the point where a stock seeks
a level where MMs can profit on the most volume.
So during the day that is the price that MMs and
momentum/day traders want to see the stock at. Why?
Because they know the public and dumb money was
chasing the price thing up. Most of the time, the
MMs love a flurry of Market Orders which is a dead
sign of an artificial run or momentum. Merely it
is money in the bank for them. Most get hung in a
momentum or day trade or by the tactics of Market
makers, who are in the business to screw the public
every chance they get. They are merely making the
market liquid is their reasoning.

The market makers have created an added
complication to the OTCBB's /PS chaos of the already
volatile intra-day price movements created by dumb
money, momentum and day-traders. MMs can not relate
to long-term holders in the OTC BB / PS. That makes
absolutely no sense what so ever. They feel a large
percentage of trades in the OTC BB / PS market consist
of short-term or day-trades, MMs merely view the
barrage of buy and sell orders as relatively
neutral to the market. How they figure it is when
the average dumb money buys shares in a company,
the MMs feel or rather know with some certainty it
is very likely that dumb money will want to sell
back those shares relatively quick on the slightest
drop.

Now somewhat comfortable with this logic the MMs
merely short sells into the buying and attempts to
take the stock down in an effort to "shake out" the
weak. Since it is tough to know for sure whether a
move is the beginning of a trend, or a routine
shake out, this type of deception works quite well
for the MMs. What the long-termers do to a stock
is surprise the MMs because instead of falling, the
shorting has no effect and the price goes up. Now
that puts the MM at selling low through shorting
and thus having to buy high in order to cover.

Boy, when this happens, the MMs are not very happy
campers. The investors and traders aren't supposed to
be doing that to them. Now it becomes time to pull
out every trick and tactic in the book in order to
attempt to get a Bear Raid at every dollar/cent mark or
percent from where the stock started. Could be a
fraction of a penny in smaller priced securities.
What MMs do is give you a chance to make a small amount
of money for your momentum and day trading style by
shorting it at these levels and trying to get a bear raid
each time. Each failure is compounding the MMs
short position so they let it go to the next level.
Now come more deliberate tactics MMs use to coerce
Bear Raid or panic selling.

Once the MM is caught short and the strength of the
buy is overpowering the MM will want to cover his
short position. So the MMs call up one of his
friendly MMs and says some like "the weather is
sure rough today." The MM along with the other
"friendly MM initiates a down tick about the same
time. Now this can also be done with a certain
amount of shares such as an infamous 100 shares
flag. This down tick gives the illusion of weakness
designed to hopefully begin the bear raid of
selling. The fickle, fearful, day trader, momentum
and short term begin to sell out allowing the MM
to cover his short position at lower prices. They
will move it down quickly to get it to a price of
least financial damage. Problem they have is
long-term investors in the OTC BB / PS. They start
accumulating and buying comes flying in when they
take it too far thus the MMs took it to the point
of volume again and not only investors the other
MMs step in the make money on the spread.

Alas the poor MM does not get to cover. Now comes
various tactics like stalling, boxing, or even
locking the Bid and Ask for a while.

Of course, MMs aggressively deny any sort of
collusion designed to fix quotes or spreads.

MMs have a vast resource of tactics and it would
take probably more than a lifetime to figure them
all out.

So how do investors somehow manage to overcome the
obvious deception in OTCBB arena? One answer is
indirection trading style by going long which the
MMs do not expect. In the war between investors and
public companies on the OTC BB / PS vs the MMs, if the
MMs have all the advantages due to position or
other factors, direct confrontation such as
momentum or day trading hitting the stock is a
definite death sentence.

However, an indirect approach tends to weaken the
path of least resistance before slowly overcoming
it. The most effective way is long-term investors
slowly accumulating and holding thus drawing the
MMs out of its defenses making them as naked as
their short position. This is war so this slow
accumulation and holding for the long term easily
achieves the desired effect to force MMs to cover
and knock off the tactics or bury themselves
deeper.

The MMs when caught will especially use every trick
and tactic in the book to get a Bear Raid thus
playing on the individual fear of most people. The
MMs feel they have information and position
advantages over the investors as long as the
holding of the stock is in weak hands or short term
holders. Since they are OTC BB MMs who believe all
OTCBB companies are not worth investing and
management is ineffective regardless what is
happening within the company. Furthermore, MMs know
they are in the position to impose a great deal of
influence in OTC BB stocks trading when it suits
their needs.

This inherent power of position enables the MMs to
move the markets at any time up or down. As a
result, the only way to draw them out of their
favorable position is going long. Now this does not
mean just any company but to effectively nail the
MMs, Longs must find the great company on the floor
and accumulate long before the MM tactics and games
begin.

posted June 13, 2004 13:12              

quote:

---

Originally posted by Bam Bam 17:
By jawz_2020
http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=19921

CMKX O\S = 8.7 BILLION NEW TRANSFER CO TELLS CALLER

SOMEBODY TELEPHONED THE NEW TRANSFER COMPANY AND ASKED WHAT THE SIZE OF THE OUTSTANDING SHARES WAS THEY WERE TO RECEIVE - THE SECRETARY LOOKED AT A PIECE OF PAPER AND TOLD THE CALLER:

"8.7 BILLION SHARES - GEE THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT."

---

Where are you coming from????? They haven't even said that found diamonds yet. They said they found traces of material that might contain diamonds. Stop printing figures that you know nothing about. Be honest and realistic.

Bob

posted June 13, 2004 13:14              

quote:

---

Originally posted by STAR GAZER:
I found a good post at another site where the
person said that he found a good post at another site on how MM's work. Basically it says that the MM's short stock when it rises because they feel that they can then scare people into selling the stock and thus make money. If people don't sell the stock, then the MM's have to buy it back and this actually makes the stock rise. Since we have over half a BILLION shares of CMKX, and most are not planning on selling for a while, it could mean that the MM's will decide that they had better cover their short shares and thus drive the stock up. Here is the post, you might want to read it and get a better idea of what is going on.
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By: 1greeneyedhawk
12 Jun 2004, 04:06 PM EDT
Msg. 8483 of 8484
Jump to msg. #
MM tatics...
Good read from another board:
More and more investors are winning the game
nowadays despite all bashers that float through the
Internet that has become part of the game. Floor
traders of market makers often watch CNBC, news
wires and bulletin boards in order to follow the
market during trading session. OTC BB market makers
(MMs) don't use fundamental and technical analysis.
However, what they do realize is a lot of dumb
money does use this newest niche charting or TA
(Technical Analysis) to run a stock either up or
down. To the MMs this is like taking candy from a
baby. Simply they will paint the tape and use
whatever tactic to affect the charting bands. Thus
the public and dumb money they will have eating out
of their hands. Effectively the MMs can show a
strong stock growing weak by manipulating the close
price in order to generate selling volume, delaying
trading time to manipulate trading activities, or
even stalling the ask without honoring orders to
hold a stock price.

MMs follow a simple code of business when making a
market in a stock especially an OTC BB / PS. That is the
level that stocks will seek that yields the most
volume. Now this is very important because they
make money on the volume buying at the bid and
selling at the ask. In other words, by making the
market they are buying low and selling high. Now
smart money adheres to that rule, so do all the
market makers. They could careless whether the
stock is at $22 or at $0.0002. All they care about
is the action thus being able to sell stock at the
offer (The high) and buy stock at the bid (The
low). To increase their profitability, they make
the spread as great as possible on as many shares
as they can especially if the volume falls off.

When they have mostly all "buy" orders, that's not
the price that's going to yield the most volume.
They need both buy and sells to get the maximum
action. Remember, MMs play the volume. If the
volume decreases and there are mostly Buys that
become a one way volume, Buy volume. So what they
do is let the stock run up to a price where it runs
out of steam. They fill all the buy orders there
that they can and then comes the pullback one way
or another naturally or induced. During the pull
back they can buy tons of shares and flip them to
those averaging down or trying to catch the bounce.
At some price, the stock will be relatively stable
and yield the most volume. Now that is the average
price you will see

The average price is the point where a stock seeks
a level where MMs can profit on the most volume.
So during the day that is the price that MMs and
momentum/day traders want to see the stock at. Why?
Because they know the public and dumb money was
chasing the price thing up. Most of the time, the
MMs love a flurry of Market Orders which is a dead
sign of an artificial run or momentum. Merely it
is money in the bank for them. Most get hung in a
momentum or day trade or by the tactics of Market
makers, who are in the business to screw the public
every chance they get. They are merely making the
market liquid is their reasoning.

The market makers have created an added
complication to the OTCBB's /PS chaos of the already
volatile intra-day price movements created by dumb
money, momentum and day-traders. MMs can not relate
to long-term holders in the OTC BB / PS. That makes
absolutely no sense what so ever. They feel a large
percentage of trades in the OTC BB / PS market consist
of short-term or day-trades, MMs merely view the
barrage of buy and sell orders as relatively
neutral to the market. How they figure it is when
the average dumb money buys shares in a company,
the MMs feel or rather know with some certainty it
is very likely that dumb money will want to sell
back those shares relatively quick on the slightest
drop.

Now somewhat comfortable with this logic the MMs
merely short sells into the buying and attempts to
take the stock down in an effort to "shake out" the
weak. Since it is tough to know for sure whether a
move is the beginning of a trend, or a routine
shake out, this type of deception works quite well
for the MMs. What the long-termers do to a stock
is surprise the MMs because instead of falling, the
shorting has no effect and the price goes up. Now
that puts the MM at selling low through shorting
and thus having to buy high in order to cover.

Boy, when this happens, the MMs are not very happy
campers. The investors and traders aren't supposed to
be doing that to them. Now it becomes time to pull
out every trick and tactic in the book in order to
attempt to get a Bear Raid at every dollar/cent mark or
percent from where the stock started. Could be a
fraction of a penny in smaller priced securities.
What MMs do is give you a chance to make a small amount
of money for your momentum and day trading style by
shorting it at these levels and trying to get a bear raid
each time. Each failure is compounding the MMs
short position so they let it go to the next level.
Now come more deliberate tactics MMs use to coerce
Bear Raid or panic selling.

Once the MM is caught short and the strength of the
buy is overpowering the MM will want to cover his
short position. So the MMs call up one of his
friendly MMs and says some like "the weather is
sure rough today." The MM along with the other
"friendly MM initiates a down tick about the same
time. Now this can also be done with a certain
amount of shares such as an infamous 100 shares
flag. This down tick gives the illusion of weakness
designed to hopefully begin the bear raid of
selling. The fickle, fearful, day trader, momentum
and short term begin to sell out allowing the MM
to cover his short position at lower prices. They
will move it down quickly to get it to a price of
least financial damage. Problem they have is
long-term investors in the OTC BB / PS. They start
accumulating and buying comes flying in when they
take it too far thus the MMs took it to the point
of volume again and not only investors the other
MMs step in the make money on the spread.

Alas the poor MM does not get to cover. Now comes
various tactics like stalling, boxing, or even
locking the Bid and Ask for a while.

Of course, MMs aggressively deny any sort of
collusion designed to fix quotes or spreads.

MMs have a vast resource of tactics and it would
take probably more than a lifetime to figure them
all out.

So how do investors somehow manage to overcome the
obvious deception in OTCBB arena? One answer is
indirection trading style by going long which the
MMs do not expect. In the war between investors and
public companies on the OTC BB / PS vs the MMs, if the
MMs have all the advantages due to position or
other factors, direct confrontation such as
momentum or day trading hitting the stock is a
definite death sentence.

However, an indirect approach tends to weaken the
path of least resistance before slowly overcoming
it. The most effective way is long-term investors
slowly accumulating and holding thus drawing the
MMs out of its defenses making them as naked as
their short position. This is war so this slow
accumulation and holding for the long term easily
achieves the desired effect to force MMs to cover
and knock off the tactics or bury themselves
deeper.

The MMs when caught will especially use every trick
and tactic in the book to get a Bear Raid thus
playing on the individual fear of most people. The
MMs feel they have information and position
advantages over the investors as long as the
holding of the stock is in weak hands or short term
holders. Since they are OTC BB MMs who believe all
OTCBB companies are not worth investing and
management is ineffective regardless what is
happening within the company. Furthermore, MMs know
they are in the position to impose a great deal of
influence in OTC BB stocks trading when it suits
their needs.

This inherent power of position enables the MMs to
move the markets at any time up or down. As a
result, the only way to draw them out of their
favorable position is going long. Now this does not
mean just any company but to effectively nail the
MMs, Longs must find the great company on the floor
and accumulate long before the MM tactics and games
begin.

This requires extensive research to find such a
rare stock, but once you have found it, you are one
up on the MMs so be prepared for every tactic in
the book.

---

Where are you coming from????? They haven't even said that found diamonds yet. They said they found traces of material that might contain diamonds. Stop printing figures that you know nothing about. Be honest and realistic.

Bob

posted June 13, 2004 13:17              

quote:

---

Originally posted by Bam Bam 17:
By jawz_2020
http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=19921

CMKX O\S = 8.7 BILLION NEW TRANSFER CO TELLS CALLER

SOMEBODY TELEPHONED THE NEW TRANSFER COMPANY AND ASKED WHAT THE SIZE OF THE OUTSTANDING SHARES WAS THEY WERE TO RECEIVE - THE SECRETARY LOOKED AT A PIECE OF PAPER AND TOLD THE CALLER:

"8.7 BILLION SHARES - GEE THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT."

---

Where are you coming from????? They haven't even said that found diamonds yet. They said they found traces of material that might contain diamonds. Stop printing figures that you know nothing about. Be honest and realistic.

Bob

posted June 13, 2004 13:39              

quote:

---

Originally posted by Bam Bam 17:
By jawz_2020
http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=19921

CMKX O\S = 8.7 BILLION NEW TRANSFER CO TELLS CALLER

SOMEBODY TELEPHONED THE NEW TRANSFER COMPANY AND ASKED WHAT THE SIZE OF THE OUTSTANDING SHARES WAS THEY WERE TO RECEIVE - THE SECRETARY LOOKED AT A PIECE OF PAPER AND TOLD THE CALLER:

"8.7 BILLION SHARES - GEE THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT."

---

Where are you coming from????? They haven't even said that found diamonds yet. They said they found traces of material that might contain diamonds. Stop printing figures that you know nothing about. Be honest and realistic.

Bob

posted June 13, 2004 13:49              

quote:

---

Originally posted by Bialystock:
What are you trying to say, Bob?
LOL.

---

Quit pumping and raising peoples expectations on garbage talk. Be specific and report facts, not how you want to see it go.

posted June 13, 2004 13:54            

Press Release Source: TSX Venture Exchange - Halts and Resumptions

TSX Venture Exchange - Trading Halt - CONSOLIDATED PINE CHANNEL GOLD CORP. - KPG
Friday June 11, 8:06 pm ET

VANCOUVER, June 11 /CNW/ -

CONSOLIDATED PINE CHANNEL GOLD CORP. ("KPG")
BULLETIN TYPE: Halt
BULLETIN DATE: June 11, 2004
TSX Venture Tier 2 Company

Effective at 7:20 a.m. PST, June 11, 2004, trading in the shares of the Company was halted at the request of the Company, pending an announcement; this regulatory halt is imposed by Market Regulation Services, the Market Regulator of the Exchange pursuant to the provisions of Section 10.9(1) of the Universal Market Integrity Rules.
All Trades prior to the Halt Trading were cancelled due to an imbalance of material information in the market.

posted June 13, 2004 14:32            

quote:

---

Originally posted by will:
GTC:

SELL:
100,000 @ .10
100,000 @ .20
100,000 @ .30
100,000 @ .40
100,000 @ .50
Keep 750,000 for ???
If not after all hope is crushed sell at .0001, and lose $200.

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posted June 13, 2004 15:18            

Bob
---------------------------------------------
Bob-Be honest Do we need to break down the
big words for you. Diamondiferous means it has diamonds-not daimond like or wishful
thinking. Tested positive for Diamond content. If it said tested positive for chicken bone content would you believe it was chicken bones or traces of something like chicken bones. Be realistic, it is time to cover if you are short or if you like go ahead and sell your shares if you are a stockholder and think this is a scam. There is a market for your shares if you sell. I am coming from the angle of believing the press releases the company has put out recently.

1) They are changing transfer agents.
2) They believe the Market Makers have naked shorted this stock and will force them to cover by this change
3)The company wants to return to be fully reporting and get listed on a better exchange and have hired a prestigious law firm and lawyer to help the process.
4) The Investor Relations representative Melvin has spoken publicly about a Mount Saint Helens type press release that will make this stock's price explode upward. Urban Casavant is quoted by many as saying the stock's value is .50-.60 a share not counting the naked short squeeze.
5) The company announced it has diamonds. It hasn't announced the quality, quantity or value but we will get the full lab report in due time. The company is setting up the perfect storm. Believe or don't. Honest skepticism is more than welcome. It is a very good, healthy thing to have in the market in general and the pinks in particular. Even though I believe this is going very high I will sell a couple of Million shares in the .015 range and play with some sub .10. Try to swing trade for cash and free shares. But I will be keeping at least 12 Million very long. We don't know when the big press release will come. I do not want to be without a lot of shares when it does.
6) I have been posting here a long time and have had some phenomenal penny stock runs. Recently had ONEV and TFCT. My trading style is buy early and sell and make a profit, regret selling early and buy back in at the top. This stock is one I want to play right. I am not a pumper for any who don't know me and think I may be. If I were I would have loaded up at .0001 and be selling instead of buying. I was skeptical at .0001 and just starting to think this may be something and it went to .0002. As I continued looking into this stock I bought a lot at .0002 and .0003 and as each piece of news built on what we already know I saw the value in continuing to buy. I am still buying as I now see even more value. I think a penny in the near future is a foregone conclusion. I can easily believe .04 - .11 as more news is released. BUT if Melvin and UC are telling the truth that would be chump change. So I am still buying. I hope all do well in this and if it makes you nervous to keep this on the table sell and have some peace. Sell for free shares and some profit and then walk away from the computer for a while. On the plus side I do think this squeeze play is going to occur in a very short time frame. Maybe less than 10 days. That is not a lot of time to hang on and see how it will play out. IMO-DD-GLTA-Debi Here is the press release from the pink sheets page.

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Company News and Press Releases From Other Sources:

CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces 'Carolyn Pipe' Lab Results Confirm Diamondiferous Kimberlite

LAS VEGAS, Jun 10, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX) is very excited to announce that the "Carolyn Pipe" is confirmed to be diamondiferous.
Saskatchewan Research Council (SRC), an independent lab located in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan reported to the company today that the core samples from the "Carolyn Pipe" has come back positive for diamond content. The "Carolyn Pipe" is located on the jointly owned Smeaton property in Saskatchewan, Canada held by CMKM Diamonds Inc., being the primary operator of the claims, United Carina Resources Corp. (CDNX: UCA), Consolidated Pine Channel Gold Corp. (CDNX: KPG) and U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. (OTCBB: UCAD).
www.casavantmining.com

posted June 13, 2004 15:51            

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Melvin...do you honestly think that
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within a few days...weeks...all the hype and prediction will be behind us and the we'll all know the answers??

Is it as big as you and everyone is making it out to be?

Are all these people really going to be millionaires?

Can it really be this easy?

Thanks in advance for your response.
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Re: Melvin...do you honestly think that
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It will all come together soon . Is it a big as everyone thinks it is? YOU BET IT IS. Are we all going to be millionaires? that depends on the invistor not the company

posted June 13, 2004 15:55            

quote:

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Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:
BobsGolf wrote: Where are you coming from????? They haven't even said that found diamonds yet. They said they found traces of material that might contain diamonds. Stop printing figures that you know nothing about. Be honest and realistic.

Bob

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Guys I am back but I came to appologize for my behavior in the past.
I have been reading through almost every post on CMKX and I am starting to see the potential.
Good luck to all

posted June 13, 2004 16:03            

quote:

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Originally posted by vado:
Guys I am back but I came to appologize for my behavior in the past.
I have been reading through almost every post on CMKX and I am starting to see the potential.
Good luck to all

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posted June 13, 2004 16:07            

quote:

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originally posted by will:AzMan:
I have been reading all these posts, pro and con, and have made up my mind that it's those sells or bust. To hell with opinions now. If the facts change, and UC says "April Fools", then I will revaluate things, until then, Bob, bill, dog, fish, up, down, whoever can say what they like, but those are my sells as I weigh things today.

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Good position. Stick to your guns until something from the company makes you reevaluate your position. I wish I had your fortitude. I'm just floating along here with no idea when to sell. Taking it day by day.

posted June 13, 2004 16:09            

quote:

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Originally posted by vado:
I was very negative because I have been waiting for it to go up for what seems like an eternity.
My view changed slightly as I am still sceptical.
I will keep the negatives to my self but if I can help in anyway I will.

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posted June 13, 2004 16:19            

quote:

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Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
Hey, did ya hear the latest rumor? The Carolyn Pipe is chickenboniferous!!!

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posted June 13, 2004 16:22            

quote:

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Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:
Upside you will do great with this if you are floating along waiting to sell. You will probably still be holding some when and if the much promised and anticipated Mount Saint Helens Press Release comes out. That is when I will decide what I am doing with the bulk of my shares. This is definitely a wierd stock. Most of what we know or think we know looks OK but most of what we don't know is what will give us an idea of its true value. On the plus side when we do know the share count and the quality and quantity of diamonds and any further partnership details we can ascribe a price per share value fairly easily.
IMO-DD-GLTY-Debi

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posted June 13, 2004 16:34            

quote:

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Originally posted by StonedPigeon:
? about oil.

Is that included in the mineral rights?

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even if it's not include i'm sure a slice would be given to cmkx if oil were to be found.

you never know folks, we're talking about almost 2 million acres of land here.

posted June 13, 2004 17:56            

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Re: NEWS OUT ON THE FORT! HELP!!
« Reply #25 on: Today at 07:47am »

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Check this out! http://www.kensington-resources.com/s/LatestNews.asp

"Joint Venture Meeting
The Fort à la Corne Joint Venture Meeting will be held in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan on June 16, 2004 at which time the partners will be discussing a new strategy for the coming year. Details of the forward program will be announced as soon as it has been finalized and approved by the joint venture partners.

posted June 13, 2004 18:14            

quote:

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Upside you will do great with this if you are floating along waiting to sell. You will probably still be holding some when and if the much promised and anticipated Mount Saint Helens Press Release comes out. That is when I will decide what I am doing with the bulk of my shares. This is definitely a wierd stock. Most of what we know or think we know looks OK but most of what we don't know is what will give us an idea of its true value. On the plus side when we do know the share count and the quality and quantity of diamonds and any further partnership details we can ascribe a price per share value fairly easily.
IMO-DD-GLTY-Debi

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posted June 13, 2004 19:32            

quote:

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Originally posted by vado:
I was very negative because I have been waiting for it to go up for what seems like an eternity.
My view changed slightly as I am still sceptical.
I will keep the negatives to my self but if I can help in anyway I will.

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posted June 13, 2004 20:14            

CMKX Info Update...

I received info from a trusted source that was presently at the race and he read off and sent me a scanned copy of the cards that were being passed out at the races.

This info might be new to some, but old to others, but yet still interesting to still know.

I will try to have a picture copy linked to my website for all to read and see the entire viewing of the card. Peter is also trying to put the info up from a word document for all to at least view the text on the back of the card.

The key things of note on the card that caught my eyes are below:

“…CMKM Diamonds, Inc. recently initiated a drill program, which confirmed results of one of the thickest kimberlite bodies found to date in the Fort a la Corne area…”

The other piece that caught my eyes…

“…Initial geological reports indicate a high probability of locating diamonds and precious metals on this land as the Kimberlite pipes (the material in which diamonds are generally found) are in abundance on a number of claims in the area. Reports show that these Kimberlite pipes are approximately twenty times larger than are normally found…

This is very powerful in my opinion.

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posted June 13, 2004 20:15            

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Upside, A lot of time what I call gut instinct is really everything that I have taken in through all my senses even subliminally and filtered through everything I know. It seems like a sixth sense or a 'gut' feeling but it has a basis in things I may have heard and seen. SO I guess my big question is since your gut has a negative vibe is what do you know of that you have heard or seen and filtered through your experienc that leads you to think this may turn out bad? My gut tells me it probably will turn out good but common sense says to take my original investment plus some hefty profit at some point. I am still planning to buy tomorrow but as my stocks value rapidly increases there is more to lose and it will be difficult to resist selling when I see all that profit. I still think everything points to this being a winner but I would love to hear anything you have that may be good reasons for your 'gut' feeling (other than all the crooked pennies we have all seen)-but feel free to use them if that is what the gut feeling is about.
GLTYand to all, IMO-DD-Debi

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posted June 13, 2004 20:19            

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If the worst-case scenario was true, wouldn't these guys go to jail? They can't be talking the way they are if there's no merit at all... right?

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posted June 13, 2004 20:33            

(repost) CMKM Diamonds - Placards from race!
This information is verbatim from the nice placards that are being handed out at every race. These placards are changing at every race (I have 2, one from the Houston race and one from the Chicago race) and they "are" different. Enjoy the read!!

CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (formerly known as Casavant Mining and Kimberlite International) is a mining and exploration company with mineral claims in central Saskatchewan, Canada. The founder and current Chairman of the Board, Urban Casavant, is a native of the Prince Albert (Saskatchewan, Canada) area, and has been involved in the precious stone and metals industry for over seventeen years presenting a substantial advantage over other exploration companies in the Saskatchewan region. With local knowledge combined with years of researching geological/government reports of the Saskatchewan area, Urban set forth to stake mineral claims in the hundreds of thousands of acres, most contiguously and adjacent to known diamondiferous kimberlite bodies owned and operated by other well known international diamond exploration companies, prior to forming CMKM Diamonds, Inc.

The company now has over 1,000,000 (one million) acres claimed in the Saskatchewan Province of Canada, which include Fort a la Corne claims, Green Lake claims and zinc claims which include the original George Lake Deposit (also known as Brakewell Lake) with options for approximately 1.9 million acres total for the Saskatchewan region. CMKM Diamonds, Inc. recently initiated a drill program, with confirmed results of one of the thickest kimberlite bodies found to date in the Fort a la Corne area. The new kimberlite discovery was named "The Carolyn Pipe" after Mr. Casavants wife and all additional kimberlite discoveries will be named after individuals rather than traditionally given a number. Initial geological reports indicate a high probability of locating diamonds and precious metals on this land as the Kimberlite pipes (the material in which diamonds are generally found) are in abundance on a number of the claims in the area. Reports show that these Kimberlite pipes are approximately twenty times larger than are normally found. With ongoing drilling on additional targets scheduled for diamond core sampling for the rest of 2004/2005. While continuing to focus on Fort a la Corne, CMKM Diamonds, Inc. is remaining proactive in expanding their asset base through target acquisition elsewhere in Canada and around the world.

CMKM Diamonds, Inc. has recently entered into marketing agreements aimed at the motorsports industry with Can Am Motorsports "CMKXtreme Machine" and also entered into an Agreement with the ASA Speed Truck Challenge as its new Series / Title Sponsor for the remaining 13 races in 2004. The CMKXtreme Machine top fuel Corvette Funny Car piloted by Jeff Arend which debuted in Las Vegas on April 1st, 2004 and set 3rd fastest qualifying time of 299.997 MPH at Houston Raceway Park the following weekend. The ASA Speed Truck Challenge ... presented by CMKXtreme.com will include several national television broadcasts to be aired in the later part of 2004 and early 2005. The name of the broadcasts will be CMKXtreme "Driven to Rock". For details on race schedule or air times go to: w w w.cmkxtreme.c o m or w w w.speedtruck.c o m.

For additional information or questions please contact:

CMKM Diamonds, Inc.
Diamond Hotline
Toll Free in US/Canada: (877) 752-3755

posted June 13, 2004 20:36            

Am I wrong about the stock manipulation thing? I'm not an expert or anything.

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Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
Why do you think they would go to jail? What have they done or said that they cannot back up?
P.S. That's part of my theory surrounding this company.

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posted June 13, 2004 20:52            

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What I'm saying is, if the company has nothing, and they are talking all this Mt. St. Helens stuff, then they are guilty of stock manipulation. So I'm concluding, since I'm rather certain they wouldn't want to go to jail, that there is at least some positive news about this company, not "that they are all done, out of business, stock is worthless," as you have said you feared.
Am I wrong about the stock manipulation thing? I'm not an expert or anything.

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posted June 13, 2004 21:10            

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UPSIDE
One large thing that says not so. Is no legal firm of the caliber stated ( and I believe verified by a posters call) would not allow themsleves to mainpulated.
VAN

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posted June 13, 2004 21:41            

Link to New CMKX Info...

Below is the link to the most recent updates to the CMKX-treme cards that are being passed out at the races.
http://www.sterlingsclass.com/service.htm

Go to the section titled:

Recent CMKX Card Large Files Side A -- Side B, SIDE B ENHANCED CLICK HERE

There are 3 parts to view as indicated above;

1. Side A - Picture of the CMKX-treme car (Front)
2. Side B - Picture of Jeff Arend, with bio, and CMKX sponsor info (Back)
3. Enhanced CMKX sponsor info for easier reading (Back)

The info on the card is consider official information from the company and is updated before every race.

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